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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincey three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Welcome in and happy Friday.

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Speaker 2: It is Sincy three sixty coming your way for the

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Speaker 2: next three hours here on the hull of the Bengals

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Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. So happy, so grateful

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Speaker 2: to have you along on a Friday afternoon. The sun

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Speaker 2: is actually out now. It's going to get colder throughout

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Speaker 2: the day, Austin, but the sun is actually out right now,

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Speaker 2: which means we've got a lot to celebrate, and we'll

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Speaker 2: do so here for the duration of Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten multiple, multiple guests this afternoon, which means if

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Speaker 2: you want to talk to us this afternoon, our number

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Speaker 2: one probably the best time to do so. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty because we'll kick off our number two with

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Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith. We'll talk Reds. We'll kick off our number

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Speaker 2: three with our guy, the voice of FC Cincinnati Tommy Gallader.

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Speaker 2: That'll be at two o'clock as FC Cincinnati will welcome

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta to TQL Stadium for a four to forty

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Speaker 2: five start tomorrow and the friendly confines of TQL Stadium.

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Speaker 2: We also have Bob Manjean as the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: basketball team gets ready to head to Kansas to take

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Speaker 2: on the Jayhawks tomorrow. We'll talk to Bob in our

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Speaker 2: number three. We'll talk about something that apparently Danan Peterson

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Speaker 2: how that can affect athletes at the college level or

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Speaker 2: even the high school level as well. So stick around

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Speaker 2: for that, and then of course we'll pass things over

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Speaker 2: to the Moegar Show at three o'clock and we'll be

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Speaker 2: joined by Moeger around two forty five for quick kits.

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Speaker 2: That is what's ahead, of course, your talkbacks, So if

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Speaker 2: us a talkback. We'll get to those in our number two.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started with a brief Olympic not our official

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Speaker 2: Olympic up date Austin. But there is this turning point

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Speaker 2: and I don't know when and how it happens. But

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Speaker 2: there's a point where the Olympics were happening, and I

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Speaker 2: think you and I had this conversation on air, like

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Speaker 2: I watch, but it's kind of like in the background

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, we get into like the last couple of days,

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Speaker 2: and the flip has officially switched for me. Now I

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Speaker 2: am team USA. The patriotism is oozing out of me.

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Speaker 2: And I think the finish to the US women's gold

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Speaker 2: do with that, where USA trailed Canada late, won nothing,

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Speaker 2: they score a late gold of force overtime, and then

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Speaker 2: to win Olympic gold. And at that point it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I do care a lot about this. I got goose bumps.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Watching that moment, and it's especially cool, and the Olympics

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Speaker 3: and you get the overtime and this explosion of cheer

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Speaker 3: That that that sort of unifying feeling everybody together being

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. And I my brother I mentioned last week,

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't the only good thing to happen in

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Speaker 2: a row. We'll keep you updated with all things Olympics

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Speaker 2: going forward. We've also got a massive college basketball weekend

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Speaker 2: both nationally and locally. Nationally tomorrow you get number four

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Speaker 2: which is unique here Austin because I always kind of think,

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Speaker 2: Jones Capitol Showcase at the Capitol One Arena in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: Number one Michigan is going to take on number three Duke.

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Speaker 2: So all four top teams in action tomorrow, all those

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Speaker 2: teams playing against each other, top twenty five matchup, Iowa

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Speaker 2: Northern Kentucky is at Youngstown State. Saturday, Duke Caine or

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Speaker 2: a state where my team has not reached the NCAA

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Speaker 2: If there is one thing that is awesome in sports

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Speaker 2: often you could argue that college and the NCUBA don't have,

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Speaker 2: DOUBLEA Tournament. Why would you mess with that? Why would

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Speaker 2: I don't quite understand it mentioned before FC Cincinnati will

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Speaker 2: play host to Atlanta tomorrow. The NBA. NBA was back

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Speaker 2: night for Moe's New York Knicks. I know it wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good night for your Chicago Bulls either.

