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Speaker 2: This is the Mark Madden Show. You like it, you

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Speaker 2: love it, you want more of it, or maybe you don't.

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Speaker 1: Who knows? Follow me on Twitter at Mark Madden X.

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Speaker 2: I was in red Bank, New Jersey the last couple

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Speaker 2: of days, right by Newark. Saw Robert Plant Monday night.

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Speaker 2: When I saw him at Wheeling last year, it was

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Speaker 2: my favorite concert of twenty twenty five. Now this show

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Speaker 2: at Red Bank and it changed a little bit bit,

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Speaker 2: is my favorite concert so far of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Another breaking classic rock news.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: A New Stones album in a couple weeks and they're

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Speaker 2: calling it the last Rolling Stones album ever. And then

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Speaker 2: there's gonna be a tour, which I assume will be

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Speaker 2: the last Rolling Stones tour ever. But with Jagger, I mean,

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Speaker 2: he still moves like Jagger, as the song says, I

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Speaker 2: hate to assume anything. Gonna talk a lot about the

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Speaker 2: Penguins today, Gonna talk a lot about the Griffin contract.

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Speaker 2: I hear that this is a golden era of Pittsburgh sports.

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Speaker 2: That's where being told overreact much what a golden era

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Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh sports? Because all three teams are okay, and

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Speaker 2: the draft is gonna be here. You're gonna hate the draft,

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Speaker 2: and okay, these three teams, it's just.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no better.

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Speaker 2: The Penguins were legit contenders from way through eighteen and

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Speaker 2: won three Cups. That is a golden era. The Pirates

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs in thirteen, fourteen, and fifteen, that is

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Speaker 2: a golden era. Heck, the Steelers in the seventies, Ben

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Speaker 2: Roethlisberger's prime, those were golden eras. Right now, the three teams,

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they're okay. Pirates are better, finally, Penguin

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Speaker 1: In the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Steelers, they've been just okay for a heck of a

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Speaker 2: long time. It's not golden Oh, speaking of the draft,

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Speaker 2: how about Fernando Mendoza won't be at the draft in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna stay at home in Miami with friends and family.

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Speaker 2: How does the NFL allow that to happen? Why wouldn't

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Speaker 2: you have made sure weeks ago, months ago, that him

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Speaker 2: being the first pick overall, that he's gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: The draft has become this premiere, big deal, made for

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Speaker 2: TV event for the NFL, and now the number one

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Speaker 2: he gets picked the NFL. It's too big to fail,

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Speaker 2: but it ain't run that great. This is like an

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Speaker 2: episode of Breaking Bad where Walter White just doesn't show up.

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Speaker 2: He let somebody else sell the meth. I'm joining now

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Speaker 2: after what you were here last week?

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Speaker 1: Right, Tom? No, I was not here last week? How

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Speaker 1: did that go without me? It was good? Paul was

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Speaker 1: in on Monday. It was a good show. Then I

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Speaker 1: hosted yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Tom McMillan is calling me on the air. Hold on, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm on the air. Why aren't you listening? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm actually on their I'll call you back, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Tom McMillan.

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Speaker 3: Folks started going in with an actual conversation there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I something about Gettysburg under siege again.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know exactly, but anyway, so the

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Speaker 2: last two days without.

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Speaker 1: Me, I mean, how could it go well without me?

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, you know, I just feel like

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Speaker 3: I had to say that I did miss you dearly

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Speaker 3: after being gone for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: In a row. Shut up, pause? The baby baby's doing great?

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Speaker 1: How come the you're off two weeks? Two weeks? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is that like the the the longest you could for paternity.

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Speaker 3: How about this. I found this out just the other day.

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Speaker 3: I get technically six weeks of paternity leave here through.

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Speaker 1: Well, why are you here? I don't know I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come back. I love the sport of radio Mark.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, but I heard you say that before I

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Speaker 2: flew back from Newark. I just said, Okay, handle it

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Speaker 2: for four more weeks. I'll go on tour with Robert Plan.

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Speaker 2: Although Monday night might have been the last night or

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Speaker 2: close to the last night of the tour. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about. We digress. I can't

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Speaker 2: even find my list of things to peruse. But what

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Speaker 2: did you make in the Griffin contract? Like I keep saying?

