1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: KF I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: the House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Arnold A Arnold, Welcome home. 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for taking my call. I love 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: listening to your show, and you've inspired me to do 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: something in my backyard. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 3: Oh what's that? 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: To make a fire pit and a huge tree in 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: the summertime to shade it good? 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Yes, So basically I'm wondering. I live in Alpine and 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 2: it gets down to thirty degrees in the winter, and 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: I know you have a gorgeous ash tree in your backyard. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Would that work in Alpine? 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Oh? 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Now you're calling on my instant botanist inside, and 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: you know I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't have time to look 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,639 Speaker 1: it up right now. But I do know this, my friend. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: I know that there are absolutely big, beautiful trees that 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: will in fact work for you. Okay, I don't think that. 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think the ash will probably do 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: just fine. You know, it's you don't expect it to 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: thrive in thirty degree weather. No tree thrives in thirty 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: degree weather, they all kind of go into their torpor, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: they go into their slow growth mode. That, by the way, 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: everybody is what tree rings are. It's not bark. When 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: you cut across the tree and you see a dark 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: ring and a light ring, and a dark ring and 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: a light ring, that's every light and dark ring represents 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a year of growth because the dark ring is slow growth, 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: very dense, very slowly growing wood. And then the light 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: ring is all of that spring and summer growth that 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: where the tree just like boom, goes out. So there 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: are lots and lots of big, beautiful feature trees that 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: are going to do fine surviving a thirty degree winter 37 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: or regular thirty degree temperatures and then just burst out 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: and thrive, you know during during the spring and summer. 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Just do your research, talk to local experts on trees 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: for your area, and I'm sure arnold you're going to 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: find it. But yeah, you've kind of tapped beyond my 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: instant tree knowledge to know exactly which ones are going 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: to be best for you. But I would do the 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: same thing that I'm suggesting that you do, which is 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: just dive in, do the research and find it. As 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: far as the fire pit goes by the way, any 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: questions about that. 48 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Yes, the only gas line the fire pit's going to 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: be about sixty feet from my house. The closest gas 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: line is in my kitchen, which is behind my stove. No, 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, would they have to like drill a whole 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: bunch of holes through all the cabinets. 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we got to come here's the 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: news on the gas line. We got to come right 55 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: off the meter. Oh, right off the meter for that one. 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: We're not going to be drawing. We're not gonna be 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: drawn because here's the thing. Two reasons why. Number one, 58 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: we don't want to mess up the house and anything 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: going on there. And two, all of the gas lines 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: in the house have already branched out to their appliances 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: at their optimal size. And so you know, it's a 62 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: half inch gas line behind the stove. Half inch gas 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: line is the tiniest, little, littlest to most minute fire 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: pit feed And I would never recommend anybody feed fuel 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: a fire pit with a half inch gas line if 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: you've just got a portable one, you know, with the 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: little propane tank. That's that's basically what we're talking about there. 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: As far as the equivalent of a half inch gas 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: line a fire pit out away from your home that 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: you really want to be able to blaze and to 71 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: keep you warm. And okay, understand this is my theory 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: on fire pits. When I build a fire pit for 73 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: myself or any of our clients, the idea is a 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: fire pit. You know, maybe it's not going to keep 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: you warm on you know, when it's twenty degrees outside 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: in a blizzard, that's fine, nobody's doing that. But on 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: a cool night that drops into the forties, you know, 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: a fire should keep you warm. And to do that, 79 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to run a minimum three quarter inch line. 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: Most likely, my recommendation is a one inch line out there. 