Speaker 1: Six oh seven in the Queens City of Cincinnati, Chick
Speaker 1: Ludwig seven hundred w l W. This is Sports Talk.
Speaker 1: Sean McMahon is tonight's producer. We are going all the
Speaker 1: way to nine o'clock tonight, and we're coming out of
Speaker 1: the gates strong. Our first guest is a gentleman who
Speaker 1: wears three hats. He's the director of sports operations right
Speaker 1: here at iHeartMedia Cincinnati. He's the longtime host pregame and
Speaker 1: postgame for Reds on radio. And he happens to be
Speaker 1: our very own spiritual leader. He's the goat. He's the
Speaker 1: one and only dave Yady arm Brewster. Yet, how are
Speaker 1: we doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, Chick, pretty good here in beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And before we get into some of the topics we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about. First off, you being mister ubiquitous,
Speaker 1: could you tell us about your travel itinerary here the
Speaker 1: last what twenty four to forty eight hours?
Speaker 2: Well, we were in beautiful Iowa City, Iowa, yesterday for
Speaker 2: the Xavier Iowa game, and I pulled in at I
Speaker 2: don't know two am. Hang back on the plane this
Speaker 2: say afternoon to Pittsburgh, so there and then home tomorrow
Speaker 2: sometime about eight o'clock. We'll start all over again.
Speaker 1: Yes we will. And things are a little bit somber
Speaker 1: around here following UCS thirty to twenty four loss to
Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcats today. But yeah, brutal, just brutal. The
Speaker 1: dreams of Dallas are fading quickly. But anyway, yd with
Speaker 1: all the college football, hey alternative programming, it's always a
Speaker 1: great time to talk Cincinnati Reds baseball, And looking at
Speaker 1: this starting rotation, it is deep, it is strong, and
Speaker 1: it appears that Nick Krawl and the powers that beat
Speaker 1: don't want to move anybody. They want to hoard all
Speaker 1: these great arms.
Speaker 2: I understand that. I don't know that they won't end
Speaker 2: up trading somebody. I mean, I think the last thing
Speaker 2: you want to do is you know, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 2: going to get rid of this guy. We're going to
Speaker 2: get rid of that guy.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: The all of talk was Hunter Green because he's got
Speaker 2: such a team friendly contract and he could probably bring
Speaker 2: the most of anybody. I see both sides of that.
Speaker 2: I would personally try to go get some offense. But boy,
Speaker 2: with the way people get hurt during the baseball season.
Speaker 2: You need depth in your starting rotation. And even though
Speaker 2: he seems to get hurt every year, it's nice they
Speaker 2: have Hunter Greens starting every fifth day.
Speaker 1: That is so true when you look back on this season,
Speaker 1: didn't it count for something that they made the playoffs
Speaker 1: and lost to the eventual world champion Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 2: For sure, I really did. I do think it's something.
Speaker 2: I mean, you play to make the postseason, so you
Speaker 2: go in and they get a little taste of the postseason.
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys have never been there, and
Speaker 2: I think that only helps for years to come. And
Speaker 2: I think during the course of the year, you kind
Speaker 2: of saw what Terry Francona is all about, how he
Speaker 2: manipulates guys around field what he wants from his players,
Speaker 2: and I think that only helps as they go into
Speaker 2: spring training next year. I still think they have a
Speaker 2: bunch of questions Marks Chick, I mean, the bullpen is now,
Speaker 2: you know, with Pegan leaving, with Nick Martinez leaving, Scott
Speaker 2: Barlow leaving, they have some holes in that bullpen that
Speaker 2: they need to fill. I'm not the biggest fan of
Speaker 2: BELLI David Cruz still playing shortstop, but right now, that's
Speaker 2: the plan. And maybe that's because they don't have anybody
Speaker 2: else or they can't go out and find somebody else.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. I mean they have, they still have problems.
Speaker 2: You're going to come into twenty six with maybe even
Speaker 2: a less than you had in one yenda twenty five
Speaker 2: because again, Martinez and Pagan were big parts of this
Speaker 2: team's bullpen.
Speaker 1: No doubt. And when you look at the starting rotation
Speaker 1: with Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott, Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer
Speaker 1: tossing Chase Burns there and possibly a Rep. Louder Man,
Speaker 1: what would this team have looked like if it wasn't
Speaker 1: missing Hunter Green for more than two months?
Speaker 2: Well, I agree, I agree, he is a difference maker.
Speaker 2: But you know what, well, they always say the best
Speaker 2: ability is availability, no doubt, And if you can't count
Speaker 2: on a guy, I mean, I don't know how you
Speaker 2: go forward. It's tough. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: He can't help some injuries, but man, I want guys
Speaker 2: that have gone out there and starting thirty two thirty
Speaker 2: three games. That's what they need. And you know, with
Speaker 2: Hunter Green that just hasn't happened again. You know, he's
Speaker 2: got the stuff, There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they add Brandon Williamson here and Juli and Aggie
Speaker 1: are they mentioned Chase Patty were still waiting for him
Speaker 1: to come on. So, like you are, so right, a
Speaker 1: lot of question marks. One of the pluses here, Wow
Speaker 1: the emergence here of Connor Phillips, and I've alway he's
Speaker 1: been a Tony Santion fan. If they can't acquire a
Speaker 1: closer man, Tony Santion or a grand ass Craft might
Speaker 1: be able to fill in that role. What do you
Speaker 1: think about that?
Speaker 2: I agree with that. I mean, I'd rather I want
Speaker 2: I mean and Santion close to handful of games, but
Speaker 2: I'd like to have somebody with a little more experience
Speaker 2: than that. But Tony Santion is unshakable as far as
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, So I wouldn't mind him going out there
Speaker 2: and close and probably not pitching in as many games
Speaker 2: as he did last year, because boy, by the end
Speaker 2: of the season, I'm sure he was wore out. Yes,
Speaker 2: he pitched a lot, but I do like him closing games.
Speaker 2: I mean, at the times he did it, he did
Speaker 2: a great job. So you know, maybe I want to
Speaker 2: get a little more experienced. But if you go into
Speaker 2: the season and that's who you have Tony Santion, I
Speaker 2: can live with that. You know, that's fine. It's you know,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. And I know, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody really likes fullpens by committee, even though
Speaker 2: they might say it at I think at some point
Speaker 2: you just have a guy and he's your guy. And
Speaker 2: that's what they did with Emilia Pagon last year, and
Speaker 2: they stuck with him and they did a great job.
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe they make Tony Santy on that
Speaker 2: guy in spring. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: And the emergence of Connor Phillips, you just hope that
Speaker 1: he can really continue where he let off because he
Speaker 1: was just awesome at the end of last season.
Speaker 2: Oh well, there's no question. And I also think, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, your good reports of what RHT Ladder has
Speaker 2: done in the Arizona Fall League. I guess he was
Speaker 2: in four appearances and pitched pretty well. You know that
Speaker 2: bodes well for this team too. I just think it's
Speaker 2: it's depth. It's depth. It's more depth, and they have
Speaker 2: some good arms and and you know, you get in
Speaker 2: there and pitch well and you look at the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: They here, their starting rotation is like twelve people deep.
Speaker 2: They just keep bringing guys up and up, and you
Speaker 2: need that. So I again, I liked. I liked what
Speaker 2: they have in the arms right now. I think at
Speaker 2: this point it's can you score.
Speaker 1: Some runs, no doubt. And listening to Tito Francone and
Speaker 1: it was great that he was mentioned. Gosha I'll finished
Speaker 1: second for the Manager of the Year award. That was
Speaker 1: that just terrific. He wants more depth on this team,
Speaker 1: and you know, to help out a guy like a TJ.
Speaker 1: Friedel in center field where he doesn't have to you know,
Speaker 1: they can rest him every once in a while. And
Speaker 1: possibly Elie de la Cruz. It looks like they're don't
Speaker 1: want to move him out of shortstop, so get him
Speaker 1: a little bit more rest hopefully and maybe the errors
Speaker 1: will subside.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, he can't go play one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty two games. He looked tired. So you know,
Speaker 2: if you be agm a couple of times a week
Speaker 2: and get him some rest, maybe that will cut down
Speaker 2: on the years. You know, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2: His offensive numbers really have to pick up I think
Speaker 2: next year, and I think this team's overall. We've talked
Speaker 2: about a lot and that's the power numbers. You better
Speaker 2: start hitting some home runs. You're playing in a bandbox
Speaker 2: in great American ballpark. Uh, you know, you just got
Speaker 2: to score more runs and put the ball out of
Speaker 2: the ballpark a little more too. And I think a
Speaker 2: lot of that falls on Ellie. I mean, he's if
Speaker 2: you're the star of this team, I want to see
Speaker 2: a little more power from you.
Speaker 1: This coming week at Middletown High School, Kyle Schwarber's coming
Speaker 1: back for a big shin dig at the high school.
Speaker 1: I think it's Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I I dream of having the guy in Cincinnati Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Ridge uniform. What would it mean? I know it's it's
Speaker 1: probably far fetched, you'd but what would The only thing
Speaker 1: I could kind of compare it to is, you know,
Speaker 1: would be the signing of a Ken Griffy junior. The
Speaker 1: excitement that that would degenerate among the fan base. I agree.
Speaker 2: It would be great to have him, no doubt about it,
Speaker 2: but they're not going to increase the role much. It
Speaker 2: sounds like from last year. So Kyle Schwarber is you
Speaker 2: know everything I'm reading he's looking at you know, four years,
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million. I'm not sure this team
Speaker 2: can do that. Now, if you're if you think you're
Speaker 2: close enough that you actually have a chance to go
Speaker 2: to the World Series and you can sign a you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a two year deal with him and pay him
Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, I'm okay with that, But
Speaker 2: they need more than one person. Check. I'd love to
Speaker 2: have him. I would love to have yeah, but you know,
Speaker 2: number one, he'd have to be the DH and then
Speaker 2: we got a team full of dhs. I just don't
Speaker 2: see him coming here. I hope, I'm shocked. I hope,
Speaker 2: I hope come to Winter meetings and all that. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the big signing is Kyle Schwerber comes
Speaker 2: back to Cincinnati. That would be awesome, you know, especially
Speaker 2: hitting here and his ballpark. He could he'll repeat what
Speaker 2: he did this year with the Phillies. But I just
Speaker 2: think there's going to be a bidding war on that guy,
Speaker 2: and ultimately I bet he stays in Philadelphia. I really do.
Speaker 1: Hey, if we could, could we take a trip around
Speaker 1: the lineup here. You know, your catcher is pretty well
Speaker 1: set here with Tyler Stevenson and Jose Travino. And yes
Speaker 1: they did add Ben Arvett from LA for some depth purposes.
Speaker 1: But looking at first base, and really it's the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room, is it South Stewart or Spencer Steer.
Speaker 2: Well, Spencer Steer is well runner up in Gold Gloves,
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer can really play the position. Spencer Steer's power
Speaker 2: numbers are just okay, so it can South Stewart add
Speaker 2: more of that because that's really the only place he's
Speaker 2: going to be able to play unless he phs and
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer, So you might lose a little bit at
Speaker 2: first base, Okay, if he can hit more home runs,
Speaker 2: I'm good with it. Spencer Steer can play left field
Speaker 2: and really not miss a beat, I think, and Terry
Speaker 2: Franccona likes guys that can move around, so I think
Speaker 2: Spencer Steeter can play multiple positions. I'd love to see
Speaker 2: him at first base, but I think with the team
Speaker 2: needing offense, I think you're moving where you have to moving.
Speaker 2: If that means that South Stewart's going to pop the
Speaker 2: ball out of the ballpark as he plays first base, and.
