1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey twenty nine on a Thursday. It's that time I 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: always look forward to this time. I heard media aviation 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: expert Jay Ratliff joins the program go through aviation issues, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: and we've got a big one to talk about right 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: out of the gate. Welcome back, Jay Ratlift my friends. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Pleasure having you on Pleasure. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Good morning brand. 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't use any curse words on the morning show, Jay, Okay, 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: I know I don't have for worrying you about that, 10 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: but things might fall off the rails. You probably weren't 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: listening to my last guest anyhow. 12 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you have to worry too much 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: with that. I got done with news Max and jumped 14 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: on this call tweaks as that could. So normally I 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: like to tune in ahead of time so I know 16 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: what I'm walking into. So my apologies I didn't get Yeah, yeah. 17 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: That's aokay, brother. I just so listeners who were hearing 18 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the phone call probably understand what I'm talking about. Anyway. 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Let's start with El Paso Airport closure. FA announces all 20 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden that they're going to close the airport 21 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: ten days airspace shut down, but then within a fairly 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: short period of time there after they said, no, no, 23 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: we're opening it back up. It's nothing to here. We 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: just shot down a party balloon. Jay Rattliffe, was that overreaction? 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: I guess they weren't able to identify what it was. 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Widely reported that they thought it might have been a drone, 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: perhaps a drug cartel drone flying around in the airspace. 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: But I understand maybe shutting the airspace down out of 29 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: an abundance of caution, you know, like at Reagan Airport 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: where a helicopter flew into an airplane. We don't want 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: that to happen. But saying right out front without all 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: the information that it's a ten day air closure, Jay, 33 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: your reaction. 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: To this, Well, I got news at the airport was closed, 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: that they had the airspace closure at ten miles ten 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: nautical miles seventeen eighteen thousand feet and under, and I 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: thought okay, And then I saw it was for ten days. 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: I was like, wait a bit time out here. I 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: see airport closures all the time, temporarily for you know, 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: if there's been an accident, if there's runway construction, if 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: there is you know, a power outage, something that's impacting 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: it to stay from the onset it's going to be 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: ten ten days made zero sense. So you start looking 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: into it, and yeah, I heard the fact that a 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: party balloon was responsible. Then we had reports, No no, no, 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 2: it was laser tests at a nearby military installation. No no, no, 47 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: it was a cartel drones in the area. This time, 48 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: we mean it. It was one thing after another that 49 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: we were hearing all this stuff, and other than the 50 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: attacks of nine to eleven, this was unprecedented as far 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: as the closure of an airspace. And again that ten 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: day period of time just kept messing with my mind. 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: And you know, we're hearing that there was a lack 54 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: of communication, which I can certainly believe between government agencies, 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: and it left the elected officials in the area that 56 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: were being asked what was going on clueless. But you 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: also had airlines that had planes preparing to land in 58 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: El Paso being told no, you can't land here. And 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: of course the airline was like, what do you mean 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: the airport's closed, and they said, yeah, for ten days, 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: And to make sure everybody was paying attention, they put 62 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: in there, look this not only is this airspace closed, 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 2: but we have authorized the use of deadly force. Oh 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: my now now that's like whoa. So that means means 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: no general aviation aircraft. You didn't have any cargo airplanes flying, 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 2: you had no commercial activity. And Brian, if you had 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: a MedFlight to you know, care flight, medical transport, they 68 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: couldn't play either. So if you had a critical transplant 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: organ that you're trying to get from one place to another, 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: it's by grounds because you're not flying. So you had 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: and of course you're in Texas, so the next nearest 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: airports light, you know, two hundred miles away for a 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: lot of passengers, plus and because everything's big in Texas. 74 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: So one of the problems, of course is you know 75 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: you've got these people getting ready go on vacation they've 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: been planning for because February's big cruise month. You got 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: these people traveling for business that you know, fly in, 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: fly out, and you've got all of this disruption of 79 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: playing one hundred and seventy flights a day with six 80 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: different airlines. All of it just kind of up in question. 