1 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: You are listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. Good morning, Welcome, welcome, welcome. 2 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: It is mid April, late April, late April. I guess 3 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: it's gotten to be I'm here with Paul Calls are 4 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: a cohort at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden in Zoo. 5 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: Good morning, garden America. 6 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: How you doing today, Paul. I'm doing well. Thanks yours, 7 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. I'm doing all right. We've got 8 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: a really good show, I think for people we're looking. 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: At seven o'clock we're going to talk to Matt Bizell 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: from Churchill Downs one week ahead of the derby. He 11 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: has agreed to be here with us and he's going 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to talk about everything involved in getting that place absolutely 13 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: perfect for the fastest two minutes in sports, Polish, Polish, 14 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: a lot of work leading to a specific point in time, 15 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: and you're dealing with plants, weather, early weather, and it's 16 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: going to be very interesting. You're going to like to 17 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: hear more about that and some of the background behind 18 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: the horses and just the history of the track and 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: things like that. So that'll be a lot of fun. 20 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: And at eight o'clock we have Kelly Norris coming on. 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: He is a famed writer, speaker, horticulturist, designer, and an 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: all around good guy. He's big in a new naturalist 23 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: or new Naturalism movement, so very perennial, heavy landscapes with 24 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a lot of matrix plantings, lots of different things mixed together, 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: so that should be pretty interesting. 26 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: One of the smartest guys I know of horticulture these 27 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: days and articulate. 28 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, his vocabulary will knock your side. 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: It always come away with a new list of words, a. 30 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: New list of words, and feeling like my god, why 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: do why do I even try? 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Our number is 41 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty two five eighty two fifty five Paul. 42 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Every every show begins with the national days of Okay, 43 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm going to continue this too much longer. 44 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's greater bad. Maybe callers, maybe 45 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: listeners can opine. But we're nearing the end of the 46 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: month of April, and April was the month of landscape architecture. 47 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: It's pecan month, straw hat month. I can see you 48 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: in a straw hat. 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: I like a straw hat. I need to wear one 50 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: of these days. Yeah, bigger brims, yes, yes, yes, sun 51 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: protection exactly, glare plt protection, Lawn and Garden month, Keep 52 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: America Beautiful month, and in the process National Native Plant Month, 53 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Nancy Lynz, we both know a big proponent of native 54 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: plants is trying to get this through Congress. So if 55 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: you can go visit Nativeplant Month dot org, which is 56 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: a great website, by the way, but if you go 57 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: to visit that, you can add your support to that motion. 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: Fourth week of April is National Princess Week. So if 59 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: you know a princess, see come out, let them know 60 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: that how much you appreciate them. Preservation Week, Save our history, 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: that's always important. And Sky Awareness Week is that about 62 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: dark skies. 63 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: It didn't really say it just said sky awareness. So 64 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, with weather, you want to be aware of 65 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: the sky all the time. I think we just passed 66 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: the meteor shower, the which whatever is. Every time they 67 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: say there's those things are going on, I go outside 68 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: and stand there looking up. I don't see a darn thing. 69 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Patients. That requires a lot of patience. 70 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Patients. Yeah, Today, Saturday, April twenty fifth, it's Hug a 71 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: plumber Day. 72 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: Without whom exactly, without whom we would have no reliable irrigation. 73 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: That's important. Yep. And my disposal just crapped out this 74 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: week and I needed a or I didn't hug them, 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: but they were good guys that came out fixed the problem. 76 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: They might have appreciated it, Yeah, apparently, or they may 77 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: not have. Yeah. National DNA Day, National Telephone Day, National 78 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Zucchini Bread Day. 79 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: Shout out to you zucchini movers and bakers. 80 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that just goes right back to the problem 81 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm having with a lot of these national days of 82 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: it happens with disturbing recurrence that the National Bakery Alliance 83 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: or some underground bakery coalition is getting all kinds of 84 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: bakery items in the national days of like three four 85 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: times a week. It's it's I am perfectly okay with that. 86 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm not I feel like that there's something dark going 87 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: on there. Baked goods. What could be dark about that? 88 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 1: Unless it's burned or double chocolate whatever. I like big goods. 