Speaker 1: We're all hoping that Matt McClain can rebound here at
Speaker 1: second base, see better.
Speaker 2: They need him, they need him to play better or
Speaker 2: down your offensively. I'll give him, you know, I'll give
Speaker 2: him partially because of the shoulder, But the guy had
Speaker 2: over five hundred at bats at some point. You know
Speaker 2: that's not an excuse anymore. So we you know, come
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, let's see what happens. But it'd be
Speaker 2: nice to have him there hitting like he was before.
Speaker 2: Then you talk about and McLain defensively is fine, not great. Fine.
Speaker 2: Then you talk about Ellie again needs to have more
Speaker 2: power and his defense has to improve at least marginally.
Speaker 2: It has to get a little bit better. Yes, And
Speaker 2: then you go to to Brian Hayes, great great defender,
Speaker 2: Gold Glove winner, Kenny hit enough out of power position
Speaker 2: this team. I know why they went out and got
Speaker 2: him because you know, you play some defense. They weren't
Speaker 2: going to score a lot of runs. You played defense
Speaker 2: to back up some good pitching. And it did help
Speaker 2: him get into the postseason. But Cabrian Hayes is what
Speaker 2: he is. He's not going to be the greatest hitter
Speaker 2: in the world. Book boy, can he play defense and
Speaker 2: especially with Elie next to him. That does help.
Speaker 1: It certainly does. And you know a guy like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's guys like without positions, kind of like a Gavin
Speaker 1: Lux who can DH. But man, what an adventure out
Speaker 1: in left field and even a second base. So but
Speaker 1: but a solid veteran that you'd love to have around.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no question about him. But you're you're
Speaker 2: right about defensively. I mean there's some deficiencies there, there's
Speaker 2: no question about that. But I like him, like having
Speaker 2: him in the lineup. And again he's a guy who
Speaker 2: with DH, he's a leader in the clubhouse, it seems.
Speaker 2: So it's good to have guys like that, you know.
Speaker 2: Then you know, let's talk about the outfield a little
Speaker 2: bit because Marte is going to play right field and
Speaker 2: I think he proved that he can and hit boy
Speaker 2: when they moved him off third base to right field.
Speaker 2: Did his offense come around? So hopefully that continues going
Speaker 2: into the new year.
Speaker 4: TJ.
Speaker 2: Friedel's in center. I think the wear and pay on
Speaker 2: center field might take a toll on him a little
Speaker 2: bit because he plays a lot again, not a whole
Speaker 2: lot of power there, A good guy to have I
Speaker 2: like to have him, and then the question mark is
Speaker 2: what do you do now in left field? Is it
Speaker 2: Spencer's year? You know, because you don't have Austin Hayes anymore?
Speaker 2: Do you go out and try to get another bat?
Speaker 2: Can this team afford to hit? You know, we talked
Speaker 2: about Schwarber, but can this team afford a guy that
Speaker 2: you know is going to hit thirty home rounds a year?
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I mean that's something that I'm
Speaker 2: sure the front office discussing right now. But you know,
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer doesn't hit a whole lot of home runs.
Speaker 2: Will Benson is an extra.
Speaker 1: Outfielder, that's what he Yeah, I was going to mention
Speaker 1: his name, you know, left field, right field, he's played,
Speaker 1: he played some center. Uh, he's been up and down. Uh,
Speaker 1: just looking for consistency out of Uh. The players love
Speaker 1: him and uh we wish he was that power guy
Speaker 1: that could that could help this club.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he is. I think they got
Speaker 2: to go outside and find somebody else that can be
Speaker 2: that power guy. Again, it's just it's limited payroll. It's
Speaker 2: hard man with when you get the you know, these
Speaker 2: teams offering these guys so much money. And I just
Speaker 2: don't think the Reds have the resources to do that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Again, if they if they think they are close where
Speaker 2: they can go deep into the playoffs in the World Series,
Speaker 2: then maybe you take a chance. Maybe you spend the money,
Speaker 2: but you got to spend it correctly, because we've seen,
Speaker 2: you know, we've seen him spend money before and it
Speaker 2: was just not well spent. Jam Or Candelario's of the world,
Speaker 2: the Mike Mustachus's of the world just didn't work out.
Speaker 2: So you know, let's see what happens during these winter
Speaker 2: meetings and up till you know, opening day in late March.
Speaker 1: Yid, we're going to take that twenty one million that
Speaker 1: Martinez Scott has a down payment for Kylish Warber.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in. I'm more than happy to take that.
Speaker 2: I would be great to have that dude, you know.
Speaker 2: And he he's just a good baseball player and a
Speaker 2: good guy to have on your team.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and then pack in the stadium, man, that's
Speaker 1: got to count for something.
Speaker 2: To the stadium for a while. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not going to you'll have a shorter effect like
Speaker 2: you did the Griffy effect, you know, for a while.
Speaker 2: But you better win there. You know they're not going
Speaker 2: to show up if if you keep losing games, that's
Speaker 2: not you know, it's it's it's there's only so many
Speaker 2: guys like show hey o'tani where you know, if he plays,
Speaker 2: there's going to pack the joint. Schreber might be one
Speaker 2: of those, you know, if he gets off to a
Speaker 2: good start and hit some bombs early in the season,
Speaker 2: if the red skinning. So, yeah, there is there is
Speaker 2: something to that. There's no question. I remember when Griffy
Speaker 2: came to tam Boy. Yeah, that place was packed those
Speaker 2: first couple of seasons just to see a guy that's
Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame. So maybe maybe that
Speaker 2: happens with shorebur as well. If they get him, that's
Speaker 2: a big giant if.
Speaker 1: Well, we saw Dave Roberts make every right move the
Speaker 1: last two nights of the of the World Series, and
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Tito Francona can get touched by an
Speaker 1: angel this year like Dave Roberts was. I'm still waiting
Speaker 1: for pot Has crashing into Key k Hernandez for the
Speaker 1: ball to pop loose and fall on the floor in
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays win, but just didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, But you know what, two
Speaker 2: teams aside, that was an incredible world series to watch
Speaker 2: it really, it was a fun world series.
Speaker 1: It certainly was. And the Reds they are at least
Speaker 1: fun and interesting and already looking forward to next season.
Speaker 1: You'd appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I am too. I'm pumped. I'm pumped for the
Speaker 2: first spring training is a game in Goodyear, Arizona on
Speaker 2: February twenty first against those dreadic Cleveland Guardians.
Speaker 1: All right, well, is there a chance you can bring
Speaker 1: home a victory tomorrow in Pittsburgh on this watershed.
Speaker 2: They're gonna win tomorrow. You just watch. They're gonna win.
Speaker 2: Just the defense has to play a little better, of course.
Speaker 2: But boy did Aaron Rodgers look like he was about
Speaker 2: sixty years old last week. Yes, so if they can
Speaker 2: continue that, you know, if they can put the pressure
Speaker 2: on him, they're gonna come home with a victory. And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you still got some hope.
Speaker 2: You don't win. I mean it's must win tomorrow. Check one,
Speaker 2: must win? Did you fall the three and seven?
Speaker 1: You're cooked? Absolutely? Yid always a pleasure, Thanks so much
Speaker 1: for taking time out to join us tonight. Appreciate you.
Speaker 2: You got it, sir, Talk to you lator, Chick.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That is Devit Armbrus, who Director of Sports
Speaker 1: Operations iHeartMedia Cincinnati and longtime host what four decades pregame
Speaker 1: and postgame on reds on radio. And this is Chick
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Speaker 1: gonna break down the Bengals victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: like a wrecking ball, and it's gonna be on ESPN
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Speaker 1: the one and only Bengals legend, jim Breech, Jimmy, how
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 2: Good? Check?
Speaker 6: How are you doing?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Fantastic? And once upon a time I asked a Bengals
Speaker 1: running back, Hey, is this a water shed game? And
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, man, it's gonna be hot out there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to drink a lot of water.
Speaker 4: But tomorrow maybe maybe he.
Speaker 1: Was right, that's exactly right. I think it was even
Speaker 1: a preseason game. But anyway, it truly is a watershed
Speaker 1: game tomorrow, Jimmy with the Steelers at five and four
Speaker 1: or the Bengals that's three and six. A victory draws
Speaker 1: the Bengals within one game of the division lead. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: it is a must win.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it actually is. Uh you know, but when you
Speaker 6: look at when you look at it, you know, if
Speaker 6: you they really we've got to get the defense together right,
Speaker 6: just get that defense playing, slowing teams down a little bit.
Speaker 6: But yes, I mean you look at the division We're
Speaker 6: right there. Just makes makes something. The positive happened on
Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball. Continue with the craziness
Speaker 6: the offense is playing. It's Uh, it's pretty amazing how
Speaker 6: well the offense is playing with Joe Flacco, you know what,
Speaker 6: really moving the ball easily.
Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, and just looking at some of
Speaker 1: the numbers, Uh, he's been phenomenal. And then even against
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in his career, twelve victories, thirty touchdown passes, and
Speaker 1: five fourth quarter comebacks. So Joe Flacco, what a blessing
Speaker 1: this guy has been for the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow being down, and he's done everything he possibly can
Speaker 1: do to help this team win.
Speaker 8: It's so true.
Speaker 6: And think about those numbers you just talked about earlier
Speaker 6: in his career when it was Baltimore Pittsburgh. Those are
Speaker 6: two of the best defenses in football in those games
Speaker 6: were so physical, and yet he was putting up great
Speaker 6: numbers even then.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And what a gamer. The guy is
Speaker 1: forty years old in playing at such a high level
Speaker 1: and it certainly helps to have Wow his weapons. Now
Speaker 1: he's down one here with Sama J. P Ryan being out,
Speaker 1: but when you can have man your two wide receivers
Speaker 1: in Jamar Chase and t Higgins and others with your
Speaker 1: tight ends, he's he's gonna beloving this offense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what wasn't After the first Pittsburgh game,
Speaker 6: he was talking to his brothers or something or his
Speaker 6: family and he was laughing about throwing to those guys
Speaker 6: and the catches they made and how easy it was.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I've got to imagine I can't think of
Speaker 6: a time. Maybe when he threw to Steve Smith, but
Speaker 6: that was toward the end of Steve Smith's career. I
Speaker 6: don't know if he's ever played with two guys in
Speaker 6: the prime of their career in an offense. You know
Speaker 6: that's capable of, you know, getting them the ball on
Speaker 6: the stamore on the field.
Speaker 1: You're right, and you know, looking at the injury report,
Speaker 1: And we had Debuty arm Brewster on at the top
Speaker 1: of the show and he said, the Bengals are gonna win.
Speaker 1: He's got me ready to run through a wall here
Speaker 1: and dare I say with with snot bubbles? He said,
Speaker 1: you watch the Bengals win tomorrow. Yeah, Burrow, Jermaine Burton,
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, Shamar Stewart placed on IR he's out for
Speaker 1: four games, and Sama jp Ryan being down. So you
Speaker 1: add all that up. Your two starting defensive ends are out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the Bengals win. Would that be just crazy, but
Speaker 1: it would be nice.
Speaker 6: It would be nice. But what I noticed there weren't
Speaker 6: any offensive linemen on there, and they're actually playing pretty well,
Speaker 6: and there's two young guys up front on the two
Speaker 6: guards are actually playing pretty well right now, So that's
Speaker 6: really encouraging. On the off the side of the ball.
Speaker 6: I liked some part of what they did against the
Speaker 6: Bears late. They were putting a lot of pressure on
Speaker 6: and Caleb Williams there at the end of the game
Speaker 6: and then he escaped and made that run and then
Speaker 6: the throw you know, down the middle of the field,
Speaker 6: But they were putting some pressure on him. So it's
Speaker 6: just put a little bit try and get some pressure.