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Speaker 2: And the Pirates are playing right now, so we probably

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Speaker 2: shouldn't talk pirates. But if this show's gone to hell anyway,

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Speaker 2: and not just because the last two days, but but uh,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I can't praise Nutting for long last

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Speaker 2: doing what they should have been doing for how long

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Speaker 2: with how many players?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they should have done this with Skemes two

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Speaker 3: Yes, this feels a little gross to be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: supposed to do as an owner. So let's throw home

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Speaker 3: a parade and give him his flowers and say, oh,

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Speaker 3: is he a better owner actually than Art Runy?

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Speaker 1: The second?

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Speaker 3: Is he actually not that bad of an owner? Like,

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Speaker 3: let's pump the brakes a little. He might be that

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Speaker 1: Art.

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Speaker 3: Art's not exactly covered himself and glory, but the victory

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Speaker 2: We no, and what's the Pirate fans are such marks

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Speaker 2: in that like last year they were channing sell the

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Speaker 2: team and demanding that Ben Sharingson be fired, and now

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Speaker 2: they're they're trusting these two guys to take the team

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Speaker 2: to the next leven follow through what got started, you know,

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Speaker 2: with admittedly some good spending in the offseason and now

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Speaker 2: this Griffin contract.

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Speaker 1: But I don't trust those two.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust them either, And to me, I don't

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Speaker 3: think Bob Nutting just you know, woke up all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, after enough planes flew over the stadium saying

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Speaker 3: into it all of a sudden. I think he knows

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Speaker 3: the salary floors on the horizon, and he knows that

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Speaker 3: if that goes through and the team's salary is way

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Speaker 2: You think you think they're really going to get a

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Speaker 2: cap and a floor, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he at least thinks that it's a possibility.

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Speaker 2: Now to assume that, because you can all like these contracts,

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Speaker 2: you could always backtrack from them in a few years.

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Speaker 1: You tried to win for the short term.

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Speaker 3: And doesn't that make more sense than Bob Nutting all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm not ruling out, though, that this is legit, because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, when you're a career heel that babyface

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Speaker 3: He got it though from thirteen to fifteen, and as

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Speaker 3: So I thought he was just gonna sour forever after that.

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Speaker 1: Well you make it.

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Speaker 2: You make a great point about hedging the bet against

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Speaker 2: the possibility of a floor, because if the floor just

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Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere, then again, don't you think stuff's

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Speaker 2: going to be grand fathered in? Well, the floor won't be, no,

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there's gonna be a cap period.

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Speaker 2: I just think owners will hold firm against that.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's a fear factor maybe going on

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Speaker 3: And like you said, if that doesn't come to pass

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Speaker 3: of these contracts whenever he wants to can trade them. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: Griffin won't be hard to trade. Now, Now, who's Griffin

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Speaker 3: gonna be? Derek Jeter or Cidy Crosby. That's a tough question.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say maybe a little bit of stan usual.

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Speaker 3: Actually am I allowed to go there?

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Speaker 3: I just try to think of an ancient baseball player

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Speaker 3: I have seen like every nineteen year old kid that's

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Speaker 3: You got your Harper's, your Ken Griffrey juniors. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if Jeter was nineteen or not. He might have been,

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Speaker 3: but like almost all of them go through a rod.

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Speaker 3: So I'm pretty optimistic that he'll become an All star perennially.

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Speaker 3: But can you ever just assume in the sport of

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Speaker 3: The busts happen all the time too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's gonna be really good. And I

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Speaker 2: think they did do the right thing with this contract.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think we got we got some sign

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Speaker 2: later what what's your name? Michelle Smallman from ESPN Radio

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Speaker 2: thinks that he did the wrong thing, and part of

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Speaker 2: Although like they can get out of the deal by

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Speaker 2: I'm glad they did it. I just don't trust the

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Speaker 2: hillbilly as far as I can smoke his corncot pipe. Uh,

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Speaker 2: all right, we'll have more. We got some Penguins talk

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Speaker 2: coming up. I haven't done this show in two days.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've never done it before. What do

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Speaker 1: One oh five nine, It's the Woody Show. Pretty cool,

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Speaker 1: super cool.

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Speaker 4: One nine Hey, Pittsburgh Clearview Federal Credit Union is now

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Speaker 4: open near Market Square.

