WEBVTT - Chick Ludwig Sports Talk -- 11/15/25

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<v Speaker 1>Six oh seven in the Queens City of Cincinnati, Chick

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<v Speaker 1>Ludwig seven hundred w l W. This is Sports Talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McMahon is tonight's producer. We are going all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to nine o'clock tonight, and we're coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gates strong. Our first guest is a gentleman who

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<v Speaker 1>wears three hats. He's the director of sports operations right

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<v Speaker 1>here at iHeartMedia Cincinnati. He's the longtime host pregame and

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<v Speaker 1>postgame for Reds on radio. And he happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>our very own spiritual leader. He's the goat. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only dave Yady arm Brewster. Yet, how are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good, Chick, pretty good here in beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we get into some of the topics we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about. First off, you being mister ubiquitous,

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<v Speaker 1>could you tell us about your travel itinerary here the

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<v Speaker 1>last what twenty four to forty eight hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were in beautiful Iowa City, Iowa, yesterday for

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<v Speaker 2>the Xavier Iowa game, and I pulled in at I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know two am. Hang back on the plane this

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<v Speaker 2>say afternoon to Pittsburgh, so there and then home tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>sometime about eight o'clock. We'll start all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we will. And things are a little bit somber

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<v Speaker 1>around here following UCS thirty to twenty four loss to

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Wildcats today. But yeah, brutal, just brutal. The

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<v Speaker 1>dreams of Dallas are fading quickly. But anyway, yd with

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<v Speaker 1>all the college football, hey alternative programming, it's always a

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<v Speaker 1>great time to talk Cincinnati Reds baseball, And looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this starting rotation, it is deep, it is strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>it appears that Nick Krawl and the powers that beat

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to move anybody. They want to hoard all

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<v Speaker 1>these great arms.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that. I don't know that they won't end

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<v Speaker 2>up trading somebody. I mean, I think the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do is you know, oh yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get rid of this guy. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The all of talk was Hunter Green because he's got

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<v Speaker 2>such a team friendly contract and he could probably bring

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<v Speaker 2>the most of anybody. I see both sides of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would personally try to go get some offense. But boy,

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<v Speaker 2>with the way people get hurt during the baseball season.

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<v Speaker 2>You need depth in your starting rotation. And even though

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<v Speaker 2>he seems to get hurt every year, it's nice they

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<v Speaker 2>have Hunter Greens starting every fifth day.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so true when you look back on this season,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't it count for something that they made the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>and lost to the eventual world champion Los Angeles Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, I really did. I do think it's something.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you play to make the postseason, so you

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<v Speaker 2>go in and they get a little taste of the postseason.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these guys have never been there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that only helps for years to come. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think during the course of the year, you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of saw what Terry Francona is all about, how he

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<v Speaker 2>manipulates guys around field what he wants from his players,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that only helps as they go into

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<v Speaker 2>spring training next year. I still think they have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of questions Marks Chick, I mean, the bullpen is now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with Pegan leaving, with Nick Martinez leaving, Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Barlow leaving, they have some holes in that bullpen that

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<v Speaker 2>they need to fill. I'm not the biggest fan of

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<v Speaker 2>BELLI David Cruz still playing shortstop, but right now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the plan. And maybe that's because they don't have anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else or they can't go out and find somebody else.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. I mean they have, they still have problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to come into twenty six with maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>a less than you had in one yenda twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>because again, Martinez and Pagan were big parts of this

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<v Speaker 2>team's bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt. And when you look at the starting rotation

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<v Speaker 1>with Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott, Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer

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<v Speaker 1>tossing Chase Burns there and possibly a Rep. Louder Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what would this team have looked like if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>missing Hunter Green for more than two months?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I agree, I agree, he is a difference maker.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, well, they always say the best

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<v Speaker 2>ability is availability, no doubt, And if you can't count

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<v Speaker 2>on a guy, I mean, I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 2>go forward. It's tough. I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't help some injuries, but man, I want guys

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<v Speaker 2>that have gone out there and starting thirty two thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three games. That's what they need. And you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Green that just hasn't happened again. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got the stuff, There's no question about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they add Brandon Williamson here and Juli and Aggie

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<v Speaker 1>are they mentioned Chase Patty were still waiting for him

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<v Speaker 1>to come on. So, like you are, so right, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of question marks. One of the pluses here, Wow

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<v Speaker 1>the emergence here of Connor Phillips, and I've alway he's

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<v Speaker 1>been a Tony Santion fan. If they can't acquire a

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<v Speaker 1>closer man, Tony Santion or a grand ass Craft might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to fill in that role. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with that. I mean, I'd rather I want

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<v Speaker 2>I mean and Santion close to handful of games, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to have somebody with a little more experience

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<v Speaker 2>than that. But Tony Santion is unshakable as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, So I wouldn't mind him going out there

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<v Speaker 2>and close and probably not pitching in as many games

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<v Speaker 2>as he did last year, because boy, by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, I'm sure he was wore out. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he pitched a lot, but I do like him closing games.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at the times he did it, he did

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. So you know, maybe I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little more experienced. But if you go into

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<v Speaker 2>the season and that's who you have Tony Santion, I

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<v Speaker 2>can live with that. You know, that's fine. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens. And I know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anybody really likes fullpens by committee, even though

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<v Speaker 2>they might say it at I think at some point

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<v Speaker 2>you just have a guy and he's your guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they did with Emilia Pagon last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>they stuck with him and they did a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, maybe they make Tony Santy on that

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<v Speaker 2>guy in spring. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And the emergence of Connor Phillips, you just hope that

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<v Speaker 1>he can really continue where he let off because he

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<v Speaker 1>was just awesome at the end of last season.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, there's no question. And I also think, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your good reports of what RHT Ladder has

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<v Speaker 2>done in the Arizona Fall League. I guess he was

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<v Speaker 2>in four appearances and pitched pretty well. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>bodes well for this team too. I just think it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's depth. It's depth. It's more depth, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>some good arms and and you know, you get in

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<v Speaker 2>there and pitch well and you look at the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>They here, their starting rotation is like twelve people deep.

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<v Speaker 2>They just keep bringing guys up and up, and you

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<v Speaker 2>need that. So I again, I liked. I liked what

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<v Speaker 2>they have in the arms right now. I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point it's can you score.

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<v Speaker 1>Some runs, no doubt. And listening to Tito Francone and

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<v Speaker 1>it was great that he was mentioned. Gosha I'll finished

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<v Speaker 1>second for the Manager of the Year award. That was

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<v Speaker 1>that just terrific. He wants more depth on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to help out a guy like a TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Friedel in center field where he doesn't have to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they can rest him every once in a while. And

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<v Speaker 1>possibly Elie de la Cruz. It looks like they're don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to move him out of shortstop, so get him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more rest hopefully and maybe the errors

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<v Speaker 1>will subside.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, I mean, he can't go play one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty two games. He looked tired. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you be agm a couple of times a week

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<v Speaker 2>and get him some rest, maybe that will cut down

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<v Speaker 2>on the years. You know, we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>His offensive numbers really have to pick up I think

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<v Speaker 2>next year, and I think this team's overall. We've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot and that's the power numbers. You better

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<v Speaker 2>start hitting some home runs. You're playing in a bandbox

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<v Speaker 2>in great American ballpark. Uh, you know, you just got

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<v Speaker 2>to score more runs and put the ball out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ballpark a little more too. And I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that falls on Ellie. I mean, he's if

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<v Speaker 2>you're the star of this team, I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>a little more power from you.

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<v Speaker 1>This coming week at Middletown High School, Kyle Schwarber's coming

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<v Speaker 1>back for a big shin dig at the high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I I dream of having the guy in Cincinnati Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Ridge uniform. What would it mean? I know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably far fetched, you'd but what would The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I could kind of compare it to is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>would be the signing of a Ken Griffy junior. The

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<v Speaker 1>excitement that that would degenerate among the fan base. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be great to have him, no doubt about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not going to increase the role much. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like from last year. So Kyle Schwarber is you

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<v Speaker 2>know everything I'm reading he's looking at you know, four years,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty million. I'm not sure this team

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<v Speaker 2>can do that. Now, if you're if you think you're

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<v Speaker 2>close enough that you actually have a chance to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the World Series and you can sign a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a two year deal with him and pay him

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of money, I'm okay with that, But

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<v Speaker 2>they need more than one person. Check. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>have him. I would love to have yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>number one, he'd have to be the DH and then

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<v Speaker 2>we got a team full of dhs. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>see him coming here. I hope, I'm shocked. I hope,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope come to Winter meetings and all that. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, the big signing is Kyle Schwerber comes

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<v Speaker 2>back to Cincinnati. That would be awesome, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 2>hitting here and his ballpark. He could he'll repeat what

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<v Speaker 2>he did this year with the Phillies. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think there's going to be a bidding war on that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and ultimately I bet he stays in Philadelphia. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, if we could, could we take a trip around

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup here. You know, your catcher is pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>set here with Tyler Stevenson and Jose Travino. And yes

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<v Speaker 1>they did add Ben Arvett from LA for some depth purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking at first base, and really it's the elephant

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, is it South Stewart or Spencer Steer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Spencer Steer is well runner up in Gold Gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Steer can really play the position. Spencer Steer's power

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are just okay, so it can South Stewart add

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<v Speaker 2>more of that because that's really the only place he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to play unless he phs and

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Steer, So you might lose a little bit at

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<v Speaker 2>first base, Okay, if he can hit more home runs,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good with it. Spencer Steer can play left field

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<v Speaker 2>and really not miss a beat, I think, and Terry

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<v Speaker 2>Franccona likes guys that can move around, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Steeter can play multiple positions. I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 2>him at first base, but I think with the team

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<v Speaker 2>needing offense, I think you're moving where you have to moving.

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<v Speaker 2>If that means that South Stewart's going to pop the

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<v Speaker 2>ball out of the ballpark as he plays first base, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all hoping that Matt McClain can rebound here at

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<v Speaker 1>second base, see better.

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<v Speaker 2>They need him, they need him to play better or

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<v Speaker 2>down your offensively. I'll give him, you know, I'll give

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<v Speaker 2>him partially because of the shoulder, But the guy had

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<v Speaker 2>over five hundred at bats at some point. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that's not an excuse anymore. So we you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, let's see what happens. But it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>nice to have him there hitting like he was before.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you talk about and McLain defensively is fine, not great. Fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you talk about Ellie again needs to have more

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<v Speaker 2>power and his defense has to improve at least marginally.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to get a little bit better. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 2>then you go to to Brian Hayes, great great defender,

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Glove winner, Kenny hit enough out of power position

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<v Speaker 2>this team. I know why they went out and got

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<v Speaker 2>him because you know, you play some defense. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to score a lot of runs. You played defense

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<v Speaker 2>to back up some good pitching. And it did help

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<v Speaker 2>him get into the postseason. But Cabrian Hayes is what

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<v Speaker 2>he is. He's not going to be the greatest hitter

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. Book boy, can he play defense and

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<v Speaker 2>especially with Elie next to him. That does help.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly does. And you know a guy like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's guys like without positions, kind of like a Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>Lux who can DH. But man, what an adventure out

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<v Speaker 1>in left field and even a second base. So but

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<v Speaker 1>but a solid veteran that you'd love to have around.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, there's no question about him. But you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>right about defensively. I mean there's some deficiencies there, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no question about that. But I like him, like having

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<v Speaker 2>him in the lineup. And again he's a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>with DH, he's a leader in the clubhouse, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's good to have guys like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you know, let's talk about the outfield a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit because Marte is going to play right field and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he proved that he can and hit boy

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<v Speaker 2>when they moved him off third base to right field.