89 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? I like bake goods just like 90 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: everybody else. I just am appalled, appalled, Paul at the 91 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: dominance of the bakery industry over all the National DASA. 92 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: But well, I think there could be much worse than 93 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: that could go on. 94 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Now, this is a cool one. Today is National Dueling 95 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: Dinosaurs Day. And I know you did a little bit 96 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: of a deep dive on this. 97 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: I got real fascinated by the fact that, well, I mean, 98 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: it's interesting you got two fossils laying side by side 99 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: that look like they're dueling triceratops and that they're calling 100 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 2: a nano taranus. 101 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess there's some yeah going on about that. 102 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: But anyway, and these were found in two thousand and 103 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: six in Montana. These two, yeah, perfectly full skeletal fossil 104 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: remains of two dinosaurs that were fighting when they or 105 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: so it appeared. 106 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, something anyway, that the Hell Creek formation. This 107 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: is sixty seven million years ago, and I was kind 108 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: of wondering, well, what plants were around because the tritterra triceratops, 109 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: that's a there's there were herbivores. 110 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, there probably were no plants because you know what 111 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: deer can do to a garden. Can't you imagine what 112 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: dinosaurs would do. 113 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: That would have been wowed through quite a lot of stuff. No, No, 114 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: there were lots of plants. The magnolias were already around, one. 115 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Of the first flowering plants. Very primitive. 116 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Yes, there was some species that looks like our dogwoods 117 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: kind of apparently corner film newberry eye. That's an extinct 118 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: plant species. Yeah, genus in fact, so we dig it 119 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: up in the permafrost and bring it back to the Yeah, littlumbo, 120 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: the water lotus, those. 121 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Were kid Yeah, that has a primitive look to it. 122 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I get that. Yeah, I know water lilies were primitive too. 123 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: And there was a ginko, of course, but not the 124 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: same species we know today. Ginko adiantides, again an extinct species, 125 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: but that us is still around. So something in the 126 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: fossil record that. 127 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I have read that the genus Ginko goes back possibly 128 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: as far as four hundred million years. Yikes. That's something, 129 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, that's why they don't have any pestive 130 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: disease problems. They've outlived. 131 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: We've seen this before. Try something harder. 132 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just. 133 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: A fascinating thing to think about. You know, what plants 134 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: were around at that time, and then they were a 135 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: surprising number of plants. 136 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I've always found that to be a fascinating subject, 137 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: these old plants. But moving on, moving on, Sunday, April 138 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: twenty six, help a horse day and that'll work out. 139 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean we can talk about that with Matt mac 140 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: and go into that. Yeah, he can go deep into 141 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: that Richter scale day. How about that one? 142 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: You know he didn't die, the guy they named it after. 143 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: He didn't die till the mid eighties, early eighties. 144 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 145 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: Wow, I thought it had been around longer than that. 146 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: You would think, here we go again, Pretzel Day bakery, 147 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: good item again. 148 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm all in, give me some beer, cheese and let's go. 149 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Let's go celebrate Trails Day. Sense of smell day? Where 150 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: would we be? You know, every now and then you 151 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: meet somebody that says I can't smell, and I can't imagine. 152 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: I can't either, you know, all things being equal, Whenever 153 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: I have a choice between plants, I'll pick the fragrance. 154 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: The fragrant one. Of course, it just adds that extra 155 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: element of fantasticness. Yeah. Absolutely, Monday Devil Dog Day again. Okay, 156 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: so I thought that, wow, what it might be about 157 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: a dog? Like? 158 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: The name sounds terrible. 159 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: It does sound terrible, but yet it's another big good Yeah. 160 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: I read the description that sounds delicious. 161 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: A cream filling between layers of Devil's food scake. It's 162 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: also National Gummy Bear Day Prime Rib Day, and I 163 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: think I am going to celebrate that as it deserves 164 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: because prime rib is about the finest kind of beef. 165 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm a New York strip person. Really. Yeah, I like 166 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: those too, But I like the fact that you and 167 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: you could have chosen differently. You chose to put devil 168 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Dog before prim. 169 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, I just like typing it right off the list, 170 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: so it just does not reflect my own priorities. 