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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Monday Midday Quarterback on Cincinnati's

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendall in for one more day, Audie. If he

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Speaker 2: not as much as he enjoyed it there. If he

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Speaker 2: does leave Green Bay and come back home today, Audie

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Speaker 2: will be back with you tomorrow. We've got plenty to

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Speaker 2: get to. We've got the Bengals falling twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: We've got the Bearcats. With their twenty to eleven victory

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Speaker 2: the coaches poll at number twenty four this week. So

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Speaker 2: they go on the road to Oklahoma State and then

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Speaker 2: if they can take care of business there, potentially a

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Speaker 2: ranked Cincinnati team playing at home on homecoming next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of good stuff from the Bearcats going

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Speaker 2: on this weekend. Unfortunately, we start the show with I'll

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Speaker 2: do do my best to get through this the passing

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Speaker 2: of the great Jim Kelly Junior. Jim was UC football.

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Speaker 2: If you follow UC closely, you know the UC Athletics

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame is named after his dad, Jim Kelly Senior,

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Speaker 2: who played for the Bearcats in the fifties, the forties

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Speaker 2: and fifties and was an administrator and a part of

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Speaker 2: Bearcats in the mid seventies. He was the leading pass

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Speaker 2: catcher on the team for three years. In the late

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Speaker 2: eighties nineteen eighty eight, Jim took over color commentary duties

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Speaker 2: on the radio broadcasts. He had thirty five seasons on

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Speaker 2: seasons that I've been on the beat. Jim was the best.

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Speaker 2: He was the nicest, most genuine guy you will ever meet.

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Speaker 2: He was you see football that there was nobody, and

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Speaker 2: I legitimately, I think I can and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Jim Kelly. He grew up in it, he was around

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Speaker 2: in his whole life. He was he was there when

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Speaker 2: the greatest moments in U See athletics history. There will

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Speaker 2: be few things ever like a big moment in a

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Speaker 2: my perspective, Jim had time for everybody. Anytime I ever

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Speaker 2: McMahon is in the booth today producing. Sean, I know

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Speaker 3: Too, man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what more can you say about a guy?

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Speaker 4: Just an upstanding person, just the nicest guy you'd ever meet.

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Speaker 4: You know, he just was an outstanding person. And you

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Speaker 4: I mean, at least for me, Chad. I you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know Jim very well, but I do know

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Speaker 4: and that's just a testament to the kind of person

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Speaker 4: a guy he was, Like you said he was. He

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Speaker 4: and that is remarkable. There's no denying that Jim and

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Speaker 4: They will always be fondly remembered by those who have

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Speaker 4: you can't say enough good things about Jim, and it's

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Speaker 4: just a shame that he's gone and he'll be missed

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Speaker 4: by by all of us.

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Speaker 2: The good news is, Sean, he got to go out

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Speaker 2: a five game winning streak. He didn't have to see

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Speaker 2: the love of his life outside of his family in

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Speaker 2: one of those downturns in his in his final days

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Speaker 2: and weeks. And it's going to be really difficult over

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Speaker 2: the years, not having him at practice anymore, not listening

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Speaker 2: observations on. You know, I would go to Jim Oladele.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you inside a little secret, Sean, I really

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Speaker 2: don't know anything, right. I observe things, and then what

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Speaker 2: know things, and I ask them how on or off

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Speaker 2: am I seeing it's right? And if Jim didn't agree,

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Speaker 2: say you know what, Jed, I don't know. I see

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Speaker 2: bounce ideas off of you could you could get incredible

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Speaker 2: insider information and expertise. That's how you make it in

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Speaker 2: this business. It's it's because you have people like Jim

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Speaker 2: Kelly that are willing to help YEP. And I'm heartbroken, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: genuinely heartbroken. It's been a rough morning. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: Just okay, let's get right into it. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'll get my crap together, and when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into twenty seven to eighteen. Last night, the

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Speaker 2: other things. But look, I know a lot of you

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Speaker 2: have Jim Kelly stories. I would love for you to

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Speaker 2: any experience with Jim what he's meant to you calling

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Speaker 2: Bearcats games, listening to his voice screaming yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: it was. Leave those in talkbacks. Phone lines will be open.

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Speaker 2: We're guests free today. I didn't have it in me,

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Speaker 2: so the phone lines will be open. But Sean, let's

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Speaker 2: to some other stuff when we come back. But for now,

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Speaker 2: rest easy, Jim, good, miss your buddy. This is Sincy

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks to thanks to Katie Walters for getting

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Speaker 2: me some tissues. I think I'm better. I'm not, but

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Speaker 2: I think I'm well enough that I can try to

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Speaker 2: do a radio show. Truth be told, my heart's not

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Speaker 2: in it, but the show must go on. It's been

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Speaker 2: a rough week for that. It's been a rough three

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Speaker 2: shows for that here in the palatial Kinwood Studios. But

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Speaker 2: the show must go on. Bengals fall twenty eight seventeen

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Speaker 2: to the Packers or twenty seven eighteen, sorry, twenty seven

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Speaker 2: There you go, new Bengals quarterback Joe Flacco, and I

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Speaker 2: This team wasn't beating the Packers. The Packers are a better,

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Speaker 11: Excuse me, I know you.

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Speaker 2: So they begin from the ten.

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Speaker 12: They will line up with two receivers out live to

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 13: That's film study there, and that's an athleticism.

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Speaker 2: A true freshman from Detroit.

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Speaker 12: His nickname is Sauce, and he's given Cincinnati to lead

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Speaker 2: You see up hearing the wind Shouler call of the day.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine a world where we didn't know his

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Speaker 4: You know what's funny, Chad was at that point I

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Speaker 2: Before any other headphones around here anywhere, Sean, because the

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Speaker 2: headphones I'm using just went out. Oh really, I was

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in l A. Mike, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about Jim Kelly. Mike, what's going on? Mike? Are you there?

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Speaker 2: All right? We'll hold on, Mike, Tom and Green Township. Tom. No,

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Speaker 2: I can't hear I can hear myself. I'm not hearing

437
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: the phone. There we go, Tom, How are you?

438
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 6: Uh?

439
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 14: This is Jims from Green Township? Can you hear me

440
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 14: out there?

441
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: I can't hear you? What's going on? My friend?

442
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 16: You can?

443
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: I can? Yes?

444
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 14: Good, I want to. I'm on a cell phone and

445
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 14: is you? And I both know celluar technology. He has

446
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 14: a mind of its own.

447
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: It does. But we're good right now. These have a

448
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: mind of their own as well. So it's kind of

449
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: a double assed sword right now.

450
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 14: All right, I've heard your voice, but I don't know

451
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 14: your name? Are you Joe's there?

452
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Using No, I'm Chad Brindle, Joe Bengle.

453
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 9: What a name?

454
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 17: Well?

455
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 14: Anyways, not only with Jim and Machine Gun Kelly the

456
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 14: color voice of the UC beer football team, but if

457
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 14: you also loved to move and groove and rock and roll,

458
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 14: he was the lead guitar man for Oola La and

459
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 14: the Greasers.

460
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: Yes he was.

461
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 14: Remember the team, the old taste of blue Ash. Yep,

462
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 14: they would be the warm up for the grassroots or whoever.

463
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 14: All these one O three point five would bring in

464
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 14: Jimmy machine done. Kelly and his teammate and high school

465
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 14: buddy Danny Hauser were right at their center stage.

466
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: I talked to Jim many times about his love for

467
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: playing guitar and playing music in front of people around

468
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: the city. He loved it.

469
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 14: Oh man, he even uh I think I think he

470
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 14: did this with his granddaughters or something that he had

471
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 14: a He had a little trio called Kelly, Fran and

472
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 14: Ollie and they played it and they played at reading

473
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 14: Historic Canig Park once.

474
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Very cool.

475
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 14: Anyways, Anyways, Jimmy played alongside such former Crusaders stands out

476
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 14: as Kenny Kirkhoffs, Randy Keith, Mark Daniels, Danny Hauser. My

477
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 14: older brother has got to be student managers for the

478
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 14: football team. In fact, coach Fix said to one of

479
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 14: my brothers, you're too small. I can't use you. How

480
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 14: would you like to be one of my managers? First? First, uh,

481
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 14: my brother was out there discouraging with the team. He

482
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 14: was really hustling. And you know how, you know how

483
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 14: Jerry and whistle and yell outs in and call you

484
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 14: call you my last name over here, and Jared go

485
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 14: there looking great out there, kid, like what I see?

486
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 14: And I can't use you too small, And then after

487
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 14: a whispered to hail Mary, he'd say, I'd like to

488
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 14: be one of my managers.

489
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Speaker 2: That's great, all right, I appreciate the call. Thank you.

490
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 14: My brother Tom became buddies with Jimmy machine Gun Kelly.

491
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 14: And also when the Crusader's own Leopard Stadium, practically Jimmy

492
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 14: was probably instrumental Punt intended. He was instrumental in getting

493
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 14: the place opened up for the Crusaders to play some

494
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 14: of the most famous comeback wins and fought in nineteen eighty.

495
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 14: I won't I for any listener, remember how we have

496
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 14: the Crusaders beat the Nasal and Washington Tigers at NIPPERD

497
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 14: Stadium from the nineteen eighty state championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate. I gotta get moving. Thank you. All right,

499
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in La Mike, how are you?

500
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Speaker 18: You got me?

501
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: I got you this time?

502
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Well, I hope you're well.

503
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 19: Hoped family as well.

504
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: It's not a good day, Mike, It's not a good day.

505
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 18: Big condolence.

506
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 19: Jemma for his soul and for his family and from

507
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 19: the heart Kelly family. This is one guy that says

508
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 19: thank you for Jim's contribution to society in mankind. Thank

509
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 19: you very much.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was one of one, Mike. He

511
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: was one of the nicest, most genuine humans I've ever

512
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: been around, and I'm going to miss the hell out

513
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: of them.

514
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 19: Yeah I was.

515
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: I was.

516
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 19: You know, I knew Jim was having some problems. I

517
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 19: had no idea what the extent of it was none

518
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 19: of my business, but kind of took me. You got

519
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 19: me on that one this morning. So how old was

520
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 19: mister Kelly?

521
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Trying to remember exactly he was? Seventy Gosh, it's slipping

522
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: my mind. My brain is kind of much. I think

523
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: seventy four, so.

524
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 19: About my age then really seventy three. So I don't

525
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 19: know why the hell I'm around and he ain't. That

526
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 19: don't make any sense. But anyway, I'm looking forward to

527
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 19: the playoff tonight. Dodgers and Brewers. Those Brewers are pesky

528
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 19: little rascals from the jump by. Don't think how they

529
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 19: win games with most of the pictures that they got,

530
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 19: which aren't really they're good, but they got a couple

531
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 19: of good ones. But you know, Otawani and Freeman for

532
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 19: the whole playoffs are hitting about a buck eighty. This

533
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 19: tells you the depth of that line up, especially the

534
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 19: bottom three with Kei k Hernandez tom Yet and then

535
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 19: all these guys. I had to just have all the

536
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 19: high priced guys. They got all them A bow crap,

537
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 19: you don't even know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: His hits so far in the playoffs against the Reds probably.

539
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Speaker 19: Oh, he probably wish they were still playing the rest

540
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 19: right now. I mean they found out, well, we know

541
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 19: that Phillies klew that game. That poor kid on the mound,

542
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 19: he just got all be fuddled. And evidently the team,

543
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 19: the team itself thinks a lot of that young guy

544
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 19: and they didn't bust as you know what about it.

545
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 19: So but you know, that's just a lot of pressure

546
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 19: when you're twenty two years.

547
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: Old or whatever.

548
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 19: You are very happy for the Bearcats excellent. But my

549
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 19: anticipation is this basketball season. I just can't wait. When's

550
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 19: their first game? Chits uh?

551
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Well, they they play a week. They played this week

552
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: they played Friday UH in ann Arbor in an exhibition

553
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: against the University of Michigan, and then UH the following

554
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: week they play Arkansas in Fayetteville, and then the I

555
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: believe the first game is November fourth, lot that the

556
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: headphones are out again. This is not going to work.

557
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: This is not can you hear me?

558
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 19: Can you hear me?

559
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm losing my mind, Sean, It's not my day?

560
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 19: Can you hear me?

561
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: My day? Mike, Hang on a second, Let's take a break.

562
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after that. Since he three sixty

563
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: right here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati. All right,

564
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: let's get back to it. I'm sorry, I've got Sean's headphones.

565
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Sean is now running the show blind. He can't hear

566
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: anything in there. I can hear you, okay, just in

567
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: one year? Okay, back to Mike in La Mike, sorry

568
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: about that.

569
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Speaker 20: That's fine, So it happens, right.

570
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 21: Oh.

571
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Speaker 19: I did want to mention to talk to Tony quite

572
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 19: a two time on the list.