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, now it's not gonna it's it's not It 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: doesn't need to sound intimidating. It's not going to you know, 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: blow out a bunch of gas, and it's not going 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: to be any more expensive really than just running a 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: half inch line out there. But you need to run 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: it from the meter. You run a nice size line 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: out there, because here's the thing, my friend for for 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: to have a nice burn on a nice size fire pit. 89 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've noticed this. But natural gas 90 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: is it's pressurized, but it's the minimal it's it's the 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: least pressurized substance running through our homes. In other words, 92 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: water is running through your house at anywhere from sixty 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: to eighty pounds per square inch of pressure. That's a 94 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. So if you bust a if you 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: were to undo something and just have an open pipe 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: and turn on your water supply, there's no way you're 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna be able to put your hand or your finger 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: over that pipe and stop it because it's just coming 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: out at such high pressure. A gas line is usually 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: running between five and maybe eleven pounds per square inch 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: of pressure. And I'm not suggesting anybody do this. I'm 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: just saying if if, because I've had to do this occasionally. 103 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: We've got like we've we detached a stove and it's 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: sitting out in the middle of the kitchen floor and 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: somebody bumped the gas line, and or we've taken off 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: the valve and somebody actually bumps the gas line to 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: turn it back on. I'm like, hey, turn off the 108 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: gas And in the meantime, I just put my thumb 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: over the end of the pipe and I block it, 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: I stop it. 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: It just stops. 112 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Because it's very very low pressure. So what that means 113 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: is it's not high pressure coming through the gas line. 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: So if you want a nice, big, healthy flame that's 115 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: going to keep you warm on a cool night, you 116 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: need volume. When you don't have pressure, you need volume. 117 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: And so as a result, instead of a one half 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: inch line running out there, a you know, three quarter 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: inch line, which is almost fifty percent more, and a 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: one inch line which is like three times more than 121 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: a half inch line, that's what you want for your 122 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: fire pit. And you will not be disappointed by that. 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Believe me. You'll thank me for that advice later. 124 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: All right, gee, thank you very much for all the information. 125 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: You're very welcome, Arnold. 126 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, before you run that gas line 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: out there, call call dig Alert. Call eight one one, 128 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: and I think that number is it may not be 129 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: dig Alert in your area, but call eight one one 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: just to make sure that they'll notify all of the utilities, 131 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: anybody who might have had something in your yard, under 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: your property anywhere. They'll take three days to come out. 133 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: It's all free and they'll come out and they'll mark 134 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: stuff with flags. Because I don't want you to trench 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: in a gas line through your backyard and hitting something 136 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, major, or cutting across cables or anything else 137 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: that might be buried there. Always call them first, get 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: everything marked before you dig. Call before you dig. And 139 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: the number is eight one one here in southern Califoria. 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the same number across the entire state, 141 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: but it may not be dig Alert per se. 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 3: Anyway, call eight one one and get everything marked off. 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: All right, more great stuff on the way. 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whist build. 145 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: k A six. 147 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: It's an all calls show today. Let's get back to 148 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: the phones. Let's talk to uh Am. I going to 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: get this name right, Bobart, welcome home. 150 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: Yes, I have an eighty five year old father who's 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: who needs to be moved into his home. But he 152 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: can't get into the bathtub anymore. We needs to get 153 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: make it walk through backtop. So there's a there's something 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 5: online that steps to step in and you cut apart 155 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 5: the backtop and then you you converted to a walk in. 156 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: Do you have any opinions about that? 157 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 6: Yeah? 158 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: You know, I've seen that. 159 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: Uh and uh uh, what can I tell you? I 160 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: have no direct experience with it whatsoever. So I'm being 161 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: completely honest and transparent with you. I have a zero 162 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: direct experience with it. But but I will tell you 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: water is heavy, uh, and water pressure against the side 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: of a tub, uh is significant. And I I really 165 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: really have trouble imagining that in the long term, that 166 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: a retrofit of a door on the side of an 167 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: existing bathtub is actually going to hold up and be functional. 168 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: I would much much quicker recommend to you that you 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: simply remove the existing tub and replace it with a 170 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: factory built walk in tub. The door swings in these 171 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: tubs are built for exactly the thing that you are 172 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: in need of it. They are for folks who need 173 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: to sit down. The benches are located in the most 174 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: convenient locations at the most convenient height. They need to 175 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: sit down, they need to bathe, but they are not 176 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: in a position to step over the edge of a 177 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: tub because it's a danger to them. And so there 178 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: is a door that simply opens up. But those doors 179 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: are designed like you know, marine grade boat submarine doors. 