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Speaker 3: The Bulls they're a bad basketball team. Everybody kind of

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Speaker 3: knows that they've lost nine of their last ten, seven consecutive. Well,

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Speaker 3: basketball season's over. Here's in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Here's what was discussed yesterday from the NBA Commissioner, Adam Silver.

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Speaker 2: He informed the thirty general managers across the NBA that

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Speaker 2: the NBA plans to make anti tanking rule changes for

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Speaker 2: next year, so they are starting to propose potential concepts

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Speaker 2: for changes during its December meeting with owners. Concepts that

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Speaker 2: have been discussed to curb tanking are as follows. First

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Speaker 2: round draft picks can be protected only for the top

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Speaker 2: four or top fourteen plus selections. Lottery odds freeze at

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline, no longer allowing the team to pick

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Speaker 2: you got to try to win. Lottery odds are allocated

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Speaker 2: I could get on board with that as well. Lottery

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Speaker 2: odds for all lottery teams. It's not something we've discussed

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's right for Adam Silver to address

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Speaker 3: It needs to be changed. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: don't understand why they still have a lottery. That's the

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Speaker 3: part that I don't understand. Why can't you do it

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Speaker 3: like the NFL does it. That would be my question,

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Speaker 3: why can't you, Hey, worst team in the league and

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Speaker 3: went down to get the number one pick, and that

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Speaker 3: moving on from Lucas. So I don't understand why they

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Speaker 3: need to do the lottery. I don't quite get that,

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Speaker 3: but whatever, Well, I hope it works.

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Speaker 2: Funny you mentioned the lottery because the Ohio Lottery postgame

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Speaker 2: concert series is back at Great American Ballpark. Let me

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Speaker 2: give you these names John Party, marsh Mellow, Rick Ross, Ludicrous. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Any of those four names do anything for you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All of them? Right, all of them. I like all

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Speaker 2: those guys. Okay. I saw John Party last summer.

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Speaker 3: John Party's good. He wasn't too bad. Marshmellow is an

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Speaker 3: interesting cat. He'll put on a show.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you anything right now about Marshmellow.

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Speaker 3: He's he's like more of like an electric or electronic.

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Speaker 2: I'm reading here. He's got more than sixteen point eight

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Speaker 2: billion Spotify streams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, okass, popular, Like it'll make you shake

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Speaker 3: your groof thing a little bit now, okay. And then

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Speaker 3: Rick Ross, I'm a ball hustling, come on, hustling. And

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Speaker 3: then how could you go wrong?

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Speaker 4: Luda?

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Speaker 2: I mean those are all good. John Party Wednesday July eighth,

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Speaker 5: I saved this for Friday because I want to see

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Speaker 2: I've got to answer to Austin every day.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: How about that high praise from Greg? You good with

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Speaker 3: Howie Roseman, sure, come on over. How I saw by

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Speaker 2: Nope, unfathomous, remarkable. Uh, let me tell you, let me

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Speaker 2: it has Dexter Lawrence coming to the Cincinnati Bengals. Man,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Giants would make Like, if

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Speaker 3: eight years old. So it's like, you know, it fits

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Speaker 2: Bring him in and it's a and it's at a

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Speaker 2: can provide value for you on the interior defensive line,

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Speaker 2: which again you're talking about Dexter Lawrence. It's a good year,

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Speaker 2: it says to need John Franklin Myers. It's a bad

435
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Speaker 2: year to get an impactful defensive tackle on third downs.

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Speaker 2: That again, and these are free agents, so that I

437
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Speaker 2: kind of tied that into what James talked about of Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: if it's a bad year and free agency for it, well,

439
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Speaker 2: now's the time to get one in free agent, or

440
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Speaker 2: now is the time I'm go to get one via trade.

