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Speaker 2: Where exactly is Burnham Yard downtown?

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Speaker 3: I know, but it's like where exactly because it's like

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Speaker 3: your sixth Avenue, I know, but like where exactly?

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Speaker 3: And so they're gonna tear down whatever those little things

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So, but it seems like most people are

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying so, and we'll I'll be able to

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of I mean, now again, you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I ideally your team's playing in it ur

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Speaker 3: Reason to turn it into a domed experience where if

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Speaker 3: go inside. Isn't that the advantage that we have living here.

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Speaker 3: Let's say the Miami Dolphins come here for the AFC

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Speaker 2: That we had a couple of weeks ago here.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to cover that so that these guys

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Speaker 2: You have the option. That's that's it. Like, you have

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Speaker 3: So like, for example, if Miami, so you're gonna judge

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Speaker 2: Better advantage if Miami, who plays.

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Speaker 1: Again in Florida where it doesn't snow, If they're coming

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Speaker 2: You're like, you know what you're gonna play.

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Speaker 1: The elements where good with that then, But it's New

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Speaker 2: It's not much of an advantage now, is it. Well.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe then we should cover it and then

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Speaker 2: Up there, be able to drop water down so it

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Speaker 3: We'll plan for that, we'll actually practice in that all

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's how it works well well gamesmanship.

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Speaker 3: The number of fans who appreciate whatever the weather is

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Speaker 2: So that they have a voice like that. Yes, because

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Speaker 3: I think most fans, most Broncos fans consider the elements

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Speaker 3: That'd being an impacted when you try to make it

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Speaker 2: We will chat with Rome here in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees was on the New Heights podcast and we

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't have been able to break that glass ten

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Speaker 2: The tour it off first, the good stuff was not

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Speaker 2: Sure, I just started to lose quite a bit of pop.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So now he didn't say specifically the Broncos, but

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Speaker 2: Right, there was a moment where I thought it might

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Speaker 1: Was this like divine intervention and lightning struck your brain

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think about it. It would have been

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Speaker 3: Of ctity, and therefore everyone in that locker room would

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, It just shows you how delusional people

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers this fuck. Yeah, we did see that. It

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Speaker 3: It was easy for defenses to play against Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: He was going to go for the hair plugs and

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, sixty three quarterbacks started last season. Sixty

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Speaker 2: He needs more reps.

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Speaker 3: We need to do stuff that involves everyone, So when

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Speaker 3: It's everything else that changes around him. We have to

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Speaker 1: Go.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Philip Rivers ain't coming like I think Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 3: It's just kind of underwhelming stuff there. And it did

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Speaker 2: I think that's a mistake to bring these old guys out.

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Speaker 2: Always good to catch up with you. How are you? Oh,

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Speaker 3: So just to start there, right, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: I don't know where do you come down and all that?

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Speaker 6: You know what's funny about this is I feel conflicted

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Speaker 4: So there's a piece of me that loves football in

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Speaker 4: When you look at the AFC Championship game, I don't

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Speaker 7: There wasn't snow, But essentially I think the product would

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Speaker 7: So I think there's like, I think there's time and place.

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Speaker 4: A good product on the field. I've become more progressive.

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Speaker 4: But in a winter take all AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 6: I think absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Though the Patriots who played that really didn't really have

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Speaker 4: Move in that playoff game.

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Speaker 7: So I'm here for the gamesmanship.

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Speaker 6: So I think that just the Walton Peters has done

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Speaker 7: I think the national concerns.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be great, and it's going

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Speaker 6: Down the road, when Denver is getting Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, romy but what about Broncos Country.

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Speaker 3: What about the fans who have been here since the

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Speaker 7: You know? I hope so, you know that part.

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Speaker 4: I think things. You know, things change, and.

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Speaker 7: So I'm going to say.

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Speaker 4: I hope so. But I don't know. That's expensive too. Man,

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You hear his rants?