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<v Speaker 2>Did his offense come around? So hopefully that continues going

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<v Speaker 2>into the new year.

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<v Speaker 4>TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Friedel's in center. I think the wear and pay on

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<v Speaker 2>center field might take a toll on him a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit because he plays a lot again, not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of power there, A good guy to have I

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<v Speaker 2>like to have him, and then the question mark is

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do now in left field? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer's year? You know, because you don't have Austin Hayes anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you go out and try to get another bat?

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<v Speaker 2>Can this team afford to hit? You know, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Schwarber, but can this team afford a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>you know is going to hit thirty home rounds a year?

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. I mean that's something that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure the front office discussing right now. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer Steer doesn't hit a whole lot of home runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Benson is an extra.

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<v Speaker 1>Outfielder, that's what he Yeah, I was going to mention

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<v Speaker 1>his name, you know, left field, right field, he's played,

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<v Speaker 1>he played some center. Uh, he's been up and down. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking for consistency out of Uh. The players love

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<v Speaker 1>him and uh we wish he was that power guy

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<v Speaker 1>that could that could help this club.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think he is. I think they got

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<v Speaker 2>to go outside and find somebody else that can be

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<v Speaker 2>that power guy. Again, it's just it's limited payroll. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard man with when you get the you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>teams offering these guys so much money. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Reds have the resources to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, if they if they think they are close where

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<v Speaker 2>they can go deep into the playoffs in the World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe you take a chance. Maybe you spend the money,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got to spend it correctly, because we've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've seen him spend money before and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just not well spent. Jam Or Candelario's of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mike Mustachus's of the world just didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, let's see what happens during these winter

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<v Speaker 2>meetings and up till you know, opening day in late March.

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<v Speaker 1>Yid, we're going to take that twenty one million that

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<v Speaker 1>Martinez Scott has a down payment for Kylish Warber.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm in. I'm more than happy to take that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be great to have that dude, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And he he's just a good baseball player and a

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<v Speaker 2>good guy to have on your team.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and then pack in the stadium, man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>got to count for something.

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<v Speaker 2>To the stadium for a while. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to you'll have a shorter effect like

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<v Speaker 2>you did the Griffy effect, you know, for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But you better win there. You know they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to show up if if you keep losing games, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not you know, it's it's it's there's only so many

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<v Speaker 2>guys like show hey o'tani where you know, if he plays,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to pack the joint. Schreber might be one

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<v Speaker 2>of those, you know, if he gets off to a

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<v Speaker 2>good start and hit some bombs early in the season,

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<v Speaker 2>if the red skinning. So, yeah, there is there is

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<v Speaker 2>something to that. There's no question. I remember when Griffy

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<v Speaker 2>came to tam Boy. Yeah, that place was packed those

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of seasons just to see a guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to the Hall of Fame. So maybe maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>happens with shorebur as well. If they get him, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big giant if.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we saw Dave Roberts make every right move the

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<v Speaker 1>last two nights of the of the World Series, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that Tito Francona can get touched by an

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<v Speaker 1>angel this year like Dave Roberts was. I'm still waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for pot Has crashing into Key k Hernandez for the

0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.760
<v Speaker 1>ball to pop loose and fall on the floor in

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<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays win, but just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that, But you know what, two

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<v Speaker 2>teams aside, that was an incredible world series to watch

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<v Speaker 2>it really, it was a fun world series.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly was. And the Reds they are at least

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<v Speaker 1>fun and interesting and already looking forward to next season.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I am too. I'm pumped. I'm pumped for the

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<v Speaker 2>first spring training is a game in Goodyear, Arizona on

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<v Speaker 2>February twenty first against those dreadic Cleveland Guardians.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, is there a chance you can bring

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<v Speaker 1>home a victory tomorrow in Pittsburgh on this watershed.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna win tomorrow. You just watch. They're gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the defense has to play a little better, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But boy did Aaron Rodgers look like he was about

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<v Speaker 2>sixty years old last week. Yes, so if they can

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<v Speaker 2>continue that, you know, if they can put the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on him, they're gonna come home with a victory. And

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, you still got some hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't win. I mean it's must win tomorrow. Check one,

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<v Speaker 2>must win? Did you fall the three and seven?

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<v Speaker 1>You're cooked? Absolutely? Yid always a pleasure, Thanks so much

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<v Speaker 1>for taking time out to join us tonight. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it, sir, Talk to you lator, Chick.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That is Devit Armbrus, who Director of Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Operations iHeartMedia Cincinnati and longtime host what four decades pregame

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<v Speaker 1>and postgame on reds on radio. And this is Chick

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<v Speaker 1>Ludwig Sports Talk. After the bottom of the hour news

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break down the Bengals victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>WLW airwaves. If we welcome in now our good friend,

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Bengals legend, jim Breech, Jimmy, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Check?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic? And once upon a time I asked a Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>running back, Hey, is this a water shed game? And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, yeah, man, it's gonna be hot out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to drink a lot of water.

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<v Speaker 4>But tomorrow maybe maybe he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was right, that's exactly right. I think it was even

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<v Speaker 1>a preseason game. But anyway, it truly is a watershed

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<v Speaker 1>game tomorrow, Jimmy with the Steelers at five and four

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<v Speaker 1>or the Bengals that's three and six. A victory draws

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals within one game of the division lead. Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a must win.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it actually is. Uh you know, but when you

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<v Speaker 6>look at when you look at it, you know, if

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<v Speaker 6>you they really we've got to get the defense together right,

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<v Speaker 6>just get that defense playing, slowing teams down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>But yes, I mean you look at the division We're

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<v Speaker 6>right there. Just makes makes something. The positive happened on

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 6>the defensive side of the ball. Continue with the craziness

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<v Speaker 6>the offense is playing. It's Uh, it's pretty amazing how

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<v Speaker 6>well the offense is playing with Joe Flacco, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>really moving the ball easily.

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<v Speaker 1>You are absolutely right, and just looking at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, Uh, he's been phenomenal. And then even against

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh in his career, twelve victories, thirty touchdown passes, and

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:07.399
<v Speaker 1>five fourth quarter comebacks. So Joe Flacco, what a blessing

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy has been for the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow being down, and he's done everything he possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>do to help this team win.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 6>And think about those numbers you just talked about earlier

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<v Speaker 6>in his career when it was Baltimore Pittsburgh. Those are

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<v Speaker 6>two of the best defenses in football in those games

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<v Speaker 6>were so physical, and yet he was putting up great

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<v Speaker 6>numbers even then.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right. And what a gamer. The guy is

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<v Speaker 1>forty years old in playing at such a high level

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly helps to have Wow his weapons. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he's down one here with Sama J. P Ryan being out,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you can have man your two wide receivers

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<v Speaker 1>in Jamar Chase and t Higgins and others with your

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends, he's he's gonna beloving this offense.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think what wasn't After the first Pittsburgh game,

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 6>he was talking to his brothers or something or his

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 6>family and he was laughing about throwing to those guys

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<v Speaker 6>and the catches they made and how easy it was.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, I've got to imagine I can't think of

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<v Speaker 6>a time. Maybe when he threw to Steve Smith, but

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<v Speaker 6>that was toward the end of Steve Smith's career. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if he's ever played with two guys in

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<v Speaker 6>the prime of their career in an offense. You know

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<v Speaker 6>that's capable of, you know, getting them the ball on

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<v Speaker 6>the stamore on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, and you know, looking at the injury report,

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<v Speaker 1>And we had Debuty arm Brewster on at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the show and he said, the Bengals are gonna win.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got me ready to run through a wall here

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<v Speaker 1>and dare I say with with snot bubbles? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the Bengals win tomorrow. Yeah, Burrow, Jermaine Burton,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hendrickson, Shamar Stewart placed on IR he's out for

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<v Speaker 1>four games, and Sama jp Ryan being down. So you

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<v Speaker 1>add all that up. Your two starting defensive ends are out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bengals win. Would that be just crazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would be nice.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be nice. But what I noticed there weren't

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<v Speaker 6>any offensive linemen on there, and they're actually playing pretty well,

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 6>and there's two young guys up front on the two

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 6>guards are actually playing pretty well right now, So that's

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<v Speaker 6>really encouraging. On the off the side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>I liked some part of what they did against the

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<v Speaker 6>Bears late. They were putting a lot of pressure on

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<v Speaker 6>and Caleb Williams there at the end of the game

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<v Speaker 6>and then he escaped and made that run and then

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<v Speaker 6>the throw you know, down the middle of the field,

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<v Speaker 6>But they were putting some pressure on him. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>just put a little bit try and get some pressure.

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<v Speaker 6>You rather way to get pressure. If you're not getting

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<v Speaker 6>it normally, you got probably manufacture some ways. And then

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 6>these guys have to cover their butts off. NODJ Turner's

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<v Speaker 6>doing it. Yes, they turned it last time against DK

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 6>metcalf Man. He just shut him down. If we can

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<v Speaker 6>get a couple other guys doing similar type things, uh

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 6>dives has a chance to do pretty well on the

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<v Speaker 6>depth chart.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like Josh fig Newton has taken over uh

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the corners over Cam Taylor Britt. Who, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Cam Taylor Britt and I thought Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl potential and yet the inconsistency is striking. So Geno Stone,

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Battle your safeties, DJ Turner, Josh Newton, h Dax

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Hill as your your nickel corner. These guys have to

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<v Speaker 1>step forward, and you hope that Joseph Osai and Gosh

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Miles Murphy, BJ Hill, TJ. Slayton could get some kind

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of pressure on on uh On, the Steelers quarterback who

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>is starting to show his age big.

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<v Speaker 6>Time at times. He certainly didn't the last time the

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 6>Bengals played him. So we'll see what happens this time.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully what we saw the last couple of games is

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 6>more like what we see tomorrow. So you know, it's

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 6>interesting with Cam Taylor Brett. The potential is still there,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think he's lost confidence because it's he has

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 6>sets up and down plays. I mean it's not even games,

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 6>it's from play to play and play a great play

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 6>and then turn around and just completely look like he's

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 6>completely lost on the play, on the covering of guy.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know, you wonder you just don't know what's

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<v Speaker 6>going on, but confidence so often is a huge thing

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 6>when it comes to, you know, anything in general, but

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 6>in sports in particular. If you lose a little bit

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 6>of confidence and you're playing against world class athletes, as

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 6>doesn't go well together.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right. Jim Breech is with us. We'll be together

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana, from five

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty to eight thirty. Come on out, and if you

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>can't make it, I hope you'll listen on Cincinnati's ESPN

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen thirty and you'll call in. But it's not that

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>tough to get there tomorrow, Jim. Just enter Indiana, take

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<v Speaker 1>exit sixteen toward US fifty and it's the Greendale Lawrenceburg,

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<v Speaker 1>Aurora exit.

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<v Speaker 6>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Ay check, Yes, sir.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 6>You know what else they could do tomorrow? They could tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, wouldn't that be nice?

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 6>They could tackle. Yes, we're going to be tackling some wings.

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 6>They need to be tackling some ball carriers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And gosh, everybody's piling on

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals, including all kinds of national celebrities, saying that

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals played their best defensive game last week. Because

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it was a bye But all jokes aside, the defense

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>can step forward here and show some together with this offense,

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe they can pull off a victory tomorrow and really

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>give this the franchise, the city, the region some hope

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>going forward to get the four and six and one

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>game away from the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Ageah, you can only play the game in front

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 6>of you, right, and there's no way you can't get

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 6>up for a Pittsburgh Steeler game, So they'll be ready

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 6>hostile environment. It's got of fun going in those kinds

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>of environments, so it makes you stick together as a team.

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 6>So I just hope the defense offense really come together

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 6>and play with their exceptional games.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>And Jim, we all know how critical special teams are.