171 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: Dess it before dinner. 172 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. I see where you're 173 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: going there. It's also Babe Ruth Day. How about that one? Tuesday, 174 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: National Great Poetry Reading Day, so read some poetry. Superhero Day, 175 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Blueberry Pie Day, that Lobby that. 176 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: My favorite, but still a good one. 177 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: And I you know, I will never turn it away. 178 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: And then Wednesday, April twenty ninth Shrimp Scampy Day, Zipper Day, 179 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Zipper Day, Guide Dog Day, and Peace Rose Day. And 180 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go into this real fast. In the thirties, 181 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: when war was coming down on World War or on Europe, 182 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: in France, a person Francis Malan developed the piece Rose. 183 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: He saw the war coming and he sent pieces of 184 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: this rose to Germany, Turkey, and the United States, also Italy, 185 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: and I think the only ones that really survived were 186 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: the ones that went to the United States. After the war. 187 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: This was named the Piece Rose and sent throughout the 188 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: world and went into the trade and became quite popular 189 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: because it's not only reflective of this great story, but 190 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: also it's a very good rose. So we're running up 191 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: on a break, so we'll just fly through the rest. 192 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Honesty Day, National Honesty Day on Thursday, Oatmeal Cookie Day, 193 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: Stop Food Waste Day, Bugs Bunny Day, God Love Bugs, 194 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Bunny Friday, Clip Parfe Day. You don't see the conspiracy here, Paul. 195 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: What's parfet got to do with baked goods? 196 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh, it's close enough. It's got chocolate in it. Global 197 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Love Day, h I wonder how that manifests itself. Loyalty Day, 198 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: all day, loll Day, bathe the Law on Friday. The 199 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: rest of the week is fine, but Friday, Bay the Law, Mother, 200 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Goose Day School, principal stay. And it's May Day as well, 201 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: So celebrate May Day. We are going to break. When 202 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll talk about some of our favorite 203 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: plants going on right now in the garden. You're listening 204 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin on this on a 205 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Reach out to us if you want to. 206 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and eighty three eighty two fifty five will 207 00:12:46,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: be right back. 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As I'm out there setting labels, 249 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: I keep seeing things, Oh that needs a label to 250 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: go back in either make it or find it, get 251 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: out and put that one out. It's very satisfying for 252 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: me and I keep hearing lately that people are enjoying 253 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: seeing the labels on the plants. 254 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: It's important. I know, how before I worked at the Zoo, 255 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: how often I would come to the Zoo and any 256 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: other botanical garden to learn plants, and invariably the one 257 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: that you really most want to know didn't have or 258 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have a label. Right, you are solving that problem 259 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: in a big way as best I can, as best 260 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: you can. Plus, you keep records of everything, we accession 261 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,239 Speaker 1: everything that comes in, try to stay up with the accession, 262 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: which is a harder, harder. 263 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of inventoring I would really like 264 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: to do, and you know, there's just so much other 265 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: stuff that kind of comes to the top of the 266 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: list before inventoring. 267 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: So but this is part of the botanical garden garden 268 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: world that I don't think most people think about, is 269 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: the the resource that that the record systems are as 270 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: far as what works, what doesn't you know, what you've 271 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: had over the years, and then to be able to 272 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: compare it with the other botanical gardens. And that's a 273 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: huge database of important information. 274 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: It is it is, and uh we share it not 275 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: only with the public but with other public gardens, and 276 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: there there are plans that they want to know about. 277 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: You know, what, what if you got in your garden? 278 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 2: There specific plants you know, people want to know about. 279 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: They'll ask, can we have a sample of this or that? 280 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: Go? If it's still there a lot of work being 281 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: done between them through this process on invasive plants too, 282 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: invasive plants. What's seeding around for you? Exactly? You know, 283 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and gets on kind of everybody's radar is a potential 284 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: problem whether it is in their area or not, you know, 285 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: to be determined sometimes, but yeah, very important work. You 286 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: want to talk plants. Let's talk plant Let's talk plants. 