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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Welcome in. It's Monday Midday

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Speaker 2: Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks as

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. And boy, oh boy, is

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Speaker 2: there a lot to get to and I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: six hours today i'll cover it, but we're gonna try

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Speaker 2: to do just that. In hours one and two will

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Speaker 2: be a normal Monday midday quarterback. Austin will take over

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Speaker 2: for the third and final hour solo on the Monday

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Speaker 2: midday Quarterback, I'll head to Florence at Florence twin Peaks

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Speaker 2: three to six is the Tony and Moe Football Show,

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Speaker 2: So essentially six hours to figure out what actually happened

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Speaker 2: yesterday at pay Court Stadium. Along the way, we'll take

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Speaker 2: your phone calls five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Let's do a quick rundown of everything else

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Speaker 2: that happened. Get that out of the way, and we'll

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Speaker 2: dive right into everything of the meat of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: A rough week for injuries in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes after the Chargers ended the chief season early.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes leaves with an ACL injury. Micah Parsons also an

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Speaker 2: ACL injury, so on the same Sunday in the afternoon

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Speaker 2: s late Michah Parsons and Patrick Mahomes both lost for

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Speaker 2: the season. Other NFL news, forty four year old Philip

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Speaker 2: Rivers Austin went on the road against one of the

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Speaker 2: best defenses in the National Football League and still found

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Speaker 2: a way even though he was coaching high school sports

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Speaker 2: last week, to put eight or a fifty sixteen points

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Speaker 2: on the board. Including a touchdown pass. So Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: did something the Bengals could not do yesterday and that

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Speaker 2: has put points on the board. Seattle ends up winning

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Speaker 2: that with a field goal at the Gun. Bears dominated

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Speaker 2: the Browns. Chargers, as I mentioned, beat the Chiefs. The

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Speaker 2: Bills come from a big time deficit in New England

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Speaker 2: to beat the Patriots thirty five thirty one. Commanders beat

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Speaker 2: up on the Giants. Eagles shut out the Raiders and

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Speaker 2: them Jacksonville Jaguars put up forty eight on the Jet.

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Speaker 2: That's the Texans continue their winning ways. Denver want to

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Speaker 2: shootout over Green Bay. Matthew Stafford continues to play elite football.

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Speaker 2: Rams beat the Lions forty one to thirty four. Saints

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Speaker 2: opened the door back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with

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Speaker 2: a win against the Carolina Panthers forty nine. Ers Crews

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Speaker 2: against the Titans, Seahawks beat the Colts, and last night

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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings beat the Dallas Cowboys thirty four to

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Fernando Mendoza is your Heisman Trophy winner, Austin.

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Speaker 2: Did the Heisman committee get it right? I think so,

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Speaker 2: I do too. Diego Pavia issued a apology after his

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Speaker 2: Heisman loss on Instagram. He went to ig with the

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Speaker 2: thumbs down in Mosy that said f all the voters,

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Speaker 3: He was talking about you. Yep, you're a voter.

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Speaker 2: I am, and I did not have him in my

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Speaker 2: He was also at a club where he put on

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Speaker 2: or f Indiana. Oh As, it was Mendoza's problem. So

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Speaker 2: the Heisman committee got it right. Fernando Mendoza I think

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Speaker 2: won the award with that win against the Ohio State Buckeyes.

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Speaker 3: He is at least Pavia or Pavilla or whatever you

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Speaker 3: Issued a statement apologizing and this whole big thing, and

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Speaker 3: I bet he is okay, man, bet he can't wait

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Speaker 3: for that. That was somebody like just watching him over

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Speaker 3: the weekend. The clips of that guy. Yep, I was

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Speaker 3: like this, this is not gonna work out.

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Speaker 2: Not someone I would draft.

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Speaker 3: There's some Johnny Manziel type of vibes and it just

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Speaker 2: The right direction just for him. A bad look all

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Speaker 3: Is he draft eligible? Is he gonna go back to school?

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Speaker 2: Is right now? I think so? Oh? I can't wait

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Speaker 2: one year, ten million dollars. He's a power hitter. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to the rets. Oh, one year, ten million

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Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia Phillies. All right for Adulus Garcia. And

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Speaker 2: finally College Basketball World Xavier, Louisville, Kentucky NKU, Dayton all

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Speaker 2: winners over the weekend. The Cincinnati Bearcats did not win.

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Speaker 2: The Bearcats lost by nineteen points to the Georgia Bulldogs.

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Speaker 2: Not good. Things are not good right now in Clifton.

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Speaker 2: You can look and just by looking and listening to

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the way out is right now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it gets any better. You watch

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Speaker 2: across the country. Arizona went to Alabama and beat Alabama

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Speaker 2: things are getting bad to worse for the Cincinnati Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive in Austin to the Bengals from yesterday and

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Speaker 2: before we could even get to the game, can we

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Speaker 2: just address the issues before the game as well? For

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Speaker 2: the Bengals, snow on a lot of the seats for

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Speaker 2: mentioned that there could be a potential fine coming, but

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Conway had reached out to the NFL office and

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Speaker 2: essentially what happened to Austin is that by the letter

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Speaker 2: of the law, the Bengals did let's call it the

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Speaker 2: bare minimum of what they had to do, so they're

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Speaker 2: not going to get a fine from it. But as

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Speaker 3: Let me first of all, I didn't have any problems

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Speaker 3: So we really kind of walked up and got right

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Speaker 3: to the Bengals front offices, that was apparently a zoo

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Speaker 3: and not all the gates were open, and not all

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Speaker 3: a general rule, if you're going to go to a

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Speaker 3: don't know if they had a problem staffing it and

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Speaker 3: people calling off or whatever because of the weather. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that probably played a role in it. As for

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Speaker 3: that the snow came down and the way that the

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Speaker 3: temperature dropped, I didn't expect, you know, there to be

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Speaker 3: every seat is completely clean. I did, however, expect there

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Speaker 3: clean them off, and it didn't appear like there was any.

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Speaker 3: For a couple of places, it seemed like there was,

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Speaker 3: I know, Jay Morrison posted a video of a guy

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Speaker 3: going through with the snowblower or with a blower just

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Speaker 3: trying to, you know, blow some of the snow out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: our seats were covered in ice, and you mentioned Pro

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Speaker 3: Football Talk Mike Florio writing about this, and the Bengals

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Speaker 3: just not true. It took ten twelve minutes, it felt like,

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Speaker 3: at least, just to get all of the snow and

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Speaker 3: it all off. There was people using a credit card

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Speaker 2: In, which helps against the heat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've ever been to a really cold weather game,

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Speaker 3: And they were not allowing people to bring cardboard in. Thankfully,

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Speaker 3: like this storm crept up on anybody.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was awful, but I think they

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Speaker 2: I thought most tweet them and we'll discuss it later

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Speaker 2: as well. The Bengals probably did the bare minimum of

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Speaker 2: what was required. You can choose to go above and

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Speaker 2: you can choose not to. Most that it seems like, yes,

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Speaker 2: say the choice was not to. Also, if the team

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Speaker 2: went into the game to ten and three record, I

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Speaker 2: I agree with him on that. Here's the issue. The

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Speaker 2: Even with the team having four wins, there's a slim

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Speaker 2: less than ten Toye's single digits out and the fan

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Speaker 2: base is still trying to come and support the team,

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Speaker 2: and that's what they're welcomed with. I think that's what

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Speaker 2: makes it the biggest problem. And when you add that

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Speaker 2: now you've got a big issue. Now, not only are

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Speaker 2: you having fans uncomfortable having to clean their seats, unable

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Speaker 2: to sit down, freezing cold? Now you're watching the team

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Speaker 2: score nothing against one of the poorer defenses in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty four nothing the final yesterday from pay Corpse Stadium.

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Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals shut out at home. Let me just

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Speaker 3: It felt like some of the controllable aspects of the

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Speaker 3: Honestly, like I remember, through the this is gonna sound crazy,

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Speaker 2: I thought Burrow took a couple unnecessary hits that the

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Speaker 3: Agreed, Mems is hurt as well.

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Speaker 2: With Mems just you gotta watch fair Child miss some assignments.

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Speaker 2: to ask Austin offensively, did that look like a team

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Speaker 3: Did the cold really get to him?

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Speaker 2: for your your season life. Yesterday? Did that look like

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Speaker 3: And that to me is a Zach Taylor problem. Number one,

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Speaker 2: In Austin, they had the ball twenty seven straight plays

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Speaker 2: If you're a Bengal fan, you want this team to rally,

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Speaker 2: Do you want him to finish the season four and

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Speaker 2: Like to see how this team plays down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: This team did not answer the bell yesterday. Will they

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Speaker 2: this conversation as we go on the Monday Midday Quarterback. Today,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. We will grab your phone calls in

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Speaker 2: the next segment. I want to hear from you today

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Speaker 2: after what we witnessed yesterday at Pey Corpse Stadium, Austin.

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Speaker 2: I think Rex Ryan said something today that that I

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Speaker 2: you know where is where's the energy at right now?

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Speaker 2: Where's the optimism? You know? If it wasn't bad enough

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Speaker 2: on the field yesterday, former Bengals Zack Moss decided to

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Speaker 2: and and said been telling people easily the worst franchise

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Speaker 3: Zach Moss has played for the Bills, the Colts and

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, So I don't know how much she could

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Speaker 3: really yeah, you know, glean, but yeah, I would imagine

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Speaker 3: that the Bills and Colts are much better run organizations

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Speaker 2: How about this, This Austin will be the first postseason

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Speaker 2: Kind of amazing, amazing to think about where things are

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Speaker 2: not playing for playoffs anymore? How are these three games handled?

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Speaker 2: Would you change anything in your approach over the next

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Speaker 3: Approach?

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Speaker 2: Who's playing, who's not playing? Not really, No, I mean

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm surely not rushing anyone. But I mean

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Speaker 2: t Higgins to me would be, let's let's make sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Higgins, I don't. I don't need to see him.

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Speaker 2: You know. I watched yesterday, we talked about Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 2: the last thing you can afford. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think if if, if we are operating under the assumption

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Speaker 2: See, That's where I'm torn, because I see that side

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if we have it, Austin. I

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Speaker 2: let's so. So Wednesday, Joe Burrow makes the statement about

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Speaker 2: I thought at times he looked disinterested. There were times

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Speaker 2: And then this is what you'remar Chase had to say

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Speaker 2: well we will get to that. We'll get to what.

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase the second I can pull it up.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to what Jamar Chase had to say, and

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Speaker 2: in just a moment. But again I retweeted this earlier

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Speaker 2: to three interceptions for Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: I thought the first interception is a ball that Jamar

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Speaker 2: you know Joe better than just about anybody. What do

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Speaker 2: you do to lift him?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 8: If I'm being honest, I never I never been in

437
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Speaker 8: a situation with him where I had to uplift him,

438
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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. But going forward I might

439
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Speaker 8: need to because he does it to me at the

440
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Speaker 8: end of the day, and you never know what he

441
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Speaker 8: might be going through, so I might I might need

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Speaker 8: to start doing that. You know, I'm not sure. This

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Speaker 8: is my first time. You know, probably going to have

444
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Speaker 8: to if anything, but I probably doubt I will, But.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: We just probably just gonna kick it, chill and just

447
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Speaker 8: try not to talk about football, if I'm being honest. Yeah,

448
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Speaker 8: not really, no, Okay, So essentially I've never had to

449
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Speaker 8: do this before, but I feel like I'm gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: You never know what's going on in someone's life. That

451
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Speaker 2: to me, Austin, outside of even football alone, that to me,

452
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Speaker 2: is it if you again, if you take that to

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Speaker 2: play and the conversation we had from Wednesday on last week,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you could come to the assumption

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Speaker 2: that there's not something else going on right now with

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow that I think people should should take note

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Speaker 2: of and make sure it gets taken care of.

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Speaker 3: I think we should also if we rewind back to

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Speaker 3: the Baltimore game on Thanksgiving night, in the way that

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Speaker 3: he was emotional after this, and you know, we were

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Speaker 3: all like, you know, thinking of it through the lens

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Speaker 3: of the toe injury, and I'm sure that was a

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Speaker 3: huge part of it, but also the way that he

464
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Speaker 3: reacted in those moments and then getting a game ball

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Speaker 3: after the game and being choked up and being all

466
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Speaker 3: choked up in the press conference. Yeah, clearly it's it's

467
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Speaker 3: obviously football and non football that's hagging having a negative

468
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Speaker 3: effect on him in some way, shape or form. And

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Speaker 3: you hadn't really seen it bleed into the football until

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Speaker 3: this week because even though the plays happened the way

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Speaker 3: that they did against Buffalo, like, he was still unreal

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Speaker 3: in that game, right for all but two snaps, correct,

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Speaker 3: and obviously they lose, and who knows what happens after that.

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Speaker 3: But I don't want to, I don't want to oversimplify it,

475
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Speaker 3: but it does just kind of seem like the vibe

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Speaker 3: is off.

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Speaker 2: Yes, something is off.

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Speaker 3: And for Jamar to say that the way he said it,

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Speaker 3: who is as transparent and open and honest as I've

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Speaker 3: ever heard an athlete and knows Joe very well, that

481
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Speaker 3: makes me a little bit concerned about. Okay, there's something

482
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Speaker 3: going on that maybe even Jamar doesn't know that much about,

483
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Speaker 3: correct it is, Uh, it's something to surely keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on. We'll continue to discuss as we go. When

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Speaker 3: we get back, we'll discuss with you. Your phone calls

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Speaker 3: Midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: For ten years. Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports taking Station. Speaking of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Holy moment, sound like me last week.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks. News from the University of Cincinnati, I

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Speaker 2: see this from Pete Thammel. Cincinnati quarterback Brendan Soresby has

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Speaker 2: informed the school that he intends to enter the ncublea

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Speaker 2: transfer portal. Sworsby told ESPN today he's waiting on his

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Speaker 2: NFL draft grade and he'll explore transferring as he waits

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Speaker 2: for feedback on the NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, So you know this was this is a topic

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Speaker 3: probably for later this week. But I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw my tweet this morning, but I started going

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Speaker 3: over NFL draft stuff this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is my initials because now you don't get to

504
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Speaker 2: do the playoff simulator anything exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I use that time now going towards the draft,

506
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Speaker 3: and I'm looking at the top ten picks in the draft,

507
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Speaker 3: and I'm looking at who might or might not need

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, and then I'm going through some of the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks if you go strictly off of Pro Football Focus

510
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Speaker 3: and their quarterback grades going into next year draft eligible quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Number one is Fernando Mendoza. He's ranked seventh on their

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Speaker 3: total prospects. Number two is Dante Moore, He's ranked tenth

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Speaker 3: on their total prospects. The next quarterback doesn't come until

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Speaker 3: fifty spots later, crazy, and it's Ty Simpson at number sixty.

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Speaker 3: So even if the Bengals finish with a pick right now,

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Speaker 3: they're ninth. If they are to finish ninth in the

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Speaker 3: draft with the number nine overall pick, I think five

518
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Speaker 3: of the eight teams ahead of them would need a quarterback,

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Speaker 3: but there would only be too eligible to be drafted.