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>And I know you're awfully proud of Evan McPherson's bounce

0:28:57.600 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>back season this year. Hunter, Ryan Rico, Man, get it

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>inside the twenty, don't keep kicking it into the end

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>zone and bringing that ball out. So in Charlie Jones

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>showing some gosh some chucky sizzle there, which yeas he's

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>pretty good that, yes he is. And I remember Tremaine

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Mac talking about following the color and the Bengals helmets

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>when he's running back kicks and uh just strange that way.

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, Charlie Jones has a knack for for being

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>able to get get through openings. And I don't like

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it when he runs totally across the field. But man,

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>hit it up in there and uh with your speed

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and get after it.

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, you know, it's about going up the field,

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, as well as like you go east and

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 6>west and Nafali not going to get very far. I

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 6>don't care who, maybe Barry Sanders, But apart from that,

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 6>it's hard to do. And Charlie does a good job

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 6>of that. And you know, you keep hitting it up

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 6>there f I a little crease and pop it and

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, break a tackle or two and you got

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 6>a chance to although the one he scored on I

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 6>don't know if he even got touched. Yeah, they did

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 6>such a great job of blocking well. And then you

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 6>gotta do the same on the other side. You got

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 6>to you gotta cover the kicks, keep them. If you

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 6>can keep them inside the thirty, you know, close to

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 6>twenty five, then you can create some you know, additional

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 6>yardage on your apart make them go farther for touchdowns

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 6>and field goals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, zat Taylor talked about the DBS being one step

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<v Speaker 1>away or that, you know, the defenders, and man, we

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>all know Jim. One step in the National Football League

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>might as well be a mile. Yeah, that's how good

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.239
<v Speaker 1>these are. It's yeah, that's how good they are.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, I don't know if he's I'm sure

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 6>he's watching. I know he's watching the same game. But

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 6>there have been so many games where guys are running

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 6>wide open. You know, i'd be I think most people

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 6>be fine if there's only a step, but they're making

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 6>a play on the ball. But too often they're not.

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 6>There's nobody around receivers, and when they do catch the ball,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 6>they have too much room to make a play. It's

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 6>hard to tackle a guy in the open field. If

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 6>you get him right when he catches the ball, it's

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 6>a lot easier to get him down. But if you're

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 6>three or four yards away from him. So yeah, I

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 6>hope we see a lot of that where guys are

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 6>only a step away or half a step, or you know,

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 6>are fighting.

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>For the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>That would be great, and keep everything in front of him.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll be all right.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>And Jim is an alum living in town. I know

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>how much this means to you and you're you're compatriots

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals to go into Pittsburgh and defeat the Steelers.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Chick anytime the team can beat any team from the

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 6>from the division, and I particularly I have a chance

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 6>to do it twice. That's just icing on the cake. Yes, sir,

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 6>love beating those teams.

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, they do that tomorrow and they'll be three and

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>oh in the division. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, change the pace from the previous few years and

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 6>just have to have a close over the last several

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 6>weeks like they have last few years.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, you mentioned Caleb Williams and the Bears have

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>never had in their long and story history a four

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand yard passer and Caleb Williams could be that guy

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this year and who launched his career the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes,

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>we're used to launching careers.

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, those guys, those unknown guys are or young guys

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 6>do well against the Bengals. Yes, over the years, it's.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 4>Not like just this year, but over many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Well, Jimmy, looking forward to tomorrow and being with

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<v Speaker 1>you and at the Greendale, Indiana Wings and Rings from

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>five thirty to eight thirty. We'll break down a Bengals

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>victory like a wrecking ball tomorrow. Don Drake Check, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us tonight. Appreciate you all right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, looking forward to im seeing it tomorrow and spend

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<v Speaker 6>a little of time talking about Bengal when.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, how sweet it will be. Thanks so much, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>from nine to midnight tonight. Well, today didn't start off

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<v Speaker 1>so well. Noon kickoff in front of an incredible crowd

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<v Speaker 1>at the Wrigley Field of College Football, Knippert Stadium. I

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<v Speaker 1>was pumped, the crowd was pumped. You see, had two

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>weeks to prepare for the Arizona Wildcats and on the

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<v Speaker 1>very first play of this game on offense, Brandon Soorsby

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>throws an interception. Do you see Bearcats lose to the

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Arizona Wildcats thirty to twenty four. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in tonight's producer, University of Cincinnati grad Sean McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can think of, Sean, is a missed opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>And what might have been for the UC Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a stinger today for sure, But by no

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 10>means is this a bad loss in the sense that

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 10>you see lost to a bad team. I mean, Arizona

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 10>is a very respectable program, very respectable team.

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>This year.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 10>They've got some pretty good wins. They had the Arizona

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 10>State win earlier this year. They also went I think

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 10>they went I'm sorry they were at home against Hawaii,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 10>but they they had a I take it back, David

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 10>lost to Iowa State as well. I thought they won

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 10>that game, but they had beat Kansas State. They went

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 10>out dominated Colorado. They went out and beat Kansas yep,

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 10>twenty four to twenty. You know that's that was a

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 10>six and three team coming into Nippert And you know,

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 10>I hope I don't think anybody was necessarily overlooking Arizona,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 10>but it kind of feels like some people maybe looking

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 10>forward to the BYU game and focusing on the Big

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 10>twelve championship.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Not that the team was per se, but you know,

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>this is a really this was a really good team.

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<v Speaker 10>Brent Brennan's got a good thing going with his program

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 10>out there for Arizona, and you know, they just they

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 10>just had the They just had UC's number today, and

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 10>Brendan Soorsby didn't have his strongest game. He was playing

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 10>on a bit of a bad angle. He got tackled

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 10>in the second half, yes, and you could see he

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 10>wass He was visibly limping throughout most of the second half.

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 10>So that kind of limits, you know, the way that

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 10>you can play the game, because a big part of

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 10>UC's offense is Brendan Sorosby being able to get outside

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 10>the pocket and run down field when there's nothing down there.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, when you limit the offense that way,

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it can hurt a lot.

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 10>And it was pretty clear that without Evan pryor without

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 10>Brendan Soorsby being able to run, that really stifled them

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 10>in the second in the second half. And it's kind

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 10>of been a problem with UC all year in the

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 10>second half is their offense has just kind of gone dormant,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 10>especially in the third quarter, especially right the third quarter. Yes, yeah,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 10>today it was the second quarter. They had zero points.

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.240
<v Speaker 10>They came out the gates, you know, struggling with an interception,

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 10>but then they came right back on the field, scored

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 10>a touchdown, tied the game up, and then from there

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 10>it was off to the races, and unfortunately Arizona just

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 10>had the better of them today. I got to give

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 10>credit to Arizona's defense. They're one of the best actually

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 10>in the country. They got a really good quarterback and

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:55.480
<v Speaker 10>Noah Fafida. They got good wide receivers, So you know,

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 10>that's that's a good team. And yeah, like you were

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 10>telling me earlier, chick hopes of Dallas fading for the

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 10>Cats quickly, it's not totally over, but you know, with

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 10>two games left in the season, it's not looking great

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 10>for you see in terms of the Big Twelve championship hopes.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 10>But I got to say being seven and three beats

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 10>the heck out of being three in eight or three

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:16.880
<v Speaker 10>and seven.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's been tough the last couple of seasons

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for the Bearcats, but you.

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 10>Know, to be back in the position that they're in

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 10>right now, I'm happy to see the programs doing well.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 10>I'm happy to see fans enjoying the excitement of this

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 10>team because I think there is a lot to celebrate

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 10>about this year's team. But doesn't make smaller and today's

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 10>loss any easier.

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the twenty fifth ranked Bearcats will no doubt drop

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the top twenty five. They are bull eligible,

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>which is a huge positive. I think the arrow is

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>pointing up with this program. I'm hoping brendan swersby sticks

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>around next year and doesn't go pro. Although the quarterback

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>class is not that great, he would definitely get drafted.

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>But I would love to see them come back and

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>just continue to see this program improve. You know, I'm

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at the Big twelve standings right now, and there

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are six teams really within a game of one another

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>with either one or two losses, and the Bearcats are

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>among them. And they will host BYU next week and

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>then go to TCU. They have to win both. It'll

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>take a miracle to get to Dallas. But hope springs eternal.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just a missed opportunity today after going up fourteen

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to seven, and then yeah, having opportunities to score they

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't able to. And then Arizona scored on their final

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>five possessions starting late second quarter.

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and another thing too, chick, and this is kind

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 10>of what killed you see today, was the fact that

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 10>they just couldn't get a stop. Their defense just couldn't

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 10>get off the field. I got to have credit to

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:57.439
<v Speaker 10>the d line I thought they held up pretty well today.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 10>They got to know Fafiita quite a bit, but when

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 10>it came to those third and long situations, they just

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 10>kept giving them up.

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 10>Their corners were just getting burned left and right. And

0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 10>a lot of that is credit to Noah Fafida as

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 10>a quarterback for Arizona, you know, because he was just

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 10>putting the ball in the right spot. His receivers were

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 10>making pretty darn good catches. So Chris Hudson was unbelievable.

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Noah Fafita twenty three of thirty one, a

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>touchdown and two hundred and ninety four yards, And there

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>was a point in the third quarter I believe where

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Sowersby had only thrown for thirty eight yards. They

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 1>were running the ball awfully well in the first half.

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>And then I gotta say this, Sean McMahon, I'm just

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>not a fan of the three three five defense of

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the UC Bearcats. Yeah, if you could push a defensive end, okay,

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>push him, crease him, and then a guard getting to

0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that outside linebacker, man, it's off to the races. And yeah,

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Wildcats were able to rush for one hundred

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and eighty one yards and passed for two ninety four

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and gash the bear catch for four hundred and seventy

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>five yards, and you see limited to one hundred and

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>fifty four yards passing. They did run for one hundred

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 1>and ninety, but most of that was in the first half.

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, they couldn't get off the field on

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>third down. You see three of twelve on third down. Yeah,

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>eight for sixteen for Arizona and they converted like their

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>last five and they nearly burned the last six minutes

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 1>off the clock.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and another thing too, chick, I think the UC

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 10>special teams had a pretty good day today. Mason Fletcher

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 10>had had a Max Fletcher rather sorry that's his Mason's

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 10>his older brother who was here. Max Fletcher had a

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 10>pretty good game. He had a punt that was down

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 10>at the one yard line and Arizona just wait ninety

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 10>nine yards. Yes, yeah, they just went the length of

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 10>the field and that's you know, that's important for them

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 10>because they want to drain the clock and or but

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 10>also you know, you see had a blocked field goal

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 10>first time since twenty twenty two they've had one of those. Yeah,

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 10>that's big and they Arizona also missed a field goal

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 10>on their prior attempt, So two straight field goals that

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 10>don't go Arizona's way.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Things are looking good for Uce early.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 10>But you know, it's just a tough football team to

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 10>go up against an Arizona, And it's just the nature

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 10>of the Big Twelve. You know, you can never overlook

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 10>any opponent that you play. Not that anybody was overlooking Arizona,

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 10>but you know, they're not in the rankings, they're not

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 10>in any playoff hunt, they're not in the Big twelve

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 10>championship hunt. You know, they're just a good football team.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.399
<v Speaker 10>And I don't think it was a bad loss again

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 10>in the sense that it was a bad team. It

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 10>was just a bad loss in the sense that you

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.919
<v Speaker 10>could have won the game had a couple of things

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 10>gone your way, had you played a little bit differently.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 10>And going back to the three three five defense chickster,

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 10>I am not. I'm not a defensive coordinator. I don't

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 10>pretend to be. I don't know x's and o's of

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 10>football quite as well as other people may. But you know,

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.839
<v Speaker 10>I missed the days of watching four down linemen. Yes

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 10>with UC under Luke Fickle and having you know, maybe

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 10>running a four two five, and then you know, I

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.719
<v Speaker 10>miss the days of having good cornerbacks too.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It just was not their day today.

