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Speaker 1: It is a very busy broadcast day here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald's show. Welcome to it now, less than a

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Speaker 1: week from the Wisconsin Supreme Court election, hundreds of other

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Speaker 1: candidates on the ballot in county municipal school board races

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Speaker 1: as well. President Trump makes history becoming the very first president,

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Speaker 1: at least in the modern era, to attend oral arguments

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Speaker 1: set the United States Supreme Court. We also have a

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Speaker 1: Top stories we are following right now here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. As I said, President Trump personally attended

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court oral arguments today alongside Attorney General Pam Bondi

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Speaker 1: in a major case challenging birthright citizenship for children of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. The president's presidence marks the first time in

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Speaker 1: modern history as sitting president has attended Supreme Court arguments

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Speaker 1: in person. Justices today heard arguments on ending the policy

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Speaker 1: that's allowed automatic citizenship for those born on US soil

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Speaker 1: to non citizen parents. We will have a more detailed

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Speaker 1: The President, meanwhile, is set to make a major national

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Speaker 1: address on Operation Epic Fury at eight o'clock tonight. He

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Speaker 1: says military operations in Oran could conclude within two to

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Speaker 1: have more, of course, coming up in the daily Trump

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Speaker 1: date at four and NASA's Artamis two mission is set

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Speaker 1: for liftoff tonight from the Kennedy Space Center, marking the

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Speaker 1: first crude flight to the Moon since nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 1: At a major step toward returning Americans to the lunar service.

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Speaker 1: The four astronauts will test the Orion spacecraft on a

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Speaker 1: actually become the human beings who will travel the farthest

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Speaker 1: about five thirty Central Time this evening. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get a quick update on the state's largest early vote drive.

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Speaker 1: On day six of our vote drive, that is, the

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Speaker 1: twenty four hour period ending just before this show got

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Speaker 1: vote drive. If you want to take part, it is easy. First,

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Speaker 1: And then once you're done voting, let me know about

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Speaker 1: I voted with my wife. That's two votes that we

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Speaker 1: count for the early vote drive. Look, we firmly admit

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Speaker 1: that this is not a scientific count. Could people be

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Speaker 1: they be doing an April fool's joke saying Dan, I

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Speaker 1: I would not believe that because I don't have a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of Democrat activists listening to this program. They're

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Speaker 1: President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to restore

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Speaker 1: coming up at about three fifty three fifty five right

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Speaker 1: now though a Dan o'donald's show exclusive. Chris Taylor, the

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Speaker 1: three judge panel yesterday absolutely shocked the world in slapping

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Speaker 1: because it was a SmackDown. These were lib judges smacking

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Speaker 1: While Taylor was serving as a state representative, she was

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Speaker 2: big thing that's tearing the country apart, et cetera. And

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Speaker 2: that goes around the world because social media, run by

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Speaker 2: the world's richest man, X is now making sure that

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Speaker 2: that you couldn't in the past.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talk about you talk about saying the

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Speaker 1: quiet part out loud. That is saying the quiet part

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Speaker 1: out loud. He is literally laying bare. Look, it sucks

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Speaker 1: for us as libs because we no longer have a

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Speaker 1: monopoly on information. Well, I am pleased to report that

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Speaker 1: just as X has broken up that monopoly, and you

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Speaker 1: can make the very compelling case. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: very good case to be made that Donald Trump does

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Speaker 1: not win the presidency if Elon Musk does not buy

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Speaker 1: X and restore free speech. And just as X has

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Speaker 1: done its part to restore free speech, we are hoping

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Speaker 1: that in a very small way here in Wisconsin, this show,

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Speaker 1: the Heartland Post, shows like Jason's, shows like Vicki's, shows

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Speaker 1: like Bens that they are breaking that monopoly and you

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Speaker 1: will hear the news you need to make you a

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Speaker 1: truly informed electorate. Dan o'donald show coming right back. It

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Speaker 1: is the Dan o'donald show, conservative thought, not just talk.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it. The Wisconsin Supreme Court race is

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Speaker 1: now less than a week away. Tomorrow night, of course,

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Speaker 1: is the big debate between Maria Lazar and Jill Korowski.

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Speaker 1: That debate, of course, had to be postponed because of

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Speaker 1: the single most convenient kidney stones in the history of

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin politics, Chris Taylor, who remember, didn't actually want to

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Speaker 1: the election cycle as humanly possible because she knows she's

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Speaker 1: the heavy favorite in this race. It really has been.

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Speaker 1: Since she got into this race. She's had a massive

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Speaker 1: fundraising advantage. As we outlined on yesterday's show, she's outraised

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Speaker 1: Lazar something like two point one million dollars to four

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the latest reporting period

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Speaker 1: that covered the period I believe since February first, right

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Speaker 1: up until yesterday. The final campaign finance report is due

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Speaker 1: later on this week week. So Taylor said that she

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Speaker 1: would only debate Lezaarre at the latest possible instance that

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Speaker 1: there has ever been a Supreme Court debate, when it

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Speaker 1: was the loan debate in the cycle March twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: ahead of this election on April seventh. This was well

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Speaker 1: into the period of in person early voting. People were

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Speaker 1: this debate. Days before the debate, people were already voting.

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Speaker 1: And this is a common left wing strategy. I'll go

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Speaker 1: all the way back to the election of John Fetterman. Now,

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Speaker 1: Fetterman actually turned out to be a pretty based Democrat,

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Speaker 1: but when he was running, he was a left wing radically. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: suffered a massive stroke right after he won the nomination,

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Speaker 1: and they essentially hid him. Democrats literally hid him from

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Speaker 1: voters until they agreed to one debate with doctor Oz,

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Speaker 1: who was his Republican opponent, as late in the election

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Speaker 1: cycle as they possibly could. Well it became apparent that

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Speaker 1: Fetterman could not speak. I've never seen a debate performance

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Speaker 1: like that in all my life, well except for two

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Speaker 1: years later in the debacle that cost Joe Biden his

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Speaker 1: run for reelection. But it was clear the stroke had

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Speaker 1: dramatically affected him, and it was an open question back

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Speaker 1: then in twenty twenty two whether he was ever ever

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Speaker 1: going to be able to recover, whether he was ever

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Speaker 1: going to be the same man he was before that stroke.

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Speaker 1: They deliberately tried to hide that from Democrats or from voters.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, Democrats were already voting, hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: votes in that Pennsylvania Senate election had already been cast,

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Speaker 1: and that was the point Taylor was engaged in the

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Speaker 1: exact same strategy. Let's get people voting. Let's let's get

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Speaker 1: our voters out to the polls early. So if I

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Speaker 1: say something stupid, or I say something embarrassing, or Marie

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Speaker 1: Azar has a great debate and she she really you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: captures the public's imagination and she just she shoots up

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Speaker 1: in the polls, it mutes the impact of that debate. Well,

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Speaker 1: then that wasn't close enough to the election, apparently for

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Speaker 1: Chris Taylor. The mourning of the debate. What an incredible

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Speaker 1: bit of timing. Mourning of the debate. She comes down

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Speaker 1: with kidney stones. Now, I am not suggesting that she

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Speaker 1: didn't actually have kidney stones. I am not suggesting that

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Speaker 1: she faked this diagnosis. In fact, kidney stones can be

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Speaker 1: insanely painful. I have known a number of people who

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Speaker 1: But it should be noted that it wasn't the intense

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Speaker 1: debate because of that. It was because she was on painkillers.

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Speaker 1: It was because they prescribed her some painkillers and she

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Speaker 1: didn't want a debate well on painkillers. Uh okay, well

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Speaker 1: I thought it was this like debilitating, awful thing. So

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Speaker 1: the debate is now rescheduled for tomorrow night, which is

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Speaker 1: by far the latest a debate has ever bet I

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Speaker 1: dare say in any statewide election in Wisconsin's history. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'd have to go back. I don't have the actual

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Speaker 1: data here, but I can't think five days before an election,

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Speaker 1: we are finally going to hear the two candidates debate

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Speaker 1: one another five days tomorrow night, April second. And it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be a live debate at Marquette University.

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Speaker 1: The logistics just didn't work out because of that last

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Speaker 1: second cancelation. It's just going to be at the WISN

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Speaker 1: TV studios. Of course, WISN TV and radio we are

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Speaker 1: I believe they're still owned by the Hearst Corporation. So

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Speaker 1: Channel twelve in Milwaukee and a number of statewide TV

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Speaker 1: carrying this debate. And it's a good thing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I give credit to Taylor for rescheduling the debate, but

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Speaker 1: come on, come on. Not only did the kidney stones

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Speaker 1: morning of Taylor's campaign said she passed the kidney stones

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Speaker 1: the morning that she was taking off this weekend for

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Speaker 1: a statewide tour to reach out to voters. So let's

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Speaker 1: she didn't want to do, and disappear the morning of

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Speaker 1: this statewide tour that she did want to do. Like

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Speaker 1: guys said, the most convenient case of kidney stones in

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin history. Coming up next to the unhinged liberal of

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Speaker 1: the day, a Democrat congresswoman from Nevada has some extremely

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Speaker 1: choice words about President Trump attending today's oral arguments at

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Stay tuned, welcome back. It is the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell show coming up in the four o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it is the daily Trump date. Huge day

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Speaker 1: at the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which heard oral arguments on

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Speaker 1: the potential repeal of birthright citizenship in the Fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 1: President Trump himself was sitting in the front row for

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Speaker 1: those arguments. He became the very first president in the

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Speaker 1: modern era to ever attend oral arguments at the United

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Speaker 1: States Supreme Court, So lots to get to. We have

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Speaker 1: a ton of soundbites from those oral arguments. It really

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Speaker 1: does seem as though birthright citizenship for the children of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants could be overturned. And that brings us to

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Speaker 1: today's unhinged life liberal of the day. Stuff is dangerous

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Speaker 1: because he's evil America alone. Today's unhinged liberal of the

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Speaker 1: day is Democratic US Rep. Susie Lee, who's from Nevada,

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Speaker 1: who posted a now deleted, extremely profane message on X

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Speaker 1: responding to a story about President Trump's appearance at the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court this morning. She wrote, quote, so bleeping bleeped up.