180 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean they and I've never actually seen one of 181 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: those from reputable walk in tub manufacturers fail, honest, and 182 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: what I wouldn't want to have happen is for having 183 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: a retrofit fail on you. So my recommendation is that 184 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: you remove the existing tub and replace it with one 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: designed by the factory for just this purpose. You're going 186 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: to have the best warranty and I think you're going 187 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: to have the best results with it. 188 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: Let's talk to Mike. Hey, Mike, welcome home. 189 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 7: Yes, we have a tankless tankless urinal in our comedy club. 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 7: Two days after changing the filter, the proprietor complains that 191 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 7: it smells like that outhouse. Is there any fix with it? 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: Oh? 193 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Uh okay, So when. 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: You say tankless you mean a waterless urinal. 195 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Yes that I'm just just just writing this down here 196 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: because I've literally never had this question before. Waterless urble 197 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: at the comedy club is smelling. So the trick with 198 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: waterless urinals is that they've got to be maintained properly. 199 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: Of course, there's a filter system connected to it, but 200 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: also you got to double check with your personnel to 201 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: make sure they're being cleaned the right way. Most people 202 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: make the mistake of assuming that Hey, it's a waterless urinal. 203 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: So every once in a while when we clean this out, 204 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: we better flush it with some water, because a waterless 205 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: urinal couldn't possibly be cleaned in any other way, And 206 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: in fact, that's the exact opposite thing to do, because 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: of well, urine has scale hard water scale deposits, and 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: with that comes build up on the inside of the pipes, 209 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: and then it becomes a place when it interacts with 210 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: water that bacteria starts to grow. So I am not 211 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: an expert in this area, but I do know this 212 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to waterless urinals, there is a very 213 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: very specific cleaning methodology for them. And once a filter 214 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: has changed, you may if anybody has induced water introduced 215 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: water into that drain pipe, then you got to let 216 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: it dry out and then you got to return to 217 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: standard cleaning protocols, and they are very very specific. There's 218 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: usually a puck or an additive to go into the 219 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: waterless system, which begins breaking down the build up on 220 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: the pipe wall and killing off the bacteria and allowing 221 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: it to return to its clean, fresh smell once again. 222 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: But the one thing you don't do, and the thing 223 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: I've heard most often when a waterless urinal starts to smell, 224 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: is that somebody has cleaned it with water, which is 225 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: just not the right thing to do. That's the best 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you, Mike. Return to those protocols. Make 227 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: sure nobody at the comedy club is cleaning that thing improperly. 228 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: If water was introduced, even in the change out of 229 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the filter, like somebody felt like, oh we should also, 230 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, we were changing out the filter, we should 231 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: rinse this out while we're at it. That could be 232 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: the whole issue right there. Waterless means waterless, and so 233 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: refer to your owner's manual when it comes to how 234 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to clean that thing, and it's usually a dry puck 235 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: that goes in, starts absorbing on the sides of the 236 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: pipewall with what tiny moisture is there and neutralizes the bacteria, 237 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: takes the smell away. 238 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: There you go. 239 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay, a quick break and then more of your calls. 240 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 241 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 242 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: KFI Am six forty. 243 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: We've been taking your calls today. We still have some 244 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: more to go. Let's get back to the phones. David 245 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: welcome home. 246 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 8: Good morning, Deane. My name is David Diyke. Have a 247 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 8: wood framed slat frames on the outside a garage built 248 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 8: nineteen twenty five in Glendale. The tar paper is gone 249 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 8: on the inside or torn. I want to waterproof and 250 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 8: insulate and dry wall the interior of the garage, and 251 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 8: I staple tar paper to the inside of the two 252 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 8: by fours. Ad if I do that, should I cock 253 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 8: it around the two by fours? And would spray on 254 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 8: insulation be better? 255 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: Okay? Okay? 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: That was That was a full menu right there, my friend. 257 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: So all right, let's just let's set the scene here. 258 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: We've got a garage and built in when twenty five 259 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty seven? 260 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: When'd you say nineteen twenty five? Nineteen twenty five? 261 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: So we literally have a one hundred year old garage 262 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: standing on your property in Glendale, and it's obviously a 263 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: wood framed garage and it has siding on the outside. 