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Speaker 2: Right, Mitch Keller was six shot out of nings, but

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Speaker 2: then he gave way to Lawrence coming out of the bullpen,

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Speaker 2: and now it's too nil. San Diego in the top

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Speaker 2: of the seventh uh weird pirate lineup today. Connor Griffin

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Speaker 2: signed the deal, then didn't get put in the lineup,

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Speaker 2: and they get it off day tomorrow. You give it

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Speaker 2: a nineteen year old kid two off days in a row,

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Speaker 2: and he had two hits yesterday after not having had

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Speaker 2: a hit since opening day?

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Speaker 1: Why dressed them? To me? That doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: But then again, nor does what what I saw on

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Speaker 2: Twitter A line of people to get Bob Nuttings autograph

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Speaker 2: at PNCES. Like I said, it is a heady brew

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Speaker 2: and you were channing sell the team last September October

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Speaker 2: at the stadium, and now you won his autograph. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get that there's optimism, but boy, you're so easily duped.

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Speaker 2: H the first died of the show has always brought

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Speaker 2: to us by Sndorovich, Shndorovitch and Fishman H. Tom. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad Griffin signed. I'm glad he got the two hits.

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Speaker 2: But it is kind of funny that when he didn't

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Speaker 2: good even when he's not. Like he got a single

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Speaker 3: Eggs of velocity, stuff, right, the same things that they

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Speaker 1: We're just friends.

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Speaker 3: You think it's gonna happen here. You think we're seeing

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Speaker 2: See, that's a real good question. What if Rabel and

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Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, she'll probably infiltrate the Bills practices and report

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Speaker 1: That's pillow talk. Yeah, report back to exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like Josh Allen was limping buddy left ankle. Uh, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what else do we got? We got Penguins talk, we

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow nights, the Pens take on the Devils. Game time

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Morishof's practicing with the penguin. Skinner got

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Are they taking a good look, are they wondering what if?

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Speaker 2: Penguins had some team awards announced. Carlson team MVP. That's

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Tommy Hockey.

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Speaker 2: Tom, you don't think there's any way they would adjust

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Speaker 3: and doesn't seem like Skinner is gonna be serious.

439
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Speaker 1: In fact, it feels like it's trending.

440
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 3: If he had to play thirst they like had to

441
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: Skinner could probably be in net against the Devils.

442
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: I wonder if they'll give a more Shoff a look

443
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 2: if Skinner just one game, why not, right?

444
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 3: I wish that someone would treat Skinner somewhat like the

445
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 3: guy in Beerfest Too, where they just kept giving him

446
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 3: the shiner over and over again for motivation, like just

447
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: to kneel down and from the door handle or something

448
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: like that.

449
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,640
Speaker 1: Well, he hurt the thing.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't mind starting Skinner the playoff because he was

451
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,360
Speaker 2: in the last two finals with Edmonton. Yeah, and there

452
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: is a track record there with him. But if Skinner

453
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,199
Speaker 2: got hurt, I would go right to Moreshaw instead if

454
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: she likes I just I mean, I know she lofts

455
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: with the run he had for Vancouver a couple of

456
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: years back, and he won the AHL Championship last year,

457
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 2: and he's played well for Latvia. But but ain't none

458
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 2: of that really applies. And I think he's just good

459
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: for a bad goal or two every game.

460
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Speaker 3: It is so tempting to hit that Mirshov switch because

461
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: I think if you gamble that way and it pays off,

462
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: and he plays outstanding like he could, then you could

463
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 3: really make it to the Eastern Conference final.

464
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Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I think they're gonna go

465
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Speaker 1: with Skinner, and that's a fine movie. You're right.

466
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: He got to the finals two straight years, and I

467
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: guess someone's devil's advocate would be like, well, that was

468
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 3: with Edmonton.

469
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Speaker 1: They had a ton of firepower. They were winning games.

470
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: You know, five to four. Penguins have the second most

471
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: goals in the NHL this year. It's basically one of

472
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Speaker 3: the same teams that Skinner's goaltending for.

473
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Speaker 2: You know why they're scoring so many because they have

474
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 2: to because they have goalies. Yeah, yeah, they just I

475
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: mean there was second second most goals four I think

476
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Speaker 2: it's the seventh most goals against.

477
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and third goals average three point five to five

478
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: average per game. It's unbelievable. They're filling it up. So

479
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: Skinner has led a team like that for two straight

480
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: years to the Cup.

481
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Speaker 2: Does the prospect of facing the Flyers frighten you at all?