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 10>And when you know, when your corners aren't holding it down,

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:18.880
<v Speaker 10>it's hard for your defensive line to do to do

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 10>their job too, when they're only rushing so many and

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 10>every time they did blitz. Noah, f Alfida just had

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 10>an answer. He just had a guy in the open

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 10>because you know, the corners for UC just kept getting beat.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He looked like a combination Kyle Kyle Murray, Kyler Murray

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and Michael Vick out there.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Noah Fafda just just fantastic. And gosh, Michael Salgado Medina

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Medina the Fueld goal kicker, after having a miss then

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a block, he busts that fifty one yarder. Yeah, with

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a buck thirty four to go he had he missed

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that you see, would have been in great field because

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>to either come down and either tie it or even

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and win it with a touchdown. So yeah,

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Salgado Medina busted that fifty one yarder and that that hurt.

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, in that environment, and you know after the day

0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 10>he was having up to that point for him to

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 10>come out and kick a fifty one yarder, I mean

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.479
<v Speaker 10>that takes guts and he had it on that kick,

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 10>So props to him, you know. It just it was

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 10>a tough football game and then Bearcats did not come

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 10>out on top, and like you said, they'll fall out

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 10>of the top twenty five. They're likely out of the

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 10>Big twelve championship race. But you know, I think there's

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 10>a lot of upside to this season. You know, if

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.240
<v Speaker 10>you think about it, there if they're one play away

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 10>from beating Nebraska, so they could still be they could

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 10>have still been seven and two had that game gone

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 10>their way. Yeah, this is a good team, it's not

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 10>a great team. You will see how much gas they

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 10>have left in the tank with two games left. For me, chickster,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 10>I'm just excited if they can make the Pop Tard

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.720
<v Speaker 10>Bowl the best bowl game outside of the college football Playoff,

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 10>I'd be thrilled with a Pop Tart bull appearance.

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, and what what we saw today was the Arizona

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats basically copying what the Utah did to him. Uh,

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>pressure and single coverage on the outside and we're coming

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>after you. So yeah, it's uh, it's a copycat football.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's all about.

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 10>And you can and you can tell you see his

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 10>offense missus Evan Pryor in the backfield too. Having Tawie

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 10>Walker is great. I love Tywie Walker. I think he's

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 10>a great running back. But I think having Evan Pryor,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.439
<v Speaker 10>as you know, kind of your speed running back kind

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 10>of it does add another limitation to your offense because

0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 10>you know with him you can you can run a

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.839
<v Speaker 10>lot more speedy based plays, whereas with Tylie Walker he's

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 10>more of a power back. So you know, just what

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 10>else can you say other than it was a tough game.

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 10>Stings to lose, but you got to gear up and

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 10>get ready for BYU next week.

0:46:58.160 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>We we don't know when that's kicking off.

0:46:59.640 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 2>Still.

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 10>I think this is strange that we're a week out

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 10>and we still don't know what time that game kicks off.

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't get that. I feel like we used to

0:47:06.560 --> 0:47:08.919
<v Speaker 1>know weeks in advance. Oh I know, and I hope

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it's uh. I hope it's a nip at night on Saturday.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And one positive here is true. Freshman Zion Johnson seven

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 1>carries forty two yards. He scored a touchdown. He had

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a long run of twenty one and he did some

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>nice things out there and showed some incredible burst and

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>along with Tywee Walker. So yes, Ion Johnson, I hope

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.239
<v Speaker 1>he sticks around, Yes, no doubt.

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 10>And it's it stinks to see too that you don't

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 10>see Joe Royer getting the ball more. But it's just

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 10>because the defenses know that if they can shut him

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 10>down again that you can add another limitation to use

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.799
<v Speaker 10>these offense through the air. But you know, Joe Royer

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 10>is a great part of the offense. It's just that

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 10>defense has figured out they got to shut him down

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 10>at all costs, because if you don't, it's going to

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:57.280
<v Speaker 10>be a problem.

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>One catch for eight yards, I don't care if you've

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>got to throw it tight end screen. Get the ball

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to this guy, Get it to the Elderman to our

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>fellow Elder, Gred And speaking of Elder, as bad as

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we are bumming about the UC Bearcats, we are still

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>riding high after a incredible what was it thirty two

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty two thirty last night? Elder overcoming a twenty three

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 1>to nothing deficit to the awesome Princeton Vikings last night,

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and how Elder pulled that game out in front of

0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>that crowd at the pit. I mean, people were talking

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>about the Molar game this year being the greatest game

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they had seen in a long time. This topped it

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>last night. I think it did. I think it did.

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 10>I didn't think it was possible. But in a playoff scenario,

0:48:53.320 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 10>you know, it's got to have it. It's winner, go home,

0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 10>even though you're at home. You know, to have to

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.800
<v Speaker 10>be down twenty three to zero after the kickoff of

0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 10>the second half, come back, tie it up. You go

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 10>down to kick a game winning field goal. It gets blocked.

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 10>This is Elder, of course, Eldred has the kick blocked.

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 10>Princeton returns it for a touchdown. You're thinking, okay, that

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 10>that might be it. Right there, that's probably it because

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 10>there's about a minute and a half left when that happened,

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.359
<v Speaker 10>or so thirty to twenty three at that point, thirty

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 10>to twenty three, and then Elder storms down the field,

0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, seventy plus yard touchdown pass Yep from Estep

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 10>would shout out to that kid. He's been phenomenal for

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.919
<v Speaker 10>Elder a quarterback this year. But to Jackson Ruth, yeah,

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 10>yeah and huge, And you know I was telling you

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 10>this earlier, chickster, But you got to give credit to

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 10>the players for not mentally checking out and for fighting

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 10>all the way to the end, because you go down,

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 10>you tie it up, and then you go you somehow

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 10>recover an on side kick after your special teams has

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 10>not been good all day. Yeah, you go get the

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 10>field goal, you take the lead, you recover another on

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 10>side kick to seal the deal. I mean, one of

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 10>the more unbelievable wins I think I've seen in a

0:49:58.040 --> 0:49:59.280
<v Speaker 10>high school football game.

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about. And after the bottom of the hour news,

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.879
<v Speaker 1>we're going to welcome in Greg Schoemaker of Tri Statefootball

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>dot Com and he's already got the pairings out for

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>me for our discussion. The Wayne Warriors will face the

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Middletown Middies and the Saint X Bombers will collide with

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the Elder Panthers, who are twelve and oh for the

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 1>first time in their storied football history. How about it?

0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 10>How about it twelven and you don't lose it the

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 10>pit this year and you're twelve and oh for the

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 10>first time in history.

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And man, things are looking good for him. Let's just

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>hope they can keep it rolling. No doubt. And it's

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 1>so cool to go online and see people from all

0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>over the country, maybe even over the all over the

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>world watching the Elder Panthers and the Chickster was listening

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on Sacred Heart Radio last night when I saw that score.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm following it. It just to twenty

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>three to fifteen. I'm all over it listening. And then

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they tie it down score a touchdown, can't get the

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>two point conversion, but get the on side kick and

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 1>then a field goal to win it. Crazy, amazing.

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<v Speaker 10>Very credit to the players man like I said, not

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 10>checking out after being down and just played to the

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 10>last whistle and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And to Doug Ramsey and his staff, yeah,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 1>for keeping him upbeat, no doubt. Well, this has been

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>an awful lot of fun. Sean McMahon. We really appreciate

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you as the board op tonight and our producer keeping

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the Chickster off the ledge and in the fairway. I'm

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>always happy to do it with the Chickster, you know that.

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic And hey, we're gonna have some fun in the

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock hour. And just to put you know, a

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>bug in folks ears out there and to see if

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 1>this thing has any legs. We all know what a

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:55.919
<v Speaker 1>bustman's holiday is when you do something on your free

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>time that you normally do for work. Okay, so a

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>sports writer like the Chickster used to be man. I

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of busman's holidays, going to a high

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 1>school game on a Friday night, a college game on

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a Saturday, and then the Bengals on Sunday. So couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough sports as a sports writer. So just think

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>about your favorite busman's holiday and what you would like

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to do or what you have done on your free

0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 1>time sports wise. So awesome Sewn appreciates you, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is sports talk. Great shoemaker is neext tri Statefootball

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<v Speaker 4>Hey it's Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>In our next guest, nobody covers high school football like

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Greg Shoemaker, the director of operations for tristatefootball dot Com.

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>He joins us now, Greg, we've all experienced some great

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>evenings of high school football. Where does last night rank?

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be in your top five.

0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Man, Chick.

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 8>You know you're sitting here.

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 4>You guys are elder guys.

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 8>And that was a great finish. I was over at

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.840
<v Speaker 8>Indian Hill and watching that Calf game. That one was

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 8>just as crazy, which is crazy plays all over the place.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 8>One of those fun nights.

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know.

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 8>It was funny because there was a play in the

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 8>Indian Hill game where Taff was getting ready to score

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 8>early in the game and they fumbled the ball on

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.719
<v Speaker 8>like the three yard line kid from Indian Hill picks

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 8>it up, runs it almost a complete length of the

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 8>floor before the turf Monster getsing and he drops the football.

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Taff recovers it on the two, turns around, runs ninety

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:28.759
<v Speaker 8>eight yards on the next play for his score. I'm

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 8>sitting there talking to the referees on the sideline and

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 8>they're like, I've never seen anything like this, and the

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 8>other guy just, well, you stick around a long and

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 8>if you can find something you've.

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Never seen before.

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<v Speaker 11>It was just one of those nights.

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, wow, what an ending to a lot of

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 8>great games, for sure.

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>No doubt. And Saint Savior takes down Mighty Molor seventeen

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to thirteen to advance, and then to have Elder down

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Greg twenty three to nothing early third quarter after a

0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 1>kickoff return for touchdown, and then they have Elder battleback

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>tie it. Then a seventy one yard block field goal

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>return for the Princeton Vikings. Elder answers with a seventy

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>five yard hookup, but they missed the two point conversion,

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but then get the on sidekick and then eventually a

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty two yard field goal followed by another on sidekick

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that they recover and Elder wins thirty two to thirty,

0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:32.879
<v Speaker 1>erasing a twenty three to nothing deficit. Just absolutely unbelievable.

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 8>Let's talk about Elder for a minute. When the season started,

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 8>nobody thought they were going to be at this position.

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.919
<v Speaker 8>Twelve to zero, first time in school history, fourth ever

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 8>undefeated regular season in school history, first since nineteen ninety one.

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 8>This team, chick has they're twelve to oh. They have

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 8>seven wins against teams that have nine wins or more

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 8>on the season, another win against a team that has

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 8>eight wins, another team against that has seven wins, and

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 8>two teams that finished the year at six and six.

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 8>This team has won. And wait and all those wins

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.680
<v Speaker 8>only two of them they have to two point wins

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 8>and that everything else is eight points or more. The

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:20.400
<v Speaker 8>victories for Elder in this season very very impressive resume.

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 6>So they know how to get it done.

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 8>And I mean this, This is going to be an

0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 8>unbelievable battle against st X on next Friday night.

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:29.680
<v Speaker 2>For sure.

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Do we know where the game is going to be played?

0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 8>I do not know that yet. The only one I

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.920
<v Speaker 8>know for sure is the Division four game Valevue and

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 8>Indian Hill will be at Fairfield. That's the only one

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 8>I've seen it come across. So OHSAA hasn't announced that yet.

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 8>I would imagine that.

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:48.399
<v Speaker 12>Game will be I would.

