1 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Six oh seven in the Queens City of Cincinnati, Chick 2 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Ludwig seven hundred w l W. This is Sports Talk. 3 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Sean McMahon is tonight's producer. We are going all the 4 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: way to nine o'clock tonight, and we're coming out of 5 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: the gates strong. Our first guest is a gentleman who 6 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: wears three hats. He's the director of sports operations right 7 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: here at iHeartMedia Cincinnati. He's the longtime host pregame and 8 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: postgame for Reds on radio. And he happens to be 9 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: our very own spiritual leader. He's the goat. He's the 10 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: one and only dave Yady arm Brewster. Yet, how are 11 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: we doing tonight? 12 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, Chick, pretty good here in beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 13 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: And before we get into some of the topics we're 14 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about. First off, you being mister ubiquitous, 15 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: could you tell us about your travel itinerary here the 16 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: last what twenty four to forty eight hours? 17 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, we were in beautiful Iowa City, Iowa, yesterday for 18 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: the Xavier Iowa game, and I pulled in at I 19 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: don't know two am. Hang back on the plane this 20 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: say afternoon to Pittsburgh, so there and then home tomorrow 21 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: sometime about eight o'clock. We'll start all over again. 22 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Yes we will. And things are a little bit somber 23 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: around here following UCS thirty to twenty four loss to 24 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcats today. But yeah, brutal, just brutal. The 25 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: dreams of Dallas are fading quickly. But anyway, yd with 26 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: all the college football, hey alternative programming, it's always a 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: great time to talk Cincinnati Reds baseball, And looking at 28 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: this starting rotation, it is deep, it is strong, and 29 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: it appears that Nick Krawl and the powers that beat 30 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: don't want to move anybody. They want to hoard all 31 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: these great arms. 32 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: I understand that. I don't know that they won't end 33 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: up trading somebody. I mean, I think the last thing 34 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: you want to do is you know, oh yeah, we're 35 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: going to get rid of this guy. We're going to 36 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: get rid of that guy. 37 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: I know. 38 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: The all of talk was Hunter Green because he's got 39 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: such a team friendly contract and he could probably bring 40 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: the most of anybody. I see both sides of that. 41 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: I would personally try to go get some offense. But boy, 42 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: with the way people get hurt during the baseball season. 43 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: You need depth in your starting rotation. And even though 44 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: he seems to get hurt every year, it's nice they 45 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: have Hunter Greens starting every fifth day. 46 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: That is so true when you look back on this season, 47 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: didn't it count for something that they made the playoffs 48 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and lost to the eventual world champion Los Angeles Dodgers. 49 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: For sure, I really did. I do think it's something. 50 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you play to make the postseason, so you 51 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: go in and they get a little taste of the postseason. 52 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: A lot of these guys have never been there, and 53 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: I think that only helps for years to come. And 54 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: I think during the course of the year, you kind 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: of saw what Terry Francona is all about, how he 56 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: manipulates guys around field what he wants from his players, 57 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: and I think that only helps as they go into 58 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: spring training next year. I still think they have a 59 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: bunch of questions Marks Chick, I mean, the bullpen is now, 60 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: you know, with Pegan leaving, with Nick Martinez leaving, Scott 61 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: Barlow leaving, they have some holes in that bullpen that 62 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: they need to fill. I'm not the biggest fan of 63 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: BELLI David Cruz still playing shortstop, but right now, that's 64 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: the plan. And maybe that's because they don't have anybody 65 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: else or they can't go out and find somebody else. 66 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: So we'll see. I mean they have, they still have problems. 67 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: You're going to come into twenty six with maybe even 68 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: a less than you had in one yenda twenty five 69 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: because again, Martinez and Pagan were big parts of this 70 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: team's bullpen. 71 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: No doubt. And when you look at the starting rotation 72 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: with Hunter Green and Andrew Abbott, Nick Lodolo, Brady Singer 73 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: tossing Chase Burns there and possibly a Rep. Louder Man, 74 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: what would this team have looked like if it wasn't 75 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: missing Hunter Green for more than two months? 76 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, I agree, he is a difference maker. 77 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: But you know what, well, they always say the best 78 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: ability is availability, no doubt, And if you can't count 79 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: on a guy, I mean, I don't know how you 80 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: go forward. It's tough. I get it, I get it. 81 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: He can't help some injuries, but man, I want guys 82 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: that have gone out there and starting thirty two thirty 83 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: three games. That's what they need. And you know, with 84 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Green that just hasn't happened again. You know, he's 85 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: got the stuff, There's no question about that. 86 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they add Brandon Williamson here and Juli and Aggie 87 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: are they mentioned Chase Patty were still waiting for him 88 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: to come on. So, like you are, so right, a 89 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: lot of question marks. One of the pluses here, Wow 90 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: the emergence here of Connor Phillips, and I've alway he's 91 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: been a Tony Santion fan. If they can't acquire a 92 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: closer man, Tony Santion or a grand ass Craft might 93 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: be able to fill in that role. What do you 94 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: think about that? 95 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I mean, I'd rather I want 96 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: I mean and Santion close to handful of games, but 97 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: I'd like to have somebody with a little more experience 98 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: than that. But Tony Santion is unshakable as far as 99 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm concerned, So I wouldn't mind him going out there 100 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: and close and probably not pitching in as many games 101 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: as he did last year, because boy, by the end 102 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: of the season, I'm sure he was wore out. Yes, 103 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: he pitched a lot, but I do like him closing games. 104 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, at the times he did it, he did 105 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: a great job. So you know, maybe I want to 106 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: get a little more experienced. But if you go into 107 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: the season and that's who you have Tony Santion, I 108 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: can live with that. You know, that's fine. It's you know, 109 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. And I know, you know, I 110 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: don't think anybody really likes fullpens by committee, even though 111 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: they might say it at I think at some point 112 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: you just have a guy and he's your guy. And 113 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: that's what they did with Emilia Pagon last year, and 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: they stuck with him and they did a great job. 115 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: So you know, maybe they make Tony Santy on that 116 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: guy in spring. We'll see what happens. 117 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: And the emergence of Connor Phillips, you just hope that 118 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: he can really continue where he let off because he 119 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: was just awesome at the end of last season. 120 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh well, there's no question. And I also think, uh, 121 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: you know, your good reports of what RHT Ladder has 122 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: done in the Arizona Fall League. I guess he was 123 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: in four appearances and pitched pretty well. You know that 124 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: bodes well for this team too. I just think it's 125 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: it's depth. It's depth. It's more depth, and they have 126 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: some good arms and and you know, you get in 127 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: there and pitch well and you look at the Dodgers. 128 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: They here, their starting rotation is like twelve people deep. 129 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: They just keep bringing guys up and up, and you 130 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: need that. So I again, I liked. I liked what 131 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: they have in the arms right now. I think at 132 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: this point it's can you score. 133 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Some runs, no doubt. And listening to Tito Francone and 134 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: it was great that he was mentioned. Gosha I'll finished 135 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: second for the Manager of the Year award. That was 136 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: that just terrific. He wants more depth on this team, 137 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and you know, to help out a guy like a TJ. 138 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Friedel in center field where he doesn't have to you know, 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: they can rest him every once in a while. And 140 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: possibly Elie de la Cruz. It looks like they're don't 141 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: want to move him out of shortstop, so get him 142 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: a little bit more rest hopefully and maybe the errors 143 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: will subside. 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, he can't go play one hundred 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: and sixty two games. He looked tired. So you know, 146 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: if you be agm a couple of times a week 147 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: and get him some rest, maybe that will cut down 148 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: on the years. You know, we'll see how that goes. 149 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: His offensive numbers really have to pick up I think 150 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: next year, and I think this team's overall. We've talked 151 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: about a lot and that's the power numbers. You better 152 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: start hitting some home runs. You're playing in a bandbox 153 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: in great American ballpark. Uh, you know, you just got 154 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 2: to score more runs and put the ball out of 155 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: the ballpark a little more too. And I think a 156 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: lot of that falls on Ellie. I mean, he's if 157 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: you're the star of this team, I want to see 158 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: a little more power from you. 159 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: This coming week at Middletown High School, Kyle Schwarber's coming 160 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: back for a big shin dig at the high school. 161 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it's Wednesday night. 162 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 2: Man. 163 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: I I dream of having the guy in Cincinnati Cincinnati 164 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: Ridge uniform. What would it mean? I know it's it's 165 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: probably far fetched, you'd but what would The only thing 166 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: I could kind of compare it to is, you know, 167 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: would be the signing of a Ken Griffy junior. The 168 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: excitement that that would degenerate among the fan base. I agree. 169 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: It would be great to have him, no doubt about it, 170 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: but they're not going to increase the role much. It 171 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: sounds like from last year. So Kyle Schwarber is you 172 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: know everything I'm reading he's looking at you know, four years, 173 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million. I'm not sure this team 174 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: can do that. Now, if you're if you think you're 175 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: close enough that you actually have a chance to go 176 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: to the World Series and you can sign a you know, 177 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: maybe a two year deal with him and pay him 178 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, I'm okay with that, But 179 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: they need more than one person. Check. I'd love to 180 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: have him. I would love to have yeah, but you know, 181 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: number one, he'd have to be the DH and then 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: we got a team full of dhs. I just don't 183 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: see him coming here. I hope, I'm shocked. I hope, 184 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: I hope come to Winter meetings and all that. All 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden, the big signing is Kyle Schwerber comes 186 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: back to Cincinnati. That would be awesome, you know, especially 187 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: hitting here and his ballpark. He could he'll repeat what 188 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: he did this year with the Phillies. But I just 189 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: think there's going to be a bidding war on that guy, 190 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: and ultimately I bet he stays in Philadelphia. I really do. 191 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Hey, if we could, could we take a trip around 192 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: the lineup here. You know, your catcher is pretty well 193 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: set here with Tyler Stevenson and Jose Travino. And yes 194 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: they did add Ben Arvett from LA for some depth purposes. 195 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: But looking at first base, and really it's the elephant 196 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: in the room, is it South Stewart or Spencer Steer. 197 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: Well, Spencer Steer is well runner up in Gold Gloves, 198 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer can really play the position. Spencer Steer's power 199 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: numbers are just okay, so it can South Stewart add 200 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: more of that because that's really the only place he's 201 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 2: going to be able to play unless he phs and 202 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer, So you might lose a little bit at 203 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: first base, Okay, if he can hit more home runs, 204 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm good with it. Spencer Steer can play left field 205 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: and really not miss a beat, I think, and Terry 206 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: Franccona likes guys that can move around, so I think 207 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Spencer Steeter can play multiple positions. I'd love to see 208 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: him at first base, but I think with the team 209 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: needing offense, I think you're moving where you have to moving. 210 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: If that means that South Stewart's going to pop the 211 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: ball out of the ballpark as he plays first base, and. 212 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: We're all hoping that Matt McClain can rebound here at 213 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: second base, see better. 214 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 2: They need him, they need him to play better or 215 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: down your offensively. I'll give him, you know, I'll give 216 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: him partially because of the shoulder, But the guy had 217 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: over five hundred at bats at some point. You know 218 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that's not an excuse anymore. So we you know, come 219 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, let's see what happens. But it'd be 220 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: nice to have him there hitting like he was before. 