1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: I love this paternal of the mic. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 2: Are we gone? 3 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Yes, we are. We got we got Dave log we 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: got right Edwards, we got Shelby. Harris was all, how 5 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: are we doing today? We're doing great, doing great, ranfam. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm about to have Malcolm Broch on a defensive line. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: Man. 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, big deal coming up. 9 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Here against Buffalo. I deny, you got to. 10 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: You just go third person on yourself. Oh you the intros. 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: No, I just said we've got as in the show. 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: You're right, I did. 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 2: That's what That's what I just thought. 14 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: You well, so I yeah, no, I don't right, there's 15 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: give a shovel I need I need the shovel. 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm here to dig out, Thank you, sir. 17 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Help you Not like last night when I said, full throat. 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Well, there's certain things. 19 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: I went home and told my wife about that. 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I bet you did, I guarantee. 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 4: She laughed. 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I can't believe he said that. 23 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 5: It's not like a you know, it's not a would 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 5: you finish that statement? It's not like a? 25 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: And then what. 26 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: It wasn't a bad thing that I said, it's a thing. 27 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: It's a common thing that yeah, well you're talking. 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: About it is a common thing that's said a lot. Yeah, 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 5: but not usually in this context, not at all, and 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 5: not usually in a room for Rea. Well, I mean maybe, 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 5: but I don't know, not if there's anything wrong with 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 5: the Bryan, but usually not. 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: I played it for my wife. It was like, I 34 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: was like, all right, you gotta know it was it 35 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: was I did, I did. I just read this, you know, 36 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm processing, I'm thinking about it. She thought she thought 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: it was very funny. She's like, yeah, you kind of 38 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: you ran into that one. I get I get it. No, 39 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I already know that, honey. 40 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's that's how it seems to me, like 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 5: you've made it. I won't say a practice, but you've 42 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 5: run into a few things. 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean just a few, ill livery Rick Lewis, But 44 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: yes I have. I've done a few a few things. 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: But Rick Rick still holds. Let me come on, rick Is. 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 5: He does it on purpose, and you do it without 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 5: knowing there's a big. 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 3: You got a natural response. 49 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh yeah, that's right. 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: I argue. 51 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm not gonna argue because I've already deep 52 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: enough here. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay six feet under 53 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: right now, and I'll I'll come back to you when I. 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: Can get about ground. I'll be so. 55 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: Malcolm Roach gonna join us here in just a little bit. 56 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 5: Was it? 57 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: We have an abbreviated show. We got to see you 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: basketball coming up at four thirty. We uh, I want 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: to get to the Dante more stuff at some point. 60 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: The dumbest move I've heard in a long time. 61 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you've. 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: Got to take advantage of a QB like a bad 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: TV draft. You gotta take advantage of it. You can't 64 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: you just fifty million? 65 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: I don't know, I fifty million if they. 66 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: Went number two overall, he gave up eight million dollars. 67 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: How do you figure that? That's what they said. 68 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: That's a slot. 69 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: That's how much it slotted. They said, last year's number 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: two pick fifty million. 71 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: Wow, in full contract. I wouldn't oh with this full contry, 72 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 5: fully guaranteed. I think it'll end up being like a 73 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 5: twenty eight. I was told by somebody that I think 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 5: I would know that would know what Dante Moore made 75 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 5: last year at. 76 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Quarterback for Oregon. I'm assuming like seven million. 77 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: A little more? 78 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: What? 79 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: Wow? 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: Really a little more? 81 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: Well? You know, Oregon definitely rolls it out. But then 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: that's crazy considering that they just brought in Dylan Roola too. 83 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: Well, see, I was gonna say, Dylan Roola has to 84 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 5: be the most disappointed. I don't know if you can 85 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: actually jump in the portal again, sign a deal and 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 5: then jump back in the portal like three days later, 87 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: I get. I don't even know if that's anymore, if 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: that's legal. 89 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I heard his perm flattened out as a result of this. Well, 90 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's at the Patrick Mahomes kind. 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: Of you know, is there any situation where, you know, 92 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: even though Dante Moore says he's not going to draft, 93 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: but does he enter the transfer port though? 94 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean you think so, right, I mean why why 95 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: would you? 96 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: I would be really shocked, like across some that situation 97 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: where I'm not going to enter the drafts Oregon unless 98 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 5: Oregon told him, hey, listen, we're going to go with Royola. 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: If they tell him that, I feel like they have 100 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: the in order to get Riola there. Obviously money's not 101 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: the issue, so he must have went there the pretenses 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: that he was going to play. 103 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: Is Dylan Royola in college been a better player than 104 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: Dante Moore? 