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 8>I wouldn't be surprised if it's at Welcome Stadium.

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and after Elder defeated Saint X and Moler

0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.439
<v Speaker 1>back to back, I'm there, Hey, you're gonna run into

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.480
<v Speaker 1>one of these guys again, you know, in the playoffs.

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And so the number three seed Saint Xavier bombers at

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.880
<v Speaker 1>nine and two against the number one seed Elder Panthers

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>twelve and zero. Wow, what can we expect from this thing?

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy?

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So you know, and it's funny. I didn't get

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.959
<v Speaker 8>back to something on on Friday night's win. Last night's

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 8>win for Elder, Elder wore down Princeton.

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 2>In that game, they ran.

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 8>Eighty five offensive plays and princidentally ran like forty two

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 8>or forty three. So and in the first matchup this year,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 8>Elder won the game I think twenty three thirteen. They

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 8>won by ten. Kataney stepped the quarterback there. He had

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:46.640
<v Speaker 8>his way running and throwing the football. Saint x is

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 8>going to have to contain him. Sat X sauts star

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 8>Daniel Ballmer. He's he's he's playing three games now against Elder.

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:59.280
<v Speaker 8>He's a Vanderbilt committee's going to play linebacker there. But

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 8>and it's three games against the Elder. In his career,

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 8>he's averaged two hundred and twenty nine all purpose yards

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 8>per game. He had two hundred and eighty one yards

0:58:07.720 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 8>rushing as a sophomore, and then he's had like, you know,

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 8>sixty to seventy yards in three games against him receiving

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 8>the football. He's return kicks in these games. So both teams,

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, Stants is going to have to contain Eastep

0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 8>and Elder's going to have to contain Volmer if they're

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 8>going to get through. Either one is going to get

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 8>through the next game. So it would be very very

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 8>interesting to see how that goes. But right now, I mean, gosh,

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.560
<v Speaker 8>Moeler gave or sat Next gave up four hundred and

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 8>nine yards to Molar last last night and still ended

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 8>up winning that game, only allowing them three opportunities to score,

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 8>and two of those were field goal attempts by Jack Malabar,

0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:51.360
<v Speaker 8>the Molar kicker, who was who's been fantastic all season.

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.520
<v Speaker 8>He had another couple of great field goals last night

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 8>for the Crusaders and the loss.

0:58:56.360 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And Division one Region two. Wayne defeated Troy last night.

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 1>That game was on Spectrum in my area. And then

0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they faced the Middletown Midies. Wow. What a job Middletown

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>has done rebuilding that program.

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, College Jones. Two years ago he led with Road

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 8>to the regional championship game and they lost that one.

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 8>But I mean you know here, two years later, he

0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.840
<v Speaker 8>rebuilds the Middletown program. Middletown's given up just seven point

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 8>six points per game and four shutouts in their last

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 8>nine games. They've been fantastic defensively. They got guys all

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 8>over the field. And we talked about Daniel Ballmer being

0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:41.439
<v Speaker 8>a versatile player for Saint Xavier. Jordan Vans that same

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 8>sort of player for Middletown. He does a lot of

0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 8>different things and a lot of different areas and can

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 8>win a game for you. Now, Wayne, they were in

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:53.520
<v Speaker 8>the regional championship last year and lost to league rival

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 8>Centerville in that game. They know how to play in

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 8>this game. Their sophomore quarterback how well her Uh. It'll

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 8>be interesting to see how he bears in this They've

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 8>got a fantastic wide receiver in Jamior Avertt Brown. He

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 8>had I think six touches last night and almost two

1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 8>hundred dollar purpose yards. He had a rushing touchdown and

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 8>a punt return for a touchdown. He's a junior, but

1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 8>he's already committed to Ohio State, and he is one

1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 8>of those early nil money guys in high school. He's

1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 8>making some big bucks already. He's the first of what's

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 8>to come here, and it's sort of it's sort of

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 8>interesting to follow this tat because he's breaking the ground

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:36.080
<v Speaker 8>and watching him.

1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, I'm looking at uh gosh, Jeremiah Smith clone in

1:00:40.880 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a way, a younger, a younger version he's that. He's

1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that impressive. And Wayne coached by Roosevelt Mukes, a Wayne

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:54.880
<v Speaker 1>grad and University of Cincinnati former star. So love Rosie

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 1>up there at Huber Heights Wayne, And one last time, yeah,

1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:00.040
<v Speaker 1>one last.

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 8>Kylie Jones as a Middletown head coach is also a

1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:07.400
<v Speaker 8>Wayne graduate as well, so it's a homecoming for him

1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:08.200
<v Speaker 8>in that ball game.

1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Incredible. And one last thing here about elder Man, a

1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>shout out to the players for not giving up at

1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty three to nothing and the staff of Ramsey, Doug

1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey just a phenomenal job.

1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:25.280
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and those guys have been there forever. It's great

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:27.520
<v Speaker 8>to see Doug having a year like this thirty years

1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:30.240
<v Speaker 8>into his career. It's uh, you know, I mean, it's

1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:32.919
<v Speaker 8>it's a special time. And man, that defense, we didn't

1:01:32.960 --> 1:01:36.040
<v Speaker 8>talk about it, but Derrick gran and the player of

1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 8>the year in the Southwest District and Division one on

1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:42.760
<v Speaker 8>defense of Virginia commit. He's had a fantastic year. But

1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:47.240
<v Speaker 8>they're linebackers. They got Fort Camps and Dugan on there

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:50.200
<v Speaker 8>too as well. That's a that's a fantastic group. And

1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:52.200
<v Speaker 8>I think there's a Turner kid over there in that

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:56.200
<v Speaker 8>linebacker mix than Those linebackers are about as good MDEP

1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 8>as you can get. That's what makes them so special.

1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.280
<v Speaker 8>They have a room really good defense and they don't

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 8>let stuff behind him at all.

1:02:03.560 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 1>In Kentucky, we're into the third round of the playoffs.

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.840
<v Speaker 1>In Indiana, we've got the semi state going on. Man

1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Milin just wanted second regional title in school history last

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:19.080
<v Speaker 1>time nineteen ninety six host in South putting them so.

1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot of great football around the tri State great Shoemaker.

1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:27.200
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, hey, and the Milin story is a great story.

1:02:27.240 --> 1:02:30.600
<v Speaker 8>You know, we know them from Hoosiers and that basketball story,

1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:32.880
<v Speaker 8>but they're writing their own little Hoosier chapter over here.

1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:36.800
<v Speaker 8>They're head coach Ryan Langerman. He's in his eighteenth season

1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:39.880
<v Speaker 8>there and he was on that team that won in

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 8>nineteen ninety six the re or the regional championship. He's

1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:47.600
<v Speaker 8>got two sons, a junior Grant who's a great defensive

1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:50.720
<v Speaker 8>player and a freshman Beckett, who has just who went

1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:54.120
<v Speaker 8>over a thousand yards rushing last night as a freshman.

1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.480
<v Speaker 8>So he's got two kids on the team. Great story

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<v Speaker 8>right there, and I can't wait to follow that one

1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:02.040
<v Speaker 8>all week because somebody's going to get out there and

1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:04.360
<v Speaker 8>catch that one. It's a great story.

1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:04.720
<v Speaker 2>To be told.

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<v Speaker 8>The lang for Menzon and Myland Indians football for sure.

1:03:08.600 --> 1:03:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And Greg Shoemaker with us from tristatefootball dot com. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the director of operations. Nobody covers high school football

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<v Speaker 1>like Greg and his crew. And man, I'm looking around

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky here and some usual suspects Highlands, Cuvecath, Beachwood Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Great programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Really are?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean if Highlands and CUBCAF win. They're going to

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<v Speaker 8>be facing each other next week for a chance to

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<v Speaker 8>get to the state championships. I'd be a final four matchup.

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<v Speaker 8>In Class four A Lloyd twelve and zero for the

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<v Speaker 8>first time since nineteen ninety five. Fantastic here for them

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<v Speaker 8>as well, and Beachwood. Beachwoods averaging fifty plus points per game.

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<v Speaker 8>And in Class two A it's nothing but Juggernauts left

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<v Speaker 8>Belfree and Mayfield and Beachwood just the best of the

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<v Speaker 8>best in Division or Class two A there in Kentucky, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again for the folks out there Division one Wayne

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<v Speaker 1>against Middletown sainte X against Elder and in Division two

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<v Speaker 1>Trotwood Madison, the Rams in their principal, Michael McCrae. God

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<v Speaker 1>I covered him when he played up at Dunbar back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. He's the principal now at TM and

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<v Speaker 1>they are eight and three going up against the Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>Raptors twelve and oh incredible. And the Valley Vue Spartans

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<v Speaker 1>right there in Germantown, home of one Kyle Schwarber eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and one going against Indian Hill the Braves at twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and oh so man still some undefeated's out there, Greg.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, some good stuff out there, by the way. Mike McCrae,

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<v Speaker 8>I saw him in that state championship game at senior

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<v Speaker 8>year at Dayton Dunbar and his son. Mike's, yes, a

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<v Speaker 8>recruiting coordinator up at UMass Now when he was in

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<v Speaker 8>there at Trotwood Madison getting recruited before he went to Michigan,

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<v Speaker 8>Mike two, I was in there telling him. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I saw your dad playing a high school I said,

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<v Speaker 8>here's one heck of a rebounder. But he couldn't jump

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<v Speaker 8>over the Yellow Springs bow book.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, I repped volleyball there. He came up on

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<v Speaker 1>a break, gave me a big hug man, some great,

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<v Speaker 1>great memories and gosh, all the guys at Wayne, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, with Roosevelt Mukes and and the Red brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>the cousins and Ronnie Red and yeah, just great great

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<v Speaker 1>people up there. And what a gosh consistency with with

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne High School in Hubert Heights.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And they do a great job.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, Jay Minton did a great job up there beforehand,

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<v Speaker 8>and you just look at you know, look at Marcus

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<v Speaker 8>Freeman at Notre Dame and you look at Collie Jones's

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<v Speaker 8>doing what he's doing at Middletown and Rose He's doing

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<v Speaker 8>what he's doing at his alma mater, and uh, just

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<v Speaker 8>just great players have come through there, you know, Braxton

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<v Speaker 8>Miller and man just you know the Tingers, Dolls and

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<v Speaker 8>the Padillas that have come through there. And you've got

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<v Speaker 8>kids at the highest gate and you see from those

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<v Speaker 8>families playing now. So uh, they've done it right up there,

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<v Speaker 8>they really have, and they you know they could break through.

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<v Speaker 8>But mean, one heck of a game against Middletown, that's

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<v Speaker 8>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. And Greg, how about your coverage this this next weekend?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so look, I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>If you go to Tri Statefootball dot Com right now, Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>there's all kinds of great stuff from this past weekend. Interviews, recaps,

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<v Speaker 8>photo galleries, all kinds of great stuff all over that

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<v Speaker 8>that site.

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<v Speaker 2>This weekend. Yeah, we'll be we'll have.

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<v Speaker 8>Guys after the big school state championship games. I know

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to get pictures from the Milan game against

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<v Speaker 8>South Putnam. That's gonna be good. We'll have a gallery

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<v Speaker 8>on our site there. We'll have some people over in

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<v Speaker 8>Kentucky covering, but most of all, we'll be covering the

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<v Speaker 8>Moeller and Saint X game, or I'm sorry, the Elder

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<v Speaker 8>and Saint X game, and then you know Trice High

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<v Speaker 8>School football tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen thirty. That'll be before and after the Saint X

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<v Speaker 8>Elder game. So we'll be on and we'll have coach

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<v Speaker 8>interviews in the post game. We had specta on last

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<v Speaker 8>week or last Friday or last night after the win.