Speaker 6: You rather way to get pressure. If you're not getting
Speaker 6: it normally, you got probably manufacture some ways. And then
Speaker 6: these guys have to cover their butts off. NODJ Turner's
Speaker 6: doing it. Yes, they turned it last time against DK
Speaker 6: metcalf Man. He just shut him down. If we can
Speaker 6: get a couple other guys doing similar type things, uh
Speaker 6: dives has a chance to do pretty well on the
Speaker 6: depth chart.
Speaker 1: It looks like Josh fig Newton has taken over uh
Speaker 1: one of the corners over Cam Taylor Britt. Who, man,
Speaker 1: you look at Cam Taylor Britt and I thought Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl potential and yet the inconsistency is striking. So Geno Stone,
Speaker 1: Jordan Battle your safeties, DJ Turner, Josh Newton, h Dax
Speaker 1: Hill as your your nickel corner. These guys have to
Speaker 1: step forward, and you hope that Joseph Osai and Gosh
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, BJ Hill, TJ. Slayton could get some kind
Speaker 1: of pressure on on uh On, the Steelers quarterback who
Speaker 1: is starting to show his age big.
Speaker 6: Time at times. He certainly didn't the last time the
Speaker 6: Bengals played him. So we'll see what happens this time.
Speaker 6: Hopefully what we saw the last couple of games is
Speaker 6: more like what we see tomorrow. So you know, it's
Speaker 6: interesting with Cam Taylor Brett. The potential is still there,
Speaker 6: but I think he's lost confidence because it's he has
Speaker 6: sets up and down plays. I mean it's not even games,
Speaker 6: it's from play to play and play a great play
Speaker 6: and then turn around and just completely look like he's
Speaker 6: completely lost on the play, on the covering of guy.
Speaker 6: So you know, you wonder you just don't know what's
Speaker 6: going on, but confidence so often is a huge thing
Speaker 6: when it comes to, you know, anything in general, but
Speaker 6: in sports in particular. If you lose a little bit
Speaker 6: of confidence and you're playing against world class athletes, as
Speaker 6: doesn't go well together.
Speaker 1: You're right. Jim Breech is with us. We'll be together
Speaker 1: tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana, from five
Speaker 1: thirty to eight thirty. Come on out, and if you
Speaker 1: can't make it, I hope you'll listen on Cincinnati's ESPN
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty and you'll call in. But it's not that
Speaker 1: tough to get there tomorrow, Jim. Just enter Indiana, take
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Speaker 6: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Ay check, Yes, sir.
Speaker 6: You know what else they could do tomorrow? They could tackle?
Speaker 1: Oh, wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 6: They could tackle. Yes, we're going to be tackling some wings.
Speaker 6: They need to be tackling some ball carriers.
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And gosh, everybody's piling on
Speaker 1: the Bengals, including all kinds of national celebrities, saying that
Speaker 1: the Bengals played their best defensive game last week. Because
Speaker 1: it was a bye But all jokes aside, the defense
Speaker 1: can step forward here and show some together with this offense,
Speaker 1: maybe they can pull off a victory tomorrow and really
Speaker 1: give this the franchise, the city, the region some hope
Speaker 1: going forward to get the four and six and one
Speaker 1: game away from the Steelers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ageah, you can only play the game in front
Speaker 6: of you, right, and there's no way you can't get
Speaker 6: up for a Pittsburgh Steeler game, So they'll be ready
Speaker 6: hostile environment. It's got of fun going in those kinds
Speaker 6: of environments, so it makes you stick together as a team.
Speaker 6: So I just hope the defense offense really come together
Speaker 6: and play with their exceptional games.
Speaker 1: And Jim, we all know how critical special teams are.
Speaker 1: And I know you're awfully proud of Evan McPherson's bounce
Speaker 1: back season this year. Hunter, Ryan Rico, Man, get it
Speaker 1: inside the twenty, don't keep kicking it into the end
Speaker 1: zone and bringing that ball out. So in Charlie Jones
Speaker 1: showing some gosh some chucky sizzle there, which yeas he's
Speaker 1: pretty good that, yes he is. And I remember Tremaine
Speaker 1: Mac talking about following the color and the Bengals helmets
Speaker 1: when he's running back kicks and uh just strange that way.
Speaker 1: And uh, Charlie Jones has a knack for for being
Speaker 1: able to get get through openings. And I don't like
Speaker 1: it when he runs totally across the field. But man,
Speaker 1: hit it up in there and uh with your speed
Speaker 1: and get after it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, it's about going up the field,
Speaker 6: you know, as well as like you go east and
Speaker 6: west and Nafali not going to get very far. I
Speaker 6: don't care who, maybe Barry Sanders, But apart from that,
Speaker 6: it's hard to do. And Charlie does a good job
Speaker 6: of that. And you know, you keep hitting it up
Speaker 6: there f I a little crease and pop it and
Speaker 6: you know, break a tackle or two and you got
Speaker 6: a chance to although the one he scored on I
Speaker 6: don't know if he even got touched. Yeah, they did
Speaker 6: such a great job of blocking well. And then you
Speaker 6: gotta do the same on the other side. You got
Speaker 6: to you gotta cover the kicks, keep them. If you
Speaker 6: can keep them inside the thirty, you know, close to
Speaker 6: twenty five, then you can create some you know, additional
Speaker 6: yardage on your apart make them go farther for touchdowns
Speaker 6: and field goals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, zat Taylor talked about the DBS being one step
Speaker 1: away or that, you know, the defenders, and man, we
Speaker 1: all know Jim. One step in the National Football League
Speaker 1: might as well be a mile. Yeah, that's how good
Speaker 1: these are. It's yeah, that's how good they are.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know if he's I'm sure
Speaker 6: he's watching. I know he's watching the same game. But
Speaker 6: there have been so many games where guys are running
Speaker 6: wide open. You know, i'd be I think most people
Speaker 6: be fine if there's only a step, but they're making
Speaker 6: a play on the ball. But too often they're not.
Speaker 6: There's nobody around receivers, and when they do catch the ball,
Speaker 6: they have too much room to make a play. It's
Speaker 6: hard to tackle a guy in the open field. If
Speaker 6: you get him right when he catches the ball, it's
Speaker 6: a lot easier to get him down. But if you're
Speaker 6: three or four yards away from him. So yeah, I
Speaker 6: hope we see a lot of that where guys are
Speaker 6: only a step away or half a step, or you know,
Speaker 6: are fighting.
Speaker 2: For the ball.
Speaker 6: That would be great, and keep everything in front of him.
Speaker 6: They'll be all right.
Speaker 1: And Jim is an alum living in town. I know
Speaker 1: how much this means to you and you're you're compatriots
Speaker 1: for the Bengals to go into Pittsburgh and defeat the Steelers.
Speaker 6: Chick anytime the team can beat any team from the
Speaker 6: from the division, and I particularly I have a chance
Speaker 6: to do it twice. That's just icing on the cake. Yes, sir,
Speaker 6: love beating those teams.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, they do that tomorrow and they'll be three and
Speaker 1: oh in the division. It's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, change the pace from the previous few years and
Speaker 6: just have to have a close over the last several
Speaker 6: weeks like they have last few years.
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Caleb Williams and the Bears have
Speaker 1: never had in their long and story history a four
Speaker 1: thousand yard passer and Caleb Williams could be that guy
Speaker 1: this year and who launched his career the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're used to launching careers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, those guys, those unknown guys are or young guys
Speaker 6: do well against the Bengals. Yes, over the years, it's.
Speaker 4: Not like just this year, but over many years.
Speaker 1: Yes. Well, Jimmy, looking forward to tomorrow and being with
Speaker 1: you and at the Greendale, Indiana Wings and Rings from
Speaker 1: five thirty to eight thirty. We'll break down a Bengals
Speaker 1: victory like a wrecking ball tomorrow. Don Drake Check, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us tonight. Appreciate you all right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, looking forward to im seeing it tomorrow and spend
Speaker 6: a little of time talking about Bengal when.
Speaker 1: Yes, how sweet it will be. Thanks so much, Jimmy,
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Speaker 1: is tonight's producer, and like Eric Carmon and the Raspberries,
Speaker 1: we are going all the way to nine o'clock tonight.
Speaker 1: And Jason Williams Cincinnati dot Com The Inquirer taken you
Speaker 1: from nine to midnight tonight. Well, today didn't start off
Speaker 1: so well. Noon kickoff in front of an incredible crowd
Speaker 1: at the Wrigley Field of College Football, Knippert Stadium. I
Speaker 1: was pumped, the crowd was pumped. You see, had two
Speaker 1: weeks to prepare for the Arizona Wildcats and on the
Speaker 1: very first play of this game on offense, Brandon Soorsby
Speaker 1: throws an interception. Do you see Bearcats lose to the
Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcats thirty to twenty four. And I want to
Speaker 1: bring in tonight's producer, University of Cincinnati grad Sean McMahon.
Speaker 1: All I can think of, Sean, is a missed opportunity.
Speaker 1: And what might have been for the UC Bearcats.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a stinger today for sure, But by no
Speaker 10: means is this a bad loss in the sense that
Speaker 10: you see lost to a bad team. I mean, Arizona
Speaker 10: is a very respectable program, very respectable team.
Speaker 1: This year.
Speaker 10: They've got some pretty good wins. They had the Arizona
Speaker 10: State win earlier this year. They also went I think
Speaker 10: they went I'm sorry they were at home against Hawaii,
Speaker 10: but they they had a I take it back, David
Speaker 10: lost to Iowa State as well. I thought they won
Speaker 10: that game, but they had beat Kansas State. They went
Speaker 10: out dominated Colorado. They went out and beat Kansas yep,
Speaker 10: twenty four to twenty. You know that's that was a
Speaker 10: six and three team coming into Nippert And you know,
Speaker 10: I hope I don't think anybody was necessarily overlooking Arizona,
Speaker 10: but it kind of feels like some people maybe looking
Speaker 10: forward to the BYU game and focusing on the Big
Speaker 10: twelve championship.
Speaker 1: Not that the team was per se, but you know,
Speaker 1: this is a really this was a really good team.
Speaker 10: Brent Brennan's got a good thing going with his program
Speaker 10: out there for Arizona, and you know, they just they
Speaker 10: just had the They just had UC's number today, and
Speaker 10: Brendan Soorsby didn't have his strongest game. He was playing
Speaker 10: on a bit of a bad angle. He got tackled
Speaker 10: in the second half, yes, and you could see he
Speaker 10: wass He was visibly limping throughout most of the second half.
Speaker 10: So that kind of limits, you know, the way that
Speaker 10: you can play the game, because a big part of
Speaker 10: UC's offense is Brendan Sorosby being able to get outside
Speaker 10: the pocket and run down field when there's nothing down there.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you limit the offense that way,
Speaker 1: it can hurt a lot.
Speaker 10: And it was pretty clear that without Evan pryor without
Speaker 10: Brendan Soorsby being able to run, that really stifled them
Speaker 10: in the second in the second half. And it's kind
Speaker 10: of been a problem with UC all year in the
Speaker 10: second half is their offense has just kind of gone dormant,
Speaker 10: especially in the third quarter, especially right the third quarter. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 10: today it was the second quarter. They had zero points.