287 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: What is one of your favorite plants right now? 288 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: Right now? I think syringa mayrae palaman meyer lilac that 289 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: is off our back deck. We open the door and 290 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: let that waft in that you know, I can be 291 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: working almost anywhere in the yard and smell that. Yeah, 292 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: again fragrant I mentioned earlier. 293 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: And it's a smaller shrubbier lilac that's easier to use 294 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: in landscapes than the old seringa vulgaris or the what 295 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: was it common? Yeah? People love those I do too, 296 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: But they're harder to work into a landscape. I have 297 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: several paladins right across the front of my my house. 298 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: They work pretty darn good as a foundation shrub exactly. 299 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: It's compact. Uh there. 300 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: Lilac's as a as a genus, tend to get kind 301 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: of powdery mildew, and I haven't had a problem with that. 302 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: And I've got that grown in half day sun. We 303 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: even I noticed some at the zoo the other day 304 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: that I realized are still there in almost full day shade. 305 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: Wow, still blooming. Yeah, so impressive. That is a it's 306 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: a it's a great plant. Let's talk about Baptisia. 307 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: Love Baptisia. Screaming yellow is my favorite right now. 308 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: It's awfully darn good. I did look at the American 309 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: goal fish over at the Rockdale Garden earlier this week. 310 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: It's a lot like screaming yellow. Yeah, and just in 311 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: its full glory, it was beautiful. Along with Sparkling Sapphires 312 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: Decadence series, Sparkling Sapphires, I'm in love with that one. 313 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: I can't think of that one right off the top 314 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: of my head. I know Lunar eclips is another nice one. 315 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Sparkling Sapphires is a shorter plant but with longer flowering stems, 316 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: and they are just the most beautiful blue a lot 317 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: like australis the regular Baptisia, but there is something, maybe 318 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: a bicolor something that does make them seem to sparkle. Okay, okay, 319 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: we were both talking about frine trees. 320 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I have a pair of Chinese French tree, which 321 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: is actually just all over Asia, not specifically China. Yeah, 322 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: they're blooming right now, beautiful white, just outside the window 323 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: of my home. 324 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really good plants. Someone in my neighbor's yard 325 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: and I can. She'll let me walk over and look 326 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: at them. But usually I think about them when I'm 327 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: in the backyard and I kind of have to go 328 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: to the back corner and lean over the fence and 329 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: take a peek at just part of them. And stunning, 330 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: absolutely stunning in bloom. 331 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed the fragrance on those? They're pretty good, 332 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: it is, it's surprisingly good. 333 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: We're good. We're going to take a break. We'll be 334 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: back in just a few minutes. We'll keep talking plants. 335 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: You're listening to Let's Garden, Scott Berline. 336 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: Are you tired of spending a lot of time watering 337 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: your plants and try mixing soil moist, water absorbing crystals 338 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: and the soil is your plant. Reduce your watering frequency 339 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: as much as fifty percent Iron Wilson here. Soil moist 340 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: granules hold over two hundred times. 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We're talking plants, but let's just 360 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: review your history. You've worked a bunch of cool places 361 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: I have. You've worked at the Indianapolis Museum of Art 362 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: now known as Newsfield's Great Olmsted Design Garden. 363 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: That you personal Gallagher worked at the Olmsted firm. Yep, Okay, yeah, 364 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: you went to Purdue I did. You worked at the 365 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: Civic Garden Center of Cincinnati here. Yeah, that was the 366 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: first job I took in Cincinnati. After being a stay 367 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: at home dad for a few years, we moved to Cincinnati. 368 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum. Yep, 369 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: what am I missing? 370 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: Those are the those are the big hits. 371 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Those are the ones. Okay, well, let's get back to plants. 372 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: Then enough about you. Nobody wants to know. Yeah, we 373 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: were just talking about Abelia mosenensis during the break. What 374 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: is a common email that one? Uh fragrant abelia. Yeah, 375 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: that's right and descriptive. Yes, one of the best fragrances 376 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: in the garden right now. 377 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 2: It's it's pretty intense. 378 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another one. 379 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: I think that's one I'd rather smell from ten feet 380 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: away and stick my nose right in it. 381 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: I get that, I get that one hundred percent. But 382 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: that fragrance is just so sweet. 383 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: It's wonderful. We have on out in the front yard. 384 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: It's one of three things I have going in the 385 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: front yard. We mentioned the Cayananthus Chinese French tree, got 386 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: the abelia and bignoliacapriolatta or crossfine cross. 