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Speaker 1: I'll pray they bleep him to his face. What does

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Speaker 1: that even mean? They'll bleep him to his face? Those bleeps,

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Speaker 1: by the way, were the F word if if you

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Speaker 1: couldn't quite tell. Democratic Rep. Susie Lee, the profane ranter

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Speaker 1: on X speaking of speaking of things being bleeping bleeped up.

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Speaker 1: Was Susie Lee herself bleeped up when she posted that

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Speaker 1: and then deleted it? Or did she thinks she was

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Speaker 1: posting from a burner account. Maybe a staff member on

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Speaker 1: her campaign thought they were posting from a personal account

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Speaker 1: they accidentally grabbed the boss's x account. Either way, Susie

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Speaker 1: Lee is your unhinged liberal of the day. They just

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Speaker 1: can't help themselves. They are so angry and so profane.

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Speaker 1: Trump has broken hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of

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Speaker 1: liberal brains over the past decade. It is absolutely remarkable

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Speaker 1: to see. We will get you to the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: oral arguments coming up when the four o'clock hour commences

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Speaker 1: in just a second, right here on the Dan o'donald Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show. Busy, busy, busy

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Speaker 1: day today, gonna be a very busy night tonight, President

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Speaker 1: Trump making a major address. We are scheduled for a

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Speaker 1: NASA launchon about an hour and a half or so.

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Speaker 1: And of course we have got a huge exclusive story

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Speaker 1: up at the Heartland Post Heartlandpost dot com. We broke

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Speaker 1: it here on the Dan o'donald Show about an hour ago.

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Speaker 1: Liberal Supreme Court Justice Chris Taylor has repeatedly violated judicial

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Speaker 1: ethics rules that she herself proposed as a member of

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Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Assembly. It's an almost unbelievable story. I swear

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Speaker 1: it is not an April fool's joke on this April first.

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Speaker 1: You want to check it out Heartlandpost dot com. We

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Speaker 1: have got it on my social media at Dan O'donald

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Speaker 1: show on X on Facebook, on Instagram. By the way,

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Speaker 1: please these do follow the show there. If you want

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Speaker 1: to get in touch with us at any point four

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Speaker 1: also reach us toll free one eight one hundred and

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Speaker 1: od at iHeartMedia dot com. Let's very quickly get an

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Speaker 1: update on the state's largest early vote drive. Texts are

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Speaker 1: coming in, uh pretty regularly. We are getting dozens and

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Speaker 1: dozens of texts during the show today. Hi Dan, this

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Speaker 1: is Gene in Greendale. My husband and I both voted today.

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of people going to early vote.

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Speaker 1: Good Gene. Then hopefully that means that your votes will

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Speaker 1: count much much more. We do have two thousand, three

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five people just like Gene checking in

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Speaker 1: texting me at four one, four seven, nine, nine eleven

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Speaker 1: thirty on our adnos dot com talk and text line

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Speaker 1: letting me know that they early voted. That's how it works,

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Speaker 1: you just go to in person early vote. I believe

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Speaker 1: a number of communities still have in person early voting

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Speaker 1: going until five PM. Hell, Milwaukee and Madison are keeping

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Speaker 1: their places open until like two am. I'm not just kidding,

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Speaker 1: but they have been notorious for doing as many early

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Speaker 1: we are way behind that pace. Last year it was

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Speaker 1: for control of the entire Wisconsin Supreme Court. It was

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Speaker 1: the most expensive judicial election in state history, by far,

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Speaker 1: in American history, by far. One hundred million dollars poured

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Speaker 1: into that race last year. A tiny fraction of that

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Speaker 1: because troll ideologically of the court is not up for grabs,

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Speaker 1: but we have twenty three hundred and seventy five votes

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Speaker 1: logged in our state's largest early vote drive. Keep them coming,

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Speaker 1: Keep those texts coming. We will be reading them throughout

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Speaker 1: the day today. By the way, do want to clear

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Speaker 1: something up because a very sharp listener by the name

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Speaker 1: of Sean pointed out that I was wrong when I

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Speaker 1: said something yesterday. I said that Liberals will be able

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Speaker 1: to get a seven nothing majority on the State Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court before they ever have to defend a seat. If

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Speaker 1: Marializaar loses this election, liberals will take a five to

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Speaker 1: two majority on the Court because Conservatives are defending the

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Speaker 1: seat that Rebecca Bradley, a Conservative justice, retired from. She

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Speaker 1: announced back in August she's not going to run for reelection,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, they will have to defend the seat being

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Speaker 1: the Rebecca Dallit seats. So kudos to Shawn for pointing

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Speaker 1: All right, time now to get to a big update

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Speaker 1: today from the White House. It's your daily Trump Date.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna win so much you may even get tired

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Speaker 1: Just keeps winning. It is a win for the administration.

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Speaker 1: address to the nation tonight at nine pm Eastern eight

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Speaker 1: eight pm. You can listen to it on WIS and

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Speaker 1: Radio News TAWK eleven thirty WIS. President Trump today made history.

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Speaker 1: He was the first president in modern history to attend

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Speaker 1: oral arguments at the US Supreme Court in a landmark

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Speaker 1: case that could end birthright citizenship for the children of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. Right now, that's actually guaranteed by the fourteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 1: If you are born in America, no matter who your

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Speaker 1: you by virtue of being born here are an American citizen.

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Speaker 1: But Solicitor General John Sower made a compelling case answering

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Speaker 1: a question by Chief Justice John Roberts.

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Speaker 4: Well, starting with that theory, you obviously put a lot

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Speaker 4: of weight on, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, But the

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Speaker 4: examples you give to support that strike me as very quirky.

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Speaker 4: You know, children of ambassadors, children of enemies during a

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Speaker 4: hostile invasion, children on warships, and then you expand it

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Speaker 4: to the whole class of illegal aliens are here in

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Speaker 4: the country. I'm not quite sure how you can get

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Speaker 5: There are those sort of narrow exceptions for ambassador, foreign

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Speaker 5: public ships, tribal anians, enormous one that they were very

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Speaker 1: Debates as well.

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Speaker 5: But what I do is I invite the court to

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Speaker 5: look at the intervening step, which is the enactment of

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Speaker 5: the Civil Rights Act of eighteen sixty six. And there

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Speaker 5: they didn't say subject to the jurisdiction thereof There it

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Speaker 5: says not subject to any foreign power. Now, if you

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Speaker 5: go back to Blackstone in Calvin's case, they say it

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Speaker 5: does not matter if you were subject to any foreign power.

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Speaker 5: If you were born in the king's domains, you have

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Speaker 5: this indefeasible duty of allegiance to the king at any time.

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Speaker 5: So there's a clear repudiation in the Civil Rights Act.

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Speaker 5: The Civil Rights Act is this breakwater which makes it

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Speaker 5: very very clear that they are not thinking about allegiance

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Speaker 5: in the terms of like the British common law. They've

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Speaker 5: adopted the Republican conception of allegiance, so it's from not

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Speaker 5: couple months later make it very clear that they're recodifying

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Speaker 5: the same conception. They were dissatisfied with the potential ambiguity

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Speaker 5: statements of this is Senator trumbull statements that I quoted

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Speaker 5: at the beginning, where he says he's asked for what

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Speaker 5: does that mean, sunder the jurisdiction they're us and he says,

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Speaker 5: it means not owing allegiance to anybody else.

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Speaker 1: That is what it means.

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Speaker 5: And this court picked up on that and elk against

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Speaker 5: Wilkins when it says he uses, you know, completely subject

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Speaker 1: Now, folks, that's just an incredibly concise way of summing

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Speaker 1: up the Trump administration's argument. We'll have much more on

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Speaker 1: this coming off in just a second, because it would

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Speaker 1: be an absolutely massive ruling if birthright citizenship is struck out. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: for National Fraud Enforcement. That marks a key step in

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. Hooks to crack down on government waste,

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Speaker 1: Trump date. And hey, speaking of fraud. Coming up later

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Speaker 1: this hour, a big update on a fraud case that

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Speaker 1: we told you about on Monday. It's an update to

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Speaker 1: an exclusive story here on the Dan o'donalds show. New CAP,

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Speaker 1: the embattled and very likely fraudulent nonprofit in the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay area, abruptly shut its doors yesterday. It said it

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Speaker 1: Well it finally did. And the timing is suspicious, to

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Speaker 1: say the least, because it comes as you have now

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Speaker 1: a number of state legislators calling for criminal investigation. You

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Speaker 1: Jim Genrick, who happens to be running for a seat

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Speaker 1: is absolutely just disgusting. So we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: that coming up in just a second here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnells Show. But this birthright citizenship case is absolutely enormous.