81 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, if we told what the official exploment is, 82 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: we may never get the full picture here. But you know, 83 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: if there is drone activity concern and it's along the border. 84 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Is it going to happen to another airport down the 85 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: road is along that border as well? 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Well? In Europe? Yeah, I mean it dealt with us. 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: In Europe, we've talked about the fact that, and we 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: had the London Heathrow Airport that was impacted for a 89 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: number of days because of excessive drone activity, and airlines said, oh, 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: we're not gonna be flying in there because we don't 91 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: have that. And the question I'm asked all the time 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: is is the you know, Jay, why are we that 93 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: worried about drones? And I said, well, the birds can 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: bring an airplane down, thank you, Ja. Certainly a thirty 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: forty pound fifty pounds drone can do that, plus not 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: only you know, flying into the engines, but impacting the 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: aircraft in such way that the avionicses are impacted and 98 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: affected and adversely so And then of course, you know, 99 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: you've got a critical moment of flight. You've got an 100 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: aircraft fully fueled, preparing to take off or in the 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: process of or you've got an aircraft that's on its 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: final approach, preparing to land. And with those critical moments 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: of flight, you don't have the benefit of increased altitude 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: to work a problem that might be created by an 105 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: impact with a piece of debris. So as a result, 106 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: it just makes it even more of a dangerous situation. 107 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: So we'll see where this goes. But you know, Brian, 108 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: I'm more confused now than I was before. I mean, 109 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: the only explanation we've not heard is it's another run 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: as well. So you never know what. Let's throw that 111 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: one out there because you know, maybe twenty years from 112 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: now that we said, yeah, you remember in LPAs so 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: what we were told it was really aliens at LANT. 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: You just never know on stuff like this, and we'll 115 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: see where it goes. 116 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: That gives me some comfort. If you don't know the answer, 117 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: then that may feel good because I certainly don't know 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: the answer. But real quick, before we take a break here, 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Jay rowlif In so far as the hierarchy of control 120 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: over closing airspace, I guess it's the FAA who makes 121 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: that final call. Do they have exclusive authority to shut 122 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: down airspace or does that belong in some other letter agents? 123 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah they do. Ben Sliney was the fa director that's 124 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: on the attack to nine to eleven, made the call 125 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: to ground every airplane within ninety minutes now, and he 126 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: didn't act it on his own. It was his first 127 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 2: day on the job in that position. But in this case, 128 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: it sounds as though from the people I'm talking to, 129 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: that the FAA was told to do so by somebody 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: in the Department of Homeland Security. I think now that 131 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: that's not been confirmed, certainly not been anything that is 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: a kind of a prevalent thought process, But it was 133 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: as though they were told to do it and did so, 134 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: because again, this is not normal for the FAA. The 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: FAI close airspace frequently, they do it daily in some regards, 136 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: but never for this much of an extended period of time, 137 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: which makes me think they were told to do it, 138 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: and then it quickly kind of blew up and we 139 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: went from there. 140 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: All right, we'll part company to bring it back after 141 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the break, and we'll talk about wheels falling off. We'll 142 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: talk about don't get on an airline to Tokyo if 143 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: you're going to Nicaragua and Cuba has run out of fuel. 144 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: More with iheartbadaviation expert Jay Ratliff right up for these 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: brief words. Ever been in a cockpit before? Jay Ratlift 146 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: has He's our iheartmediavia is extpert, and we have the 147 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: pleasure of here from Jay every Thursday the beginning at 148 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: a thirty. And for those who are listening on Trust 149 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: YOUAL Radio, isn't it good you have an AM radio? 150 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Because all morning we've been having server problems, Jay, and 151 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: the stream audio isn't working, and I'm getting text after 152 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: text after text and notice after notice after notice, and 153 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: we know about it. We got an engineer trying to 154 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: sort it out. But if you're trying to listen to 155 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: me on the IHEARTMEDIAPP right now, you're not hearing what 156 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm having to say. Jay Ratliff back to the list. 157 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: Got more wheels falling off? Is this becoming a more 158 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: common occurrence? Or is just because we have the Internet 159 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: that we learn about times when well airplane wheels fall off? 