387 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: Fine, which is by the drives on the edge of 388 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: hardiness here. 389 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it seems it's hardy as far as uh 390 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: coming back fine. It's not ever green, which and further south, 391 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: so if you see it never green one here. That's 392 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: a plus. 393 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Just one of our great overlooked native vines. H huh. Yeah, 394 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: it's really really deserves a lot more use. To flowers 395 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: are big trumpet flowers that are very beautiful and they 396 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: last fairly long. 397 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: Fairly long time. They're really variable in color. They're usually 398 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: kind of some yellow, some orange, there's a wonderful variety 399 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: called goldfinch that we have at the Zoo Klein introduction. 400 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: That one happens also be fragrant, tangerine beauty, still beautiful, 401 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: not fragrant. So as you know, as my picks go, 402 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be my first just because because you love fragrance. 403 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: I love fragrance. 404 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at peonies. They're coming into their own 405 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: right now. Generally speaking, I'm not a big fan of 406 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: the old giant double flowered peenies that just fall over 407 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: in the first bit of rain. It looks like they 408 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: fall over. You've got a steak them. And I'm not 409 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: a big steaking guy. I don't want to see you know, 410 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: metal rings and posts and wires and it's like soaper hoses. 411 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: You got to put it out before you need it, right, Yeah, 412 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: bulge hides it hopefully, but still I agree. I'm not 413 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: a big steaker. 414 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: But coral charm is one that I will bite the 415 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: bullet on and it usually does stay upright. That is 416 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful old, not that old, but a beautiful peony 417 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: that I absolutely love. 418 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 2: I've staked it. That's a color changer and I love it. 419 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the e toes are ones that you do 420 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: not need to steak. These are hybrids between the herbaceous 421 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: and the woody paeonies. They look herbaceous, they look some 422 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: of them. I've had some luck with mine, or I've 423 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: been fortunate with mine so far. Bartsella has stayed, kept 424 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: some woody stems and kind of gotten bigger. Yeah, it's 425 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: actually sort of shrubby. Yeah, And like any p andy, 426 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: you plant it and it's going to be there long 427 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: after you're gone. They just persist and persist, don't spread 428 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: like they're not a problem, but they stay right there 429 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: in place, like Baptists, like some of these other really 430 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: long lived perennials. So you love the ETOs if you 431 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: find them. They used to be outrageous expensive. 432 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: They're still expensive in my that I've found, but I've 433 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: also found that they are worth. 434 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: Every penny, and they have come down a little bit 435 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: from where they used to be. And I've got to 436 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: mention species Penis. I absolutely love these. I've got p 437 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: andy Oboveda in my garden all over the place because 438 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: I planted seeds, and then Mary Anne Woolburn, unbeknownst to me, 439 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: planted a bunch of them around and so they're all 440 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: over the place. Surprises absolutely, and it's a beautiful upright 441 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: peony with a single pink bloom. Never flops last. The 442 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: balloom lasts for like two and a half hours or 443 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe a day or three days is really short, depending 444 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: on the weather. It could be a little longer. 445 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: Is that one of those that has like the vivid 446 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: seed pods when they split over there? Yeah, that's a 447 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: second black seed. Yes, and that's. 448 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: A beautiful display that people don't think about with a 449 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: lot of the peenies, but especially with the species. And yeah, 450 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: that's a great feature late in the summer, really cool. 451 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: Saw a lot of those in a garden out east 452 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: at that time when they were all split open like that, 453 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: and it was it was a sight to behold. 454 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: It really is. You wanted to talk about irises, and 455 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: so do I. Yeah. 456 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's several irises I like right now at home, 457 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: I have Iris tectorum wollong. 458 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: The roof iris virus I've got. I think it's just 459 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: a straight species. It's a blue. It's been blooming for 460 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: a week and a half already and still going strong. Yeah, 461 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: beautiful plant. Yeah, a little lower grower, like sixteen inches 462 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe exactly. 463 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: I like how tall is nice. These are are short 464 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: and I have a single plant and I don't know 465 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: how many flowers I ate, or ten flowers on a 466 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: single plant, yeah, right now, So it's floriferous, just really 467 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: holding the space. 