105 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: No? No, no, no. 106 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: So if you're Dan Lanning. 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 5: Lanning, I mean you may have thought that Dante more 108 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 5: was going to go, but we all I mean to me, 109 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: if I got to make a choice between those two, 110 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 5: that's a pretty easy choice for me. 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, and you brought the important point was this is 112 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: viewed as a down year for quarterbacks. It's Fernana Mendoza 113 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and that's it. And that's I mean, you know, Chambles 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: will go right, and we know that the TJ. Simpson, No, 115 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: that's not right with Alabama Tyson, Tysimson, I don't know 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: why teeth. I knew as soon as they said, I 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: knew was wrong. Ty Simpson is going to be declared. 118 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: So but it's considered a down year. Now next year 119 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: with with Manning and I mean, whoever else is going 120 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: to be in there, Carson Beck who I know, the 121 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: word a little bit mixed on, it'll be a better class. 122 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: But the point of it is is this year was 123 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be a down year. You're guaranteed to be 124 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: a first round pick unless you mess it up in 125 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. So I don't get it either. 126 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense. I get it. You're making 127 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: eight nine million dollars now, and that's great. But if 128 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: next year you go in the draft and you're a 129 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: fifth round drafting, that's all you did it, that's it. 130 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: So you kind of well, he's not going to be 131 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: a fifth round draft choice if he's the second pick 132 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 5: of the draft this year. 133 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: Oh but you say, the only reason that we're saying 134 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: is the second pick of the draft this year is 135 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: because there's no other quarterbacks. 136 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 5: No, I think, I think, No, I disagree. I mean, 137 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 5: it is a bad year for quarterbacks. I think that 138 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: kid is really good. Now, he didn't play very good 139 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: against Indiana, but you look at him. He's a natural 140 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: motion throwing the ball, good enough athlete, he can run it. 141 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the ceiling for. 142 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 5: Dante Moore would be higher than the ceiling for Mendoza. 143 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Whoa I do, I actually really do. 144 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: The Organ's offense always is They don't usually translate to 145 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: being Bois. 146 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: Guy. 147 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: Usually the only two I can only think of is 148 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: Herbert and Knicks and Dan Fouts. 149 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Mark's Mariota. 150 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota didn't live up to what he was supposed 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: to be in the league, but he's still playing last year, 152 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: so can you say you lived up to what he 153 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: what he was. 154 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: I don't even know if Washington played the Browns. 155 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: But I just I just took a shot because everybody 156 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: else beat him. Well, I played there too. We didn't 157 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: win a lot of games either, more than your ass 158 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: one I. 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: Get out of the Out of the four games we won, 160 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: we beat the Packers, we beat the Steelers, we beat 161 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: two playoffs. 162 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. See, you guys underachieved. I would 163 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: say that. 164 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Defense. I would say that too. Yeah. 165 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: Defense, And honestly, we can't even get on the office 166 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: as much as we would want to be. The one 167 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: time the Dolphins scored thirty some points, we lost to 168 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: Tennessee because the defense couldn't get a stop. That's one time. Yeah, 169 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: that's all it takes for defender man to pretty good player. 170 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: He's always he's been a good player. It's a he 171 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: was stuck in Tennessee last year when they were god awful, 172 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: So it was and he was hurt. Yeah, now he 173 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: went crazy against us, but so did James Cook. Well, 174 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: James Cook has gone crazy against everybody. He is a 175 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: he's a I mean, he he offends all defenses. But 176 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: you know who we never had a problem with Derrick Henry. 177 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: We always usually shut him down. But fifty yards or less. 178 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Well, you even told us, like because we asked you 179 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: the type of running back. Yeah, that's right, we asked 180 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: you the type of running backs that were you guys 181 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: that you said, it's the quick guys. It's it's the 182 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: guys that kind of darted and out of there. You 183 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: can't see them necessarily behind the line. But Derrick Henry 184 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: you can see very clearly. You just can't let him 185 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: get going. 186 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, big back. But the biggest thing is 187 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: that stiff arm that he brings out. It's never at 188 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: the line. It's never behind the line of stream once 189 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: he gets a full head of seam running downfield. And 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: I just always wanted to point this out. It's always 191 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: on a little dude. It's always on like a dB, 192 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: sometimes a linebacker, but usually a dB. You know all 193 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: those viral clips of him pretty much putting defenders vertical, 194 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 3: no horizontal to the ground. That's always on the dB. 195 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: It's never on the D Lineman, D Liman. 196 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 5: You know why, Well, just d Linon, don't playing the secondary. 197 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: We could. 