264 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah okay. 265 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: And as we look inside the tar paper, the building 266 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: paper that was put on studs first before the sighting 267 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: was put on, the paper that was put on a 268 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, it's all messed up and gone or 269 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: missing or torn away or I mean, is some of 270 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: it there, some of it not, or what's is it? 271 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 8: Generally just some of it's there and some of it's not. 272 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So and obviously the the the the question is 273 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: all geared around the idea that we don't want to 274 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: touch the siding on the outside. 275 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 9: Yes, okay, unless there's a better suggestion for tearing it 276 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 9: all off and doing something different. 277 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm okay, Okay, So I'm going to be 278 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: completely one honest with you. All Right, the absolute guarantee 279 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: of of getting it right for the long term, considering 280 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: that the building paper is torn, screwed up, missing all 281 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: over the place, the absolute guarantee would be to remove 282 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: the siding from the outside. I'm at one hundred year 283 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: old siding. I'm not saying that it's going to survive, okay, 284 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: but to remove it do everything as if we were 285 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: approaching this project with fresh framing, meaning that we strip 286 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: down to the studs, and that we wrap the outside 287 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: of the stud the outside of the garage walls in 288 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: vapor barrier and fresh waterproofing materials, and then we put 289 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: new siding back on. Of course, the new siding could 290 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: be designed and ordered in such a way that it 291 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: looks like the old stuff, and so when we put 292 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: it back together, even though it's brand new, we're maintaining 293 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: that hundred year old story. If that's the important thing. 294 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: So the fact of the matter is, David, that if 295 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: we want an absolute guarantee that we've got everything buttoned 296 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: up from day one, you got to take the old 297 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: siding off and treat it, you know, new, Because here's 298 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: the trouble. The trouble is, we can do a lot, okay, 299 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that's what I would do either. 300 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that's the one hundred percent guarantee 301 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: that we get it right. We can do a lot 302 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: from the inside, okay. It's just that if there are 303 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: leaks or any water intrusion through the siding whatsoever, onto 304 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: the outside faces of those studs, then there's no way 305 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: to stop that. If the building paper is still there, 306 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: that's fine. If it's been torn away and pulled out 307 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: from you know, behind the face of the stud as 308 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: it gets torn away, which is often the case, there 309 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: are elements of you know, portions of those studs that 310 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: are bare between them and the siding, and then the 311 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: siding and a good paint job is the only thing 312 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: that's keeping that stud from being you know, having moisture intrusion, 313 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: but well maintain siding and a good paint job will, 314 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: in fact should handle the vast majority of that and 315 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: that saves you from yanking all that siding off. So 316 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: let's assume we're gonna go with Plan B, which is 317 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: the sidings in decent shape, and we're gonna give it 318 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: a really good and we're gonna caulk it on the 319 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: outside on every lap. We're going to give it a 320 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: really great exterior paint job so that it is shedding 321 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: water and not absorbing, and we're gonna get all that 322 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: tuned up and from the inside. Yes, we're gonna then 323 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: start with running calking down the sides of the studs 324 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: where it connects to the siding, so that we seal 325 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: up those channels as best we can, and then we're 326 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna run new vapor barrier. We can call it vapor barrier. 327 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: You can use building paper, you could use a waterproof 328 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: roofing membrane that's self ceiling. They're also sorts of different varia. 329 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You could even apply a wet compound like redguard or 330 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: a roller applied waterproofing membrane to the backside. There are 331 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: a number of different ways you could approach it, but 332 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: to just essentially wrap down the side of the stud, 333 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: attach it to the side of the stud, and wrap 334 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: into the bay so that it's backing is pushed up 335 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: against the siding, and then that'll give you the freedom 336 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: once that's all done and calked in to insulate and 337 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: to dry wall the inside. Now, if you were to 338 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: ask me to evaluate that, I would take a look 339 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: at the outside siding. If the outside siding seems like 340 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: it's in good shape still and that we can bring 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: it back, caulk it, paint it, seal it up really 342 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: really well. If there isn't any indication currently of major 343 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: water intrusion, and that's the thing we should be able 344 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: to see on the