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Speaker 1: It would be a fundamental sea change in just how

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Speaker 1: citizenship works in America. President Trump obviously wants to end

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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship because he argues that you have people who

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Speaker 1: were never contemplated by the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 1: right now. Fourteenth Amendment makes it very very clear if

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Speaker 1: you are born on American soil, you are an American citizen.

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Speaker 1: Well back when the Amendment was written in the eighteen sixties,

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Speaker 1: rather obviously, we didn't have a problem with illegal immigration.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have a problem with birth tourism, which is

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Speaker 1: a thing people especially from China, are actually coming to

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Speaker 1: the United States specifically so they can give birth and

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Speaker 1: their children can be dual citizens. It is kind of amazing.

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Speaker 1: We're constantly told that America is this racist hellhole and

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Speaker 1: it's just a terrible place. Because of President Trump's leadership. Well,

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Speaker 1: how come everybody in the world wants American citizenship? And

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Speaker 1: clearly there is some value there. It is looking, ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, you I always have to caution you can

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Speaker 1: never quite tell how a case is going to go

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Speaker 1: from oral arguments. People try to read the tea leaves. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this justice said this, this justice said this, how are

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Speaker 1: they going to rule? Well, I can tell you. Arch

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Speaker 1: Conservative Justice Samuel Alito, in this exchange with the Solicitor

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Speaker 1: General John Sower, certainly sounded like he was open to

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Speaker 1: the possibility. He was open to the idea of ending

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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship for precisely the reason that I just outlined,

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Speaker 1: Because what's going on now with illegal immigration and people

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Speaker 1: who just have no possible tie to the United States.

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Speaker 1: They're coming here, they're having children. And essentially what this

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Speaker 1: comes down to is the phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Okay,

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Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdiction thereof. This is going to be

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Speaker 1: the key delineation and the key classification that the justices

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Speaker 1: are going to use to base their decision. So citizenship

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Speaker 1: is limited to people who are subject to the jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: thereof the United States. That requires complete political jurisdiction and

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Speaker 1: direct allegiance to a country, not merely physical presence or

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Speaker 1: being subject to ordinary laws, i e. An illegal alien, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: can get a traffic ticket. Okay. Children of illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: essentially owe their primary allegiance to their parents' country of origin.

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Speaker 1: They lack a full dominion over them by the United States.

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Speaker 1: And that's consistent actually with the Fourteenth Amendments focus in

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Speaker 1: the Reconstruction era on freed slaves. There was never a

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Speaker 1: contemplation to reward unlawfulctric So here's here's Samuel Alito, Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court Justice and Solicitor General johnswer talking about.

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Speaker 3: Justice nations that they had in mind when they adopted

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Speaker 3: the general rule. Or do we say they adopted a

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Speaker 3: general rule. They meant for that to apply to later

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Speaker 3: applications that might come up. Justice Scalia had an example

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Speaker 3: that dealt with this situation. He imagined an old theft

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Speaker 3: a microwave oven. And then afterwards someone is charged with

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Speaker 3: the crime of stealing a microwave oven. And this fellow says, well,

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Speaker 3: I can't be convicted under this because a microwave oven

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Speaker 3: a general rule there and you apply it to future applications.

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Speaker 3: And what we're dealing with here is something that was

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Speaker 3: which is illegal immigration. So how did we do with

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Speaker 3: that situation when we have a general rule?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I strongly agree with the way that you framed it,

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Speaker 5: that there is a general principle, that's a broad principle

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Speaker 5: that's adopted the phrase under the jurisdiction thereof. And we

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Speaker 5: submit that our theory of allegiance and domicile based allegiance

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Speaker 5: what explains those specific exceptions that everybody was aware of,

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Speaker 5: but it is broad enough to sweep in future situations.

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Speaker 5: And as you pointed out, illegal immigration did not exist then.

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Speaker 5: Now the problem of temporary visitors did exist. And it's

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Speaker 5: very interesting that as you look at pages twenty six

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Speaker 5: and twenty eight of our brief commentators going from you know,

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Speaker 5: eighteen eighty one until nineteen twenty two are uniformly saying

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Speaker 5: that children of temporary visitors are not included.

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Speaker 1: Now that logic we.

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Speaker 5: Say it's a naturally extends, it's really an off force

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Speaker 5: uri case.

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Speaker 1: If you are someone who enters illegally.

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Speaker 5: By the eighteen eighties, there are restrictions on immigration if

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Speaker 5: you've entered illegally. It's kind of, you know, a well

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Speaker 5: established principle of law, going back to the Code of

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Speaker 5: Justinian that.

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Speaker 1: Says you're not allowed to be there. You cannot you.

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Speaker 5: Don't have the legal capacity to create domiciles.

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Speaker 1: So you see how the interpretation of subject to the

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction there is really the key thing here. When we

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Speaker 1: come back here on the Dan O'Donnell show, we are

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Speaker 1: running way late for a break, and I do want

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Speaker 1: to get to a whole bunch of other stuff this hour,

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Speaker 1: but I also want to get to the constitutional arguments here.

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Speaker 1: There is a controlling precedent case called Wong kim Arc.

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Speaker 1: Wong Kim Arc. You need to know the name Wong

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Speaker 1: Kim Arc because that is going to be the critical case.

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Speaker 1: You can make a very good case, and I think

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Speaker 1: sour did today during oral argument. He's a fantastic solicitor

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Speaker 1: general just as a society, he's a really really bright guy.

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Speaker 1: Un Constitutional probably why he is representing the United States

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Speaker 1: as solicitor general. As a great hire by President Trump

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Speaker 1: John Sower as Solicitor General. But when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we are going to get into sort of the constitutional

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Speaker 1: arguments here in favor of the repeal of birthright citizenship

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Speaker 1: and also sour masterfully dismantling the pathetic attempts at argument

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Speaker 1: by the shall we say, most intellectually inept member of

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Yeah, you know exactly who it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that coming up next here on the

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show. It is the Dan o'donalds Show, Conservative thought,

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Speaker 1: not just talk. Welcome back to it. President Trump making

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Speaker 1: history today is he becomes the first president, at least

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Speaker 1: in the modern era, to attend Supreme Court oral arguments,

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Speaker 1: and it is in a landmark case that could potentially overturn.

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Speaker 1: But birthright citizenship as guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment. Fourteenth

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Speaker 1: Amendment is the textual language of It is very clear

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Speaker 1: that any child born on US soil is automatically an

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Speaker 1: American citizen. Do you realize that the United States is

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Speaker 1: one of only a tiny handful of countries that has

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Speaker 1: this near universal automatic birthright citizenship guarantee. No other countries

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Speaker 1: do this because they realize how ridiculous. It is if I,

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Speaker 1: for example, in a couple of weeks, we are taking

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Speaker 1: a listener trip to Prague. We are going to the

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Speaker 1: Czech Republic. I've increasingly seen it being called check yah.

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Speaker 1: It'll always be the Czech Republic to me. But we're

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Speaker 1: going to Prague. Let's say one of our listeners is

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Speaker 1: very pregnant and she gives birth in Prague. An American citizen,

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Speaker 1: she is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

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Speaker 1: She has no ties to Prague other than the fact

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Speaker 1: that she's going on this Dan o'donnelld trip. And she

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Speaker 1: gives birth, the child is automatically a Czech citizen. Of course,

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Speaker 1: nobody thinks that that's a good way to do citizenship.

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Speaker 1: It is completely out of step with the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world, and it incentivizes illegal immigration as well as

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Speaker 1: anchor babies. It's sort of a pejorative term, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's a great term for what it is that these

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Speaker 1: illegals are doing. They are trying to have children on

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Speaker 1: American soil because of DAPPA. You might remember DAPPA, which

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Speaker 1: was first proposed by President Obama, the Deferred Action for

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Speaker 1: the Parents of Americans. Now that was since challenged in court,

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Speaker 1: and what it said was, Okay, the children are American

927
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Speaker 1: citizens because they were the children of illegal aliens who

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Speaker 1: happened across the Rio Grande and get into this country

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Speaker 1: their parents. The Obama administration's posture was about a decade

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Speaker 1: or so ago, was we should not deport we should

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Speaker 1: not take any action against the illegal alien parents because

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Speaker 1: they are the parents of American citizens. Well what does

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Speaker 1: that do if you are not only going to have

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Speaker 1: your child get a very very valuable thing in American citizenship,

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Speaker 1: but you yourself are gonna be the beneficiary, because well,

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Speaker 1: I've got an American kid. I can't be deported. You

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Speaker 1: might remember that the MPs Milwaukee Public School teacher aid

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Speaker 1: from last year where she was fighting her deportation. Her

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Speaker 1: central argument was my daughter. She had twin daughters, I

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Speaker 1: believe twin fourth or fifth grade daughters who are American citizens.

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Speaker 1: She said, well, I can't be deported because what are

942
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Speaker 1: you gonna what's gonna happen to my kids? Well, the

943
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Speaker 1: kids are probably going to have to go with you,

944
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Speaker 1: and you're going to have to take that up with

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Speaker 1: you is at the Honduran government. I forget where it

946
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Speaker 1: was that she actually was deported back to but her

947
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Speaker 1: central argument was, you can't deport me, even though she

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Speaker 1: had a valid deportation order. Even though everything was perfectly

949
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Speaker 1: fine to deport her. Her argument was, you can't do

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Speaker 1: this because of my children, because of my anchor babies.