Speaker 10: They came out the gates, you know, struggling with an interception,
Speaker 10: but then they came right back on the field, scored
Speaker 10: a touchdown, tied the game up, and then from there
Speaker 10: it was off to the races, and unfortunately Arizona just
Speaker 10: had the better of them today. I got to give
Speaker 10: credit to Arizona's defense. They're one of the best actually
Speaker 10: in the country. They got a really good quarterback and
Speaker 10: Noah Fafida. They got good wide receivers, So you know,
Speaker 10: that's that's a good team. And yeah, like you were
Speaker 10: telling me earlier, chick hopes of Dallas fading for the
Speaker 10: Cats quickly, it's not totally over, but you know, with
Speaker 10: two games left in the season, it's not looking great
Speaker 10: for you see in terms of the Big Twelve championship hopes.
Speaker 10: But I got to say being seven and three beats
Speaker 10: the heck out of being three in eight or three
Speaker 10: and seven.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been tough the last couple of seasons
Speaker 1: for the Bearcats, but you.
Speaker 10: Know, to be back in the position that they're in
Speaker 10: right now, I'm happy to see the programs doing well.
Speaker 10: I'm happy to see fans enjoying the excitement of this
Speaker 10: team because I think there is a lot to celebrate
Speaker 10: about this year's team. But doesn't make smaller and today's
Speaker 10: loss any easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the twenty fifth ranked Bearcats will no doubt drop
Speaker 1: out of the top twenty five. They are bull eligible,
Speaker 1: which is a huge positive. I think the arrow is
Speaker 1: pointing up with this program. I'm hoping brendan swersby sticks
Speaker 1: around next year and doesn't go pro. Although the quarterback
Speaker 1: class is not that great, he would definitely get drafted.
Speaker 1: But I would love to see them come back and
Speaker 1: just continue to see this program improve. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the Big twelve standings right now, and there
Speaker 1: are six teams really within a game of one another
Speaker 1: with either one or two losses, and the Bearcats are
Speaker 1: among them. And they will host BYU next week and
Speaker 1: then go to TCU. They have to win both. It'll
Speaker 1: take a miracle to get to Dallas. But hope springs eternal.
Speaker 1: It's just a missed opportunity today after going up fourteen
Speaker 1: to seven, and then yeah, having opportunities to score they
Speaker 1: weren't able to. And then Arizona scored on their final
Speaker 1: five possessions starting late second quarter.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and another thing too, chick, and this is kind
Speaker 10: of what killed you see today, was the fact that
Speaker 10: they just couldn't get a stop. Their defense just couldn't
Speaker 10: get off the field. I got to have credit to
Speaker 10: the d line I thought they held up pretty well today.
Speaker 10: They got to know Fafiita quite a bit, but when
Speaker 10: it came to those third and long situations, they just
Speaker 10: kept giving them up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 10: Their corners were just getting burned left and right. And
Speaker 10: a lot of that is credit to Noah Fafida as
Speaker 10: a quarterback for Arizona, you know, because he was just
Speaker 10: putting the ball in the right spot. His receivers were
Speaker 10: making pretty darn good catches. So Chris Hudson was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Noah Fafita twenty three of thirty one, a
Speaker 1: touchdown and two hundred and ninety four yards, And there
Speaker 1: was a point in the third quarter I believe where
Speaker 1: Brendan Sowersby had only thrown for thirty eight yards. They
Speaker 1: were running the ball awfully well in the first half.
Speaker 1: And then I gotta say this, Sean McMahon, I'm just
Speaker 1: not a fan of the three three five defense of
Speaker 1: the UC Bearcats. Yeah, if you could push a defensive end, okay,
Speaker 1: push him, crease him, and then a guard getting to
Speaker 1: that outside linebacker, man, it's off to the races. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcats were able to rush for one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty one yards and passed for two ninety four
Speaker 1: and gash the bear catch for four hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five yards, and you see limited to one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty four yards passing. They did run for one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety, but most of that was in the first half.
Speaker 1: And you're right, they couldn't get off the field on
Speaker 1: third down. You see three of twelve on third down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eight for sixteen for Arizona and they converted like their
Speaker 1: last five and they nearly burned the last six minutes
Speaker 1: off the clock.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and another thing too, chick, I think the UC
Speaker 10: special teams had a pretty good day today. Mason Fletcher
Speaker 10: had had a Max Fletcher rather sorry that's his Mason's
Speaker 10: his older brother who was here. Max Fletcher had a
Speaker 10: pretty good game. He had a punt that was down
Speaker 10: at the one yard line and Arizona just wait ninety
Speaker 10: nine yards. Yes, yeah, they just went the length of
Speaker 10: the field and that's you know, that's important for them
Speaker 10: because they want to drain the clock and or but
Speaker 10: also you know, you see had a blocked field goal
Speaker 10: first time since twenty twenty two they've had one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 10: that's big and they Arizona also missed a field goal
Speaker 10: on their prior attempt, So two straight field goals that
Speaker 10: don't go Arizona's way.
Speaker 1: Things are looking good for Uce early.
Speaker 10: But you know, it's just a tough football team to
Speaker 10: go up against an Arizona, And it's just the nature
Speaker 10: of the Big Twelve. You know, you can never overlook
Speaker 10: any opponent that you play. Not that anybody was overlooking Arizona,
Speaker 10: but you know, they're not in the rankings, they're not
Speaker 10: in any playoff hunt, they're not in the Big twelve
Speaker 10: championship hunt. You know, they're just a good football team.
Speaker 10: And I don't think it was a bad loss again
Speaker 10: in the sense that it was a bad team. It
Speaker 10: was just a bad loss in the sense that you
Speaker 10: could have won the game had a couple of things
Speaker 10: gone your way, had you played a little bit differently.
Speaker 10: And going back to the three three five defense chickster,
Speaker 10: I am not. I'm not a defensive coordinator. I don't
Speaker 10: pretend to be. I don't know x's and o's of
Speaker 10: football quite as well as other people may. But you know,
Speaker 10: I missed the days of watching four down linemen. Yes
Speaker 10: with UC under Luke Fickle and having you know, maybe
Speaker 10: running a four two five, and then you know, I
Speaker 10: miss the days of having good cornerbacks too.
Speaker 1: It just was not their day today.
Speaker 10: And when you know, when your corners aren't holding it down,
Speaker 10: it's hard for your defensive line to do to do
Speaker 10: their job too, when they're only rushing so many and
Speaker 10: every time they did blitz. Noah, f Alfida just had
Speaker 10: an answer. He just had a guy in the open
Speaker 10: because you know, the corners for UC just kept getting beat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He looked like a combination Kyle Kyle Murray, Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and Michael Vick out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Noah Fafda just just fantastic. And gosh, Michael Salgado Medina
Speaker 1: Medina the Fueld goal kicker, after having a miss then
Speaker 1: a block, he busts that fifty one yarder. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: a buck thirty four to go he had he missed
Speaker 1: that you see, would have been in great field because
Speaker 1: to either come down and either tie it or even
Speaker 1: go ahead and win it with a touchdown. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Salgado Medina busted that fifty one yarder and that that hurt.
Speaker 10: Yeah, in that environment, and you know after the day
Speaker 10: he was having up to that point for him to
Speaker 10: come out and kick a fifty one yarder, I mean
Speaker 10: that takes guts and he had it on that kick,
Speaker 10: So props to him, you know. It just it was
Speaker 10: a tough football game and then Bearcats did not come
Speaker 10: out on top, and like you said, they'll fall out
Speaker 10: of the top twenty five. They're likely out of the
Speaker 10: Big twelve championship race. But you know, I think there's
Speaker 10: a lot of upside to this season. You know, if
Speaker 10: you think about it, there if they're one play away
Speaker 10: from beating Nebraska, so they could still be they could
Speaker 10: have still been seven and two had that game gone
Speaker 10: their way. Yeah, this is a good team, it's not
Speaker 10: a great team. You will see how much gas they
Speaker 10: have left in the tank with two games left. For me, chickster,
Speaker 10: I'm just excited if they can make the Pop Tard
Speaker 10: Bowl the best bowl game outside of the college football Playoff,
Speaker 10: I'd be thrilled with a Pop Tart bull appearance.
Speaker 1: Well, and what what we saw today was the Arizona
Speaker 1: Wildcats basically copying what the Utah did to him. Uh,
Speaker 1: pressure and single coverage on the outside and we're coming
Speaker 1: after you. So yeah, it's uh, it's a copycat football.
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 10: And you can and you can tell you see his
Speaker 10: offense missus Evan Pryor in the backfield too. Having Tawie
Speaker 10: Walker is great. I love Tywie Walker. I think he's
Speaker 10: a great running back. But I think having Evan Pryor,
Speaker 10: as you know, kind of your speed running back kind
Speaker 10: of it does add another limitation to your offense because
Speaker 10: you know with him you can you can run a
Speaker 10: lot more speedy based plays, whereas with Tylie Walker he's
Speaker 10: more of a power back. So you know, just what
Speaker 10: else can you say other than it was a tough game.
Speaker 10: Stings to lose, but you got to gear up and
Speaker 10: get ready for BYU next week.
Speaker 1: We we don't know when that's kicking off.
Speaker 2: Still.
Speaker 10: I think this is strange that we're a week out
Speaker 10: and we still don't know what time that game kicks off.
Speaker 1: I don't get that. I feel like we used to
Speaker 1: know weeks in advance. Oh I know, and I hope
Speaker 1: it's uh. I hope it's a nip at night on Saturday.
Speaker 1: And one positive here is true. Freshman Zion Johnson seven
Speaker 1: carries forty two yards. He scored a touchdown. He had
Speaker 1: a long run of twenty one and he did some
Speaker 1: nice things out there and showed some incredible burst and
Speaker 1: along with Tywee Walker. So yes, Ion Johnson, I hope
Speaker 1: he sticks around, Yes, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And it's it stinks to see too that you don't
Speaker 10: see Joe Royer getting the ball more. But it's just
Speaker 10: because the defenses know that if they can shut him
Speaker 10: down again that you can add another limitation to use
Speaker 10: these offense through the air. But you know, Joe Royer
Speaker 10: is a great part of the offense. It's just that
Speaker 10: defense has figured out they got to shut him down
Speaker 10: at all costs, because if you don't, it's going to
Speaker 10: be a problem.
Speaker 1: One catch for eight yards, I don't care if you've
Speaker 1: got to throw it tight end screen. Get the ball
Speaker 1: to this guy, Get it to the Elderman to our
Speaker 1: fellow Elder, Gred And speaking of Elder, as bad as
Speaker 1: we are bumming about the UC Bearcats, we are still
Speaker 1: riding high after a incredible what was it thirty two
Speaker 1: thirty two thirty last night? Elder overcoming a twenty three
Speaker 1: to nothing deficit to the awesome Princeton Vikings last night,
Speaker 1: and how Elder pulled that game out in front of
Speaker 1: that crowd at the pit. I mean, people were talking
Speaker 1: about the Molar game this year being the greatest game
Speaker 1: they had seen in a long time. This topped it
Speaker 1: last night. I think it did. I think it did.
Speaker 10: I didn't think it was possible. But in a playoff scenario,
Speaker 10: you know, it's got to have it. It's winner, go home,
Speaker 10: even though you're at home. You know, to have to
Speaker 10: be down twenty three to zero after the kickoff of
Speaker 10: the second half, come back, tie it up. You go
Speaker 10: down to kick a game winning field goal. It gets blocked.
Speaker 10: This is Elder, of course, Eldred has the kick blocked.