inside, since we're just looking at 345 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: the backside of siding now and studs. If we don't 346 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: see any major leaks or water intrusion coming through, then 347 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that's a really encouraging sign. And I would probably go 348 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: with p Plan B because it's a lot more inexpensive 349 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: than replacing all the siding on the outside. You just 350 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: give it all of that, and I would add one 351 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: more thing. Just to make sure that we've got no 352 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: moisture getting into those bays from the outside. We might 353 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: take some pes This is kind of an unorthodox but 354 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: a really good idea, some PEX tubing, which is you know, 355 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: plumbing pip pex piping which is flexible, And I might 356 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: drill a half inch hole in the top plate of 357 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: each stud bay and run a little PEX tubing up 358 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: through that bay and then just up into the attic 359 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: space as basically a snorkel or a vent, a place 360 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: where air that might get humid or moisture ridden trapped 361 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: inside that for any reason whatsoever, has a chance to 362 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: bleed off into the attic space or the roof rafter 363 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: area above. But you could approach it with that multi 364 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: layered approach. It'd be faster, it'd be cheaper, and you know, 365 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: depending on how good the sighting is on the outside, 366 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, you might pull it off and have you know, 367 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: decades of good performance there. The only absolute guarantee would 368 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: be to pull the siding. 369 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 9: And so if I pull the siving or is our 370 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 9: other wood that like on a tough shed that would 371 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 9: work good for that? Or should I just stuckle it? 372 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 9: I stuckled the house at already. Oh I didn't want 373 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 9: to spend that much more money on. 374 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: It, right, I mean if you went that way, then yeah, 375 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: match you know, stuck of the house, stuck of the garage, 376 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: match the house with the garage and uh and uh yeah, 377 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: then then you wouldn't. Then we've set all of that aside. 378 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I appreciate your wisdom on this. 379 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: Thing, David, good Luck. 380 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: Just just know whichever way you go, you know, you 381 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: just want to be as there is possible to make 382 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: sure that what you're doing is not compounding the problem 383 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: but solving as many along the way. You don't always 384 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: have to solve every single problem or every single weakness. 385 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: If you solve ninety eight percent of them, chances are 386 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: you know you've resolved it. But if you've already changed 387 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: the style of the house, then if it's in your budget, 388 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: the safest way to go for the garage long term 389 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: would be to strip the siding off, wrap it, stucco it. 390 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: You'll have a brand. 391 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, for all intents and purposes, you have a 392 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: brand new garage that will last decades, and you know 393 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: it'll last another one hundred years on. Okay, a quick 394 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: break and then more of your calls. You're listening to 395 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper. 396 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 397 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 4: KFI AM six. 398 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Forty taking your calls. Let's get back to the phones. 399 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I want to talk to Sandy. Hey, Sandy, welcome home. 400 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:02,239 Speaker 6: Thank you. Hi. I'll just have a question about an 401 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 6: air conditioner versus the heat pump. Sure, And we live 402 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 6: in Marino Valley and out closer to the desert, and 403 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 6: we have a single story, nineteen hundred square foot home 404 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 6: and it was built in two thousand and two and 405 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: the air conditioners still running from then. But we just 406 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 6: put a capacitor in it and it's still going. But 407 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: wanted to kind of get some head up about heads 408 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 6: up about whether heat pump. We spoke with the air 409 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: conditioning gentleman, but he wasn't really excited about the heat pump. 410 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 6: He said they've had problems with them. So I just 411 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: want to get your ideas on that. 412 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So my first idea is talk with more than 413 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: one air conditioning gentleman. Okay, when it comes to that, 414 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, everybody has their experiences with things. But I 415 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: am I'm actually I'm surprised and not surprised, you know. 416 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got guys, I got I know plumbers 417 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: out there who are still telling me that, you know, 418 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: putting in cop piping is way better than pecks, or 419 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: that you know, everybody's got their thing. Everybody's got their thing. 420 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: But you want to educate yourself on a wider spectrum. 421 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: So as the homeowner, I want you to have two 422 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: or three I would say three at a minimum. AC 423 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: company take a look at the house and evaluate it 424 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: and talk to you about it. Honestly, I have a 425 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: very very different opinion about that than the one that 426 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: the gentleman expressed to you, which is that heat pumps 427 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: are probably very very They're very much becoming, especially here 428 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: in California and in more temperate climates and even in 429 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: more severe cold climates. Get pumps are gaining ground like 430 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: no other innovation in the HVAC industry. 