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Speaker 1: This creates such a powerful magnet not just for illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: but also for birth tourism, which was very, very common

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Speaker 1: amongst Chinese nationals. It's since, I believe, been somewhat cracked

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Speaker 1: down on, but ten fifteen years ago this was a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge thing. Limiting birthright citizenship is absolutely constitutional. The text

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Speaker 1: of the fourteenth Amendment limits citizenship only to those subject

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Speaker 1: to the jurisdiction thereof i e. The United States. What

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Speaker 1: this is most commonly understood to mean is that it's

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Speaker 1: not just the jurisdiction of the nation's laws. Okay, So,

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Speaker 1: using the Czech Republic exam, I'm leading this group of

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Speaker 1: listeners to the Czech Republic. I am subject to the

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction of the Czech Republic's laws while I am there.

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Speaker 1: If I steal from a store in Prague, we go

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Speaker 1: to one of the high end shopping districts, and what

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Speaker 1: would be the funniest thing for me to steal, like

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Speaker 1: a Gucci purse. I'm subject to the jurisdiction of Prague.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean I have any other tie to the

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Speaker 1: Czech Republic. I'm subject to the laws and local ordinances

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Speaker 1: of Prague and the country that I'm visiting, but i

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Speaker 1: have no other time. Being subject to the jurisdiction of

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Speaker 1: a country means completely subject to it, not just subjection

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Speaker 1: to ordinary laws, traffic violations, municipal ordinances, criminal laws, that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. The argument is, the children of illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens are they owe their primary allegiance to whatever the parents'

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Speaker 1: home country is because they're not actual American citizens in

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Speaker 1: any real meaningful phrase. They are the children of people

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Speaker 1: who just snuck in across the border. Now, the controlling

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Speaker 1: case here is Wong Kim Arc. United States vi. Wong

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Speaker 1: Kim Arc. In eighteen ninety eight, the Supreme Court granted

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Speaker 1: citizenship to a child of Chinese immigrants. And I don't

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Speaker 1: want to bore you with the details of this case.

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Speaker 1: It is actually a fascinating landmark case. It is the

983
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Speaker 1: controlling precedent in this but there are huge exceptions here.

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Speaker 1: The Chinese immigrant parents, they were permanently domiciled in the

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Speaker 1: United States, that they were lawful, long term settlers. They

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Speaker 1: were not illegal immigrants. Remember, back then, the concept of

987
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Speaker 1: illegal immigration to the United States did not exist because

988
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Speaker 1: we were expanding so rapidly as a country, manifest destiny

989
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Speaker 1: and so forth, that there was a need. Especially Wan

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Speaker 1: kim Ark was a Chinese. He was an American citizen,

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Speaker 1: but his parents were Chinese citizens. We wanted Chinese to

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Speaker 1: come to the West to help build up especially they

993
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Speaker 1: were huge in working on the railroads, so we wanted

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Speaker 1: to import this labor here. They were long term settlers,

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Speaker 1: and Wan kim Arc explicitly tied the ruling the court

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Speaker 1: there explicitly tied the ruling to common law just solely,

997
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Speaker 1: which is the law of the land. Basically, it's Latin,

998
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: and it basically means if you are born on American soils,

999
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Speaker 1: the law of the soil. That's what it literally translates to.

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Speaker 1: But there are narrow exceptions here diplomats, invading armies, certain

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Speaker 1: tribes of Native Americans. Never addressed illegal entrants or people

1002
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Speaker 1: who are just here temporarily who lack domicile. There was

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Speaker 1: another case about fourteen years before Wong kim arc called

1004
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Speaker 1: Elk v. Wilkins. The Supreme Court held Native Americans who

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Speaker 1: are born on US soil but owed their allegiance to

1006
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Speaker 1: a sovereign tribe were not subject to the jurisdiction of

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Speaker 1: the United States, and thus they were not citizens at birth.

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Speaker 1: That established that birth alone is insufficient without full political subjection,

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Speaker 1: full political allegiance. So what this means is if you

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Speaker 1: had a Native American I can't remember what tribe was

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Speaker 1: at Issha. Let's just say, for the sake of arguments,

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Speaker 1: the Cherokee. So you have somebody who is born outside

1013
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Speaker 1: of a reservation, but is on a sovereign Cherokee reservation land.

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Speaker 1: This is considered sovereign land. It is not subject to

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Speaker 1: the jurisdiction fully of the United States. Because the child

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Speaker 1: in Elk v. Wilkins was not completely subject to the

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction of the United States, because there was still this

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: allegiance to a foreign land, you could not argue that

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01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship attaches. This is the line of cases so

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Speaker 1: sour The Solicitor General John Sower is arguing that the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court should take into account that this The Elk v.

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Speaker 1: Wilkins decision is actually closer than Wong kim ark, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, did provide an exception. And again like

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Speaker 1: none of this illegal immigration was never contemplated. So when

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Speaker 1: you do constitutional analysis, you look at first the plane

1026
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Speaker 1: meaning of the statute or the constitutional precept or amendment.

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Speaker 1: The plain meaning here is okay, all children born in

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Speaker 1: the United States are citizens. But you can then take

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Speaker 1: a step further and look at legislative intent. Would it

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Speaker 1: have been the intent of the framers of the Fourteenth

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Speaker 1: Amendment back in the eighteen sixties to say, Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a whole bunch of people from Mexico

1033
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Speaker 1: just kind of coming in here, essentially invading and saying,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're going to set up a little Mexico

1035
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Speaker 1: here within the borders of the United States. They of

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Speaker 1: course would have rejected that idea that birthright citizenship applies.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just completely just solely like the law

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Speaker 1: of the soil, there is also some It goes a

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Speaker 1: little bit beyond that, and it comes down to what

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Speaker 1: the interpretation is of jurisdiction, Like what does jurisdiction mean?

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Speaker 1: But in the example that I've been citing, clearly jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: does not simply extend to Okay, if you can be

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Speaker 1: arrested in the United States, you have jurisdiction of the

1044
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Speaker 1: United States has jurisdiction over you. Well, a part of

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Speaker 1: that would rather obviously include participation in the democratic process,

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Speaker 1: right which illegal aliens cannot. They are not subject to

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Speaker 1: that jurisdiction. They have no say or no power in

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Speaker 1: the jurisdiction of the United States when it comes to

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Speaker 1: choosing our leaders. Just as I would have no say

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Speaker 1: in the Czech elections, I would not be able to

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Speaker 1: take part of that. Even though I could be jailed,

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Speaker 1: I could be imprisoned, I could be you know, done whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever they actually want me to do. That I am

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Speaker 1: subject to the jurisdic of common criminal laws or municipal

1055
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Speaker 1: ordinances all right, as you could imagine, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson,

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Speaker 1: she wants birthright citizenship to continue. Rather obviously, John Sower,

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Speaker 1: the Solicitor General, just gave a master class responding to

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Speaker 1: her not particularly well thought out questions about exactly how

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Speaker 1: this would work out. She tries cornering Sour on what

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Speaker 1: we would do when a woman, a female migrant, gives

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Speaker 1: birth in an American hospital, and Sour's answer was just spectacular.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 5: There's currently a system where, for example, security social Security

1064
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Speaker 5: numbers are generated based on the birth certificate. They say,

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Speaker 5: this can still be for the vast majority of instance,

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Speaker 5: it is completely transparent. You will still get a.

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Speaker 6: Transparent I'm just talking about the particulars because now you

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Speaker 6: say your rule turns on whether the person intended to

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Speaker 6: stay in the United States, and I think Justice Barrett

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Speaker 6: brought this up. So we're bringing pregnant women in for depositions.

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Speaker 6: What are we doing to figure this out? Now?

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Speaker 5: As I pointed out earlier, the executive order turns on

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Speaker 5: lawfulness of steps. So if you give birth to a

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Speaker 5: baby in the hospital right now, it gets the birth

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Speaker 5: certificate in the system.

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Speaker 1: There's a computer system, so there's no opportunity.

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Speaker 6: There's apparently no opportunity then for the person to prove

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Speaker 6: or to say that they actually intended to stay in

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Speaker 6: the United Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: The opposite is true.

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Speaker 5: Their opportunity to dispute if they think they were wrongly denied,

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Speaker 5: which would only happen in tiny.

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Speaker 1: Minority of cases.

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Speaker 5: After this directly addressing that guy after.

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Speaker 6: The fact that after their baby has been denied citizenship,

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Speaker 6: then we can go through the process and.

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Speaker 5: The way that I mean, I'm summarizing because I'm not

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Speaker 5: an expert computers, but there's a computer program that currently

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Speaker 5: automatically generates a social Security number. As to say, he says,

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Speaker 5: look a social security number. Non citizens can have them

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Speaker 5: if they work authorizations. Who doesn't prove citizenship, We'll give

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Speaker 5: you a social Security number. Provide that there's the system

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Speaker 5: automatically checks the immigration stats the parents, which they are

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Speaker 5: robust databases for, and then appears no different to the

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Speaker 5: vast majority of birthing parents.