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Speaker 2: Those are the types and I feel like these are

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Speaker 2: the types of conversations that have to be had by

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. For what it's worth. A quarterback, it's

444
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Speaker 2: a good year if you need Fernando Mendoza. It's a

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Speaker 2: bad year if you need anything else. That's kind of

446
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Speaker 2: where the quarterback market is going into this year. Tight End,

447
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Speaker 2: good year for the undersized tight end, bad year for

448
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Speaker 2: any significant blocking tight ends. Bengals don't need that. They've

449
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Speaker 2: got that on lockdown. Wide receiver was interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: Feeling you're being sarcastic, yes, wide receiver was interesting to me.

451
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Speaker 2: It's a good year to need bodies in the bullpen

452
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Speaker 2: depth at the wide receiver position. Bad year if you

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Speaker 2: need an elite wide receiver. Would you categorize the Bengals

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Speaker 2: as needing some depth at the position? We talked about

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Speaker 2: wide receiver three a lot YEP, that could make sense.

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Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, we've done mocked drafts Austin where we talk

457
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Speaker 2: about the offensive tackle position, maybe at number ten, depending

458
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Speaker 2: on what the Bengals do between now and the draft.

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Speaker 2: According to Sola, like it's a good year if you

460
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Speaker 2: need a starter for twenty twenty seven, but a bad

461
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Speaker 2: year if you need one for twenty twenty six. So

462
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Speaker 2: guy you can develop, guy you take for maybe depth

463
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Speaker 2: right now to turn into that guy out a later

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Speaker 2: point for you. Linebacker, I think another need for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: This is the good news. It's a good year an

466
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Speaker 2: NFL free agency. If you need a difference maker at linebacker.

467
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Speaker 2: It's a bad year if you need a difference maker

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Speaker 2: and you don't have a top ten pick. But again,

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Speaker 2: now we're talking about linebacker also can be a position

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Speaker 2: of need for the Cincinnati Bengals. And if you are

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Speaker 2: taking James advice and Jeremiah Love is in play at

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Speaker 2: running back, it's a good year to need a starting

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Speaker 2: running back. It's a bad year to need a young

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Speaker 2: running back to start for the next four years. There

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Speaker 2: you go, Okay, now we know tie this back to

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Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence. It's not a great defensive interior defensive line class.

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Speaker 2: Dexter Lwrence can play the run, in the pass. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what's the best way to describe Dexter Lawrence for those

479
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Speaker 2: that don't know, just game wrecker at every level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's got thirty sacks in his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: He is somebody that you basically have to double team.

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Speaker 3: He can be on the field in every down.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, he's six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a beast in the run game, one of

485
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Speaker 3: the strongest players in the NFL. Yeah, he's an every

486
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Speaker 3: down guy that immediately makes you better. You got a

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Speaker 3: double team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now he only this what's interesting? Do you worry

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Speaker 2: at all about this season? In twenty twenty four Austin

490
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Speaker 2: he only played twelve games, he had nine sacks. Last

491
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Speaker 2: year in seventeen games, he had a half sack. Do

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Speaker 2: you worry at all about that? If you're Dexter Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: does that maybe allow you to maybe get a little

494
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Speaker 2: bit better value or is this just the product of

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Speaker 2: the guys on a bad football team.

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Speaker 3: I think he's on a bad football team, but mostly

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Speaker 3: on a good defense. Yeah, maybe there's a little bit

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Speaker 3: of that. And like you said, he's getting doubled every time. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I've had in large part twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've had some issues with their injuries on the edge.

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Speaker 3: So now I think it could help the price. I'm

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Speaker 3: not giving up on a twenty eight year old with

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Speaker 3: that kind of production.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a break, we'll come back, We'll continue

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Speaker 2: a little NFL conversation, talk some baseball as well. This

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Speaker 2: leads up to Charlie Goldsmith at one o'clock, and your

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Speaker 2: phone calls next and still to come, five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 2: move along. Charlie Goldsmith up ahead at one o'clock. Your talkbacks'

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Speaker 2: still got Tom Glad, Bob Manjeen Moegger all scheduled for

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Speaker 2: today's show between now and three o'clock. John is calling

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Speaker 2: in right now. It's up John, Good.