573
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 14: We can you know he's hanging in there.

574
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: But I talked to him Saturday as well, and we

575
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: texted this morning. It's uh, it's been a battle.

576
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 19: Yeah. When you lose your income quickly like that, it's

577
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 19: at least if you get laid off, typically you have

578
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 19: some kind of notice, you know, can you hear me?

579
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: I got you Okay, Hey.

580
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 19: I was gonna say to you, did you watch any

581
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 19: of the NFL games? Well, first of all the time,

582
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 19: I don't see anybody beating Ohio State except I mean

583
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 19: nobody except maybe Miami. What do you think about Miami

584
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 19: or Florida or do you know anything about it?

585
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: I think Miami is really good, really good up front,

586
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: and and if you're going to handle Ohio State, you

587
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: better be good along both lines of scrimmage. They've got

588
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: a pretty dominant offensive line and their deep asive line

589
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: is disruptive, and that if you're going to knock off

590
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: a team, Ohio States just loaded the other team though, Mike,

591
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: keep an eye on Texas Tech. Keep an eye on

592
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. And then I mean, we got to pay

593
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of attention at least Indiana right now,

594
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 2: uh after they smacked Oregon. So but yeah, I think

595
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: if I was doing like a tier system, I think

596
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State would be in a tier all their own.

597
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: Especially Julian Saints playing playing really well. They've got an

598
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: amazing defense and and their weapons are are top notch. Again,

599
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: so I'd have Ohio State ahead of the pack, and

600
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: then I'd probably have Miami, Texas Tech and Indiana and

601
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: that next group right behind.

602
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 19: Them, Well, Miami's a lot or Indiana is way better

603
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 19: than they were last year. What I've seen of them, I.

604
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: Think, so they're tough.

605
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 19: And where did that come from?

606
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: He come to me.

607
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 19: He wouldn't know who this guy is.

608
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti. He was at Liberty google him. Oh good, Yeah,

609
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: as Kurt Signetti would say. That's what he said at

610
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 2: his press his opening press conference, Mike uh. Somebody asked him,

611
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: like if he was good enough to coach in the

612
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Big Ten. He said, google me. I love it.

613
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Speaker 19: He's got a very matter of fact demeanor about hims wher.

614
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Speaker 19: He looks like an accountant. Think you just take a

615
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 19: glance at.

616
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: It kind of does.

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Speaker 18: He does the other thing I wanted to mention, I

618
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 18: know you got to go. I I didn't pay attention

619
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 18: to the Bengals yesterday. That's the team's history issue. But

620
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Speaker 18: I did this. Baker Mayfields blow in my mind.

621
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Speaker 2: He is v.

622
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Speaker 19: MDT with the injuries they got there. Oh my god.

623
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Speaker 19: Half the offensive line has been gone all year. All

624
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 19: the receivers keep getting knocked down, their top running backs gone.

625
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 19: He seems to be just talking about putting a team

626
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 19: on your back. That's what he's doing. But see these

627
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 19: two young receivers. They got this Johnson kid from Morgan.

628
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 19: They just keep pulling receivers out of there, you know what.

629
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they and Baker has it rolling. I mean, he

630
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: just he's playing a winning brand of football. He's tough,

631
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: he's fun. But you know, it is what it is.

632
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: It's uh, he's he's I would say right now, he's

633
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: probably the MVP.

634
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 19: Yeah at this point, Yeah, I don't care.

635
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: That's a long way to go, long way to go.

636
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 19: Yeah, but I'll tell you what Herbert yesterday was. He

637
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 19: was he flashy?

638
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Was he?

639
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 19: Joe Namath? Joe want no? But yeah, that guy is.

640
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 19: He's not as big as Roethlisberger, but he's close and

641
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 19: he blows. He pushes Lineman off of him with one hand.

642
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 19: I've seen him switch hands and throw a seed to uh,

643
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 19: to one of those receivers. He's remarkable in that little

644
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 19: lad mcconkee. He reminds me of Wes Welker or Julian Edelman.

645
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 19: The only ways about a buck eight he goes, he

646
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 19: goes across the middle. He's out of Texas, I believe, Yeah,

647
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 19: wasn't he help little guy. They don't really have any

648
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 19: other receivers anyway. That's that nobody else cares about that.

649
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: So all right, thanks Mike, I'll talk to you man.

650
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Thank you. Bob wants to talk about the Bengals play calling.

651
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: Do we have to Bob?

652
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm a I'm a simple I'm a simple man.

653
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 22: I'm not that smart, but so someone might have to

654
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 22: explain this to me. In the second half, when we

655
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Speaker 22: scored that touchdown to bring us to within eleven, and

656
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Speaker 22: we decided to go for two instead of the extra point,

657
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Speaker 22: which would have brought us to within a touchdown and

658
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Speaker 22: a field goal of time, if we don't make that

659
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Speaker 22: two point conversion, then we.

660
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Speaker 2: Have to get two touchdowns. Correct.

661
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Speaker 22: I don't understand what was our offense like, Were we

662
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Speaker 22: that confident in that offense that so we're just going

663
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Speaker 22: to go for two point conversions from there on out.

664
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Speaker 22: I don't understand that. But you don't make it, then

665
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Speaker 22: you pretty much kill your chances.

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Speaker 2: Bob, there, Well, you can the next time you get

667
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: a touchdown, you can go for two and then get

668
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: the field goal and it's still a two, but you

669
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: can still get a touchdown and a field goal. This is, Bob,

670
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: this is a math thing. I I went to public

671
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: school in northern Kentucky, so I don't understand it, which

672
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: means I'm probably on your side of it where I

673
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: don't necessarily agree with it. But there's something in that book,

674
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: the two point Like to Go or Not to Go

675
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: book that says, in that situation, to go for two.

676
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Speaker 22: That's assuming you have an offense that you can trust

677
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 22: will make it one out of every two times.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Bob, But that's the But that's the math

679
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: there yet, that's no, I'm not quite there.

680
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 22: That's common core math.

681
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: If you ask me. The math says two point conversions

682
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: are a fifty deal. So you go for two and

683
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: then if you don't get it, you're okay because you

684
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: can still go for two the next time. But ultimately

685
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you on that one. I kind

686
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 2: of hate it there because I hate for me old

687
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: school me. I turned forty eight this week, Bob, so

688
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm getting old. I hate chasing points because far too

689
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: often in my life I've seen a team you start

690
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: chasing points and then you look up and later in

691
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: the game that point that you didn't get or that

692
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: you tossed away means something. So it is all about

693
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: the book, the two point conversion book, to go or

694
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: not to go? That situation calls for go. I've never

695
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 2: necessarily agreed with it, especially what they didn't score in

696
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: nineteen consecutive drive. They didn't score a touchdown in nineteen

697
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: consecutive drives up until last week. I'm not putting a

698
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: lot of faith into this offense right now. But they did,

699
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: and they got it.

700
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Speaker 22: I'd love to hear Zach explain why. Maybe they saw

701
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 22: something on the defense, maybe someone was injured that they

702
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 22: knew they could take advantage of. Well they didn't.

703
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: You know, I genuinely they made it. I genuinely believe job.

704
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: It's as simple as the book says to go for it,

705
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Speaker 2: So they go for it.

706
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Speaker 22: But I guess the book also says to hand the

707
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 22: ball off and run right into the gut of the

708
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Speaker 22: line on first down when you have no running game.

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Speaker 2: Also, over and over and over again.

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Speaker 23: It is.

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Speaker 19: It's great anyway.

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Speaker 22: Like I said, I'm I'm a simple man, and they

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Speaker 22: I guess, thank you for explained. I missed reading that book,

714
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 22: so I'll go look back.

715
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Speaker 2: It wasn't in the curriculum where you went to school, Bob.

716
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Speaker 6: It was not.

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Speaker 22: Hey, it's been a tough week. I urge everyone out

718
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Speaker 22: there to hang in there. And uh and who knows,

719
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Speaker 22: maybe since he three sixty does make a full three

720
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 22: sixty turnaround and comes back from this.

721
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Speaker 19: But it's been a tough week.

722
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: Really has no question, Bob, I am going to I

723
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: love doing this show, but I am not going to

724
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: be sad that I don't have to do it tomorrow.

725
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it, have a great week. Thanks. There you go,

726
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 2: our number one in the books, our number two. We'll

727
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: talk some bear cats. We'll get to talkbacks a lot

728
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: to get to there. And I think Zach does talk here?

729
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: Does does he talk during this show?

730
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 17: Do you know?

731
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Speaker 2: Or do we have to wait for Most Show to

732
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: hear from Zach. That's a great question. I'm not sure.

733
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Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not here every day for it either.

734
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Speaker 2: I think it might be Most show, though I know

735
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Speaker 2: Wednesday from his Moe's show. For sure. I know he

736
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: talks today, especially with the short week, I just will

737
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: keep our eyes out. If he talks, we'll let you

738
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Speaker 2: hear it. How about that we're today, We're so on

739
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: top of it. Today, Sean. The first literally the first

740
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: thing when I woke up this morning was the news

741
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Speaker 2: that Jim Kelly had pass right, and my brain just

742
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: isn't it's not there like the focus and the the

743
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: energy you need to do to do this show has

744
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: been a great challenge today, a great challenge. Let's take

745
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Speaker 2: a break. Hour number two coming up after this. This

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Hour number two, Monday Midday

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Speaker 2: Quarterback on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty, discussing the Cincinnati Bengals

762
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: twenty seven to eighteen victory over or loss. Excuse me,

763
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: the twenty seven to eighteen loss to the Green Bay

764
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: Packers last night. Some of the numbers, Joe Flacco twenty

765
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Speaker 2: nine of forty five, forty five. Joe Flacco comes in,

766
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: has like three days to get ready. Chase Brown had

767
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: nine rushing attempts. Samajp Rynd six Jamar Chase won. They

768
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: ran the ball fifteen times. They threw it forty five. Now,

769
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: to be fair, some of that was playing from behind

770
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Speaker 2: and having to play catchup. Some of that was because they,

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Speaker 2: I think at one point the second quarter, had run

772
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Speaker 2: eleven plays right before halftime. They were on pace before that.

773
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Speaker 2: I think it was just before they tried to get

774
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: in field goal range, ran two short plays inbounds, wasted

775
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: two of their three timeouts, and as a result, had

776
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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson try to attempt a sixty seven yard field goal,

777
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: the longest or sixty eight yard field goal would have

778
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: been the longest field goal in NFL history. He made

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Speaker 2: the first attempt, but Green Bay called a timeout, and

780
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: then he was short on the second. But before that,

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00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: I believe the Bengals had run eleven plays in the

782
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: first half, so then by the time the second half

783
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: rolled around, you weren't really in a position to run

784
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Speaker 2: the ball. But the point stands. Sixteen rush attempts, forty

785
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: five pass attempts. Joe Placo had been in the building

786
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: for four days. They held Jordan Love mostly in check

787
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: nineteen for twenty six. He had two hundred and fifty

788
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: nine yards, a touchdown and a pick. Josh Jacobs did

789
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: some damage eighteen carries ninety three yards, didn't break a

790
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: big one, but just consistently six seven eight every time

791
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: they gave him a touch And that was kind of

792
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: the problem. There were very few third and lungs, very

793
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: very few third and lungs. The Packers were either getting

794
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: first downs on first and second down, or they were

795
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: they were tasked with third and short and able to

796
00:50:52,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: work around that. So that part clearly frustrate if you're

797
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: a Bengals fan. But there are some silver linings. There

798
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: are some things here that you can look at and say, okay,

799
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: going into Pittsburgh, and maybe this is just product of circumstance,

800
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 2: given how bad the Minnesota game was, the Denver game was,

801
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: the first three quarters of the Broncos game, like, there's

802
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: things to look at and say, Hopefully they're building up

803
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: a little momentum. Hopefully they are putting themselves in a

804
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: position to utilize this four game stretch that can help

805
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: them get off the mat. Because if not, if this

806
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: thing's at two and six, three and seven, this it's

807
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: a lost season. It's a lost season. It's got to

808
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: my guy, mister a, mister Ace, what's going on? Brother man?

809
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Speaker 15: You know what, mister chad Man, It's good that Cincinnati

810
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 15: got us a win, even though we lost on the scoreboard,

811
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Speaker 15: even though we lost in the game, we got a

812
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 15: win by getting a better quarterback because I think that, unfortunately,

813
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 15: what we shot from Jake Browning this year is what

814
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 15: we would have seen if Jake Browning started the first

815
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 15: time Burrow got injured and he had to step in

816
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 15: for Joe during the season. Good what they were good

817
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 15: when Browning played, but that was after he had the

818
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 15: momentum of the season already going and Joe was there

819
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 15: to take the pressure at the beginning of.

820
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Speaker 2: The seasoned to react to that.