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Speaker 1: That ultimately, folks, I don't know what is going to

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Speaker 1: happen with birthright citizenship. I am not a believer in

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Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves of oral argument to try to

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Speaker 1: determine how justices are going to vote. Clearly, I can

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Speaker 1: tell that Katanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan and Sonya

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Speaker 1: Sotomayor are going to vote to continue birthright citizenship for

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Speaker 1: illegal limorty. You could just tell because it's something that

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Speaker 1: would benefit the Democrat Party. John Roberts sounds skeptical. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about Amy Cony. Barrett, you better believe that

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Speaker 1: Alito and Thomas are going to vote to end it

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Speaker 1: because of the constitutional analysis I just sort of laid out. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think the policy behind ending

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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship clearly just makes sense. Listening to the Dan

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Speaker 1: o'donald Show, Welcome back to the Dan o'donald Show. Just

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left in this hour. We got

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Speaker 1: to take another commercial break and then get to the

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Speaker 1: five o'clock news. So we are going to push back

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Speaker 1: that big story about the nonprofit New Cap in the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay area which collapsed yesterday. It announced that it

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Speaker 1: is shutting its doors effective immediately. We are also going

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Speaker 1: to get into in the five o'clock hour the sudden

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Speaker 1: rash of teacher student sex scandals child sexual assault cases

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Speaker 1: coming out of Wisconsin schools. It seems like we're getting

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Speaker 1: an average of one every week or so now, and

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Speaker 1: we just had the single biggest sex scandal in Wisconsin's

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Speaker 1: school history, the federal lawsuit filed over the Oconto Falls

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Speaker 1: School District. We are going to dive into that as well.

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Speaker 1: A related story to the birthright citizenship oral arguments today,

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Speaker 1: President Trump signing an executive order yesterday afternoon titled in

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Speaker 1: Ensuring Citizenship verification and integrity in federal elections. What that

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Speaker 1: order does is to direct DHS to compile lists of

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Speaker 1: confirmed US citizens of voting age residing in each state

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Speaker 1: using federal databases. The order further instructs the Postal Service

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Speaker 1: to transmit mail in and absentee ballots only to individuals

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Speaker 1: on each state's approved mail in and absentee participation list.

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Speaker 1: It also requires ballots to use secure envelopes marked as

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Speaker 1: official election mail with unique intelligent mail barcodes for tracking.

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Speaker 1: The states under this order also have to provide advanced

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Speaker 1: lists of intended mail in voters around sixty days before

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Speaker 1: all federal elections and all this aims to ensure that

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Speaker 1: only verified eligible voters receive and return ballots through the

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Speaker 1: mail system. Now, there have already been promises, as you

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Speaker 1: could imagine that this is going to be challenged in court.

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Speaker 1: I actually question whether or not this is I've gone

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Speaker 1: back and forth ever since I was watching the signing

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Speaker 1: ceremony yesterday sort of in between doing this show. The

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Speaker 1: President had that ceremony while we were on the area yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I do believe it is lawful, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a close call. Obviously, obviously we all share

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Speaker 1: the same goals, except of course, for Democrats who know

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Speaker 1: that there are clearly people who are not citizens of

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Speaker 1: the United States who are voting in federal elections. Why

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Speaker 1: else would they go to this length to try to

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Speaker 1: keep non citizens voting if they didn't think non citizens

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Speaker 1: were What does it matter if you have to prove

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Speaker 1: your citizenship. What the Trump administration is doing, though, is

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Speaker 1: I could see being challenged as a sort of disenfranchisement,

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Speaker 1: like the government say, Okay, well, you just happen to

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Speaker 1: not be on this list. It could be due to

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Speaker 1: clerical error, It could be due to any number of

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Speaker 1: things not related to you not being a citizen. Well,

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Speaker 1: you request a mail in ballot, it just kind of

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Speaker 1: never comes. If you truly are unable to actually get

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Speaker 1: to a polling place, you theoretically could be disenfranchised. You

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Speaker 1: just never get your ballot, you never have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to vote. That would be a very very bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Do I think that's going to be a common occurrence. No,

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Speaker 1: But that's the grounds on which it's almost certainly going

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Speaker 1: to be sued by lefties. The broader issue here is

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Speaker 1: verification of citizenship before you vote. The only reason that

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Speaker 1: Democrats don't want this in spite of the fact that

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Speaker 1: well more than eighty percent of the electorate wants voter

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Speaker 1: IDs and well more than two thirds of the electorate

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Speaker 1: wants proof of citizenship in order to help secure elections

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Speaker 1: to ensure that only American citizens are voting. Democrats don't

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Speaker 1: want this because there's folks. There is no other logical

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Speaker 1: explanation this ideal. Well, women who change their names wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to prove that they're sat. Give me a break.

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Speaker 1: Women change, They have to deal with that on every

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Speaker 1: government document. Oh, your birth certificate's in a different name. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well you show that you've gotten married. Oh well, we

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Speaker 1: can't show the marriage certificate. Most people have passports. If

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Speaker 1: you don't have a passport, get a passport, very very easy.

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Speaker 1: Plus international travel is fantastic. I cannot possibly recommend it enough.

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Speaker 1: In fact, just a couple of weeks, we're taking a

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Speaker 1: group of listeners. As I said in the last segment,

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Speaker 1: to the Czech Republic, we will try to avoid breaking

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Speaker 1: any laws so that we are not subject to the

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Speaker 1: jurisdiction of the Czech Republic's criminal justice system. But obviously

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Speaker 1: the America Act needs to pass to take care of

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Speaker 1: all of this stuff. All right, got a step aside

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Speaker 1: for a break. Five o'clock hour coming up next. You're

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Speaker 1: on the Dan o'donald Show. Welcome back to the dano'donald Show.

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Speaker 1: It is conservative thought, not just talk. A reminder our

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Speaker 1: big exclusive story that we broke right at the top

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Speaker 1: of the show. Start of it at the three o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: Chris Taylor, as an appeals court judge, has violated the

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Speaker 1: ethics rules that she herself introduced as a member of

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Speaker 1: this state legislature. It's actually kind of incredible. Check it

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Speaker 1: out online at Heartlandpost dot com. That is our brand

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Speaker 1: check that story out. It's also on my social media

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Speaker 1: at Dan O'Donnell's show, across x Facebook and Instagram. It

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Speaker 1: is everywhere. And just because Taylor's proposed law did not

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Speaker 1: get signed, she proposed that if you have a donation

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Speaker 1: from a group totaling one thousand dollars or more as

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Speaker 1: a judge, you need to recuse yourself from any case

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Speaker 1: involving that group, and that actually seems like pretty common

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Speaker 1: sense legislation, believe it or not, even though it didn't pass.

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Speaker 1: This does not mean that Taylor and her dealings with

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Speaker 1: the Sierra Club did not amount to a conflict of interest,

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Speaker 1: a severe one that she needed to recuse herself from

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Speaker 1: in multiple cases involving the Sierra Club. In fact, in

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Speaker 1: one where she was actually on a three judge panel

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Speaker 1: that handed a big win to the Sierra Club itself,

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Speaker 1: a severe conflict of interest there. It raises significant questions

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Speaker 1: about her, her integrity, her personal ethics, about all of it,

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Speaker 1: and you can check it out at the Heartland Post.

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Speaker 1: If you missed the three o'clock hour when we discuss this,

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Speaker 1: if you missed the four o'clock hour when we discussed

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Speaker 1: the birthright citizenship oral arguments at the US Supreme Court today,

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Speaker 1: New Cap, the deeply troubled nonprofit organization serving the greater

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Speaker 1: Green Bay area, abruptly shut down yesterday amid growing calls

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Speaker 1: for a criminal investigation in what certainly looks like widespread fraud.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and thirty four low income households are at

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Speaker 1: risk of losing rent support. This according to the Heartland Post,

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Speaker 1: prompting Republican lawmakers to demand a criminal investigation into suspected

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Speaker 1: mismanagement and potential misuse of public funds. New CAP is

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Speaker 1: a community agency, a nonprofit that served ten counties, and

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Speaker 1: after months of financial turmoil, it announced suddenly that it's

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Speaker 1: closing immediately. In twenty twenty three, the organization reported nineteen

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Speaker 1: point three million dollars in revenue against twenty one point

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Speaker 1: three million dollars in expenses. An audit of its finances

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four flagged substantial doubt about Newcap's ability

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Speaker 1: to continue operating. Federal spending through Newcap hit ten point

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars in twenty twenty four. Another three million

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Speaker 1: came from this Wisconsin. So about fourteen million dollars is

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Speaker 1: flowing through this organization in federal taxpayer funds in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four alone, and it's frittering away all of it.

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Speaker 1: The sudden shutdown, according to the Heartland Post, blindsided employees

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Speaker 1: who were informed they no longer had jobs, as well

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Speaker 1: as clients relying on HOOD funded housing assistance. Nearly one

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Speaker 1: hundred families in the Green Bay area, including dozens experiencing

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Speaker 1: chronic homelessness, face disruption. State Representative David Stephen, a Republican

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Speaker 1: from the area, is now calling for Attorney General Josh

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Speaker 1: Call to open a criminal investigation in what, folks, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to outline in a second, this just looks like

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Speaker 1: massive and widespread fraud. Stephan said, there needs to be

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Speaker 1: some accountability. The only way we're going to get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of it is if we have a comprehensive

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Speaker 1: criminal investigation. Now, this comes two days after US Representatives

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Speaker 1: Brian Style and Tony Wead called for a federal investigation,

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Speaker 1: either by HOOD or the Department of Justice into Newcaps finances.