198 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: With your hands, best hands of league, if you got 199 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: the second best hands in the studio. 200 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Man, bring the Judgs machine in there and shoot. You 201 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: don't want that, I'll talk about I believe you don't 202 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: want that. Man. I know his fingers already crooked. 203 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: CA. 204 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: I can't run like I used to, but one thing 205 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: I can still do is catch it. You don't want that. 206 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Smoke in the midst You don't want that smoke pulled 207 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: my head one time, we'll call it. 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 5: We'll call them leave a radio station, like right now, 209 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 5: he who has the best hands Shelby Harris, or's somebody 210 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: that played a few years back. 211 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: Well, somebody has that you know that banner up there 212 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: and the indoor, Oh shall be? 213 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 5: Send me a picture of that? Oh yeah, I never 214 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: said it to you right now. No, I was just 215 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 5: walking in the indoor and I was like this, he 216 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 5: goes Dave Logan Ryan's side. Is that the same Dave Logan? Seriously, though, 217 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: that's the same Dave Logan. 218 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: Have you ever had Johnson to describe your hands as supple? 219 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: No, the supple ham. 220 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I got you that one. 221 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: John Pasonda smoke more packs of camels probably any man alive. 222 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: That dude was a chain smoking joker. But what a great, 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: great voice. 224 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: Somebody's asking if you use the same terminology for Juwan 225 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Jennings as you for Derrick Henry. 226 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: No, I like, I respect Derrick Henry. Okay, you know 227 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: what I mean. I think that's the best way to 228 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: explain it. 229 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Juwan will reach out to you this 230 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: year in the offseason. 231 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: I hope he does. I'll be right there waiting for him. 232 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he will. 233 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you No, that's probably not gonna happen. Hey, 234 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: So before we get to Malcolm Roach, Sean was kind 235 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: of on one yesterday. It was I heard and uh, 236 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to the myths in a second here, but 237 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about the run game. 238 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: We're talking about. 239 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: These myths are beautiful, mister Standing, It's so much fun. 240 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: And I have all of them, well, three that he'd 241 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: give us. He said, there's like eight of them, so 242 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: but he'd only give us three because it was like 243 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: the media had to ask the right questions to get 244 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: each myth. Anyways, but then there's Luca Evans, and. 245 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: I feel Luca is I think a good reporter. It works, like, 246 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 5: works his ass off, and he just he's gotten on 247 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: the wrong side of Sean and he lives there. Now 248 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: he's bought an apartment complex. It's not even like he 249 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: rents an apartment. Luca has bought an apartment complex on 250 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 5: the Wrong side of Sean. 251 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: So here was their interaction yesterday on Drake green Law 252 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: this game, his ability to attack down hill in the 253 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: run games. How big is that? 254 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 5: The timing of it. 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 6: If you want him to attack downhill is that you're like, 256 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 6: what do you know about attacking downhill in the rung game? 257 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: You don't know? 258 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 6: All right, that's right, have him attacking downhill. It's good 259 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 6: to have a healthy Dray green Law back in the game. 260 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, he doesn't rent it apartment. 261 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: He owns an apartment complex on. 262 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: The city that is best known as the Wrong side 263 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 5: of Sean Payton. 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: It wasn't a bad question, no, because if you think 265 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: of it, Drake Rema came from a Luca exactly. Drake 266 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: Greenlack came from an antack system. Literally, that's what they 267 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: call it, an attack system when your linebackers are down. 268 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: That's actually not a bad question. 269 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: I know think it's a bad question. I think my 270 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: view on it because of rewatching it. And by the way, 271 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: he got a lot of run all the major outlets 272 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: ran with that and all look at Sean Payton embarrassing 273 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: this reporter out in Denver on I mean, whatever, But 274 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: they don't know the history between Sean and Luca first 275 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: of all, which we do. 276 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: I think what. 277 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Sean was upset about, and it kind of reminded me 278 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: of you, Dave and you sort of your rant yesterday 279 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: about people talking about the game that maybe don't necessarily 280 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: know what they're saying. And I'm not saying that it's 281 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: about Luca, But here's Luca saying, Hey, this is how 282 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna use your linebacker in this game. And 283 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: he's like, don't tell me how I'm going to use 284 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: my linebacker in this upcoming game like that, Like the 285 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: look on his face. He sort of tweaked when Lucas 286 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: said attacking downhill and He's like, you don't know that's 287 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do with him? Why are you telling 288 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: me that's what I'm going to be doing with my linebacker. 289 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: So I sort of thought, are you. 290 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: Here, No, I'm I'm defending Maybe I am defending Sean. 291 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: May you that you're not going to attack downhill on 292 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: a run play? What are you going to. 293 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 5: Dot's not a linebacker in the league that does not 294 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: attack the running game downhill. If they don't attack it 295 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: that way, they're not going to be in the league. 