821
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Speaker 15: Hey, I'm not sure, man, I personally think Briana would

822
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 15: have froze up and played like he's played these games

823
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 15: if he started off. I think it was twenty twenty

824
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 15: three Joe had the was it the app in decta

825
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 15: me season or the foot injury season.

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Speaker 9: It was one of those years I think it was.

827
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Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's sad, but I mean, our quarterbacks

828
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 15: had so many danging injuries. I mean, I think he's

829
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 15: like last Joe from Mike Tyson's plush out. But I

830
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 15: mean we'll hope that he has more of the eye

831
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Speaker 15: of the tiger, like Piston Hurricane. If you can catch

832
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 15: the Mike Tyson flesh out reference, yeah, I mean you

833
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 15: can dodge and move around and get us back to

834
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Speaker 15: the promises.

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Speaker 2: That no sas or one sack yesterday, no interceptions. If

836
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Speaker 2: you tell me that's what I'm gonna get from Joe

837
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Speaker 2: Flacco from here going forward, I'll feel pretty good. He

838
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: got the ball out quick. He talked about it. If

839
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: you heard the interview earlier. Uh, being able to throw

840
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: balls that he didn't throw necessarily what he didn't throw

841
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: a good ball and Jamar and t were still going

842
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: able to make go able to make a play. Now

843
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: he would have He would have been even more successful

844
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: if Andre Joseavash didn't have a hole in the middle

845
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: of his hands dropping a couple passes one that would

846
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: have converted a big third down and could have made

847
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: things even more interesting. I mean, look, I get the

848
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: hindsight on Jake Browning, but the reality is, especially once

849
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow gets paid, the backup is not going to

850
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: be good. He's not like you've got so much money

851
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: in your starting quarterback that unless you just go hit

852
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: on like a fifth round pick that ends up being

853
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: an outstanding backup that that maybe develops and can come

854
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: in and win you some games. Uh, if Joe is

855
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: out for for any period of time, you can't build

856
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: a roster that also has money invested in the backup quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's it's it's just not

858
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: with a salary cap and as much as Joe is getting,

859
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: it's just not feasible. It doesn't make financial sense because

860
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: not that it matters when some of the way this

861
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: team builds a roster. I guess, I guess you could

862
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 2: make an argument that, uh, you should spend a bunch

863
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Speaker 2: of money on backup quarterback because if Joe's out as

864
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: it currently stands, you're in big, big Dodo. Mister Ace.

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I think the Bengals will probably be

866
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 15: dipping back into the celebrity backup quarterback market next year.

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Speaker 15: I'm very sure that Russell Wilson will be very available.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is a good he does.

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Speaker 15: There's something that we would love to see our quarter dude,

870
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 15: just I may snap who doesn't want to just go

871
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 15: out there? John Madden retro ball, techno ball. I'm throwing

872
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 15: the bomb pass on almost every player offense. Try and

873
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 15: light it up and be like, I'm trying to get

874
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 15: eight thousand yards passing in the season type stuff.

875
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: I feel you. I feel you for sure. Hi, misters,

876
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: I gotta keep it moving. You got anything else, schnap Man.

877
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 15: I think I'm happy that you see continues to win.

878
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 15: I'm not saying I want to cheer against their coach,

879
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 15: but also due to the fact that we had a

880
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 15: major loss here at the radio station because of the

881
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 15: artist known as Tony Pipe no longer being here, I

882
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 15: think that just freeze him up to one I started

883
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 15: the campaign. I think it was earlier this year. Last year,

884
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 15: Hi and Tony pipe for the next UC football coach.

885
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 15: If this coach keeps off winning, he could possibly get

886
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 15: a job that he doesn't deserve again and get him

887
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 15: out of Cincinnati. Could he got his team to a

888
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 15: ball game and somebody thinks that he can actually coach?

889
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

890
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 15: I'm still not buying buying into Scott Sanderfield period. Anyway,

891
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 15: shake from a fashion. I went by him from Rock

892
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 15: Paper Scissors.

893
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: You you've got to adjust with the times, mister Acey.

894
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: He's winning, we can't. We can't want him out because

895
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: he can't win, and then when he wins, we want

896
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: him out because he's winning. Come on, man, I.

897
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 15: Want him to win and I want him to move

898
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 15: on and then hire to.

899
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 14: Baby.

900
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, man, We'll talk soon.

901
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 25: Thank you.

902
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Take from Dayton. How you doing, Dick?

903
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 13: Hey, Kad, good talking to you.

904
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 6: Hey.

905
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 20: I watched I was out a little bit with Church,

906
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 20: but I was kind of impressed that drive he had

907
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 20: in that one handed test. You know, I thought I

908
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 20: didn't you know, he wouldn't adjust, but it was I

909
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 20: thought those drives were good. What do you think chick.

910
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: The second half drives are definitely good. The second half

911
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: drives are what you expect when you bring in a

912
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco like. Look, Joe Flacco can't move right. He's

913
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: not a guy. You have to protect him. You have

914
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 2: to run your offense quick. Guys have to get off

915
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and make plays. And in that

916
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: second half, that's what we saw. They executed it well.

917
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: Guys got off the line of scrimmage. Flacco delivered the

918
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: ball accurately and quickly to guys that made plays. And

919
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: that's who they're gonna have to be if Joe fla

920
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: For as long as Joe Flacco is the starting quarterback,

921
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm just concerned.

922
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 20: You know, I think Thursday, the Bengals play at home.

923
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 20: But the Bengals defense has to come up with a

924
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 20: good plan because you know, Eric Rodgers in that Rubin

925
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 20: and that Pittsburgh would just look was chilling cleave when

926
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 20: yesterday and you know they you know, but I'm thinking,

927
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 20: what do you think if I think the defense is

928
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 20: gonna have to protect the Bengals, you know, to get

929
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 20: you think Rogers will pick them apart. But I'm thinking

930
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 20: that the Bengals defense has to come up with a good,

931
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 20: good answer, don't you think.

932
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they've got it. Kind of be similar to

933
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 2: what they were in the first half yesterday. They gave

934
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: up some yards, but they weren't letting teams, you know,

935
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: get deep in the red zone and put points on

936
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: the board. You know, that's who they have to be.

937
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna give up yards. This is not This is

938
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: not a team that can play pressman coverage and pressure

939
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: and be attacking because they don't have the talent.

940
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 26: To do that.

941
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they tackle better, the biggest thing is

942
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: they need to tackle better. If they tackle better, they

943
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: can make things a little bit more frustrating for opposing

944
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: offenses and they can get off the field a little

945
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: bit more. And you know, you hope. I don't think

946
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers have a great, great offense. I think they're

947
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: gonna be in the twenty one twenty four point range

948
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: that game on Thursday night. So the big thing is

949
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson. Well, we see Trey Hendrickson. It's a back

950
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: issue with a turnaround from Sunday to Thursday. I don't

951
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: feel great about that. If they don't have Hendrickson, it's

952
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: it's gonna be an uphill climb.

953
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, well itsten nice to talk to you, chat.

954
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Dick, you have a good week. Okay, buddy, Okay,

955
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: bye bye, bye bye. All right, we're gonna take a break. Talkbacks,

956
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: getch talkbacks, talkbacks, gets talkbacks, talkbacks. After this Sincy three

957
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: sixty a service of Sincia shirts.

958
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: Now your chance to win at.

959
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 27: Ballox press the microphone, hand record your message for ustain

960
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 27: and tone, please keep it clean and don't be mean.

961
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 17: And a sprinkle sprinkled drip drip.

962
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: It's that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite part.

963
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 17: Of Sancy three sixties.

964
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 15: Austin, Buddy, play that talkback on your Please try not

965
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 15: too Saba.

966
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: Taja Austin is uh. I don't know if he's I

967
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: assume he's traveling back at some time today. I'll be

968
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: here tomorrow. If he's gonna sabotage talkbacks, it'll be tomorrow today.

969
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: It's Sean McMahon and I and we're not gonna do that.

970
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Have you listened to these in advance? Sean, I probably

971
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: should have Oh boy, here we go. Ready. I guess

972
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: i'd have the dump button ready. I've always got it ready.

973
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: Hey Chad, Hey, I'm from Savannah.

974
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 9: Hey man, you need to stop making sense. You're gonna

975
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 9: get kicked off the radio. Keep up to good to work, dude.

976
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: I'll try, I'll try to stop. I'll make less sense

977
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: of the rest of the show.

978
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 28: Hey, Sean, Hey Chad, It's Jeff and New Richmond. Really

979
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 28: sad day today to hear about the passing of Jim

980
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 28: Kelly Junior. Never had a chance to meet him, but

981
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 28: always enjoyed his calls on the radio. And no matter

982
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 28: how much or how little you knew about the game,

983
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 28: Jim always kept you informed. He will be missed. So

984
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 28: that being said, hopefully the Bearcats can pull one out

985
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 28: this upcoming weekend. You guys have a good day.

986
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jeff, appreciate it.

987
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 5: This station sick run back party, TI, what are.

988
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 14: We doing.

989
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: Well? Thanks for your input.

990
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: Hey there, Bearcat Nation. Dan here from Redding via Clifton.

991
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 29: Jim Kelly will always be mister Kelly to me, growing

992
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 29: up at his house with his oldest son, nicest, most

993
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 29: knowledgeable college football mind I've.

994
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: Ever talked to.

995
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 29: As a musician. He played my proposal to my wife.

996
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 29: He played our wedding at our anniversaries, birthday parties, so

997
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 29: we're going to miss that. I will miss him at

998
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 29: our tenth anniversary party. I love you, mister Kelly. There

999
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 29: you go, good stuff.

1000
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 13: SpongeBob literally just learned about Tony Pike and uh, well

1001
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 13: he's really.

1002
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 23: Off.

1003
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying, Like, what the.

1004
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 2: That's the first he censored himself. I appreciated, Hey, Jeff

1005
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: from Casey here.

1006
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 21: I do have a little bit of optimism after watching

1007
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 21: Flacco on that yesterday in the second half.

1008
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's all we need.

1009
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 25: Him to do.

1010
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 21: If he can do that, hopefully we can win some

1011
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 21: games and make it interesting since it's so wide open. Secondly,

1012
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 21: that first call you took today, We'll listening to you

1013
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 21: react to it was one of the funniest things I've

1014
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 21: heard in a lot.

1015
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: It was that was that was that was something.

1016
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 23: Yeah, steal catch to I rep in the city out

1017
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 23: here in sunny at my g rest in peace, Jim

1018
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 23: Kelly Junior, real talk. I'm gonna miss the dude on

1019
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 23: the radio. Now, the Bearcats has Ring twenty four. Do

1020
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 23: y'all see Nebraskat behind us? Replay that game again? I

1021
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 23: bet it will smoke him. This time, were ready, we seasoned,

1022
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 23: and we ready straight to the top. Texas Tech is

1023
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 23: a team to beat. Bengals.

1024
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: Man, Flaco, Yo, you proved, you proved me right. Now

1025
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: we can win Thursday.

1026
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 23: Let's get this division back.

1027
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.

1028
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 30: It's the paintball guru here, and as a UC alumna,

1029
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 30: I wanted to say condolences go out to the Kelly

1030
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 30: family and to the UC family. I never met mister Kelly,

1031
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 30: but I've enjoyed listening to him for years and it

1032
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 30: is a loss for sure.

1033
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: I agree Jim Jones was awesome.

1034
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:01,439
Speaker 9: Chad.

1035
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 16: I want to give you my condolences on the passing

1036
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 16: of Jim Kelly. I'm sorry to hear that. He sounds

1037
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 16: like he was a great man as far as the

1038
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 16: Bengals go, I agree. You are one of the few guys,

1039
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 16: especially in radio, that has common sense when it comes

1040
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 16: to these.

1041
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: Teams, but the Cincinnati teams.

1042
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 16: But as far I don't understand. Uh, you know, certain

1043
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 16: some fans have an optimism when it comes to this team.

1044
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 16: After losing four games in a row and another two

1045
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 16: score loss, I mean, I just don't get it if

1046
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 16: we're optimistic after that, My, oh my, how far are

1047
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 16: we falling?

1048
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's optimism as much as please Lord,

1049
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: don't let it be as bad as I think it

1050
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: is from three weeks ago, right like, boy, I the one,

1051
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: the one thing that that will lend you some optimism.

1052
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: The past three weeks. Uh, the Steelers are two and zero.

1053
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: The Browns, Bengals and Ravens have not won a game.

1054
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe that the Steelers are that good.

1055
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: I believe the Steelers will once again end up in

1056
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: that nine to ten win range that they always seem

1057
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: to land at. So I get that there's a sense

1058
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: of like, hey, Joe Flacco at least gives us a

1059
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: shot that Jake Browning did not. Unfortunately, the defense still stinks.

1060
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: There are still problems, massive problems along the offensive line.

