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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray definitely would sink.

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Speaker 1: On the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: There is a known fact that his stats go down

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Speaker 2: he would be detrimental.

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Speaker 1: Well, the first talkback related Kyler Murray call of duty

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Speaker 1: salvo has been issued. I've been waiting for it, yep.

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Speaker 1: you like your radar? What's the next shoe to drop?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: What's hot to trot with the football team? Is it

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Speaker 1: quarterback a topic? Kyler Murray Talkers and Talkbacks today nine

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Speaker 1: to noon. Is it just waiting or working to get

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Speaker 1: steam on the next shoe to drop in? Good morning?

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Speaker 3: I mean there are several shoes that drop here as

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Speaker 3: Quarterback is certainly the hot topic. It seemed like everybody

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Speaker 3: Coach, he said, oh, yeah, I forgot we some need

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Speaker 1: Manager situation, not diminishing it and making the quarterback the

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah it is. And I mean the other stuff

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Speaker 3: But the quarterback is the A topic because it needs

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Speaker 3: So a lot of conversations about quarterback the combine that

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Speaker 1: Do do your discernment JJ McCarthy, do you feel he

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Speaker 1: Did you did you go searching for Kyler Murray steam

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Speaker 1: I shared this earlier. I had a side conversation with

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Speaker 1: I was told he'd really love to play for the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Have you heard that?

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Speaker 1: Like, does somebody share that he's letting his representation is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was in twenty four if I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm sure some of the pitch to him would be too.

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Speaker 1: Well. So Richardson's branded as a runner. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 3: Like the mock draft, I had them trained up to

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Speaker 3: So would all of those things be fixed? Would all

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Speaker 1: But then you're keeping three on the roster, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 4: Probably I mean, you're not putting a former top five

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Speaker 3: Probably, But I you know, I think they'd figure that

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Speaker 1: See. But with Kyler, the the the natural comparison, at

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Speaker 4: because the franchise tag deadline, I believe is later this afternoon, yep,

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Speaker 4: and that number is forty three million dollars. So if

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Speaker 4: I'm the Colts, I mean, you can tell me if

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Speaker 4: I'm wrong. I think it's insane that they would put

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Speaker 4: the tag on him and forty three million with the Achilles,

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Speaker 4: how that recovery is going to look. Yeah, but similarly,

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Speaker 4: even signing him to a long term deal feels like

442
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Speaker 4: a tenuous act given the fact that they got eleven

443
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Speaker 4: or twelve certainly good games out of them, but still

444
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Speaker 4: a lot of unknowns, like where's your head at in

445
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Speaker 4: relation to Daniel Jones and what his future holds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's difficult. It's an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the transition tag has come up

448
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Speaker 3: with him a little bit too, and I'm trying to

449
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Speaker 3: remember exactly what the number is there. But they seem

450
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Speaker 3: like they want him in the plan. The question is

451
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Speaker 3: at what price given the Allies, because that happened late

452
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Speaker 3: enough in the year that I have to think that's

453
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Speaker 3: going to be a factor going into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could talk about rehab, you could talk

455
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Speaker 3: about Okay, we can get him ready, Yes, but that

456
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Speaker 3: feels like one we've seen it with older quarterbacks Cousins

457
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Speaker 3: and Rogers. You know, Jones is still in his late twenties.

458
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Speaker 3: But how trustworthy is that is that heel? How trustworthy

459
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Speaker 3: is that base as you're trying to come back from it?

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Speaker 3: I think that's always the thing that's a little bit

461
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Speaker 3: of an unknown until you get back on the field.

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Speaker 3: So I think as you're making a commitment to a

463
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Speaker 3: guy like that, that's going to factor into it. That's

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Speaker 3: why I would think the franchise tag is probably a

465
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Speaker 3: little tough to imagine, especially when you are I'm sure

466
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Speaker 3: going to be thinking we have to have an alternative

467
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Speaker 3: to him and the vent that he's not ready. So

468
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Speaker 3: I mean all this risk management, yeah, they do, they do.

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Speaker 4: Oh what, there's a rively letter name pat down there

470
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Speaker 4: in Indy. Yeah, who kind of had to step in

471
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Speaker 4: and made some Notre dame, notre dame, but man the

472
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Speaker 4: past path forward for Daniel. Good for him if he

473
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Speaker 4: finds his way to forty million bucks.