296 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: That's I said. 297 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: If you start backpedaling on I mean to me, I mean, 298 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 5: you gotta be looking for a chance to like verbally 299 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 5: like come over the top with the right hand right 300 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: in the snock. 301 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: Probably like he did all last year with Chris Thomason, 302 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: like every single time I made this ask the question. 303 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 7: I don't know, man, that was my his his face 304 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 7: are a tweaked in the moment when Becas said attack 305 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 7: down hill, and I again, my thought on it immediately 306 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 7: was Sean just didn't like you telling him what he 307 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: thinks you're gonna do with one of his players. 308 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 5: I think you're thinking way too much about it. I 309 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 5: think I think you'd be better off saying Sean just 310 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 5: doesn't like you. 311 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what that was. Now Sewn may deny it, 312 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: but the reality of that that was not. That was 313 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: not a question. 314 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: There's plenty of questions, plenty of questions to Sean Payton 315 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 5: and every other NFL coach over the course of a 316 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: regular season. 317 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: When you hear him you're. 318 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: Like, oh, golly man, that wasn't one of them. I 319 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: mean that at all, That wasn't one of them. That 320 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: actually was like a good football question. 321 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 322 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: It really, there was nothing wrong with that question except Sean. 323 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: Sean doesn't really like and maybe he's got good reason 324 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: not to like Luke. 325 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what the interaction has 326 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: been forever. 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: I think I think it's actually really going off of 328 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: what Dave said yesterday. You know, you talk about how 329 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: a lot of journalists don't know what they're talking about. 330 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: I thought he approached it the right way. He actually 331 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: used the right terms, and so it's odd. That's obviously 332 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: more of a personal man. Now you you you have 333 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: the we've we've talked about this too. You you've had 334 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: guys out there before that have said, hey, uh and 335 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact phraseology, but this guy what 336 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: what what was said? 337 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: This guy is one of your favorite players. It was 338 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: it was. 339 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: About a particular position, and it was like and it 340 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: was like, when I heard that question, I'm like, oh, 341 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: that's that One's not going to end Well. 342 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Hmmm, yes, I do. 343 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: It was it was about a tied end, but I 344 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: can't remember Lucas Croll. Yeah, but I can't remember the 345 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 5: exactly what was the phrase. 346 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: So the framing of it was is he your best 347 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: player like he was during ot as? 348 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: Like like the reporter actually said, he's been your best player. 349 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: That's right, he's been your best player in these ot as. 350 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: And then she was like, what do you mean an 351 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: offense and he's like, no, no, no, on the field, Yeah. 352 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: I mean no. 353 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot of coaches that would spit 354 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 5: back on on that one. 355 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, with no pads, so was just playing catch? Okay, exactly, 356 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: that's what I mean. Yeah. 357 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Well, the double ing down on it saying yeah, that's 358 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: exactly what I said. Yeah, and then no, no, then 359 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: s yeah, Sean, Sean had some fun without run game. 360 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: But he's bristled in the past. And again I'm not 361 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna labor it because I don't know, but he's bristled 362 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: in the past when it comes to what you think 363 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: his game plan should be, or for sure pressing him 364 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: on things that they might try to do under you know, 365 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: certain hypotheticals, like certain situations like I am not getting 366 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: into hypotheticals. I'm not telling you what we're doing. I'm 367 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: not telling you any of the game plans. 368 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: I mean, shot listen. 369 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: I think that in getting to know him a little bit, 370 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: I think he's a very smart football guy. Been around 371 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: a long time, but I think he's all so smart. 372 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 5: And there are probably three handfuls of coaches, maybe four 373 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: handfuls of coaches in the league that know exactly how 374 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: to control the narrative when it comes to press conference 375 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 5: access during the course of the week. And so they're 376 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 5: either going to interrupt you as you ask the question, 377 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: they'll cut the question off, or they won't really answer 378 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: the question if it's a question that they don't really like, 379 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: or they'll use what they think as a sense of 380 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: humor to kind of poke fun at either the person 381 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: asking the question or just the line of questioning in general. 382 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 5: And I think Sean is I think he's good at that. 383 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 5: And again, there are probably twenty coaches in the league 384 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 5: that are really good at controlling that narrative. And maybe 385 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: when you get to that point, maybe you have to 386 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 5: maybe I don't know, maybe that's a smart thing to do. 387 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: He definitely has the accolades to prove it. And if 388 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: he can do what we're hoping he can do over 389 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the next three games, it'll be the first to ever 390 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: do it. If you can win the next three games. 