1061
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: Although they were able to mitigate that sum yesterday, but

1062
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 2: it's still not a good roster. The chances that they

1063
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: get this thing on track and keep the team respectable

1064
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 2: until the possibility of Burrow comes back. I think everybody

1065
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: knows that that's unrealistic, But as a fan, you want

1066
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: to at least cling to a little hope, right like

1067
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: you want to give yourself a reason to watch on Sundays.

1068
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 2: I was at my cousin's house yesterday. It was a

1069
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: birthday party for my uh for for her two little ones,

1070
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: and the consensus was like, just Sunday Fundays is based

1071
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: around the Bengals for four months out of the year, like,

1072
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: this is what we do on Sundays, and if they stink,

1073
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: Sundays are not as fun. So I think people do

1074
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: hold to that optimism that, hey, like we want to

1075
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: still be able to enjoy Sundays in November and December,

1076
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: and if they stink, if they continue to bottom out,

1077
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: boy it's not a lot of fun. It's a lot

1078
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: of people in this this market that rely on that

1079
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: as a release and when they stink, nobody nobody wants

1080
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: your release to be watching terrible football.

1081
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 16: And the optimism, I get it, depending on what lens

1082
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 16: you're looking at it. Sure, if you're looking at it

1083
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 16: through the lens of yeah, we're just playing out the

1084
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 16: string at this point, definitely not gonna make the playoffs,

1085
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 16: but just want to see some positive growth, you know,

1086
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 16: going to the next year. Uh yeah, I get it.

1087
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 16: But if you're optimistic thinking that there's gonna be some

1088
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 16: kind of playoff run or something like that. You're just

1089
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 16: I mean, sorry, but you're lost, Chad. I know you

1090
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 16: don't think that way, but there would be surprised how.

1091
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 2: Many people in this city do.

1092
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1093
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, people are gonna be optimistic until they're

1094
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: not until it until there is truthfully no chance. I mean,

1095
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how you have much optimism after the

1096
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks. But Flacco at least changes the

1097
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: narrative a little bit enough for people to look at

1098
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: it and say, hey, maybe maybe yeah, no, but maybe

1099
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 2: he seems to have that effect everywhere he goes. He does.

1100
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 28: Hey, Chad, Jeff, and you Richard Again. I wanted to

1101
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 28: ask a couple of things about the Bearcats. First of all,

1102
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 28: they're five and one, twenty fourth in the country, and

1103
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 28: I still don't trust Scott Sanderfield. Is there something wrong

1104
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 28: with me? I just I don't trust him? So and

1105
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 28: then my other question was about Luke Fickle. They got

1106
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 28: me thirty four to nothing on Saturday. How much time

1107
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 28: does he have left?

1108
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: The Scott Saderfield thing, it's a you problem, and I

1109
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: get it, like they haven't done enough to fully earn

1110
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,560
Speaker 2: the trust. And I've thought about this a lot in

1111
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: terms of people's people's take on Satderfield the there is

1112
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: this very unrealistic expectation that because we're in the transfer portal,

1113
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: because we're in the nil era, that it's easy to

1114
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: just turn the roster around in one year, and it's not.

1115
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 2: And then it's easy to jump from the American Athletic

1116
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: Conference to the Big twelve Conference and compete in one year,

1117
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:18,440
Speaker 2: and it's not. And it's easy to replace your legendary

1118
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: head coach and most of your roster while doing both

1119
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: of those things, and it's not. Here's what I would say,

1120
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: if things were as bad as fans think that they were,

1121
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: this program wouldn't have Gavin Gerhart and Brendan Sorosby and

1122
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: Joe Royer and Jake Goldey and Dante Corleone, because they

1123
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: all would have left at the end of last year

1124
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: if the cultures stunk, if the program was on bad footing.

1125
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 2: Players can sense that those guys all had opportunit needs

1126
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: to make a lot more money elsewhere, a lot more

1127
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: money elsewhere, and they stayed. They believe in the program.

1128
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: And if guys like that, guys with legitimate NFL aspirations

1129
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: are taking less money and staying with Cincinnati because they

1130
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 2: believe in Scott Saderfield and they believe in what is

1131
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 2: being built. Shouldn't that be enough for you to do

1132
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: the same, especially when you're looking at a team that's

1133
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: sitting at five and one undefeated in the conference. Maybe

1134
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: that's maybe that's just me. You want to say, Russell

1135
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: Wilson throws a good deep ball. Stop feeling.

1136
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 13: Rude.

1137
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 31: Thank Chad Calvin and Newport. I agree exactly with what

1138
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 31: you were saying. If you can tell me that Joe

1139
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 31: Flacco is only gonna get sacked one time and there's

1140
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 31: gonna be no interceptions and no fumbles, I'll take my

1141
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 31: chances in any game any week. That's exactly what we

1142
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,799
Speaker 31: need to be seeing out of our offense.

1143
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: I think our.

1144
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 31: Defense has been overperforming the expectation. They've kept us in

1145
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 31: these games every week, and we need to see more

1146
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 31: out of the offense.

1147
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: I personally want to see more out of the running game. Yeah,

1148
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: I think we all want to see more out of

1149
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: the running game. But this is kind of the bugaboo

1150
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: when the focus has been gotta protect Joe Burrow, got

1151
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: to protect Joe Burrow, got to protect Joe Burrow. So

1152
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,879
Speaker 2: they have gone out and got a bunch of offensive

1153
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: linemen that it is widely considered that their specialty is

1154
01:12:55,439 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: pass blocking. They very clearly are not good at run

1155
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: blocking because there have been very, very few openings. I

1156
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: did like a couple of the runs I saw from

1157
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: some A J. P Ran yesterday, Sean, Yeah, he he

1158
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 2: runs the ball hard man. Chase Brown does too. For

1159
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: whatever reason, it felt like p Ryin had a little

1160
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: bit more pop yesterday when they gave him the ball.

1161
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: Six carries sixteen yards. Not a large sample size, but

1162
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like there was a lot of getting

1163
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: hit at and before the line of scrimmage. Yeah.

1164
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if that's if that's chalked up

1165
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: too experience, or maybe there's something else going on that

1166
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 4: we don't know about. You know, we never fully know

1167
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 4: the what's going on behind the scenes of players. But yeah, yes,

1168
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: some am JP Ryan definitely looked better than Chase Brown yesterday.

1169
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's keep it going, Chad. It's Chris and Alexander.

1170
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 10: Chris to give you some support and encouragement here. Man,

1171
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 10: you have been put in a really difficult situation the

1172
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 10: last few days, and.

1173
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 3: You're really overcoming it.

1174
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 9: You're being yourself.

1175
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: Keep up the good work, buddy, Appreciate that, man, that

1176
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 2: that means a lot. These radio is usually really easy

1177
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: and really fun. These last three shows, the the joy

1178
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: has been a challenge and that sucks because I do

1179
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: this because it's fun and it's what I wanted to

1180
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: do since I was a kid. And Uh, sports talk

1181
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 2: radio is not supposed to be sad and serious. Unfortunately

1182
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: circumstances mean every now and again it's going to be.

1183
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 6: Uh.

1184
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you have enjoyed it, and I have

1185
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: done my best to battle through. Thank you. And there's

1186
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: another drop by andre Yosavish. I mean we keep hearing

1187
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: about the receiver work that he's been doing, and then

1188
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: the off seat he's in this and and improvement that

1189
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: you got to stop dropping balls and hit you right

1190
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: in the hands, brother, right in the hands for a

1191
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 2: key third down, Like as you're trying to make a

1192
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: comeback and you drop a ball right off your hands

1193
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 2: for a first down. That that's that's not how you

1194
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: earn the trust of the people making the decisions.

1195
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 29: Hey cha, David Independence, do you think Burrow would even

1196
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 29: want to come back this year?

1197
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 26: If the Bengals were able to bounce back a little.

1198
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: If he's a hundred Jose ah competitor. I know as

1199
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: a fan, it's very easy to say I'm not doing that.

1200
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: Joe's a competitor. If he's one hundred percent and the

1201
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 2: Bengals are in position to battle or contend for a

1202
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: playoff spot, at absolutely think he would come back. If

1203
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 2: they're out of it. It would be malpractice to bring

1204
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: a guy coming back off of that injury. It just

1205
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. But yeah, I think if I

1206
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: think if the Bengals are in striking distance and and

1207
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: Joe can come back, I absolutely think he would. The

1208
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: guy is a competitor and this is his job.

1209
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 26: Hey Audi, Wait, No, it's still awkward saying just hey Audi. Wrong, guys,

1210
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 26: I got two takes from the weekend. Okay, the Indiana

1211
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 26: Hoosiers are for real in Ohio state, better watch out,

1212
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 26: and Joe Flacco is the answer?

1213
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 2: What was the question?

1214
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 10: Right?

1215
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 2: I heard? Yeah? What was the question? If Joe Flagger's

1216
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: the answer? What was the question. If the question was

1217
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 2: can the wing Bengals be a Super Bowl contender? The

1218
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: answer is no. If the the question was, does this

1219
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: make the Bengals more competitive than if Jake Browning was

1220
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: playing QB.

1221
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 11: The answer is yes, Hey Jim and Milford. I Hey Jim,

1222
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,839
Speaker 11: right row, Hey Jim and Milford.

1223
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 32: I got to run in some numbers in my head,

1224
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 32: the Bengals to get to ten and seven and kind

1225
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 32: of secure a playoff spot, which is funny in itself.

1226
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 32: They have to go eight and four the rest of

1227
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 32: a way, don't think so.

1228
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: Agreed that's all we got. I mean agreed. That would

1229
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: be a lot to ask for this group to get

1230
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: to ten wins with what they have remaining, especially you've

1231
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: got this four game stretch coming up, and then after

1232
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: that it's brutal for a month. Although Baltimore has not

1233
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 2: been good, especially without Lamar, what does that situation look

1234
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 2: like when is Lamar potentially going to come back. It's

1235
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 2: the chances that this is a contender four weeks from now,

1236
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: five weeks from now are pretty slim. But on that front,

1237
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: at least Sean, at least I knew what I was

1238
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: watching with Jake Browning. It was a team get its

1239
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: teeth kicked in. With Joe Flacco, maybe they get their

1240
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,879
Speaker 2: teeth kicked in, but I'm not going into Sundays almost

1241
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 2: certain of it. I was almost certain that they were

1242
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: going to get their teeth kicked in with Jake Browning

1243
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: your quarterback.

1244
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 4: So and you got to wonder, you know what, if

1245
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 4: this team had an average offensive line or an average defense,

1246
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 4: you know, how much better would you feel about the

1247
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 4: team knowing that your defense can help keep you in it?

1248
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: But right now you don't really have that confidence. I

1249
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: mean in the O line.

1250
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, Sunday they had a pretty good game,

1251
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 4: only allowing one sack, But this year that seems like

1252
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: more of an anomaly than anything. If it continues to

1253
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 4: be a trend, that's great, But so far through this,

1254
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 4: you know, this far in the season, it doesn't look

1255
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 4: good for those guys on the offensive line.

1256
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:21,799
Speaker 2: The defense.

1257
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I hope nobody's calling for Al Golden's

1258
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,440
Speaker 4: job right now because that would be ridiculous.

1259
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: But you know there's a few slight people out there

1260
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: who would.

1261
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1262
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean, they got to they got a draft better,

1263
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 4: they got to get guys in the offseason, they got

1264
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 4: to get better personnel, period, point the thanks period. Yeah,

1265
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 4: they just need more talent and they don't have enough

1266
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: of it. And you know, they they've relied too heavily

1267
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 4: on the development side of things. You know, how many

1268
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 4: times have you heard Miles Murphy's name called?

1269
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 2: Not many?

1270
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1271
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, do some of these guys maybe have some upside?

1272
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 17: Sure?

1273
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

1274
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: Jordan Battle seems like he's kind of faded off, Cam

1275
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: Taylor Britt lost his confidence.

1276
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: I think David Falter talked about that last night. We

1277
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: haven't even gotten to Logan Wilson getting benched. Yeah, that too.

1278
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the thing that that's something that's been

1279
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 4: quietly kind of pushed to the back burner.

1280
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: It's the guy they gave money to, right extended, right,

1281
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: believed in. Not only can they not get draft picks right,

1282
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 2: they can't get the win to let a guy go

1283
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: decision right. There's a lot to dislike about the load.

1284
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot of holes in the team. We could

1285
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 2: go on and on and on about this. I have

1286
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: been a big proponent. I don't ever see this thing

1287
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,719
Speaker 2: really getting to where it's gonna be. If Duke Tobin

1288
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: is running that scouting department, if Duke Tobin is making

1289
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: the decisions, because I don't think he's good at it.

1290
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 2: I think he has proven time over time that he's

1291
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: not very good at it. But it's deeper than just that.

1292
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you need a bigger scouting department in general,

1293
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: Duke says he doesn't.