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Speaker 3: I think no one's going to be reaching front of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where he would fit in that. I

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Speaker 3: don't know that he's better than Ty Simpson. But it's

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Speaker 3: going to be a strange, strange year for the draft

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Speaker 3: because I don't know that there's going to be hardly

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Speaker 3: any quarterbacks taken at all.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine Swarersby is playing college football at different

527
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Speaker 2: school somewhere, I would think, so, I don't think he's

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Speaker 2: actually those numbers are true about being offered what four

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Speaker 2: million dollars? Yeah, multiple four billion dollar offers reported out there.

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Speaker 2: They should go get it. Michigan needs a quarterback, go

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Speaker 2: get them. Let's take a couple of phone calls here.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's dive. Let's dip our toes into this. Mark

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Speaker 2: is calling in from Wyoming. What's up, Mark?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd like to talk about Joe Burrow's leadership qualities.

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Speaker 9: I'm starting to wonder this is probably the first time

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Speaker 9: he faced elimination this early. You know, I think he

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Speaker 9: was injured a couple of times and he didn't play

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Speaker 9: the end of the year. So this is the first

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Speaker 9: time when when the chips were really down, you know,

540
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Speaker 9: he had to face it. And I think he shows

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Speaker 9: that he should by the palting and the cryptic words

542
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Speaker 9: and all that shows me that that's not a quality leader.

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Speaker 9: I mean, when you're a leader, when the chips are

544
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Speaker 9: down is when you have to be at your best.

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Speaker 9: You can't, you know, let it be seen. You're having

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Speaker 9: a bad day. You know, you think about like the

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Speaker 9: commander Battle of the Balls. He could have easily said, oh,

548
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Speaker 9: having a bad week or I don't know, personal life,

549
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Speaker 9: let's just give up, you know. No, they he stood firm.

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Speaker 9: You don't give up. And then I'm afraid that maybe

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Speaker 9: we're finding out the world doesn't have the leadership qualities

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Speaker 9: when when times are tough. It's easy to be good

553
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Speaker 9: when everything's going great, but when the chips are down,

554
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Speaker 9: are you going to stand up and be you know,

555
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Speaker 9: lead your team and make everybody better around you to

556
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Speaker 9: stop the situation? You know, That's the only thing I'm

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Speaker 9: worried about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mirk, we'll discuss that. I appreciate the phone call,

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Speaker 2: you know, for me, Austin, I don't think it's as

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Speaker 2: much of a leadership question for Burrow. Is something going

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Speaker 2: on on or off the field. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: it is that for him. Yeah, I think it's I

563
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Speaker 2: think the I think the way that he's been leading

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Speaker 2: doesn't come naturally to him. I think that's something he's

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Speaker 2: openly talked about, right, you know, of needing and we've

566
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Speaker 2: talked about that a ton of times with how he's

567
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Speaker 2: he's trying to do more like that. But I think

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Speaker 2: there is something more going on right now with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's anything. And you you watch how

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Speaker 2: teammates and players are around him and the way people

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Speaker 2: talk about him. I don't think it's a leadership question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, I'll go back to Thanksgiving night and the

573
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Speaker 3: way that Joseph Oside talked about having Joe Burrow back

574
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Speaker 3: and what that meant to the entire team and for

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Speaker 3: him too, apparently after the game yesterday address the team.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit like aj Green in

577
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Speaker 3: the sense of I don't speak much, but when I do,

578
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Speaker 3: it's supposed to mean something. And I don't know that

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Speaker 3: that Joe is ever that guy who's a get in

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Speaker 3: front of them and say, you know, we gotta be

581
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Speaker 3: tough today and the cold doesn't matter and Bobbla, I

582
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Speaker 3: don't know that he's to your point, I don't know

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Speaker 3: that that comes naturally for him. I do think it's

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Speaker 3: fair to wonder if they need an and I don't

585
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Speaker 3: know that an infusion of leadership from other positions on offense.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that with Jamar a little bit. Ted

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Speaker 3: Carriss is obviously one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, it goes back to the vibe being off in

590
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Speaker 3: some way, shape or form. If we want to look

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Speaker 3: ahead to like things I would like to see them

592
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Speaker 3: do in the off season. I got a name for you, okay,

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Speaker 3: j T.

594
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Speaker 2: Barrett. J T.

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Speaker 3: Barrett is the quarterbacks coach for the Chicago Bears. J

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Speaker 3: T was a huge part of Joe Burrow's development at

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, and Joe has said on the record, I

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Speaker 3: learned how to be a leader by watching j T. Bartt,

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Speaker 3: and it just makes me wonder.

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Speaker 5: You know.

601
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Speaker 3: Barrett was also with the Lions and was big in

602
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Speaker 3: the development of Jared Goff has been working with Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson and big in the development of Caleb Williams. I

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Speaker 3: wonder if there's a place, whether it's with Zach Taylor's

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Speaker 3: staff or not, where J T. Barrett would be considered,

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Speaker 3: just if nothing else, is somebody who could help Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow with you know, football in life.

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Speaker 2: Certainly seems like something you can at least listen to

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Speaker 2: and maybe kick the can a little bit on what's up?

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Speaker 10: John, Good afternoon, Fellas. Apparently, if Mike Brown owned a restaurant,

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Speaker 10: he wouldn't employ any bus boys, and we'd have to

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Speaker 10: come in and clear our own tables before ordering food.

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Speaker 10: So at least we know that going in. That's just

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Speaker 10: a good thing to know that when you get to

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Speaker 10: the restaurant, clear your own table, and then we can

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Speaker 10: go from there. As far as Joe Burrow, I think

617
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Speaker 10: obviously there's something on his mind, something in his life

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Speaker 10: that's not quite right. I think part of it, too,

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Speaker 10: is we're talking about a superstar quarterback and what is

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Speaker 10: still a pretty smaller city. I mean, it's not La

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Speaker 10: and New York where he could kind of blend in.

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Speaker 10: He I mean, you're there, I'm not. He seems like

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Speaker 10: the guy in the city, right. I mean maybe Elie

624
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Speaker 10: Della Cruz comes in second, But I think Burrow is

625
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Speaker 10: probably feels like he's suffocated there right, Like he talks

626
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Speaker 10: about it all the time. I don't go out like

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Speaker 10: it seems to me that the facility and he goes

628
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Speaker 10: to that mansion is and I think at times it

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Speaker 10: almost feels like he's isolated a little.

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Speaker 2: Prisoner of his own house.

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Speaker 10: So that's part of it. But I wanted to just

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Speaker 10: touch on something you brought up quickly earlier Tony about

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Speaker 10: a lot of the late hits on him. Yesterday, there

634
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Speaker 10: was one along the sideline that I thought was going

635
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Speaker 10: to be a flag.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 10: Then the final play the first half, Mike Clark went

638
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Speaker 10: for his knees and nothing happened. And then in the

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Speaker 10: third quarter, I remember someone Jones took two steps to

640
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Speaker 10: hit him and then started doing push ups on the field.

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Speaker 10: And I just get to ask you this, Tony, he's

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Speaker 10: a quarterback. When you were playing with Cincinnati, what would

643
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Speaker 10: change a trap all you've done?

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Speaker 2: Anybody did that? Yep, you're going you're going to probably

645
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Speaker 2: border along the lines of a of a fifteen yard

646
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Speaker 2: penalty if you're doing that to a quarterback offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: You want the guy that's going to come in and

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Speaker 2: impose their will. You want a guy that's gonna come

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Speaker 2: and look if it takes a fifteen yarder after the

650
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Speaker 2: play because you think someone's taking cheap shots on your quarterback,

651
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Speaker 2: I'll gladly take that. I will gladly say now we're

652
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: gonna make We're gonna we're gonna put our foot down. Now,

653
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: this isn't gonna be what we're doing you're not gonna

654
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: get shots on our quarterback. That to me, that that's

655
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Speaker 2: been something I've brought up over the years now and

656
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: seeing that yesterday, that's worrisome to me because those guys

657
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: should be sprinting over there to make sure one Joe

658
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: is okay and two make sure those accountable for taking

659
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: that extra unnecessary hit are gonna be dealt with.

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Speaker 10: This is the only team I've ever seen that commits

661
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Speaker 10: a false start and the player who commits a faalse

662
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Speaker 10: start still get speed. And then this is the only

663
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Speaker 10: team I've ever seen that when they hold, they still

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Speaker 10: get beat. I mean, it's just it's fatilable that the

665
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Speaker 10: offensive line is that way. And again I've said before,

666
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Speaker 10: it seems like they have two nicer guys on the

667
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Speaker 10: offensive line. I mean Ted Carris, I know him from

668
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 10: being with the Patriot, is as fine a person as

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Speaker 10: there is in the world. He's that good a person.

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Speaker 10: But I think you need some sort of maybe a

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Speaker 10: lulatkick on the offensive line. Look, Monte is perfect, maybe

672
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Speaker 10: not the perfect person, but he's a hell of a

673
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Speaker 10: football player, and that would not have happened with him

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Speaker 10: on the field, even though he's a defensive player. Who

675
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Speaker 10: is the muscle on this team.

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Speaker 2: Who is the guy.

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Speaker 4: That's a little bit off.

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Speaker 10: It might be Javar Chase and he had to go

679
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 10: spit in the face of Jalen Ramsey and get suspended.

680
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Speaker 10: You don't want your quarterback doing this stuff. There's got

681
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Speaker 10: to be somebody that maybe they're so cognizant of drafting

682
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Speaker 10: good people because of in the past they had some

683
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Speaker 10: kind of crazy guys that they've left out, people that

684
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Speaker 10: might be edgy and low football's edgy. You need someone

685
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Speaker 10: that's going to step up for that. I thought that

686
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 10: was just apporable yesterday that far back get hit and

687
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Speaker 10: you do nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing it from Zach Taylor either. I

689
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind seeing Zach Taylor lose his mind about his

690
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: quarterback taking multiple hits borderline late on the whistle. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent with you, John. I appreciate the

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Speaker 2: phone call, man, Thank.

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Speaker 10: You, take care of fellas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, what's up? Mike?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thank you guys. Hope you had a good weekend.

696
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 5: Although it was really cold on that, wasn't it. Yes, yes, yeah,

697
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: it sounds like the snow ended up being a little

698
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: bigger of a deal I than they made it sound

699
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 5: from what I could tell, But you know, keeping up

700
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Speaker 5: with Cincinnati was. Hey, i'll tell you one thing out

701
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Speaker 5: in Las Vegas paper, they've said that Brady is drooling

702
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: over Mendoza, just drooling over menoj So I would assume

703
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Speaker 5: he's going to be the first pick unless there's a

704
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Speaker 5: shocker involved there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an organization that has to have a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, And I know you want that defensive

707
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 5: guy through the Bengals if they can get him.

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've got to go defense. I think

709
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs with the safety play that they have right now.

710
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Speaker 2: I hate that we're in, you know, midway through December,

711
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Speaker 2: having to talk about mock drafts, but I think they

712
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Speaker 2: such need an upgrade at safety in so many other

713
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Speaker 2: spots on defense that that would be my pick.

714
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I know you said that several times. To speak

715
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Speaker 5: of another issue of talking about the Bear you're talking

716
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Speaker 5: about J. T. Barrett. I was reading this morning. This

717
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Speaker 5: is the first time since nineteen seventy seven that the

718
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Speaker 5: Bears have had a top five offense that's late in

719
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Speaker 5: the season, first time since seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said earlier, first time since seventy seven. For

721
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Speaker 2: that first time since nineteen ninety eight, the playoffs won't

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Speaker 2: include Peyton Manning, Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes.

723
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Speaker 5: Tony. That team in Austin, that team is solid too.

724
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Speaker 5: And two, I don't see there are any real weaknesses

725
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Speaker 5: on that team nowhere.

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Speaker 2: If they can continue to get the consistent play that

727
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Speaker 2: they're getting out of Caleb Williams. Their defense is just

728
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: as good as anybody else. That's a good Browns defense.

729
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Speaker 2: They they dominated that game yesterday.

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Speaker 5: They did, and they're off that they ran the ball

731
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Speaker 5: just just to basically played a perfect game, Which leaves

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Speaker 5: me into my next point. Don't you think that Ben

733
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Speaker 5: Johnson and John McVay are the two best first year

734
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Speaker 5: head coaches you've seen in maybe your life.

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Speaker 2: It'd be hard to go against it right now with

736
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Speaker 2: how good that they're both operating. And Ben Johnson it

737
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: wasn't easy early. You remember, they lost their first two games,

738
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Speaker 2: and I think people are a little bit concerned. They

739
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: gave up fifty two to the Lions in Week two,

740
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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they reeled off the

741
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Speaker 2: four straight wins and got things going back in the

742
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Speaker 2: right direction. So it wasn't easy early, but they stayed

743
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Speaker 2: the course and now they are reaping the rewards of

744
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Speaker 2: it for sure.

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Speaker 5: So I did want to mention just one quick college

746
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 5: basketball team before you go. But do you guys think

747
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 5: that the I know, because you guys know, do you

748
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Speaker 5: I know they're not going to get rid of Zach probably,

749
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Speaker 5: But do you think they'll they'll get some different coordinators or.

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Speaker 2: Anything, or I would think so. I think the next

751
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: I think how the next three weeks pan out, and

752
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Speaker 2: how the team responds, and if the team fights or

753
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: if they kind of roll over. I think is going

754
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Speaker 2: to go a long way in deciding that.

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Speaker 5: And real quick coach cal has got one hell they

756
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Speaker 5: do college basketball team talking about energetic.

757
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and battle test and I think they've played every

758
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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen or Elite eight team from last year already

759
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Speaker 2: on the schedule.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have the number one toughest pre conference schedule

761
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Speaker 5: in the nation. And in that game the other day,

762
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Speaker 5: I thought they were going to lose that game to

763
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Speaker 5: Tack and they came back and just smoked them in

764
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Speaker 5: the second hand.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't get easier as well. They got Houston

766
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Speaker 2: coming up on the twentieth as well, So they've scheduled

767
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Speaker 2: well and it should bode well for them down the stretch. Mike,

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Speaker 2: thank you man, have a great one.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you Tho.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, we'll take a break. We'll come back. We'll

771
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: put a bow on our number one. If we can

772
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Speaker 2: grab another call or two, we will. Evan Andrews will

773
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Speaker 2: join us from Cincy Favorites to kick off our number two.

774
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Speaker 2: He'll stop I briefly to talk had some holiday stuff

775
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: that they got going on. More on the Bengals and Ravens.

776
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Speaker 2: Your talkbacks all coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

777
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Speaker 2: Sports Station, the Monday Midday Quarterback for.

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Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback. We got just

780
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Speaker 2: a minute or two, so let's see if we get

781
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: squeezed one or two more calls in before the top

782
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Speaker 2: of the hour. Steve, what's going on?

783
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Speaker 11: Hey?

784
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Speaker 7: Are you doing today?

785
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: Guys? Good?

786
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: Hey, listen.

787
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Speaker 12: I've always wanted to ask us about from you guys

788
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 12: and the media types.

789
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Speaker 4: You know.

790
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Speaker 12: I I love lap them, I really do.

791
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Speaker 5: But I was.

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Speaker 12: Watching or listen to the post game yesterday and he

793
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 12: was talking to Zach Taylor and within about thirty seconds,

794
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 12: Lap was wanting to talk about the Miami Dolphins, and

795
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 12: then he finally went into well, I guess we're playing

796
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 12: for pride now. Is the relationship between media guys and

797
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 12: the organization?