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Speaker 1: Dolly cats Well, yeah, I mean Derek Carr legitimately is

475
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Speaker 1: in the conversation. I heard that name more than I

476
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Speaker 1: thought it was kind of at the Combine. Well, I

477
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Speaker 1: mean into the combine, it had been reported that, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: he would be interested for the right kind of team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember what happened to him and why

481
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Speaker 1: I retired. Yeah, And and you know, it's like the

482
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Speaker 1: first interal injury. Is one of the first interviews I

483
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Speaker 1: did at the Combine on Tuesday, I'm talking about the

484
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and everything. It might have been Jordan Reid with ESPN,

485
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Speaker 1: and he brings up Geno Smith. Yeah, and I'm like, okay,

486
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Speaker 1: I saw the name, like Gino Smith. Okay, where did

487
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Speaker 1: that come from? So started looking into it a little bit,

488
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Speaker 1: looking into the style of play five step seven step drop.

489
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Speaker 1: Didn't realize how much presence and how much leadership he

490
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Speaker 1: naturally has in the locker room with the guys, all right,

491
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Speaker 1: that matters, Yes it does. And he's he's a straight

492
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Speaker 1: drop pocket guy who can slide decently in the pocket

493
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Speaker 1: and can protect himself well enough. At the stage of

494
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Speaker 1: his career. I didn't realize how good his arm was. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize what those backdoor dagger cuts and things

496
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Speaker 1: middle of the field, attacking middle zones and getting safeties

497
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Speaker 1: to move and stuff. All right. I didn't know it

498
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Speaker 1: was good at that either. Yeah, so that's all just

499
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Speaker 1: really elevated for me if if he becomes available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of what you just laid

502
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Speaker 3: out there makes a lot of sense. Because he has

503
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Speaker 3: played in offenses and has tape in offenses. That's like, okay,

504
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: this concept translates to what the Vikings want to do.

505
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: And with Kyler there's a little more of a projection there,

506
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Speaker 3: I think, and you could say, yeah, we see enough

507
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Speaker 3: here kind of like we're talking about we see enough

508
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Speaker 3: here that we can mold into our offense and build

509
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Speaker 3: an offense that works.

510
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Speaker 1: But with Gino it's.

511
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Speaker 3: Probably a little more of a yeah, this stuff is

512
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: very familiar to him already, and these types of throws

513
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: are very familiar. The other thing with him is he's

514
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Speaker 3: the type of player that if you felt good enough

515
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Speaker 3: about JJ and you wanted to move on from Gino Smith,

516
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Speaker 3: that there's not going to be this attachment this well,

517
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Speaker 3: you know, are we saying goodbye to five or six

518
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Speaker 3: years more of high level play because this guy's still

519
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Speaker 3: in his late twenties.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the questions you had with Donald.

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Speaker 3: With Daniel Jones, I think some of those things come

522
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Speaker 3: up a little more with a high level quarterback who's

523
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Speaker 3: not on the back nine of his career, so to speak.

524
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Speaker 3: So I think there'd be a little less of that

525
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Speaker 3: question with Geno, which means it's maybe a little more

526
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Speaker 3: of a utilitarian option for them. Turnovers with him are

527
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Speaker 3: a question. I think that would be something they'd have

528
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Speaker 3: to figure out. But that's that was Donald's case too.

529
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Speaker 3: I mean that's in Donald led the NFL and turnovers

530
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Speaker 3: and just won the Super Bowl. Yeah, and Cousins. The

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Speaker 3: year that he was with O'Connell, the turnover numbers went up,

532
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Speaker 3: and some of it is they look at some of

533
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Speaker 3: that as the cost of doing business. They're not going

534
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Speaker 3: to say, oh, we need a guy throw four picks

535
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Speaker 3: a year or five picks a year, and anything more

536
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Speaker 3: than that is unacceptable. You don't want them. You don't

537
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Speaker 3: want turnover. Certainly, we've heard Kevin O'Connell talk about that

538
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: a lot. But if you're throwing the occasional pick in

539
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Speaker 3: the context of trying to push the ball down field,

540
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Speaker 3: trying to make explosive things happen, I think they'll say

541
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Speaker 3: we can live with it if it's if the decision

542
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 3: was good, and it's just a matter if I try

543
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Speaker 3: to fit something in there. And I was working off

544
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Speaker 3: of this. I don't think anybody's going to lose their

545
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: mind over that over there, So you know, that would

546
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Speaker 3: be the question with him, But there are a lot

547
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Speaker 3: of things with him where it's a little more compatible

548
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Speaker 3: at least at this point with what I see in

549
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Speaker 3: that offense.