221 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Then you talk about and McLain defensively is fine, not great. Fine. 222 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Then you talk about Ellie again needs to have more 223 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: power and his defense has to improve at least marginally. 224 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: It has to get a little bit better. Yes, And 225 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: then you go to to Brian Hayes, great great defender, 226 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: Gold Glove winner, Kenny hit enough out of power position 227 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: this team. I know why they went out and got 228 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: him because you know, you play some defense. They weren't 229 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: going to score a lot of runs. You played defense 230 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: to back up some good pitching. And it did help 231 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: him get into the postseason. But Cabrian Hayes is what 232 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: he is. He's not going to be the greatest hitter 233 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: in the world. Book boy, can he play defense and 234 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: especially with Elie next to him. That does help. 235 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: It certainly does. And you know a guy like it. Yeah, 236 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: there's guys like without positions, kind of like a Gavin 237 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: Lux who can DH. But man, what an adventure out 238 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: in left field and even a second base. So but 239 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: but a solid veteran that you'd love to have around. 240 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no question about him. But you're you're 241 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: right about defensively. I mean there's some deficiencies there, there's 242 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: no question about that. But I like him, like having 243 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: him in the lineup. And again he's a guy who 244 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: with DH, he's a leader in the clubhouse, it seems. 245 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: So it's good to have guys like that, you know. 246 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: Then you know, let's talk about the outfield a little 247 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: bit because Marte is going to play right field and 248 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: I think he proved that he can and hit boy 249 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: when they moved him off third base to right field. 250 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Did his offense come around? So hopefully that continues going 251 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: into the new year. 252 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: TJ. 253 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Friedel's in center. I think the wear and pay on 254 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: center field might take a toll on him a little 255 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: bit because he plays a lot again, not a whole 256 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: lot of power there, A good guy to have I 257 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: like to have him, and then the question mark is 258 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: what do you do now in left field? Is it 259 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: Spencer's year? You know, because you don't have Austin Hayes anymore? 260 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: Do you go out and try to get another bat? 261 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: Can this team afford to hit? You know, we talked 262 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: about Schwarber, but can this team afford a guy that 263 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: you know is going to hit thirty home rounds a year? 264 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: I just don't know. I mean that's something that I'm 265 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: sure the front office discussing right now. But you know, 266 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Spencer Steer doesn't hit a whole lot of home runs. 267 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: Will Benson is an extra. 268 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Outfielder, that's what he Yeah, I was going to mention 269 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: his name, you know, left field, right field, he's played, 270 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: he played some center. Uh, he's been up and down. Uh, 271 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: just looking for consistency out of Uh. The players love 272 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: him and uh we wish he was that power guy 273 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: that could that could help this club. 274 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he is. I think they got 275 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: to go outside and find somebody else that can be 276 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: that power guy. Again, it's just it's limited payroll. It's 277 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: hard man with when you get the you know, these 278 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: teams offering these guys so much money. And I just 279 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: don't think the Reds have the resources to do that. 280 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: Now. 281 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: Again, if they if they think they are close where 282 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: they can go deep into the playoffs in the World Series, 283 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: then maybe you take a chance. Maybe you spend the money, 284 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: but you got to spend it correctly, because we've seen, 285 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen him spend money before and it 286 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: was just not well spent. Jam Or Candelario's of the world, 287 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: the Mike Mustachus's of the world just didn't work out. 288 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: So you know, let's see what happens during these winter 289 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: meetings and up till you know, opening day in late March. 290 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Yid, we're going to take that twenty one million that 291 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: Martinez Scott has a down payment for Kylish Warber. 292 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in. I'm more than happy to take that. 293 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: I would be great to have that dude, you know. 294 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: And he he's just a good baseball player and a 295 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: good guy to have on your team. 296 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, and then pack in the stadium, man, that's 297 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: got to count for something. 298 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: To the stadium for a while. I mean, you know, 299 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: it's not going to you'll have a shorter effect like 300 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: you did the Griffy effect, you know, for a while. 301 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: But you better win there. You know they're not going 302 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: to show up if if you keep losing games, that's 303 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: not you know, it's it's it's there's only so many 304 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: guys like show hey o'tani where you know, if he plays, 305 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: there's going to pack the joint. Schreber might be one 306 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: of those, you know, if he gets off to a 307 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: good start and hit some bombs early in the season, 308 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: if the red skinning. So, yeah, there is there is 309 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: something to that. There's no question. I remember when Griffy 310 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: came to tam Boy. Yeah, that place was packed those 311 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: first couple of seasons just to see a guy that's 312 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame. So maybe maybe that 313 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: happens with shorebur as well. If they get him, that's 314 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: a big giant if. 315 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: Well, we saw Dave Roberts make every right move the 316 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: last two nights of the of the World Series, and 317 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Tito Francona can get touched by an 318 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: angel this year like Dave Roberts was. I'm still waiting 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: for pot Has crashing into Key k Hernandez for the 320 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: ball to pop loose and fall on the floor in 321 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays win, but just didn't happen. 322 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, But you know what, two 323 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: teams aside, that was an incredible world series to watch 324 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: it really, it was a fun world series. 325 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: It certainly was. And the Reds they are at least 326 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: fun and interesting and already looking forward to next season. 327 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: You'd appreciate you. 328 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I am too. I'm pumped. I'm pumped for the 329 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: first spring training is a game in Goodyear, Arizona on 330 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: February twenty first against those dreadic Cleveland Guardians. 331 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: All right, well, is there a chance you can bring 332 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: home a victory tomorrow in Pittsburgh on this watershed. 333 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna win tomorrow. You just watch. They're gonna win. 334 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: Just the defense has to play a little better, of course. 335 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: But boy did Aaron Rodgers look like he was about 336 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: sixty years old last week. Yes, so if they can 337 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: continue that, you know, if they can put the pressure 338 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: on him, they're gonna come home with a victory. And 339 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you still got some hope. 340 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: You don't win. I mean it's must win tomorrow. Check one, 341 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: must win? Did you fall the three and seven? 342 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: You're cooked? Absolutely? Yid always a pleasure, Thanks so much 343 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: for taking time out to join us tonight. Appreciate you. 344 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: You got it, sir, Talk to you lator, Chick. 345 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: Thank you. That is Devit Armbrus, who Director of Sports 346 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: Operations iHeartMedia Cincinnati and longtime host what four decades pregame 347 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: and postgame on reds on radio. And this is Chick 348 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: Ludwig Sports Talk. After the bottom of the hour news 349 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Jim Breach is going to join us to talk some 350 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: Bengals football on seven hundred WLW. Well w, this is 351 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: sports Talk. We're going all the way to nine o'clock tonight. 352 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Jason Williams of The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com takes 353 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: over these airwaves. He'll take you to midnight. My next 354 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: guest is the career scoring leader for your Cincinnati Bengals 355 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: one thousand, one hundred and fifty one points. And we 356 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: will be co hosting Bengals postgame sports Talk tomorrow, Wings 357 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: and Rings, Greendale, Indiana, five thirty to eight thirty. We're 358 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna break down the Bengals victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers 359 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: like a wrecking ball, and it's gonna be on ESPN 360 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty because UC basketball will dominate the seven hundred 361 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: WLW airwaves. If we welcome in now our good friend, 362 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: the one and only Bengals legend, jim Breech, Jimmy, how 363 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: are you. 364 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: Good? Check? 365 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: How are you doing? 366 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 7: Oh? 367 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Fantastic? And once upon a time I asked a Bengals 368 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: running back, Hey, is this a water shed game? And 369 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, man, it's gonna be hot out there. 370 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to drink a lot of water. 371 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: But tomorrow maybe maybe he. 372 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: Was right, that's exactly right. I think it was even 373 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: a preseason game. But anyway, it truly is a watershed 374 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: game tomorrow, Jimmy with the Steelers at five and four 375 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: or the Bengals that's three and six. A victory draws 376 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals within one game of the division lead. Tomorrow, 377 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: it is a must win. 378 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it actually is. Uh you know, but when you 379 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 6: look at when you look at it, you know, if 380 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 6: you they really we've got to get the defense together right, 381 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 6: just get that defense playing, slowing teams down a little bit. 382 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: But yes, I mean you look at the division We're 383 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 6: right there. Just makes makes something. The positive happened on 384 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: the defensive side of the ball. Continue with the craziness 385 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 6: the offense is playing. It's Uh, it's pretty amazing how 386 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: well the offense is playing with Joe Flacco, you know what, 387 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 6: really moving the ball easily. 388 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, and just looking at some of 389 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: the numbers, Uh, he's been phenomenal. And then even against 390 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in his career, twelve victories, thirty touchdown passes, and 391 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: five fourth quarter comebacks. So Joe Flacco, what a blessing 392 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: this guy has been for the Cincinnati Bengals with Joe 393 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Burrow being down, and he's done everything he possibly can 394 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: do to help this team win. 395 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 8: It's so true. 396 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 6: And think about those numbers you just talked about earlier 397 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 6: in his career when it was Baltimore Pittsburgh. Those are 398 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 6: two of the best defenses in football in those games 399 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 6: were so physical, and yet he was putting up great 400 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 6: numbers even then. 401 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And what a gamer. The guy is 402 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: forty years old in playing at such a high level 403 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: and it certainly helps to have Wow his weapons. Now 404 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: he's down one here with Sama J. P Ryan being out, 405 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: but when you can have man your two wide receivers 406 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: in Jamar Chase and t Higgins and others with your 407 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: tight ends, he's he's gonna beloving this offense. 408 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what wasn't After the first Pittsburgh game, 409 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: he was talking to his brothers or something or his 410 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 6: family and he was laughing about throwing to those guys 411 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 6: and the catches they made and how easy it was. 412 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 6: And yeah, I've got to imagine I can't think of 413 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 6: a time. Maybe when he threw to Steve Smith, but 414 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: that was toward the end of Steve Smith's career. I 415 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 6: don't know if he's ever played with two guys in 416 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 6: the prime of their career in an offense. You know 417 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 6: that's capable of, you know, getting them the ball on 418 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 6: the stamore on the field. 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: You're right, and you know, looking at the injury report, 420 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: And we had Debuty arm Brewster on at the top 421 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: of the show and he said, the Bengals are gonna win. 422 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: He's got me ready to run through a wall here 423 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: and dare I say with with snot bubbles? He said, 424 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: you watch the Bengals win tomorrow. Yeah, Burrow, Jermaine Burton, 425 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, Shamar Stewart placed on IR he's out for 426 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: four games, and Sama jp Ryan being down. So you 427 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: add all that up. Your two starting defensive ends are out. Yeah, 428 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: in the Bengals win. Would that be just crazy, but 429 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: it would be nice. 430 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 6: It would be nice. But what I noticed there weren't 431 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: any offensive linemen on there, and they're actually playing pretty well, 432 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 6: and there's two young guys up front on the two 433 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: guards are actually playing pretty well right now, So that's 434 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 6: really encouraging. On the off the side of the ball. 435 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: I liked some part of what they did against the 436 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: Bears late. They were putting a lot of pressure on 437 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 6: and Caleb Williams there at the end of the game 438 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 6: and then he escaped and made that run and then 439 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 6: the throw you know, down the middle of the field, 440 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 6: But they were putting some pressure on him. So it's 441 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 6: just put a little bit try and get some pressure. 