391 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: Yep, that is a fact. 392 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty wild to think in the history of the NFL. Yeah, well, 393 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: and especially now now, I do wonder because you know, 394 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: in reflection of coming off the Mike Tomlin era, the 395 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh era, we're in a much more transient time 396 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, Like coaches come and go all the time. 397 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Now I don't even know Pittsburgh with three coaches in 398 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: their history, like nobody's ever gonna come close to something 399 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: like that. In fact, I think at this point getting 400 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: through a first contract for some of these coaches is 401 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: itself its own kind of incredible thing. But you do wonder, 402 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: with the transient nature, if you will find some opportunities, 403 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: some pockets where a guy goes and has success and 404 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: then a few years later gets fired because that's what 405 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: we do now, and then goes to another team and 406 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: just catches on. 407 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: Is what I don't understand is a lot of the 408 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: time these organizations are firing the wrong people. They're not 409 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: necessarily always the ones that are making decisions on offense 410 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: or defense, on rosters, and there's a lot of it's 411 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: always a lot of back and forth. You got gms, 412 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: you have sometimes you have owners that are way too involved, 413 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: and there's never going to be I feel like a 414 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: bad organization that figures it out anymore because they just 415 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: keep firing a coach every year or two and it's 416 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: hard to build a culture. It's hard to really build 417 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: this team when you have guys who different mindsets coming 418 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: in every couple of years trying to change it up 419 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: and trying to mold a team to what they want. 420 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: And you're not getting that that that that leeway period 421 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: anymore because when such a production based business that they 422 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: don't want to see anything actually develop. They want results 423 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: right now, undred present. 424 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna have Malcolm Roach on the other side. 425 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: We'll take quick break, we'll right back. 426 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: Okay, way. 427 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Your aim you're play immortalized with supple hands, Shelby, then 428 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: you can talk about getting on the drugs machine with Dave. 429 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: Until that happens, I'm sorry, you just you're gonna think 430 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: about it. 431 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: There's plenty of things that I would I would stand 432 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: down with respect to Shelby, like strength and and a 433 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: lot of other things, but catching a football would not. 434 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: Be one of them. 435 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 5: Even at the age now he's like, I still got it. 436 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 5: I can still see that's how it takes. I can 437 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 5: see it. I can still catch it. I ain't gonna 438 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 5: run after it. You ain't sent me on a go route, 439 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 5: because that turns into like sort of a you know, 440 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: sort of a day's event. That's when you pack in 441 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: the early morning and you know you're not coming back 442 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 5: until late at night. You just stacked lunch for the 443 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: kids because it's going to be a long day. 444 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 3: Do you think you have the best hands on your team, 445 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: Cherry Creek? Do you think you get to have better 446 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: hands than all the kids there? Without a doubt? Okay, 447 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: without a doubt, go like and you know what? So 448 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: do they? Yeah, that would be so great you guys. 449 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: Let me show you guys, we've done it. Really, you 450 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: know I expected that. I know. Do you want to 451 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: challenge me? Come on the judge. 452 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: We've done it. We do. I ain't losing no jugs contest. 453 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: I can promise you that. 454 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Hard to find. Nope, We're gonna head out to the 455 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: ka Comisparate Hell High Line to bring on Broncos defensive line. 456 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: Malcolm Roach, Malcolm you're all with Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards 457 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: and defensive lineman Shelby Harris. What's up, man? How are you? 458 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm good. 459 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: I good to hear from you. 460 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 5: Man, Hey, great to great to have you on. So 461 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: what's man? It's excited. You know, the city is a 462 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 5: buzz and this thing on Saturday is going to be 463 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 5: as we like to say, lively. What what's what's the 464 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: mindset of the team on this Wednesdays you guys get 465 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 5: ready for what's coming in Saturday. 466 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's just you know, we played in 467 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: some big games this year already, but like we said always, 468 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: we're going to play a bigger games. This is just 469 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 4: the next one. We try to keep that same focus 470 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: every week. Try to win the week, try to win 471 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: the games on Wednesday and Thursday, Friday. When we get 472 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: to Sunday, man, we kind of just let everything take 473 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: care take care of theself, all back by training, our 474 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 4: fundamentals and things like that, and usually things turn out good. 475 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: Big roach to Shelby here, just uh you already know 476 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 3: My question is you know, as we go throughout the year, 477 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: you know they always talk about what can you not stop? 478 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: What can you stop? 479 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: What? 480 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: As a D lineman. What is like the number one 481 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: thing that you guys are focused on when it comes 482 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: to the Bill's run game. How do you guys shut 483 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: down James Cook and that Bill's run game. 484 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: I think it's a kind of a mixture. You know, 485 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: you got to come in, you gotta be fundamentally sound. 