Speaker 10: Princeton returns it for a touchdown. You're thinking, okay, that
Speaker 10: that might be it. Right there, that's probably it because
Speaker 10: there's about a minute and a half left when that happened,
Speaker 10: or so thirty to twenty three at that point, thirty
Speaker 10: to twenty three, and then Elder storms down the field,
Speaker 10: you know, seventy plus yard touchdown pass Yep from Estep
Speaker 10: would shout out to that kid. He's been phenomenal for
Speaker 10: Elder a quarterback this year. But to Jackson Ruth, yeah,
Speaker 10: yeah and huge, And you know I was telling you
Speaker 10: this earlier, chickster, But you got to give credit to
Speaker 10: the players for not mentally checking out and for fighting
Speaker 10: all the way to the end, because you go down,
Speaker 10: you tie it up, and then you go you somehow
Speaker 10: recover an on side kick after your special teams has
Speaker 10: not been good all day. Yeah, you go get the
Speaker 10: field goal, you take the lead, you recover another on
Speaker 10: side kick to seal the deal. I mean, one of
Speaker 10: the more unbelievable wins I think I've seen in a
Speaker 10: high school football game.
Speaker 1: No doubt about. And after the bottom of the hour news,
Speaker 1: we're going to welcome in Greg Schoemaker of Tri Statefootball
Speaker 1: dot Com and he's already got the pairings out for
Speaker 1: me for our discussion. The Wayne Warriors will face the
Speaker 1: Middletown Middies and the Saint X Bombers will collide with
Speaker 1: the Elder Panthers, who are twelve and oh for the
Speaker 1: first time in their storied football history. How about it?
Speaker 10: How about it twelven and you don't lose it the
Speaker 10: pit this year and you're twelve and oh for the
Speaker 10: first time in history.
Speaker 1: And man, things are looking good for him. Let's just
Speaker 1: hope they can keep it rolling. No doubt. And it's
Speaker 1: so cool to go online and see people from all
Speaker 1: over the country, maybe even over the all over the
Speaker 1: world watching the Elder Panthers and the Chickster was listening
Speaker 1: on Sacred Heart Radio last night when I saw that score.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm following it. It just to twenty
Speaker 1: three to fifteen. I'm all over it listening. And then
Speaker 1: they tie it down score a touchdown, can't get the
Speaker 1: two point conversion, but get the on side kick and
Speaker 1: then a field goal to win it. Crazy, amazing.
Speaker 10: Very credit to the players man like I said, not
Speaker 10: checking out after being down and just played to the
Speaker 10: last whistle and they did.
Speaker 1: That's right. And to Doug Ramsey and his staff, yeah,
Speaker 1: for keeping him upbeat, no doubt. Well, this has been
Speaker 1: an awful lot of fun. Sean McMahon. We really appreciate
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Speaker 1: In our next guest, nobody covers high school football like
Speaker 1: Greg Shoemaker, the director of operations for tristatefootball dot Com.
Speaker 1: He joins us now, Greg, we've all experienced some great
Speaker 1: evenings of high school football. Where does last night rank?
Speaker 1: It's got to be in your top five.
Speaker 2: Man, Chick.
Speaker 8: You know you're sitting here.
Speaker 4: You guys are elder guys.
Speaker 8: And that was a great finish. I was over at
Speaker 8: Indian Hill and watching that Calf game. That one was
Speaker 8: just as crazy, which is crazy plays all over the place.
Speaker 8: One of those fun nights.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8: It was funny because there was a play in the
Speaker 8: Indian Hill game where Taff was getting ready to score
Speaker 8: early in the game and they fumbled the ball on
Speaker 8: like the three yard line kid from Indian Hill picks
Speaker 8: it up, runs it almost a complete length of the
Speaker 8: floor before the turf Monster getsing and he drops the football.
Speaker 8: Taff recovers it on the two, turns around, runs ninety
Speaker 8: eight yards on the next play for his score. I'm
Speaker 8: sitting there talking to the referees on the sideline and
Speaker 8: they're like, I've never seen anything like this, and the
Speaker 8: other guy just, well, you stick around a long and
Speaker 8: if you can find something you've.
Speaker 2: Never seen before.
Speaker 11: It was just one of those nights.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 8: I mean, wow, what an ending to a lot of
Speaker 8: great games, for sure.
Speaker 1: No doubt. And Saint Savior takes down Mighty Molor seventeen
Speaker 1: to thirteen to advance, and then to have Elder down
Speaker 1: Greg twenty three to nothing early third quarter after a
Speaker 1: kickoff return for touchdown, and then they have Elder battleback
Speaker 1: tie it. Then a seventy one yard block field goal
Speaker 1: return for the Princeton Vikings. Elder answers with a seventy
Speaker 1: five yard hookup, but they missed the two point conversion,
Speaker 1: but then get the on sidekick and then eventually a
Speaker 1: twenty two yard field goal followed by another on sidekick
Speaker 1: that they recover and Elder wins thirty two to thirty,
Speaker 1: erasing a twenty three to nothing deficit. Just absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 8: Let's talk about Elder for a minute. When the season started,
Speaker 8: nobody thought they were going to be at this position.
Speaker 8: Twelve to zero, first time in school history, fourth ever
Speaker 8: undefeated regular season in school history, first since nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 8: This team, chick has they're twelve to oh. They have
Speaker 8: seven wins against teams that have nine wins or more
Speaker 8: on the season, another win against a team that has
Speaker 8: eight wins, another team against that has seven wins, and
Speaker 8: two teams that finished the year at six and six.
Speaker 8: This team has won. And wait and all those wins
Speaker 8: only two of them they have to two point wins
Speaker 8: and that everything else is eight points or more. The
Speaker 8: victories for Elder in this season very very impressive resume.
Speaker 6: So they know how to get it done.
Speaker 8: And I mean this, This is going to be an
Speaker 8: unbelievable battle against st X on next Friday night.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Do we know where the game is going to be played?
Speaker 8: I do not know that yet. The only one I
Speaker 8: know for sure is the Division four game Valevue and
Speaker 8: Indian Hill will be at Fairfield. That's the only one
Speaker 8: I've seen it come across. So OHSAA hasn't announced that yet.
Speaker 8: I would imagine that.
Speaker 12: Game will be I would.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if it's at Welcome Stadium.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and after Elder defeated Saint X and Moler
Speaker 1: back to back, I'm there, Hey, you're gonna run into
Speaker 1: one of these guys again, you know, in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And so the number three seed Saint Xavier bombers at
Speaker 1: nine and two against the number one seed Elder Panthers
Speaker 1: twelve and zero. Wow, what can we expect from this thing?
Speaker 1: It's crazy?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So you know, and it's funny. I didn't get
Speaker 8: back to something on on Friday night's win. Last night's
Speaker 8: win for Elder, Elder wore down Princeton.
Speaker 2: In that game, they ran.
Speaker 8: Eighty five offensive plays and princidentally ran like forty two
Speaker 8: or forty three. So and in the first matchup this year,
Speaker 8: Elder won the game I think twenty three thirteen. They
Speaker 8: won by ten. Kataney stepped the quarterback there. He had
Speaker 8: his way running and throwing the football. Saint x is
Speaker 8: going to have to contain him. Sat X sauts star
Speaker 8: Daniel Ballmer. He's he's he's playing three games now against Elder.
Speaker 8: He's a Vanderbilt committee's going to play linebacker there. But
Speaker 8: and it's three games against the Elder. In his career,
Speaker 8: he's averaged two hundred and twenty nine all purpose yards
Speaker 8: per game. He had two hundred and eighty one yards
Speaker 8: rushing as a sophomore, and then he's had like, you know,
Speaker 8: sixty to seventy yards in three games against him receiving
Speaker 8: the football. He's return kicks in these games. So both teams,
Speaker 8: you know, Stants is going to have to contain Eastep
Speaker 8: and Elder's going to have to contain Volmer if they're
Speaker 8: going to get through. Either one is going to get
Speaker 8: through the next game. So it would be very very
Speaker 8: interesting to see how that goes. But right now, I mean, gosh,
Speaker 8: Moeler gave or sat Next gave up four hundred and
Speaker 8: nine yards to Molar last last night and still ended
Speaker 8: up winning that game, only allowing them three opportunities to score,
Speaker 8: and two of those were field goal attempts by Jack Malabar,
Speaker 8: the Molar kicker, who was who's been fantastic all season.
Speaker 8: He had another couple of great field goals last night
Speaker 8: for the Crusaders and the loss.
Speaker 1: Wow. And Division one Region two. Wayne defeated Troy last night.
Speaker 1: That game was on Spectrum in my area. And then
Speaker 1: they faced the Middletown Midies. Wow. What a job Middletown
Speaker 1: has done rebuilding that program.
Speaker 8: Yeah, College Jones. Two years ago he led with Road
Speaker 8: to the regional championship game and they lost that one.
Speaker 8: But I mean you know here, two years later, he
Speaker 8: rebuilds the Middletown program. Middletown's given up just seven point
Speaker 8: six points per game and four shutouts in their last
Speaker 8: nine games. They've been fantastic defensively. They got guys all
Speaker 8: over the field. And we talked about Daniel Ballmer being
Speaker 8: a versatile player for Saint Xavier. Jordan Vans that same
Speaker 8: sort of player for Middletown. He does a lot of
Speaker 8: different things and a lot of different areas and can
Speaker 8: win a game for you. Now, Wayne, they were in
Speaker 8: the regional championship last year and lost to league rival
Speaker 8: Centerville in that game. They know how to play in
Speaker 8: this game. Their sophomore quarterback how well her Uh. It'll
Speaker 8: be interesting to see how he bears in this They've
Speaker 8: got a fantastic wide receiver in Jamior Avertt Brown. He
Speaker 8: had I think six touches last night and almost two
Speaker 8: hundred dollar purpose yards. He had a rushing touchdown and
Speaker 8: a punt return for a touchdown. He's a junior, but
Speaker 8: he's already committed to Ohio State, and he is one
Speaker 8: of those early nil money guys in high school. He's
Speaker 8: making some big bucks already. He's the first of what's
Speaker 8: to come here, and it's sort of it's sort of
Speaker 8: interesting to follow this tat because he's breaking the ground
Speaker 8: and watching him.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm looking at uh gosh, Jeremiah Smith clone in
Speaker 1: a way, a younger, a younger version he's that. He's
Speaker 1: that impressive. And Wayne coached by Roosevelt Mukes, a Wayne
Speaker 1: grad and University of Cincinnati former star. So love Rosie
Speaker 1: up there at Huber Heights Wayne, And one last time, yeah,
Speaker 1: one last.
Speaker 8: Kylie Jones as a Middletown head coach is also a
Speaker 8: Wayne graduate as well, so it's a homecoming for him
Speaker 8: in that ball game.
Speaker 1: Incredible. And one last thing here about elder Man, a
Speaker 1: shout out to the players for not giving up at
Speaker 1: twenty three to nothing and the staff of Ramsey, Doug
Speaker 1: Ramsey just a phenomenal job.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and those guys have been there forever. It's great
Speaker 8: to see Doug having a year like this thirty years
Speaker 8: into his career. It's uh, you know, I mean, it's
Speaker 8: it's a special time. And man, that defense, we didn't
Speaker 8: talk about it, but Derrick gran and the player of
Speaker 8: the year in the Southwest District and Division one on
Speaker 8: defense of Virginia commit. He's had a fantastic year. But
Speaker 8: they're linebackers. They got Fort Camps and Dugan on there
Speaker 8: too as well. That's a that's a fantastic group. And
Speaker 8: I think there's a Turner kid over there in that
Speaker 8: linebacker mix than Those linebackers are about as good MDEP
Speaker 8: as you can get. That's what makes them so special.
Speaker 8: They have a room really good defense and they don't
Speaker 8: let stuff behind him at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In Kentucky, we're into the third round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: In Indiana, we've got the semi state going on. Man
Speaker 1: Milin just wanted second regional title in school history last
Speaker 1: time nineteen ninety six host in South putting them so.
Speaker 1: A lot of great football around the tri State great Shoemaker.
Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, and the Milin story is a great story.
Speaker 8: You know, we know them from Hoosiers and that basketball story,
Speaker 8: but they're writing their own little Hoosier chapter over here.
Speaker 8: They're head coach Ryan Langerman. He's in his eighteenth season
Speaker 8: there and he was on that team that won in
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety six the re or the regional championship. He's
Speaker 8: got two sons, a junior Grant who's a great defensive
Speaker 8: player and a freshman Beckett, who has just who went
Speaker 8: over a thousand yards rushing last night as a freshman.
Speaker 8: So he's got two kids on the team. Great story
Speaker 8: right there, and I can't wait to follow that one
Speaker 8: all week because somebody's going to get out there and
Speaker 8: catch that one. It's a great story.
Speaker 2: To be told.
Speaker 8: The lang for Menzon and Myland Indians football for sure.
Speaker 1: And Greg Shoemaker with us from tristatefootball dot com. He
Speaker 1: is the director of operations. Nobody covers high school football
Speaker 1: like Greg and his crew. And man, I'm looking around
Speaker 1: Kentucky here and some usual suspects Highlands, Cuvecath, Beachwood Man.
Speaker 1: Great programs.
Speaker 2: Really are?
Speaker 8: I mean if Highlands and CUBCAF win. They're going to
Speaker 8: be facing each other next week for a chance to
Speaker 8: get to the state championships. I'd be a final four matchup.
Speaker 8: In Class four A Lloyd twelve and zero for the
Speaker 8: first time since nineteen ninety five. Fantastic here for them
Speaker 8: as well, and Beachwood. Beachwoods averaging fifty plus points per game.
Speaker 8: And in Class two A it's nothing but Juggernauts left
Speaker 8: Belfree and Mayfield and Beachwood just the best of the
Speaker 8: best in Division or Class two A there in Kentucky, and.
Speaker 1: Once again for the folks out there Division one Wayne
Speaker 1: against Middletown sainte X against Elder and in Division two
Speaker 1: Trotwood Madison, the Rams in their principal, Michael McCrae. God
Speaker 1: I covered him when he played up at Dunbar back
Speaker 1: in the day. He's the principal now at TM and
Speaker 1: they are eight and three going up against the Anderson
Speaker 1: Raptors twelve and oh incredible. And the Valley Vue Spartans
Speaker 1: right there in Germantown, home of one Kyle Schwarber eleven
Speaker 1: and one going against Indian Hill the Braves at twelve
Speaker 1: and oh so man still some undefeated's out there, Greg.
Speaker 8: Yeah, some good stuff out there, by the way. Mike McCrae,
Speaker 8: I saw him in that state championship game at senior
Speaker 8: year at Dayton Dunbar and his son. Mike's, yes, a
Speaker 8: recruiting coordinator up at UMass Now when he was in
Speaker 8: there at Trotwood Madison getting recruited before he went to Michigan,
Speaker 8: Mike two, I was in there telling him. I said, yeah,
Speaker 8: I saw your dad playing a high school I said,
Speaker 8: here's one heck of a rebounder. But he couldn't jump
Speaker 8: over the Yellow Springs bow book.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I repped volleyball there. He came up on
Speaker 1: a break, gave me a big hug man, some great,
Speaker 1: great memories and gosh, all the guys at Wayne, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, with Roosevelt Mukes and and the Red brothers,
Speaker 1: the cousins and Ronnie Red and yeah, just great great
Speaker 1: people up there. And what a gosh consistency with with
Speaker 1: Wayne High School in Hubert Heights.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And they do a great job.
Speaker 8: You know, Jay Minton did a great job up there beforehand,
Speaker 8: and you just look at you know, look at Marcus
Speaker 8: Freeman at Notre Dame and you look at Collie Jones's
Speaker 8: doing what he's doing at Middletown and Rose He's doing
Speaker 8: what he's doing at his alma mater, and uh, just
Speaker 8: just great players have come through there, you know, Braxton
Speaker 8: Miller and man just you know the Tingers, Dolls and
Speaker 8: the Padillas that have come through there. And you've got
Speaker 8: kids at the highest gate and you see from those
Speaker 8: families playing now. So uh, they've done it right up there,
Speaker 8: they really have, and they you know they could break through.
Speaker 8: But mean, one heck of a game against Middletown, that's
Speaker 8: for sure.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. And Greg, how about your coverage this this next weekend?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so look, I mean.
Speaker 8: If you go to Tri Statefootball dot Com right now, Uh,
Speaker 8: there's all kinds of great stuff from this past weekend. Interviews, recaps,
Speaker 8: photo galleries, all kinds of great stuff all over that
Speaker 8: that site.
Speaker 2: This weekend. Yeah, we'll be we'll have.
Speaker 8: Guys after the big school state championship games. I know
Speaker 8: we're going to get pictures from the Milan game against
Speaker 8: South Putnam. That's gonna be good. We'll have a gallery
Speaker 8: on our site there. We'll have some people over in
Speaker 8: Kentucky covering, but most of all, we'll be covering the
Speaker 8: Moeller and Saint X game, or I'm sorry, the Elder
Speaker 8: and Saint X game, and then you know Trice High
Speaker 8: School football tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN
Speaker 8: fifteen thirty. That'll be before and after the Saint X
Speaker 8: Elder game. So we'll be on and we'll have coach
Speaker 8: interviews in the post game. We had specta on last
Speaker 8: week or last Friday or last night after the win.
Speaker 8: Paul Wiggins from Newport joined us last night after they
Speaker 8: knocked off Holy Cross and ended their regular season, perfect
Speaker 8: season and just some good stuff, so we'll have more
Speaker 8: of that all weekend. It'll be a great Friday night
Speaker 8: for sure on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN fifteen
Speaker 8: thirty and tri Statefootball dot Com as well.
Speaker 1: Gosh, Greg, we were blessed with great weather last night.
Speaker 1: All those Elder Panthers under around the shirtless last night
Speaker 1: at the Pitt Elder Stadium. But we've been pretty well
Speaker 1: blessed here with great weather this fall, we really have,
Speaker 1: and I think.
Speaker 8: We might end up having another decent game like that
Speaker 8: as well, So let's take it while we can. It
Speaker 8: doesn't happen this late in years as well as it does.
Speaker 8: And you know, at this time usually running the football
Speaker 8: is a big thing and passing the football gets difficult,
Speaker 8: but yet it is yet to happen. I saw, I
Speaker 8: saw a forty seven yard field goal last night and
Speaker 8: in the second week in November. It's that's pretty rare.
Speaker 2: This time of year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 8: It was good to see that. You know, the kids
Speaker 8: can play in element they don't have to play in
Speaker 8: the elements. They can play their games in great weather.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, well fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, director of operations for
Speaker 1: Tri Statefootball dot Com and your entire crew. Is there
Speaker 1: anybody else you want to mention with your with your team?
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I like to thank all our guys this
Speaker 8: year to coming out and seeing us are working for
Speaker 8: Jake Berkameyer does a great job. Him and Daniel Coone.
Speaker 8: They do their own podcast uh sefwan Alvi. He always
Speaker 8: joins me on Friday nights on the post game version
Speaker 8: of High School Football Tonight. James Sprague is always out
Speaker 8: covering James Forrest, Brandon Lampley as well. I've got a
Speaker 8: good group over there. They've been there with us for
Speaker 8: a few years now, and I'm really proud of that group.
Speaker 8: And of course Dan Klaskin is my business partner over there.
Speaker 8: He does this thing, making sure this whole thing keeps
Speaker 8: taking week to week and we're all happy and getting
Speaker 8: our assignments completed.
Speaker 1: All fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us tonight and talking high school football. Nothing like Friday
Speaker 1: night lights and Saturday night too. Appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Thanks so good man, Chick.
Speaker 8: I'll talk to you soon, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Greg Shoemaker, always appreciate it. Hey, this is Sports
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Speaker 1: joined us to talk high school football. Well, we have
Speaker 1: all heard the term busman's holiday. It's a vacation or
Speaker 1: a form of recreation that involves doing basically the same
Speaker 1: thing that you do at work, Okay, and I had
Speaker 1: my share of busman's holidays as a sports writer at
Speaker 1: the Dayton Daily News. Just to give you a couple
Speaker 1: of examples, I covered Wright State basketball in the Horizon
Speaker 1: League for ten years and there were times when Wright
Speaker 1: State would be playing the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee in
Speaker 1: the Old Mecca where Marquette used to play, Okay, for
Speaker 1: like an afternoon game or an evening game, and at
Speaker 1: the same time that day, or at a different time
Speaker 1: that day Dayton, the Flyers would be in Milwaukee facing
Speaker 1: Marquette at the Bradley Center back then. So with the
Speaker 1: times being different, I was able to finagle a press
Speaker 1: pass to go see the Flyers and Marquette play on
Speaker 1: the same day that Wright State played. So that is
Speaker 1: a busman's holiday. When a bus driver rides the bus
Speaker 1: on his off day, Okay, that's where it all stems
Speaker 1: from and there were times when Hey, I would cover
Speaker 1: a high school game on a Friday night, high school football,
Speaker 1: and then if I would be off on Sunday, hey
Speaker 1: go to a Bengals game and then even catch a
Speaker 1: college football game on Saturday ud or the Ohio State University,
Speaker 1: my alma mater, when I wasn't working. So what would
Speaker 1: be your ideal busman's holiday? Maybe you've experienced one, or
Speaker 1: you would like to experience it. Man, I would love
Speaker 1: to hear from you. We're opening up the phone lines
Speaker 1: for the first time at five one, three, seven four nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one and first
Speaker 1: out of the gate here he's been waiting a while.
Speaker 1: Our good friend in Dayton, Richard Dick. It wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a show without you, man. How are you?
Speaker 6: How are you check?
Speaker 1: Great? How are you?
Speaker 14: Hey?
Speaker 9: Chick?
Speaker 11: It's ten to nothing.
Speaker 1: The buck guys are rocking, buddy, Well, I've got it
Speaker 1: on the big screen here in the seven hundred WLW studios,
Speaker 1: and I hope Julian's saying the quarterback of the Buckeyes,
Speaker 1: who've got pushed and uh yeah, some bumps and bruises,
Speaker 1: but they're off to a good start here ten to
Speaker 1: nothing over Ucla.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I just wanted to tell you too about a
Speaker 11: busman's holiday was uh. I think it was back when
Speaker 11: you were covering the the uh the Bengals and we
Speaker 11: got to go uh just saw your Point and play
Speaker 11: there during tall Stacks and I could see, you know,
Speaker 11: uh all all the uh steamboats came in and we
Speaker 11: went down to party a little bit. I think we
Speaker 11: went to uh that place and uh was its Uh
Speaker 11: I'm trying to think and uh Westchester.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 11: We we stopped at Burbanks and had lunch. But yeah,
Speaker 11: this people, it was really nice. You know, we were city,
Speaker 11: you know where saw your Point was. Yes, but we
Speaker 11: were playing and just the people. It was a beautiful day.
Speaker 11: But you know it was just really nice, chick.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, gosh, I remember going quite often
Speaker 1: to see University of Cincinnati put on play on the
Speaker 1: showboat Majestic right there, you know, right there at the
Speaker 1: foot of the landing. Was just awesome.
Speaker 11: Yes, what can we Maybe I'll give you a prediction?
Speaker 11: Can I go twenty seven four tomorrow?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: I would love it? Yeah, with Ohio State or with
Speaker 1: the Bengals on top of the Steelers.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm hoping the defense has to produce, don't they.