468 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Yah, one to track down if you have half a chance. 469 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: I like Caesar's Brother, very calm and very easy to 470 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: find Suberian. But the color on that and just for 471 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: me at least, it just wants to grow nice. Yeah, 472 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't misbeat. It's out in deer country, never gets nibbled. 473 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I just cursed it. 474 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, at the zoo, we have we've sort of 475 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: been we've been gifted a number of iris or the 476 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: last let's see twenty two. Since twenty two we've been 477 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: getting like fifteen a year from a very generous donor. 478 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Yes. 479 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: Two of my favorites of those Bumblebee Delight and they 480 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: misspelled delight dee l I t E. 481 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: But whatever. It's corny. 482 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: It is very corny yellow uprights with really dark falls. 483 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Beautiful. 484 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: Another one is garden Thyme, which is a very tall 485 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: yellow and I love it because even though it's tall, 486 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: it does stay upright. It's a very strong stem and 487 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: the fragrance again, fragrance really good. 488 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. People don't think of iruses for fragrance, but some 489 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: of them have really good fragrance. Yeah. Oh we both 490 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: mentioned major Wheeler honeysuckle. Oh yeah, before everybody freaks out, 491 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: that is a native honeycycle. Yeah it is. 492 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: It is a Lenis ras sempervirans, not Linis or mackey 493 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: I the bad one. 494 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: Right, or a couple other bad guys. 495 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a winer sort of climber. 496 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: Kind of a It climbs, but it's a shrubby kind 497 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: of climb. It is. 498 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: It'll climb on itself. If you just leave it in 499 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: a mile, it will. But a favorite of hummingbirds, and 500 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: we spotted the first one the other day in Monroe. 501 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good news. Yeah you're back. Yeah. It's a 502 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: vivid red color to this flower, the typical trumpet binds, 503 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: which the hummingbirds love, and it blooms for quite a 504 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: long time. 505 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's we're in a big flush right now and 506 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: then it's going to bloom sporadically but fairly well all summer. 507 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: So again, the hummingbird. We see it on our back 508 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: deck all through summer. 509 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, coming to visit it. Definitely, it's always in bloom, 510 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: but it sort of goes through phases of floishes. Yeah. 511 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you keep it kind of, if you keep 512 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: it watered uniformly watered through the season, I think it 513 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: seems to bloom a little more uniformly as well. 514 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Tough plant content, handle a fair amount of shade. I 515 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: wanted to mention salvia. It's just three that I really 516 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: am enjoying right now. Asia Snow is one I absolutely love. 517 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: It's a blue and white flower. Oh write that by color. Yeah, 518 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: so nice. Moulin Rouge is a newer one. It's just 519 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: been stunning at the Zoo. A really good grower, as 520 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: is Sally Rosa. April Knight, I guess there was May Night. 521 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: There is May Night, which is a very common standard, 522 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: ye and I guess yeah, April Night is just they're 523 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: telling us it's a little earlier. 524 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: We have a couple others at the Zoo. Lilac Lipstick, 525 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: it's in the same series as Mulin Rouge at the Fashionistas, 526 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: and then Pink Dawn, which is one of the color spiders. 527 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: Those two were in one bed and well they kinda 528 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: were close enough to each other. I think they rost 529 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: a bit. That bed is full of all kinds of pinks. 530 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: Now. 531 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: I don't know that any one of them are either 532 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: lilac lipstick or pink dawn, but that bed is full 533 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: of pink and it just looks stunning right now. 534 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: So good, what's your next one? And Sonia's mine too. 535 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: They're so good and such plans. 536 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: They're hitting their peak right now too. Storm Cloud I 537 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: love it early on. It's got those really dark stems, right, 538 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: and then I think it's got one of the more 539 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: the bluer of the blue flowers. They all have some 540 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: kind of blue, even the ones that are kind of 541 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: white are just the palest bit of blue. 542 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: Right. Storm Cloud gets really blue and it has a 543 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: really nice shrubby form to Yeah, very tidy, yeah, very 544 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: ty and long lift all the Amsunya is gonna live forever, right, 545 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: and you're resistant or. 546 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: Like Bartisia, plant it where you're you're want to be 547 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: good with it forever. 