486 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 4: But I think it's not a mistake that you lead 487 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 4: the league and rushing and things like that. I think 488 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: that's just a testament of who they are and things 489 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: like that. So we know they're going to come out 490 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: of h James couldn't had a great year. He had 491 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: a great year last year. Uh, gonna lean on him. Well, 492 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: we know, we just got to be ready. I want 493 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: to say, you know, got to play with the mindset, 494 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: uh that we we usually do every week, knowing is 495 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: going to be rock and knowing we gotta going to 496 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: be home field, and you know, it's just everything buzz 497 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: And I want to say, you know, we kind of 498 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 4: been waiting on this for I want to say, about 499 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: ten eleven years. You know, have a home game in Denver, 500 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: so it's going to be exciting. We know we got 501 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 4: a big challenge coming in with James Cook, Josh Allen 502 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: the offensive line. But we just got to come. 503 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Ready to work. 504 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. I was listening to to 505 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: Corland and Pat Sartain yesterday and they were talking about 506 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: watching back that Bill's game from a year ago. I 507 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: was Cortland said, I've watched it twice. I thought that 508 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. And I don't know how much 509 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you actually went into the tape of that game specifically 510 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: on your play, but what are some things that you 511 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: felt like you learned or the defense learned from that game? 512 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: Like I always say, just learning the different ind and 513 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: we that was our first time of trip, well first 514 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 4: trip in the playoffs. Just learning the intensity that uh 515 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: that that guys want to play with in the playoffs, 516 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: you know, kind of learning how to play the game 517 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: within the game when you make it to the tournament, 518 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, trying to stay ahead of the stix, you know, 519 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: trying to be in third and short, trying to get 520 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: as many points as you can. 521 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 522 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: I think that's something that you know, just that year 523 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: going through that kind of looking back at it, looking 524 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: at all the other teams in the playoffs and things 525 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 4: and teams that have success, I think they do a 526 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: good job but you know, just staying ahead of the 527 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: sticks on defense, keeping the offense behind the stix, uh, 528 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: and just being in control of the game, not letting 529 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: the game get away from you too fast, and uh 530 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: executing the cars. I want to say, Uh, each series 531 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 4: is like a game within itself. Each series is Uh. 532 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure these series to go out 533 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: there and perform. I think that's just the biggest thing. 534 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: Got to just you know, trying to condense the game down. 535 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: You know, Okay, we're gonna take a series by series 536 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: and there before you know it, you get to the 537 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 4: fourth quarter and it's like, okay, we can't well we're 538 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: getting ready. Okay, now I want to say, we got 539 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: to get to the fourth quarter and you know, see 540 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: what kind of game it is and things like that. 541 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I just clearers 542 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: make plays and that's what you got to bank on 543 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: the playoffs. Your best players got to make plays. 544 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 5: Malcolm Roach has had a heck of a season for 545 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: the Broncos. He joins us here in Kai Sports. My 546 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 5: last question, you know, and I don't have to play 547 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: defensive line, but when I look at the Bills, and 548 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: in particular, James Cook. He's a guy that when I 549 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 5: see him, he can run between the tackles, he can 550 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: run with power, and yet he's got that that second 551 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 5: gear when he gets out he can go what what? 552 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: What couple of things in your mind are most important? Uh, 553 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 5: in terms. 554 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: Of dealing with that that style. 555 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 5: Of running game and in particular running back like Cook. 556 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: I always say even I always thought he was one 557 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: of the best backs in the league. And you know, 558 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: at least, if not the best, you know, top three 559 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: for sure. Uh. It just got a great, unique style 560 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 4: of running. 561 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: Man. 562 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 4: He could run through tackles, he could he could hit 563 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: the hole, he could bounce it all the way to 564 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 4: where he get one on one with the corners. Uh. 565 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 4: And the vision. I think the vision is something that 566 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 4: they don't talk about with him a lot. Man. He 567 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 4: got great feel, great instincts for the game. And uh, 568 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 4: you know, we're just dealing with something like that. I 569 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: just want to say, they gotta be hat to the ball. 570 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 571 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: And that's something that we preach our time. Got to 572 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 4: have hat to the ball. Not a one man that's 573 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: going to go out there and you know stop. Somebody 574 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: is great as him. We got to get hat to 575 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: the ball in a rally. Like we always say, the 576 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: more hats you get to the ball, the more we 577 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 4: able to get to him. And uh, you know, just 578 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: play football shot him and things like that. Uh, that's 579 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: the biggest thing we have to do. We gotta get 580 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: hats to the ball, gotta get numbers too, and can't 581 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: be a lot of solo tackles because he's a beast man. 582 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 4: He makes people miss tackles a lot and uh, he 583 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 4: gets a lot of yards at the context. So got 584 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 4: to get a lot of hats to the ball, a 585 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: lot of efforts and that kind of things that we 586 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 4: are preaching. 