Speaker 1: It sure does, it absolutely does. Have a good night,
Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it, Thank you very much, Dick. All right,
Speaker 1: what is your favorite busman's holiday, whether you went on
Speaker 1: one or would like to experience one? And oh man
Speaker 1: being in Philadelphia when Dayton entered the Atlantic ten and
Speaker 1: they shipped me the Dayton Daily News ship me to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia for a weekend. It was just incredible seeing Dayton
Speaker 1: and LaSalle play then. And that was on a Thursday
Speaker 1: night at the Philly Civic Center. The next night I'm
Speaker 1: at McGonagall Hall on the campus at Temple University watching
Speaker 1: Temple play Rhode Island. And then that Saturday, Wright stayed
Speaker 1: against LaSalle at the Palaestra. So what a unbelievable weekend
Speaker 1: I had in Philadelphia. Just tremendous, great memories. Hey, a
Speaker 1: story broke this week ESPN's Dan Orlovsky, former quarterback, talking
Speaker 1: about Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. He would like
Speaker 1: Ryan Day to become head coach of the New York
Speaker 1: Football Giants. And I'm saying, Ryan, don't do it. Don't
Speaker 1: even think about it. And I did some research here
Speaker 1: on six former coaches and current coaches that tried to
Speaker 1: go from college to pro and it just didn't quite
Speaker 1: work out. And I want to start way back in
Speaker 1: the year that I graduated from the Ohio State University
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six. Lou Holtz coached the New York
Speaker 1: Jets in nineteen seventy six. He had come from NC
Speaker 1: State and he took over the New York Jets. He
Speaker 1: resigned that year with one game left in the season.
Speaker 1: He resigned when the Jets were three and ten, and
Speaker 1: he said God just didn't mean for him to be
Speaker 1: an NFL coach. Then he went on to Arkansas, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in South Carolina. Lou Holtz. The Jets finished
Speaker 1: three and eleven that year, but Lou resigned with one
Speaker 1: game left in that nineteen seventy six season. And then
Speaker 1: how about Bobby Petrino taking over the Falcons in two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. He was charged with developing Michael Vick
Speaker 1: as a total quarterback. He was a tremendous runner. The
Speaker 1: problem that Patrino found in two thousand and seven was
Speaker 1: Michael Vick was bankrolling that dog fighting scheme and he
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to leave the Great State of Virginia. He
Speaker 1: wound up being out of football and the problem with
Speaker 1: the Falcons that year they t the off season, Matt
Speaker 1: Schaub traded him to the Houston Texans, so the Falcons
Speaker 1: were strapped at quarterback with Joey Harrington, Byron Lefwich and
Speaker 1: Chris Redman. And speaking of three and ten, Bobby Petrino
Speaker 1: resigned after a three and ten start and took the
Speaker 1: head coaching job at the University of Arkansas. Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator. All of a sudden, he was
Speaker 1: out of a job, and he led us to believe.
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer that if he ever ran into Bobby Patrino
Speaker 1: he might put him in a book garbage can. He
Speaker 1: was that upset. But Mike Zimmer eventually became defensive cordator
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals and is one of my favorite coaches.
Speaker 1: How about Cam Cameron Okay five years at Indiana University
Speaker 1: from night eighteen ninety seven through two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Then he became the San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator from
Speaker 1: two through six. He was given he was he was
Speaker 1: given the Miami Dolphins head coaching job in two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven. He went one in fifteen before moving on
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens as the offensive coordinator. That's a
Speaker 1: point zero six to three winning percentage one in fifteen.
Speaker 1: Cam Cameron so from Indiana University, and yes, he was
Speaker 1: with the Chargers for five years. Didn't work out for him,
Speaker 1: being a former college coach going and becoming an NFL
Speaker 1: head coach. I want to put Nick Saban in this category.
Speaker 1: He's won seven national titles, one at LSU in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three and then six more at the University
Speaker 1: of Alama, Obama. Now he's an accomplished football analyst on ESPN,
Speaker 1: but he took over as the Miami Dolphins head coach
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five and two thousand and six,
Speaker 1: and he finished fifteen and seventeen with the Dolphins, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't horrible. He was close to five hundred, but
Speaker 1: he also realized the NFL was not for him. He
Speaker 1: moved on to Alabama and won six national championships. So
Speaker 1: I'm telling Brian Day, don't do it. Don't think about
Speaker 1: going to the NFL, don't think about coaching the new
Speaker 1: York Football Giants. And there's two more on my list here.
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly great success at Oregon versus the offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and then as the head coach from two thousand and
Speaker 1: nine through twenty twelve. He was named the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles in twan thirteen. He lasted three
Speaker 1: years for the Eagles. His first two years he went
Speaker 1: ten and six, then his third year six and nine
Speaker 1: and got fired. Then he coached the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers in twenty sixteen, went two to fourteen and
Speaker 1: then got fired before returning to the college ranks. And then,
Speaker 1: of course there's Urban Meyer. Two national titles at Florida
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: another national title as head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, he was named head coach of the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty one. He lasted thirteen games.
Speaker 1: The team went two and eleven. Right there with lasting
Speaker 1: just thirteen games along with Lou Holtz of the Jets
Speaker 1: and Bobby Petrino with the Atlanta Falcons and Urban Meyers
Speaker 1: one fifty four winning percentage at Jacksonville was the worst
Speaker 1: of any non interim head coach since Cam Cameron's two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven Dolphins that went one and fifteen. So
Speaker 1: my whole point here is, don't go to the pros.
Speaker 1: Ryan Day. You're at the Ohio State University, and I
Speaker 1: hope you're there for a very long time. Let's go
Speaker 1: out to the phones. Is it Bryce on the line? Bryce?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it is welcome, Hi chick.
Speaker 7: I mean, do you see their tough loss to Arizona
Speaker 7: struggles on the offic that's Brendan Zortesy two interceptions today.
Speaker 7: Oh that was and he had two interceptions on the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really really tough to watch. Those were
Speaker 1: like punts. I mean, they were just bad interceptions.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, especially the offense cannot capitalize two missfield goals
Speaker 7: from Arizona's kicker, and they could just not convert on
Speaker 7: those opportunities. They're not playing complimentary football to death.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You know, I'm looking Bryce at the
Speaker 1: standings here in the Big Twelve Conference, and there are
Speaker 1: six teams within one game of each other. The Texas
Speaker 1: Tech Red Raiders big win today, they're seven and one
Speaker 1: in the conference. BYU Placed tonight they're five and one,
Speaker 1: and then the Houston Cougars, Arizona State sun Devils, you
Speaker 1: see Bearcats in Utah Utes, all with two losses in
Speaker 1: the conference. So it's still, uh, it's still kind of
Speaker 1: wide open, but Texas texture looks like the cream of
Speaker 1: the crop along with BYU.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's still possible, but UC's most definitely gonna have
Speaker 7: to win against BYU and TCU. They're gonna have to
Speaker 7: win out just to even have a chance at our
Speaker 7: to make it to at and T Stadium. You never
Speaker 7: know what could happened in a crazy conference.
Speaker 2: Like the Big Twelve.
Speaker 7: But we'll see what happens along the least.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and uh, it was just a day
Speaker 1: of missed opportunities for uh, for the UC Bearcats. Now
Speaker 1: I understand you're in Anderson township. Do you follow the
Speaker 1: Anderson High School football team or U turping?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: I followed Anderson High School football team a lot, and
Speaker 7: I'm going to Anderson. I go to a lot of
Speaker 7: their games, and a great one yesterday against LAUSU.
Speaker 1: And Anderson plays the Trotwood Madison Rams for the Division
Speaker 1: two Region eight championship this coming week. The Anderson Raptors
Speaker 1: twelve and oh how about that.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, they've had it.
Speaker 7: They've strung together a great season. It started against the
Speaker 7: great team from Kentucky Cooper. They were down at half
Speaker 7: time just to start the season and they never looked
Speaker 7: back from that. From that game, they went twelve to
Speaker 7: oh and I back to back final fours, and I
Speaker 7: think they it's their year this year.
Speaker 1: Anderson, Well, fantastic. Bryce. Hey, great hearing from you for
Speaker 1: the second week in a row. Awesome you're on your way.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's always great calling and you just have
Speaker 8: a great.
Speaker 7: Rest of your rookend.
Speaker 8: Chick.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Bryce, all right, appreciate it, Thanks so much,
Speaker 1: take care, thank you. All right, half hour is gone quickly. Here,
Speaker 1: we got another half hour to go all the way
Speaker 1: to nine o'clock tonight, Sports Talk with your host Chick
Speaker 1: Ludwig on seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to seven hundred WLW. This is Chick Ludwig
Speaker 1: eight thirty nine on this Saturday night, and Jason Williams
Speaker 1: is in the house. I'll be listening to Jason on
Speaker 1: my way back to the Miamisburg War Room. Jason's going
Speaker 1: to be here at not from nine to midnight tonight.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot Com and the Inquirer. Hey, we're talking some
Speaker 1: mo busman's holiday. Nothing like going to Hinkelfield House in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and check out an afternoon Saturday basketball game, and
Speaker 1: then to the field House later to watch the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phones. Welcome in our good
Speaker 1: friend Kevin in Columbus, Hi. Kevin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, well right now, I'm also half keeping
Speaker 2: an eye on.
Speaker 5: The Buckey's game, but they probably got it in the hand.
Speaker 5: But don't guaranteed. I appreciate you talking some reds early
Speaker 5: on in this show, because I still am looking forward
Speaker 5: to the season and convinced Francona can get this team going.
Speaker 5: Maybe it takes more than one year. But as far
Speaker 5: as the Bengals, I mean, even if they win tomorrow,
Speaker 5: it's Burrow or no Burrow. They have the same problem
Speaker 5: as last year. You know, great offense and awful defense.
Speaker 5: You're better the other way around, great defense and so
Speaker 5: so offense because you at least have a little more
Speaker 5: control of the game. This way, you're just hoping they
Speaker 5: win a shootout every week, and that's not always gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely right about that, and we see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's football, and maybe that's the way the NFL
Speaker 5: wants it, you know, they they don't want remember the
Speaker 5: old days where he had the boring, you know, six.
Speaker 2: Tough in games.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's remember that, but hey, that that was
Speaker 3: football into the football is basically blocking and tackling, and
Speaker 3: we don't seem to have anyone can tackle the offense.
Speaker 2: We really didn't worry about that. It was gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: The offense will be okay.
Speaker 1: But you remember the kickers, don't you Kevins.
Speaker 2: He was the last one of those.
Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, the no sidewinders then, but it was uh,
Speaker 5: it's uh uh Bengals, they got to somehow get their
Speaker 5: defense better. You know, Burn will be back there when
Speaker 5: they want to play him this year. And I don't know,
Speaker 5: but then we consider and crossing our fingers, Toby don't
Speaker 5: get hurt again for real, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it's they I don't know what's happened to the
Speaker 5: defense and these guys they just run right by him.
Speaker 5: They don't tackle many players.
Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating blown coverages and uh lack of tackle. Tackle,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 12: Why didn't they tackle that guy in the Bears cave?
Speaker 12: They would have just knocked him down. Then the Bears
Speaker 12: would have been panicking and scrambling to get up. I
Speaker 12: can't remember when they had a time out or not,
Speaker 12: but it was down to twenty seconds they would have been,
Speaker 12: you know, and that's they could do something wrong. Maybe
Speaker 12: we'd have pulled out a win there, but it wouldn't
Speaker 12: change the whole scheme of things, you know.
Speaker 4: But uh, hey, it's.
Speaker 2: Great here and you on the air.