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Speaker 4: You know what I did not?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's pretty entertaining. But basically he's just not

448
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Speaker 1: a fan of Coach Prime. And he went on and

449
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Speaker 1: on and about how he feels like he's not a

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Speaker 1: very good coach, and that he I think a lot

451
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Speaker 1: of frustrations really.

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Speaker 2: Come down to just not winning.

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Speaker 1: And so I guess my question for you is how

454
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Speaker 1: much pressure is on coach Prime this upcoming season to

455
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Speaker 1: win and show.

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Speaker 2: Proof of there?

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm really curious to see. I think this

458
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Speaker 6: is a chance for Fernando Lovo to make his mark,

459
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Speaker 6: you know, one way or the other is you know,

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Speaker 6: Dion and Rick George had a very friendly relationship, but

461
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Speaker 6: maybe it wasn't super transactional, and.

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Speaker 4: A new ad comes in and this is.

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Speaker 6: A chance to kind of demand some things, and I'm

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Speaker 6: looking forward. He's a young guy, you know, I think

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Speaker 6: that's probably a tall task, but I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 6: seeing how he challenges you know, coach Truman and how.

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Speaker 4: He handled the situation.

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Speaker 6: But I do think there is a premium on winning because,

469
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Speaker 6: you know, a couple a lot of money to get

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Speaker 6: him here.

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Speaker 4: Obviously he's brought the university.

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Speaker 6: A lot of money. But at the end of the day,

473
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Speaker 6: you know, it comes down you got to win ball games.

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Speaker 6: And I think I'm interested to see what happens this year.

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Speaker 4: I think I understand the vision.

476
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Speaker 6: Going for instead of you know, kind of powerful retreads

477
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Speaker 6: going for a lot more. You know, a group of

478
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Speaker 6: five kids who want to prove themselves.

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Speaker 4: You can count on their work ethic.

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Speaker 6: I can buy into what they've done this year in

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Speaker 6: the transferportable.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if it translates.

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Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, it has to translate,

484
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Speaker 6: because then you're getting to a point where I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of fans, a lot of people,

486
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Speaker 6: you know, are are tired of everything that comes with it.

487
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Speaker 6: If you're not going to also supply the winds.

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Speaker 1: All right, last one I have for you. We're debating

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Speaker 1: this in the studio. Winter Olympics or Summer Olympics. What's

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Speaker 1: your favorite?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, okay, So what I love is comparing

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Speaker 6: the difference between the Winter Olympics and the Summer Olympics.

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Speaker 6: Like the Summer Olympics feels like summer camp, right, like

494
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Speaker 6: for who can run the fastest from here to here?

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Speaker 6: Who can throw this giant stick over here? And then

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Speaker 6: Winter Olympics it's like, let's see if you can go

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Speaker 6: down a death trap in a coffin with four people

498
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Speaker 6: at mock speed, and we'll put you on a sheet

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Speaker 6: of ice and see.

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Speaker 7: What happens and you know, or the biathlon where.

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Speaker 6: You're competing and then you're shooting, Like, I just love

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Speaker 6: the concept of the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 4: Sports are insane.

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Speaker 7: And I have to tell you this double louge.

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Speaker 4: Has a choke hold on me.

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Speaker 7: Yes, you came up with like, let's have a second guy.

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Speaker 4: And my question is who who is the battle?

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Speaker 7: It has to be the bottom guy, right.

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Speaker 1: The chaos of the Winter Olympics is way more entertaining.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I got mister California over here telling

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Speaker 1: me the Summer Olymps is better.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's just nuts.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Right Wait, wait, Roman, you're going winter. You're saying winter

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Speaker 3: is superior to the Summer Olympics.

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Speaker 6: I mean you got like every single person in the

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Speaker 6: Winter Olympics is an absolute insane adrenaline junkie.

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Speaker 4: Like the stuff they come up with, just think about it.

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Speaker 4: It's it's just like human death traps.

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Speaker 2: But it's all just sliding down ice. Not true.