548 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: That's right. Starstruck is a nice one too. I do 549 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: like that one. 550 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: It's uh still, it's really only a little bit lighter 551 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: I think than. 552 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: It is the storm Cloud one of them. The flowers 553 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: are a little bit more sporadic or sparse, you know, 554 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: individual flowers more as opposed to like the clump of flowers. 555 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: And I can't remember which is which at this point, but. 556 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: How does your plants hubricked the eyes? 557 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Then one of my favorite perennials. Yeah. Then leaf shrubby, 558 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: very fine textured, will move in the wind in the 559 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: most delightful. 560 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: Way, almost like a grass. Yes, exactly like a grass. Good, 561 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: good analogy grass. It will stay standing. 562 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what it does in the fall. 563 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: Turns a glorious yellow orange. 564 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Just it matches your gekos. Yeah. Butter scotch. 565 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: There's a there's a color our called butterscotch, and that 566 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: is aptly named. I think butterscotch is kind of the 567 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: color that that must have turned great plant. 568 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm into the Japanese maples right now with the new foliage, 569 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: the reds, the just the fineness of the texture, the 570 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: beauty of the form. Now with the new foliage, just stunning, 571 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: the fresh leaves. And we've been fortunate. I think we've 572 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: had just enough rain. They're not crispying they they Heaven 573 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: help us if we have a late late hard frost now. 574 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that'd be terrible. 575 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: It's not out of the question, but probably unlikely. Clear 576 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: of that, I have to throw out kiaren azalea. It's 577 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: one of the few asaleas we can grow really reliably 578 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: here in our alkaline soils, and just every year of 579 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: such a reliable performer. 580 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 2: Quite it's a very vivid color, though. 581 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: It's probably an acquiet taste. Yeah, if to me it 582 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: matches easter perfectly along with the daffodils, those kind of 583 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: bright early spring colors. I can handle it in the spring. 584 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: I probably couldn't handle it in the summer. 585 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 2: But again, another one that's got some decent fall color. Yeah, 586 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: you're right, you're right what I forgot what we were 587 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: talking about, getting way ahead of things, But yeah, decent. 588 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 589 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: My wife is named Karen, and I really should have 590 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: one of those in the yard. She hasn't really bugged 591 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: me about it, so she's not really a gardener. 592 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: She no. 593 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: Most of the time she looks at something and says 594 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: plant she does know medicaquoia. 595 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Well there you go. So what you could do is 596 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: you could say, hey, I just was dabbling with some 597 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: plant breeding. I came up with this. When I named 598 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: it after you, she'll know she'll know he knows better 599 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: than that. And I got to mention hostas too, because 600 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: they never look better than they look right now before 601 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: anything has a chance to munch on them. And you know, 602 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: the new leaves are just perfect, and yeah they're common stirt, 603 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: but still just such great plants. Paul, we're up against 604 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: a break again. Let's go ahead and take one. 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I 630 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: wanted to go into Styrax snowbells, love them, love them. 631 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: Japanicus is the one that most people are familiar with. 632 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've smelled a couple around here. 633 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yea beautiful. They're beautiful. There's a handful of cultivars. 634 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: They're all pretty much the same as far as performance. 635 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: A little bit of difference in color maybe or form 636 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: A couple of newer darkly varieties out there, which are 637 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: really nice. Yeah, but I wanted to talk about a tree. 638 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of my Styrex hemsleyannis proud of it 639 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One is, I'm the only 640 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: person I know that has one, and. 641 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm kind of hoping now I want to look it 642 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: up and see whether or not they lumped that into 643 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: you have it? 644 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: I love you did. Okay, it does look a lot 645 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: like Obasia, which is the fragrant snowbellyep and which I have. 646 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: But this is when I picked up at a plant 647 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: sal at the Washington Parks Arboretum in Washington State, a 648 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: beautiful arboream beautiful beautiful place, probably at Dan Hinckley collection. 649 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, I can see where he donated these things. 650 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk about the fun of growing 651 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: rare plants for just a second. You know. It's not 652 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: like that whole proud thing like I just expressed of Oh, 653 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that has this. That's a bonus. 