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<v Speaker 8>Paul Wiggins from Newport joined us last night after they

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<v Speaker 8>knocked off Holy Cross and ended their regular season, perfect

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<v Speaker 8>season and just some good stuff, so we'll have more

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<v Speaker 8>of that all weekend. It'll be a great Friday night

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<v Speaker 8>for sure on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN fifteen

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<v Speaker 8>thirty and tri Statefootball dot Com as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, Greg, we were blessed with great weather last night.

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<v Speaker 1>All those Elder Panthers under around the shirtless last night

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<v Speaker 1>at the Pitt Elder Stadium. But we've been pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>blessed here with great weather this fall, we really have,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think.

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<v Speaker 8>We might end up having another decent game like that

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<v Speaker 8>as well, So let's take it while we can. It

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't happen this late in years as well as it does.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, at this time usually running the football

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<v Speaker 8>is a big thing and passing the football gets difficult,

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<v Speaker 8>but yet it is yet to happen. I saw, I

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<v Speaker 8>saw a forty seven yard field goal last night and

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<v Speaker 8>in the second week in November. It's that's pretty rare.

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<v Speaker 2>This time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 8>It was good to see that. You know, the kids

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<v Speaker 8>can play in element they don't have to play in

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<v Speaker 8>the elements. They can play their games in great weather.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome, well fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, director of operations for

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<v Speaker 1>Tri Statefootball dot Com and your entire crew. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else you want to mention with your with your team?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, man, I like to thank all our guys this

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<v Speaker 8>year to coming out and seeing us are working for

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<v Speaker 8>Jake Berkameyer does a great job. Him and Daniel Coone.

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<v Speaker 8>They do their own podcast uh sefwan Alvi. He always

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<v Speaker 8>joins me on Friday nights on the post game version

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<v Speaker 8>of High School Football Tonight. James Sprague is always out

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<v Speaker 8>covering James Forrest, Brandon Lampley as well. I've got a

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<v Speaker 8>good group over there. They've been there with us for

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<v Speaker 8>a few years now, and I'm really proud of that group.

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<v Speaker 8>And of course Dan Klaskin is my business partner over there.

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<v Speaker 8>He does this thing, making sure this whole thing keeps

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<v Speaker 8>taking week to week and we're all happy and getting

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<v Speaker 8>our assignments completed.

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<v Speaker 1>All fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us tonight and talking high school football. Nothing like Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night lights and Saturday night too. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks so good man, Chick.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll talk to you soon, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Greg Shoemaker, always appreciate it. Hey, this is Sports

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<v Speaker 1>He slams at all.

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<v Speaker 13>avalanche of alley oops? Or will the Mountaineers climb off

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<v Speaker 13>with a win? Catch the call live tomorrow at five

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<v Speaker 1>Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com takes you from nine to midnight.

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<v Speaker 1>the director of sports operations here for iHeartMedia Cincinnati, join

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<v Speaker 1>me at the top of the show to talk Red's baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Breach, the career scoring leader for the Bengals with

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<v Speaker 1>one and fifty one points, join me at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the six o'clock hour to talk Bengals and Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim and I will be co hosting postgame sports

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<v Speaker 1>Talk tomorrow, Wings and Rings Greendale, Indiana from five point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to eight to five thirty to eight thirty tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>strictly on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty because U se basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take over the airwaves right here on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll come on out. You'll enter Indiana and

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<v Speaker 1>take Exit sixteen toward US fifty and take the Greendale Lawrenceburg,

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<v Speaker 1>Aurora exit and we're gonna have some fun tomorrow with

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<v Speaker 1>Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana. And then Greg Shoemaker

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<v Speaker 1>joined us to talk high school football. Well, we have

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<v Speaker 1>all heard the term busman's holiday. It's a vacation or

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<v Speaker 1>a form of recreation that involves doing basically the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you do at work, Okay, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>my share of busman's holidays as a sports writer at

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<v Speaker 1>the Dayton Daily News. Just to give you a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of examples, I covered Wright State basketball in the Horizon

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<v Speaker 1>League for ten years and there were times when Wright

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<v Speaker 1>State would be playing the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee in

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Mecca where Marquette used to play, Okay, for

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<v Speaker 1>like an afternoon game or an evening game, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time that day, or at a different time

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<v Speaker 1>that day Dayton, the Flyers would be in Milwaukee facing

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<v Speaker 1>Marquette at the Bradley Center back then. So with the

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<v Speaker 1>times being different, I was able to finagle a press

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<v Speaker 1>pass to go see the Flyers and Marquette play on

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<v Speaker 1>the same day that Wright State played. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>a busman's holiday. When a bus driver rides the bus

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<v Speaker 1>on his off day, Okay, that's where it all stems

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<v Speaker 1>from and there were times when Hey, I would cover

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<v Speaker 1>a high school game on a Friday night, high school football,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if I would be off on Sunday, hey

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<v Speaker 1>go to a Bengals game and then even catch a

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<v Speaker 1>college football game on Saturday ud or the Ohio State University,

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<v Speaker 1>my alma mater, when I wasn't working. So what would

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<v Speaker 1>be your ideal busman's holiday? Maybe you've experienced one, or

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to experience it. Man, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you. We're opening up the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time at five one, three, seven four nine,

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one and first

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate here he's been waiting a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Our good friend in Dayton, Richard Dick. It wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>a show without you, man. How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you check?

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<v Speaker 1>Great? How are you?

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<v Speaker 14>Hey?

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<v Speaker 9>Chick?

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<v Speaker 11>It's ten to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>The buck guys are rocking, buddy, Well, I've got it

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<v Speaker 1>on the big screen here in the seven hundred WLW studios,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope Julian's saying the quarterback of the Buckeyes,

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<v Speaker 1>who've got pushed and uh yeah, some bumps and bruises,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're off to a good start here ten to

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<v Speaker 1>nothing over Ucla.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I just wanted to tell you too about a

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<v Speaker 11>busman's holiday was uh. I think it was back when

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<v Speaker 11>you were covering the the uh the Bengals and we

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<v Speaker 11>got to go uh just saw your Point and play

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<v Speaker 11>there during tall Stacks and I could see, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>uh all all the uh steamboats came in and we

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<v Speaker 11>went down to party a little bit. I think we

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<v Speaker 11>went to uh that place and uh was its Uh

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<v Speaker 11>I'm trying to think and uh Westchester.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 11>We we stopped at Burbanks and had lunch. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>this people, it was really nice. You know, we were city,

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<v Speaker 11>you know where saw your Point was. Yes, but we

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<v Speaker 11>were playing and just the people. It was a beautiful day.

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<v Speaker 11>But you know it was just really nice, chick.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, gosh, I remember going quite often

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<v Speaker 1>to see University of Cincinnati put on play on the

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<v Speaker 1>showboat Majestic right there, you know, right there at the

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<v Speaker 1>foot of the landing. Was just awesome.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, what can we Maybe I'll give you a prediction?

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<v Speaker 11>Can I go twenty seven four tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it? Yeah, with Ohio State or with

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals on top of the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm hoping the defense has to produce, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure does, it absolutely does. Have a good night,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, appreciate it, Thank you very much, Dick. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite busman's holiday, whether you went on

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<v Speaker 1>one or would like to experience one? And oh man

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<v Speaker 1>being in Philadelphia when Dayton entered the Atlantic ten and

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<v Speaker 1>they shipped me the Dayton Daily News ship me to

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia for a weekend. It was just incredible seeing Dayton

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<v Speaker 1>and LaSalle play then. And that was on a Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night at the Philly Civic Center. The next night I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at McGonagall Hall on the campus at Temple University watching

1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Temple play Rhode Island. And then that Saturday, Wright stayed

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<v Speaker 1>against LaSalle at the Palaestra. So what a unbelievable weekend

1:17:23.880 --> 1:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I had in Philadelphia. Just tremendous, great memories. Hey, a

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<v Speaker 1>story broke this week ESPN's Dan Orlovsky, former quarterback, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. He would like

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Day to become head coach of the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Football Giants. And I'm saying, Ryan, don't do it. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think about it. And I did some research here

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<v Speaker 1>on six former coaches and current coaches that tried to

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<v Speaker 1>go from college to pro and it just didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>work out. And I want to start way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the year that I graduated from the Ohio State University

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy six. Lou Holtz coached the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Jets in nineteen seventy six. He had come from NC

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<v Speaker 1>State and he took over the New York Jets. He

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<v Speaker 1>resigned that year with one game left in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He resigned when the Jets were three and ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said God just didn't mean for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL coach. Then he went on to Arkansas, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame in South Carolina. Lou Holtz. The Jets finished

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<v Speaker 1>three and eleven that year, but Lou resigned with one

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<v Speaker 1>game left in that nineteen seventy six season. And then

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<v Speaker 1>how about Bobby Petrino taking over the Falcons in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven. He was charged with developing Michael Vick

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<v Speaker 1>as a total quarterback. He was a tremendous runner. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem that Patrino found in two thousand and seven was

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick was bankrolling that dog fighting scheme and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't allowed to leave the Great State of Virginia. He

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<v Speaker 1>wound up being out of football and the problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the Falcons that year they t the off season, Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Schaub traded him to the Houston Texans, so the Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>were strapped at quarterback with Joey Harrington, Byron Lefwich and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Redman. And speaking of three and ten, Bobby Petrino

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<v Speaker 1>resigned after a three and ten start and took the

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching job at the University of Arkansas. Mike Zimmer

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<v Speaker 1>was his defensive coordinator. All of a sudden, he was

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<v Speaker 1>out of a job, and he led us to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Zimmer that if he ever ran into Bobby Patrino

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<v Speaker 1>he might put him in a book garbage can. He

1:20:43.240 --> 1:20:49.000
<v Speaker 1>was that upset. But Mike Zimmer eventually became defensive cordator

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cincinnati Bengals and is one of my favorite coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Cam Cameron Okay five years at Indiana University

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<v Speaker 1>from night eighteen ninety seven through two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he became the San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator from

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<v Speaker 1>two through six. He was given he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>given the Miami Dolphins head coaching job in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and seven. He went one in fifteen before moving on

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<v Speaker 1>to the Baltimore Ravens as the offensive coordinator. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>point zero six to three winning percentage one in fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Cameron so from Indiana University, and yes, he was

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<v Speaker 1>with the Chargers for five years. Didn't work out for him,

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<v Speaker 1>being a former college coach going and becoming an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. I want to put Nick Saban in this category.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won seven national titles, one at LSU in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three and then six more at the University

1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of Alama, Obama. Now he's an accomplished football analyst on ESPN,

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<v Speaker 1>but he took over as the Miami Dolphins head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five and two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>and he finished fifteen and seventeen with the Dolphins, so

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't horrible. He was close to five hundred, but

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<v Speaker 1>he also realized the NFL was not for him. He

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<v Speaker 1>moved on to Alabama and won six national championships. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling Brian Day, don't do it. Don't think about

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<v Speaker 1>going to the NFL, don't think about coaching the new

1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>York Football Giants. And there's two more on my list here.