482
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: Because that's a big, tough team on the rise. Now,

483
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 2: now the two things that make me optimistic playing them,

484
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: And it's not set in stone, but it's it's pretty likely.

485
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: Although I don't know. I mean, Columbus is only two

486
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: points behind. A lot could still happen, but A there

487
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 2: are no shootouts in the playoffs, Steve Flyers are great

488
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: at those, and the Penguins suck b The Flyers goaltending

489
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: might be worse than the Penguins, and the sid kills

490
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: the Flyers.

491
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Speaker 1: So I'd say Pens in six.

492
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a healthy fear of the Flyers, but

493
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: I like it. I want that kind of fear. That's

494
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 3: who I want in the first round. I think it's storybook.

495
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 3: Capitals would have been the only other one, another sid

496
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Speaker 3: in Ov series that I would say. Penguins return to

497
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they see Washington in Round one. How perfect

498
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: is that? But Penguins Flyers, I mean, that's what I'm

499
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 3: hoping for. I do think the Penguins are the better team.

500
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: I do think they would end up winning that series

501
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: as well. I just don't know why you wouldn't want that.

502
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,479
Speaker 3: As a Penguins fan, I guess I kind of hear

503
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: the argument of all, what if you lose to the Flyers,

504
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 3: that would just really suck. If you lose to the

505
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 3: Blue Jackets, that's gonna suck too. No, no, not like

506
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 3: losing it'll suck though. I don't want to lose the

507
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 3: Columbus either. I don't want to lose to the Islanders

508
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: again either. In the playoffs. It sucks no matter who

509
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 3: you lose to. And it's so sweet when you beat

510
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: the Flyers.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, don't get me wrong if that.

512
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in whoever you play is whoever

513
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: you play.

514
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 1: And they are the proverbial hot team right that you

515
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: don't want to play.

516
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: There's still like a week till the playoffs, half to

517
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs start. I mean, you know you can cool off,

518
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: you can get even hotter. Uh do you agree? That

519
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: Eric Carlson getting the Penns Team MVP is what's best

520
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: for business on top of being accurate.

521
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 3: Yes, and the second part, I mean, he clearly was

522
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: the team MVP this year, but with Sid missing the

523
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: time that he did, there's no way they would have

524
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: survived and stayed in a playoff spot before he returned,

525
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: without Carlson even elevating his play more so in that span.

526
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: And then Sid came back, and Carlson has still just

527
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 3: been such a force. He probably could get seventy points

528
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: this year. I think once he at sixty four right now,

529
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 3: with four games left, there's a chance that he could

530
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: get to seventy. He should be no lower than fifth

531
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: in the Norris voting ballot. He should finish fifth place

532
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: or maybe even slightly higher.

533
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Speaker 1: It's incredible. I don't know.

534
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you got, you got mccarrrensky, but he's gonna

535
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs.

536
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: I bet Schafer finishes his head at Carlson.

537
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: Probably just because of the rookie soup or yeah, exactly

538
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: in Carlson, I mean, yeah, new flavor.

539
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope he gets fifth.

540
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: But but the mine is he's had a great season

541
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: and one which I did not see coming after his

542
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: first two being disappointing with the Penguins. Now, as I mentioned,

543
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: Sid extended his record. I'll talk about that at length

544
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: in a moment. But all of his seasons twenty one

545
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: seasons at a point per game, and besides all the

546
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: Gold Medals and Stanley Cups that Sid's calling card. It

547
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: seems impossible, but here he is at thirty eight again

548
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: with a point per game, and it shows that with him,

549
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: consistency and cumulative are are the two things that define him.

550
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really bulletproof because I saw the NHL post

551
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: on one of our social media pages, you know, a

552
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: graphic of Sid and saying here's the list of players

553
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: that have done that in the league's history.

554
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby. That's it.

555
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 3: And you get your typical hate that you do on

556
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: social media where it's like, well, I mean, there's would

557
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: be an asterisk for all the times he was heard

558
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: he only played thirty games, you know, the thirty two points.

559
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: Whudos if he continue that trend, if it was a

560
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 3: fully eighty two game season, blah blah blah blah blah.

561
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: And all you have to say to those clowns is Okay, fine,

562
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: why has no one else done it?

563
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: Then? Why has no one else done it?

564
00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: Then?

565
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 3: Why is he the the only one that's been able

566
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: to do it for twenty one seasons?