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Speaker 1: Describe Ben Gesline at Ben Gaslin via x covers the

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Speaker 1: Vikings for the Star Tribune to Star Tribune dot Com

552
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Speaker 1: around the corner and Eric Wilson question, and I'm also

553
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Speaker 1: the acting general manager for the Minnesota Vikings in my estimation,

554
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: will become the general manager after the draft, and I

555
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Speaker 1: want to run some things by Ben when we return.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back nine to noon.

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Speaker 5: Donald Love Football, Hey Pa, Hey Nordo.

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Speaker 1: Mister squeegee here.

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Speaker 6: I think whom ever they add, whether it's Kyler Murray,

568
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Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr, you name it, I have wholehearted

569
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Speaker 6: confidence in Kevin O'Connell.

570
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Speaker 5: And if he puts that person in there.

571
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Speaker 6: I think this season especially is kind of putting his

572
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 6: job on the shoulders of that person. So if he's

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Speaker 6: got confidence in them, I've got confidence in him.

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Speaker 1: Squeegeye, welcome back, squeege I like the talkback when it

575
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: comes to the like taking O'Connell's future with this new extension,

576
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: and let's just say to whom much is given, much

577
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: certainly is expected, tying it together to the quarterback, and

578
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work the veteran that they purportedly will

579
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: bring in that it could jeopardize his job status.

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00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: I say no, that it wouldn't. Nope, Well, yeah, I

581
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: mean immediately very confident in him. I think the question is, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times can you take a swing

583
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: at the quarterback thing and miss it? And we've seen

584
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: it happen before where people have taken multiple swings and

585
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: kept their jobs for very long times. But I think

586
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: he is aware that when you don't come through on this,

587
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: when you were hired as kind of the quarterback guy

588
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: that you know, there's always that possibility. So I think

589
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: to squeeze twitch the idea that this will be tied

590
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: to him, I'm sure he's aware of that. So yes,

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00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: if he is putting his chips in with a guy

592
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Speaker 3: knowing where all of this stands, He's not in a

593
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: hot seat by any means, but he knows if you

594
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Speaker 3: don't get this right, where this could lead the path

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Speaker 3: that could lead down. So the think I think if

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Speaker 3: he is saying, yeah, I think we can win with

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Speaker 3: this guy, he's not doing it just you know, throwing

598
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Speaker 3: a penny into a well, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: From the from the NFL news cycle. Nordo mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: Today is the franchise tag deadline day. No no franchise

601
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Speaker 1: tags expected for the Viking track all. The Adam Schefter

602
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Speaker 1: reports the Jets are going to franchise tag Brace Hall,

603
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Speaker 1: so the running back who could have been available supposedly

604
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Speaker 1: not available. Atlanta Falcons get a fifth European game they

605
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Speaker 1: play in Madrid next year. The opponent has not been announced.

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Speaker 1: And whether they think we can get that one. I

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Speaker 1: think they come to MINNISO. They come here, Weather get Paris,

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Speaker 1: and Weather really got team. No, don't come on.

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Speaker 3: Just that they send them internationally all the time, and

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Speaker 3: the Saints play in Paris.

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Speaker 1: That's all. And I don't know if this was Sunday

612
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Speaker 1: or yesterday, but sources with all the right scribes and

613
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: the right media members indicate the Lions are going to

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Speaker 1: trade David Montgomery. Yeah, the running back to Houston for

615
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Speaker 1: a couple of picks, one of them is a fourth

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Speaker 1: this year. And Juice Scrugs I think is the offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman's name. But I mean, I don't A. These guys

618
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Speaker 1: are really good when they do things like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're at homes in that group. Yes, so A there's that.

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Speaker 1: They're really good when they move something and everybody's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: WHOA can what? Yeah? Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yes,

622
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: turned it into the port us. So I'm believing they

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Speaker 1: absolutely have a running back they want and they know

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Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to get him where

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Speaker 1: they want him. Petsing must have rolled in and been

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Speaker 1: been like, I only need that guy. Yeah, okay, so

627
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Speaker 1: we can draft one and we can raise him. But

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Speaker 1: all we need is that guy. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to trade him, we're okay with that. Yeah, but what

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Speaker 1: do you think of all this? Because Montgomery is a

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Speaker 1: touchdown machines.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's Jimyir Gibbs fantasy owner this year says,

633
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, ruefully, he is a touchdown machine. And he's

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00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: the other thing is he's better in pass protection, as

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: we saw in those games against the Vikings than Jimia Gibbs.