1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly great success at Oregon versus the offensive coordinator

1:22:51.240 --> 1:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and then as the head coach from two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine through twenty twelve. He was named the head coach

1:22:58.200 --> 1:23:04.439
<v Speaker 1>of the Philadelphia Eagles in twan thirteen. He lasted three

1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:07.120
<v Speaker 1>years for the Eagles. His first two years he went

1:23:07.200 --> 1:23:11.519
<v Speaker 1>ten and six, then his third year six and nine

1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:17.360
<v Speaker 1>and got fired. Then he coached the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers in twenty sixteen, went two to fourteen and

1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>then got fired before returning to the college ranks. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course there's Urban Meyer. Two national titles at Florida

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and six in two thousand and eight,

1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>another national title as head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty fourteen, he was named head coach of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty one. He lasted thirteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>The team went two and eleven. Right there with lasting

1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:04.599
<v Speaker 1>just thirteen games along with Lou Holtz of the Jets

1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and Bobby Petrino with the Atlanta Falcons and Urban Meyers

1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>one fifty four winning percentage at Jacksonville was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of any non interim head coach since Cam Cameron's two

1:24:22.400 --> 1:24:26.600
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven Dolphins that went one and fifteen. So

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<v Speaker 1>my whole point here is, don't go to the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Day. You're at the Ohio State University, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're there for a very long time. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>out to the phones. Is it Bryce on the line? Bryce?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, it is welcome, Hi chick.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, do you see their tough loss to Arizona

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<v Speaker 7>struggles on the offic that's Brendan Zortesy two interceptions today.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that was and he had two interceptions on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was really really tough to watch. Those were

1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like punts. I mean, they were just bad interceptions.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, especially the offense cannot capitalize two missfield goals

1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:23.360
<v Speaker 7>from Arizona's kicker, and they could just not convert on

1:25:23.439 --> 1:25:26.760
<v Speaker 7>those opportunities. They're not playing complimentary football to death.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right. You know, I'm looking Bryce at the

1:25:31.200 --> 1:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>standings here in the Big Twelve Conference, and there are

1:25:35.320 --> 1:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>six teams within one game of each other. The Texas

1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Tech Red Raiders big win today, they're seven and one

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<v Speaker 1>in the conference. BYU Placed tonight they're five and one,

1:25:48.840 --> 1:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and then the Houston Cougars, Arizona State sun Devils, you

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<v Speaker 1>see Bearcats in Utah Utes, all with two losses in

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<v Speaker 1>the conference. So it's still, uh, it's still kind of

1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:08.360
<v Speaker 1>wide open, but Texas texture looks like the cream of

1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>the crop along with BYU.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's still possible, but UC's most definitely gonna have

1:26:14.960 --> 1:26:16.880
<v Speaker 7>to win against BYU and TCU. They're gonna have to

1:26:16.920 --> 1:26:19.479
<v Speaker 7>win out just to even have a chance at our

1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:22.320
<v Speaker 7>to make it to at and T Stadium. You never

1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:24.520
<v Speaker 7>know what could happened in a crazy conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 7>But we'll see what happens along the least.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, and uh, it was just a day

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<v Speaker 1>of missed opportunities for uh, for the UC Bearcats. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I understand you're in Anderson township. Do you follow the

1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Anderson High School football team or U turping?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>I followed Anderson High School football team a lot, and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to Anderson. I go to a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>their games, and a great one yesterday against LAUSU.

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<v Speaker 1>And Anderson plays the Trotwood Madison Rams for the Division

1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>two Region eight championship this coming week. The Anderson Raptors

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and oh how about that.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, they've had it.

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<v Speaker 7>They've strung together a great season. It started against the

1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.479
<v Speaker 7>great team from Kentucky Cooper. They were down at half

1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:15.160
<v Speaker 7>time just to start the season and they never looked

1:27:15.240 --> 1:27:17.439
<v Speaker 7>back from that. From that game, they went twelve to

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<v Speaker 7>oh and I back to back final fours, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think they it's their year this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson, Well, fantastic. Bryce. Hey, great hearing from you for

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<v Speaker 1>the second week in a row. Awesome you're on your way.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, it's always great calling and you just have

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<v Speaker 8>a great.

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<v Speaker 7>Rest of your rookend.

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<v Speaker 8>Chick.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Bryce, all right, appreciate it, Thanks so much,

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<v Speaker 1>take care, thank you. All right, half hour is gone quickly. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>we got another half hour to go all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to nine o'clock tonight, Sports Talk with your host Chick

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<v Speaker 1>Ludwig on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 15>Ease Taylor versus Tumblin and the steel Citys look to

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<v Speaker 15>toss the Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot

1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:07.200
<v Speaker 15>I can say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can

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<v Speaker 15>be set on the radio. The Bengals slug it out

1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:14.439
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<v Speaker 4>More than a few of our patients have talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to seven hundred WLW. This is Chick Ludwig

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty nine on this Saturday night, and Jason Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is in the house. I'll be listening to Jason on

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<v Speaker 1>my way back to the Miamisburg War Room. Jason's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be here at not from nine to midnight tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati dot Com and the Inquirer. Hey, we're talking some

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<v Speaker 1>mo busman's holiday. Nothing like going to Hinkelfield House in

1:28:57.800 --> 1:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis and check out an afternoon Saturday basketball game, and

1:29:04.040 --> 1:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>then to the field House later to watch the Indiana Pacers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go out to the phones. Welcome in our good

1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:14.439
<v Speaker 1>friend Kevin in Columbus, Hi. Kevin.

1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, well right now, I'm also half keeping

1:29:18.479 --> 1:29:19.080
<v Speaker 2>an eye on.

1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:21.920
<v Speaker 5>The Buckey's game, but they probably got it in the hand.

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<v Speaker 5>But don't guaranteed. I appreciate you talking some reds early

1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:29.639
<v Speaker 5>on in this show, because I still am looking forward

1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:33.960
<v Speaker 5>to the season and convinced Francona can get this team going.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it takes more than one year. But as far

1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:40.799
<v Speaker 5>as the Bengals, I mean, even if they win tomorrow,

1:29:41.000 --> 1:29:44.080
<v Speaker 5>it's Burrow or no Burrow. They have the same problem

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<v Speaker 5>as last year. You know, great offense and awful defense.

1:29:49.680 --> 1:29:53.280
<v Speaker 5>You're better the other way around, great defense and so

1:29:53.439 --> 1:29:55.360
<v Speaker 5>so offense because you at least have a little more

1:29:55.439 --> 1:29:59.080
<v Speaker 5>control of the game. This way, you're just hoping they

1:29:59.160 --> 1:30:02.200
<v Speaker 5>win a shootout every week, and that's not always gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're absolutely right about that, and we see it.

1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's football, and maybe that's the way the NFL

1:30:09.520 --> 1:30:12.080
<v Speaker 5>wants it, you know, they they don't want remember the

1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:14.799
<v Speaker 5>old days where he had the boring, you know, six.

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<v Speaker 2>Tough in games.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's remember that, but hey, that that was

1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>football into the football is basically blocking and tackling, and

1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:27.519
<v Speaker 3>we don't seem to have anyone can tackle the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>We really didn't worry about that. It was gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The offense will be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But you remember the kickers, don't you Kevins.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the last one of those.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, yeah, the no sidewinders then, but it was uh,

1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:50.720
<v Speaker 5>it's uh uh Bengals, they got to somehow get their

1:30:50.760 --> 1:30:53.400
<v Speaker 5>defense better. You know, Burn will be back there when

1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:55.320
<v Speaker 5>they want to play him this year. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>but then we consider and crossing our fingers, Toby don't

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<v Speaker 5>get hurt again for real, you know, I don't know,

1:31:01.560 --> 1:31:05.400
<v Speaker 5>but it's they I don't know what's happened to the

1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:07.720
<v Speaker 5>defense and these guys they just run right by him.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't tackle many players.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's frustrating blown coverages and uh lack of tackle. Tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 12>Why didn't they tackle that guy in the Bears cave?

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<v Speaker 12>They would have just knocked him down. Then the Bears

1:31:20.880 --> 1:31:23.519
<v Speaker 12>would have been panicking and scrambling to get up. I

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<v Speaker 12>can't remember when they had a time out or not,

1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:27.920
<v Speaker 12>but it was down to twenty seconds they would have been,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, and that's they could do something wrong. Maybe

1:31:30.840 --> 1:31:32.719
<v Speaker 12>we'd have pulled out a win there, but it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 12>change the whole scheme of things, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But uh, hey, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Great here and you on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hang up and hear what you got, all right, Kevin,

1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it? Oh yeah, all right, thank you. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave arm Brewster Yddy gave us a big time confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals will win tomorrow, So I'm uh, I'm

1:31:53.760 --> 1:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>fired up about that. And just a reminder that Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Breach and I will be at the Wings and Rings

1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>in Greendale, Indiana tomorrow for Bengals postgame Sports Talk five

1:32:05.560 --> 1:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thirty to eight thirty and will be strictly on Cincinnati's

1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:13.599
<v Speaker 1>ESPN fifteen thirty because the UC Bearcats are playing hoops

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow at six o'clock, So with all the coverage starting

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll want directions to the Wings and Rings in Greendale,

1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:35.080
<v Speaker 1>enter Indiana, Exit sixteen toward US fifty Greendale, Lawrence Burg

1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:37.679
<v Speaker 1>and the Aurora exit. Come on out and see Jim

1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Breach and the Chickster. We're gonna have a lot of

1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>fun breaking the game down like a wrecking ball. Well,

1:32:44.880 --> 1:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>we're also talking Busman's Holiday and Sean McMahon, tonight's producer,

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<v Speaker 1>being an elder grad and a University of Cincinnati grad,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a holiday that you would like to experience

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<v Speaker 1>in sport?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I guess, I guess Now that I've been

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<v Speaker 10>in media a while, I guess going to sporting events

1:33:07.640 --> 1:33:10.479
<v Speaker 10>it counts as a bustman's holiday for me, doesn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>it would, I guess it does, because you know, for

1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:15.040
<v Speaker 10>a while I was doing I was doing stuff with

1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:16.920
<v Speaker 10>the UC football team. Not as a player, but I

1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:19.559
<v Speaker 10>was a part of the coach's video team. Shout out

1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:23.920
<v Speaker 10>to my colleagues from those days. But it was it

1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:26.800
<v Speaker 10>was strange, chick because for four years or two years,

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:29.080
<v Speaker 10>I did that. So I was traveling with the team,

1:33:29.120 --> 1:33:32.280
<v Speaker 10>I was filming every practice, and you know, I was

1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.200
<v Speaker 10>working all the time for those games. In the next

1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:36.559
<v Speaker 10>two years, I was doing stuff for bear Cast Media,

1:33:36.640 --> 1:33:39.960
<v Speaker 10>calling the games for student Radio down at UC, and

1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:42.200
<v Speaker 10>going to a game as a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird because I feel like I should be

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<v Speaker 1>like working.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's it's such a strange feeling going as a

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<v Speaker 10>fan because it's not something I get to do often.

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<v Speaker 10>I just love going down to Nippert. I love going

1:33:54.640 --> 1:33:57.080
<v Speaker 10>down to UC. I love being on campus. UC is

1:33:57.160 --> 1:33:59.960
<v Speaker 10>really home to me. Uh And I actually got to

1:34:00.200 --> 1:34:03.000
<v Speaker 10>go to homecoming this year, and I was very appreciative

1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:04.439
<v Speaker 10>of that. I met up with a friend of mine

1:34:04.479 --> 1:34:06.720
<v Speaker 10>I hadn't seen in a while, and we spent the

1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:10.160
<v Speaker 10>day together and we watched the Cats beat Baylor, and

1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:12.599
<v Speaker 10>actually I bumped into a colleague of ours, Chick.

1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I got to see Tommy Thrall at halftime. I bumped

1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>into him. I have a picture with him on my

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 10>And it was just funny seeing him there because one

1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:25.439
<v Speaker 10>of my colleagues from the UC football video team said, Hey,

1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:26.400
<v Speaker 10>you know Tommy's here, right.

1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how do you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>That is awesome?

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<v Speaker 10>He said, I saw him over by the by the

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<v Speaker 10>the building, at near the cheering section or the student section.