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Speaker 3: Every every Winter Olympic event is just sliding on ice

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Speaker 3: some different equipment, is it not.

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Speaker 2: I mean yes and no it is.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 4: summer Olympics is running on dirt, right.

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Speaker 3: No, you get you get track and field. Do you

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Speaker 3: get basketball? You get swimming, you get water polo at

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Speaker 3: all kinds of cool summer Olympic Games events that are

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Speaker 3: a lot different than sliding on ice.

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Speaker 6: I just just the concept of the Like I've watched

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Speaker 6: every Olympic sport and what I've said to whoever I'm like.

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Speaker 4: With or if I'm at work, I'm like, who came

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Speaker 4: up with this event?

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Speaker 6: Like, every time you watch an Olympic sport, I want

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Speaker 6: you to think back through who.

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Speaker 4: Was thinking of this event?

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Speaker 6: Like even halfpipe, right, we're gonna have them fly and

538
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Speaker 6: flying in air and doing a million tricks on this

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Speaker 6: big swirly sheet of ice.

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Speaker 4: Who came up with all these ideas?

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Speaker 2: Let's started with skateboarding though, you know, and that's.

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Speaker 1: But it's on ice, yeah, which is cooler. It's like

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Speaker 1: way way more interesting. And to Broby's points were chaos.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea what's coming next. You're just a

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Speaker 1: chaos agent. You just want to see.

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Speaker 6: You're just like holding your breath because when they take

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Speaker 6: the crashes, they're like they're terrifying, right, So yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: just like an adrenaline rush for you to make sure

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Speaker 6: they can make it down safe.

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Speaker 3: Also, all right, it's been settled. Thank you, You are

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Speaker 3: the best. Roy Bean CBS four love having her on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well again everybody has a preference, allow allowed for that.

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Speaker 1: But I think that romys Romy's input really measures heavy

554
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Speaker 1: in this topic, and I feel like you've just lost

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Speaker 1: something there, to be honest, Grant, what do.

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Speaker 2: You think, oh, Grant, whin our Olympics all day?

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Speaker 1: You're gonna lose that? Are you wearing wolf socks? Baba's

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Speaker 1: only in this Baba's man. I mean around the building.

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Speaker 1: We can find more people and see if they agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Some of the most iconic Olympic moments in

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Speaker 1: history happened in winter.

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Speaker 2: No, that's wrong. What what are some of the most

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Speaker 2: iconic Olympic moments in history? Winter and summer?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm drawing a blank right now, but are

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Speaker 1: you well, I'll give you some Ben Johnson Michael, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Michael, Michael fails. Ben Johnson was at the time, but

567
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Speaker 2: he ran a you know, nine seven nine.

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Speaker 3: Carl Lewis, you know, the the US men's basketball team,

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Speaker 3: the Dream Team, Michael Phelps miracle.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's on ice, I know, and that was one.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I that one popped into my head. Sean

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Speaker 1: white Ye had some incredible moments.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember any of them, but I know he

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Speaker 2: was good. He was good. He was very good.

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Speaker 3: Mary Louretton Collly Kim. I think Mary leurettin was a

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Speaker 3: more iconic moment. She had back to back golds. She

577
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Speaker 3: was going for the drug.

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Speaker 2: She heard her ankle boom, she still stopped the landing.

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Speaker 1: I understands it. You know, you kid live in Colorado.

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Speaker 1: It's a cold weather state. You wouldn't know from well.

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Speaker 3: Not if we put a dome over not only put

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Speaker 3: a dome, we put a dome over Colorado, put a

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Speaker 3: dome over Italy. Right now, I don't know how much

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Speaker 3: he even the playing. I don't know how much money

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Speaker 3: the O Walton Petter family has. But a dome over Colorado.

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Speaker 3: I don't think what is like mister Burns where he

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Speaker 3: blocks out the sun? Really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: There no the Christian Fourier stuff I want to I

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Speaker 1: did want to get to that before we hit the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. So a former NFL tight end

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Speaker 1: national champion here to see you, and he was on

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Speaker 1: a podcast recently with Sech Gilb I Believe.