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: Jay, Well, we've had this happen. We had a Delta 161 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: flight that was behind an aircraft that was taxing and 162 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 2: it turned onto the runway and one of the tires 163 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: kept rolling forward. 164 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: And wow. 165 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 2: But when you're talking about this British Airways flight, we've 166 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: got a picture of it coming off. So when it 167 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: goes viral, becomes a story, big story. There's a lot 168 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: of people like to talk about. So you know what 169 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: happened here was a British Airways flight leaving Las Vegas 170 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: that rotates, in other words, that lifts off the ground, 171 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: is coming up the three landing gears, the nosewheel and 172 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: the two gears, the main ones underneath the wing rotate 173 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: in and close up in. One of the mules falls off. Now, 174 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: if you and I are tooling down seventy five and 175 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: one of our four tires come off, yeah we're toast. 176 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: But this is something where the main landing gear is 177 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: the two that you have on this airbus have six 178 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: tires on each two two and two on each side. 179 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: So you've got, in essence, twelve tires under that main 180 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: landing gear. So that means you have eleven tires still good. 181 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: So one of the twelve fell off. I'm more concerned 182 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: about where that two hundred and fifty pound tire is 183 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: going to land than I am the aircraft itself, because 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: that's going through a roof of car. It's going to 185 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: kill somebody, but it's them. Fortunately it's okay though, so 186 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: we're not too worried about that. But you know, in 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: this situation, it worked out okay. Thankfully. There was no, 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: no injuries of any kind of crew was alerted and 189 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: the flight continued landed, you know, as usual. Now, they 190 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: probably had some fire trucks standing by simply as a precaution. 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: Is they tend to just in case something's needed, if 192 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of sparks or something that happens. 193 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: But ran. The bottom line is, you know, it was 194 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: I don't want to say a non event, because the 195 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: people flying these airplanes, as you and I've talked about 196 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: a lot of times, they're military, former military, and these 197 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: men and women too. Yeah, eleven out of twelve were good. 198 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've seen them land airplanes with 199 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: no landing gears because they can't get them all down 200 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: and they have to foam the runway down and they 201 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: land and passengers say, you know, it was loud, but 202 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: wasn't that bad up of the landing. So that's why 203 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: I have total confidence when I step on board an 204 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: aircraft with regards to the people that are upfront taking 205 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: good care of me. 206 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Not that bad of landing, except for the fact you've 207 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: got to go change your shorts once you deboord a deplane. 208 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: Anyway, well, you know, you walk away from it You're okay. 209 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Right, amen. Brother. Cuba obviously struggling economically, and they have 210 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: been now for decades, got a bigger struggle now. Apparently, 211 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: according to your notes, they have a fuel shortage and 212 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: airlines that are having to cancel flights into Cuba. 213 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. President Trump has in essence kind of impacted the 214 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: ability for Cuba get oil. So as a result, you've 215 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: seen the country saying we're in the process of running out, 216 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: and then they got to the point where they said, 217 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to fuel airlines that 218 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: come into our airport. So as a result, airlines are 219 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: now needing to adjust. You have Air Canada this week 220 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: that said until we're able to refuel there, we're not 221 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: going to be flying in there. We're going to suspend 222 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: our operations. You have airlines like some of the Russian 223 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: carriers come in say we're going to continue operations until 224 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: we get our passengers out. We're not bringing anybody in 225 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: until that situations resolved. You have US carriers that are 226 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: still flying in but with some modifications. Because normally what 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: happens if you're flying from Atlanta to Cuba and back, 228 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: you'll fuel in Atlanta, you'll fuel in Cuban and just 229 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: carry as much fuel as you need. But now the 230 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: airlines have to overfuel where they have enough fuel to 231 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: fly there and fly back, and sometimes that's impacting their loads. 