431 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: In a long, long, long time. And it really does. 432 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead said he was something concerned about something 433 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 6: about the free on issue. Yeah, there's something he was 434 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 6: talking about. There's things going on with the free on 435 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 6: about new ones and old ones and getting it and 436 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 6: I don't know, I guess there were some free on questions. 437 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so that sounds like that you may be a 438 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: little bit confused or maybe he wasn't really clear about 439 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: certain things. Free on is is a kind of refrigerant 440 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: that we don't use anymore. It's out of date and older. 441 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Twenty thirty year old ac has a free on, a 442 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of free on in it that is not available anymore. 443 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: And so in terms of like you know, when it 444 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: comes time to upgrade, do you just keep repairing the 445 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: old unit and keep it going. The question is, next 446 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: time you have to charge that thing up with the 447 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: refrigerant that is no longer being sold or manufactured, you're 448 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: going to be paying a mint for it. Because the 449 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: only free on that's out there right now available is 450 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: free on that has been bled off of old units 451 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: that are being removed. So it's like it's like an 452 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: antique now. And so that piece of furniture, now that 453 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: it's been labeled antique, is like ten times more expensive 454 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: than it normally would be. So there are new refrigerants, 455 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: better refrigerants in existing modern units that you don't have 456 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: to have that worry. That's a kind of a different conversation. 457 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: But let me just very quickly explain the heat pump. 458 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: The heat pump is really not about the AC. A 459 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: heat pump question is whether you're going to buy an 460 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: AC unit that is also a heat pump and that 461 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: replaces not the air conditioner, but it replaces your gas 462 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: fired furnace. A heat pump AC doesn't need the gas 463 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: fired furnace anymore because of what it is. It's like 464 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: an air conditioner that can also be turned in put 465 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: in reverse. So during the hot summer months, the air 466 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: conditioner is pulling hot air out of the house, pulling 467 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: heat out of the house and distributing it outside. During 468 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: the cold months, a heat pump unit the same machinery 469 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: works in the opposite direction and it pumps warm air 470 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: into the house. And that's why I'm saying. When it 471 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: comes to a heat pump unit, the question is do 472 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you want the gas furnace anymore? Do we need the 473 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: gas furnit, do we need a fossil fuel burning gas 474 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: furnace anymore? Or can the whole thing work efficiently and 475 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: effectively off of a heat pump slash AC unit. 476 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 3: That's the big cat. 477 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 8: And it's all electric, correct, it's all electric. 478 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all electric and so natural gas doesn't enter 479 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: into it anymore. 480 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 6: Okay, And are they a lot more expensive? 481 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: They are more expensive than just a standard unit. But 482 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: your unit is now, if it's twenty years old, you're 483 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: at the age where you're also going to have to 484 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: be replacing the furnace, and so the I think it's 485 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: probably costwise going to be a wash across the board. 486 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Either you get your less expensive air conditioner that only 487 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: does cooling, plus a new gas furnace unit to mate 488 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: with it, or you eliminate the new gas furnace unit 489 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: and you get an air conditioner that also can operate 490 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: as a heater, and so the cost is pretty much 491 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: a wash across the board, Sandy. So here's my advice again. 492 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Talk to two three at least vetted, well reputed, well 493 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: reputed HVAC contractors about your specific situation. I think you'll 494 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: find that they'll probably be inclining you toward the heat 495 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: pump and not discouraging you away from it. They don't really, 496 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: they don't have problem. I don't know what you. I 497 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: think what he meant was problems with maintaining your old 498 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: unit a heat a new heat pump HVAC unit. They're 499 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: very very, very reliable. They're as reliable as your air 500 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: conditioning you is because they are essentially your air conditioning you. 501 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: It's just one that has a reverse gear to it. Essentially, 502 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm the metaphor, but that's. 503 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: The way it works. 504 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: Sandy. Thank you for your question. I've got to go. 505 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: We're up against a break. Good luck with that. But again, again, 506 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: like I harp on so often, get two or three opinions. 507 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: Educate yourself. Don't just go with the one guy who 508 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: said the one thing. Okay, make sure it all proves out. 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