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Speaker 5: Afternoon, fellas.

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 2: We're hanging in there.

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Speaker 8: Love the Rejoin music. I mean it sounds like a

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Speaker 8: nineteen seventies cop show or something like, you know, we

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Speaker 8: throw everything out there, ko Jack or something like that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm anxious. I'm I'm sixty two, So when

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Speaker 8: I make these references, you probably look at each other

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Speaker 8: and know, what the hell is this guy talking about.

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Speaker 2: I can see that the police music, though I like this, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, like they're moving along. They're trying to,

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Speaker 8: you know, get some information from someone, and they're staring

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Speaker 8: out the window and they're doing all their stuff. The

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Speaker 8: Dexta larn stuff is interesting. He had a really down

533
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Speaker 8: year last year and he's surrounded by talent with the Giants.

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Speaker 8: But you know, again, that may get hitto Cincinnati for

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Speaker 8: not having to give up a first round pick. The

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Speaker 8: player that really interests me is the same age as

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Speaker 8: Justin Simmons. I think the Giants are closer to contending

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Speaker 8: than Tennessee, so the Giants may not want to part

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Speaker 8: with next to Lawrence, especially coming off a season with

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Speaker 8: a half a sack, where Tennessee is probably a couple

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Speaker 8: of years away, if ever, from contending. So that might

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Speaker 8: play into that. But Simons or Lawrence absolutely what you

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Speaker 8: need tailor downs, obviously we're all kind of hoping for

544
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Speaker 8: is there at number ten. And as far as the

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Speaker 8: edge rusher, a boy from the Chargers is the guy

546
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Speaker 8: who had three sacks against the Patriots in the wildcard round,

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Speaker 8: and it seemed like everybody had three sacks against the

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Speaker 8: Patriots in the playoffs, but he he is a physical

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Speaker 8: specimen I mean, so if you could add him to

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Speaker 8: the edge, next to Lawrence in the middle, or of

551
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Speaker 8: course Justin Simmons or tailored down, now you've really upgraded

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Speaker 8: the defense. But I agree with you, guys wide receive

553
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Speaker 8: the three would be a really, really nice addition as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a sneaky position that not a

555
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Speaker 2: lot of people are talking about. As it pertains to

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Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence last year faced one of the highest double

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Speaker 2: team rates in the NFL seventy four point nine percent

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Speaker 2: of snaps he saw a double team. So that and

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, John, that's on a very good defense.

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Speaker 2: So you're dealing with other defenders on that New York

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Speaker 2: Giants front who pose a lot of problems. And yet

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Speaker 2: you look across the board, nearly three out of every

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Speaker 2: four snaps, teams are deciding that Dexter Lawrence was the

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Speaker 2: guy that needed to be double teamed, not Brian Burns,

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Speaker 2: not any of the other Keon Thibodeaux or any of

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Speaker 2: those other guys. It was Dexter Lawrence. But to your point,

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Speaker 2: a team that might not be as close and is

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Speaker 2: looking to acquire more assets, maybe at Justin Simmons and

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans makes sense as well. I just I

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Speaker 2: think there are so many options out there available outside

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Speaker 2: of just a free agent pool, and it ties in

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Speaker 2: that what we've talked about all along of how the

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Speaker 2: Bengals need to go about this and how creative they

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Speaker 2: need to be. It's not just about spending the money

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Speaker 2: you have, but are you willing to move on from

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Speaker 2: assets in upcoming years in order to try to win

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Speaker 2: in this window right now with the core talent that

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Speaker 2: you have.