232 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: We're seeing I think Southwest Airlines has some flights where 233 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: they're taking no one in and then airlifting people out. 234 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: So obviously this is a situation that's requiring a great 235 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: deal of adjustments on the part of airlines, and we're 236 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: seeing exactly that. So uh that that's going to continue, 237 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: sadly for some time and hopefully it'll get worked out. 238 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: But Cuba's kind of caught in the middle of this 239 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: political situation and the passengers obviously, and the and the 240 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: freight and the cargo and all the other things that 241 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: are impacted here, are you know, causing kind of increased 242 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: economic hardship. 243 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Well, certainly understand that, and obviously that maybe by design 244 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: that I'm just kind of curious what is the domestic demand, 245 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: at least in so far as to travel to Cuba. 246 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it. All. We got high. 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: Look, we American Airlines flights out of Miami quite a few. 248 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: You've got the flights out of Atlanta really got yeah, 249 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's it's it's surprising the number of people 250 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: that still bounce back and forth there. And as a result, 251 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: anytime you have disruption of the air service, as we've 252 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: been saying, you have the problems that we're looking at 253 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: right now. So you just hope it gets resolved quickly, 254 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: because you know, it's like that o'l passive situation. When 255 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: you have airport issues, it impacts everybody who wants to fly, 256 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: and it impacts you know, business people, people going on 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: vacation and other kinds of things. And you know, for 258 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: some of the people, they've been planning this thing for 259 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: years and now they're been told at the last minute 260 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: and sorry, we can't because of the situation that's ongoing. 261 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, coming up in the battle for Boeing 262 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: versus Airbus, who wins and which of them has the 263 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: most leg room? Couple of topics with Jay plus don't 264 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: get on a plane to Tokyo if that's not where 265 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: you're going. Continue with Jay after these brief words. It 266 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: is a fifty to fifty five pair CD talk station. 267 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Happy or right, Ae, Jay ratlef or I Heart Media 268 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: Aviation Expert. One more segment. I see you have a 269 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: battle of Boeing versus Airbus in terms of the number 270 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: of airplanes sold and how well the businesses are doing. 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: And we can maybe shoehorn that into the survey of 272 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: which airlines have the most leg rooms. Maybe, But they 273 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: can be configured differently, which the Boeing or the Airbus, 274 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: depending on which plane you buy. Any airline can configure 275 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: the seating room differently, right, It depends on the airline 276 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: they can. 277 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: It can be the whatever they want because you're buying it, 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: and if you want to configure it to have instead 279 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty seats, you know, seven, you 280 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: can do it. You're not going to make any money 281 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: that way, but you certainly can. But yeah, we had 282 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: last year something Brian that hadn't happened in ten years, 283 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: and that is that Boeing actually delivered more airplanes than 284 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: did air Bus. You had a situation where it was 285 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: they had eleven hundred and seventy three airplanes that Boeing 286 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: delivered last year Airbus eight hundred and eighty nine. So 287 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: last year was a first in quite a while. So 288 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: Boeing is coming back. But in January Boeing took one 289 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: hundred and three orders for airplanes. Airbus took fifty Oh wow, yep, 290 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: so it's yeah, so plus I think it was last 291 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: month Airbus delivered fifteen airplanes to customers and Boeing forty six. 292 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: The Boeing Max continues to be a great air craft 293 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: from a sales standpoint, and it's Boweing's on the way back, 294 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: and I tell you it's exciting to see. And you 295 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: just hope this kind of momentum continues. And you know 296 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: they've replaced the CEOs, some things were changed, and boy, 297 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: the Boeing's doing a lot of things, right. You just 298 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: you want it to continue. 299 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: You wanted to. They have a way of perhaps not 300 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: continuing down a proper path, as you've demonstrated many times 301 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: over the years we've been talking, Jay. 302 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: But I guess demonstrated Yeah, how. 303 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I guess I just have to ask, because it's been 304 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: a backlog for a long time, how long will it 305 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: take if someone just got done ordering aircraft from Boeing, 306 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: how many years is going to before they actually get them? 