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Speaker 10: Is it so tenuous that you can't be critical?

799
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Speaker 2: Uh, Steve, thank you for the phone call.

800
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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's tenuous. Awesome. I think for Lap particular,

802
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 2: it's probably hard because he's the voice of the Bengals.

803
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's and Lap to his great Lap

804
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: is critical of the Bengals. He's extremely critical. He's very

805
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: critical of him. It's also a very unique situation. The

806
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: game has just ended. There's a lot of emotions in

807
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: the locker room. It's it's it's not easy to come

808
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: up with those questions right after the game either.

809
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you would know because you talked to

811
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Speaker 3: Sadderfield and those guys right away, and you would be

812
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: able to speak on that better than I could. But

813
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Speaker 3: it's a it's a difficult job. Lap I think pretty

814
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: much has the ability to do and say pretty much

815
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: whatever he wants because he's been with the team for

816
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: fifty years and how he chooses to approach those interviews is.

817
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: Is it's also hard like to like something that I

818
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: take with it, Like when I'm interview in Scott's Soderfi

819
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Speaker 2: after game, He's had no chance to look at film

820
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: or anything, right, Like today would be a different story

821
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Speaker 2: when you get to ask Zach questions today, That to

822
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Speaker 2: me is a different story.

823
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: Right, and we normally hear a much different Zach today. Correct? Correct? Tyson?

824
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey, brother?

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Speaker 13: I appreciate you guys taking the call. I'm a California

827
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Speaker 13: chance to plan coach college football provert decade. Steve Michagan

828
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 13: is actually my father in law. He was the wide

829
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Speaker 13: receiver coach with the Bengals through a great tenure for

830
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 13: you guys in regards to talent. Hey, I'm a Bronco fan,

831
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Speaker 13: but I grew up in Oaken, California, so you know

832
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 13: where I'm coming from. But I will tell you, guys,

833
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Speaker 13: I do appreciate this Bengals organization and specifically the team,

834
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Speaker 13: and I will and I'm probably not going to be

835
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Speaker 13: saying tote in the company line, but I'm just gonna

836
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Speaker 13: state it because I'm coming from a perspective outside.

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Speaker 14: Looking in one.

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Speaker 13: The first thing is Al Golden definitely has a proven

839
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 13: track record in regards to how we put together defenses,

840
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 13: and quite frankly, the Bengals are not the greatest show

841
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 13: on turf. I know we want to position it that way,

842
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 13: but we're just not what we really should look at.

843
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 13: And you know it's kind of ironic, but you look

844
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 13: at those Ravens teams with Al Golden as DC, with

845
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 13: the type of talent that's coming up in the upcoming draft,

846
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 13: we should start building this defense to be prepared to

847
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 13: be one of the best in the league with a

848
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Speaker 13: great quarterback that understands how to manage games, protect him,

849
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Speaker 13: protect a D and move forward from there. The second

850
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Speaker 13: thing that's not going to be a big favorite is

851
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 13: AJ Green has to go or not AJ Green, I'm sorry,

852
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 13: T Higgins has to go.

853
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: Right.

854
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 13: We have to be able to clear out some cap

855
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 13: space so we can understand what we can do in

856
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 13: free agency. The last piece of it is my humble opinion,

857
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 13: Burrow should not be playing at all. It should be wholesale.

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00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 13: Let everybody. Let the second teamers get in, see if

859
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 13: we can procure development, develop some other players to see

860
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 13: if they can be contributors for us next year, but

861
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 13: there's no way in heck for this city that we

862
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 13: should have our quarterback going in there when it really

863
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 13: just does not matter right now. If the organization of

864
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 13: the whole can't convince Burrow of that, then there's an issue.

865
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Speaker 13: And that goes for other starters as well, because if

866
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Speaker 13: we're really looking to build a championship team, which I

867
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 13: feel wholeheartedly like the Bengals are very close to that,

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Speaker 13: there's pieces that are essential. But at the end of

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Speaker 13: the day, if they don't make that decision like our

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Speaker 13: guys and make sure that they can get the rest

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Speaker 13: keep them in the great state of mind, then ultimately

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Speaker 13: then we're not out here to win. And I hope

873
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Speaker 13: that's not the case. I know that the hard conversation

874
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Speaker 13: easier said than done to competitors like a Chase and

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Speaker 13: a Burrow and the rest of them. But guess what,

876
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Speaker 13: we're here for the long haul, and if we brought

877
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Speaker 13: them in and we paid them for the long haul,

878
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Speaker 13: let's prepare for the next season like we're here for

879
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Speaker 13: the long haul with them and we're ready to go

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Speaker 13: win a championship.

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Speaker 2: That's all I got, Yes, Tyson. I appreciate the phone call.

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Speaker 2: I think that Austin will be a lot of the

883
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Speaker 2: topic of conversation going forward as we get into even

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Speaker 2: this week alone as to what's next for the Cincinnati Bengals,

885
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 2: what's next for us? Evan Andrews with Cincy Favorites, there's

886
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Speaker 2: going to stop by and talk to us about some

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Speaker 2: some last minute holiday deals with so many local, iconic

888
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati restaurants and things that you can get someone you love.

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Speaker 2: We'll parlay that into talkbacks here now at number two

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back our number two. ESBN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station, Monday midday Quarterback rolls on. We got

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Speaker 2: a guest in studio today. We need to like, we

908
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Speaker 2: needed this break today. It's been all Bengals all day today.

909
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Speaker 2: It's been very stressful because of everything that happened yesterday. So, uh,

910
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Speaker 2: let's switch gears a little bit. We are uh, we

911
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Speaker 2: are approaching quickly. Uh now the holiday season. It'll be

912
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Speaker 2: here before you know it. So uh, let's spend some

913
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Speaker 2: time on what could be some holiday cheer. Let's talk

914
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Speaker 2: a little uh since he favorites, let's talk with Evan Andrews,

915
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: who's joining us right now. What's going on? Absolutely a lot,

916
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: so you get you get to view this now. I

917
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: got I'm breaking down film in here on the commercial breaks.

918
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what went wrong in yesterday's game.

919
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 16: It's I'm the wrong guy to ask what went wrong.

920
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Speaker 16: It's it's a little comment now. Uh, Dean Gregory was

921
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Speaker 16: in here the other day. Now Dean has a lot

922
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Speaker 16: to comment. Dean has a lot to comment about. He

923
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 16: brought us lunch, but has said that they haven't been

924
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 16: able to find tom and Montgomery is and he just

925
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Speaker 16: takes vacations. He leaves at the most.

926
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Speaker 2: He didn't.

927
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Speaker 16: So here's the thing. He didn't take vacation. He's out

928
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Speaker 16: calling the herd to get us more clients on the west.

929
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Speaker 2: That's all he was doing. Dean just said he hadn't

930
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Speaker 2: heard from him. He said, you know, he's worried about him.

931
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Speaker 2: I know Montgomery's got some awesome stuff coming up.

932
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Speaker 17: I know.

933
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Speaker 2: Uh lunchtime now is is? Uh is happening. It's in

934
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Speaker 2: full effect that it's happening.

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Speaker 16: This week's our last week with lunch, So this Tuesday

936
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Speaker 16: through Friday we're open for lunch.

937
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Speaker 2: And it's been great.

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Speaker 16: We did it for the month of December, but our

939
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Speaker 16: customers love it, our employees love it. It's great to

940
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Speaker 16: have everybody back at lunch.

941
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Speaker 2: Let's discuss a little bit of something where Montgomery and

942
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Speaker 2: is available with it's Cincy favorites. It is.

943
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Speaker 16: We started that business. I started shipping the ribs and

944
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Speaker 16: Sauce in nineteen ninety four. Yeah, and then I added

945
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Speaker 16: everybody else. Probably in two thousand and one we added Skyline, Greaters,

946
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Speaker 16: l Roses, Glears. Now we ship Pine Club, Jeff Ruby Steaks.

947
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Speaker 2: Just so for the longest time, you're just shipping Montgomery In,

948
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Speaker 2: just us.

949
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Speaker 16: But then we had people bring us, Oh, here's some chili,

950
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Speaker 16: here's some ice cream. Can you add this? Can you

951
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 16: add this? Well, the light bulb went on and I thought,

952
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Speaker 16: you know, there might be something to this business, and

953
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Speaker 16: so we expanded it and it's just grown exponentially every

954
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Speaker 16: single year.

955
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Speaker 2: It's such a Montgomery In is such a Cincinnati staple,

956
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Speaker 2: and you hear people that come in from out of

957
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Speaker 2: town that have been there that talk about it. You

958
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Speaker 2: also don't realize the people that leave Cincinnati. You know,

959
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: as someone that lived in Charlotte for years, you miss

960
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: immediately the taste of home. You're right so many times,

961
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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 16: A very unique city. I've had buyers from different grocery

963
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Speaker 16: chains around the country all comments there's no other city

964
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Speaker 16: like Cincinnati where there are so many local players that

965
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Speaker 16: control the market. And it's true. We've got a great

966
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Speaker 16: flavor profile in this town.

967
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Speaker 2: Talk about a little bit about the packages that you

968
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Speaker 2: guys have together. I know there's a Cincinnati holiday gift collection.

969
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Speaker 2: I know you can also build your own gift box

970
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Speaker 2: with people. You can build your own cooler, build your

971
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Speaker 2: own box.

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Speaker 16: That's the one great thing about our business is we

973
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Speaker 16: don't pre pack six eight months ahead of time and

974
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 16: say this is what you have to order. Sure you

975
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Speaker 16: want to have four slabs or ribs, two pints of

976
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Speaker 16: black raspberry chip from Graders. You want some Glears Getta

977
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Speaker 16: some Queen City sausages, some Gleers brats, whatever you want,

978
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Speaker 16: We'll put it together for you.

979
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: Ship it. It's easy. So the shipping is included as well.

980
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 2: So all people are doing essentially in this they're going

981
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Speaker 2: to the website.

982
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 16: Going to the website place their order. Air shipping is

983
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Speaker 16: an additional charge. We have a small ground shipping charge,

984
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Speaker 16: but it's very very nominal. We're not Amazon. I got

985
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Speaker 16: to pay for it somehow. So it does well. But

986
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Speaker 16: like I said, build your own basket, build your own box,

987
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Speaker 16: build your own cooler.

988
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: We have it all ready for you. Start to finish

989
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: what from a time point standpoint, how long are to get.

990
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 16: You if you would have sent the email in the

991
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Speaker 16: well right now, we're about a twenty four hour delay,

992
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Speaker 16: So so you still get it in before the holidays.

993
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like we're still we have about

994
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Speaker 16: eight hundred shipments going out today. Probably we'll cut it

995
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Speaker 16: off tomorrow at about eight hundred. But we're building every

996
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 16: single day, so we're good. We still have plenty of time.

997
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 16: Just don't wait till next Monday. Right, That's usually where

998
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 16: I'm at. So I'm ahead of the schedule already curve here.

999
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 16: And I feel like you guys are constantly adding as one.

1000
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Speaker 16: I think that's one of the brilliant things about since

1001
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Speaker 16: you favor is you don't just have to be tied

1002
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Speaker 16: to X amount of brands. I feel like you guys

1003
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Speaker 16: are constantly adding new arrivals to to your.

1004
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: Fleet as well.

1005
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Speaker 16: We're very fortunate that we've we've created something it's almost

1006
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 16: like the frozen, uh you know, version of Amazon sure where.

1007
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 16: And we've got friends now with the Russo family with

1008
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 16: Russo's Ravioli. We've got the College Hill Cakeriy.

1009
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: The College Hill Care has like they have they have

1010
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Speaker 2: done like three of my children's birthday parties up to

1011
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: this point. So when I saw them on the website,

1012
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, that's good.

1013
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 16: And she makes an ooey gouey buttercake, which is very

1014
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 16: unique to the Saint Louis and Philadelphia market.

1015
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: This is phenomenal. It is really really great.

1016
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Speaker 16: But then you've got you've got Alex Platner from Saint

1017
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,479
Speaker 16: Francis Apisa. He was just given the highest vote ever

1018
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Speaker 16: by Portal on barstool for pizza and we've been shipping

1019
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 16: his out for about six months, so you can get

1020
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Speaker 16: Saint Francis Apisa shipped out with us too. So we've

1021
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Speaker 16: got we've got a great, great stable of brands.

1022
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: For those listening that may be out of state that

1023
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: want to order their own, or for those listening in

1024
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: state that have someone that they want to send to.

1025
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: What's the easiest way you would direct people.

1026
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 16: Would do so go right online since he favorites dot

1027
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Speaker 16: com and go online. If you do have questions, just

1028
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Speaker 16: call our toll free number. It's real simple. It's one

1029
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 16: eight hundred US a ribs, real easy.

1030
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: So between everything going on Montgomery in between Cincy, FA

1031
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: is busy time for you. It's great, great enjoyable time.

1032
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful time. It really is. Yeah, we're very blessed.

1033
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: And the lunch at Montgomery and ends this week this week,

1034
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 2: lunch hours end this.

1035
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 16: Week, and you'll find Tom and Dean in both restaurants. Wow,

1036
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 16: how about that? How about no? I keep promising Dean

1037
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 16: I'm gonna come down. I told him last week.

1038
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: I said, I got three kids under five years old,

1039
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: and he said, bring him. He's willing babysitter. Uh, you

1040
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: may want to bring a babysitter. So I'm a little

1041
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: nervous about that it would be, but he'll be there.

1042
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: It is, it's it's awesome. I had this sent to

1043
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: me when I was down in Carolina, uh for for

1044
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: a holiday one year, just a family members that wanted

1045
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: to to make you feel at home when you can't

1046
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: be at home over the holidays. And like you said,

1047
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: it's such a unique city and there are so many

1048
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: distinct restaurants and places that are tied to it that

1049
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't think people even realize you can get in

1050
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 2: other places. Right.

1051
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 16: You know, our tagline has always been send the things

1052
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 16: you loved are the ones you love, and it's that's it.

1053
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 16: You love all the local favorites you love your family,

1054
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 16: so send them the best of both.

1055
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Evan Andrews. I cannot thank you enough for stopping by.

1056
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: You've given us some positivity, got on a dark afternoon.

1057
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 16: Right now, We've got we've got great players, We've got

1058
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 16: great fans.

1059
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: That's all you need. I love it. I love it,

1060
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: Evan Andrews. Go check him out right now since he

1061
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: favorites dot com.

1062
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 5: Uh.

1063
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: Still time to get in those holiday orders as well.

1064
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: We'll take a break the Monday midday Quarterback with your

1065
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: talkbacks coming up next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1066
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Speaker 18: Hey, Alex, talk backs, Press the microphone and record your

1067
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 18: message for Austin in.

1068
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: Tone, Please keep it clean and don't be mean.

1069
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 18: And a sprinkle, sprinkle, drip drifts.

1070
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks.

1071
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 18: It's our favorite part since three sixty So Austin, buddy,

1072
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 18: play those bunkbacks on your screen and please dry, not

1073
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 18: too sabotage.

1074
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: All right, A full Monday slate here of talkbacks on

1075
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: the Monday midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1076
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: And I'm excited to get a little bit nervous to

1077
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: get to these today. Austin, same let's do it.