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Speaker 8: So true, because when you look at free agency, I've

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Speaker 8: already has this philosophy. Sure, the Bengals got Trade Hendrickson

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Speaker 8: back in twenty twenty one and was tremendous value. But

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Speaker 8: sometimes you can really build your depth with free agency

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Speaker 8: because oftentimes it's just too costly. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 8: that the Bengal shouldn't spend money. They should spend money

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Speaker 8: with the team they have right now to try to

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Speaker 8: get back to the super Bowl. But oftentimes you have

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Speaker 8: to trade for someone because that's the player that's twenty seven,

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Speaker 8: that's the player's twenty eighth that's still in his prime.

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Speaker 8: You may have to give up a second round pick,

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Speaker 8: but so be it. You're getting someone you know who's

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Speaker 8: going to step.

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Speaker 2: In and do the job.

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Speaker 8: And as far as Kale Downs, I think you probably

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Speaker 8: could pull one hundred thousand people in Cincinnati and eighty

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Speaker 8: thousand would probably say that's the.

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Speaker 2: Guy you want.

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Speaker 8: Would really tie that secondary together. Now your defense is

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Speaker 8: at league viable and you tweet the offense and.

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Speaker 2: You go from there.

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Speaker 8: Because as we saw this year, and I really believe

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Speaker 8: the next five years in the AFC might be different

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Speaker 8: quarterbacks taking turns getting to the super Bowl, you know,

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Speaker 8: I mean for fourteen fifteen years, it's felt like as

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Speaker 8: Bradier Mahomes, well, well this year we saw Drake manybe

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Speaker 8: Next year hopefully it's Jill Burrow the year after that,

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Speaker 8: maybe shosh Allen. You may see us string of quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: that go once and then maybe go back later on

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Speaker 8: in their career, not as dominance we saw from Brady

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Speaker 8: and Patrick Hollins.

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Speaker 2: And the trade aspect is unique because, let's face it,

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Speaker 2: you are at times you're going to see the elite

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Speaker 2: players reach free agency, but a lot of times there

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Speaker 2: is a reason a player is reaching free agency, whether

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Speaker 2: it's age or fit or price tag. You can get

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Speaker 2: around that creatively when you talk about the trade market

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Speaker 2: and finding potential suitors, and not just suitors, but organizations

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Speaker 2: who are at different parts of their process than maybe

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Speaker 2: what you are. Maybe a team that views themselves as

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Speaker 2: four or five years away or three or four years away,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to a team that is literally trying to

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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl next year. I think that's where

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Speaker 2: you can separate yourself this offseason if you're the Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, to scour those rosters and see who might be available.

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Speaker 8: And again it always goes back to the fact that

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Speaker 8: they are always on the chair with a small scouting department,

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Speaker 8: And now you know you're just going up against numbers

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Speaker 8: where the Ravens have thirty five scouts and the Browns

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Speaker 8: have thirty one scouts and the Bengals have eight.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 8: So and obviously they use their coaches to Scott a lot,

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Speaker 8: which is asking a lot because his coaches should be

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Speaker 8: coaching as much as anything.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, that.

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Speaker 8: That's also a part of it. But I don't think

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Speaker 8: the defense.

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Speaker 2: Is that far off.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's going to be the two thousand

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Speaker 8: and two Buccaneers with just a couple of tweaks, But

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Speaker 8: I think it defense could be if it could be

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Speaker 8: middle of the world with that offense, sure, then I

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Speaker 8: think you absolutely have a chance to fulfill all the

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Speaker 8: dreams that all Bengals fans should have. Hella is always

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Speaker 8: great talking to to.

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Speaker 2: You have a great weekend, you too, One more here

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Speaker 2: and then we'll get a break in. What's that Mike?

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Speaker 2: All right? We don't have Mike. To John's point of

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Speaker 2: they're awesome if you are. If you're rebuilding the Bengals

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Speaker 2: in how you view is what Greg said, your GM role,

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Speaker 2: which you're getting ready to be paid by Greg once

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Speaker 2: he gets Elon Musk money be huge as you're rebuilding

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Speaker 2: the team. How much are you looking into free agency

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Speaker 2: or how much creativity do you need in finding maybe

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Speaker 2: one or two trade partners? And in your state what

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Speaker 2: I'm always interested in. There are organizations that value future

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Speaker 2: draft picks and organizations that don't. Would you be one

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Speaker 2: of those that values a future second a future third

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Speaker 2: round pick, or are you living more in the moment

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Speaker 2: saying I want what I can get now, I'll figure

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Speaker 2: out the picks later. I'm willing to part ways with him.