1294
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1295
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: I think that's part of why the Brown family is

1296
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: fine right with Duke being at the HELM, Because if

1297
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: you bring in a GM and a new director of

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Speaker 2: player Personnel, they're going to say we need twenty scouts yep,

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Speaker 2: And the Brown family is going to say, well, Duke,

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: did it was six four? How'd that do for you? Right?

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Speaker 2: How'd that do for you? They need a lot of help. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good job on the talkbacks. Let's take a break more

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Speaker 2: after this. This is Sincy thirty sixty right here on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Must qualify for enrollments results.

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Speaker 8: Me, Barry is.

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Speaker 5: Football in the Natti, brought to you by Postman Law

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Speaker 5: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go right up our number two

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Speaker 2: and Football in the Natti. And uh, it's a Monday

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Speaker 2: midday quarterback and we're going to get to the Bearcats

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01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more an hour three. But something as

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01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: I was watching that game yesterday Sean stood out to me,

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: and when it comes to winning and losing, the fine

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Speaker 2: line at the highest levels between winning and losing. Right now,

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01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: the Bengals are killing themselves in the things that you

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: have to do to overcome not having the most talented roster.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are years, there are times when everything's

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01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: going to click. Your draft picks all develop at the

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01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 2: right pace, You add a couple of free agents that

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Speaker 2: really hit, your coaching staff is in a good place,

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01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 2: and everything kind of moves smoothly. The operation is a

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01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,839
Speaker 2: well oiled machine. There are times like where the Bengals

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01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 2: are at right now. There's injuries, there's lack of development,

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01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that make the wheels wobble.

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: The problem with this Bengals team for me right now,

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01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: and why I don't have a lot of optimism is

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 2: because of some of the fundamental things that we talked about,

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01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: like tackling seven misstackles yesterday, Yeah, three for Carter, three

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01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: for Night. You're putting two rookies out there on the

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01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: field they miss it combined six tackles. You can't have

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: that shot.

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 4: That's that's a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed.

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01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 4: You know, not tomorrow, but immediately that's that's football basics.

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Speaker 21: Man.

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: I want to want something else that drove me absolutely

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01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: nuts yesterday. There's a million things, but go ahead. Bengals

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01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: scored three times in the second half. Right yep, touchdown

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Speaker 2: to start the third quarter. Twenty two blaze, seventy two yards,

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01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: ten minutes, fourteen seconds of possession. On the ensuing kickoff,

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: they give up a thirty five yard return. Green Bay

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 2: starts at their thirty four yard line. Get a field goal. Kickoff,

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01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: thirty six yard return. Green Bay starts at their thirty

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Speaker 2: eight yard line. Get a touchdown to Jamar Chase, fighting, scrapping, clawing,

1345
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 2: need a start, need to stop, need to stop, desperately

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01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 2: thirty six yard return. Green Bay starts at the thirty

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: eight yard line three times in the second half. When

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01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 2: the defense desperately needed a stop, the special teams put

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01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: them in a position where the Green Bay started at

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01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: the thirty four, the thirty eight, and the thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: You want to know a big part of why Cincinnati

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01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: is really good again this year, and a big part

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: of why they were good. I know it's easy to

1354
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: look at Dez and Sauce and Kobe Bryant and Mike

1355
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 2: Warren and Josh Wiley and Alec Piers, like the names

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: could go on and on and on.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons that they were great is because

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Speaker 2: special teams. The expectation was for special teams to be

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Speaker 2: great every week. Yeah, every week. Luke Fickel was a

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Speaker 2: big special teams guy. Brian Mason's the best space teams

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Speaker 2: coach in football. I completely agree with that. He was.

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Speaker 2: He was very, very good.

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Speaker 4: They placed such emphasis on special teams at every single practice,

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01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 4: every single week. I mean, I can still hear Brian

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Speaker 4: Mason every practice, see the ball kicked, see the ball

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Speaker 4: you know, right, that still rings in my head every

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Speaker 4: time I hear Brian Mason's name. So yeah, I mean, yeah,

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01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 4: that was that was a major emphasis. It really was

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Speaker 4: the third phase of the game for them. It was

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Speaker 4: so important. A lot of times it was the second

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Speaker 4: or first phase of the game. Yeah, Like there there

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Speaker 4: were games that Cincinnati got wins in very large part

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Speaker 4: because the special teams was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And even more so when you're in the situation

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Speaker 2: that the Bengals are in. Now, Yeah, that's not a

1377
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: great roster if you're going to overcome a shaky roster.

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01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: You can't have things like bad tackling. You can't have

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01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 2: things like letting the opponent start almost at midfield after

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01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: three scores in the second half, when you're desperately trying

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Speaker 2: to come back, and you know you have a defense

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01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: that's shaky, that has played their butts off, that has

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01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: put you in a position where you're still in the

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 2: game after running eleven plays in the first twenty five

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Speaker 2: minutes of the game on your offense, because your offense

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01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: was that bad. They gained one yard in the first quarter.

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01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 2: The defense fought tooth and nail to keep them in

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01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 2: that game, and then you start to get the offense

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01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: rolling and special teams allows Green Bay to get into

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01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: position to drive short fields, to extend the lead and

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Speaker 2: to keep Cincinnati at arms length. YEP, that's Zach Taylor.

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 2: That's on Zach Taylor and the culture and the understanding

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: that it seems like this football team doesn't have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think another thing, Chad, And you know,

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01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: a lot of Bengals fans out there might say it

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01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: took you this long, but before I'm always hesitant to

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 4: jump on coaches for a lot of things because I

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01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 4: think people tend to blame coaches for things that aren't

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Speaker 4: necessarily their fault. But going back to the Broncos game

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago, the pre snap penalties, Yeah,

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01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 4: that happened consecutively. To me, that's discipline on coaching, and

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01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 4: that starts at the coaching level. That was like the

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 4: first game where I legitimately looked directly at Zach Taylor

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01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 4: and thought, Okay, that is on him, nobody else if

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01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 4: you ask me that, because he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: He also doesn't seem very angry about it. He panted

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Speaker 2: the sideline.

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Speaker 4: He's just got that same blank look on his face,

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01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 4: and you're like, why are you not like pissed at

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Speaker 4: your team right now?

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Speaker 25: Man?

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Speaker 2: You know it is a must if you are going

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01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: to win with lesser talent, if you are if you

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01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: are not going to have elite talent, and you can

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Speaker 2: still win, you can still be good. You have to

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01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 2: be fundamentally sound. Yep. And we are watching a team that,

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Speaker 2: week after week after week, plays poor fundamental football over

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01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: and over and over again. Yep. All right, let's take

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Speaker 2: a break. Zach did speak a little earlier. We'll listen

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Speaker 2: to that. At the top of the hour more after this.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back our number three.

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Speaker 17: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into a little bit more Bearcats in this

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01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: hour and their twenty to eleven win over Central Florida

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01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 2: on Saturday. But a little bit more Bengals here, as

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01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor spoke this afternoon, and let's hear from him.

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Speaker 33: Sorry, we'll see what you know early in the week Monday.

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01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 33: We'll have to give it kind of day today listing

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01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 33: here and see what There are a lot of guys

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Speaker 33: that are sore to us up to hey By here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 33: He'll be out for this game for sure. Get more

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01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 33: information now, just got to pick it's it's gonna be

1448
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 33: a while. We'll just see what that means.

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01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 9: Marius should be good to go.

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01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 19: Sam.

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01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 33: Sam's progressing back, so we'll get a chance. So we

1452
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 33: don't do a lot of full speed to work this week,

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01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 33: but I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 9: And then you got Lucas in some practice last week.

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01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 33: Yeah, he's a good We'll just continue to make a

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01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 33: decisions on that. But from a physical standpoint, he's so good.

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01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 33: Protocol yes, ye end obviously gets then quickly there.

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01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,680
Speaker 8: What's kind of your idea of the approach to take

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Speaker 8: as that group?

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Speaker 33: Tanner, you still got three other ones, you know, three

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01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 33: that that played for us, So Kam mc granny has

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01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 33: been up and down over the course of the season

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01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 33: last season, so still have three guys there.

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Speaker 28: I look back on it, how'd you feel about the

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01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,839
Speaker 28: operation with Flacco quarterback?

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Speaker 19: First game?

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Speaker 33: I thought he's settled in, Uh, you know, especially being

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Speaker 33: on the road and just having to hear from me

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01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 33: in the huddle. It's hard to hear sometimes with the

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Speaker 33: nonverbal stuff, with the kind of scrimmage.

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Speaker 9: I thought he operated really well, you know.

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Speaker 33: I mean, it's uh surprising how quickly he was able

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01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 33: to do that, But give us a lot of confidence

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01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 33: and seeing how he did it so we get a

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Speaker 33: chance to carry it over to home and use the

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Speaker 33: verbal cadence and all that kind of stuff. But really

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Speaker 33: really pleased with how he operated and gave us a chance.

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Speaker 8: This is gonna happen without Trey. I mean, how how

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01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 8: differently did you feel?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 8: Are there ways to scheme around not having him out there?

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Speaker 33: I mean, we're, yeah, trying our best to find ways

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01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 33: to manufacture pressure, pressure and get after the quarterback. And

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01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 33: I know I was, you know, trying to do everything

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01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 33: you can to make sure we can affect there the

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Speaker 33: team's quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Make that in the game you put judge.

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Speaker 8: At the scene.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, it's again, I think he's gonna get better that

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01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 33: every rep he gets. And you know, heating demetries out there,

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Speaker 33: played with a lot of energy loganers out there, and

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Speaker 33: and so again it's a room that's going to continue

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01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 33: to improve, and they're just going to need the experience.

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01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 33: Like we've got a lot of rookies out there playing

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01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 33: right now, you know, and they're gonna get better with

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Speaker 33: every single game that they have and all the experience

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Speaker 33: thing together, and I think it's worthball for them to

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Speaker 33: gain that experience.

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Speaker 34: Did you feel like it was a risk going into

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Speaker 34: that game to put him out there in that capacity

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Speaker 34: with two rookies in that environment, or whereas you.

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Speaker 8: Could have had maybe Logan play a little bit more.

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01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I trust him, you know.

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Speaker 33: That's that's why we made the decision, because he's shown

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Speaker 33: operationally he can handle it. I think anytime you put

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Speaker 33: a rookie out there, there's there's an element of risks

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Speaker 33: to it, and just when are you gonna expose yourself

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Speaker 33: with that risk? Are you going to do it sooner

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Speaker 33: other than later? And I just felt he's shown enough

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Speaker 33: to just continue to work through it. We're going to

1511
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 33: see constant improvement every single game and and so again

1512
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 33: a lot of confidence in him and we'll continue that

1513
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 33: move forward.

1514
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 2: Charlie, have you an else kind of be in a

1515
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: conscious decision that you're gonna you're you're willing to play

1516
01:33:59,000 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: young guys maybe even more.

1517
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 33: Yeah, I mean that's both sizeable. You know, our two

1518
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 33: starting guards have been rookies. So again, we're not going

1519
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 33: to hesitate to play guys that we think have a

1520
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 33: lot of potential for us. And there's going to be

1521
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 33: some growing pains there. But all the guys that we

1522
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 33: have are are they're intelligent guys. It's important to them,

1523
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 33: they're mature, and so we're gonna get them out there

1524
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 33: and they've earned it. It's not like we're just saying, hey,

1525
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 33: we're gonna play young guys that haven't earned the opportunity.

1526
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 33: These guys have earned the opportunity to shown us that

1527
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 33: there's a lot of potential there and that they're capable

1528
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 33: of doing it and helping us win. And so that's

1529
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 33: why we have them out there.

1530
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 8: There was in the film, how would you says the tackling.

1531
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 9: Not good enough?

1532
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 33: You know, too many opportunities there where they got extra

1533
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 33: yardage and the first chance we get we got to

1534
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 33: get them on the ground, and too many examples of that.

1535
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 35: Not haven't us played a million games? But can you

1536
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 35: still put into context the challenge that it was for

1537
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 35: him to parachute in four days before a game, whatever

1538
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 35: it was, and start and play a pretty good game

1539
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 35: in an NFL game on the road.

1540
01:34:58,840 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1541
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 33: I mean, first of all, probably doesn't know many of

1542
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 33: the names of the guys on the team. You know,

1543
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 33: there's young players that are out there that he probably

1544
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 33: doesn't know what their skill set is or how they work.

1545
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 33: And so just trusting the information he's got going out

1546
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 33: there and making playees and making some adjustments and signaling

1547
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 33: a couple of routes, you know, I can think one

1548
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 33: he wasn't quite sure what was going on, so he

1549
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 33: signed Jama route and gave Hi an opportunity. And I

1550
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 33: just can't say no if it was incredibly impressive to

1551
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 33: go in there and do what he did on so

1552
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 33: short notice. He didn't get here on Sunday night or

1553
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 33: Monday morning. He got here Tuesday after the game plan

1554
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 33: was in, you know, and in one o'clock, really our

1555
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 33: first seging on planet is in. And so he has

1556
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 33: to drive in that night and practice the next day.