1078
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 19: Hey fellas, it's Benny.

1079
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, Vinny like this.

1080
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 11: I'm coming after your boy, but it's time to shut

1081
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 11: it down.

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Speaker 19: Joey b aka Gus Farat.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's the worst quarterback performance I've ever seen in

1084
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 11: my life. He's not him. I don't know what he's

1085
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 11: gotta do. He's got to get back in church. He's

1086
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 11: got to go do ayahuasca. He may have to go

1087
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 11: do the Aaron Rodgers black Box. But something ain't right. Zach,

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00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 11: you got to be fired. Worst play Colin I've ever seen.

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Speaker 11: Run the dang ball. Man run the.

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00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Ball, oh Man, run the rock.

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Speaker 17: They say, hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And Well,

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 17: being a longtime politician, I thought of Joe Burrow's press

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00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 17: conference last week as more of a concession speech than anything.

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: And it looks like I was right.

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 7: He's checked out.

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Speaker 17: Well, now I've got to go have my hindquarters checked out,

1097
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 17: as I think I have developed a severe case of

1098
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 17: frostbite on my caboose because someone failed to clear off

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Speaker 17: the snow from my seat at pay Corpse Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Very sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 20: He the tough loss Monday, Tony and Austin last Friday,

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00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 20: I asked you guys, what was your most memorable Christmas gift?

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 20: And Austin said, a new car. I think it's stock

1104
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 20: time that to ask him. Is he a Nepo baby? Anyways,

1105
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 20: I think Joe Burrow met up with Messy when he

1106
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 20: was in town to get some flopping lessons. Some of

1107
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 20: those hits were ridiculous on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I'm an only child. Oh my gosh.

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00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 21: So here's my question today. Since we live in Cincinnati

1110
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 21: and we all know it's very conservative here and the

1111
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 21: businesses and the business people and the.

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Speaker 22: I'm not going to finish that, all right, hey, fellas,

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00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 22: Today's question is, now that the season is over and

1114
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 22: has been an unmitigated disaster, would it go a long

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00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 22: way and keeping Joe Burrow happy and keeping the fan

1116
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 22: base happy if the Bengals were to not wait inpire

1117
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 22: Zach Taylor today.

1118
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what it would do to do it

1119
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: today versus at the end of the year. I did

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Speaker 2: find it interesting in Austin, I'm already seeing names thrown around.

1121
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: Ryan Day was one of the ones I saw thrown around.

1122
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: Ryan Day to come here, could he help? That's what

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00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Day would do? He would laugh.

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00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 3: I think Zach Taylor is well liked by the people

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00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: and the players on this team for the most part.

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00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure not everybody loves him, but I think he's

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00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: well liked. I don't know that that would necessarily make

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: them happy.

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say should should him being well liked me

1130
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: and him keeping his job?

1131
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm answering the question. The question was would it go

1132
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: a long way and keeping Burrow happy and keeping the

1133
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 3: fan base happy if the Bengals were to not wait

1134
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: and fire Zach Taylor today. I don't know that them

1135
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: firing him today would make anyone on the team happy.

1136
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: It would make a lot of people in the fan

1137
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 3: base happy. Yes, I don't see them, based off their

1138
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: history doing that, though.

1139
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 23: What's up, guys? As you fired yesterda exact sailor nothing

1140
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 23: ever will with this organization. And did you know since

1141
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 23: the being able to that he can chase and Burrow's

1142
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 23: only played thirty seven percent of the games together.

1143
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: That's amazing, and you know, I knew he was going

1144
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: to lose this game.

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Speaker 23: I kind of blame this one on Burrow from his

1146
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 23: antics earlier in the week, But if you looked at

1147
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 23: the schedule for next year, the third place schedule, I

1148
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 23: think we'd be thirteen.

1149
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: To four to fifteen to two. It'd be the one seed.

1150
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 23: And if you don't win next year, if you have

1151
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 23: not competitive in the final four.

1152
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and you blow it up, trade Burrow and Chase.

1153
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. I'm not even into the mock drafts,

1154
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: the coaching carousel. I'm surely not into the schedule yet.

1155
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: I know that this is probably an unpopular opinion. I've

1156
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: stuck with it. I still stand by it. I don't

1157
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: think they are as far away as people seem to

1158
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: think they are.

1159
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would say they're they're close.

1161
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're close to being back in

1162
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 3: the AFC champions.

1163
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: The goal is a super Bowl. I don't think they're

1164
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: any worse. I don't think they're close at all. I

1165
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: don't think they are as far as maybe you think

1166
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: they are.

1167
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 24: It's the Lord. Let me guess what we're going to

1168
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 24: talk about today.

1169
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 19: Yes, the Bengals losing again and having another losing season again.

1170
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 24: Sounds like a broken record to me.

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01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: Welcome to sports talk Radio.

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Speaker 24: Onto the draft. I don't know a whole lot about football,

1173
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 24: but I do know this. The game is one in

1174
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 24: the trenches. If the first two picks are not an

1175
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 24: offensive lineman and a defensive lineman, you guys are going

1176
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 24: in the wrong direction. If you have a good defensive line,

1177
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 24: it makes your linebackers better and your defensive backs better.

1178
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 24: If you have a good offensive line, it makes everybody

1179
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 24: on the offense better.

1180
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Speaker 2: Get it right? Who day?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, seems appropriate?

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01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: Man heard out Chrissy STAPs? When's you release a Christmas Man?

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01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 25: That's true, Mike Brown, don't worry about shoveling the snow

1184
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 25: off the seat for the fans. Don't worry about drafting

1185
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 25: Stewart in the first round. Don't worry about having Tevin

1186
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 25: Is the guy drafting these people. Don't worry about paying

1187
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 25: Henderson thirty million dollars for nothing. At least Miles, Murphy

1188
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 25: and Asi seem to be trending positive are as.

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01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: True, there's positives.

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: Decisions need to be made on those guys.

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, tal three years of missing the playoffs, Yes, we

1192
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 14: are actually wasting Joe Burrow's prime. Give me a coach

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 14: that instills will and toughness like Mike Rabel. You have

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 14: their quarterback running fifty yards down the field to throw

1195
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 14: a block. That's because he preaches toughness and they take

1196
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 14: on his personality.

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Speaker 2: We need to change.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I just don't think there's many mic Vrabels out there,

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Speaker 2: and the one that is happily with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing where I'm so confused about. Like, yes,

1202
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: if you want to fire Zach, I'm fine with that.

1203
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: Where are you finding the guy that's going to give

1204
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 3: you everything you want?

1205
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Day?

1206
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would trust Ryan Day to

1207
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: do that. Right again, We're gonna have to have this

1208
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: conversation a lot this offseason, especially if they fire Zach.

1209
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: Yep is that this is an organization that you have

1210
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: to be able to coach with one arm tied behind

1211
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 3: your back, and I don't know that financially they're ever

1212
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 3: going to commit to you the way other teams will

1213
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 3: as a head coach or with your coordinators. Yeah, they

1214
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: are unbelievably patient. And you have the best quarterback, many

1215
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: people say in the National Football League, and that in

1216
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: and of itself might be enough to get you to

1217
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 3: come to Cincinnati. But all the other crap that you

1218
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: have to deal with, yeah, like contracts and you know

1219
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: the guaranteed money and the defaulting and the stuff going

1220
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 3: on with the fans and the holdouts and the facilities

1221
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: and all that other crap that you have to deal with.

1222
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how much it becomes a desirable job

1223
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: for the top candidates.

1224
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody perry up in Westchester.

1225
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 26: And all I can say is, if Bengal management cannot

1226
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 26: read between the lines of the message that Joe Burrow

1227
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 26: is sending, they don't deserve to keep him.

1228
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 19: Clearly he's frustrated was Zach Taylor? We need some change.

1229
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 19: Zach has gotta go, or Joe will.

1230
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's clear that it's Zach Taylor

1231
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: that he's frustrated with in particular, but I do think

1232
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: it's clear that there's something going on.

1233
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you. I don't know that

1234
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: it's a Zach Taylor like the reason for Joe's frustration

1235
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: is directly Zach Taylor. I would not agree with that statement.

1236
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: Happy Monday, guys. It's Stean Madisonville.

1237
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 23: What, in your opinion is Mike Brown's legacy.

1238
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean that would be one I'd have to His

1239
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: legacy right now is that he is cheap and stubborn

1240
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 3: and has failed as an owner. That's his legacy. That's

1241
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: the narrative around the franchise. That's what everybody across the

1242
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 3: league thinks. I think he's a kind man. I think

1243
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: he's a smart man, but many would call him a

1244
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 3: ruthless businessman, a cheap owner, and a stubborn thinker. That's

1245
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: his legacy as of now, and you hope that it changes.

1246
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 27: Bah, humbug, This is Ebeneza. I applaud the Bengals on

1247
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 27: their efforts to deter fan activity in the seats. They're

1248
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 27: lucky to have seats.

1249
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: Are there?

1250
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 27: No scarves, are there? No mittens, cardboard? Bah, you will

1251
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 27: scrape the snow and ice off with your bad hands

1252
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 27: and be glad for it.

1253
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: Thank you, Ebenezer Scrooge.

1254
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 3: Thank you for that pause at the end there at.

1255
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 28: For the Ravens to say postgame that they can look

1256
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 28: in our players eyes and tell that they didn't want

1257
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 28: to be on the field. That's demoralizing as a Bengals fan, sure,

1258
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 28: and I know it's demoralizing as a Bengals player. That

1259
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 28: would be so embarrassing if I played for the Bengals

1260
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 28: and I heard them say that after the game, true

1261
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 28: or not, it's embarrassing, it's demoralizing, and it says more

1262
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 28: about Zach than anything else.

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01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's not much you can do after

1264
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: the game either. The second time you've played them, you're

1265
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: not going to play them again this year. If you

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01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: wanted to change it, you should have done so on

1267
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: the field.

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 29: I think the snow covered seats are the Cincinnati Bengals

1270
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 29: organization in a nutshell.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with Mo.

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Speaker 29: If the Bengals were ten and four or something like that,

1273
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 29: it wouldn't be a big deal. But you know what,

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01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 29: they're not ten and for. They're terrible, and they've had

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01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 29: a terrible season, and the fans are coming out in

1276
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 29: sub zero weather to support them anyway, and they show

1277
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 29: them what they think of them. They wonder why the

1278
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 29: Reds get more of a pass in the community even

1279
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 29: though they stink, is because of stuff.

1280
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 30: Like this, Hey Tony, Hey, Austin a just a truck

1281
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 30: driver on the road. You know, really, I think it

1282
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 30: comes down to a disrespect. There's a disrespect the way

1283
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 30: the Brown organization just is treated to this whole thing,

1284
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 30: you know, with if you know, with the stadium not

1285
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 30: being you know, the snow removal and just I just

1286
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 30: you know, status quo and just what we do and

1287
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 30: for that matter of the redch you know, it's just

1288
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 30: just kind of like he's a fan. You kind of

1289
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 30: get tired. I think that's where Burr was coming from.

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01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 7: I had enough, right, Hello boy, she just gab you

1291
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 7: from Kipton. Just wanted to reach out and ask you

1292
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 7: a simple question. Never never on the wall.

1293
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 15: Who's your biggest booge of all?

1294
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 7: Why is you John Cunningham?

1295
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 6: Anyways?

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Speaker 3: John Cunningham thought he got hand got off, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: skate free Yeah over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Nope, he didn't. He didn't.

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Speaker 28: He shout out Kobe Bryant for ending Grandpa's magical Yeah

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Speaker 28: come back debut.

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Speaker 2: At least that put a smile on my face this weekend.

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Speaker 24: I don't know what else did.

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Speaker 2: I was rooting for Phillip Rothers to get a win.

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: I wanted him to get to win. I did. I

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Speaker 2: saw et using chat GPT again on the sideline, told you, wait,

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Speaker 2: why was I sabotaged?

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Speaker 3: It's that's not your question was not a helpful question,

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Speaker 3: and quite frankly, I don't think relevant. So I sabotaged him.

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Speaker 3: That was it all right?

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Speaker 2: We have we have more to get to. We've got

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Speaker 2: a football in the NATTI. We've got your phone calls

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Speaker 2: we weren't able to get to, and hour number one

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot. It's five, one, three, seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. This is the Monday Midday Quarterback and you

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Speaker 2: are listening on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Then we hear it all the time, oh in the NATI.

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Speaker 6: Brought to you in part by Bud Light and by

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Speaker 6: Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back the Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Day. We know what the rest of the way

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Speaker 2: looks like for the Cincinnati Bengals. I believe they are

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: a small underdog now. Already in Week sixteen, Dolphins a

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Speaker 2: one and a half point favorite. Between now and then,

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Speaker 2: Dolphins do play the Steelers tonight Monday Night Football, and

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Speaker 2: the Bengals finish up after that with the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 2: and the Cleveland Browns, both of those games being at home.

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Speaker 2: As far as the rest of the NFL from yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Austin was the Rams win and how they did so

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: over the Lions the biggest statement win in your opinion

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: over the weekend. I thought Denver and bo Nicks with

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Speaker 2: four touchdowns against that Packers defense, which, by the way,

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons confirmed torn ACL nine months is expected to

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: be the recovery. But I did not see going into

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Speaker 2: the Packers Broncos game a thirty four to twenty six game.

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01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: I could see the Rams Lions being a high scoring game.

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: I thought Stafford was so impressive, Kyron Williams, Pukinakua, those

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Speaker 2: two stood out to me esterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna go with, excuse me, Denver over

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Speaker 3: green Bay, just the way that they played that game,

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 3: the way that Bodenis played it, and the absolute fearlessness

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01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: of Sean Payton multiple times on fourth down saying, you know,

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01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: we're not gonna beat the green Bay Packers kicking field goals,

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: We're not gonna beat the green Bay Packers punting, We're

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Speaker 3: gonna go for it on fourth down. I thought it

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01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 3: was an uber aggressive game from Sean Payton and trying

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: to secure that one seed basically for his team, and

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01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 3: they basically have without things going totally south. The rest

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Speaker 3: of the way with the way the Patriots lost. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would say, Denver.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the Patriots lost, They were up twenty one

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: nothing at home in that one over Buffalo. Buffalo comes

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01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 2: all the way back despite Austin fourteen carries in a

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01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: buck forty eight from Traveon Henderson, the New England Patriots

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: fall to the Buffalo Bills thirty five thirty one. Not

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: only does that knock off New England in their ten

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01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: game winning streak, all also makes things a little bit

1358
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: more interesting going down the stretch when you look at

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 2: the playoffs as far as Buffalo being able to potentially

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01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: catch the New England Patriots. So right now, Denver in

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01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: the driver's seat in the AFC. But all in all,

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Speaker 2: I thought a very impressive, impressive win from Buffalo, who

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: had every right to just kind of roll over and

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Speaker 2: call it yesterday twenty one down on the road, come

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Speaker 2: back and get that win. That's as impressive as it comes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I wonder a little bit about

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 3: next week being a potential trap game for the Buffalo Bills.