442 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: You rather way to get pressure. If you're not getting 443 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 6: it normally, you got probably manufacture some ways. And then 444 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 6: these guys have to cover their butts off. NODJ Turner's 445 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 6: doing it. Yes, they turned it last time against DK 446 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: metcalf Man. He just shut him down. If we can 447 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 6: get a couple other guys doing similar type things, uh 448 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 6: dives has a chance to do pretty well on the 449 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 6: depth chart. 450 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: It looks like Josh fig Newton has taken over uh 451 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: one of the corners over Cam Taylor Britt. Who, man, 452 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: you look at Cam Taylor Britt and I thought Pro 453 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Bowl potential and yet the inconsistency is striking. So Geno Stone, 454 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Battle your safeties, DJ Turner, Josh Newton, h Dax 455 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Hill as your your nickel corner. These guys have to 456 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: step forward, and you hope that Joseph Osai and Gosh 457 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Miles Murphy, BJ Hill, TJ. Slayton could get some kind 458 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: of pressure on on uh On, the Steelers quarterback who 459 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: is starting to show his age big. 460 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: Time at times. He certainly didn't the last time the 461 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 6: Bengals played him. So we'll see what happens this time. 462 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 6: Hopefully what we saw the last couple of games is 463 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 6: more like what we see tomorrow. So you know, it's 464 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 6: interesting with Cam Taylor Brett. The potential is still there, 465 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 6: but I think he's lost confidence because it's he has 466 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 6: sets up and down plays. I mean it's not even games, 467 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 6: it's from play to play and play a great play 468 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 6: and then turn around and just completely look like he's 469 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 6: completely lost on the play, on the covering of guy. 470 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 6: So you know, you wonder you just don't know what's 471 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 6: going on, but confidence so often is a huge thing 472 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 6: when it comes to, you know, anything in general, but 473 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 6: in sports in particular. If you lose a little bit 474 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 6: of confidence and you're playing against world class athletes, as 475 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 6: doesn't go well together. 476 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: You're right. Jim Breech is with us. We'll be together 477 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana, from five 478 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: thirty to eight thirty. Come on out, and if you 479 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: can't make it, I hope you'll listen on Cincinnati's ESPN 480 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty and you'll call in. But it's not that 481 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: tough to get there tomorrow, Jim. Just enter Indiana, take 482 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: exit sixteen toward US fifty and it's the Greendale Lawrenceburg, 483 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Aurora exit. 484 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 6: Awesome. 485 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: Ay check, Yes, sir. 486 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 6: You know what else they could do tomorrow? They could tackle? 487 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: Oh, wouldn't that be nice? 488 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 6: They could tackle. Yes, we're going to be tackling some wings. 489 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 6: They need to be tackling some ball carriers. 490 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. And gosh, everybody's piling on 491 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals, including all kinds of national celebrities, saying that 492 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals played their best defensive game last week. Because 493 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: it was a bye But all jokes aside, the defense 494 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: can step forward here and show some together with this offense, 495 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: maybe they can pull off a victory tomorrow and really 496 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: give this the franchise, the city, the region some hope 497 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: going forward to get the four and six and one 498 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: game away from the Steelers. 499 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ageah, you can only play the game in front 500 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 6: of you, right, and there's no way you can't get 501 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 6: up for a Pittsburgh Steeler game, So they'll be ready 502 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 6: hostile environment. It's got of fun going in those kinds 503 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 6: of environments, so it makes you stick together as a team. 504 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 6: So I just hope the defense offense really come together 505 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: and play with their exceptional games. 506 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: And Jim, we all know how critical special teams are. 507 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: And I know you're awfully proud of Evan McPherson's bounce 508 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: back season this year. Hunter, Ryan Rico, Man, get it 509 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: inside the twenty, don't keep kicking it into the end 510 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: zone and bringing that ball out. So in Charlie Jones 511 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: showing some gosh some chucky sizzle there, which yeas he's 512 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: pretty good that, yes he is. And I remember Tremaine 513 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: Mac talking about following the color and the Bengals helmets 514 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: when he's running back kicks and uh just strange that way. 515 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: And uh, Charlie Jones has a knack for for being 516 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: able to get get through openings. And I don't like 517 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: it when he runs totally across the field. But man, 518 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: hit it up in there and uh with your speed 519 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: and get after it. 520 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, it's about going up the field, 521 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 6: you know, as well as like you go east and 522 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 6: west and Nafali not going to get very far. I 523 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 6: don't care who, maybe Barry Sanders, But apart from that, 524 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 6: it's hard to do. And Charlie does a good job 525 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 6: of that. And you know, you keep hitting it up 526 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 6: there f I a little crease and pop it and 527 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 6: you know, break a tackle or two and you got 528 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 6: a chance to although the one he scored on I 529 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 6: don't know if he even got touched. Yeah, they did 530 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 6: such a great job of blocking well. And then you 531 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 6: gotta do the same on the other side. You got 532 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 6: to you gotta cover the kicks, keep them. If you 533 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 6: can keep them inside the thirty, you know, close to 534 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 6: twenty five, then you can create some you know, additional 535 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 6: yardage on your apart make them go farther for touchdowns 536 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 6: and field goals. 537 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, zat Taylor talked about the DBS being one step 538 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: away or that, you know, the defenders, and man, we 539 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: all know Jim. One step in the National Football League 540 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: might as well be a mile. Yeah, that's how good 541 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 1: these are. It's yeah, that's how good they are. 542 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know if he's I'm sure 543 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 6: he's watching. I know he's watching the same game. But 544 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 6: there have been so many games where guys are running 545 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: wide open. You know, i'd be I think most people 546 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: be fine if there's only a step, but they're making 547 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: a play on the ball. But too often they're not. 548 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 6: There's nobody around receivers, and when they do catch the ball, 549 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 6: they have too much room to make a play. It's 550 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 6: hard to tackle a guy in the open field. If 551 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 6: you get him right when he catches the ball, it's 552 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 6: a lot easier to get him down. But if you're 553 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 6: three or four yards away from him. So yeah, I 554 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 6: hope we see a lot of that where guys are 555 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 6: only a step away or half a step, or you know, 556 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 6: are fighting. 557 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: For the ball. 558 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 6: That would be great, and keep everything in front of him. 559 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 6: They'll be all right. 560 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: And Jim is an alum living in town. I know 561 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: how much this means to you and you're you're compatriots 562 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: for the Bengals to go into Pittsburgh and defeat the Steelers. 563 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 6: Chick anytime the team can beat any team from the 564 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 6: from the division, and I particularly I have a chance 565 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 6: to do it twice. That's just icing on the cake. Yes, sir, 566 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: love beating those teams. 567 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they do that tomorrow and they'll be three and 568 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: oh in the division. It's crazy. 569 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, change the pace from the previous few years and 570 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 6: just have to have a close over the last several 571 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 6: weeks like they have last few years. 572 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Caleb Williams and the Bears have 573 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: never had in their long and story history a four 574 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: thousand yard passer and Caleb Williams could be that guy 575 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: this year and who launched his career the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes, 576 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: we're used to launching careers. 577 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, those guys, those unknown guys are or young guys 578 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 6: do well against the Bengals. Yes, over the years, it's. 579 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: Not like just this year, but over many years. 580 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: Yes. Well, Jimmy, looking forward to tomorrow and being with 581 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: you and at the Greendale, Indiana Wings and Rings from 582 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: five thirty to eight thirty. We'll break down a Bengals 583 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: victory like a wrecking ball tomorrow. Don Drake Check, thank 584 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us tonight. Appreciate you all right. 585 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, looking forward to im seeing it tomorrow and spend 586 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 6: a little of time talking about Bengal when. 587 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: Yes, how sweet it will be. Thanks so much, Jimmy, 588 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Hi check one and fifty one points the 589 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Bengals career all time leading scorer and my co host 590 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty from five 591 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: thirty to eight thirty. And a big shout out to 592 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: tonight's producer Sean McMahon. Fellow elder grad I'm a b 593 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: he's a bear cat. When we come back after the 594 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: top of the hour, news man, we are going to 595 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: talk you see football on seven hundred WLW. 596 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: Listening to a woman shop in the produce section isn't funny? 597 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, a sail on cucumbers. 598 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 9: Listening to a woman poot next to the Granny smithsops 599 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 9: is funny. Eddie and Rocky are also funny. So when 600 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 9: you think of an apple farterer oops, think of Eddie 601 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 9: and Rocky. 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Well, today didn't start off 612 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: so well. Noon kickoff in front of an incredible crowd 613 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: at the Wrigley Field of College Football, Knippert Stadium. I 614 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: was pumped, the crowd was pumped. You see, had two 615 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: weeks to prepare for the Arizona Wildcats and on the 616 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: very first play of this game on offense, Brandon Soorsby 617 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: throws an interception. Do you see Bearcats lose to the 618 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: Arizona Wildcats thirty to twenty four. And I want to 619 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: bring in tonight's producer, University of Cincinnati grad Sean McMahon. 620 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: All I can think of, Sean, is a missed opportunity. 621 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: And what might have been for the UC Bearcats. 622 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a stinger today for sure, But by no 623 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 10: means is this a bad loss in the sense that 624 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 10: you see lost to a bad team. I mean, Arizona 625 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 10: is a very respectable program, very respectable team. 626 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: This year. 627 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 10: They've got some pretty good wins. They had the Arizona 628 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 10: State win earlier this year. They also went I think 629 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 10: they went I'm sorry they were at home against Hawaii, 630 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 10: but they they had a I take it back, David 631 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 10: lost to Iowa State as well. I thought they won 632 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 10: that game, but they had beat Kansas State. They went 633 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 10: out dominated Colorado. They went out and beat Kansas yep, 634 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 10: twenty four to twenty. You know that's that was a 635 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 10: six and three team coming into Nippert And you know, 636 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 10: I hope I don't think anybody was necessarily overlooking Arizona, 637 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 10: but it kind of feels like some people maybe looking 638 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 10: forward to the BYU game and focusing on the Big 639 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 10: twelve championship. 640 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Not that the team was per se, but you know, 641 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: this is a really this was a really good team. 642 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 10: Brent Brennan's got a good thing going with his program 643 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 10: out there for Arizona, and you know, they just they 644 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 10: just had the They just had UC's number today, and 645 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 10: Brendan Soorsby didn't have his strongest game. He was playing 646 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 10: on a bit of a bad angle. He got tackled 647 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 10: in the second half, yes, and you could see he 648 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 10: wass He was visibly limping throughout most of the second half. 649 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 10: So that kind of limits, you know, the way that 650 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 10: you can play the game, because a big part of 651 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 10: UC's offense is Brendan Sorosby being able to get outside 652 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 10: the pocket and run down field when there's nothing down there. 653 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: And you know, when you limit the offense that way, 654 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: it can hurt a lot. 655 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 10: And it was pretty clear that without Evan pryor without 656 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 10: Brendan Soorsby being able to run, that really stifled them 657 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 10: in the second in the second half. And it's kind 658 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 10: of been a problem with UC all year in the 659 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 10: second half is their offense has just kind of gone dormant, 660 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 10: especially in the third quarter, especially right the third quarter. Yes, yeah, 661 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 10: today it was the second quarter. They had zero points. 