1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:35.800
<v Speaker 10>I said, oh, no, kidding. So I shot him at

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<v Speaker 10>text and I said I heard you're here, and he goes,

1:34:37.880 --> 1:34:40.400
<v Speaker 10>how'd you know that? And I said, someone saw you

1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:42.360
<v Speaker 10>and recognize you that I know, and so I figured

1:34:42.360 --> 1:34:45.559
<v Speaker 10>I come find you. But yeah, for a busman's holiday, Chick.

1:34:45.600 --> 1:34:49.320
<v Speaker 10>I just love going to Nippert It just it feels

1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:51.760
<v Speaker 10>it feels right for me to be there. I just

1:34:51.880 --> 1:34:56.439
<v Speaker 10>love UC's campus. I've always been passionate about UC since

1:34:56.439 --> 1:34:59.680
<v Speaker 10>I kind of picked up being a UC fan. I

1:34:59.800 --> 1:35:02.960
<v Speaker 10>love my time there, and personally I love going to

1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:05.600
<v Speaker 10>college football games across the country when I got the

1:35:05.680 --> 1:35:07.640
<v Speaker 10>chance to do that. When I was a senior, I

1:35:07.720 --> 1:35:10.639
<v Speaker 10>got to travel to Notre Dame, got to travel to Indiana,

1:35:10.760 --> 1:35:14.439
<v Speaker 10>watched the Bearcats play those guys and have a historic season.

1:35:14.560 --> 1:35:18.040
<v Speaker 10>I've been across the country at different football stadium so personally,

1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:20.560
<v Speaker 10>I'd love to go check out other team stadiums, you know,

1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:24.400
<v Speaker 10>some of the bigger programs Texas, Florida, Alabama.

1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been to the Shoe.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been to the Big House both times watching the Bearcats.

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<v Speaker 10>So for me, I think I'd just like to travel

1:35:33.560 --> 1:35:36.840
<v Speaker 10>to a bunch of the college football arena's great college

1:35:36.880 --> 1:35:38.479
<v Speaker 10>football arenas across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>That is fantastic. Yeah, and gosh it was. Now I'm

1:35:43.000 --> 1:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to think of the year nineteen ninety six when

1:35:46.920 --> 1:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State they wound up playing in the ninety seven

1:35:50.520 --> 1:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Rose Bowl. I got to go out and help cover

1:35:53.840 --> 1:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State and my beat was Arizona State at the

1:35:57.439 --> 1:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Rose Bowl, so they stayed up near Pasadena. So it

1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:06.679
<v Speaker 1>was just phenomenal the prime days of Arizona State too. Yes, yes,

1:36:06.880 --> 1:36:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it was just a tremendous experience a week out there

1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and Ohio State was down in Orange County, and Arizona

1:36:17.479 --> 1:36:19.760
<v Speaker 1>State was up by near Pasadena, and I was in

1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a residence in I mean really five to ten minutes

1:36:23.760 --> 1:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>away from Santa Anita Raceway and just a blast out

1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:29.760
<v Speaker 1>there for a week.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm jealous, man, the Rose Bulls. I've heard it's phenomenal.

1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:34.599
<v Speaker 10>It's just stunning out there.

1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Been there twice once as a student and Ohio State

1:36:39.360 --> 1:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>one in nineteen seventy four. Wow, it was my sophomore

1:36:43.000 --> 1:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>year January one of seventy four. We beat Southern cal

1:36:48.040 --> 1:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>forty two to twenty one. And yeah, one of my

1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:55.679
<v Speaker 1>claims of fame is walking at Saint John Arena Winter

1:36:55.760 --> 1:37:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Quarter in nineteen seventy six with Archie Griffin. How about that? Yeah?

1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And then as a sports writer covering Clark Kellogg's high

1:37:03.840 --> 1:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>school career at Cleveland Saint Joe and then also a

1:37:07.680 --> 1:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Herb Street at Centerville High School. You've seen it all,

1:37:11.240 --> 1:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>so just tremendous. And Chris Carter at Middletown there you go.

1:37:15.880 --> 1:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>So just got to see some great, great athletes. And

1:37:19.240 --> 1:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Ron Harper at Kaiser High School before he went to

1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami University and then off to the NBA. So I

1:37:25.840 --> 1:37:29.280
<v Speaker 1>got to see some tremendous. You know, a lot of

1:37:29.560 --> 1:37:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you know because I substitute teach, and a lot of

1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:34.240
<v Speaker 1>kids recognized the voice, and they all ask me about

1:37:34.840 --> 1:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>becoming a sports writer or a broadcaster. And the one

1:37:38.000 --> 1:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>thing I tell kids that want to be sports writers,

1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't be where oftentimes where you want to be. Yep, okay,

1:37:46.320 --> 1:37:49.559
<v Speaker 1>And there was the year. I'll never forget it. It's

1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the opening day of the NFL season. So my head

1:37:53.200 --> 1:37:56.599
<v Speaker 1>is either in Cleveland or in Cincinnati with the Browns

1:37:56.680 --> 1:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and Bengals. Okay, and here I'm at the IndyCar Race

1:38:02.360 --> 1:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>in Lexington, Ohio, at mid Ohio, the Indy Cars on

1:38:07.280 --> 1:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the road course, and I just told myself, Hey, you're

1:38:09.880 --> 1:38:14.479
<v Speaker 1>getting paid to do this. Michael Andretti won that day,

1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:17.679
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna do a hell of a job covering

1:38:18.200 --> 1:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this IndyCar race. It was a cold day, and but

1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:25.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't always get to be where you want to be.

1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:30.479
<v Speaker 1>And uh, but that's the way it is. And wow

1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>do we have Wow? This is a surprise? Is this

1:38:34.760 --> 1:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Sue on the line? Sue, Yeah, welcome, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 14>I'll say I'll wait, No.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on, you are on?

1:38:45.960 --> 1:38:49.240
<v Speaker 14>Oh, I'm on. Okay, My question is, but I have

1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:53.960
<v Speaker 14>to talk about Jim Breech. Yeah, I see as old

1:38:54.080 --> 1:38:59.479
<v Speaker 14>is the Hills because I know I've knew his daughter

1:39:00.280 --> 1:39:01.120
<v Speaker 14>many years ago.

1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say, oh, it's the Hills, but you know

1:39:05.720 --> 1:39:08.720
<v Speaker 1>he's pasted seventy that's for sure. The chickster is seventy one.

1:39:09.640 --> 1:39:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:39:10.280 --> 1:39:13.519
<v Speaker 14>I know he did good with the Bengals. And I

1:39:13.720 --> 1:39:15.800
<v Speaker 14>used to like to hear when you had him one

1:39:16.040 --> 1:39:16.880
<v Speaker 14>earlier too.

1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, beautiful, yes, had him on and then we'll be

1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>together tomorrow.

1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:26.240
<v Speaker 14>Well. I do like your odd games too, like the

1:39:26.400 --> 1:39:30.400
<v Speaker 14>other announcers do too, or the other co hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, yes, dig it sound good and hang.

1:39:36.200 --> 1:39:40.040
<v Speaker 14>In there and do not weep too much if the

1:39:40.479 --> 1:39:44.280
<v Speaker 14>Bengals lose. I want them to win too, Okay, yes, ma'am,

1:39:44.760 --> 1:39:48.600
<v Speaker 14>Yes we'll and I can hardly wait until February the

1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:53.240
<v Speaker 14>twenty six. Yes to the first spring game. Yeah, maybe

1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:56.920
<v Speaker 14>that'll be my best Men's holiday if I can get

1:39:57.000 --> 1:39:58.200
<v Speaker 14>out of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fantastic too. I appreciate the call, thank you.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, hang in there for your last few.

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<v Speaker 6>Minutes, all right, thanks so much.

1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>And in these last few minutes, how about on this

1:40:10.160 --> 1:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>date in Red's history one day ago, November fourteenth, Let's

1:40:15.200 --> 1:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>go way back to eighteen eighty nine, the Reds are

1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:22.559
<v Speaker 1>admitted back into the National League. Cincinnati was dropped from

1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the league in eighteen eighty because of violations involving the

1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:30.439
<v Speaker 1>playing of baseball on Sundays and the sale of beer

1:40:30.520 --> 1:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>at the ballpark. Cincinnati had been a member of the

1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>American Association since eighteen eighty two, but admitted back in

1:40:38.240 --> 1:40:44.479
<v Speaker 1>the National League in eighteen eighty nine. On November fourteenth, Wow,

1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>how about that? And we see here where Google and

1:40:48.720 --> 1:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Disney have reached a deal to restore ESPN and ABC

1:40:52.560 --> 1:40:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to YouTube TV. And I know a lot of folks

1:40:57.720 --> 1:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth over that.

1:41:00.600 --> 1:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>So welcome back ESPN and ABC to YouTube TV. And

1:41:06.080 --> 1:41:09.240
<v Speaker 1>sad to hear the news about Kenny Easley passing away,

1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>great UCLA player, Seattle Seahawks strong safety Hall of Famer

1:41:16.920 --> 1:41:21.439
<v Speaker 1>dead at the age of sixty six. And I think

1:41:21.520 --> 1:41:26.240
<v Speaker 1>by now a lot of loyal listeners know that one

1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:31.639
<v Speaker 1>of my hobbies is tracking deceased Bengals players. You had

1:41:31.720 --> 1:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to have played in a game and been on an

1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>official roster for me, to research you. And in addition

1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:46.639
<v Speaker 1>to Bob Trumpy and Rudy Johnson passing away recently, there's

1:41:46.720 --> 1:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>two more names that I want to throw out there.

1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Warren McVeigh died at the age of seventy nine here recently.

1:41:57.600 --> 1:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>He was the first black player in the history of

1:42:01.840 --> 1:42:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the University of Houston Cougars. And what's crazy about Warren.

1:42:06.360 --> 1:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>He was with the Bengals in nineteen sixty eight and

1:42:09.160 --> 1:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>part of nineteen sixty nine. He got traded to the

1:42:12.960 --> 1:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>AFL Kansas City Chiefs during the nineteen sixty nine season

1:42:17.960 --> 1:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>for kicker Horst Muleman, and he made a significant impact

1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>with the Kansas City Chiefs as a kickoff returner and

1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>he rushed for five hundred yards that year, and the

1:42:34.280 --> 1:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl and it was

1:42:38.840 --> 1:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl four with a twenty three to seven victory

1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>over the Minnesota Vikings. So Warren McVeigh deceased at the

1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>age of seventy nine. And you might remember this name too,

1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Pat Mattson. He was a messenger guard for the Bengals

1:42:58.439 --> 1:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen sixty eight through nineteen seventy four, and he

1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:09.519
<v Speaker 1>made the club as a in the expansion draft. The

1:43:09.600 --> 1:43:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Bengals had forty players that they selected off other clubs.

1:43:16.080 --> 1:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Each club had to put up like three players, and

1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Pat made the team as an offensive guard University of Oregon.

1:43:23.840 --> 1:43:28.599
<v Speaker 1>He had played at Denver and with the Bengals from

1:43:28.680 --> 1:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy four. He recently died

1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:36.599
<v Speaker 1>at the age of eighty one. And a couple more

1:43:36.640 --> 1:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>players off the original nineteen sixty eight Bengals have passed

1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:44.840
<v Speaker 1>a lineman by the name two linemen, John Matt Locke

1:43:45.120 --> 1:43:49.599
<v Speaker 1>and Andy Rice, so that takes the number of deceased

1:43:49.880 --> 1:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Bengals players past the seventy mark. So hey want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank all the loyal listeners checking us out tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>thanking our guest Devut d Armbrewster, Jim Breach, Greg Shoemaker

1:44:03.240 --> 1:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>of Tristatefootball dot com and until next time, which happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana.

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