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: Is the Vikings turned Jami Gibbs into a liability right

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Speaker 3: by making him stay in pass protection in those games.

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Speaker 3: So you have to replace those things. You have to

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00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: replace the durability in the backfield, the ability to take

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Speaker 3: on contact, whether it's in short yarded situations or in

641
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Speaker 3: pass protection. But you can do that probably with somebody younger.

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00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: And I don't think they'll go in with you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: it's just Jamir Gibbs all the time. I think they

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00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 3: will add at that position and figure out where they

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00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: want to go. But yeah, to your point, they've been

646
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Speaker 3: pretty good at saying let's move on from a guy

647
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Speaker 3: early rather than doing it late. Yes, And I think

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Speaker 3: with a running back that's had quite a bit of

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Speaker 3: workload over the course of his time in the line

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Speaker 3: with Detroit and Chicago. I think that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I would imagine they'll replace that role, but

652
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Speaker 3: with somebody who's younger and cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Maybe they love Craig Reynolds. I always love that

654
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Speaker 1: boy as a backup. Ben Gasoline at Ben Gaesline covers

655
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Speaker 1: the covers the vikings for the Star Tribune. I haven't

656
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: asked you this, and and I saw him as he

657
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Speaker 1: was arriving to the combine when I was leaving former

658
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach Chris Cooper. Why didn't they reach out

659
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Chris Cooper here now the offensive line coach for the Eagles. Yeah,

660
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: he got hired pretty quick, he.

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Speaker 3: Did, and to replace Jeff Stoutlin, the legendary Eagles offensive

662
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Speaker 3: line coach, so and he was well respected coming in here.

663
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Speaker 3: I think it becomes one of those things where when

664
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Speaker 3: the problem has been the same the same position has

665
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: been the problem for as long as it had, somebody

666
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: was going to pay the price. And it's they've tried

667
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: to replace players, they've tried to change things out of

668
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: different positions, and some of the same problems keep popping up,

669
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Speaker 3: so you say, well, okay, maybe some of this is

670
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Speaker 3: the ways they're being coached, the techniques were using. I

671
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: think that was a lot of it, and they they

672
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: got all good about Keith Carter, I think fantastic. Yeah, yeah,

673
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Speaker 3: and a guy that came in with some questions to

674
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Speaker 3: answer about how he would relate to players. I mean

675
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: that was certainly part of his story with the Jets

676
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: and the Titans. A lot of players said, yeah, this

677
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: guy's is hard to play for. But my understanding when

678
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Speaker 3: they went through the process with him, both analyzing what

679
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Speaker 3: he did this year and then talking to him an

680
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: interview was they felt pretty good about that. And I

681
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: think Frank Smith comes in probably in a position where

682
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Speaker 3: he's going to be pretty involved on the offensive line

683
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Speaker 3: and some of the techniques in scheme, particularly in the

684
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Speaker 3: run game that they use. So I think a lot

685
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Speaker 3: of it is, you know, this is how it goes

686
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Speaker 3: in the NFL. When it's been the pass protection has

687
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: been an issue for as long as it has, somebody

688
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Speaker 3: is going to say, Okay, we got to try something different.

689
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Speaker 3: And I think that was a lot of what happened

690
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Speaker 3: here because.

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Speaker 1: Cooper, well, all of the free agency stuff. It's coming

692
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Speaker 1: at you fast, grid. Yeah, it's right around the corner,

693
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Speaker 1: it is. Are you seeing me? On? Eric Wilson?