1557
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 33: And he gave his confidence just the way he handled

1558
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 33: himself and just carried himself through the week and through practice.

1559
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 33: I think he gave gave everybody a lot of confidence

1560
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 33: that he was going to be out there and execute

1561
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 33: and and he certainly did that for us.

1562
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 9: And you know, give us a re juice there.

1563
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 35: And now unfortunately you don't have too much time here.

1564
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 35: You can't really how much more can you put on

1565
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 35: us plate before Thursday night?

1566
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 33: Can you'd be surprised? You know, it's it's we're we're

1567
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 33: capable of. But now that we know what he understands

1568
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 33: and how quickly he hits his brain and makes sense

1569
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 33: to him, and now that we've seen him operate in

1570
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 33: our offense with our players and how he takes to that,

1571
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 33: I think he really enjoys throwing of these guys. And

1572
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 33: so again we'll continue to press the envelope. We don't

1573
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 33: want to overwhelm them. We don't want to get to

1574
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 33: point of diminishing your turns. Were now we got too

1575
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 33: much and we're forgetting what this means.

1576
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 9: And that means. But I think he's shown that he's

1577
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 9: capable of taking on a little bit more.

1578
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 25: You go through it.

1579
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 9: For he's played this for whether anybody, and he's been

1580
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 9: the same a coach. Does that matter.

1581
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 33: Familiar I think it matters, Yeah, absolutely, he knows their

1582
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 33: style of play, he knows their level of aggression on

1583
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 33: defense and and playing against most of their guys over there.

1584
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 9: He was an indie last year playing against.

1585
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 33: Him, So yeah, he's been in clear So of course he's,

1586
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 33: like you said, play as much as anybody has. I mean,

1587
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 33: obviously he's probably played him more than anybody has in

1588
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 33: this league it's currently playing. So I think he's got

1589
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 33: a great sense of what it takes to one.

1590
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: Going every year. You guys have a short week going

1591
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 2: into a Thursday night game.

1592
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 9: But the fact that it's a divisional opponent, new quarterback.

1593
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 2: What different challenges does this short week provide for you guys?

1594
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 3: Well, the same is them.

1595
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 9: You know it's there on short week as well.

1596
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 33: Uh, they're just coming off a divisional game, So it's

1597
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 33: there's no different challenges for us for them. Again, our

1598
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 33: guys just got to get in the get in the

1599
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 33: training room, get their bodies back right. Most of it's

1600
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 33: above the neck work, and we're out there working over

1601
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 33: the next couple of days just understanding what we're trying

1602
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 33: to get done in the game plan.

1603
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 9: But again, it's it is what it is. It's the

1604
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 9: same for both teams.

1605
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 8: Mike Tomlin spoke today about being surprised that the.

1606
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 34: Browns would trade Joe Flacco to you, he said, He said,

1607
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 34: you know, it doesn't make sense to me to trade

1608
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 34: a quarterback that you think enough of.

1609
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 8: To make your opening day start, or to a division

1610
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 8: opponent that's hurting in that area. We're you surprised that

1611
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 8: a team in division was willing to help.

1612
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 9: You, So I was happy. That's That's my only comment.

1613
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 12: Where's the balance of saying it's a big game, division game, obviously,

1614
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 12: but one of seventeen versus where you are in the standing,

1615
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 12: where they are in the standings, and putting a little

1616
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 12: at it.

1617
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 33: If this is on this game, I think there's a

1618
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 33: lot of emphasis on this game. This is we're coming

1619
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 33: off the stretch we've come off of. We want to win,

1620
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 33: We're hungry for it. Our guys have worked for it.

1621
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:32,640
Speaker 33: We got to do a better job from start to

1622
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 33: finish getting that done. But there's a lot here. You

1623
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 33: got a home divisional game. The division is where it

1624
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 33: is right now. You know where the does it stands,

1625
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 33: the top two teams at the top, and you get

1626
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 33: a chance to knock them down a peg and put

1627
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 33: yourself up one. So I guys understand what's a stake

1628
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 33: and it's it's big for us, and we'll treat it

1629
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 33: to such and you guys got to get to work

1630
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 33: and you got to have a great performance by everybody.

1631
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 2: There you go. There's Zach Taylor from earlier today as

1632
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 2: they gets set to host the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night.

1633
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 2: Quick turnaround. These Thursday night games are weird. Cincinnati does

1634
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: have some questions, especially on the injury front, and mainly

1635
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: with Trey Hendrickson. You could see in the first half

1636
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 2: a much different defense with Trey Hendrickson on the field

1637
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 2: than in the second half when Green Bay was able

1638
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: to move the ball pretty freely without that threat of

1639
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Hendrickson off the edge. The biggest thing, though, is you

1640
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: know there is a chance in this division because I

1641
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: don't think and maybe I'll be wrong on this, and

1642
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 2: maybe this is the year that Pittsburgh takes advantage and

1643
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:59,759
Speaker 2: is resurgent and finds their way to remain atop the AFC.

1644
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 2: But if you look, they get the Bengals, and then

1645
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 2: the Packers, and then the Colts are playing well, and

1646
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: then the Chargers, who are playing well, then the Bengals again,

1647
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:16,919
Speaker 2: then they get the Bears. But Bills, Ravens, Lions, Ravens

1648
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,759
Speaker 2: like those are all the teams that are still left

1649
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,560
Speaker 2: on Pittsburgh schedule. I do not think this is a

1650
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh team that is going to run away and hide

1651
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 2: at twelve wins, let's say that. So that does mean

1652
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity for the Bengals to play themselves back

1653
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: into contention in the division. If you beat Pittsburgh this week.

1654
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 2: The Bengals sit at three and four, the Steelers are

1655
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 2: four and two with a difficult couple games coming up,

1656
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 2: and the Bengals going into the Bears and the Jets.

1657
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 2: That's opportunity presenting itself for Cincinnati here. Do I feel

1658
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: confident about it, No, of course not. But if you

1659
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: if you win this game Thursday, and you've got the

1660
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: Bears and the Jets and they've got the Packers and

1661
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 2: the Colts, all of a sudden, you're both sitting at

1662
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: four and four, or wait, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh will be four

1663
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: and four. The Bengals that have an extra game, they'd

1664
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: be five and four because they haven't had to buy yet.

1665
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: So that's where the optimism comes from. It's a lot

1666
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 2: of what if it's a it's a lot of taking

1667
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 2: for granted things that are far from a sure thing.

1668
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: It's far from a sure thing. I don't care how

1669
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: bad the Bears and the Jets are. This is not

1670
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 2: a great Bengals roster. They can lose to anybody on

1671
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 2: any given Sunday. But hypothetically, we're to playing the hypothetical game.

1672
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: And you pick off the Steelers on Thursday night, then

1673
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 2: you've got a chance to play yourself back into it

1674
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks. Conversely, if they don't

1675
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 2: get the job done and they lose to the Steelers

1676
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: and now the Bengals are sitting at two and five

1677
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: and the Steelers are sitting at five and one, the

1678
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: Bengals aren't gonna get back up for a wildcard spot.

1679
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 2: That's just too unlikely. Too many teams to climb back

1680
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: over Chargers, Broncos, Chiefs, Colts, Jaguars, Bill's Patriots. The Bengals

1681
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 2: are gonna put themselves in a position to win the

1682
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,919
Speaker 2: wildcard without Joe Burrow. And you can't beat the Steelers

1683
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 2: at home on Thursday night football. I think we all

1684
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: know the reality of that. That's why I think yesterday

1685
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't overly concerned in terms of how the team looked.

1686
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 2: I was overly concerned how they looked against the Vikings,

1687
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 2: the Broncos, and the Lions, because they looked like crap.

1688
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 2: They looked terrible, terrible, terrible on offense, slightly less terrible

1689
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:43,599
Speaker 2: on defense, but still not good enough, not even remotely

1690
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 2: close to good enough. When I watched that game yesterday,

1691
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: that was a team that was competitive on the road

1692
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 2: against the Green Bay Packers, with Joe Flacco just getting

1693
01:43:52,960 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 2: to the building on Wednesday, four days to prepare. So

1694
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 2: essentially it comes down to this, It comes down to Thursday.

1695
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's a lot to talk about

1696
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 2: from the Green Bay game. There's really just not They

1697
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: were going to lose that game. I was as confident

1698
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 2: as pretty much anything you could have confidence in that

1699
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 2: they weren't going to lose that game. The question was

1700
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: were they going to put up some fight? Were they

1701
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 2: going to make this difficult for the Packers? And they did,

1702
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 2: and would they show that would Joe Flacco at the

1703
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:45,719
Speaker 2: helm the offense at least looked relatively competent.

1704
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 4: If I can add on to that, shed yeah, wasn't

1705
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 4: at least a little bit refreshing, albeit in a loss.

1706
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 4: It was a little bit refreshing to see Jamar Chase

1707
01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 4: do Jamar Chase t But that's Joe Flacco, right, That's yeah,

1708
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: that's that's on him too.

1709
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: I agree. Joe Flacco has played a ton of football.

1710
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco has never had a Jamar Chase. Joe Flacco

1711
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 2: understood the assignment that Jake Browning did not understand. Get

1712
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 2: it to your best guys, get it to Jamar Chase

1713
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 2: and let Jamar do the things that I mean that

1714
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 2: touchdown catch, the last touchdown was absurd. That inane. It

1715
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 2: was absurd. That's the byproduct of having the best player

1716
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: in the game at his position. He's going to make

1717
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 2: some of those plays. Joe Flacco still has a phenomenal

1718
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 2: arm Yep, some of the other physical traits have gone

1719
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 2: a little bit by the wayside. And look, Green Bay

1720
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:50,640
Speaker 2: did a good job creating pressure, but Flacco got the

1721
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: ball out. He just looked collected in the pocket. That's

1722
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: who he is. He's just been there and done that.

1723
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 25: You know.

1724
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 2: That's why we've asked for all these years if Joe

1725
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 2: Flacco was a leader or not. Yep. Yeah, that goes

1726
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 2: back aways let's go to David Reading before we get

1727
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 2: out of here for this segment. Dave, what's that man?

1728
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 25: Hey, Chad, I'm with you all the way on the

1729
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 25: chasing points thing. I got some breaking news for you.

1730
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 25: Callahan just got fired.

1731
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 2: Wow.

1732
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 25: But what I want to talk about is Jim Kelly's mind,

1733
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 25: and I hope you'll give me some time. I don't

1734
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 25: know how much time here, just cock here, but.

1735
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 2: We got a couple of minutes. You're okay, okay?

1736
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 14: Uh.

1737
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 25: He's he's a Queen's a good friend of my family's.

1738
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 25: I've known about the cancer unfortunate for by more than most.

1739
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 25: My sister Peg is Sarah's uh what do you call

1740
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 25: athletic trainer? And my my brother Ken uh, who's Tony

1741
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 25: Pike's head coach. In high school? Son son played with

1742
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 25: Bryan uh uh, Jim's son for a lot of years.

1743
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 25: But I'm want to tell you my personal thing with Jim.

1744
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 25: I worked at a place called steel Craft in the

1745
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 25: Red Air and Blue Ash Steel plant, and back in

1746
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 25: seventy nine, I was there a few months. My partner

1747
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 25: was a guy named Larry Peterson. He goes, he knew

1748
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 25: who that is over there, and I go no, I'll

1749
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 25: know who that is there. That's Jim Kelly. I said, no,

1750
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 25: it's hot, he said, Jim Kelly. So you see Jim

1751
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 25: Kelly said yeah, I said, you're said. Now, there's a

1752
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,680
Speaker 25: boyhood friend of mine. I've known him since as a kid.

1753
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 25: He's I guess I said, what's he doing here? He

1754
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,600
Speaker 25: got by the bears and all? He said, no, I

1755
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 25: guess it between jobs right now. So I got to

1756
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 25: know Jim and he was just the greatest guy in

1757
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 25: the worl aged joke and he he and I know

1758
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 25: people have talked about him being a musician, talented musician,

1759
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 25: but he also refereed games, he coached.

1760
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 20: He just maintain.

1761
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 25: I said, Jim, you're one talent dude.

1762
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 19: Man.

1763
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 25: He just moss by law.

1764
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: He's one of those He's one of those guys that

1765
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 2: was talented at everything.

1766
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 25: But the story, I want what I knew him for

1767
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 25: a month or so. Here's how great of a guy was.

1768
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 25: I'm sure you were as a lad back then, but uh,

1769
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 25: I was at the Hoo tragedy in seventy nine.

1770
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 2: I was too, So I was just a lad back then, right,

1771
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 2: I was.