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Speaker 1: Why do I say this is almost certainly fraud? Former

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Speaker 1: employees told Fox eleven in Green Bay that leadership reportedly

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Speaker 1: gathered at multiple occasions to just sort of invent service

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Speaker 1: numbers that didn't exist to satisfy grant requirements and continue

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Speaker 1: receiving funds. In other words, what they were doing is

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Speaker 1: inventing case numbers so that they could justify the money

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Speaker 1: that was flowing in. This is a classic sign of fraud.

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Speaker 1: You want the money to come in, but the money

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Speaker 1: is not going out to help people in need. It's

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Speaker 1: not helping with rent assistants. Apparently Newcap did a lot

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Speaker 1: of work with weatherization of homes for lower income people

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Speaker 1: who might not be able to afford the repairs or

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01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: upgrades themselves. They were just sort of inventing case numbers,

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01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: inventing people that were supposedly going to get this money. Well,

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01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:14,440
Speaker 1: the money never went out the door. The money instead

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01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: was apparently diverted to the now former CEO, Cheryl Dietrich

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Speaker 1: or Detrick. Her salary more than doubled. It hit about

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty thousand dollars just in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Other funds were according to these whistleblowers,

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Speaker 1: telling both charitywatch dot org and Fox eleven online that

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Speaker 1: the funds were used for expensive conferences, team building trips

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Speaker 1: and dinners, lavish dinners at luxury restaurants, and excessive benefits

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Speaker 1: for connected people instead of going to the port. This

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01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 1: is again your core classic and I mean your classic

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: example of potential fraud. Not only that, twenty twenty five

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01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: audit conducted by Baker Tilley raised serious concerns about Newcap's

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01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: financial condition. There was very obvious concern that the money

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 1: was just not going to be They weren't going to

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Speaker 1: be able to make up for the financial deficit. So

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Speaker 1: when you have employees saying, when you have people who

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01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: are coming forward to tell the local news that you've

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01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: got their meeting in secret here to falsify case numbers, well,

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01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: guess what, that's a pretty good sign that something is

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01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: not on the up and up State Senator Jamie wall, A,

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: Democrat of Green Bay, told Fox eleven that he's been

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01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: speaking with Newcap officials about a review of the organization's finances.

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01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: He said, they're digging into the books and trying to

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01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: have an accurate picture of the organization's finances. Then they

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01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: can make a decision about whether they need to file

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: for bankruptcy. I haven't seen the books, Wall said, but

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01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: I've talked to people about the situation and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good. No, of course it doesn't. An open records

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: request Fox eleven made to the Wisconsin Department of Health

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01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: Services is providing examples of the requirements Newcap is supposed

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: to follow. Most call for compliance checks in the form

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01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: of monthly or quarterly reports. A former Newcap employee with

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01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: decades of construction experience tells Fox eleven when it was

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01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: time to provide those reports, leadership would gather in a

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01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: room and often come up with numbers seemingly out of nowhere.

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01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Evan Dudak, who worked in interim housing at Newcap, shared

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01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 1: a similar experience. I was being asked to give numbers

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01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: that just did not exist, he said. I saw other departments,

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01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: I saw my departments, and just at a glance, most

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01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: of it didn't even make sense of what's going out

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01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: as to what's coming in. But then all the department

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01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: heads are being told to make sense of it. Huh interesting.

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01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: Fox eleven, which has done just incredible reporting on this, says,

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 1: is the government following up on the requirements it lays

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: out when it agrees to give grant money to ensure

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01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,879
Speaker 1: the money is being utilized properly. Through our open records

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01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: request to DHS, Fox eleven investigates looked further into one

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01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: grant that a former employee told us was concerning. The

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: state provided Newcap with one hundred thousand dollars for suicide prevention.

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Forty nine page grant agreement states Newcap was to use

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: the money to implement digital literacy program for rural men

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01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: age twenty five and older, as well as install mental

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Speaker 1: health kiosks at its facilities in Marinette, Shawano, Forest, Violence

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Speaker 1: in Oneida Counties. The Grand Agreement stays. Newcap states. NEWCAP

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01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,879
Speaker 1: had from between February first of twenty four and January

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01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: fifteenth of twenty five to install the kiosks and provide

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01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: picture proof. Fox eleven asked Dietrich specifically about the kiosks

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01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 1: in Marinet and Forest Counties. She admitted the one in

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01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Marinet was installed in approximately June of twenty twenty five,

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01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: five months after the deadline and fifteen months after NEWCAP

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01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: received the state grant money. She says in Forest County,

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01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: technology was deployed in phases during fall twenty twenty five,

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01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: with updated equipment in place by mid January twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: That's a year after the end of the government's given

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01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: time frame and nearly two years after NEWCAP received the

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01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: state grant money. If that's the case, that's a failure

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01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: set well, that's a failure of oversight, and it's a

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01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: failure of of service delivery, and we should expect more.

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: Despite what Dietrich told us, Box eleven continues. Our records

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01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 1: request shows NEWCAP told the state in January twenty twenty

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01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: five it had all five telemental health kiosks installed, meeting

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01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 1: the state's imposed deadline. In other words, it lied another

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01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: classic example and classic evidence of what appears to be

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01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: massive fraud, one hundred thousand dollars comes in. There is

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01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: no documentation of any sort of delay in getting these

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01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: kiosks out, like say, the kiosks themselves were not able

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01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: to be manufactured or delivered on time, and it takes

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01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: a year for any of this to actually be done.

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Speaker 1: Why because the money wasn't actually spent on what it

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01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: was supposed to be spent on. The money was never

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01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: spent on the kiosks. It was only well after the

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Speaker 1: time frame that the kiosks were supposed to be installed

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01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: that they're going back and say, oh, okay, now we

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01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: got to put the kiosks in. Meanwhile, they're lying to

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01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: the state and saying, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, kiosks totally installed.

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Speaker 1: No problems here. And it's only revealed much later through

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Speaker 1: these open records requests that Fox eleven did that the

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Speaker 1: kiosks were never actually installed at all until it appeared okay,

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Speaker 1: we can no longer delay this. We have to finally

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01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: install these kiosks, and they finally get there you know

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01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 1: what together and get them out there. Finally they have

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01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: to install it because they know the heat is on again.

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Speaker 1: This is just classic. And I'm not saying I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the finances of new CAP. I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling you that, based on years and years and

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01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: years of experience and looking at these things, when you have,

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Speaker 1: especially a government backed organization, an NGO and nonprofit something

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01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: like that, when they shut down the second the heat

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01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: is on as it is now, that is a pretty

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01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: good indicator that not everything is on the up and up.

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01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: It's a pretty good indicator that you've got some fraud

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01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: going on, or in the case of Newcap, probably a lot.

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01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: The big political angle in all of this and why

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01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: it is so important to know who is on your

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01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: local ballot coming up in just three minutes when The

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Speaker 1: Dan o'donald Show returns, Welcome back. It is the Dan

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01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: o'donald Show. It is a tour de force of truth.

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01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 1: We provide intelligent discourse and irreverent fun, hopefully both in

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01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: equal measure. NEWCAP, the embattled nonprofit, it shut its yesterday

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01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 1: very abruptly, yet again showing that there does appear to

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01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 1: be widespread fraud in social welfare programs, both at the

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Speaker 1: individual level as well as the institutional organizational level. And

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Speaker 1: this is why it is unconscionable that Governor Evers is

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01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 1: refusing to turnover SNAP benefit data our food stamp program

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Speaker 1: to the federal government. The way that federal benefits typically work,

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01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: that the food share program SNAP benefits in particular, it's

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01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: it's ludicrous in how it works. The federal government just

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01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: basically writes a check to the states without ever doing

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01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: any verification as to whether the states are properly paying

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01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: out benefits. So it's a federally funded program that's administered

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01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: by the states. Obviously, we said in the Daily Trump

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01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Date that Vice President Vance just swore in an assistant

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01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:04,839
Speaker 1: Attorney General whose job is going to be specifically finding

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01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 1: and rooting out fraud. Well, in order to find that fraud,

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01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: you have to have the data available. Governor Evers and

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01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Attorney General Josh Colt not only refused to turn over

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01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: that data, they joined a multi state lawsuit suing the

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01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: federal government over having to release that data. Now, how

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01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: insane is that? How insane? And what does it tell

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01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: you? You would think that the state of Wisconsin and the

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01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: other twenty states involved in this lawsuit would have a

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01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: vested interest in protecting their residence money. Ultimately, this is

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01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: money that comes from you and I, John Q taxpayer

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01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: that is going to pay fraudulent claims by people across

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01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and yes, Somali fraudsters in Minneapolis. That's why all

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01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: of the fraud uncovered by Nick Shirley, it was so

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01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: eye opening. It led to obviously the Minneapolis metro surge

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: of ICE agents, which, in hindsight, because of how insane

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01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 1: liberals reacted to it, was probably a mistake. President Trump

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01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,959
Speaker 1: should have instead done what he's doing in other states

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01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: that are simpotico with actual illegal immigration enforcement. Memphis, Tennessee

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01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: classic has had that. That state has been completely the

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01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: city has been completely cleaned up by ICE agents and

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01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: other federal forces coming in to assist local law enforcement

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01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: because you've got a Republican governor who, unlike Tim Walls,

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01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: is not inciting people to violence against ICE or other

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: federal agents. But I digress. The fraud that Nick Shirley

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01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: found right after Christmas was so eye opening because it

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01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: was so in your face. By the way, He's just

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01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: done a series of reports in showing that apparently there

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01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: is a home hospice center on every corner of the

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01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: streets of Los Angeles. Here in Wisconsin, I think people

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01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: remember the daycare scam that was prevalent in the nineties

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01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: and early to mid two thousands. Well to the state's credit,

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01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: there was a huge crackdown I believe it was under

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: Diamond Jim Doyle, and then it continued under Governor Walker

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01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: in the early twenty tens. What would happen is women

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01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: in inner city Milwaukee would claim to open Smiley Time

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01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: daycare and they would even maybe put out a shingle

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01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: in front of their house claiming that they had a daycare.