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: I know that might sound crazy, but they play in

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Speaker 3: Cleveland against that defense after a win like you just

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,520
Speaker 3: had it's gonna be I'm sure, really cold in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this upcoming week of games because

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Speaker 3: there's so many good ones, starting with Thursday night, Ram Seahawks. Saturday,

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Speaker 3: You've got Packers Bears on Saturday night. I mentioned that

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Speaker 3: Bill's Brown's game, which you know, on the surface, people

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,959
Speaker 3: who cares, But that's a great matchup Jaggs Broncos, happens

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: in Denver, the way Jacksonville played Steelers Lions with playoff

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: implications for both those teams, and obviously Patriots Ravens on

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01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 3: Sunday Night. Football gonna be a great week next week.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, I wonder if Buffalo starts to

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 3: feel the pressure mounting on them with no Burrow, with

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 3: no Mahomes, potentially no Lamar Jackson in the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be Bo Nicks, It's gonna be Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 3: it might be c J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine that the pressure would be mounting on

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01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 3: Buffalo to feel like, okay, this is our chance to

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Speaker 3: actually win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned two of the other teams as well. What CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud did yesterday getting much more comfortable back at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Three touchdown passes and what Jacksonville did you want to

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01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: talk about a turnaround? Trevor Lawrence five touchdown passes yesterday

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Speaker 2: Austin between the Jags and the Texans. I don't know

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 2: going into the playoffs with this open it is. You

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: mentioned pressure being on Buffalo Homes, no Burrow, potentially no

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. The Jags and Titans. I feel like if

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Speaker 2: you're a fan of those teams, you got to be

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 2: very confident with where your team's at and the direction

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: they're going.

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Speaker 3: Sure would you rather see make the playoffs? The Ravens

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Speaker 3: are the Steelers?

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01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh? If I don't had to pick, I don't want

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: to see either one of them win a championship. So

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: I would probably say the Steelers because you don't think

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: they could, because I don't think they can win at all.

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore it still does scare me if that offense gets going.

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01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 3: I want Pittsburgh, I think, to keep winning because they

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01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 3: don't know what they're gonna do at quarterback.

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01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in another awkward spot. And unless they convince

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Speaker 3: Rogers to come back. It's not like the free agent

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 3: class of quarterbacks next year is ridiculously talented.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the draft class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it makes me wonder like what their

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Speaker 3: plan would be.

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Speaker 2: I also wonder you mentioned that the trap game possibility

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Speaker 2: for Buffalo. What happened to the Browns defense? Yeah? Today?

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Speaker 2: Is that more about them just no showing? Or does

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01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: that say more about this Bears offense right now under

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson?

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01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: Think it says a lot about Ben Johnson. Yeah and

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: the Bears. I didn't get to see much of that game,

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 3: but I'm sure that was frigid as well. Yeah, and

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01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: I know Caleb made some stupid places. Chargers shout out

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 3: to them. They officially end the reign of the Kansas

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 3: City Chiefs. Yeah, it ends with Patrick Mahomes and an

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: ACL injury. Probably the last time Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelson.

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Speaker 2: You think so, I would think so. I think yesterday

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01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: it was more about how bad the Raiders are. The

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01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: Eagles beat them thirty one? Nothing.

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Speaker 3: What about a missed opportunity? Yeah, how about.

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01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: The missed opportunity for the Panthers. Tampa slips up. You're

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Speaker 2: in control of your destiny. You've got Tampa coming up

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: twice on the schedule, and you give it right back

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01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 2: by losing to the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'll tell you the Saints might have a dude

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 3: and Tyler Shuck. Yeah, they might have a dude. He

1437
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: finally realized that you should throw the ball at Chris Olave.

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty good. Good, probably something you should do

1439
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: more of. What about the Niners. Are we talking enough

1440
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: about the Niners or is it just the schedule? I mean,

1441
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: they still gave up twenty four yesterday to the Titans. Yeah.

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01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 3: I'm just not convinced on the Niners. But I don't

1443
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: know that they would they'll lose a game.

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did beat the Seahawks, they did split with

1445
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: the Rams. They do play the Seahawks at the end

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: of the year, and they go to Indy this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm just I don't know yet about them.

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if that team was an

1449
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,560
Speaker 3: early exit in the playoffs.

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: Anything with the Vikings Cowboys last night, No, I don't

1451
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: think so either. J. J.

1452
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 3: McCarthy played better. He did play better. Apparently there's some

1453
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: drama about him grittying into the end zone after Kevin

1454
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 3: O'Connell told him not to.

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, someone on that team's got a gritty true.

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01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: They forgot they had just they I think they've forgotten

1457
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 2: they have. Justin Jefferson had two catches for twenty two yards.

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: Did I hear them say that he hasn't caught a

1459
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: touchdown pass in forty two days? Really something like that.

1460
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it was hilarious to start to the game

1461
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: where Tariko and collins Worth they're talking about.

1462
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 2: How he's only got two on the year.

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: McCarthy hasn't thrown an interception, you know, didn't throw an

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01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 3: interception all of last the last game, and how that's

1465
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 3: like a big sigh relief for people in Minnesota.

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01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: In his first pass got bat Yeah, Justin Jefferson scored

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 2: in the first game, and then he scored on November

1468
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: two against the Lions. He has not scored since. That's crazy.

1469
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 2: Last week two catches eleven yards last night, two catches

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Speaker 2: twenty two yards. The game before that against Seattle, two

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Speaker 2: catches for four yards. He has thirty seven receiving yards

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Speaker 2: in his last three games combined. It's amazing. And we

1473
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: said the stat earlier. You mixed that with the stat

1474
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Speaker 2: between Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase right now connecting on

1475
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: just fifty eight percent of their targets for one touchdown

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: and three interceptions. This year. What a just an odd

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01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 2: year overall for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I saw that tweet circulating again. It's

1479
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be one of those years from like

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen when it was Brady and Fowles and Bortles

1481
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 3: and case Keenum or the final four quarterback standing. It

1482
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: kind of feels like it's going to be that. Yeah,

1483
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 3: this time. I do want to give Jamar some credit though,

1484
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: because he still played really well yesterday even though he

1485
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: had the two drops. He joined Randy Moss yesterday as

1486
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 3: the only players in NFL history Jamar Chase Randy Moss

1487
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 3: with sixty five hundred plus receiving yards and fifty or

1488
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: more touchdowns and their first five career seasons. There are

1489
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 3: two people on that list, Jamar Chase and Randy Moss.

1490
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: He also, with those ten catches he had, it's gone

1491
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: up over one hundred again. That is the third straight

1492
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: year with over one hundred receptions for Jamar Chase. He's

1493
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 3: third in the NFL in receptions with one hundred and one.

1494
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: Would you could you guess who's number one in the

1495
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: NFL without looking it up. Most receptions in the last

1496
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 3: Luca Pookah is second. Oh, you'll never get Jackson Smith. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Trey McBride with the Arizona Cardinals. He's

1498
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 3: coming here in a couple of weeks. Jamar is right now.

1499
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: He'll finish the year with one fifty. Jamar is fourth

1500
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 3: in receiving yards with eleven and forty seven. JSN and

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01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 3: Pukah our neck and.

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: Neck and now. So even though it feels like Jamar

1503
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: may not have the best year right now, he's third

1504
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 2: in receptions, in fourth and yards. I think that just

1505
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: speaks to how good he is overall. Jonathan Taylor still

1506
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: leads the NFL in rushing. James Cook is number two

1507
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 2: on that list. What a weird stat Austin Quinn Shawn

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01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: Judkins has now passed Chase Brown on the season total

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01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: rushes for samajp Ryan yesterday, Yeah, thirteen for Chase Brown. Yep.

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Speaker 2: These are things I have questions about. I don't understand it.

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand it through fourteen games. Do

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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,879
Speaker 2: you know who the passing leader from a yard standpoint

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: is in the NFL? I don't, Dak Prescott, followed by

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Mahomes, and Drake May. Stafford going

1515
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 2: to win the MVP. I think so. It'd be cool.

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01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: I think he's the MVP right now. We'll take a break,

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01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll finish up our number two of

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Speaker 2: the mon the Monday Midday Quarterback next on ESPN fifteen

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Monday mid Day Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: Sports Station. You missed any of it earlier in the

1524
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: show today, Patrick Mahomes and Micah Parson's ACL injuries.

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 3: May go ahead, say Andy Reid. Earlier today said that

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01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 3: Mahomes is going to Dallas for a second opinion on

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01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 3: the surgery that is required to repair the torn Aco

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01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 3: Okay left knee.

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 2: There you go. Fernando Mendoza wins the Heisman Trophy. Spurs

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: Knicks will play in the NBA Cup tomorrow. Xavier, Louisville, Kentucky,

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01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky, and Dayton all college basketball winners over the weekend.

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: The Bearcats, despite leading by eleven in the first half

1533
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 2: and being tied at the half, lose to Georgia by nineteen.

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: I think we'll talk more about that in the the

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: Tonian Most show.

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01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 3: Do you have anything you want to say about it

1537
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 3: right now?

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

1539
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm to your loyal listeners disgusted by it.

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01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have confidence in anything they're doing

1541
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 2: right now.

1542
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: The video of Wes Miller in that hallway dark almost

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01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 3: makes things worse.

1544
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: It does. It does like you want.

1545
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 3: To Like everybody always used the word the phrase in

1546
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 3: over his head around about Zach Taylor. That was kind

1547
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: of the feeling I got watched in that video of

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01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: Wes yep I.

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01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: I look at that and I just go by the feel.

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01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: Austin I. They were up eleven in the first half,

1551
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: and I was never confident they were going to win

1552
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 2: the game, And as soon as they went down by

1553
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: four in the second half, I felt like it was over.

1554
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: And you look at the Big twelve and how those

1555
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 2: teams are playing, I honestly don't know where the winds

1556
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: come in the Big twelve. I think it can get

1557
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 2: that bad right now for UC basketball. Adulus Garcia formerly

1558
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: of the Texas Rangers is a Philadelphia Philly one year.

1559
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 2: Ten million dollars is all it took, and Brendan Soarsby

1560
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: has officially entered the transfer portal while he awaits NFL

1561
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: grading right now. That is the uh, the most up

1562
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: to speed news from around the sports world. Also, there

1563
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: was I think some college football bowl games that happened

1564
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: over the weekend, or at least one.

1565
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 3: It was like the LA Bucked Up Bowl.

1566
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington dominated.

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01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: I think there was like sixty four people there, yes,

1568
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 3: which I mean it's in Los Angeles at SOFI Stadium

1569
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: and you found out six days ago that your team

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 3: was going to play there, yep, and it was a

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01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 3: blowout to Washington over Boise.

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01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 2: There was there was something else. I think there's a uh,

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01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 2: what's the Beans Bowl? I don't know, there's a like

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01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: a Bert's Beans Bowl? Is it Bert's or Bushes Bush's Beans?

1575
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: Is it Bush's Bag? Beas to be Bush's Bake Beans? Yeah,

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01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 2: that dog. I think if you go to that game

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01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 2: and you bring beans, you get in for free. That's

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: kind of cool.

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01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: So how about that now that I'm for yeah, doing

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: something nice, help you know, feed people during the holiday season.

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So bring in some beans and you get

1582
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: to go to the game for free. All right.

1583
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: You know that's saying about beans, don't you. Well they

1584
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: say beans, beans, the magical fruit. The more you eat,

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01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 3: the more you it's a fruit toot.

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: I thought it was beans. Beans are good for your heart.

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01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 2: The more you eat them, the more you Oh, I've

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01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: never heard that one. Yeah, the Boca Raton Bowl Boca

1589
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: Raton will offer free admission to the first two thousand

1590
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: fans to bring a can of beans into the game.

1591
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: As college football bowl game struggle to attract fan interest

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01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: in the age of the player opt outs, there's one game.

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01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: There's one game that's trying to increase attendance and doing

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01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: so for a good cause. Who knew beans would be

1595
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: what brings this thing back together?

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01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:55,799
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: I actually I said that to Moe yesterday. There was

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01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: a point. I remember going to the Military Bowl. I

1599
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 2: don't exactly remember what year it was, but Notre Dame

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01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 2: played Temple, and I remember going and watching my brother

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01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 2: or wake Forest played Temple. I'm sorry. I remember going

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01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: and I remember how much fun it was in twenty sixteen,

1603
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: But I also remember the energy in the stadium and

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: how much it meant to the players. I remember Bowl

1605
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: games that I went to. I remember attending Bowl games

1606
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: when I was done playing at the University of Cincinnati.

1607
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: And it's just one of those things, Austin that like

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01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: you get caught up in because you never I don't

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01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: think envisioned a moment where those games wouldn't matter. It

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 2: was such a to me an honor and you know,

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: made a reward at the end of the year, but

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01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: you also wanted to go win the game and have

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01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,679
Speaker 2: one last chance to go play with those those players

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01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 2: that you've spent so much time with. I miss being

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01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 2: a part of Bowl games or getting excited for Bowl

1616
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: games that means something, and I don't think they ever

1617
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: will again. That's tough.

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 3: It's a different it's a different world, it really is.

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01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: Speaking of stuff that don't feel like it's gonna happen again.

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01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: I also desperately miss going to the NCAA tournament watching basketball.

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01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Stop here dark, your team doesn't have to be in

1622
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: to watch. I don't know you you go right up

1623
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: the road or you go down to Lexington. Yeah, head

1624
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: over to Indianapolis. Maybe, what are you guys coming up?

1625
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: An hour three? I'm gonna ask James or Peeing what

1626
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 3: the hell's going on the Bengals. He's gonna join me

1627
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 3: at too, a click answer. He's got all that. We

1628
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 3: haven't had James on in a while. I just I

1629
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: want to know what the hell is going on? Ye

1630
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: tell him to quit like tagging me and stuff too.

1631
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 3: I don't need to race him. You don't want to race.

1632
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to play basketball.

1633
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 3: But that's also just like it's part of who he is. Yeah,

1634
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,559
Speaker 3: you know you live with that. Yeah, to get to

1635
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: all the other.

1636
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 2: Stuff, James, he'll kick alf hour number three. Next with Austin.

1637
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm heading to Twin Peaks in Florence for the Tony

1638
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: and Mo Football Show from three to six. Come join us,

1639
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 2: and Mo has promised that he'll clean your seat off

1640
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: if you come out to Twin Peaks careful. Austin is

1641
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 2: next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, The Monday

1642
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: Midday Quarterback wck wise.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Bike's Monday midday quarterback show. Root to

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Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1652
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Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, welcome man hour three of Tony Pike's Monday

1653
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 3: midday Quarterback. I'm not Tony Pike. I'm Austin Elmore, Tony

1654
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: on his way to Florence and Twin Peaks for the

1655
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: Tony and mo Football Show coming up this afternoon three

1656
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: to six. Right here on ESPN fifteen thirty, they will

1657
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: be dissecting another Bengals loss, a loss that brings them

1658
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: to four and ten on the season. And here to

1659
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 3: help me dissect the four and ten Cincinnati Bengals, his

1660
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: longtime friend of the show, one of the ogs, our

1661
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 3: guy from Bengals Talk from Sports Illustrated, from Cincinnati Bengals

1662
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 3: Talk on YouTube and all that other stuff that he does.

1663
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 3: His name is James Orpene and he joins us. Now, Hi, James,

1664
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: how are you.

1665
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm good.

1666
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think of something really edgy to say

1667
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 7: about Tony Pike's Monday midday mood Day Quarterback Day show.