567
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Well, McDavid, you know right now has done it for

568
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: I think this is his eleventh season. Okay, and he's

569
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: done it every season so far, But that's still ten

570
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: more season ago go for now, and who knows if

571
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: he'll play that long?

572
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: Who knows if Sid is going to slow down too?

573
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: What if Sid makes it twenty two or twenty three

574
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: seasons of point per game pace?

575
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's a shame Sid lost like one

576
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: hundred games through that concussion problem, because he'd be right

577
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: on I think he needs a buck sixty two or

578
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: sixty three to pass Yoger for number two all time.

579
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: He'd be right on top of him right now, except

580
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: for those hundred games.

581
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the other thing for people that are

582
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 3: arguing that side of the twenty one consecutive season streak,

583
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: 's like, well, he missed a lot of injury. Who

584
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: knows how that season would have panned out when healthy.

585
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: You're talking out of your ass if you think that

586
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: he wasn't just gonna have at least eighty two points

587
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: in a fully healthy season. Back then, in his prime,

588
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: he was ripping the league to shreds until the injury

589
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: slowed him down.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it's like lem youue lemu missed.

591
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: I mean you know it, retired for three and a

592
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: half seasons, took another season on off cancer, made a

593
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: miss half a season. The back problems made him miss

594
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: you know, half a season. And that was in his prime,

595
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: Like he would have scored a thousand goals if not

596
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: for all.

597
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: His guests, no question about. It was the year two

598
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: where he came back and just hauled down Lafontaine and

599
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: ended up winning the art Ross Trophy over him.

600
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety two ninety three season, that was the comeback here. No,

601
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: he played sixty games, sixty games at a hundred it

602
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: was one hundred and sixty points and sixty games. Yeah, yeah,

603
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: just just he Lafontaine never had a chance, that's a way,

604
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: never had a chance. He came back from cancer, trailing

605
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: him by I think it was twenty some points. It

606
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: just is just sprinted by him, just just went just

607
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: straight past. And so hey, you know, I'm writing a

608
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: calumn for the trip about you know, Sid's point per

609
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: game streak and all the things that make him unique.

610
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, there's not a lot of new

611
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: ground covered in the column, but I think it's good

612
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: that we remind ourselves every so often of what we've

613
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: witnessed with him and then prior to.

614
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Speaker 1: That, Mario.

615
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: I have very few regrets about the Penguins, but one

616
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: is we didn't see a big, bigger overlap of Sid

617
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: and Mario.

618
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: No question about it.

619
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: It is still so crazy that you can look back

620
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: and see those pictures of them both on the ice together.

621
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: Though it's it's iconic.

622
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: Sid's eating up to now right, really good weekend against Florida,

623
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: collecting a lot of points, scoring a goal too in

624
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: that game on Sunday, and he's.

625
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: Happy because they're winning. Yeah, Tom, what do you think

626
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: my biggest Penguins regret is.

627
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: For this season?

628
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: You know, all time, all time, biggest Penguins regret. That's

629
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: a tough one for me.

630
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

631
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Well. I mean you can say, well, probably losing to

632
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: the Islanders, blowing the three games to non lean seventy five.

633
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: But you didn't do anything to contribute to No. I

634
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: thought you meant the game you missed or something.

635
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't have any regrets in that

636
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: regarding the ninety three, you know, losing on volg school.

637
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: But you know what really bugs me to this day

638
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: that we changed our colors from blue, black and white

639
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: to black and gold.

640
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I never gone to black and gold. Blue, black and

641
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: white were our colors. And why don't they go back

642
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: to that at all with their alternate jerseys? And they

643
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: did for the Winter Class Winter Classic jersey. Is love

644
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: that jersey. We need to go back to the mid seventies.

645
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Jerseys and then keep them blue, black and white. Wiz

646
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: could write a song one oh five nine.

647
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,800
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648
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840
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649
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,359
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650
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Five The X.

651
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,879
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652
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: They got your back, not your wallet, Tom. What do

653
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: we got for the trifecta?

654
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: For today's trifecta? Mark?

655
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: Everybody is optimistic about the Pirates, and rightfully so, with

656
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 3: the moves that they've made, But I've got three spots

657
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: where they're still pretty deficient. As far as their team

658
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: is concerned, Number three, I'm gonna go with that rotation.