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, that's going to be an interesting

695
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Speaker 3: one because will he get a big contract. He's you know,

696
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Speaker 3: he's in his thirties. I don't know that he's a

697
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Speaker 3: guy that is going to have a massive market. It

698
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: won't take a lot. But I also think he's aware

699
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Speaker 3: of where he fits in this defense and I think

700
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Speaker 3: they like him a lot. I think if the number

701
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Speaker 3: is right, they try to get him back here and

702
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's a maybe it's a two year

703
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Speaker 3: deal with you know, kind of a one and we'll see,

704
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Speaker 3: you know, how you structure the money on the back

705
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Speaker 3: end of that. But I would think, you know, Brian Flores,

706
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Speaker 3: when he wants somebody, he lets them know. And I

707
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Speaker 3: think Brian Flores is in a position where a lot

708
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Speaker 3: of what he wants to do on defense is probably

709
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Speaker 3: gonna happen. And you know, he's been in that case

710
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Speaker 3: before and I think continues to be in that place

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: Well well so Flores from what I understand is or

713
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Speaker 1: I knew this before from from the Roade chapels. Yeah,

714
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Speaker 1: with the team, but Flores and Dolman Gibson the assistant

715
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Speaker 1: special teams coach. Yeah, well they I mean Flores has

716
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Speaker 1: a very high opinion. And now all of a sudden,

717
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Speaker 1: the team announces Dolman is the backup inside linebackers coach.

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Speaker 1: The siavo so that that you know, as you as

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Speaker 1: you connect the dots here.

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Speaker 3: To like, yeah, Matt Daniels, why Brian Floor is like,

721
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Speaker 3: now I want him?

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Speaker 1: So why Brian's back? What he got what he needs?

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Speaker 1: I mean, all of a sudden, Dolman's back up inside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think there is certainly that pattern. And

725
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Speaker 3: if he wants Eric Wilson back and they make the

726
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Speaker 3: money work, I think that happens.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, So just to deduce for me, if they pulled

728
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Speaker 1: well respected moneyman Matt Thomas all Right out of retirement

729
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: probably for an offer he couldn't refuse to handle or

730
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Speaker 1: be part of the cap stuff the Brazinski role, then

731
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Speaker 1: Brazinski slides into the acting GM spot. This is just

732
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Speaker 1: how it seems it's going to be into twenty twenty six.

733
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Speaker 1: This because it's you know, just chatting with somebody right

734
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Speaker 1: before I left the combine. It I mean getting Matt

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Speaker 1: tom The Vikings are the first team to try to

736
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Speaker 1: get Matt Thomas out of retirement. Yeah, let's put it

737
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Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, but he came out of retirement for

738
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Speaker 1: this situation, which is like the Brazinski job, right, and

739
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: then Brazinski, still with his hands there to get people

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Speaker 1: up to speed, has the other job. I just don't

741
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Speaker 1: see it changing because if you if you hire Ben Gesling,

742
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: the personnel director for the Houston Texans to come into

743
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: be your GM, you're screwed if you make that hire

744
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Speaker 1: and and he's bally who Yeah, Okay, well what happens

745
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: to Rob? Yeah, somebody just rolled in took his job, right, Yeah,

746
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: and go back to the cap stuff. Let to sustain

747
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: as is they're not going to add anyway.

748
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Speaker 3: Well, the the biggest thing I heard at the combine

749
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Speaker 3: from people inside the organizations people outside the organization is

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Speaker 3: you should give Rob the job or that he's one

751
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 3: person that knows him well at Orks for Auto the

752
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: team called them called it a no brainer, yeah to

753
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: hire him because of how well respected he is in

754
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Speaker 3: different corners of the organization, Like Kevin O'Connell likes him.

755
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Speaker 1: Was the guy in the other conference. Yes, Okay, so

756
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Speaker 1: we may have spoken to the same guy, because if

757
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: you're in conference and you're like, we'll just let him

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00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: do it, Yeah, well then that's probably not You may

759
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: think he's terrible, right, right, exactly. Yeah, that may be

760
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: a backhead of compliment, but no, it was people that

761
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: have watched him work for a long time, and I

762
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: pressed with a lot of the way he goes it,

763
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Speaker 1: and you hear a lot of people, I mean, even

764
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: the feeling of we're pretty stable with where we are now.

765
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Speaker 1: And Matt Thomas, I don't know if he'll do this

766
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Speaker 1: long term. I think it was a bit of a

767
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: short term fifth to move to Minnesota for a few

768
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: months and then you go from there. But okay, I

769
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: will say even if Rob Razinski used the job, they

770
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: are big fans of Rob is, a big fan of

771
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Speaker 1: Emily Batis, who works pretty.