662 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 10: They came out the gates, you know, struggling with an interception, 663 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 10: but then they came right back on the field, scored 664 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 10: a touchdown, tied the game up, and then from there 665 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 10: it was off to the races, and unfortunately Arizona just 666 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 10: had the better of them today. I got to give 667 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 10: credit to Arizona's defense. They're one of the best actually 668 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 10: in the country. They got a really good quarterback and 669 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 10: Noah Fafida. They got good wide receivers, So you know, 670 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 10: that's that's a good team. And yeah, like you were 671 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 10: telling me earlier, chick hopes of Dallas fading for the 672 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 10: Cats quickly, it's not totally over, but you know, with 673 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 10: two games left in the season, it's not looking great 674 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 10: for you see in terms of the Big Twelve championship hopes. 675 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 10: But I got to say being seven and three beats 676 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 10: the heck out of being three in eight or three 677 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 10: and seven. 678 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's been tough the last couple of seasons 679 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: for the Bearcats, but you. 680 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 10: Know, to be back in the position that they're in 681 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 10: right now, I'm happy to see the programs doing well. 682 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 10: I'm happy to see fans enjoying the excitement of this 683 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 10: team because I think there is a lot to celebrate 684 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 10: about this year's team. But doesn't make smaller and today's 685 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 10: loss any easier. 686 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, the twenty fifth ranked Bearcats will no doubt drop 687 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: out of the top twenty five. They are bull eligible, 688 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: which is a huge positive. I think the arrow is 689 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: pointing up with this program. I'm hoping brendan swersby sticks 690 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: around next year and doesn't go pro. Although the quarterback 691 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: class is not that great, he would definitely get drafted. 692 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: But I would love to see them come back and 693 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: just continue to see this program improve. You know, I'm 694 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: looking at the Big twelve standings right now, and there 695 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: are six teams really within a game of one another 696 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: with either one or two losses, and the Bearcats are 697 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: among them. And they will host BYU next week and 698 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: then go to TCU. They have to win both. It'll 699 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: take a miracle to get to Dallas. But hope springs eternal. 700 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: It's just a missed opportunity today after going up fourteen 701 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: to seven, and then yeah, having opportunities to score they 702 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: weren't able to. And then Arizona scored on their final 703 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: five possessions starting late second quarter. 704 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, and another thing too, chick, and this is kind 705 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 10: of what killed you see today, was the fact that 706 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 10: they just couldn't get a stop. Their defense just couldn't 707 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 10: get off the field. I got to have credit to 708 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 10: the d line I thought they held up pretty well today. 709 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 10: They got to know Fafiita quite a bit, but when 710 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 10: it came to those third and long situations, they just 711 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 10: kept giving them up. 712 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 5: You know. 713 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 10: Their corners were just getting burned left and right. And 714 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 10: a lot of that is credit to Noah Fafida as 715 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 10: a quarterback for Arizona, you know, because he was just 716 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 10: putting the ball in the right spot. His receivers were 717 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 10: making pretty darn good catches. So Chris Hudson was unbelievable. 718 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 719 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Noah Fafita twenty three of thirty one, a 720 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: touchdown and two hundred and ninety four yards, And there 721 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: was a point in the third quarter I believe where 722 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: Brendan Sowersby had only thrown for thirty eight yards. They 723 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: were running the ball awfully well in the first half. 724 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: And then I gotta say this, Sean McMahon, I'm just 725 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: not a fan of the three three five defense of 726 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: the UC Bearcats. Yeah, if you could push a defensive end, okay, 727 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: push him, crease him, and then a guard getting to 728 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: that outside linebacker, man, it's off to the races. And yeah, 729 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona Wildcats were able to rush for one hundred 730 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: and eighty one yards and passed for two ninety four 731 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: and gash the bear catch for four hundred and seventy 732 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: five yards, and you see limited to one hundred and 733 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: fifty four yards passing. They did run for one hundred 734 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: and ninety, but most of that was in the first half. 735 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: And you're right, they couldn't get off the field on 736 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: third down. You see three of twelve on third down. Yeah, 737 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: eight for sixteen for Arizona and they converted like their 738 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: last five and they nearly burned the last six minutes 739 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: off the clock. 740 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 741 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, and another thing too, chick, I think the UC 742 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 10: special teams had a pretty good day today. Mason Fletcher 743 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 10: had had a Max Fletcher rather sorry that's his Mason's 744 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 10: his older brother who was here. Max Fletcher had a 745 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 10: pretty good game. He had a punt that was down 746 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 10: at the one yard line and Arizona just wait ninety 747 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 10: nine yards. Yes, yeah, they just went the length of 748 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 10: the field and that's you know, that's important for them 749 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 10: because they want to drain the clock and or but 750 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 10: also you know, you see had a blocked field goal 751 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 10: first time since twenty twenty two they've had one of those. Yeah, 752 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 10: that's big and they Arizona also missed a field goal 753 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 10: on their prior attempt, So two straight field goals that 754 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 10: don't go Arizona's way. 755 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: Things are looking good for Uce early. 756 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 10: But you know, it's just a tough football team to 757 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 10: go up against an Arizona, And it's just the nature 758 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 10: of the Big Twelve. You know, you can never overlook 759 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 10: any opponent that you play. Not that anybody was overlooking Arizona, 760 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 10: but you know, they're not in the rankings, they're not 761 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 10: in any playoff hunt, they're not in the Big twelve 762 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 10: championship hunt. You know, they're just a good football team. 763 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 10: And I don't think it was a bad loss again 764 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 10: in the sense that it was a bad team. It 765 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 10: was just a bad loss in the sense that you 766 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 10: could have won the game had a couple of things 767 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 10: gone your way, had you played a little bit differently. 768 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 10: And going back to the three three five defense chickster, 769 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 10: I am not. I'm not a defensive coordinator. I don't 770 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 10: pretend to be. I don't know x's and o's of 771 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 10: football quite as well as other people may. But you know, 772 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 10: I missed the days of watching four down linemen. Yes 773 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 10: with UC under Luke Fickle and having you know, maybe 774 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 10: running a four two five, and then you know, I 775 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 10: miss the days of having good cornerbacks too. 776 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: It just was not their day today. 777 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 10: And when you know, when your corners aren't holding it down, 778 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 10: it's hard for your defensive line to do to do 779 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 10: their job too, when they're only rushing so many and 780 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 10: every time they did blitz. Noah, f Alfida just had 781 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 10: an answer. He just had a guy in the open 782 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 10: because you know, the corners for UC just kept getting beat. 783 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 784 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: He looked like a combination Kyle Kyle Murray, Kyler Murray 785 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: and Michael Vick out there. 786 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 787 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: Noah Fafda just just fantastic. And gosh, Michael Salgado Medina 788 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: Medina the Fueld goal kicker, after having a miss then 789 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: a block, he busts that fifty one yarder. Yeah, with 790 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: a buck thirty four to go he had he missed 791 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: that you see, would have been in great field because 792 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: to either come down and either tie it or even 793 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and win it with a touchdown. So yeah, 794 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: Salgado Medina busted that fifty one yarder and that that hurt. 795 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 10: Yeah, in that environment, and you know after the day 796 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 10: he was having up to that point for him to 797 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 10: come out and kick a fifty one yarder, I mean 798 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,479 Speaker 10: that takes guts and he had it on that kick, 799 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 10: So props to him, you know. It just it was 800 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 10: a tough football game and then Bearcats did not come 801 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 10: out on top, and like you said, they'll fall out 802 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 10: of the top twenty five. They're likely out of the 803 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 10: Big twelve championship race. But you know, I think there's 804 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 10: a lot of upside to this season. You know, if 805 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 10: you think about it, there if they're one play away 806 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 10: from beating Nebraska, so they could still be they could 807 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 10: have still been seven and two had that game gone 808 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 10: their way. Yeah, this is a good team, it's not 809 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 10: a great team. You will see how much gas they 810 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 10: have left in the tank with two games left. For me, chickster, 811 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 10: I'm just excited if they can make the Pop Tard 812 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 10: Bowl the best bowl game outside of the college football Playoff, 813 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 10: I'd be thrilled with a Pop Tart bull appearance. 814 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: Well, and what what we saw today was the Arizona 815 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: Wildcats basically copying what the Utah did to him. Uh, 816 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: pressure and single coverage on the outside and we're coming 817 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: after you. So yeah, it's uh, it's a copycat football. 818 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. 819 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 10: And you can and you can tell you see his 820 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 10: offense missus Evan Pryor in the backfield too. Having Tawie 821 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 10: Walker is great. I love Tywie Walker. I think he's 822 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 10: a great running back. But I think having Evan Pryor, 823 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,439 Speaker 10: as you know, kind of your speed running back kind 824 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 10: of it does add another limitation to your offense because 825 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 10: you know with him you can you can run a 826 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 10: lot more speedy based plays, whereas with Tylie Walker he's 827 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 10: more of a power back. So you know, just what 828 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 10: else can you say other than it was a tough game. 829 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 10: Stings to lose, but you got to gear up and 830 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 10: get ready for BYU next week. 831 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: We we don't know when that's kicking off. 832 00:46:59,640 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 2: Still. 833 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 10: I think this is strange that we're a week out 834 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 10: and we still don't know what time that game kicks off. 835 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't get that. I feel like we used to 836 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: know weeks in advance. Oh I know, and I hope 837 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: it's uh. I hope it's a nip at night on Saturday. 838 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: And one positive here is true. Freshman Zion Johnson seven 839 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: carries forty two yards. He scored a touchdown. He had 840 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: a long run of twenty one and he did some 841 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: nice things out there and showed some incredible burst and 842 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: along with Tywee Walker. So yes, Ion Johnson, I hope 843 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: he sticks around, Yes, no doubt. 844 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 845 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 10: And it's it stinks to see too that you don't 846 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 10: see Joe Royer getting the ball more. But it's just 847 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 10: because the defenses know that if they can shut him 848 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 10: down again that you can add another limitation to use 849 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 10: these offense through the air. But you know, Joe Royer 850 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 10: is a great part of the offense. It's just that 851 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 10: defense has figured out they got to shut him down 852 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 10: at all costs, because if you don't, it's going to 853 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 10: be a problem. 854 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: One catch for eight yards, I don't care if you've 855 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: got to throw it tight end screen. Get the ball 856 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: to this guy, Get it to the Elderman to our 857 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: fellow Elder, Gred And speaking of Elder, as bad as 858 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: we are bumming about the UC Bearcats, we are still 859 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: riding high after a incredible what was it thirty two 860 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: thirty two thirty last night? Elder overcoming a twenty three 861 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: to nothing deficit to the awesome Princeton Vikings last night, 862 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: and how Elder pulled that game out in front of 863 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: that crowd at the pit. I mean, people were talking 864 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: about the Molar game this year being the greatest game 865 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: they had seen in a long time. This topped it 866 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: last night. I think it did. I think it did. 867 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 10: I didn't think it was possible. But in a playoff scenario, 868 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 10: you know, it's got to have it. It's winner, go home, 869 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 10: even though you're at home. You know, to have to 870 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 10: be down twenty three to zero after the kickoff of 871 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 10: the second half, come back, tie it up. You go 872 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 10: down to kick a game winning field goal. It gets blocked. 