659
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: They're just walking way too many people still, Mark, they

660
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: have fifty one total walks as a total pitching staff,

661
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: and the starters aren't much better. I know Skeins only

662
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: had two walks yesterday. Mitch only had one today, but

663
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: there was four from Chandler the night before. That's gonna

664
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: be a problem for him. There's walking way too many people.

665
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: They need to have better control there.

666
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

667
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: The other one is going to be third base. That's

668
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: just the joke of a position right now for the Pirates,

669
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: Jared Triolo, I guess is your starter Nick York was

670
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: playing third base yesterday. If they're seriously committed like they're

671
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: showing right now, that's like the thing I think they

672
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: circle at the deadline right now.

673
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, they got to improve there.

674
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: I would give York a run of games there, because

675
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: we know Gonzalez is just you know, some punch and

676
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: judy hitter, just like an average glove.

677
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I would see what York's upside is between.

678
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: Now and the deadline, and then if it can't be

679
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: filled by him or somebody else from within, then I

680
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: would make a move.

681
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then my number one one here. I don't

682
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: know if people are going to agree with this, but

683
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 3: it's catcher. I think Henry Davis is a very good

684
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: defensive catcher. But they're just going to have a black

685
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: hole at that spot offensively all year long, aren't they.

686
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost essentially going to be a little

687
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: bit better than a pitcher would have been in that

688
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: ninth spot.

689
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but while you're right, it doesn't matter, Tom because

690
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Chandler and Skeens want.

691
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Davis to catch. I guess that's proceeds all.

692
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: Although I think that is a little bit overrated, and

693
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: I think you should tell some of your pitchers, maybe

694
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: especially Chandler. You know, you catch with whoever we have

695
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: behind the plate, But if you put Bart in there,

696
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: that's not even that much of a drastic increase of

697
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: offense either. They just that's just gonna be their their

698
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: weakest spot, which goes back to the third base thing.

699
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: You can't have two black holes in your lineup, so

700
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: you got to get better at third base.

701
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: Well. I don't like the picture dictating who the catcher is.

702
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: I understand comfort level, but I'll be blunt. It makes

703
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: me wonder whether Skeens and Chandler want Davis there because

704
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: they're comfortable with him as a catcher the game he

705
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: calls pitch framing all that crap, or if he's just

706
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: their buddy.

707
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it might actually be more of that

708
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: ladder and that No, we do, but it does make

709
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: me one. I think that that's definitely fair to think

710
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: that that could be a factor in it, no question

711
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 3: about it.

712
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: But he's just never gonna hit, you know.

713
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: And what a bust of a number one overall pick

714
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: that is, because you don't pick someone one one to

715
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: be a very solid defensive catcher who can pitch frame.

716
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: Well. I like people saying that he's turned out to

717
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: not be a bust because Skeens and Chandler like him,

718
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: and he's better defensively than we thought a one one

719
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: to hit like he hits or rather doesn't hit.

720
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a bust.

721
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: The trifecta brought to us by Danny's petrot Hogi's family

722
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: owned and operated since nineteen sixty.

723
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: That Standy's on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park.

724
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 2: Tom, you see the standings for the NHL Philly killed

725
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: New Jersey last night. I could have gone to that game.

726
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: It was right down the street. I didn't realize I

727
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: was watching it on TV. Pens are second in the Metro,

728
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: Flyers or third. Penn was are four points out of Philly,

729
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: Columbus two points behind the Flyers, the Islanders one point

730
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: behind the Blue Jackets.

731
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: It's going to come down to the last day.

732
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: Which is why, assuming it's going to be Penn's Flyers,

733
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: that that's going a bit far. I think a lot

734
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: is still to be decided. But the Flyers are the

735
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: hot team and the other two aren't.

736
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're heading in opposite directions, that's for sure. You

737
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: do feel comfortable though, with the Penguins being in second

738
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: place right and kind of waiting to see who that

739
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: team is going to be.

740
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: In turn.

741
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure if the Pens win in New Jersey, see,

742
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: that's it. It's a rap. I think they clinch and

743
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: wrap it up for second place. Is concerned. I don't think,

744
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: and oh excuse me, the Flyers could catch them. They

745
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: would clinch. Being top three in the Metro. I believe

746
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: if they just get the win against the New Jersey Devils.

747
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: Penguin's finished second.

748
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: That would at least tell Pittsburgh because then the home

749
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: games would not conflict.