772
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Speaker 3: Closely with Rob on cap stuff. So I don't think

773
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: they would feel like, oh, what are we going to

774
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: do on the cap if Rob takes this other job,

775
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 3: because you can certainly be still connected to it, but

776
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: I think they feel like they've got some of that

777
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: covered with Emily working there. I mean, he thinks very

778
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: very highly of her, So with her and Matt Thomas

779
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: there right now, I think they feel pretty good on

780
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: that side of things. But overall, yeah, I think there

781
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: is you know, you'd have to figure out the personnel

782
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: side of things. What does the scouting side of this

783
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: look like? You know, does Ryan Monins get promoted? Do

784
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: you bring other people in? How do you work that

785
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: if your GM is not in that role? But you know,

786
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: you heard a lot of people's too that the GM

787
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: does not have to be the quote unquote super scout

788
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 3: all the time. You can have somebody Howie Rosevean came

789
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: from a different background. You have you know, people in

790
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 3: different jobs around the league that are not always from

791
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: the scouting world. You'd have to get that side of

792
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: it figured out, and you'd have to figure out what

793
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: you need to add to the scouts that they already have,

794
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: and how many people may leave that were tied to quacy.

795
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: But I think the overall approach of Rob leaving the

796
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: front office is not I It's not something I would

797
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: bet against. I think there's a very good chance, given

798
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: the respect, yes from the wilf's, respect from Kevin O'Connell,

799
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: respect throughout the building that if he wants it, and

800
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: that's the question. Is he wanted? But if he does,

801
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of momentum to make it happen.

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00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: That was fantastic, great great work in Indianapolis. By the way,

803
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: Thank you man. You just yeah, you attained a lot

804
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: while you were there.

805
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Well, we'll watch the proverbial chips fall ye, see what

806
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: happens with the Vikings. Have a good way you too,

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ben Gesling' Star Tribune Start Tribune dot com news

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the local side of things.

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Speaker 4: The New York Jets do indeed intend on placing the

821
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Speaker 4: franchise tag on Breise Hall. So you're thinking, okay, well

822
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Speaker 4: got steamy here. If you don't trade Aaron Jones, it

823
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Speaker 4: sounds like Aaron Jones will be released from the team.

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Speaker 1: Well, how are we gonna how are we gonna fill

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Speaker 1: that spot?

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Speaker 4: Do we do it in the draft or do we

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Speaker 4: would be a free agency Breese Hall no longer an option?

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Speaker 1: And I missed this.

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Speaker 4: I saw that the tags as far as today goes,

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Speaker 4: and I've already lost it.

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Speaker 1: Where is it?

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Speaker 4: Well, George Pickens, it sounds like received a tag for

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Speaker 4: about twenty seven million dollars, and then Kyle Pitts in

834
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Speaker 4: Atlanta as well. So Breese would it would be it

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Speaker 4: appears the third individual to be tagged by their team.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned Daniel Jones. No news on that.

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Speaker 4: Forty three million does sound insane to me, but what

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Speaker 4: we shall see. Deadline closes around three pm this afternoon.

839
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Speaker 4: And to the Minnesota Timberwolves, they beat the Nuggets. They

840
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 4: rose to the occasion in the Mile High City in

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Speaker 4: a Sunday Mattinee. Shortly, you'll be able to podcast that

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Speaker 4: conversation you had with head coach Chris Finch to open

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Speaker 4: the show today. But teams won three straight, like six

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Speaker 4: of their last seven. One of my favorite parts from

845
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Speaker 4: that chat. You were in Denver. You got to see

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Speaker 4: this game live, so maybe you can co sign on.

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Speaker 1: This is a head.

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Speaker 4: Coach talking, you know, we're kind of fine in our

849
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: rhythm here, that we're kind of we're again raising the level.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like there he's seen the wheels turning towards

851
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 4: a team that's getting mentally focused and excited about a

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00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: playoff opportunity not too long from now.

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00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, he he rattled off things that are coming together

854
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: or came together in the Denver game, so now the

855
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: expectation tonight against Memphis, then you got Toronto here and

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00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: moving forward that they stayed the same and involved defense

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: awareness with passing crisply and quickly and efficiently if you

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Speaker 1: get double team. He credited Anthony Edwards for being really

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00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: good at that in the fourth quarter of the Nuggets

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00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: game when they tried to make it sneaky, and also

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Speaker 1: talked about tonight being a mindset game. Memphis is terrible,

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00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: but most of Memphis team nobody's ever heard of. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there ain't anybody at the game tonight with a game

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Speaker 1: more Taylor or Tyler Hendrix, so that Zach Edies not playing.