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Speaker 2: And he was well.

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Speaker 1: He was asked about coach Prime and asked about how

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Speaker 1: things are going to see you, and here's what he said.

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Speaker 8: I'll just put it this way because I don't have

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Speaker 8: time to get I'm just not a fan of the coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'll never be a fan of the coach.

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Speaker 2: I love the school.

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Speaker 8: And this isn't me picking on Deon Sanders because I

601
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Speaker 8: pick on Joe Gibbs. The worst coach I've ever had

602
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Speaker 8: was Joe Gibbs, so me picking on Dion Sanders is nothing.

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Speaker 8: I just don't like the way he coaches football. I

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Speaker 8: don't think he's very bright. I don't think he can

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Speaker 8: manage a game. I think there's a lot of flash,

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Speaker 8: but I think there's no substance, you know. And he's

607
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Speaker 8: got a lot of people like brainwashed, and you know,

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Speaker 8: we'll see, we'll see what he can do. But I'm

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Speaker 8: just I'm not a fan of them, not a fan

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Speaker 8: of his coaching style, not a fan of his messaging.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of things you know, internally that I

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 8: know about that I'm not a fan of. And it's

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Speaker 8: just not not worth my energy to sit there and

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Speaker 8: follow it and you know, and then and go back

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Speaker 8: and forth with the uh. The emperor has no close

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Speaker 8: crowd that support him, regardless of how stupid stupid he

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Speaker 8: is sometimes. So yeah, that's the way I feel about it.

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Speaker 8: And it bugs me that a lot of alumni I

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Speaker 8: just don't speak up about it. They don't say anything,

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Speaker 8: but I will.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, have some more from Christian forty here in

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Speaker 1: a second. But coach Brian deal Sanders sixteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: one on his three seasons here with CU into four eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: four three and nine sixteen twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Overall, I you know, there's a couple of shots in there.

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Speaker 1: I would say that I the relevant part matters rise

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Speaker 1: you being relevant with coach Prime, it does matter.

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Speaker 2: Why does it matter to be relevant? Because what is

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Speaker 2: being relevant? Even me?

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Speaker 1: Well, it means that you can recruit players. I mean,

631
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Speaker 1: of course you'd like to turn around and be able

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Speaker 1: to win, but you can recruit. You can be a

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Speaker 1: team or a university that has talked about on a

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Speaker 1: national scope. I mean that doesn't matter. It brings money

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Speaker 1: into it brings money into the community. Also, you can

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Speaker 1: sell out some of these games where they were actually

637
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Speaker 1: having a hard time getting a lot of people to

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Speaker 1: show up and see you games up until Coach Prime

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Speaker 1: got here.

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Speaker 3: So I think relevance in that respect matters at first.

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00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: Okay at first, but then you got to win, and

642
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: if you don't, then the relevance becomes a joke. And

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00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: that's kind of what Christian for you, exactly, because you

644
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: made a big deal about how great it was going

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Speaker 3: to be, and everybody came and you became relevant because

646
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: of your declarations, the salesman ship thing, and then everyone

647
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Speaker 3: came and all right, let's play some good football.

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Speaker 2: And then you don't. And so it makes what you

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: said seem as if you didn't know what you.

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Speaker 3: Didn't do it the right way, that it was more

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Speaker 3: important to appear relevant and to create a splash and

652
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Speaker 3: to create a stir and to get NFL game or

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00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: you know, college game day here and get the money going,

654
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: instead of building the team from the inside out and

655
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Speaker 3: creating a winning program that every single year was competing

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Speaker 3: for a national championship. And I think that's what Dion wants.

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Speaker 3: To have a team that's not just relevant but successful.

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Speaker 3: And if you're constantly like talking about how great you are,

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Speaker 3: and how nobody believes and how.