1668
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 7: I think this is the Austin Elmore Show until three.

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 2: I appreciate Jabman, Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I'm

1670
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 2: glad that you're here.

1671
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: I think back to like Thanksgiving night, and like everything

1672
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 3: seemed to be so happy and so joyous, and it

1673
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 3: was like this moment where I felt like everybody in

1674
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 3: the organization kind of took a deep breath, and now

1675
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: we're here. How did this happen?

1676
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1677
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 7: Well, when I mean that Buffalo loss, I think Joe

1678
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 7: knew they had to win out and so that Buffalo

1679
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 7: loss essentially ended their season in his mind and from

1680
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 7: a playoff standpoint, and the whole reason he rehabed like

1681
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 7: a madman and did all the things that we've noted,

1682
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 7: and we've gotten more details as things have come out,

1683
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 7: and Diana Rasenior recording that he cut off his cast

1684
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 7: and everything like that. He did all of that because

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 7: he thought that Jake Browning and then after the Joe

1686
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 7: Flacco trade, that they would be able to hold it

1687
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 7: down enough for it to matter and it just didn't matter.

1688
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 7: I mean, he goes toe to toe with Josh Allen

1689
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 7: and is arguably and I would argue it is the

1690
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 7: better player for three quarters in Buffalo, his second game

1691
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 7: back from this super serious injury where he wasn't expected

1692
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 7: back yet, and there's no margin for error for him

1693
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 7: to make a mistake, or if you want to put

1694
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 7: it on Jamar, put it on Zach or whatever. But

1695
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 7: there's just no room for error for them to make

1696
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 7: a mistake. And so I think he probably beat himself

1697
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 7: up about that. I don't think he's pointing fingers. I

1698
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 7: think he's very much looking internally. And three straight years

1699
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 7: without the playoffs, I mean, this is you know, we're

1700
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 7: not talking about NCAA tournament, tournament for my Bearcats here.

1701
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 7: This is a big deal. You have Joe Burrow, you

1702
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 7: have Jamar Chase. This should not be the case.

1703
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 3: How much do you think whatever was weighing on his

1704
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 3: mind last week affected his performance this week?

1705
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 7: I think it affected it because it affected the whole team.

1706
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 7: And that's what's tough, is when you have your quarterback

1707
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 7: looking at things from a different light and not simply

1708
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 7: all right, we have to beat the Ravens and keep

1709
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 7: our three percent playoff chance alive, which is literally all

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01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 7: they had going into yesterday. And it's kind of ridiculous

1711
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 7: when you think about it, all the four and nine

1712
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 7: Bengals had a chance of the playoffs, like, well, that's ridiculous.

1713
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 7: It shouldn't be the case, but it was not anymore.

1714
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 7: So when he's thinking the way he is and is

1715
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 7: in that mental space, well, that does reflect and show

1716
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 7: up on the team. And I think early in that

1717
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 7: game you saw it. I mean, they should have been

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01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 7: up probably ten nothing, maybe fourteen nothing on the Ravens,

1719
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 7: and there were multiple opportunities, multiple chances. The defense obviously

1720
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 7: played well in the first three possessions of the game,

1721
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 7: where this offense left at least six points if you

1722
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 7: want to go bare minimum, but I would say ten

1723
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 7: ten points on the field. And it's because Joe how

1724
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,560
Speaker 7: to sync with Jamar, Jamar out to sink just a

1725
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 7: tad like things just a little bit off. And when

1726
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 7: those things happen, when you have those drops and Joe

1727
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 7: isn't playing his best, well, they can get away from

1728
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 7: you a little bit. And so yeah, I think that

1729
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 7: that did put a cloud over the team. Whether it

1730
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 7: was an intention or not, and whether anyone is willing

1731
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 7: to admit it or not, it's just you go out there,

1732
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 7: you watch how they played. I think it's pretty clear

1733
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 7: it had an impact.

1734
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 3: When it comes to Zach Taylor, it feels like every

1735
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 3: Bengals fan I meet says that the next step for

1736
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: this organization is to fire Zach Taylor. Do you think

1737
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: that would fix any of the issues. Do you expect

1738
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 3: the Bengals to seriously consider firing him over this last

1739
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 3: month of the season less than a month?

1740
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is something I actually just wrote for Bengals

1741
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 7: Talk dot Com. I did a video on it for

1742
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Bengals Talk on YouTube and a podcast on it.

1743
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 7: This is it's decision time. And in the decision isn't

1744
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 7: do you like Zach Taylor? Do you like Duke Tobin?

1745
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 7: Are you do you think they work hard? You know,

1746
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow's confident and these guys because they work really

1747
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 7: hard well, working hard to the bare minimum, right, Like

1748
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 7: we're talking about one of thirty two head coaching jobs,

1749
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,520
Speaker 7: but we're talking about one of thirty two GM slash

1750
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 7: pseudo GM jobs. Because he's never going to get that

1751
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 7: title because he doesn't handle the contract. That's Katie Blackburn

1752
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 7: and that's not changing Bengals fans for what it's worth. So,

1753
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 7: like the these are really exclusive jobs. And if this

1754
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 7: is supposed to be the golden era of Bengals football,

1755
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 7: and I would say that that's safe to say. When

1756
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 7: you have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase in their prime,

1757
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 7: considering how this decade started, you have to ask yourself,

1758
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 7: all right, are do you the right people that are

1759
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 7: going to lead this team to a super Bowl? To

1760
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 7: a super Bowl? Are they the best people you can

1761
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 7: get to be the head coach, to pick the player

1762
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 7: in the draft, to help decide what you do in

1763
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 7: free agency? And that's what Mike Brown has to decide,

1764
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 7: and that's who will decide it here, right, And so

1765
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 7: I think yesterday was a pretty damning loss. It doesn't

1766
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 7: mean that Zach is going to be fired, but if

1767
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 7: the door was mostly shut on it, I think it's

1768
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 7: a bit more open today than it was forty eight

1769
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 7: hours ago because of what we saw in a division

1770
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 7: rival matchup at home, a team you just beat a

1771
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,679
Speaker 7: few weeks ago, and now suddenly, what is it seventeen

1772
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 7: days later you lose to them twenty four to nothing,

1773
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 7: and you had the first shutout of the Joe Burrow era.

1774
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 7: They had a lot to play for yesterday and they

1775
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 7: didn't show up and they weren't buttoned up, and they

1776
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 7: didn't pay attention to details. And so it isn't just Zach.

1777
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 7: But I do think that Zach that seat is pretty

1778
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 7: warm right now. I'm sure all that snow that was

1779
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 7: on his chair has melted because of how warm.

1780
01:33:58,920 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: His seat is.

1781
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: Mentioned that the question needs to be are these the

1782
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 3: right people that can help you win a Super Bowl?

1783
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:10,520
Speaker 3: How much of the way that Joe Burrow performed yesterday

1784
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 3: and has I guess spoken to the media and just

1785
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 3: I guess the overall image and attitude of the quarterback.

1786
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 3: Do you think that plays into Mike Brown's decision making

1787
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 3: it all?

1788
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 7: It should? And here's why it should, because I think

1789
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 7: Joe isn't going to say fire Zach because Zach and

1790
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 7: Joe are tight, right, and so you talked to Joe

1791
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 7: about it. But it's Mike's job to decide whether or

1792
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 7: not Zach is best for Joe. And that's an important

1793
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 7: factor here because being light honestly, Joe wants to be

1794
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 7: like everybody wants to be liked, but everybody wants to

1795
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 7: win more and you've got to find the path to

1796
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 7: win it. And I do think it's reasonable, and it

1797
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 7: goes back to of the conversations that we had ahead

1798
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 7: of their Week three matchup against Minnesota, which was very

1799
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 7: very simple, is this offense, is this style? Is this

1800
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 7: everything conducive to maximizing what Joe Burrow is put does

1801
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 7: it put the Bengals in position to win the most games?

1802
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 7: And you need to be able to overcome a Joe

1803
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 7: Burrow injury for nine weeks and I'm not saying they'll

1804
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 7: eat one, but don't go one in eight, go four

1805
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 7: and five. And they were just awful, pathetic. And if

1806
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 7: they're that Joe Burrow centric, well understand that when your

1807
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 7: star players out, you need to be good enough to

1808
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 7: survive without it. And if your system isn't, then you

1809
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,759
Speaker 7: need to redo things like they didn't have a shot

1810
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 7: yesterday because Joe Burrow wasn't Joe Burrow. And really good teams,

1811
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 7: if their quarterback is a bit off, they can overcome that.

1812
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 7: And whatever changes they make, they need to be in

1813
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 7: position to do that to overcome it to where they

1814
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 7: are still in the game. It's not like the Ravens

1815
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 7: were insanely good yesterday. The Ravens were kind of black.

1816
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 7: It's just the Bengals were lifeless. And so how do

1817
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 7: you how do you overcome that when Joe Burrow is

1818
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 7: a tad off in moving forward? I think that's a

1819
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 7: huge part of the evaluation and how this Bengals team

1820
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 7: should be built moving forward.

1821
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 3: You mentioned that Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor are tight.

1822
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 3: Would firing Zach Taylor upset Joe Burrow even more?

1823
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:33,839
Speaker 7: Maybe it might, you know it might, and especially initially,

1824
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 7: but there are plenty of situations historically where that's exactly

1825
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 7: what that player needed. You know, I've seen a lot

1826
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 7: of a lot of cops, Carson Palmer, I've seen the

1827
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 7: the Matthew Stafford. What happened with Steph Curry when they

1828
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,799
Speaker 7: got rid of Mark Jackson? Did Steph Curry, after overcoming

1829
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 7: a bunch of ankle injuries suddenly just vault into another

1830
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 7: another stratosphere as a player? And I know it's not perfect.

1831
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 7: Do you want to go all the way back in

1832
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 7: the eighties, how upset was Michael Jordan when this Phil

1833
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 7: Jackson guy was telling him how this is actually how you're.

1834
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: Going to play.

1835
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 7: And so my point is, and the reason I go

1836
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 7: back to when evaluating Zach, maybe Zach is the right

1837
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 7: guy for the job, despite whatever everybody listening thinks, despite

1838
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 7: what you and me think. But that's what Mike Brown

1839
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 7: has to determine. And that's where I was at last

1840
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 7: year too when they were talking about lou N Arubo

1841
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 7: and all of these things. It's like back up, like

1842
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 7: before you start to look at all out Golden or

1843
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 7: the defense or are the main people that are going

1844
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 7: to be making these decisions Zach Tayry, Who's made a

1845
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 7: lot of decisions when it comes to this roster, who's here,

1846
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 7: who's not, who's playing, who's not? Streundy be here, Dukee

1847
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 7: Tobn same thing. Obviously, we know how bad they've been

1848
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 7: in the draft and how poor poorly they've addressed their

1849
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 7: needs and free agency in recent years. And so that's

1850
01:37:56,600 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 7: that's it. Regardless of Joe Burrow's feelings, you have to

1851
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 7: make the best decision for the football team, because here's

1852
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 7: the thing. He can like Zach Taylor atly once. If

1853
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 7: you keep losing, that's going to upset Joe Burrow far

1854
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 7: more than making a move in the front office around

1855
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 7: the coaching staff.

1856
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 2: Did the Bengals quit yesterday? Oh, I don't know.

1857
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 7: I don't know if they quit. I think I can

1858
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,839
Speaker 7: certainly see why people would feel that way. And that's

1859
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 7: what's tough here is when I think about this team

1860
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 7: now and when I'm having these conversations and thoughts about

1861
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 7: what they should do next. Should they make a move here,

1862
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 7: should they make a move there. If I'm Mike Brown,

1863
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 7: I really don't care about the final three weeks. I

1864
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 7: don't let any of this like they could beat Miami

1865
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 7: seventy to nothing, and I'm not sure it means anything

1866
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 7: when it comes to the ultimate question and how close

1867
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 7: you are or not to winning a suit going getting

1868
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 7: back to the stages that you were on a few

1869
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 7: years ago, and it feels like a lifetime ago at

1870
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 7: this point, and that's it. So to me, I wouldn't

1871
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 7: go as far as to say they'd quit, But if

1872
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 7: they show fight over the final three weeks, that isn't

1873
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 7: going to have a huge impact on me. And maybe

1874
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 7: some are going to say, well, that's stupid. It should.

1875
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 7: I don't think it should, because the past two years

1876
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 7: they've ended the year pretty strong, Joe Burrow goes down.

1877
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 7: They end twenty twenty three pretty strong overall and are

1878
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 7: competent with Jake Browning. Last year they win five straight,

1879
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 7: come just short of the playoffs. Did that bleed over?

1880
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 7: Did that carry over? Was there any reason for that?

1881
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 7: Did that show that they were well on their way

1882
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 7: to being a playoff and not the playoff contender of

1883
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 7: a championship contender? Again, the answer is no. This is

1884
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 7: the worst year of all of them, and so I'm

1885
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 7: not sure if they did or not quit wise, I

1886
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 7: just know I wouldn't let the final three weeks impact

1887
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 7: my evaluation of what they are and who they need

1888
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 7: to be.

1889
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 3: When it comes to that evaluation and that regression, what

1890
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 3: do you feel like is the biggest reason for the regression?

1891
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 7: And I don't know, I don't know. I think sometimes

1892
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 7: things and this would certainly be an argument, right is

1893
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,560
Speaker 7: things can just get stale, and that would be the

1894
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 7: Zach Taylor argument. I think the other element here, and

1895
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 7: it's a big one, is you just thought to get

1896
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 7: put winning ahead of everything else. And I would say

1897
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 7: this calendar year, I will just use this calendar year,

1898
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 7: whether it's the draft, whether it's free agency, you're talking

1899
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 7: about trade requests, you're talking about missed draft picks, and

1900
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 7: those guys might end up being good. I'm not harping

1901
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,679
Speaker 7: on the rookies, but you're putting them in positions where

1902
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 7: they have to be good right away. And that's a

1903
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 7: really tough position to be in. And so to do

1904
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 7: that and to rely on those guys to be plug

1905
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 7: and play starters and to not add in free agency

1906
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 7: like you should, and to expect to be not just

1907
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 7: playoff contenders, but really high end, a really high end contender,

1908
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 7: it's a it's a lot to ask, and I think

1909
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 7: that they've come up short. So if you want to

1910
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 7: say what they sailed out, I think they thought that

1911
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 7: the most of the free agency, and that kind of

1912
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 7: snowballed into the draft. They felt they needed afforce certain

1913
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 7: positions in the draft and that dictated things. You know

1914
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 7: how I felt going into Day two. And man, I

1915
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,719
Speaker 7: know they got dyin Fairchild, right, But that that strategy

1916
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 7: overalls looking pretty rough.

1917
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 3: As of right now. The Bengals have between sixty and

1918
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 3: seventy million dollars in cap space next season. Is that

1919
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,839
Speaker 3: enough to fix their problem?

1920
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 7: It is, absolutely. It is sixty to seventy million in casting. Look,

1921
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 7: the thing is is last year they could have gotten

1922
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 7: trade done along with Jamar c and they've also could

1923
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 7: have went and got a big, big signing of Milton Williams.