873 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 10: This is Elder, of course, Eldred has the kick blocked. 874 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 10: Princeton returns it for a touchdown. You're thinking, okay, that 875 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 10: that might be it. Right there, that's probably it because 876 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 10: there's about a minute and a half left when that happened, 877 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 10: or so thirty to twenty three at that point, thirty 878 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 10: to twenty three, and then Elder storms down the field, 879 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 10: you know, seventy plus yard touchdown pass Yep from Estep 880 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 10: would shout out to that kid. He's been phenomenal for 881 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,919 Speaker 10: Elder a quarterback this year. But to Jackson Ruth, yeah, 882 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 10: yeah and huge, And you know I was telling you 883 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 10: this earlier, chickster, But you got to give credit to 884 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 10: the players for not mentally checking out and for fighting 885 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 10: all the way to the end, because you go down, 886 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 10: you tie it up, and then you go you somehow 887 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 10: recover an on side kick after your special teams has 888 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 10: not been good all day. Yeah, you go get the 889 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 10: field goal, you take the lead, you recover another on 890 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 10: side kick to seal the deal. I mean, one of 891 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 10: the more unbelievable wins I think I've seen in a 892 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 10: high school football game. 893 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: No doubt about. And after the bottom of the hour news, 894 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: we're going to welcome in Greg Schoemaker of Tri Statefootball 895 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: dot Com and he's already got the pairings out for 896 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: me for our discussion. The Wayne Warriors will face the 897 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: Middletown Middies and the Saint X Bombers will collide with 898 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: the Elder Panthers, who are twelve and oh for the 899 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: first time in their storied football history. How about it? 900 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 10: How about it twelven and you don't lose it the 901 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 10: pit this year and you're twelve and oh for the 902 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 10: first time in history. 903 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: And man, things are looking good for him. Let's just 904 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: hope they can keep it rolling. No doubt. And it's 905 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: so cool to go online and see people from all 906 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: over the country, maybe even over the all over the 907 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: world watching the Elder Panthers and the Chickster was listening 908 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: on Sacred Heart Radio last night when I saw that score. 909 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm following it. It just to twenty 910 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: three to fifteen. I'm all over it listening. And then 911 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: they tie it down score a touchdown, can't get the 912 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: two point conversion, but get the on side kick and 913 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: then a field goal to win it. Crazy, amazing. 914 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 10: Very credit to the players man like I said, not 915 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 10: checking out after being down and just played to the 916 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 10: last whistle and they did. 917 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: That's right. And to Doug Ramsey and his staff, yeah, 918 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: for keeping him upbeat, no doubt. Well, this has been 919 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: an awful lot of fun. Sean McMahon. We really appreciate 920 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: you as the board op tonight and our producer keeping 921 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: the Chickster off the ledge and in the fairway. I'm 922 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: always happy to do it with the Chickster, you know that. 923 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: Fantastic And hey, we're gonna have some fun in the 924 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: eight o'clock hour. And just to put you know, a 925 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: bug in folks ears out there and to see if 926 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: this thing has any legs. We all know what a 927 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: bustman's holiday is when you do something on your free 928 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: time that you normally do for work. Okay, so a 929 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: sports writer like the Chickster used to be man. I 930 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: had a lot of busman's holidays, going to a high 931 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: school game on a Friday night, a college game on 932 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: a Saturday, and then the Bengals on Sunday. So couldn't 933 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: get enough sports as a sports writer. So just think 934 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: about your favorite busman's holiday and what you would like 935 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: to do or what you have done on your free 936 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: time sports wise. So awesome Sewn appreciates you, and hey, 937 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: this is sports talk. Great shoemaker is neext tri Statefootball 938 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: dot Com on seven hundred WLW. 939 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 4: Is it true Tom Brenneman has not only seen the 940 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: Luckness Monster but beat it in chess? I'm not at 941 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 4: liberty to discuss, he said. True, there's a primitive Amazonian 942 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 4: tribe that worships the Fennipac tom Brenneman lost during a 943 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 4: South American vacation. Sounds possible, but not true. Is it 944 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 4: true that listening to Tom Brenneman makes your morning? 945 00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 2: You bet? 946 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent true. 947 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: Join me in the mornings, get your day started right 948 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: with the latest news, weather, traffic, sports, and lots of 949 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: laughs and more. 950 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 4: Tom Brennanman Monday morning at five am on seven hundred WLW. 951 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 4: Hey it's Eddie. 952 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 10: If you meet a new home appliance fast, you gotta 953 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 10: get over to Wrecker and Burger. 954 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,720 Speaker 1: Their warehouse sale is going on now as a sports 955 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 1: talk We're going all the way to nine o'clock tonight. 956 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: In our next guest, nobody covers high school football like 957 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: Greg Shoemaker, the director of operations for tristatefootball dot Com. 958 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: He joins us now, Greg, we've all experienced some great 959 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: evenings of high school football. Where does last night rank? 960 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: It's got to be in your top five. 961 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: Man, Chick. 962 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 8: You know you're sitting here. 963 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 4: You guys are elder guys. 964 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 8: And that was a great finish. I was over at 965 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 8: Indian Hill and watching that Calf game. That one was 966 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 8: just as crazy, which is crazy plays all over the place. 967 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 8: One of those fun nights. 968 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. 969 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 8: It was funny because there was a play in the 970 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,399 Speaker 8: Indian Hill game where Taff was getting ready to score 971 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 8: early in the game and they fumbled the ball on 972 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 8: like the three yard line kid from Indian Hill picks 973 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 8: it up, runs it almost a complete length of the 974 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 8: floor before the turf Monster getsing and he drops the football. 975 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 8: Taff recovers it on the two, turns around, runs ninety 976 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 8: eight yards on the next play for his score. I'm 977 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 8: sitting there talking to the referees on the sideline and 978 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 8: they're like, I've never seen anything like this, and the 979 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 8: other guy just, well, you stick around a long and 980 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 8: if you can find something you've. 981 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 2: Never seen before. 982 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 11: It was just one of those nights. 983 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 984 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 8: I mean, wow, what an ending to a lot of 985 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 8: great games, for sure. 986 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. And Saint Savior takes down Mighty Molor seventeen 987 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: to thirteen to advance, and then to have Elder down 988 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: Greg twenty three to nothing early third quarter after a 989 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: kickoff return for touchdown, and then they have Elder battleback 990 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: tie it. Then a seventy one yard block field goal 991 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: return for the Princeton Vikings. Elder answers with a seventy 992 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: five yard hookup, but they missed the two point conversion, 993 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: but then get the on sidekick and then eventually a 994 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: twenty two yard field goal followed by another on sidekick 995 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: that they recover and Elder wins thirty two to thirty, 996 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,879 Speaker 1: erasing a twenty three to nothing deficit. Just absolutely unbelievable. 997 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 8: Let's talk about Elder for a minute. When the season started, 998 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 8: nobody thought they were going to be at this position. 999 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 8: Twelve to zero, first time in school history, fourth ever 1000 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 8: undefeated regular season in school history, first since nineteen ninety one. 1001 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 8: This team, chick has they're twelve to oh. They have 1002 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 8: seven wins against teams that have nine wins or more 1003 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 8: on the season, another win against a team that has 1004 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 8: eight wins, another team against that has seven wins, and 1005 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 8: two teams that finished the year at six and six. 1006 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 8: This team has won. And wait and all those wins 1007 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 8: only two of them they have to two point wins 1008 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 8: and that everything else is eight points or more. The 1009 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 8: victories for Elder in this season very very impressive resume. 1010 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 6: So they know how to get it done. 1011 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 8: And I mean this, This is going to be an 1012 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 8: unbelievable battle against st X on next Friday night. 1013 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: For sure. 1014 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 1: Do we know where the game is going to be played? 1015 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 8: I do not know that yet. The only one I 1016 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 8: know for sure is the Division four game Valevue and 1017 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 8: Indian Hill will be at Fairfield. That's the only one 1018 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 8: I've seen it come across. So OHSAA hasn't announced that yet. 1019 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 8: I would imagine that. 1020 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,399 Speaker 12: Game will be I would. 1021 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if it's at Welcome Stadium. 1022 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and after Elder defeated Saint X and Moler 1023 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,439 Speaker 1: back to back, I'm there, Hey, you're gonna run into 1024 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: one of these guys again, you know, in the playoffs. 1025 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: And so the number three seed Saint Xavier bombers at 1026 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: nine and two against the number one seed Elder Panthers 1027 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: twelve and zero. Wow, what can we expect from this thing? 1028 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy? 1029 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, So you know, and it's funny. I didn't get 1030 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,959 Speaker 8: back to something on on Friday night's win. Last night's 1031 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 8: win for Elder, Elder wore down Princeton. 1032 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 2: In that game, they ran. 1033 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 8: Eighty five offensive plays and princidentally ran like forty two 1034 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 8: or forty three. So and in the first matchup this year, 1035 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 8: Elder won the game I think twenty three thirteen. They 1036 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 8: won by ten. Kataney stepped the quarterback there. He had 1037 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 8: his way running and throwing the football. Saint x is 1038 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 8: going to have to contain him. Sat X sauts star 1039 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 8: Daniel Ballmer. He's he's he's playing three games now against Elder. 1040 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 8: He's a Vanderbilt committee's going to play linebacker there. But 1041 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 8: and it's three games against the Elder. In his career, 1042 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 8: he's averaged two hundred and twenty nine all purpose yards 1043 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 8: per game. He had two hundred and eighty one yards 1044 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 8: rushing as a sophomore, and then he's had like, you know, 1045 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 8: sixty to seventy yards in three games against him receiving 1046 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 8: the football. He's return kicks in these games. So both teams, 1047 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 8: you know, Stants is going to have to contain Eastep 1048 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 8: and Elder's going to have to contain Volmer if they're 1049 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 8: going to get through. Either one is going to get 1050 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 8: through the next game. So it would be very very 1051 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 8: interesting to see how that goes. But right now, I mean, gosh, 1052 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 8: Moeler gave or sat Next gave up four hundred and 1053 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 8: nine yards to Molar last last night and still ended 1054 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 8: up winning that game, only allowing them three opportunities to score, 1055 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 8: and two of those were field goal attempts by Jack Malabar, 1056 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 8: the Molar kicker, who was who's been fantastic all season. 1057 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 8: He had another couple of great field goals last night 1058 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 8: for the Crusaders and the loss. 1059 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: Wow. And Division one Region two. Wayne defeated Troy last night. 1060 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 1: That game was on Spectrum in my area. And then 1061 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: they faced the Middletown Midies. Wow. What a job Middletown 1062 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: has done rebuilding that program. 