587 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: And moving to Josh Allen. You know a lot of 588 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 3: people thing when you play with Josh Allen and Lebia Jackson, 589 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: your whole rust plan has to be way different or 590 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: you got to sit there and just power us. What 591 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: do you believe it is going to take to keep 592 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: Josh Allen in the pocket and really to stop him 593 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: from hurt hurting you guys with its legs. 594 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of a bit, you know, you 595 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 4: kind of look at it, if you kind of put 596 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: in the NBA turns, We're like, Okay, he gonna get 597 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: his thirty. We just can't let him get the sixty, 598 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and let him just have it. 599 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: You know, like so he's gonna there's a reason Josh 600 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: Allen is, you know, one of the best quarterbacks in 601 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: the league. He do it weekend, week out. Man. One 602 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: of the toughest guys I've seen play, one of the 603 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: toughest guys I played against. I want to say, So 604 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: it's like with any quarterback, Man, you got to make 605 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: sure you continue to put pressure on where it might 606 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: not be the sack, it might not be the quarterback hit, 607 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: but just making quarterbacks uncomfortable, I want to say, you know, 608 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 4: getting in this vision. You know, maybe that hits you 609 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 4: guy on him in the first quarter, it might affect 610 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 4: them in the fourth quarter. You know, just things like that, 611 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 4: and just keep building up those things and Russian Russian 612 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 4: within our system, you know, doing what we do, Just 613 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: making sure we go out there and don't kind of 614 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: stop what we're doing. But also understanding that he's that 615 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: he's a man, he's a great player, man, one of 616 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: the players. He's probably gonna be one of the greats, 617 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: I want to say. But at the end of the day, 618 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: we just got to put numbers on them. Got putting numbers, 619 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: got to make the coverage cloudy. But then within that 620 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: we got to have Russian coverage too, and we're playing 621 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: a different type of zone. We know, okay, we might 622 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: have a quarterback on this one, or we might have 623 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: a call with a spot. Okay, we can get our 624 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 4: rushes off on this one. So just understanding the cause, 625 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: understanding the different meanings that dj is make, putting us 626 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: any positions for and I think we've been doing a 627 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 4: good job of that the last two years. I want 628 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: to say that's something that we do really really good, no. 629 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Doubt about it. 630 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Last one I have for you, Malcolm really appreciates the 631 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: time just for a moment when you're thinking about this 632 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: season and the ability to close games. I mean, whether 633 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: it's a comeback win or just closing out in the 634 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. You guys have been spectacular this year, the 635 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: best in the league. How much confidence does that give 636 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: this team going into the postseason knowing that a lot 637 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: of these games tend to be close. 638 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: Uh, we're understanding, man, That's kind of the way the 639 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: lead here now. It's not too many blowouts you see, 640 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 4: or you know, we look back at it last last weekend, 641 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: only one games didn't come down to the final position. 642 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 4: I want to say, and uh, we know, you know, 643 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: you gotta be bapletistic going into getting ready to go 644 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: into these games like this, man, everybody going out there 645 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 4: and play as hard as they can because everybody wants 646 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 4: the same thing at the end of the day. Didn't 647 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: want to hold that trophy up. Uh, just understanding, like 648 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: you know, not losing your composure. It's kind of a 649 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: good thing. We've been in those tuggitions and things, and 650 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: you know, we're able to look at each other and 651 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: be like, Okay, we see where we're at. We gotta 652 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 4: go now, we gotta we got to hit another level. Man, 653 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: We gotta keep we gotta keep playing hard. Man, We 654 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: gotta we gotta out effort guys. We gotta out physical 655 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: guys and things like that. So that's kind of the 656 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: things that help us when it gets to those four 657 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 4: point of those tight games. Then, like I always say, 658 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: man ten and ten got. 659 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: A different gene. 660 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: And I want to say, when his quest time, he 661 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: always comes through. 662 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: I want to say, and the proof is in the pudding. 663 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: I got all the faith in him to get down there. 664 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: And you know things like that the game on the line, 665 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: I think I got all the faith in ten to 666 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: come through. I think that's the way it should be. 667 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Malcolm. It's been a blast watching 668 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: you this season, and best of luck on Saturday. Let's 669 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: keep this thing rolling. 