1924
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 7: Like they have plenty of cap, plenty of cash, plenty

1925
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 7: of everything. And that's that's the other element here that

1926
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 7: needs to change is they need to be willing to say,

1927
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 7: all right, this is the and I don't I don't

1928
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 7: know exactly what to call it, but this is supposed

1929
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 7: to be our golden era. We got to go in

1930
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 7: and if we have to go with the void deer here,

1931
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 7: if we have to move money around, our structure of

1932
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 7: bone is here like this for this player to get

1933
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 7: that player, We're going to do it because Joe Burrow

1934
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 7: is twenty nine years old, because Jamar Chase is twenty

1935
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 7: six years old in March, which is wild to say,

1936
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 7: like the time is now, not five years from now.

1937
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 7: And in this sustainable mindset that they've built and I

1938
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 7: know internally like that's what they've had. And if they

1939
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 7: called me, like anybody in the front office has called

1940
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 7: me right now, Mike Brown, Katie Truck, doesn't matter that

1941
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 7: they want to keep that window open, and you need

1942
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 7: to stop worrying about the future. Worry about right now

1943
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 7: because if they do win a Super Bowl Austin, all

1944
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 7: of this strap makes it worth it. But they're not

1945
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 7: close right now, and if they keep going the way

1946
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 7: they're they're just basically saying, hey, we're hoping to look

1947
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 7: into some January magic, and we know how hard it

1948
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 7: is to win in January. It's really really hard, even

1949
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 7: when you have the best quarterback in the game or

1950
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 7: one of the best quarterbacks in the game. So they

1951
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 7: have to figure out that part of it, the structure part,

1952
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 7: so they can maximize things, because they should addressed all

1953
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 7: three levels of their defense. They should bring back multiple

1954
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 7: offensive linemen that they're going to need or new offensive

1955
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,640
Speaker 7: linemen that they're going to need. Like there's things that

1956
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 7: they're going to need outside of the draft, and you

1957
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 7: can't just sign one or two external free agents. This

1958
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 7: isn't twenty seventeen, and it felt like twenty seventeen for

1959
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,520
Speaker 7: a large part of last offseason.

1960
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Yesterday, the Bengals did not clear the snow and ice

1961
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 3: off of the many seats inside pay Court Stadium. This

1962
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 3: has been talked about quite a bit, including former Bengals

1963
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,759
Speaker 3: running back Zach Moss, who said he's been telling people

1964
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 3: this is easily the worst franchise in sports. What was

1965
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 3: your reaction to that from Zack Moss boiled?

1966
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 7: First off, I saw it on X and I was like,

1967
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 7: is this Zach Moss? And it was? And it is

1968
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 7: And I don't know. I don't know what. I assume

1969
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 7: it has to do with something with his injury and

1970
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 7: money and all of those things, and how that went down,

1971
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 7: I don't know, but clearly he's upset with the Bengals,

1972
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 7: and I do think these perspectives do matter, and they

1973
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 7: matter because he's been with the Bills, he's been with

1974
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 7: the Colts, and so to have that outside perspective, even

1975
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 7: though it will be shot down. I haven't been to

1976
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 7: pay court today. I don't know exactly how it's going

1977
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 7: to go, but it will be shot down, right, And

1978
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 7: oh he's got an issue because of this, Well, that's fine.

1979
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 7: It is that. That's fine. And by the way, the

1980
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 7: clearing of the seats, yeah, it's they did probably the

1981
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 7: minimum to keep up with NFL rules and regulations, but

1982
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 7: it would have been nice to do. And I think

1983
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 7: that that's that's the mindset they need to be in

1984
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 7: as they build their football team. We don't need to

1985
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 7: get this extra piece, or we don't need to add

1986
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 7: this guy, or we could do that in the draft.

1987
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 17: But.

1988
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 7: We we we we lean towards the minimum. No, they

1989
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 7: need to go to the maximum level. And I think

1990
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 7: the seats thing, it's such a small thing, but it

1991
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 7: kind of shows how they approach things In a lot

1992
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 7: of times it's reaction area. All, fine, we'll sign Tea

1993
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,560
Speaker 7: because Joe Hart for T or you know, and it

1994
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 7: pushed for T for months and months and behind the

1995
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 7: scenes they did a bunch of things. In my goodness,

1996
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 7: I'm sure there's a book that can be written on

1997
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 7: what Joe Burrow, T Higgins and these guys did Jamar

1998
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 7: Chase to get T Higginson Like that shouldn't be the

1999
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:12,839
Speaker 7: case though, right, And so when it comes to the seats,

2000
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 7: is it a huge deal? I don't necessarily think so

2001
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 7: in a vacuum. When it comes to Zach Moss, is

2002
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 7: it a huge deal? I don't know. I don't have

2003
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 7: all the details, but you tie it all together, and

2004
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 7: it's why they drive people crazy. And honestly, I think

2005
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 7: most people that were there, you were there, right, I

2006
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 7: was there, all right, So I think most people that

2007
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 7: were there would trade snow covered seats and accept those

2008
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 7: snow covered seats all for the rest, for all of

2009
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six, if it meant. The Bengals went the

2010
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 7: extra mile this offseason to build a true Super Bowl

2011
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 7: contender around Joe Burrow. And so that's where I want

2012
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 7: them focused. I don't care about stadium leases or you

2013
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 7: know whatever else. I need them to focus on Lombardi.

2014
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 7: It should be written everywhere, not chat, physical, hungry, accountable,

2015
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 7: I don't care. Needs to be Lombardi's all over. And

2016
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 7: that's the goal, and that's it. And if you're not

2017
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 7: doing something to get that, you need to get the

2018
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 7: hell out of the building. That really should be the

2019
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 7: culture in the mindset. And I'm sure they say it

2020
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 7: would be that would be it, but man, it's been

2021
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 7: sixty years now, you got to get one.

2022
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 3: I appreciate your physicality, your hunger, your accountability, and your

2023
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 3: toughness in being a guest on this show today, James Rapine,

2024
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 3: thank you so much.

2025
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 7: Would you say that Bengals are tough? No, all right,

2026
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 7: I feel that rough. I appreciate you having me Austin

2027
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:48,879
Speaker 7: let's talk soon.

2028
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 2: All right, buddy.

2029
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 3: That is James Rapine, Bengals Talk Sports Illustrated to say

2030
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Bengals Talk on YouTube. I just have a hard time

2031
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 3: feeling like, how did we get from eighteen days.

2032
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: Ago to where we are now? What changed?

2033
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 3: This is Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty.

2034
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 4: Hey, it's Maagger don't know show like the Bengals did yesterday. Instead,

2035
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 4: come to Twin Peaks in Florence for the Tony and

2036
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 4: Mo Football Show, where I will personally clean off your seat.

2037
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 4: The fun begins at three to zero five on ESPN

2038
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 4: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Whether you're tail getting in

2039
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: the pup tent.

2040
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 3: Tony Pike's Monday Midday Quarterback, I'm Austin Elmore. Rough day

2041
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 3: for the Bengals quarterback yesterday Joe Burrow one of his

2042
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 3: worst performances in his career as a Bengal, really in

2043
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 3: his football career altogether. He was twenty five of thirty

2044
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 3: nine two hundred and twenty five yards, no touchdowns through

2045
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 3: two picks. Was sacked three times, including a brutal sack

2046
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 3: on the Bengals opening drive that knocked him out of

2047
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 3: field goal range. Forcing them to punt. Bengals didn't score

2048
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 3: at all yesterday. It was the first time that a

2049
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow started game by the Bengals has resulted in

2050
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 3: a shutout. First time Burrow has been shut out in

2051
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 3: the game he started since twenty eighteen, when he was

2052
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 3: the quarterback of LSU in his first year with the Tigers.

2053
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 3: Just a brutal, miserable day for those who were at

2054
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 3: the game, for those who played in the game, and

2055
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 3: for just about anybody who watched the game. Here is

2056
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 3: the Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. This is about ninety seconds

2057
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:39,799
Speaker 3: of him conversing with the media following the Bengals shutout

2058
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: loss to Baltimore.

2059
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 31: I think this is one of the worst games that

2060
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 31: I've played. You know, I'm honest with myself and my play,

2061
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 31: and I hold myself to high standard, and today didn't

2062
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 31: come close.

2063
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 7: You know, bad football, bad football teams.

2064
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 2: Do losing things.

2065
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 31: And you know, if you're wanting to compete for championships

2066
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 31: and getting playoffs, number one, your quarterback has to play

2067
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,200
Speaker 31: better than I did today.

2068
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 16: Do you still have confidence in the people in the

2069
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 16: front office and the coaching staff that they can get

2070
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 16: this roster in a place and this team in a

2071
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 16: place where that wouldn't happen next year.

2072
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 14: A lot of confidence.

2073
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 31: Why, because I don't know how hard people work at it.

2074
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 14: We got the right people.

2075
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 31: It starts the players playing better and today with me.

2076
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 32: From the outside, Yet a lot of fans are going

2077
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,440
Speaker 32: to just real They're going to say that these organizations

2078
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 32: top to bottom front office doesn't have enough people or

2079
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 32: the right people in place.

2080
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 2: You honestly feel that they do.

2081
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 31: And why this is a team effort. You know, at

2082
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 31: the end of the day, players got to play better

2083
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 31: on the field today. Today was me, I gotta be better.

2084
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: What do you feel like you could have known better today?

2085
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: Every team's record is headed in the wrong direction.

2086
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 32: Do you think your play is slipping down the slope

2087
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 32: in the wrong direction over the last couple of years.

2088
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 31: No, I feel very and how I played obviously today.

2089
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 31: In my opinion as an outlier, I think I've been

2090
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 31: consistently great for years and years and years.

2091
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 2: I agree with him.

2092
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 3: I think he's been consistently great for quite a while,

2093
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 3: and last year he should have been the MVP, but

2094
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 3: because the defense was so bad, they weren't able to

2095
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 3: win as many games as they should have. They were

2096
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 3: robbed of a playoff appearance because of their bad defense.

2097
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:28,879
Speaker 3: He was robbed likely of an NFL MVP award because

2098
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 3: of that bad defense. And I do think that yesterday

2099
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,799
Speaker 3: was an outlier, especially when you rewind a week to Buffalo.

2100
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 3: He was great for all but two pass attempts really

2101
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 3: against the Buffalo Bills in a game that the Bengals

2102
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 3: probably should have won as well. And so I think

2103
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 3: when all of this kind of happens all at the

2104
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 3: same time, where you go through all this rehab and

2105
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 3: all this stuff to get back, and you come back

2106
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 3: and you find a way to win on Thanksgiving night,

2107
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 3: and then you lose the way that you did against Buffalo,

2108
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 3: and then a comedy of errors yesterday in the freezing

2109
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 3: cold snowball no pun intended into one of the worst

2110
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 3: performances by that team in that stadium and by that

2111
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 3: player that there have ever been. And I think postgame

2112
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 3: and maybe during the game, it all kind of hits

2113
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 3: you at the same time. But I do think it's

2114
01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 3: notable that Zach says he does have faith in the

2115
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,719
Speaker 3: organization and that people work hard. But to James's point,

2116
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 3: working hard is the bare minimum. That is the absolute,

2117
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 3: like minimal thing you can do. Of course, you're supposed

2118
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 3: to work hard. This is the National Football League. When

2119
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 3: pressed on it about do you believe that there are

2120
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:48,839
Speaker 3: the right people and enough people, Joe did not directly

2121
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 3: answer that question. He said, it's a team game, it's

2122
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 3: a team effort. Talked more about yesterday's game. I think

2123
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot going on mentally for the Bengals quarterbacks,

2124
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 3: some of it not football related, some of it football related.

2125
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 3: And I think losing makes everything harder. Losing that game

2126
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 3: against Buffalo the way that they did made everything harder.

2127
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 3: And then not performing your best and getting embarrassed at

2128
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 3: home to a division opponent that you just whooped a

2129
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago makes everything harder. The question ultimately becomes,

2130
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 3: what do the Bengals do to avoid this from happening again?

2131
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 3: What is the next step? Because anytime you have a

2132
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 3: player the caliber of Joe Burrow and you missed the playoffs,

2133
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 3: whether he's injured or not, that is unacceptable. I talk

2134
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 3: often about the aggressive pursuit of a championship this offseason.

2135
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 3: While I can understand the plan, it was not enough,

2136
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 3: and it certainly showed that it was not enough based

2137
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 3: off the way that those teams and those players performed.

2138
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 2: In the past.

2139
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: You've scapedgoated injuries, and last year you escape go to

2140
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator. And while I think there is much

2141
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 3: to be excited about with Miles Murphy and with DJ

2142
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 3: Turner and maybe to an extent, Joseph O sigh, but

2143
01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:29,799
Speaker 3: he's going to be a free agent. Overall, I don't

2144
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 3: know who else or what else you can scapegoat. And

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01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 3: I can already see some people blaming Joe Burrow for

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01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 3: all of this. And while he certainly does not get

2147
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 3: a pass on yesterday's game, there were mental mistakes, there

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01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 3: was fundamental issues. There were bad throws, the protections weren't set,

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Speaker 3: like all the stuff that he never does wrong, he

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 3: did wrong. He doesn't get a pass for yesterday. But

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 3: he is far from the biggest problem with this organization.

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01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 3: And when you know, I had the conversation with Tony

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01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 3: earlier about I don't feel like maybe they're as far

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01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,040
Speaker 3: away as everybody else feels. I have an exception to that.

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 3: Like when you look at like the Bear, you know

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01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 3: the basics of the roster and the amount of money

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01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 3: that they have to spend. I look at that, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think, Okay, they're so far away here. I

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 3: think money well spent in a good draft class, in

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 3: the third play schedule, and they're right back in the

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01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 3: conversation so long as Burrow is healthy. I don't think

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01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 3: that's an outrageous claim. But what feels like they're so

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01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 3: far away is the organizational commitment to be that the

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01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 3: organizational commitment to say, Okay, we are gonna surround our

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Speaker 3: guy with all the best. We're gonna go and get

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01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 3: the best available coach. We're gonna go and get the

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01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 3: best available defensive coordinator. We're gonna make an aggressive trade

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Speaker 3: in the draft. We're gonna give a little bit more

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01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 3: money in free agency to get this player. Here is

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01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 3: the organizational commitment behind the quarterback there to get them

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01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 3: to where they want to be.

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01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: That's my question.

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01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 3: I have openly defended them several times because it has

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01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 3: made since and I have seen the vision and at

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01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 3: times it has worked. This time it isn't. For the

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01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 3: last two years it hasn't. So now how do you pivot?

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01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 3: How do you change to say, Okay, this didn't work,

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: here's how we're going to fix it. I've referenced this before,

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01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 3: but I think back to a month or so ago

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01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 3: when Duke Tobin was in the crosshairs and we asked

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01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 3: Moegger Mo, what would be the question you'd ask Duke Tobin?

2182
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 3: And Mo said, why can't you fix this? That should

2183
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 3: be the question aimed at every single person in this organization.

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01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow yesterday, why couldn't you fix that? Zach Taylor?

2185
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 3: Why can't you fix this? Duke Tobin, why can't you

2186
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,080
Speaker 3: fix this? Katie Troy, Mike, why can't you fix this?

2187
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 3: What's the plan to fix it? And also, if you

2188
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 3: fire Zach Taylor? I don't know. And this is not

2189
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 3: in defensive Zach, because if you want to fire him,

2190
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I have no problem with it.