1063 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, College Jones. Two years ago he led with Road 1064 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 8: to the regional championship game and they lost that one. 1065 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 8: But I mean you know here, two years later, he 1066 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 8: rebuilds the Middletown program. Middletown's given up just seven point 1067 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 8: six points per game and four shutouts in their last 1068 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 8: nine games. They've been fantastic defensively. They got guys all 1069 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 8: over the field. And we talked about Daniel Ballmer being 1070 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 8: a versatile player for Saint Xavier. Jordan Vans that same 1071 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 8: sort of player for Middletown. He does a lot of 1072 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 8: different things and a lot of different areas and can 1073 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 8: win a game for you. Now, Wayne, they were in 1074 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 8: the regional championship last year and lost to league rival 1075 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 8: Centerville in that game. They know how to play in 1076 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 8: this game. Their sophomore quarterback how well her Uh. It'll 1077 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 8: be interesting to see how he bears in this They've 1078 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 8: got a fantastic wide receiver in Jamior Avertt Brown. He 1079 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 8: had I think six touches last night and almost two 1080 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 8: hundred dollar purpose yards. He had a rushing touchdown and 1081 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 8: a punt return for a touchdown. He's a junior, but 1082 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 8: he's already committed to Ohio State, and he is one 1083 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 8: of those early nil money guys in high school. He's 1084 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 8: making some big bucks already. He's the first of what's 1085 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 8: to come here, and it's sort of it's sort of 1086 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 8: interesting to follow this tat because he's breaking the ground 1087 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 8: and watching him. 1088 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Gosh, I'm looking at uh gosh, Jeremiah Smith clone in 1089 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: a way, a younger, a younger version he's that. He's 1090 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: that impressive. And Wayne coached by Roosevelt Mukes, a Wayne 1091 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: grad and University of Cincinnati former star. So love Rosie 1092 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: up there at Huber Heights Wayne, And one last time, yeah, 1093 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 1: one last. 1094 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 8: Kylie Jones as a Middletown head coach is also a 1095 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 8: Wayne graduate as well, so it's a homecoming for him 1096 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 8: in that ball game. 1097 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Incredible. And one last thing here about elder Man, a 1098 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,360 Speaker 1: shout out to the players for not giving up at 1099 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: twenty three to nothing and the staff of Ramsey, Doug 1100 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Ramsey just a phenomenal job. 1101 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, and those guys have been there forever. It's great 1102 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 8: to see Doug having a year like this thirty years 1103 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 8: into his career. It's uh, you know, I mean, it's 1104 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,919 Speaker 8: it's a special time. And man, that defense, we didn't 1105 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 8: talk about it, but Derrick gran and the player of 1106 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 8: the year in the Southwest District and Division one on 1107 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 8: defense of Virginia commit. He's had a fantastic year. But 1108 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 8: they're linebackers. They got Fort Camps and Dugan on there 1109 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 8: too as well. That's a that's a fantastic group. And 1110 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 8: I think there's a Turner kid over there in that 1111 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 8: linebacker mix than Those linebackers are about as good MDEP 1112 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 8: as you can get. That's what makes them so special. 1113 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 8: They have a room really good defense and they don't 1114 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 8: let stuff behind him at all. 1115 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1116 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: In Kentucky, we're into the third round of the playoffs. 1117 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: In Indiana, we've got the semi state going on. Man 1118 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Milin just wanted second regional title in school history last 1119 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: time nineteen ninety six host in South putting them so. 1120 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: A lot of great football around the tri State great Shoemaker. 1121 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, and the Milin story is a great story. 1122 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 8: You know, we know them from Hoosiers and that basketball story, 1123 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 8: but they're writing their own little Hoosier chapter over here. 1124 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 8: They're head coach Ryan Langerman. He's in his eighteenth season 1125 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 8: there and he was on that team that won in 1126 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 8: nineteen ninety six the re or the regional championship. He's 1127 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 8: got two sons, a junior Grant who's a great defensive 1128 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 8: player and a freshman Beckett, who has just who went 1129 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 8: over a thousand yards rushing last night as a freshman. 1130 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 8: So he's got two kids on the team. Great story 1131 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 8: right there, and I can't wait to follow that one 1132 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 8: all week because somebody's going to get out there and 1133 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 8: catch that one. It's a great story. 1134 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 2: To be told. 1135 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 8: The lang for Menzon and Myland Indians football for sure. 1136 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: And Greg Shoemaker with us from tristatefootball dot com. He 1137 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 1: is the director of operations. Nobody covers high school football 1138 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: like Greg and his crew. And man, I'm looking around 1139 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: Kentucky here and some usual suspects Highlands, Cuvecath, Beachwood Man. 1140 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: Great programs. 1141 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 2: Really are? 1142 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 8: I mean if Highlands and CUBCAF win. They're going to 1143 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 8: be facing each other next week for a chance to 1144 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 8: get to the state championships. I'd be a final four matchup. 1145 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 8: In Class four A Lloyd twelve and zero for the 1146 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 8: first time since nineteen ninety five. Fantastic here for them 1147 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 8: as well, and Beachwood. Beachwoods averaging fifty plus points per game. 1148 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 8: And in Class two A it's nothing but Juggernauts left 1149 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 8: Belfree and Mayfield and Beachwood just the best of the 1150 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 8: best in Division or Class two A there in Kentucky, and. 1151 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Once again for the folks out there Division one Wayne 1152 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: against Middletown sainte X against Elder and in Division two 1153 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: Trotwood Madison, the Rams in their principal, Michael McCrae. God 1154 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: I covered him when he played up at Dunbar back 1155 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: in the day. He's the principal now at TM and 1156 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: they are eight and three going up against the Anderson 1157 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: Raptors twelve and oh incredible. And the Valley Vue Spartans 1158 01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: right there in Germantown, home of one Kyle Schwarber eleven 1159 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 1: and one going against Indian Hill the Braves at twelve 1160 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and oh so man still some undefeated's out there, Greg. 1161 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, some good stuff out there, by the way. Mike McCrae, 1162 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 8: I saw him in that state championship game at senior 1163 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 8: year at Dayton Dunbar and his son. Mike's, yes, a 1164 01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 8: recruiting coordinator up at UMass Now when he was in 1165 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 8: there at Trotwood Madison getting recruited before he went to Michigan, 1166 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 8: Mike two, I was in there telling him. I said, yeah, 1167 01:04:58,360 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 8: I saw your dad playing a high school I said, 1168 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 8: here's one heck of a rebounder. But he couldn't jump 1169 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 8: over the Yellow Springs bow book. 1170 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, I repped volleyball there. He came up on 1171 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: a break, gave me a big hug man, some great, 1172 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: great memories and gosh, all the guys at Wayne, oh 1173 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, with Roosevelt Mukes and and the Red brothers, 1174 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: the cousins and Ronnie Red and yeah, just great great 1175 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: people up there. And what a gosh consistency with with 1176 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Wayne High School in Hubert Heights. 1177 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1178 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And they do a great job. 1179 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 8: You know, Jay Minton did a great job up there beforehand, 1180 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 8: and you just look at you know, look at Marcus 1181 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 8: Freeman at Notre Dame and you look at Collie Jones's 1182 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 8: doing what he's doing at Middletown and Rose He's doing 1183 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 8: what he's doing at his alma mater, and uh, just 1184 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 8: just great players have come through there, you know, Braxton 1185 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 8: Miller and man just you know the Tingers, Dolls and 1186 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 8: the Padillas that have come through there. And you've got 1187 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 8: kids at the highest gate and you see from those 1188 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 8: families playing now. So uh, they've done it right up there, 1189 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 8: they really have, and they you know they could break through. 1190 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 8: But mean, one heck of a game against Middletown, that's 1191 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 8: for sure. 1192 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Beautiful. And Greg, how about your coverage this this next weekend? 1193 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, so look, I mean. 1194 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 8: If you go to Tri Statefootball dot Com right now, Uh, 1195 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 8: there's all kinds of great stuff from this past weekend. Interviews, recaps, 1196 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 8: photo galleries, all kinds of great stuff all over that 1197 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 8: that site. 1198 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 2: This weekend. Yeah, we'll be we'll have. 1199 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 8: Guys after the big school state championship games. I know 1200 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 8: we're going to get pictures from the Milan game against 1201 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 8: South Putnam. That's gonna be good. We'll have a gallery 1202 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 8: on our site there. We'll have some people over in 1203 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 8: Kentucky covering, but most of all, we'll be covering the 1204 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 8: Moeller and Saint X game, or I'm sorry, the Elder 1205 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 8: and Saint X game, and then you know Trice High 1206 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 8: School football tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN 1207 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 8: fifteen thirty. That'll be before and after the Saint X 1208 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 8: Elder game. So we'll be on and we'll have coach 1209 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 8: interviews in the post game. We had specta on last 1210 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 8: week or last Friday or last night after the win. 1211 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 8: Paul Wiggins from Newport joined us last night after they 1212 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 8: knocked off Holy Cross and ended their regular season, perfect 1213 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 8: season and just some good stuff, so we'll have more 1214 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 8: of that all weekend. It'll be a great Friday night 1215 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 8: for sure on Fox Sports thirteen sixty in ESPN fifteen 1216 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 8: thirty and tri Statefootball dot Com as well. 1217 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Gosh, Greg, we were blessed with great weather last night. 1218 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: All those Elder Panthers under around the shirtless last night 1219 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: at the Pitt Elder Stadium. But we've been pretty well 1220 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,240 Speaker 1: blessed here with great weather this fall, we really have, 1221 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: and I think. 1222 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 8: We might end up having another decent game like that 1223 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 8: as well, So let's take it while we can. It 1224 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 8: doesn't happen this late in years as well as it does. 1225 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 8: And you know, at this time usually running the football 1226 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 8: is a big thing and passing the football gets difficult, 1227 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 8: but yet it is yet to happen. I saw, I 1228 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 8: saw a forty seven yard field goal last night and 1229 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 8: in the second week in November. It's that's pretty rare. 1230 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:08,800 Speaker 2: This time of year. 1231 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. 1232 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 8: It was good to see that. You know, the kids 1233 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 8: can play in element they don't have to play in 1234 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 8: the elements. They can play their games in great weather. 1235 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 1: It's awesome, well fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, director of operations for 1236 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 1: Tri Statefootball dot Com and your entire crew. Is there 1237 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 1: anybody else you want to mention with your with your team? 1238 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I like to thank all our guys this 1239 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 8: year to coming out and seeing us are working for 1240 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 8: Jake Berkameyer does a great job. Him and Daniel Coone. 1241 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,759 Speaker 8: They do their own podcast uh sefwan Alvi. He always 1242 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 8: joins me on Friday nights on the post game version 1243 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 8: of High School Football Tonight. James Sprague is always out 1244 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 8: covering James Forrest, Brandon Lampley as well. I've got a 1245 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 8: good group over there. They've been there with us for 1246 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 8: a few years now, and I'm really proud of that group. 1247 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 8: And of course Dan Klaskin is my business partner over there. 1248 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 8: He does this thing, making sure this whole thing keeps 1249 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 8: taking week to week and we're all happy and getting 1250 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 8: our assignments completed. 1251 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: All fantastic. Greg Shoemaker, thank you so much for joining 1252 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: us tonight and talking high school football. Nothing like Friday 1253 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: night lights and Saturday night too. Appreciate you. 1254 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 4: Thanks so good man, Chick. 1255 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 8: I'll talk to you soon, all. 1256 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,839 Speaker 1: Right, Greg Shoemaker, always appreciate it. Hey, this is Sports 1257 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Talk with your host Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW. 1258 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: He slams at all. 1259 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 13: It's a Sunday showdown when you see meets Mount Saint 1260 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 13: Mary's on the hardwood. Can the bear Cans bring an 1261 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 13: avalanche of alley oops? Or will the Mountaineers climb off 1262 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 13: with a win? Catch the call live tomorrow at five 1263 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 13: point thirty pm on seven hundred WLW or stream seven 1264 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 13: hundred WLW on the iHeartRadio. 1265 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: App Johnny the kids didn't come home last night? Along 1266 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: the Central Texas Plane five thousand, eight O nine in 1267 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 1: the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig seven hundred w 1268 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: l W. This is Sports Talk. Sean McMann is tonight's 1269 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: producer and we are going all the way to nine 1270 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: o'clock tonight, and that's when Jason Williams of the Cincinnati 1271 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com takes you from nine to midnight. 1272 01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate all our guests so far tonight. Dave Yiddi Armbrewster, 1273 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: the director of sports operations here for iHeartMedia Cincinnati, join 1274 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: me at the top of the show to talk Red's baseball. 1275 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Jim Breach, the career scoring leader for the Bengals with 1276 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: one and fifty one points, join me at the bottom 1277 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 1: of the six o'clock hour to talk Bengals and Steelers, 1278 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: and Jim and I will be co hosting postgame sports 1279 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Talk tomorrow, Wings and Rings Greendale, Indiana from five point 1280 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: thirty to eight to five thirty to eight thirty tomorrow, 1281 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: strictly on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty because U se basketball. 