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Speaker 1: Jaren Jackson got traded, so this absolutely should be a

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Speaker 1: win tonight, and Tonight Tonight is right, like Charles Barkley

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Speaker 1: a couple of Fridays ago, and this third time I've

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Speaker 1: shared this. Yeah, he's talking with Jalen Rose on the

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Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson bit and he's like, yeah, I like the wolves.

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Speaker 1: Of course they're gifted paraphrasing, but it's when they lead

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Speaker 1: bad teams whose cars have been turned on for a month,

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Speaker 1: trying to drive their way to Vegas or to the

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Speaker 1: airport to fly to Turks and Caicos. When you get

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Speaker 1: up ten to fifteen on them, make it thirty and

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Speaker 1: then the game will go quicker, quicker, and more quickly

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Speaker 1: it'll just be over. And they mess around with teams

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Speaker 1: too much. Well, they didn't do that Sunday against Denver,

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Speaker 1: and Denver's a quality squad missing a key player. Tonight's

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Speaker 1: squad is awful, and they play Willye Nelly, run up

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Speaker 1: and down the court, try to get as many shots

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Speaker 1: as they can. And so Chris Caltonight a mindset game.

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Speaker 1: Your mind needs to be set for this evening's game

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Speaker 1: where you're gonna have an opportunity to be up fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Make it bury them, move on to the next one.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of burying, we hope the Minnesota while they're able

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Speaker 4: to bounce back after a couple losses. Last thing for

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Speaker 4: you news to Nord Style. It's an eight thirty pm

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Speaker 4: ish while it's going to probably be closer to about

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Speaker 4: eight forty five eight forty seven as we got primetime

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Speaker 4: hockey in the mix, which puts an eight thirty ish

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Speaker 4: start time for the Wild in Tampa at Saint Paul.

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Speaker 4: Excited to hear from the head coach tomorrow, hopefully off

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Speaker 4: of a victory. But this team, whether it's a little

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Speaker 4: sleepy game on Sunday, not being able to figure out

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Speaker 4: and solve these Utah Mammoth I don't think they've won

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Speaker 4: a game in regulation in six against the Mana since

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Speaker 4: they moved to Utah. So opportunity for a bounce back

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Speaker 4: after a tough one at Grand Casino Arena on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: they get this one at home tonight, hopefully two points

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Speaker 4: for the good guys.

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Speaker 1: The Lightning I believe have lost two in a row.

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Speaker 1: They have yes from what I understand it is a

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Speaker 1: cranky lightning bunch loop from Florida to Minnesota. Yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got throttled by Buffalo the other day. Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: You were talking with Gorgy about it. Super cool story.

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Speaker 4: How they are very very much game for the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And and Tampa Bay is like second favorite to

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Speaker 1: win the Stanley Cup on a two game jag. Tonight's

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Speaker 1: going to be good because, as I said with us

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Speaker 1: Senor Spotty Kevin Gore hour and change ago, you come

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Speaker 1: off the Olympic break, got that emotional one at Denver.

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Speaker 1: You crush the Abs, all right. So then you come

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Speaker 1: home and you're playing a middling Saint Louis team middleing

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Speaker 1: at best, a lot of hooplah and pomp and circumstance

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Speaker 1: with the with the game day understandable, and you lose

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Speaker 1: to Saint Louis. And so now that you got yourselves

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Speaker 1: up for the Avs game, came back to the pack

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Speaker 1: for the Blues game. Now you settle in to kind

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Speaker 1: of who you are, no matter the injuries, no matter

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Speaker 1: fabric being here, the potential of a Trocheckchit trade by Friday,

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Speaker 1: no matter what's happening the guys on the other side

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Speaker 1: are desperate for a victory, and they're very, very good,

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Speaker 1: And Kucherof's one of the best in the show, but

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Speaker 1: so is Capriso, and so is Balding, and so is

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Speaker 1: Quinn Hughes. Tonight's going to be fantastic, very much looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it.

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Speaker 1: It is now post time for the annual Minnesota State

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Speaker 1: High School Hockey Tournament. Joining us yearly Tony Scott with

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Speaker 1: Youth Hockey Hop and he'll join us around the corner

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Speaker 1: to chapa who won't wear win and what with the

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Speaker 1: boys in the State High School Hockey Tournament Right here

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