1772
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 25: Actually I was actually right in the middle of the

1773
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 25: fray and a lots of story for another time. But

1774
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 25: uh uh so I what you know back that's back

1775
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 25: for the cell phones and everything, so you know what's

1776
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 25: going on. So next day I go into work and

1777
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 25: Jim's pacing the fore back and forth. I knew this

1778
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 25: man maybe about a month or so. And I walked in.

1779
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 25: He oh, Dave, y'all right, y'all right, and yeah, you're

1780
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 25: twenty four years old. We think you're invisible. You don't

1781
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 25: think about what you just went through. He was just

1782
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 25: so worried about me. He only knew me from like

1783
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 25: a month or so, and he just greatest dude. And uh,

1784
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 25: I was lucky. My my son Brandon played on the

1785
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 25: twenty ten Reading high school team, which they stayed foul

1786
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 25: fort they aren't him last year. During the game and

1787
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 25: they all met down of wines and reading at the

1788
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 25: game and uh see, I coach a lot of them kids.

1789
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 25: I'll see you tell these guys later down there to

1790
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 25: go down there. And he said, hey, there's a somebody

1791
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 25: walking around here named Jim Kelly. Uh you see my name,

1792
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 25: you know, Heiner on my shirt. He said, are you

1793
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 25: related to Ken and Days? Yeah? Uh, my dad's day

1794
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 25: he's gonna be down here soon. So it was great.

1795
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 25: It was uh, and that'tal I knew about him. He

1796
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 25: seemed pretty well and seeing you know, a piece everything,

1797
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 25: and uh gave him a hug and talked to him

1798
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 25: for a while, and I was just so grateful, Uh

1799
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 25: Bill see that day. And I'm just so you know,

1800
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 25: I was joking. Me and my brother Scot always joke

1801
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,480
Speaker 25: about uh Tony Pike and uh, the guys every interviewed somebodyways,

1802
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 25: so and so you're the best, you're the best. Everybody

1803
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 25: can't be.

1804
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 2: The best, right, Jim Kelly was the best.

1805
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 25: Jim Kelly was the best.

1806
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Tony. I love Tony.

1807
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 25: Oh yeah yeah, but I'm not putting them down way

1808
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 25: the people use you're the best.

1809
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 2: You're the best, right, I love Tony. But if you're

1810
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 2: asking me who was the best, Tony or Jim, I'm

1811
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 2: taking Jim.

1812
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 14: Shan.

1813
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 25: I know, I know, you know Big Mode that.

1814
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 20: Used to work with me.

1815
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Mode knows real well too.

1816
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:17,560
Speaker 25: I hope you know. I hope you're Mod's listening. Not

1817
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 25: next time he seeming you know about it. Hopefully he

1818
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 25: knows about Jim. I'm sure he probably found out by now.

1819
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 25: But he was real close to Jim too. Jim was

1820
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 25: this kind of guy. He had to get close to it.

1821
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 25: He was the greatest man.

1822
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. There's no doubt about that.

1823
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 35: Man.

1824
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 2: I am internally, I'm eternally sorry for your loss. And

1825
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 2: it sucks. It's been a crappy, crappy day.

1826
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 25: It's truly roughy.

1827
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: And he's seventy one by he probably seventy one, yeah, yeah.

1828
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 25: But just the greatest guy in the world. I just

1829
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 25: had to get on here, and I'm going to keep

1830
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 25: my composure as much as I could.

1831
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 2: I did not earlier today.

1832
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 25: I consider him a good friend. I just see him

1833
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 25: time to time anymore.

1834
01:50:58,520 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 15: Now.

1835
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 25: But he's I mean, he's so modest. He did so much.

1836
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 25: I mean, people don't realize he got said about a

1837
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 25: bear who had bad knees or reason he didn't play

1838
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,840
Speaker 25: pro football. But he was just a great player. It's

1839
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 25: just I think people say it all the time.

1840
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 20: He's a good player.

1841
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 25: Every even better human being.

1842
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes they were better players. He was amazing, all right, man.

1843
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call, thank you, and I appreciated Dave.

1844
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 2: And we'll be thinking of you and your family. On

1845
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: the loss of gym as well.

1846
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 3: Thank you man, appreciate buddy.

1847
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break if you want to

1848
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: get Bengals in. I got one more phone call to

1849
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 2: get to from Scott, if you want to get some

1850
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 2: more Bengals in before I move on to the Bearcats

1851
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 2: for the last half hour, last ten to fifteen minutes,

1852
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 2: and then Moe Live from Twin Peaks for the what

1853
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: should still be the Tony and Mo Football Show. I

1854
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 2: think that's what I'm gonna call it today. More after

1855
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 2: this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1856
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 27: Now your chance to win at Bow three sixty is

1857
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 27: back on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1858
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm doing a great job on the music today, by

1859
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 2: the way, Sean, I do my best. The start of

1860
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 2: this thing was a little rough, but I think we've

1861
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: rebounded pretty well. Yeah, we're turning it around. We got

1862
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 2: back on track. We turned it around. I won't feel

1863
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 2: as bad turning it over to Mow as I would

1864
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: have felt a couple hours ago. Make deal with what

1865
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 2: you have exactly. Let's go to Scott and Dayton. Scott,

1866
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 2: what's up, my brother.

1867
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 6: How are you doing?

1868
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 2: Have a tough day? We've had better days, Scott. But yeah,

1869
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 2: we're doing all right.

1870
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 6: I can understand that. Hey, I'm not sure that the

1871
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 6: discipline factor that you quoted about the Bengals being undisciplined

1872
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 6: is quite the stat.

1873
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: That you want to use. Okay, Well, you think they've

1874
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 2: been disciplined.

1875
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 6: There are fourth fewest penalties in the NFL.

1876
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: There's more to it than penalties, very very Look, if

1877
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: you look at the numbers, I usually the most disciplined

1878
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 2: team is pretty good and the least disciplined team is

1879
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 2: pretty bad. If you're using penalties as the only metric

1880
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 2: for discipline, well, I'm.

1881
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 6: Using that because that's where they've been under Zach Taylor.

1882
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 2: Okay, but my point is, you have a team that's

1883
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 2: not super talented. I don't think we I don't think

1884
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 2: there's any reason to put this team in the top

1885
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 2: half of the NFL in terms of most talented rosters. Right,

1886
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 2: you have some stars, but there's there's there's not a

1887
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 2: lot on defense after you get past Trey Hendrickson's name.

1888
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 6: Right, Well, they did pretty well against a really, really

1889
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 6: good team yesterday. But I see your point. I understand

1890
01:53:56,680 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 6: what you're saying.

1891
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm what I'm saying is if that that's going to

1892
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: be the case, you can win that way. But if

1893
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 2: you win that way, you have to be better at things.

1894
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:09,839
Speaker 2: And somebody corrected me and said that there was fourteen

1895
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,440
Speaker 2: miss tackles yes I think it was seven from the linebackers.

1896
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 2: Fourteen miss tackles yesterday. You have that opportunity. They have

1897
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: that opportunity in the second half where they're scoring right

1898
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,839
Speaker 2: and then you're allowing the Packers to start just inside

1899
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 2: their own forty. Like that is the little stuff that

1900
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 2: can keep a team that is playing from a talent

1901
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: deficiency keep them from winning games. That's kind of what

1902
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 2: I was getting at, Like, if you look at it,

1903
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: it's just using UC as an example. Right, the past

1904
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: couple of years, special teams were bad. There were a

1905
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 2: lot of kind of head scratching turnovers. They were doing

1906
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 2: things to prevent themselves from getting across the finish line

1907
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: in close games, in games that are tested. They cleaned

1908
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 2: up the special teams. They've cleaned up the turnovers and

1909
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 2: the penalties to an extent. They're still probably penalized a

1910
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 2: little too much, especially offensive line related for my liking,

1911
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,839
Speaker 2: but because they have cleaned up some of that stuff.

1912
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,839
Speaker 2: They have allowed themselves to be in a better position

1913
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 2: to win without Joe Burrow especially. You can't let Green

1914
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Bay start at the thirty six to thirty eight and

1915
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: the thirty eight on those three second half drives, is

1916
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 2: what I'm getting. I do agree with that.

1917
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 6: I think you're also under selling them just a little bit.

1918
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:44,120
Speaker 19: I mean of this schedule is the back half of the.

1919
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 6: Schedule they have at least six quasi winnable games.

1920
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 2: I said that, and I said it starts in this

1921
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 2: stretch right here. That's why I wasn't overly concerned about

1922
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 2: the Packers game because Steelers, Jets bear Steelers. That's going

1923
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 2: to give you an indication of whether this is a

1924
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 2: team where that can compete or not. Now, yes they

1925
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 2: do have they do finish with Brown's Cardinals or Dolphins

1926
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 2: Cardinals Browns, but if you're you know, five and nine

1927
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: at that point, it doesn't really matter.

1928
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 6: Well, again, they that was a pretty big gauntlet of

1929
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 6: teams that they just played for.

1930
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 2: But they got smoked in three of those games.

1931
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did well, it's because they turned the ball

1932
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 6: over too much and we're getting terrible quarterback plays.

1933
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 2: Yes, the quarterback play is going to get better with Flacco.

1934
01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: You've got to get better on special teams, and you've

1935
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 2: got to be a better tackling team. And if they

1936
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 2: do that, I think Flacco does give them a decent

1937
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: chance to win some of these games.

1938
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Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw tomlins comment.

1939
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 2: About the Browns trading him, Yeah, Like, why would the

1940
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Browns trade him inside the division when they know he

1941
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 2: can go help the Bengals. The Bengals were dead in

1942
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 2: the water and a divisional foe. Like, I agree with

1943
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin there, I'd be pissed at the Browns.

1944
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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, all right, well, I hope tomorrow is

1945
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 6: a better day for you.

1946
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Scott. You have a good one. Thanks man,

1947
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. All right, let's take a break.

1948
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 2: We'll get to some Bearcats real quick. We're going to

1949
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 2: get back. Since Ninty's ESPN fifteen thirty boom right along,

1950
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 2: since Sninati's ESPN fifteen thirty Chad Brendle in for Austin.

1951
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 2: He'll be back tomorrow. I'm sure you guys will be

1952
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 2: glad to have him back. And really, for the first

1953
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 2: time in my life, I'm gonna be glad to not

1954
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 2: be doing radio tomorrow. I need a break, Sean, I

1955
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 2: need to break, man. Man, it's been a rough it's

1956
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: been a rough three shows. But I'm a team player

1957
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 2: and I have battled through as best as humanly possible.

1958
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: Let's get to the Bearcats twenty eleven winner over the

1959
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 2: Golden Knights of Middle Florida Institute of Space and Hospitality.

1960
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Don't call him Central Florida. They don't like that. No,

1961
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 2: that's I took there. They don't like being called Central Florida.

1962
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,840
Speaker 2: So I started calling the Middle Florida. I love it.

1963
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 2: Look that that's that Central Florida team has a solid defense,

1964
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 2: and that solid defense gave Cincinnati some trouble. I don't

1965
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: think Cincinnati expected them to load the box the way

1966
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 2: that they did, and and I don't blame them. If

1967
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 2: I said this on Saturday night on our postgame show

1968
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 2: on Bearcat Journal, if you're a coach and you're watching

1969
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: your next opponent, do what that running game did to

1970
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 2: Iowa State the week before. I'm telling my guys, like

1971
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 2: that Tywie Walker, those two hits that he put on

1972
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 2: Iowa State's defense, the Trucks did that would have been

1973
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 2: playing in my facility on a loop all week to

1974
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,680
Speaker 2: let those guys know you're gonna let this happen to you.

1975
01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna let this guy run over you. And I

1976
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,360
Speaker 2: thought you see up did a very good job taking

1977
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 2: away Cincinnati's running game. That impacted their ability to ever

1978
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 2: really find a rhythm to connect the dots in terms

1979
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: of staying ahead of the sticks. There was a lot

1980
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 2: of first and ten, second, nine, third and seven, and

1981
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 2: when you do that, you're gonna get a lot of

1982
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 2: three announce And that part was a little bit frustrating.

1983
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 2: But the Cincinnati defense did their job. They held Central

1984
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 2: Florida out of the end zone until the final two

1985
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 2: minutes of the game. They had a couple plays that

1986
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 2: could have made this thing thirty four to three, twenty

1987
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: seven to three that they missed. They've got some things

1988
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: offensively that they have got to clean up going into

1989
01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State and then a tough five games stretch to

1990
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 2: end the season. But but Cincinnati's five and one, Cincinnati's

1991
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: three to zero in the Big Twelve, and for the

1992
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:16,080
Speaker 2: first time since joining the league, they look like a contender.

1993
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 2: I get wanting to overanalyze and to say, if this

1994
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 2: continues to happen. They're going to struggle continuing they're winning ways,

1995
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 2: and I agree with that, but I would also say

1996
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 2: this from somebody that has been doing this a long time.