1282 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: We'll take over the airwaves right here on seven hundred WLW. 1283 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I hope you'll come on out. You'll enter Indiana and 1284 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 1: take Exit sixteen toward US fifty and take the Greendale Lawrenceburg, 1285 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Aurora exit and we're gonna have some fun tomorrow with 1286 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana. And then Greg Shoemaker 1287 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: joined us to talk high school football. Well, we have 1288 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:16,640 Speaker 1: all heard the term busman's holiday. It's a vacation or 1289 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: a form of recreation that involves doing basically the same 1290 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 1: thing that you do at work, Okay, and I had 1291 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: my share of busman's holidays as a sports writer at 1292 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the Dayton Daily News. Just to give you a couple 1293 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 1: of examples, I covered Wright State basketball in the Horizon 1294 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,719 Speaker 1: League for ten years and there were times when Wright 1295 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: State would be playing the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee in 1296 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: the Old Mecca where Marquette used to play, Okay, for 1297 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 1: like an afternoon game or an evening game, and at 1298 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: the same time that day, or at a different time 1299 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: that day Dayton, the Flyers would be in Milwaukee facing 1300 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Marquette at the Bradley Center back then. So with the 1301 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 1: times being different, I was able to finagle a press 1302 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: pass to go see the Flyers and Marquette play on 1303 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 1: the same day that Wright State played. So that is 1304 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 1: a busman's holiday. When a bus driver rides the bus 1305 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,719 Speaker 1: on his off day, Okay, that's where it all stems 1306 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 1: from and there were times when Hey, I would cover 1307 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 1: a high school game on a Friday night, high school football, 1308 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: and then if I would be off on Sunday, hey 1309 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: go to a Bengals game and then even catch a 1310 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 1: college football game on Saturday ud or the Ohio State University, 1311 01:13:54,720 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 1: my alma mater, when I wasn't working. So what would 1312 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 1: be your ideal busman's holiday? Maybe you've experienced one, or 1313 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 1: you would like to experience it. Man, I would love 1314 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: to hear from you. We're opening up the phone lines 1315 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: for the first time at five one, three, seven four nine, 1316 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one and first 1317 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 1: out of the gate here he's been waiting a while. 1318 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:32,560 Speaker 1: Our good friend in Dayton, Richard Dick. It wouldn't be 1319 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 1: a show without you, man. How are you? 1320 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 6: How are you check? 1321 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: Great? How are you? 1322 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 14: Hey? 1323 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 9: Chick? 1324 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 11: It's ten to nothing. 1325 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 1: The buck guys are rocking, buddy, Well, I've got it 1326 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,520 Speaker 1: on the big screen here in the seven hundred WLW studios, 1327 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,160 Speaker 1: and I hope Julian's saying the quarterback of the Buckeyes, 1328 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,839 Speaker 1: who've got pushed and uh yeah, some bumps and bruises, 1329 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 1: but they're off to a good start here ten to 1330 01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,640 Speaker 1: nothing over Ucla. 1331 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, I just wanted to tell you too about a 1332 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 11: busman's holiday was uh. I think it was back when 1333 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 11: you were covering the the uh the Bengals and we 1334 01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 11: got to go uh just saw your Point and play 1335 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 11: there during tall Stacks and I could see, you know, 1336 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 11: uh all all the uh steamboats came in and we 1337 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 11: went down to party a little bit. I think we 1338 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 11: went to uh that place and uh was its Uh 1339 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 11: I'm trying to think and uh Westchester. 1340 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:31,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 1341 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 11: We we stopped at Burbanks and had lunch. But yeah, 1342 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 11: this people, it was really nice. You know, we were city, 1343 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 11: you know where saw your Point was. Yes, but we 1344 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 11: were playing and just the people. It was a beautiful day. 1345 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,040 Speaker 11: But you know it was just really nice, chick. 1346 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 1347 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, gosh, I remember going quite often 1348 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: to see University of Cincinnati put on play on the 1349 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: showboat Majestic right there, you know, right there at the 1350 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: foot of the landing. Was just awesome. 1351 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 11: Yes, what can we Maybe I'll give you a prediction? 1352 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 11: Can I go twenty seven four tomorrow? 1353 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 8: Oh? 1354 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,479 Speaker 1: I would love it? Yeah, with Ohio State or with 1355 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals on top of the Steelers. 1356 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm hoping the defense has to produce, don't they. 1357 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: It sure does, it absolutely does. Have a good night, 1358 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate it, Thank you very much, Dick. All right, 1359 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: what is your favorite busman's holiday, whether you went on 1360 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 1: one or would like to experience one? And oh man 1361 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:48,760 Speaker 1: being in Philadelphia when Dayton entered the Atlantic ten and 1362 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 1: they shipped me the Dayton Daily News ship me to 1363 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 1: Philadelphia for a weekend. It was just incredible seeing Dayton 1364 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 1: and LaSalle play then. And that was on a Thursday 1365 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: night at the Philly Civic Center. The next night I'm 1366 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 1: at McGonagall Hall on the campus at Temple University watching 1367 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 1: Temple play Rhode Island. And then that Saturday, Wright stayed 1368 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 1: against LaSalle at the Palaestra. So what a unbelievable weekend 1369 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 1: I had in Philadelphia. Just tremendous, great memories. Hey, a 1370 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: story broke this week ESPN's Dan Orlovsky, former quarterback, talking 1371 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: about Ohio State head coach Ryan Day. He would like 1372 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Day to become head coach of the New York 1373 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 1: Football Giants. And I'm saying, Ryan, don't do it. Don't 1374 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 1: even think about it. And I did some research here 1375 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: on six former coaches and current coaches that tried to 1376 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 1: go from college to pro and it just didn't quite 1377 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: work out. And I want to start way back in 1378 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 1: the year that I graduated from the Ohio State University 1379 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six. Lou Holtz coached the New York 1380 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Jets in nineteen seventy six. He had come from NC 1381 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: State and he took over the New York Jets. He 1382 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,759 Speaker 1: resigned that year with one game left in the season. 1383 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: He resigned when the Jets were three and ten, and 1384 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,720 Speaker 1: he said God just didn't mean for him to be 1385 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,760 Speaker 1: an NFL coach. Then he went on to Arkansas, Minnesota, 1386 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: Notre Dame in South Carolina. Lou Holtz. The Jets finished 1387 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 1: three and eleven that year, but Lou resigned with one 1388 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 1: game left in that nineteen seventy six season. And then 1389 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 1: how about Bobby Petrino taking over the Falcons in two 1390 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. He was charged with developing Michael Vick 1391 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 1: as a total quarterback. He was a tremendous runner. The 1392 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,600 Speaker 1: problem that Patrino found in two thousand and seven was 1393 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:45,000 Speaker 1: Michael Vick was bankrolling that dog fighting scheme and he 1394 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to leave the Great State of Virginia. He 1395 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 1: wound up being out of football and the problem with 1396 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:01,880 Speaker 1: the Falcons that year they t the off season, Matt 1397 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: Schaub traded him to the Houston Texans, so the Falcons 1398 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: were strapped at quarterback with Joey Harrington, Byron Lefwich and 1399 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Chris Redman. And speaking of three and ten, Bobby Petrino 1400 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 1: resigned after a three and ten start and took the 1401 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 1: head coaching job at the University of Arkansas. Mike Zimmer 1402 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 1: was his defensive coordinator. All of a sudden, he was 1403 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: out of a job, and he led us to believe. 1404 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,160 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer that if he ever ran into Bobby Patrino 1405 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: he might put him in a book garbage can. He 1406 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 1: was that upset. But Mike Zimmer eventually became defensive cordator 1407 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,080 Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals and is one of my favorite coaches. 1408 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: How about Cam Cameron Okay five years at Indiana University 1409 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,120 Speaker 1: from night eighteen ninety seven through two thousand and one. 1410 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 1: Then he became the San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator from 1411 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:13,160 Speaker 1: two through six. He was given he was he was 1412 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: given the Miami Dolphins head coaching job in two thousand 1413 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: and seven. He went one in fifteen before moving on 1414 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens as the offensive coordinator. That's a 1415 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 1: point zero six to three winning percentage one in fifteen. 1416 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: Cam Cameron so from Indiana University, and yes, he was 1417 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 1: with the Chargers for five years. Didn't work out for him, 1418 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 1: being a former college coach going and becoming an NFL 1419 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 1: head coach. I want to put Nick Saban in this category. 1420 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 1: He's won seven national titles, one at LSU in two 1421 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,599 Speaker 1: thousand and three and then six more at the University 1422 01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 1: of Alama, Obama. Now he's an accomplished football analyst on ESPN, 1423 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,280 Speaker 1: but he took over as the Miami Dolphins head coach 1424 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five and two thousand and six, 1425 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,680 Speaker 1: and he finished fifteen and seventeen with the Dolphins, so 1426 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't horrible. He was close to five hundred, but 1427 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: he also realized the NFL was not for him. He 1428 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:34,720 Speaker 1: moved on to Alabama and won six national championships. So 1429 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm telling Brian Day, don't do it. Don't think about 1430 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: going to the NFL, don't think about coaching the new 1431 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,800 Speaker 1: York Football Giants. And there's two more on my list here. 1432 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly great success at Oregon versus the offensive coordinator 1433 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 1: and then as the head coach from two thousand and 1434 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 1: nine through twenty twelve. He was named the head coach 1435 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 1: of the Philadelphia Eagles in twan thirteen. He lasted three 1436 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 1: years for the Eagles. His first two years he went 1437 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 1: ten and six, then his third year six and nine 1438 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: and got fired. Then he coached the San Francisco forty 1439 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:21,560 Speaker 1: nine ers in twenty sixteen, went two to fourteen and 1440 01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: then got fired before returning to the college ranks. And then, 1441 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:32,799 Speaker 1: of course there's Urban Meyer. Two national titles at Florida 1442 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six in two thousand and eight, 1443 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: another national title as head coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes. 1444 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen, he was named head coach of the 1445 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars in twenty twenty one. He lasted thirteen games. 1446 01:23:54,360 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: The team went two and eleven. Right there with lasting 1447 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,599 Speaker 1: just thirteen games along with Lou Holtz of the Jets 1448 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:11,759 Speaker 1: and Bobby Petrino with the Atlanta Falcons and Urban Meyers 1449 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 1: one fifty four winning percentage at Jacksonville was the worst 1450 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,280 Speaker 1: of any non interim head coach since Cam Cameron's two 1451 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,600 Speaker 1: thousand and seven Dolphins that went one and fifteen. So 1452 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:31,960 Speaker 1: my whole point here is, don't go to the pros. 1453 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. You're at the Ohio State University, and I 1454 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: hope you're there for a very long time. Let's go 1455 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: out to the phones. Is it Bryce on the line? Bryce? 1456 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it is welcome, Hi chick. 1457 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,560 Speaker 7: I mean, do you see their tough loss to Arizona 1458 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,679 Speaker 7: struggles on the offic that's Brendan Zortesy two interceptions today. 1459 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 7: Oh that was and he had two interceptions on the season. 1460 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really really tough to watch. Those were 1461 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 1: like punts. I mean, they were just bad interceptions. 1462 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, especially the offense cannot capitalize two missfield goals 1463 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 7: from Arizona's kicker, and they could just not convert on 1464 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 7: those opportunities. They're not playing complimentary football to death. 1465 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,960 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You know, I'm looking Bryce at the 1466 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 1: standings here in the Big Twelve Conference, and there are 1467 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 1: six teams within one game of each other. The Texas 1468 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Tech Red Raiders big win today, they're seven and one 1469 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 1: in the conference. BYU Placed tonight they're five and one, 1470 01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: and then the Houston Cougars, Arizona State sun Devils, you 1471 01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 1: see Bearcats in Utah Utes, all with two losses in 1472 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 1: the conference. So it's still, uh, it's still kind of 1473 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: wide open, but Texas texture looks like the cream of 1474 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,679 Speaker 1: the crop along with BYU. 1475 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's still possible, but UC's most definitely gonna have 1476 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 7: to win against BYU and TCU. They're gonna have to 1477 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 7: win out just to even have a chance at our 1478 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 7: to make it to at and T Stadium. You never 1479 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,520 Speaker 7: know what could happened in a crazy conference. 1480 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:24,800 Speaker 2: Like the Big Twelve. 1481 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 7: But we'll see what happens along the least. 1482 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,639 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and uh, it was just a day 1483 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 1: of missed opportunities for uh, for the UC Bearcats. Now 1484 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: I understand you're in Anderson township. Do you follow the 1485 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,799 Speaker 1: Anderson High School football team or U turping? 1486 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:42,479 Speaker 2: Oh? 1487 01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 7: I followed Anderson High School football team a lot, and 1488 01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 7: I'm going to Anderson. I go to a lot of 1489 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 7: their games, and a great one yesterday against LAUSU. 