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Speaker 3: I don't I value picks in the first and second round.

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Speaker 3: I don't value much after that when it comes to

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Speaker 3: future picks. So I would be willing to trade off

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Speaker 3: some of those. I don't know that it takes an

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Speaker 3: overwhelming amount of create activity. Like how many times have

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Speaker 3: we seen a trade happens and then it's like, wow,

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Speaker 3: that's all they got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense that that's.

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Speaker 3: The thing Like sometimes and obviously it works both ways.

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Speaker 3: Is if you're the Bengals, you gotta be Okay, a

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Speaker 3: fifth round pick, just take it. We'll take the player, yep,

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Speaker 3: you know, and don't be so you know, worried about that.

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Speaker 2: But even even to it a dexter lawrence, they've just

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Speaker 2: not You've not hit on enough draft picks to say, ah,

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Speaker 2: this this second round pick's too important, I'll go get

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Speaker 2: the proven guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They had a plan and it hasn't worked, and so

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Speaker 3: you have to be able and be willing to move

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Speaker 3: off of that plan and be a little bit more creative.

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Speaker 3: We've been asking them to be more active in the

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Speaker 3: trade market for years and it just hasn't happened as much.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that happens with Trey Henderson and maybe the

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Speaker 3: Flacco thing was a jumping off point. Hell, they did

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Speaker 3: make an nd season trade with UH with Khalil Herbert

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, although it was just because

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Speaker 3: they absolutely had nobody else to play. So you want

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Speaker 3: them to operate from a proactive mindset instead of a

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Speaker 3: preventative mindset. So like Flacco, they had to have him. Herbert,

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Speaker 3: they had to have him because they didn't have other

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Speaker 3: people who could play that position. Why don't you go

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Speaker 3: and get a starter in you know that from you

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Speaker 3: know one of those players like bj Hill for example,

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Speaker 3: they went out and traded a guy that they were

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Speaker 3: done with and Billy Price and got a dude who

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Speaker 3: came in and started for you in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They can do it, They have done it. Do it again.

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Speaker 3: And to answer the first part of your question is

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Speaker 3: not new news. We've talked about it a lot this

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Speaker 3: offseason over the last seven weeks. You have to be

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Speaker 3: active in free agency. You have the cap space to

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Speaker 3: be able to do it. You have a myriad of

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Speaker 3: needs in which you can address multiple of them without

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Speaker 3: taking up all of your cap space, and your positioned

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Speaker 3: in the draft where you can help your defense or

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Speaker 3: put your off or put your team as a whole

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Speaker 3: in a position to take the best player available. So

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Speaker 3: it's it's not like they're trying to reinvent the wheel here, right.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they're the New Orleans Saints who are

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Speaker 3: dealing with all these cap issues, or the Kansas City

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Speaker 3: Chiefs that are dealing with all these cap issues. It's

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Speaker 3: pretty straightforward what the Bengals need to do.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the idea of, like you mentioned, you

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Speaker 2: know what, you had your plan? Awesome, the plan? Has

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Speaker 2: it worked? Are you willing to say, hand up, it

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Speaker 2: hasn't worked. Dev eight from that and act in a

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Speaker 2: nature of urgency this upcoming offseason. That's that is and

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Speaker 2: it will continue to be the keyword for me, is

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Speaker 2: this team acting with urgency and how they address this offseason,

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Speaker 2: the urgency that this upcoming season that needs to be

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Speaker 2: the season they need to get back to where they

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Speaker 2: need to be. What can you do between now and

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Speaker 2: then to get there. Let's take a break, we'll come back.

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