1997
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 2: Winning at this level is really bleeping hard, and when

1998
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 2: you're doing it, take some time and enjoy it because

1999
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 2: it's not a sure thing. And yeah, Brendan Sorosby didn't

2000
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 2: have his best game on Saturday, and he's gonna have

2001
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: to play better, if not against Oklahoma State, definitely against

2002
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 2: Baylor and against you Utah and against BYU and against

2003
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 2: TCU and against Arizona. Like he's gonna have to prove

2004
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 2: it over those final weeks where last year he went

2005
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 2: ice cold down the stretch and Cincinnati lost five in

2006
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 2: a row. He's gonna have to prove it. But it's

2007
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 2: a lot more fun to be dissecting a win than

2008
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 2: it is to be dissecting a loss.

2009
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 4: Sean, Yeah, I think the nice thing about this team, Chad,

2010
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 4: is that this year, obviously they're far from perfect, they're

2011
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,520
Speaker 4: far from elite, but compared to the previous two years,

2012
02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 4: they feel a lot more complete in every aspect of

2013
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 4: the game. You know, I heard Tony and Dan Horror

2014
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 4: talking off the air about how much more complete they

2015
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 4: look on special teams, and that was something you and

2016
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:52,640
Speaker 4: I were just talking about in the fickle era. Well

2017
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 4: right now on special teams, U see looks a lot

2018
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 4: better this year than they did last year. And I

2019
02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 4: think that was also a huge key to Saturday's win

2020
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:04,880
Speaker 4: because that helps set up your defense for success, and

2021
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,920
Speaker 4: if your defense can play well well, subsequently it helps

2022
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:11,800
Speaker 4: your offense. It's just a revolving door of everybody helping everybody.

2023
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, this time around, it feels like a much

2024
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 4: different team than in previous years. It's good to come

2025
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 4: off of a win. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. It's not

2026
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:23,520
Speaker 4: always going to be. You know, games don't get played

2027
02:02:23,560 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 4: on paper. They get played on the field, something I've

2028
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 4: heard a million times. You know, you can look and

2029
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 4: you can say, yeah, well you see it doesn't have

2030
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 4: a great quarterback or whatever. You can say this about them,

2031
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:36,000
Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter come game time. It's about execution

2032
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 4: and you see got it done on Saturday. That's all

2033
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 4: that matters. Yeah, they have some flaws, like at cornerback.

2034
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 4: They're still struggling at the corner position. They don't have

2035
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 4: a lot of depth there, and yeah, the run game

2036
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 4: got shut down. But again, I think that's more of

2037
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 4: a credit to UCFS defense stepping up and playing really well,

2038
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 4: because I thought they did a great job of shutting

2039
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 4: down the run lanes for uc and forcing them to

2040
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 4: pass the ball and just forcing him to be kind

2041
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 4: of a one dimensional offense.

2042
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Speaker 2: But obviously it wasn't enough.

2043
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, you got to give credit to them, because

2044
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 4: that UCF team, well, I think they're three and three,

2045
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're still a good football team.

2046
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 2: You got to put Yeah, I don't know that they're

2047
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 2: good per se well in part because I think they're

2048
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 2: they don't have enough pop on offense right to be good.

2049
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:25,760
Speaker 2: But they're dangerous and they've done this to a lot

2050
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 2: of teams where they just kind of drag you down

2051
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 2: into the mud. Uh And they and they hope that

2052
02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 2: they can hit a couple of plays and and and

2053
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 2: make things interesting. Cincinnati kept them from doing that. They

2054
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 2: didn't have really any big explosive runs, which is kind

2055
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 2: of the backbone of their offense. I know, people got

2056
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 2: kind of upset watching their quarterback run around. He got

2057
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 2: popped a lot though, by the way, that's another thing

2058
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 2: to talk about. Rocked him at the start of the second.

2059
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 4: You quarterback, and Tony and Dan talked about that on

2060
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 4: the broadcast of just how exhausted he looked. I think

2061
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:02,480
Speaker 4: Tony made the comment about, you know, he's never seen

2062
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 4: a quarterback that tired, oh in a long time. And

2063
02:04:06,280 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 4: I think that's a huge credit to UC's defense getting home.

2064
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 4: And yeah, they didn't they didn't tackle him all the time.

2065
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 4: I felt like they were missing quite a few tackles themselves. Yeah,

2066
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 4: but nonetheless, they were absolutely having an effect on the

2067
02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:20,919
Speaker 4: quarterback play for UCF.

2068
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take a break. We'll talk to

2069
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 2: MO live from from Twin Peaks right after this. Closing

2070
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 2: out this episode of Since the three sixty on Sincinnati's

2071
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 2: ESPN thirteen.

2072
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Speaker 27: Thirty sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station.

2073
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Speaker 27: It's time for Since the three sixty Quick Hits.

2074
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Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty. All right, here we go. Let's

2075
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 2: let's close this thing out with Mo Egger live from

2076
02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks and MO Radio is supposed to be fun.

2077
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: I have I have not had much fun of late.

2078
02:04:59,480 --> 02:04:59,520
Speaker 16: U.

2079
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Speaker 13: That makes two of us. Uh, this has been a

2080
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 13: tough week. Was made even more difficult by the news

2081
02:05:05,920 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 13: we found out this morning. You've talked about him extensively.

2082
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 13: I am among the many who are heartbroken to find

2083
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 13: out about Jim Kelly's passing, and uh, I uh, we're

2084
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 13: obviously going to talk extensively about him. For those who

2085
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 13: don't know, we're at Twin Peaks in Westchester, the home

2086
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 13: of the Tony and MO Football Show. I don't know

2087
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,880
Speaker 13: what we'll be calling the Tony and Mo Football Show

2088
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 13: moving forward.

2089
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 17: I do know that James Rapeene will be here.

2090
02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:38,120
Speaker 13: James knew Jim well, and we're going to start by

2091
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 13: talking about Jim today.

2092
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 17: As one might expect.

2093
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully you hold yourself better than hold yourself together better

2094
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 2: than I did in noon, because I did not know.

2095
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 17: I heard that, yeah, and I didn't this morning.

2096
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 2: I cried all morning.

2097
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 17: In an age where it.

2098
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 13: Is increasingly difficult to find people who are true gentleman,

2099
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 13: Jim really stood out for being one. And you know,

2100
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 13: I said this to somebody when I stopped by ken

2101
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 13: Wood today. There's like a small collection of people in

2102
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,800
Speaker 13: this business that I've never I've literally never heard anyone

2103
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 13: say a negative thing about and that's a small group.

2104
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 17: Jim Kelly was in that group, and for that word gentleman,

2105
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 17: that's what he was.

2106
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 13: More than anything else football broadcasting. He was a family man,

2107
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 13: but just a true gentleman right down to the very end.

2108
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,839
Speaker 13: And boy, there just aren't many people like him anymore

2109
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,000
Speaker 13: at oh So maybe that's to me what makes his

2110
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 13: loss even more profound.

2111
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 2: For short, Bengals can't get it done. But I didn't

2112
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:55,879
Speaker 2: walk away from that game with a lot of bad feelings.

2113
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 35: MO.

2114
02:06:56,160 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just in a contrast of the way the

2115
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 2: last three games felt. But I walked away from that

2116
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,440
Speaker 2: one going there's some winnable games here in this four

2117
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 2: game stretch coming up.

2118
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Speaker 17: I viewed yesterday's game as a preseason game.

2119
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 13: The offense, learn the offense, get on the same page

2120
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 13: with your guys, get some game reps with the dudes

2121
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 13: you're going to be thrown to. They were gonna have

2122
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 13: to play a perfect game. They were gonna have to

2123
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 13: get a Green Bay team that made a bunch of mistakes.

2124
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 13: Maybe early on you thought that the first pick that

2125
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 13: Gino stonehauled in was going to be the start of that.

2126
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 13: I viewed yesterday as just planned some seeds for success

2127
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 13: later on offensively, and I think they did that.

2128
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 28: I know.

2129
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 17: It's not moral victory, right, It's not. It's just it's.

2130
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 13: Understanding the circumstances the Bengals are in and understanding that

2131
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 13: they're trying to make the most of them. And I

2132
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:50,960
Speaker 13: do believe they planted the seeds for an offense that

2133
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 13: can certainly be more functional than it has been.

2134
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 21: Now.

2135
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 13: I don't think that people, or I believe that people

2136
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 13: don't necessarily view the Pittsburgh Steelers as the challenge that

2137
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:04,400
Speaker 13: they should be, if that makes sense.

2138
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 17: But yeah, I.

2139
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 13: Walked away from yesterday's game feeling like that was a

2140
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:12,920
Speaker 13: successful preseason effort for Joe Flacco in the Bengals offense.

2141
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 2: Here's the one thing that I really felt like was

2142
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 2: going to be the case going in, and it played out,

2143
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 2: and it is what eases my mind a little bit.

2144
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco was going to understand the assignment, and that

2145
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 2: assignment is get the ball to Jamar Chase.

2146
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 13: You know, it's more difficult, I guess than he made

2147
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:32,840
Speaker 13: it look. But that was my big thing about Joe

2148
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,839
Speaker 13: Flacco last week. Sure he's immobile. Sure, maybe the marriage

2149
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:39,160
Speaker 13: of an immobile quarterback and an offensive line that's not

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Speaker 13: very good isn't the most ideal. But when he goes

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Speaker 13: back to throw, if Jamar Chase is open, will he

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Speaker 13: throw him the football? And the answer for Jake Browning

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Speaker 13: was no. The answer for Joe Flacco was yes. I

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Speaker 13: thought Jamar Chase played a great game yesterday, but his

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Speaker 13: quarterback gave him a chance and that wasn't happening before.

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Speaker 13: By the way, I know quickly to switch gears on you. Okay,

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Speaker 13: I know UC football is back. You know how I

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Speaker 13: know UC football is back. How's that when you have

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Speaker 13: to remind people to enjoy winning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Winnig, That's that's what I know.

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Speaker 13: Because you know, when I think of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: one season, I think I'm the only person who enjoyed it.

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Speaker 13: I enjoyed it because I had a blast. And what

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Speaker 13: I because all I heard that style points.

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Speaker 17: They're not winning by enough.

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Speaker 13: It's a it's a win on the scoreboard, but it

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Speaker 13: doesn't feel like one. And I'm like, pile, I don't

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Speaker 13: know what alternate reality you exist in. This is a

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Speaker 13: lot of fun. So look, man, that that game on

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Speaker 13: Saturday was weird. But when we're having to remind people

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Speaker 13: that it's okay to be happy, about the fact that

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Speaker 13: they won. That's when I know the Bearcats are back, baby.

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Speaker 2: We It's amazing what a difference being bad at special

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Speaker 2: teams and being good at special teams can create, Like

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Speaker 2: the the ability to pin teams back inside their own

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Speaker 2: fifteen regularly and make field goals and good on punt

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Speaker 2: and kick coverage and maybe get a return here and there. Like,

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Speaker 2: it's incredible the difference that makes in the outcome of games.

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Speaker 13: Talked about it with Dan in the postgame show on Saturday.

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Speaker 13: It was my biggest takeaway. By the way, Max Fletcher

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Speaker 13: Big twelve Special Teams Player of the Week, how many

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Speaker 13: times this offseason that I bring that.

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Speaker 2: Up to you? Almost special teams the special.

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Speaker 13: Teams play had to be better, and it was atrocious

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Speaker 13: last season. It was just and look, that's that's not

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Speaker 13: to pile on Carrie Collins, who was a beloved figure

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Speaker 13: in this town, but his special teams units last year

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Speaker 13: were atrocious. They could not win games in the margins.

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Speaker 13: And so to me, it's the main reason why they

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Speaker 13: won the game, and frankly the main reason why the

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Speaker 13: game was never really in doubt. That's it's to me

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Speaker 13: that the sign of a well coached team is good

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Speaker 13: special teams right right to me, Like the sign of

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Speaker 13: a well coached football team is one where every special

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Speaker 13: teams unit.

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Speaker 17: Is effective and can be weaponized. And I think that's

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Speaker 17: the case.

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Speaker 2: We've already moved from uh are they gonna fire Scott Sadderfield?

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Speaker 2: To is somebody gonna hire Scott Satderfield away?

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Speaker 17: Can I give you? Can I give you quickly?

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Speaker 2: My favorite moment from Saturday, yes ten seconds.

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Speaker 13: When the opening coin toss was taking place and the

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Speaker 13: referee referred to Central Florida.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Mit Chef's kiss, Middle Florida Institute of Hospitality.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it. Mouth's up next? Since I USB

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Speaker 2: at fifteen thirty uc.

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Speaker 24: KY Cincinnati, make us the number one preset on your

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Speaker 24: car radio and on the free knew It Improved, iHeartRadio

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Speaker 24: app Free never sounded so good.

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Speaker 27: ESPN fifteen thirty Man Trouble and