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Speaker 2: You're going to prove it, and then you're not doing it.

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Speaker 3: It becomes a caricature, it becomes a joke, and it

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Speaker 3: becomes this recurring thing where it's like, no, you're not

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Speaker 3: doing that thing that you said, and in fact, now

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Speaker 3: you're getting defensive because we're.

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Speaker 2: Asking about it.

666
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Speaker 3: And look, I think he has some points when it

667
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: comes to game management and decisions that Dion makes it

668
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: the head coach too, Like he's not very good at

669
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: managing the clock, he's not in his timeouts.

670
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Speaker 2: And it's not just coach prime.

671
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: Is bad that a lot of defensive players who all

672
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: of a sudden are in a head coaching role have

673
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: never had that sort of thing happen in their mind

674
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: where they have to manage a game like that. And

675
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: he's not very good at it. And the question is

676
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: is he humble enough about his blind spots to allow

677
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 3: people to help him do the things he's not good at?

678
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, there's a question as to

679
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: whether or not that's true. And and I think did

680
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: Christian Fourier have his son went there? I believe so, yeah, yeah,

681
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: he's very close to that situation. It's a very emotional

682
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: thing because I think there's a lot of fathers who

683
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: sent their sons there to play for Coach Prime who

684
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: are disappointed in how it would turned out, you know.

685
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: And if you're a father who played in the NFL

686
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: and you send your son there to be coached by

687
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 3: NFL guys and you think that's going to be an

688
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: experience close to what you had or something that you

689
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: consider a standard, and then it falls below that, you're

690
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: going to be upset by that, you know, because that

691
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: reflects on you and your decision to send them there too.

692
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: So I think I understand it's frustration, maybe a little cheap,

693
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, some cheap shots there, but I think a

694
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: lot of that is a legitimate criticism.

695
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the chief shots are kind of

696
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: what's getting the headline, but the subtext of it, there's

697
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: some there's some important stuff there, And that's kind of

698
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: why I asked romy about the necessity to have Coach

699
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Prime have a winning season, and maybe it needs to

700
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: be even more than that for some people. But I

701
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: but I do think that you have to do this

702
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: post Shador, post Travis Hunter. Oh yeah, Like there wasn't

703
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: anybody surprised they had a bad season last year. I mean,

704
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: maybe some people were because you thought, well, nine and

705
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: four and you had some good recruiting classes and maybe

706
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: you can just go right back to it. But they

707
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: struggled to figuring out who their quarterback was all season.

708
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: And I don't know any team who's struggling to figure

709
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: out who their quarterback is that tends to play well, right,

710
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: That just that just doesn't exist.

711
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: So you've got to have a plan.

712
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: You got to stick with the plan, and then hopefully

713
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: that they they will have some things they learned from it.

714
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: But the fact is is it looks like a flash

715
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: in the pan when you say, well, we have Travis Hunter,

716
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: who's a Heisman winner and he goes on to be

717
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: the number two pick in the draft and then Shdor Sanders.

718
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Of course, they were an electric product on the field

719
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: for a season. But if that ends up being the

720
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: only thing that comes out of this, well, then all

721
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: we are going to point is to sort of that

722
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Emperor has no closed mindset of well, you know, you

723
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: showed us a lot of flash and then it became

724
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: nothing and it all fizzled. So I'd say my expectation

725
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: this year is is you got to you gotta be

726
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: least six wins, like like minimum level six wins. Now,

727
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be good enough for everybody, but for me,

728
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: you can build from a three wins season, you get

729
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: to a six win season, and if you get seven

730
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: wins and then we're talking about like, okay, you're on

731
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: the right track. Anything short of that and then yeah,

732
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I do think there's gonna be conversations about what's next

733
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: for the program and whether or not you need to

734
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: move on, which is a wild thing to say, because

735
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: at the time of the hiring, I thought, not only

736
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: was this an absolute home run, but let's try to

737
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: convince him to stay here as long as he possibly can,

738
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: because I never even thought about it.