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01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 3: The problem I have is who's the guy that gets

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01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 3: you excited. Who's the person who's going to look at

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Speaker 3: this organization, which is widely regarded in the National Football

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01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 3: League and among many nor National Football League circles as

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01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 3: the worst in the NFL. Who's going to look at

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01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 3: it and say, yeah, Joe Burrow is worth it. I'll

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01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 3: do that. I'll take less money, I'll coach with one

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01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 3: hand tied behind my back. I'll deal with all the

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 3: organizational malpractice behind me, and I'll go and be the

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 3: head coach of the Bengals. Are you ever going to

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Speaker 3: be able to get the best available candidate based off

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01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 3: the structure of the organization. I don't know that you are,

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01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 3: and that's what to me makes it feel so far away.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 3: I hate being in that position. Take a break, we'll

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Speaker 3: come back. ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: I'm Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 3: I left tay Course Stadium yesterday when it was seventeen

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Speaker 3: to nothing after the Bengals went scoreless on their opening

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01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 3: drive of the second half. Baltimore came down the field

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01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 3: and to kick the field goal to go up three possessions.

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Speaker 2: I left.

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01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 3: I was done, I was over it. I couldn't feel

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01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 3: my toes. I was ready to move on with my day.

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01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 3: So by the time I get home, they're kind of

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01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 3: playing out the string. I pulled into my apartment as

2217
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow through the pick six to the Ravens, and

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01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm watching the end of the game at home and

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01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 3: they're going to Adidi Kinkawala the sideline reporter as Spirodd's

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01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 3: and Adam Rchletta are calling the game and they've done

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01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 3: a lot of Bengals games this year, God bless them.

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01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 3: And they're having a conversation about what much of the

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01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:56,160
Speaker 3: conversation leading into the week was about, which is Joe

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01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 3: Burrow and loving football and Cincinnati in the whole nine yards.

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 3: And Joe thankfully cleared the air after the game and said,

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01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with about Cincinnati. It's about me,

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01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 3: It's about my performance and all that. But I thought

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01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 3: it was noteworthy because those guys that production crew, they

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 3: have they sit down interview with Joe Burrow. That doesn't

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01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 3: happen very often. And Addi kink kink Abala made a

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01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 3: point to say that Joe Burrow told them that he

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 3: says he feels like his voice is heard, that he's

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01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 3: not afraid to offer strong opinions, that he has strong

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 3: opinions about players who are on the team and players

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01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 3: who are not on the team, and coaches in the

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01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 3: whole nine yards. And I think it's noteworthy to say

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01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:47,440
Speaker 3: that Burrow was not afraid to share with the CBS

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01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 3: team that he feels like his voice is heard and

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01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 3: it's not an issue of that, and that he gets

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Speaker 3: a chance to speak and share his opinions, and he's

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01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 3: not afraid to be strong with his opinions when it

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Speaker 3: comes to ownership in the organization. So I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you know anybody else heard that. I'm sure many

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02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,760
Speaker 3: people did, but I think in terms of context with

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Speaker 3: all that's been going on over the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: I think that's an important part of this entire conversation.

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Speaker 3: When we take it, we're going to take a break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll talk to Tony Pike and

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Speaker 3: Moe Egger. They got the Tony and Mo Football Show

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Speaker 3: from Twin Peaks in Florence this afternoon. We'll check in

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Speaker 3: with them with Quick Hits next right here on the

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Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 15: Thirty, WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station g Guaranteed Human ESPN

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Speaker 15: fifteen thirty I Heard radio.

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Speaker 4: From the schmid Heating Temp Star Weather Center. Here's your forecast.

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by Jake Sweeney Automotive, serving the

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Speaker 2: tri State for over one hundred years.

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Speaker 4: It's right now.

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Speaker 6: It's time for quick Hits on Tony Pikes. Since the

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Speaker 6: three sixty.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the Monday Midday quarterback, the Tony Pikes

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Speaker 3: Monday mid Day Quarterback. And we go now to Twin

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Speaker 3: Peaks in Florence ahead of the Tony and Mo Football

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Speaker 3: show to uh talk to Tony and Mo for quick hits,

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Speaker 3: and the fellows join us. Now, what's up boys? How

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Speaker 3: are we doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing wonderful. Here's what I want to know. Uh

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Speaker 4: huh about you, Austin? How did you fill the time

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Speaker 4: usually spend on Mondays going on the playoff simulator?

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Speaker 3: I start, Tony and I joked about this. I started

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Speaker 3: on draft stuff. That is not a joke.

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Speaker 2: I start.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do mock drafts, but I started reading about

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Speaker 3: you know, what do the Giants want to do? What

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Speaker 3: do the Raiders want to do? What are some of

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Speaker 3: these guys? I went full fledge into draft.

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Speaker 4: I did not do that.

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Speaker 2: Oh what did you do?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're a big playoff simulator.

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Speaker 4: I like to playoff simulator. Last week it was too

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Speaker 4: cut and dry for me to really spend much time

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Speaker 4: on it. But uh, I didn't do any draft stuff.

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Speaker 2: You mean you did it last week because there were

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Speaker 2: still a chance they could make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I didn't do it last week.

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Speaker 2: But they could have made the playoffs if they won yesterday, well.

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Speaker 4: They could have. Possibly they got have kept their playoff

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Speaker 4: hopes alive. What I did is that stuff. By the way,

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Speaker 4: we watched, I ran to Meyer and I picked up

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Speaker 4: some cleaning supplies because today we start the brand new

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Speaker 4: Tony and Mo Football Show. Clean seat guarantee.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Where if you come to Twin Peaks in Florence between

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Speaker 4: three and six today, Tony Tony and I Tony or

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Speaker 4: I will maybe both will personally clean off your seat

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Speaker 4: for you. Yes, so, I've got some Clorox wipes, I've

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Speaker 4: got some pledge. Not sure if that's good on leather

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02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 4: seats or really I'm not even sure what material these

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Speaker 4: seats are. But if you come to Twin Peaks you

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Speaker 4: can request either one of us, even Mike Mills, our engineer.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we will personally clean off your seat for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Meso is thrilled and he'll be there any moment.

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Speaker 3: Uh what do you actually make of this whole seat

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Speaker 3: cleaning thing? And I saw your tweet, Moe, I feel

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02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 3: like it's a little bit overblown, but it's like, you

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Speaker 3: couldn't just you know, nobody really thought to do that,

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Speaker 3: and the reaction to.

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Speaker 2: It, it wasn't like it's surprised anymore. People know the forecast. Now,

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Speaker 2: they knew the snow was coming. They did the bare minimum. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was my takeaway.

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Speaker 4: Do you know why people like going to Jeff Ruby's

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02:03:13,360 --> 02:03:18,600
Speaker 4: restaurants the experience because when you go there, it doesn't

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02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 4: matter if you're a famous athlete or just a schlep

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Speaker 4: who's put some dollars together to be to be able

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Speaker 4: to go buy a nice steak. They treat you like

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Speaker 4: a king. Now the bare minimum is show up, put

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Speaker 4: a piece of meat in front of you. Yeah, give

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Speaker 4: you the bill when you go there, Like they they

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Speaker 4: go above and beyond to ensure your comfort. The Bengals

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Speaker 4: chose not to do that yesterday. Now you may say, well,

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Speaker 4: all they had to do was clear out the aisles

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Speaker 4: and everybody was safe, and that's on one level, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's safety was compromised, but they made

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Speaker 4: the choice to not take the extra step to best

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Speaker 4: ensure people's comfort. Now, I fully believe this, and I

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Speaker 4: put this on Twitter. If the Bengals were ten and

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Speaker 4: three going into yesterday's game. Nobody would care. Sure, I

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Speaker 4: mean nobody would care. So this is part of a

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Speaker 4: This is a one of the byproducts of losing. The

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Speaker 4: Reds the first time they had a three to two

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Speaker 4: one night, miscalculated how many people would show up and

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02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 4: they ran out of twelve ounce peers. Not great, but like, okay,

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Speaker 4: it was their first time. But because the team was

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02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 4: off to a three and twenty two start during the

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Speaker 4: middle of three to two one night, everybody wailed away.

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Speaker 4: This is what comes with losing. But I think it's

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Speaker 4: fair to say the Bengals were probably compliant with what

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Speaker 4: they were supposed to do. They had a chance. You

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Speaker 4: have a choice in life sometimes to go above and beyond.

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Speaker 4: If you run a business, you can go above and

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Speaker 4: beyond to ensure people's comfort. Bengals chose not to do that.

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Speaker 3: How worried are you about Joe Burrow, his mentality and

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Speaker 3: his relationship with the organization.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried that this team is not going to win

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Speaker 4: a championship. And if that's the case, the rest of

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02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 4: the stuff will take care of itself. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think that's the best and most fair way to put it.

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Speaker 4: I worry about whether the Bengals can capitalize on having

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, and if they can't, there's going to be

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Speaker 4: fallout from it, whether it's people losing their jobs. The

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Speaker 4: Bengals have a long and storied history of players deciding

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be here anymore. Why do we

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Speaker 4: think Joe would be exempt from that.

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Speaker 2: It also feels oddly when you just put the whole

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Speaker 2: week together. Wednesday felt calculated, Wednesday felt off. It was

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02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 2: certainly the most off. I remember watching Joe Burrow play

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Speaker 2: in a Bengal uniform yesterday and certainly didn't have a

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02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 2: resounding sentiment from Jamar Chase talking about Joe Burrow after

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Speaker 2: the game. I think when those three things, if you

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02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 2: view them individually, just say okay, one off. When all

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02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 2: those things happen in a span of just four or

2365
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 2: five days on top of each other, I think you

2366
02:05:55,360 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 2: legitimately have to be a little bit concerned about where

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Speaker 2: this is going and what's happening behind the doors.

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Speaker 4: From today, the Bengals are in first place, we won't

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02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 4: be talking about this. Winning takes care of all this.

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Speaker 4: With losing with this franchise and many others, there comes

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Speaker 4: discontent like I don't think you have to go overboard

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Speaker 4: and assume that Joe Burrow is gonna demand and trade

2373
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Speaker 4: this offseason. I don't think you have to do that.

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02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 4: I also think you're being painfully naive. If oh, this

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Speaker 4: is fine, no big deal, Joe. I'm sure Joe's happy

2376
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Speaker 4: as hell. Hey, this is just manufactured. It's not manufactured,

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02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 4: it's it's a byproduct of losing and Joe's off field

2378
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 4: demeanor on Wednesday of last week and his on field

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Speaker 4: body language yesterday. Like, so, winning takes care of everything,

2380
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 4: they say. Right, If the Bengals are in first place

2381
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 4: one year from today and we're really going to the

2382
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Speaker 4: playoff simulator and figuring out their odds of getting like

2383
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,880
Speaker 4: the one seed and stuff like that, ain't nobody's gonna

2384
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 4: be talking about Joe Burrow's future where he's gonna go.

2385
02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 4: In fact, the only thing we might be talking about

2386
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 4: is does he i a contract extension here? If the

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02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 4: losing continues. If a year from now the Bengals are

2388
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 4: eliminated in a division where one team is seven and

2389
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Speaker 4: seven and the other is seven and six, guess what

2390
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 4: we're probably gonna be doing even more wondering about Joe

2391
02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 4: Burrow and other things. So if you want this to

2392
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 4: go away, then the Bengals need to start winning more.

2393
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 4: Until that happens, this isn't gonna go away.

2394
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Speaker 3: What did you make of Philip Rivers yesterday?

2395
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Speaker 4: It was fun. I wonder how it feels today.

2396
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:34,480
Speaker 2: I wonder how I feel of that same. I mean,

2397
02:07:34,520 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 2: they pulled a forty four year old dude off the

2398
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Speaker 2: street and one started him in Seattle, and they still

2399
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Speaker 2: scored more points than the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I when they were driving, I had the tweet

2401
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Speaker 4: ready to go, and it was. It was something to

2402
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 4: the effect of, like, if you would have told me

2403
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,839
Speaker 4: a week ago Philip Rivers would be winning a football

2404
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 4: game on the road and Joe Burrow would be shut

2405
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 4: out on the same day, I would have lost a

2406
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:58,200
Speaker 4: lot of damn money. I thought it was fun. I

2407
02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:59,800
Speaker 4: thought it was cool. I thought the story of that

2408
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 4: was that the Seahawks let the Colts keep it close.

2409
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 4: But it you know, I think there are folks who

2410
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 4: maybe don't follow the NFL very closely, who don't realize

2411
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers hadn't played a snap in the NFL since

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02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty This wasn't just an old dude who was

2413
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 4: like backing up and got cut in camp, or you know,

2414
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,880
Speaker 4: was in the league last year. It was forever ago

2415
02:08:21,960 --> 02:08:23,880
Speaker 4: since he played the fact that he was up to

2416
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 4: speed to play and play like he played like a

2417
02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 4: backup quarterback, right. I mean he made simple throws, a

2418
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 4: lot of checkdowns, nothing too complex, But I thought it

2419
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:35,360
Speaker 4: was I thought it was a fun story in the

2420
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Speaker 4: middle of what was a really rough week for the

2421
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Speaker 4: NFL because of stars getting injured and things like that.

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Speaker 3: How much time on your show today will be devoted

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Speaker 3: to the Bearcat basketball program?

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Speaker 2: Cool?

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Speaker 4: Richard Patino's gonna call in it five oh five?

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02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow?

2427
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,720
Speaker 4: How about that our college basketball? At our college basketball

2428
02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:57,839
Speaker 4: detour this week, I was asked, Hey, he can't do Tuesday.

2429
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Speaker 4: They have a game on Wednesday. Weould you like to

2430
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 4: have Richard on and I said, yes, they win, we'll

2431
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:06,240
Speaker 4: spend some time on the Bearcats. The game on Saturday, Tony,

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Speaker 4: I felt at halftime was doomed. They had an eleven

2433
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Speaker 4: point lead with about seven and a half minutes to

2434
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Speaker 4: go and then scored four more points the rest of

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Speaker 4: the way.

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Speaker 2: I felt up eleven like they weren't going to win

2437
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 2: the game. That's a terrible feeling. When they went down

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Speaker 2: four in the second half, I felt like they were

2439
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 2: going to lose the game. Austin made mentioned to this

2440
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Speaker 2: before I left to come here. If you look at

2441
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 2: that three plus minute video of him in the hallway

2442
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Speaker 2: west ant of the game, West Midler, it looks like

2443
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,960
Speaker 2: a defeated man, and it looks like a team that

2444
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 2: is slowly starting to roll over on him. And the

2445
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Speaker 2: Big twelve is really good.

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Speaker 4: I put this on social media and I said to

2447
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Speaker 4: you yesterday, Arizona's performance in Birmingham against Alabama on Saturday,

2448
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Speaker 4: that's the best I've seen a college basketball team play

2449
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Speaker 4: this year. Yep, Clemson and BYU played together, the most

2450
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 4: high end college basketball game I've watched this year year.

2451
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Speaker 4: You see he plays both those all three of those teams,

2452
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Speaker 4: all three of them including Clemson. This Sunday, it's it's

2453
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 4: not going well Loston. You know what, I get to

2454
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:17,600
Speaker 4: know what carrying the banner the NBA Cup, Tomorrow, Knicks Burst,

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Speaker 4: Nick

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