654 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: That's a bonus, that's icing on the cake. The real 655 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: reason is to just satisfy your curiosity to learn I 656 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: don't know this plant, why don't I try it. 657 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: Will it work here? 658 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: You know, your failures on rare plants are equal to 659 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: or greater than your winds. And I've gotten rare plants 660 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: that turned out to be ugly as sin and I 661 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: had to get rid of them. But it's just been 662 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: such a fun part of the learning process. I just 663 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: feel like more people out of play with picking up 664 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: the rare thing once in a while. 665 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: I agree, you might find something that that works in 666 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 2: is great wherever you live, or if you know, if 667 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: you happen to be so fortunate as to work in 668 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 2: a botanic gardener, our breedom something that can then be 669 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: grown there and shown off for the people who visit 670 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: there more widely than. 671 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that's you know, it's part of 672 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: the the research that that botanical gardens that our bretoms 673 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: do exactly is try the stuff out, see if it 674 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: works in this area. Maybe it adds to the diversity 675 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: that we can put into our landscapes. And you know, 676 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: people love it or not, whether you know they want 677 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: to put it in their yards. All good stuff, right right. 678 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't think of myself as a gambler, but I 679 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 2: guess in a way I am sort of with the 680 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: purchases that I make that hardening purchases. It's low stakes. 681 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't spend a whole lot of money on it. 682 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: I have a gatekeeper. 683 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've got just a couple of minutes here. 684 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: What other plants are on your list right now? 685 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: Uh? 686 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: Camass is and and that's that's as close as you 687 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: get to the common name comss camas walmash, isn't it. 688 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 2: That's another one? 689 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay? 690 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: Uh, there are several species. Locally you can find Camassias silhoueides, 691 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: which is really pretty much uh like the Eastern United 692 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: States Atlantic. 693 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, native plants you would buy from bulb catalogs plant 694 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: in the fall. 695 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 2: But for big garden impact, the Kamasia kasikii and Camassia 696 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: like lineaies are what if you want big showy flowers, 697 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: those are the ones I would recommend the folks blue danube, yeah, 698 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: and semiplana. 699 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: What these is? They come on later as far as 700 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: most bulbs are concerned. They're more taller, but yeah, you know, 701 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 1: they don't dominate the landscape like a big daffodil mte. 702 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: Right, They're like accent. I mean you could have a 703 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: big space full of them, which would be quite dramatic, absolutely, 704 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: but I like to plant them in among other things. 705 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: The blue danube look beautiful with caliecanthus, carolina allspice. Yeah, 706 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: those little purple red flowers and then the blue of 707 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: the blue danube color combination I really like. 708 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't recall the spent foliage at all, so it 709 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: mustn't be too dominating when the plant sort of calls 710 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: it quits. 711 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 2: Right, So one of the things I try to do 712 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 2: when I'm planting these and other minor bulbs for lack 713 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: of a better term, at which we will revisit. 714 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll revisit minor bulbs a little bit later 715 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: in the show. 716 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: I try to plant them in among other things that 717 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: will hide the foliage when the foliage is starting to 718 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 2: go down. 719 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: So yeahs that all good stuff, really good plants. Everybody 720 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: should hit the garden centers real soon. Now here's the 721 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: thing about garden centers. Right now, everybody wants to do 722 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: it because it's coming up. We're coming up on Mother's Day. 723 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's thinking gardens spring planting, right, but you need to 724 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: keep hitting your independent garden centers throughout the entire season. 725 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: Otherwise what happens They're. 726 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: Going to run out of stuff now before I can 727 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 2: get there. 728 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: No, well, that's true, but your garden looks great for 729 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: two or three weeks of the year and then it 730 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: is boring. You need to go back and buy the 731 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: stuff throughout the season that's in bloom that makes everything 732 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: look really good. Plant ahead, Plan ahead. You are listening 733 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: to Let's guard what Scott Berline. We'll be back with 734 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: Matt Bzell from Churchill Downs in just a second.