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01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 1: Well they didn't actually watch any kids, or maybe they did,

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01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: and it would be like, okay, on Monday, all the

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01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: kids go to you know, Granny Jenkins's home on the neighborhood,

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01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: you know, on the block, and then on two all

1449
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: the kids go to Granny Smith's Apple Farm. No daycare center.

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01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: That this was the scam. It wasn't actually a daycare center.

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01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: It was just you know, parents or grandparents babysitting kids

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01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: if there were any kids. So there's a huge crackdown

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01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 1: on that. Now it seems as though and Democrats were

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01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: the ones who said, look, this is stealing from the

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01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: hardworking people of Wisconsin. We want to crack down on this,

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01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: we want to make sure this doesn't happen again. Well,

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01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: in just ten fifteen years, you have Democrats now saying, well,

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01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: we can't crack down, We're going to sue to prevent

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01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: a crackdown on this. And lo and behold, after a

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Speaker 1: couple of high profile examples here in Wisconsin of Snap

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01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: benefits fraud. You just had a woman convicted of federal

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01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: charges in the Eastern District of Wisconsin. It was a

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01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: benefits fraud. You just had a guy who was running

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01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: a mini mart I believe he was living in Frankly,

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01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: he was running a mini mart in Milwaukee. He was

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01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: defrauding SNAT. He was just taking Snap out of his

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01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: filing claims for Snap benefits that never existed. He was

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01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: pocketing cash from people who were basically selling him their

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01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: their Snap benefits or he was selling them Snap. The

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01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 1: bottom line, he was taking in government money and using

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01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: it to buy like Gucci bags and you know, luxury

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01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: travel and all that sort of classic fraud. And that

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01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: brings us to New Cap, an organization that took in

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01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars in twenty twenty four A loon. That

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01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: just staggering to me. They have revenue of nineteen million

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01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: bucks in twenty twenty three, expenses of twenty one million dollars,

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01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 1: huge deficity. Yet they still get fourteen million bucks in

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01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, most recent year obviously for which full

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01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: data is available, eleven million from the d's three million

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Speaker 1: from the state of Wisconsin. We have no idea what

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01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 1: they actually did with that. As Fox eleven reported, they

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01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:16,480
Speaker 1: were pretending to install these telehealth kiosks across the northeastern

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01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: part of the state. They never did. They pocketed one

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01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and then just never installed the kiosks

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01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: until well after the deadline, all the while telling the

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01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got

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01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: all five of the kiosks we were supposed to put

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01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: up installed by the state imposed deadlines. There is a

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Speaker 1: big local politics component to this. The chairman of the

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Speaker 1: board of Newcap, as we reported exclusively on the Dan

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01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: O'Donnell show a couple of days ago, is Jim Genrick.

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01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Not only is Jim Genrick the father of Green Bay's

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01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:57,599
Speaker 1: Democrat mayor Eric Genrick, who violated any number of state

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: laws in the way he had the twenty twenty presidential

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01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: election in Green Bay. He very unlawfully usurped authority to

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: administer the election from his own city clerk, who resigned

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01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: in disgusted in the middle of the election cycle. Jim

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01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: Genrick is Eric Genrick's father. He was the treasurer of

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01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: the Board of Directors of NEWCAP. Not only that he

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01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 1: is running to keep his seat on the Village Board

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01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: of Alloway, he is a village trustee. The same guy

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01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: who was the treasurer of the board, by definition, the

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01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: member of the board who was supposed to be most

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01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: responsible for understanding the finances of NEWCAP, wants to be

1505
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 1: re elected as a village trustee. This, by the way,

1506
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: is why we put together the State's ultimate Conservative voter Guide,

1507
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: so you aren't stuck voting for somebody like Jim Genrik

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01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: in the Village of Alloway, not knowing how apparently corrupt

1509
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: he is. Again, we don't know. I have not seen

1510
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:16,759
Speaker 1: the books for New CAP, but all of the evidence,

1511
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: Folks is pointing in one very specific direction that this

1512
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 1: is a case of massive fraud, that this in fact

1513
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,480
Speaker 1: might be one of the biggest cases of nonprofit organization

1514
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: fraud swindling of taxpayer dollars in the history of Wisconsin.

1515
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 1: State Rep. David Stephen calling for a criminal investigation. I

1516
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 1: don't believe at all that you're going to see a

1517
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 1: criminal investigation launched by the Wisconsin Department of Justice. So

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01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: long as Josh call is ag Eric Tony, he's running

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01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: again for attorney general. He wins and boiled boy, he'd

1520
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: better win, You'd better believe that there will be a

1521
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: criminal investigator. I believe the Feds need to be involved.

1522
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: I believe the sheer volume of federal tax dollars that

1523
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 1: appear to have been misused. Look, we have evidence in

1524
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: the form of whistleblower complaints. We have evidence in the

1525
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: form of the CEO's pay more than doubling to two

1526
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand dollars at the exact same time.

1527
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: The money appears to not be going to help the

1528
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: homeless or to help weatherization of low income households houses.

1529
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 1: She's getting paid double. We have evidence that the higher

1530
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: level staff is treating itself to luxurious travel. They're going

1531
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: to conferences. Now that in and of itself is not

1532
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,839
Speaker 1: evidence of fraud. But if the money that was going

1533
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: for that was supposed to be going towards help the

1534
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: poor is instead going to This is my favorite a

1535
01:42:55,360 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: team building exercise. Ay did team building exercises at fancy restaurants.

1536
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 1: You couldn't have done a mini golf outing for ten

1537
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: bucks a pop. No no, no, no no. We got

1538
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: to get steak and lobsters and moet at one of

1539
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: the nicest restaurants in Green Bay. Again, classic fraud behavior.

1540
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 1: Leaders of an organization live high on the hog all

1541
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: the while they're not accurately reporting what money is coming

1542
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: in from the government, what money is going out to

1543
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: poor people, because it's not actually going out to poor people.

1544
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 1: This is why there needs to be microscopic oversight of

1545
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: You have to look at with it with a Sherlock

1546
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Homes magnifying glass into every one of these organizations. The

1547
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: vast majority are doing great work, I'm sure, But if

1548
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: there's no oversight the people involved in these organizations know

1549
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: there's no oversight from any level of government, what do

1550
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen? Human nature says, oh well, okay,

1551
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: nobody's looking. I can take an extra couple of dollars

1552
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: for myself. Just look at how many times do we see,

1553
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 1: at a very very small level, your local youth sports team,

1554
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: and you've got Judy who's been in charge of the

1555
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: finances for years, apparently has been stealing greater and greater

1556
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: and greater amounts until she's finally arrested for embezzlement. That

1557
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 1: appears to be what's going on here, Only it's not

1558
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: registration fees from the local baseball team. This is your money,

1559
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: this is my money. This is all of our money,

1560
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: as hardworking taxpayers of the state of Wisconsin, just being

1561
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: taken from us by people who apparently don't care about oversight,

1562
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 1: aided by people in government like Josh call and like

1563
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 1: tone Evers who would rather sue the Trump administration than

1564
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of widespread fraud in this country

1565
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and protect taxpayers like you and me, folks. This is

1566
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 1: why it is local elections are so important, because you

1567
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: do have people like Jim Genrick up and down state government,

1568
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:28,560
Speaker 1: up and down local government. You need to vote them out.

1569
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 1: You need to when you hear about their alleged misdeeds.

1570
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: And again, I do not know what Genrick or anybody

1571
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 1: else on the board was aware of when they were

1572
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,600
Speaker 1: aware of it. But boy, oh boy, it seems to

1573
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: defy all reason and logic to suggest that Genrick had,

1574
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: as the treasurer of the board, had no idea what

1575
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,839
Speaker 1: was going on in the organization that he was hired

1576
01:45:53,880 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 1: to oversee in the position of treasurer. No less, This, folks,

1577
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: is why one of the most important things the Trump

1578
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:09,799
Speaker 1: administration can do is crack down on fraud across the country,

1579
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 1: because you know, Democrat run states like Wisconsin are not

1580
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: going to do it. On behalf of you and me.