750
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: With the draft, which would just be insane if they

751
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: had to fall into that three spot and then that

752
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: the games three and four were in Pittsburgh coinciding with it.

753
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that logistically it would be possible to

754
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: pull off, but they're not gonna have to because Penguins

755
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: are going to be in that second spot. And it's

756
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: just unbelievable that not only is a team that we

757
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: thought would be looking at lottery position at this time

758
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: when we were looking at the season at the beginning

759
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: of the year, they're going to be sitting in the

760
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: second spot with games to spare, waiting for their opponent.

761
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: It's insane.

762
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, and hopefully Sid and Gino get rested. Hopefully they're

763
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: smart enough to be rested, because you know they won't

764
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: want to, but they can't.

765
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Play the last game. You can't play in Saint Louis.

766
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: No chance. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't even play.

767
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know what though, Sid would never sit what

768
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: might be his last game against OV.

769
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

770
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: I bet you they play against wash Maybe not everybody

771
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: plays against Washington, but there's no any real player against

772
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. I mean, I guess you have to play

773
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: some of them because you got a field team, but

774
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: everybody needs to have Most players need to have a

775
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: night off Gino, Sid, Carlson against the Blues, they don't play.

776
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Now, do you like Chinnakoff on Sid's line, because it's

777
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: different for Sid. I chatted briefly with him about that

778
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: after the Floida game Sunday. It's a lot more attacking

779
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: off the rush more than working Don Lowe. Not that

780
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: Sid's not compatible with that, but it's not what he prefers.

781
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: I love it, to be honest with you, though, I

782
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: think that it's going to be great, and I think

783
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: that while we still have this playoff run coming up,

784
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: to see them work some magic and gel together, I'm

785
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: excited about that next year, Mark because I think that's

786
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: probably what you do next year, don't you? You put

787
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: Chinikoff as Sid's kind of partner on that first line,

788
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

789
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he loves playing with Raquel and Russ, but

790
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: Raquel's played so well at center. But then again, I

791
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: know Raquel's not a center. I mean, I don't know

792
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: what I'd do there, but he's done great at center,

793
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: and boy, he is the hand right now, like a

794
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: goalie game for like what ten to eleven games.

795
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the NHL's number one star last week.

796
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: Do you think him being the second line center is

797
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: so key there? He was probably feeling way too much

798
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: pressure having to fill in for Sid when Sid was

799
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: out on the first line at center. Now that he's

800
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: center too, I feel like maybe he's a little bit easy.

801
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: It's allowed him to ease into that role att bit

802
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 3: more and he's found his goal scoring touch.

803
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: Not only has he fon his goal scoring touch, but

804
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: he's done much better on face offs even like every

805
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: aspect of center. Since Sid got back, he's done better

806
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: at because, like you said, maybe the relaxation factor. But Tom,

807
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: listening to this, here's his goal log dating backwards from

808
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: four to Sunday. Two goals, one goal, one goal, one goal,

809
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: two goals, zero goes, two goals, one goal, zero one.

810
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, like he just keeps scoring. Yeah, it's insane.

811
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: He has what is it, twenty four goals right now

812
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: on the season. Correct.

813
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 3: And I remember like two months ago, right before the

814
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: Olympic break, we were talking about Racks and saying it's

815
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: just been not a good year for him. He's really slow,

816
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: he's not scoring enough, and to be flirting with he's

817
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: not going to get to thirty goals, I don't think

818
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: at least, but to maybe say he gets twenty seven

819
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: goals in these Mexican's three more maybe because he's red

820
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: hot right now. That's just insane production. And he missed

821
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: a significant amount of time with injury too.

822
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: Well, Tommy, nor what I'm concerned about right now? Don't

823
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: you Liverpool Paris Saint Germain Champions League Quarterfinals that begins

824
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: in a few minutes, Sla benched. This is just leg

825
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: one though, right yeah, I think you might underestimate how

826
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: quickly the whole thing can disappear in one leg, this

827
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: game being at Paris and we've not played well.

828
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: But as always I live in hope.

829
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Come on you rad we'll talk more about sid in

830
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: just a moment here on the Home of the Penguins.

831
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: One oh five nine the.

832
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: XJ man Braso just because I think that line has

833
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 3: a little chemistry there, so I wouldn't want to mess

834
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: that up just to keep him in the lineup.

835
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: Good call man, thank you? Eight three three four one

836
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837
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