739
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: Nobody if he was a good football coach, Right, That's

740
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: that's what that's what we're missing here.

741
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be a good football coach.

742
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: We looked past that, I would say that until last

743
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: year when it when it really showed up in some

744
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: games that you lost, maybe you would have won, maybe

745
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: you would have not, but you didn't give yourself a

746
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: chance because you made mistakes as a coach.

747
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: And the problem is players see that and it's in

748
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: in the off season when they're having their discussions with

749
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: their parents about whether or not to hit the portal,

750
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: they say, my coach is not making the game decisions

751
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: for us to win football games.

752
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave here.

753
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to a school a coach that's going

754
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: to allow me to thrive, flourish, and let's win more

755
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: football games. Coach Prime came in with a lot of fanfare,

756
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: a lot of excitement, and made a lot of money

757
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: real fast, and brought a lot of attention. Like you said,

758
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: sold out games. Merchandise. Shoot, he sold like five million

759
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: dollars with the sunglasses that one week. Remember, yep, he's

760
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: a master of promotion. But you got to go play

761
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: the football game. And if you don't win the football game,

762
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: you look dumb. And if it goes and it happens

763
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: weekend and week out, and you're making mistakes and you're

764
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: getting pushed around, and you look like a team that

765
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: is undisciplined and not prepared and doesn't do the fundamentals

766
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: right and can't run the football and gets pushed around

767
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: on defense. All of a sudden, it's it's not enough

768
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: to have cool sunglasses, man, and a really cool you know, promotional.

769
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: Sort of arm.

770
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: You have to be able to compete and show these

771
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: kids that you're going to be making the decisions that

772
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: allows them to put their best foot forward. And I

773
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: think coach Prime has a lot to learn when it

774
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: comes to that.

775
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: On the text line, Winter Olympics is the best, especially

776
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: since Summer Olympics that are breakdancing.

777
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's right.

778
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Now.

779
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Some people say, like Nate would probably say that's actually

780
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 2: pretty cool. I don't.

781
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: I don't think breakdancing was cool because the lady from

782
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: Australia won it. Remember I remember that. Yeah, yeah, she

783
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: was probably wearing wolf socks. Why do you, I doubt

784
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: you would wear wolf socks in the summer. I don't

785
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: even wear wolf socks in the summer. You never know,

786
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: I've thought about it. The Summer Olympics has a lot

787
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: more variety, a lot more events. It has like three

788
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: times as many events, over three hundred events, whereas your

789
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: favorite the Winter Olympics has like one hundred and twenty

790
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: of them, and they're all just sliding on ice with

791
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: different equipment. Okay, different rules, but we're just sliding on ice.

792
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying there's not virtue in that and

793
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: value in those competitions. I'm saying, if we're comparing the two,

794
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: the Summer Olympics has so much more to offer and

795
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: has offered us so many more iconic moments, not just

796
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: the ones I mentioned.

797
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: Remember you know Muhammad Ali lighting the the thing. Yeah

798
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: you remember, you know Karl Lewis, And somebody pointed out

799
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: Usain Bolt, Usain Bolt. Yep, absolutely, Jesse Owens, Yeah that's

800
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: a good one. Yeah, this is a good one. Mark

801
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: Spitz smarked the shark. Did you just google this? You Google?

802
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: I see you?

803
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: So I knew Mark Spitzer. We're googly. Great moments in

804
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Summer Olympics, No, not Summer, all Olympics. And it only

805
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: shows you summer on Is that.

806
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 7: What it is?

807
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Because the miracle on ice is the only one you get.

808
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: What about Bruce Janner when Bruce Jenner was a man

809
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 3: competing at the highest level.

810
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: What about that nineteen seventy six?

811
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: Okay, things have changed a little bit, but Mary lou

812
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: rettin absolutely crushing it. Florence Griffith Joiner, remember flow, Joe.

813
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Speaker 2: I'm glad Google can help you