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: It could be well, Airbus, it could be three to four, 308 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: Boeing two to three. But again keep in mind, collectively 309 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: between the two they probably have nineteen thousand airplanes eighteen 310 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: nineteen thousand that are backlogged. That number may be off 311 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: a bit because I've not researched it recently, but it's 312 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: an extensive number. And that's one of the reasons that 313 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: if an airline wants to grow quickly, a lot of 314 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: times what you'll see is they'll buy another airline, like 315 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: you know, spirits get a bunch of Airbus aircraft, somebody 316 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: make them go, hey we want these boom, they'll just 317 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: take those, so, you know, or you consider on a wait. 318 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: But these new airplanes, boy, they're they're fuel efficient, they're 319 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: incredible aircraft, and they continue to save airlines quite a 320 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: bit of money good and you know, that's one of 321 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: the reasons that when you look at these things, it's 322 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, it makes the newer the aircraft, the more 323 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: money you make. And it's going to be interesting to 324 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: see if people move along, how many of these aircraft 325 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: they can continue to get. And I get excited because 326 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: obviously all of those been all that saving is going 327 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: to be passed on to customers. Right. We hope. 328 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Tongue might have been in your seat when you said 329 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: that real quick, yeah, mentioned the leg room, since that 330 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: was a separate line at them. What's your line in 331 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: the world? 332 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: Do have the most leg room you want to you 333 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: can look at I think it's Japan Airlines that has 334 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: the most leg room on an aircraft as far as 335 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: thirty four inches. We call it pitch the distance betwe 336 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: between rows. Japan Airlines is thirty four inches, Jet Emirates 337 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: is thirty four inches. Jet Blue has got the most 338 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: of any US carrier in coach at thirty two point 339 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: three inches between rows. Now you go to somebody like 340 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: the last Airlines of Delta, it's thirty one inches. Spirit 341 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: good luck there, twenty eight inches your knees are going 342 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: to be in under your chin. But yeah, it's a 343 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: lot of times when people fly internationally they email me saying, 344 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: Joe's in coach. My gosh, I felt like I was 345 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: in a business plus class seat because of the fact 346 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: of just how much extra room I had, And that 347 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: was very, very nice. But you know, in the United States, 348 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: it's been clear that hey, We're willing to put up 349 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff, and as a result that 350 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: they continue to decrease that pitch. In fact, American Airlines 351 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: recently put an act extra row in first class and 352 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: instead of removing an extra row in coach, they shortened 353 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: the distance between every single row and coach, so everybody 354 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: on the plane is paying for that extra row of 355 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: seats in first class. Thank you very much. 356 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll have to let our listeners are 357 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: my listeners, go out and figure out, well why a 358 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: guy going to Nicaragua would buy a plane to Tokyo. 359 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: Since we're out of time, but check your airplane and 360 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: its destination before you get on the plane. 361 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: Jay rattles on that great big screen. You know you 362 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: can look up and. 363 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: See there's that real quick here. How's it looking out 364 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: there in terms of hub delays for flying. 365 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Today, Uh, we're better shaped today than we have been. 366 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: Looking at some possible issues towards the Northeast, I'm hoping 367 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: they're not going to be until later today. The South 368 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: may have some issues later in the day as well, 369 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: but I really think the problem marriages are going to 370 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: be Washington, d C. In Philadelphia, possibly New York again, 371 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: not until later in. 372 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: The day, Congress. I'd rather, Uh, Jay Ratli, thank you 373 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: so much for tell me that. 374 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: Now. 375 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: I was looking at my rundown and Warren Davidson was 376 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: on earlier. If I was going to call you a congressman, 377 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: at least it warn't David's going to be a good 378 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: label to put on you. 379 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: Now they would be. Now I would consider that a compliment, 380 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: but I I have little regard for people on both 381 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: sides of the aisle. 382 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: But then, yeah, thanks, yeay, we'll talk next Thursday. Keep 383 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: up the great world, con best to health and loved 384 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: you in your better half folks. Early on the program 385 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: cost Warren Davidson. He had Governor's house, Jimmy curveall the 386 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: chef there, who's going to be at the Marty Graft 387 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: fundraiser on Fat Tuesday in Northern Kentucky. Casey Putsch for 388 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes anyway, he's running for governor, but 389 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: didn't make a great case for himself, and then hung up. 390 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, it's all fifty five KRC dot com. Thank you, 391 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Sean McMahon. Folks, have a great day, unkleway. Glenn Beeck's 392 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: coming up.