1581
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dan o'donald show, Conservative thought, not

1582
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 1: just talk. It is the Dan o' donald's show. Reminder,

1583
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,839
Speaker 1: keep those texts coming as we continue the state's largest

1584
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: early vote drive. Just a quick programming announcement. I am

1585
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: taking a Thursday and Friday off. I have got some

1586
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,640
Speaker 1: personal things to attend to. Just taking up essentially a

1587
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: long vacation, also for Easter Easter, of course. Is this

1588
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: Sunday tomorrow, boy, Holy Thursday, or if you will, Maundy

1589
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:55,759
Speaker 1: Thursday already tomorrow? Good Friday? Of course on Friday. Okay,

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01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: I know the proper term is Mandy Thursday. I never

1591
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: remember it being called that when I went to Catholic school.

1592
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I went to Marquette University, and before that, I went

1593
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,799
Speaker 1: to Saint Mary's Hill's Corners. I promise I do not remember.

1594
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 1: I would have remembered. I think when I was a

1595
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: kid hearing the word Maundy because it's just it's it's

1596
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,879
Speaker 1: it's a word you don't hear. Very odd. I always

1597
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 1: heard it called Holy Thursday. I don't know. So it's

1598
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Holy Thursday to me, even though most of you call

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01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: it Mandy Thursday. Regardless, it is the It is the

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01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 1: celebration of the last Supper that Jesus had with his disciples.

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01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 1: All Right, we have a very serious problem, it seems

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01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin's school districts. Schools here have seen a sudden

1603
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:52,719
Speaker 1: rash of sexual misconduct cases by teachers in the past

1604
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. There have been within the last four

1605
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 1: weeks two arrests against Madison Metropolitan School District teachers for

1606
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: sexual assault against students. Fifty eight year old David Fawcett,

1607
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 1: who is a teacher at Nuestro Mundo Community School. He

1608
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,560
Speaker 1: was arrested back in February on charges of sexual exploitation

1609
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 1: of a child three counts of possession of child pornography.

1610
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Fawcett allegedly sent explicit messages and solicited nude photos and

1611
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: videos from a fifteen year old girl. He's placed on

1612
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: administrative lead by the district. He has now been indicted

1613
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 1: on federal charges of producing child pornography. Just a couple

1614
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 1: of weeks later, ELIAV. M. Goldman, a music teacher at

1615
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 1: both vil Phillips High School and Toki or Talkie Middle School,

1616
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 1: he was arrested on charges of grooming a child, causing

1617
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 1: mental harm to a child, sexual misconduct by a school

1618
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: staff member. He, of course, also has been placed on

1619
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: administrative leave. The arrest came just boy two weeks after

1620
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: the Republican legislature passed a new law making the grooming

1621
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: of a child a felony. Shockingly, Governor Reavers actually signed

1622
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 1: that bill into law. Its primary author, Amanda need Wesky,

1623
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 1: did a great job in getting that passed. Then you

1624
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 1: had the case of Nadia M. Horn, twenty two years old,

1625
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 1: special ed teacher at North High School. She's arrested March

1626
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: twenty fifth, so last Wednesday, on charges of second degree

1627
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: sexual assault of a child by a school staff person.

1628
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Police said the district notified them of a potential inappropriate

1629
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: relationship reported to a school resource officer. Investigators identified multiple victims.

1630
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Horn is in the Eau Claire County jail. Now this

1631
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 1: all comes amid what just might be the single biggest

1632
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: teacher sex scandal in the history of this state. March eleventh,

1633
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: three former students filed a federal lawsuit against the Oconto

1634
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: Falls School District. They claimed a twenty plus year pattern

1635
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 1: of teacher student grooming and sexual misconduct and abuse. The

1636
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: suit named eight current or former employees and that the

1637
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: district's board maintained unwritten policies of just delivered indifference. Plaintiffs

1638
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 1: said in a news conference the day the lawsuit was

1639
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: filed that they only learned the full scope of how

1640
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: bad things got last fall. Former students and two former

1641
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:52,080
Speaker 1: teachers have since come forward. That brings the total number

1642
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: of known victims or alleged victims here to at least fourteen.

1643
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: From two thousand and five to twenty twenty five, a

1644
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: total of nine staff members were named. A former substitute

1645
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: teacher and volleyball coach by the name of Bryn Larson

1646
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 1: pleaded no contest five years ago to third degree sexual

1647
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: assault of a student. She served two years in prison.

1648
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Gail Gander, an English teacher, was arrested in December on

1649
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: charges of child enticement sexual misconduct involving multiple students. She's

1650
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: awaiting trial. The district says it investigated and referred prior

1651
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 1: complaints to law enforcement. Now that's not all. Let's go

1652
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: back to December. Former Hudson Elementary teacher Madison Bergman, twenty

1653
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 1: six years old, sentenced to six years in prison. She

1654
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to child enticement sexual misconduct involving an eleven

1655
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 1: year old student in her class. The relationship included thousands

1656
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: of text messages sent back of an eleven year old. Now,

1657
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: last year, you might recall, The Pitt Times published an

1658
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: incredible series on how the Department of Public Instruction systematically

1659
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:13,679
Speaker 1: swept these sorts of investigations into teacher misconduct, especially sexual

1660
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:18,280
Speaker 1: misconduct under the rug. It was titled Dismissed, and it

1661
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 1: found that DPI reviewed more than two hundred cases of

1662
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 1: alleged sexual misconduct or grooming in just a five year period.

1663
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: That was forty plus percent of all teacher license investigations

1664
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: in that random five year period were for a sexual

1665
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: misconduct that seems insanely high. Now. The series concluded that

1666
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: dpi's practices kept the details of these investigations from public view.

1667
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Teachers and other non school staff members were allowed to

1668
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: simply quietly surrender their licenses or continue teaching without any

1669
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: clear disclosure to the public of what the investigation found. Now,

1670
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: school districts themselves tried desperately to keep the results of

1671
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: these investigations hidden. They would charge thousands of dollars. The

1672
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: capital Time says some of these school districts said, okay,

1673
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: you can have the records into these investigations. Could have

1674
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 1: cost you two thousand dollars. Come on, how how to

1675
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: provide a digital record that you can do a search on?

1676
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Give me a break. Clearly attempting to cover up the

1677
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,600
Speaker 1: results of these investigations or the fact that these investigations

1678
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: were launched rather obviously what's been going on in the

1679
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks and now it seems like we're

1680
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 1: averaging a teacher sex scandal every single week. It's made

1681
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: it abundantly clear that DPI desperately needs to completely over

1682
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 1: how it handles these investigations and just as importantly, how

1683
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 1: it gets the information out there. To the public. Folks,

1684
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 1: we are saying, do you remember a generation ago when

1685
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: the priest sex abuse scandal in the Catholic Church just

1686
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: exploded and the biggest, the biggest scandal for the church

1687
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: itself was Okay, there are there are pedophile priests. There

1688
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 1: are a lot of pedophile priests that we're simply being

1689
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 1: moved around from parish to perish to perish without any

1690
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: actual accountability, any any referral to criminal authorities. Well, what

1691
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: the cap Times investigation found is something pretty similar is

1692
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 1: going on in Wisconsin's public schools. Making matter is even

1693
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: more nauseating is the fact that taxpayer funds are supporting

1694
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: these schools. Now we're seeing, Hey, maybe teacher sexual misconduct.

1695
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: Given all of the charges, the criminal charges that are

1696
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: coming to light and this federal lawsuit in Oconto Falls,

1697
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe this is way more widespread than any of us thought.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dan o'donald's show. Back to wrap

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Speaker 1: things up in just a second, just a couple of

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Speaker 1: minutes left here on the Dan o'donald's show. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to it. As I said, I am taking a couple

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Speaker 1: of days off, sort of a long Easter weekend I've

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Speaker 1: also got some stuff I need to take care of,

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Speaker 1: so I do beg your forgiveness. I believe is Jessica

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Speaker 1: McBride filling in tomorrow. I'm not entirely sure. They don't

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Speaker 1: share this stuff with me. It's only my show. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to know about it. Someone is going to

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Speaker 1: be filling in, and you should definitely listen because I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they will be doing a fantastic job. We are

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Speaker 1: going to keep the count going in the state's largest

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Speaker 1: early vote drive to try to keep you updated on

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Speaker 1: just how well we're doing and turning out the early vote.

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Speaker 1: Please do over the next two two days, folks, the

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Speaker 1: final two weekdays of in person early voting for most communities,

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Speaker 1: the final two days of in person early voting. Please

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Speaker 1: absolutely keep the momentum going. Please keep voting early, Please

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Speaker 1: keep letting me know about it. When I am back

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Speaker 1: on Easter Monday, I will bring you the final total,

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Speaker 1: the final tally of how many voters we were able

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Speaker 1: to turn out to the polls. So important that you

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Speaker 1: do vote early, because while most schools are on spring

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Speaker 1: break this week, a whole lot of them are on

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Speaker 1: spring break. Next week is very popular week for vacations.

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Speaker 1: If you are going to be out of town, make

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Speaker 1: sure you get your vote counted. It is so incredibly

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Speaker 1: important that we get as many votes out for Marial

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Speaker 1: Azar and for conservative candidates across this state. Please do

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Speaker 1: use the Ultimate Conservative Voter Guide. It's at Heartlandpost dot

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Speaker 1: com consultant. We've got an interactive map. Just click on

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Speaker 1: your county. We have got lists of conservative candidates all

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Speaker 1: across the state. All right, we are out of time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Have a great, have a joyous

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Speaker 1: and blessed Easter, ladies and gentlemen. Back Monday here on

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Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show.