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and hear what you got, all right, Kevin,
Speaker 1: appreciate it? Oh yeah, all right, thank you. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: Dave arm Brewster Yddy gave us a big time confidence
Speaker 1: that the Bengals will win tomorrow, So I'm uh, I'm
Speaker 1: fired up about that. And just a reminder that Jim
Speaker 1: Breach and I will be at the Wings and Rings
Speaker 1: in Greendale, Indiana tomorrow for Bengals postgame Sports Talk five
Speaker 1: thirty to eight thirty and will be strictly on Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty because the UC Bearcats are playing hoops
Speaker 1: tomorrow at six o'clock, So with all the coverage starting
Speaker 1: at five o'clock right here on the seven hundred WLW SO,
Speaker 1: and you'll want directions to the Wings and Rings in Greendale,
Speaker 1: enter Indiana, Exit sixteen toward US fifty Greendale, Lawrence Burg
Speaker 1: and the Aurora exit. Come on out and see Jim
Speaker 1: Breach and the Chickster. We're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: fun breaking the game down like a wrecking ball. Well,
Speaker 1: we're also talking Busman's Holiday and Sean McMahon, tonight's producer,
Speaker 1: being an elder grad and a University of Cincinnati grad,
Speaker 1: is there a holiday that you would like to experience
Speaker 1: in sport?
Speaker 10: You know, I guess, I guess Now that I've been
Speaker 10: in media a while, I guess going to sporting events
Speaker 10: it counts as a bustman's holiday for me, doesn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 10: it would, I guess it does, because you know, for
Speaker 10: a while I was doing I was doing stuff with
Speaker 10: the UC football team. Not as a player, but I
Speaker 10: was a part of the coach's video team. Shout out
Speaker 10: to my colleagues from those days. But it was it
Speaker 10: was strange, chick because for four years or two years,
Speaker 10: I did that. So I was traveling with the team,
Speaker 10: I was filming every practice, and you know, I was
Speaker 10: working all the time for those games. In the next
Speaker 10: two years, I was doing stuff for bear Cast Media,
Speaker 10: calling the games for student Radio down at UC, and
Speaker 10: going to a game as a fan.
Speaker 1: It's so weird because I feel like I should be
Speaker 1: like working.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's such a strange feeling going as a
Speaker 10: fan because it's not something I get to do often.
Speaker 10: I just love going down to Nippert. I love going
Speaker 10: down to UC. I love being on campus. UC is
Speaker 10: really home to me. Uh And I actually got to
Speaker 10: go to homecoming this year, and I was very appreciative
Speaker 10: of that. I met up with a friend of mine
Speaker 10: I hadn't seen in a while, and we spent the
Speaker 10: day together and we watched the Cats beat Baylor, and
Speaker 10: actually I bumped into a colleague of ours, Chick.
Speaker 1: I got to see Tommy Thrall at halftime. I bumped
Speaker 1: into him. I have a picture with him on my
Speaker 1: Instagram page.
Speaker 10: And it was just funny seeing him there because one
Speaker 10: of my colleagues from the UC football video team said, Hey,
Speaker 10: you know Tommy's here, right.
Speaker 2: I was like, how do you know that?
Speaker 1: That is awesome?
Speaker 10: He said, I saw him over by the by the
Speaker 10: the building, at near the cheering section or the student section.
Speaker 10: I said, oh, no, kidding. So I shot him at
Speaker 10: text and I said I heard you're here, and he goes,
Speaker 10: how'd you know that? And I said, someone saw you
Speaker 10: and recognize you that I know, and so I figured
Speaker 10: I come find you. But yeah, for a busman's holiday, Chick.
Speaker 10: I just love going to Nippert It just it feels
Speaker 10: it feels right for me to be there. I just
Speaker 10: love UC's campus. I've always been passionate about UC since
Speaker 10: I kind of picked up being a UC fan. I
Speaker 10: love my time there, and personally I love going to
Speaker 10: college football games across the country when I got the
Speaker 10: chance to do that. When I was a senior, I
Speaker 10: got to travel to Notre Dame, got to travel to Indiana,
Speaker 10: watched the Bearcats play those guys and have a historic season.
Speaker 10: I've been across the country at different football stadium so personally,
Speaker 10: I'd love to go check out other team stadiums, you know,
Speaker 10: some of the bigger programs Texas, Florida, Alabama.
Speaker 1: I've been to the Shoe.
Speaker 10: I've been to the Big House both times watching the Bearcats.
Speaker 10: So for me, I think I'd just like to travel
Speaker 10: to a bunch of the college football arena's great college
Speaker 10: football arenas across the country.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic. Yeah, and gosh it was. Now I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of the year nineteen ninety six when
Speaker 1: Ohio State they wound up playing in the ninety seven
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. I got to go out and help cover
Speaker 1: Ohio State and my beat was Arizona State at the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, so they stayed up near Pasadena. So it
Speaker 1: was just phenomenal the prime days of Arizona State too. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it was just a tremendous experience a week out there
Speaker 1: and Ohio State was down in Orange County, and Arizona
Speaker 1: State was up by near Pasadena, and I was in
Speaker 1: a residence in I mean really five to ten minutes
Speaker 1: away from Santa Anita Raceway and just a blast out
Speaker 1: there for a week.
Speaker 10: I'm jealous, man, the Rose Bulls. I've heard it's phenomenal.
Speaker 10: It's just stunning out there.
Speaker 1: Been there twice once as a student and Ohio State
Speaker 1: one in nineteen seventy four. Wow, it was my sophomore
Speaker 1: year January one of seventy four. We beat Southern cal
Speaker 1: forty two to twenty one. And yeah, one of my
Speaker 1: claims of fame is walking at Saint John Arena Winter
Speaker 1: Quarter in nineteen seventy six with Archie Griffin. How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then as a sports writer covering Clark Kellogg's high
Speaker 1: school career at Cleveland Saint Joe and then also a
Speaker 1: Kirk Herb Street at Centerville High School. You've seen it all,
Speaker 1: so just tremendous. And Chris Carter at Middletown there you go.
Speaker 1: So just got to see some great, great athletes. And
Speaker 1: Ron Harper at Kaiser High School before he went to
Speaker 1: Miami University and then off to the NBA. So I
Speaker 1: got to see some tremendous. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: you know because I substitute teach, and a lot of
Speaker 1: kids recognized the voice, and they all ask me about
Speaker 1: becoming a sports writer or a broadcaster. And the one
Speaker 1: thing I tell kids that want to be sports writers,
Speaker 1: you can't be where oftentimes where you want to be. Yep, okay,
Speaker 1: And there was the year. I'll never forget it. It's
Speaker 1: the opening day of the NFL season. So my head
Speaker 1: is either in Cleveland or in Cincinnati with the Browns
Speaker 1: and Bengals. Okay, and here I'm at the IndyCar Race
Speaker 1: in Lexington, Ohio, at mid Ohio, the Indy Cars on
Speaker 1: the road course, and I just told myself, Hey, you're
Speaker 1: getting paid to do this. Michael Andretti won that day,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do a hell of a job covering
Speaker 1: this IndyCar race. It was a cold day, and but
Speaker 1: you don't always get to be where you want to be.
Speaker 1: And uh, but that's the way it is. And wow
Speaker 1: do we have Wow? This is a surprise? Is this
Speaker 1: Sue on the line? Sue, Yeah, welcome, I'm back.
Speaker 14: I'll say I'll wait, No.
Speaker 1: You're on, you are on?
Speaker 14: Oh, I'm on. Okay, My question is, but I have
Speaker 14: to talk about Jim Breech. Yeah, I see as old
Speaker 14: is the Hills because I know I've knew his daughter
Speaker 14: many years ago.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, oh, it's the Hills, but you know
Speaker 1: he's pasted seventy that's for sure. The chickster is seventy one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I know he did good with the Bengals. And I
Speaker 14: used to like to hear when you had him one
Speaker 14: earlier too.
Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful, yes, had him on and then we'll be
Speaker 1: together tomorrow.
Speaker 14: Well. I do like your odd games too, like the
Speaker 14: other announcers do too, or the other co hosts.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yes, dig it sound good and hang.
Speaker 14: In there and do not weep too much if the
Speaker 14: Bengals lose. I want them to win too, Okay, yes, ma'am,
Speaker 14: Yes we'll and I can hardly wait until February the
Speaker 14: twenty six. Yes to the first spring game. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 14: that'll be my best Men's holiday if I can get
Speaker 14: out of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic too. I appreciate the call, thank you.
Speaker 14: Okay, hang in there for your last few.
Speaker 6: Minutes, all right, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: And in these last few minutes, how about on this
Speaker 1: date in Red's history one day ago, November fourteenth, Let's
Speaker 1: go way back to eighteen eighty nine, the Reds are
Speaker 1: admitted back into the National League. Cincinnati was dropped from
Speaker 1: the league in eighteen eighty because of violations involving the
Speaker 1: playing of baseball on Sundays and the sale of beer
Speaker 1: at the ballpark. Cincinnati had been a member of the
Speaker 1: American Association since eighteen eighty two, but admitted back in
Speaker 1: the National League in eighteen eighty nine. On November fourteenth, Wow,
Speaker 1: how about that? And we see here where Google and
Speaker 1: Disney have reached a deal to restore ESPN and ABC
Speaker 1: to YouTube TV. And I know a lot of folks
Speaker 1: a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth over that.
Speaker 1: So welcome back ESPN and ABC to YouTube TV. And
Speaker 1: sad to hear the news about Kenny Easley passing away,
Speaker 1: great UCLA player, Seattle Seahawks strong safety Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: dead at the age of sixty six. And I think
Speaker 1: by now a lot of loyal listeners know that one
Speaker 1: of my hobbies is tracking deceased Bengals players. You had
Speaker 1: to have played in a game and been on an
Speaker 1: official roster for me, to research you. And in addition
Speaker 1: to Bob Trumpy and Rudy Johnson passing away recently, there's
Speaker 1: two more names that I want to throw out there.
Speaker 1: Warren McVeigh died at the age of seventy nine here recently.
Speaker 1: He was the first black player in the history of
Speaker 1: the University of Houston Cougars. And what's crazy about Warren.
Speaker 1: He was with the Bengals in nineteen sixty eight and
Speaker 1: part of nineteen sixty nine. He got traded to the
Speaker 1: AFL Kansas City Chiefs during the nineteen sixty nine season
Speaker 1: for kicker Horst Muleman, and he made a significant impact
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs as a kickoff returner and
Speaker 1: he rushed for five hundred yards that year, and the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl and it was
Speaker 1: Super Bowl four with a twenty three to seven victory
Speaker 1: over the Minnesota Vikings. So Warren McVeigh deceased at the
Speaker 1: age of seventy nine. And you might remember this name too,
Speaker 1: Pat Mattson. He was a messenger guard for the Bengals
Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty eight through nineteen seventy four, and he
Speaker 1: made the club as a in the expansion draft. The
Speaker 1: Bengals had forty players that they selected off other clubs.
Speaker 1: Each club had to put up like three players, and
Speaker 1: Pat made the team as an offensive guard University of Oregon.
Speaker 1: He had played at Denver and with the Bengals from
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy four. He recently died
Speaker 1: at the age of eighty one. And a couple more
Speaker 1: players off the original nineteen sixty eight Bengals have passed
Speaker 1: a lineman by the name two linemen, John Matt Locke
Speaker 1: and Andy Rice, so that takes the number of deceased
Speaker 1: Bengals players past the seventy mark. So hey want to
Speaker 1: thank all the loyal listeners checking us out tonight and
Speaker 1: thanking our guest Devut d Armbrewster, Jim Breach, Greg Shoemaker
Speaker 1: of Tristatefootball dot com and until next time, which happens
Speaker 1: to be tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana.
Speaker 1: This is the Chickster chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening
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