670 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 671 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 672 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate you. 673 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That's great. That last that line he 674 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: said before, it's like a basketball analogy. He's gonna get thirty. 675 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: I want him get sixty to get his make sure 676 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't get more than that. Coming up at the 677 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: top of the hour, I want to see if you 678 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: guys have some myths to add to his list. He 679 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: has said he has eight, but he only give us three, 680 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: so we'll guess the rest of them. Now, I want 681 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: to ask you something, because you guys obviously played the Bills, 682 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: did you guys spy Josh Allen? Because you're asking a 683 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of questions about containing him in the pocket. What 684 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: was the mindset there with Josh? 685 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: So we had this, didn't call Lamar Rush, which is 686 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: just a spy, you know what I mean? Obviously Lamar 687 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: Jackson's on our division, so we just kept it the same. 688 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: But Mr Rush Lamar so Lamar rush where the all 689 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: four dy linemen are rushing and then one of the 690 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: linebackers is spying him and kind of following him wherever 691 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: he goes. The one negative though, is it takes somebody 692 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 3: out of coverage, and so you have to really get 693 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: home with your front forward if you're going to do 694 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: any type of spy. And you have to make sure 695 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: though that if you're going to spy, you have to spy. 696 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: You can't let him get loose with a spy. That's 697 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: the most deflating thing you could ever have as a defender. 698 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Dave, I mean, who does again? I wouldn't ask Sean 699 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: because he would be like, yeah, I'm not going to 700 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: tell you which linebacker I would spy with. But how 701 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: would you go about approaching blood Josh All would you 702 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: spy him? 703 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you you have. 704 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 5: To change up what you do when you to me, 705 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: when you play great quarterbacks, you've got to give them 706 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: different looks, a lot of different looks. You've got to 707 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: be really intentional with your pre snap disguise, and then 708 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: I think you have to be disciplined in your pass 709 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 5: rush lanes. To me, he's not a guy again with 710 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 5: Benito and Cooper and Ellis and some of the really 711 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: great edge pass rushers the Broncos have. This This is 712 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 5: not a game that I think you can come around 713 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 5: that hoop one hundred miles an hour, right, and you 714 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: don't want him stepping up because then if you come 715 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 5: too fast around the hoop and he steps into what 716 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: he essentially. 717 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: Would be the C gap and you get the. 718 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: Defensive interior guy like Shelby that somehow gets pinned inside 719 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 5: and maybe he was an a gap guy anyway, so 720 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 5: he's supposed to be inside, then he's going to run 721 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 5: for a long time. And the thing about this, I 722 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 5: mean this quarterback is not only does he have good 723 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: speed and athletic ability, he's hard to get in the ground. 724 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: So if you come up with a smaller. 725 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: Defensive back and you try to get him, there's no 726 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: there's no guarantee you're gonna get him on the ground. 727 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: Six fifty you know what I mean. And but I 728 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: will say this, if you do not spy, what Dave 729 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: said is one hundred percent correct. You gotta have discipline. Pastors. 730 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: Pastors rush lanes and you kind of just have to. 731 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 3: You have to contain them. But the one thing a 732 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 3: spy does though, and it kind of gives you the 733 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: freedom that is not necessarily all your responsibility to keep 734 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: him in the pocket. 735 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: It turn it turns your edge guys loose with a spy, But. 736 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: Once again, it takes one guy out of coverage, and 737 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: so that's you. It's always a give and take with that, 738 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: and so that's the tough part about it. You have 739 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: to realize you have to figure out yourself is that 740 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: worth it? Is he really killing us with his legs 741 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: right now? Or is his arm? I see the Broncos 742 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: going back and forth between it because you can't show 743 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: him the same look every time. But a bit you 744 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 3: will see a couple of spies in that. 745 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's to play more zone under 746 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: these circumstances, Dave said, you have guys at least with 747 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: their eyes on James Cook and on Josh Allen. 748 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 5: Again, I think you'll see some zone. I mean the 749 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 5: Broncos have been a heavy man de man team right 750 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: this year. 751 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: I think they excel at that. 752 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 5: The risk, as you said, especially if you're playing too 753 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: too deep man under then I mean, then you've got 754 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of guys running with their backs to 755 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: the ball, plus two other guys playing half the field, 756 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 5: and now when you break contain as the quarterback, I 757 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 5: mean there's literally nobody there. 758 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 2: So I think Vance has been good this year. 759 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 5: I think in my book at mixing and matching, giving 760 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 5: you different looks, disguising looks. I think that's going to 761 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 5: be really key for this Broncos defensive effort.