1490 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 1: And Anderson plays the Trotwood Madison Rams for the Division 1491 01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,879 Speaker 1: two Region eight championship this coming week. The Anderson Raptors 1492 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,640 Speaker 1: twelve and oh how about that. 1493 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, they've had it. 1494 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,560 Speaker 7: They've strung together a great season. It started against the 1495 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,479 Speaker 7: great team from Kentucky Cooper. They were down at half 1496 01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 7: time just to start the season and they never looked 1497 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 7: back from that. From that game, they went twelve to 1498 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 7: oh and I back to back final fours, and I 1499 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 7: think they it's their year this year. 1500 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 1: Anderson, Well, fantastic. Bryce. Hey, great hearing from you for 1501 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 1: the second week in a row. Awesome you're on your way. 1502 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's always great calling and you just have 1503 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 8: a great. 1504 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 7: Rest of your rookend. 1505 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 8: Chick. 1506 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Bryce, all right, appreciate it, Thanks so much, 1507 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:46,400 Speaker 1: take care, thank you. All right, half hour is gone quickly. Here, 1508 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 1: we got another half hour to go all the way 1509 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: to nine o'clock tonight, Sports Talk with your host Chick 1510 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Ludwig on seven hundred WLW. 1511 01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 15: Ease Taylor versus Tumblin and the steel Citys look to 1512 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 15: toss the Steelers into the recycling bin. There's a lot 1513 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,200 Speaker 15: I can say about Pittsburgh, but none of it can 1514 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 15: be set on the radio. The Bengals slug it out 1515 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:14,439 Speaker 15: with the Steelers tomorrow. Coverage begins at nine am. Stream 1516 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,720 Speaker 15: for free on the new and improved iHeartRadio app or 1517 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 15: on seven hundred WLW, home of the best Bengals coverage. 1518 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 4: More than a few of our patients have talked to 1519 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 4: me about their first time, but it's not the first time. 1520 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 4: You're probably. 1521 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back to seven hundred WLW. This is Chick Ludwig 1522 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 1: eight thirty nine on this Saturday night, and Jason Williams 1523 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: is in the house. I'll be listening to Jason on 1524 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,320 Speaker 1: my way back to the Miamisburg War Room. Jason's going 1525 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,559 Speaker 1: to be here at not from nine to midnight tonight. 1526 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot Com and the Inquirer. Hey, we're talking some 1527 01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,640 Speaker 1: mo busman's holiday. Nothing like going to Hinkelfield House in 1528 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and check out an afternoon Saturday basketball game, and 1529 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:09,440 Speaker 1: then to the field House later to watch the Indiana Pacers. 1530 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phones. Welcome in our good 1531 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,439 Speaker 1: friend Kevin in Columbus, Hi. Kevin. 1532 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, well right now, I'm also half keeping 1533 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 2: an eye on. 1534 01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 5: The Buckey's game, but they probably got it in the hand. 1535 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:26,599 Speaker 5: But don't guaranteed. I appreciate you talking some reds early 1536 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,639 Speaker 5: on in this show, because I still am looking forward 1537 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,960 Speaker 5: to the season and convinced Francona can get this team going. 1538 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 5: Maybe it takes more than one year. But as far 1539 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,799 Speaker 5: as the Bengals, I mean, even if they win tomorrow, 1540 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,080 Speaker 5: it's Burrow or no Burrow. They have the same problem 1541 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:49,240 Speaker 5: as last year. You know, great offense and awful defense. 1542 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 5: You're better the other way around, great defense and so 1543 01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 5: so offense because you at least have a little more 1544 01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 5: control of the game. This way, you're just hoping they 1545 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 5: win a shootout every week, and that's not always gonna happen. 1546 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, you're absolutely right about that, and we see it. 1547 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's football, and maybe that's the way the NFL 1548 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 5: wants it, you know, they they don't want remember the 1549 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,799 Speaker 5: old days where he had the boring, you know, six. 1550 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:15,679 Speaker 2: Tough in games. 1551 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's remember that, but hey, that that was 1552 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,880 Speaker 3: football into the football is basically blocking and tackling, and 1553 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,519 Speaker 3: we don't seem to have anyone can tackle the offense. 1554 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,120 Speaker 2: We really didn't worry about that. It was gonna be okay. 1555 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 2: The offense will be okay. 1556 01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:39,879 Speaker 1: But you remember the kickers, don't you Kevins. 1557 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,040 Speaker 2: He was the last one of those. 1558 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, the no sidewinders then, but it was uh, 1559 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 5: it's uh uh Bengals, they got to somehow get their 1560 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 5: defense better. You know, Burn will be back there when 1561 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 5: they want to play him this year. And I don't know, 1562 01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,280 Speaker 5: but then we consider and crossing our fingers, Toby don't 1563 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 5: get hurt again for real, you know, I don't know, 1564 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,400 Speaker 5: but it's they I don't know what's happened to the 1565 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,720 Speaker 5: defense and these guys they just run right by him. 1566 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,719 Speaker 5: They don't tackle many players. 1567 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 1: It's it's frustrating blown coverages and uh lack of tackle. Tackle, 1568 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:15,960 Speaker 1: that's right. 1569 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,360 Speaker 12: Why didn't they tackle that guy in the Bears cave? 1570 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 12: They would have just knocked him down. Then the Bears 1571 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 12: would have been panicking and scrambling to get up. I 1572 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 12: can't remember when they had a time out or not, 1573 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 12: but it was down to twenty seconds they would have been, 1574 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,840 Speaker 12: you know, and that's they could do something wrong. Maybe 1575 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,719 Speaker 12: we'd have pulled out a win there, but it wouldn't 1576 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,240 Speaker 12: change the whole scheme of things, you know. 1577 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 4: But uh, hey, it's. 1578 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Great here and you on the air. 1579 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,439 Speaker 1: I'll hang up and hear what you got, all right, Kevin, 1580 01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it? Oh yeah, all right, thank you. Uh yeah, 1581 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,800 Speaker 1: Dave arm Brewster Yddy gave us a big time confidence 1582 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,680 Speaker 1: that the Bengals will win tomorrow, So I'm uh, I'm 1583 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: fired up about that. And just a reminder that Jim 1584 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: Breach and I will be at the Wings and Rings 1585 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 1: in Greendale, Indiana tomorrow for Bengals postgame Sports Talk five 1586 01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,560 Speaker 1: thirty to eight thirty and will be strictly on Cincinnati's 1587 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,599 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty because the UC Bearcats are playing hoops 1588 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 1: tomorrow at six o'clock, So with all the coverage starting 1589 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 1: at five o'clock right here on the seven hundred WLW SO, 1590 01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: and you'll want directions to the Wings and Rings in Greendale, 1591 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 1: enter Indiana, Exit sixteen toward US fifty Greendale, Lawrence Burg 1592 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,679 Speaker 1: and the Aurora exit. Come on out and see Jim 1593 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,600 Speaker 1: Breach and the Chickster. We're gonna have a lot of 1594 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,840 Speaker 1: fun breaking the game down like a wrecking ball. Well, 1595 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 1: we're also talking Busman's Holiday and Sean McMahon, tonight's producer, 1596 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,639 Speaker 1: being an elder grad and a University of Cincinnati grad, 1597 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 1: is there a holiday that you would like to experience 1598 01:32:59,479 --> 01:32:59,880 Speaker 1: in sport? 1599 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 10: You know, I guess, I guess Now that I've been 1600 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 10: in media a while, I guess going to sporting events 1601 01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,479 Speaker 10: it counts as a bustman's holiday for me, doesn't it. Yeah, 1602 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 10: it would, I guess it does, because you know, for 1603 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,040 Speaker 10: a while I was doing I was doing stuff with 1604 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:16,920 Speaker 10: the UC football team. Not as a player, but I 1605 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 10: was a part of the coach's video team. Shout out 1606 01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 10: to my colleagues from those days. But it was it 1607 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 10: was strange, chick because for four years or two years, 1608 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 10: I did that. So I was traveling with the team, 1609 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 10: I was filming every practice, and you know, I was 1610 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 10: working all the time for those games. In the next 1611 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 10: two years, I was doing stuff for bear Cast Media, 1612 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 10: calling the games for student Radio down at UC, and 1613 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 10: going to a game as a fan. 1614 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,680 Speaker 1: It's so weird because I feel like I should be 1615 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:45,439 Speaker 1: like working. 1616 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it's such a strange feeling going as a 1617 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,719 Speaker 10: fan because it's not something I get to do often. 1618 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,559 Speaker 10: I just love going down to Nippert. I love going 1619 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 10: down to UC. I love being on campus. UC is 1620 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 10: really home to me. Uh And I actually got to 1621 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 10: go to homecoming this year, and I was very appreciative 1622 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 10: of that. I met up with a friend of mine 1623 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,720 Speaker 10: I hadn't seen in a while, and we spent the 1624 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 10: day together and we watched the Cats beat Baylor, and 1625 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,599 Speaker 10: actually I bumped into a colleague of ours, Chick. 1626 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,559 Speaker 1: I got to see Tommy Thrall at halftime. I bumped 1627 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,600 Speaker 1: into him. I have a picture with him on my 1628 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:19,639 Speaker 1: Instagram page. 1629 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,040 Speaker 10: And it was just funny seeing him there because one 1630 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 10: of my colleagues from the UC football video team said, Hey, 1631 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:26,400 Speaker 10: you know Tommy's here, right. 1632 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:27,280 Speaker 2: I was like, how do you know that? 1633 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 1: That is awesome? 1634 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 10: He said, I saw him over by the by the 1635 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,240 Speaker 10: the building, at near the cheering section or the student section. 1636 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:35,800 Speaker 10: I said, oh, no, kidding. So I shot him at 1637 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 10: text and I said I heard you're here, and he goes, 1638 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 10: how'd you know that? And I said, someone saw you 1639 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 10: and recognize you that I know, and so I figured 1640 01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,559 Speaker 10: I come find you. But yeah, for a busman's holiday, Chick. 1641 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,320 Speaker 10: I just love going to Nippert It just it feels 1642 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:51,760 Speaker 10: it feels right for me to be there. I just 1643 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 10: love UC's campus. I've always been passionate about UC since 1644 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,680 Speaker 10: I kind of picked up being a UC fan. I 1645 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 10: love my time there, and personally I love going to 1646 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,600 Speaker 10: college football games across the country when I got the 1647 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,640 Speaker 10: chance to do that. When I was a senior, I 1648 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,639 Speaker 10: got to travel to Notre Dame, got to travel to Indiana, 1649 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 10: watched the Bearcats play those guys and have a historic season. 1650 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,040 Speaker 10: I've been across the country at different football stadium so personally, 1651 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,560 Speaker 10: I'd love to go check out other team stadiums, you know, 1652 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,400 Speaker 10: some of the bigger programs Texas, Florida, Alabama. 1653 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: I've been to the Shoe. 1654 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 10: I've been to the Big House both times watching the Bearcats. 1655 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,000 Speaker 10: So for me, I think I'd just like to travel 1656 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,840 Speaker 10: to a bunch of the college football arena's great college 1657 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 10: football arenas across the country. 1658 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 1: That is fantastic. Yeah, and gosh it was. Now I'm 1659 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 1: trying to think of the year nineteen ninety six when 1660 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State they wound up playing in the ninety seven 1661 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. I got to go out and help cover 1662 01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State and my beat was Arizona State at the 1663 01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:02,320 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, so they stayed up near Pasadena. So it 1664 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,679 Speaker 1: was just phenomenal the prime days of Arizona State too. Yes, yes, 1665 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 1: it was just a tremendous experience a week out there 1666 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 1: and Ohio State was down in Orange County, and Arizona 1667 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 1: State was up by near Pasadena, and I was in 1668 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,759 Speaker 1: a residence in I mean really five to ten minutes 1669 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 1: away from Santa Anita Raceway and just a blast out 1670 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:29,760 Speaker 1: there for a week. 1671 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,320 Speaker 10: I'm jealous, man, the Rose Bulls. I've heard it's phenomenal. 1672 01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:34,599 Speaker 10: It's just stunning out there. 1673 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 1: Been there twice once as a student and Ohio State 1674 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 1: one in nineteen seventy four. Wow, it was my sophomore 1675 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 1: year January one of seventy four. We beat Southern cal 1676 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: forty two to twenty one. And yeah, one of my 1677 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,679 Speaker 1: claims of fame is walking at Saint John Arena Winter 1678 01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:00,280 Speaker 1: Quarter in nineteen seventy six with Archie Griffin. How about that? Yeah? 1679 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: And then as a sports writer covering Clark Kellogg's high 1680 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,560 Speaker 1: school career at Cleveland Saint Joe and then also a 1681 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Kirk Herb Street at Centerville High School. You've seen it all, 1682 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:15,680 Speaker 1: so just tremendous. And Chris Carter at Middletown there you go. 1683 01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,120 Speaker 1: So just got to see some great, great athletes. And 1684 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 1: Ron Harper at Kaiser High School before he went to 1685 01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 1: Miami University and then off to the NBA. So I 1686 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,280 Speaker 1: got to see some tremendous. You know, a lot of 1687 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,479 Speaker 1: you know because I substitute teach, and a lot of 1688 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:34,240 Speaker 1: kids recognized the voice, and they all ask me about 1689 01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 1: becoming a sports writer or a broadcaster. And the one 1690 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 1: thing I tell kids that want to be sports writers, 1691 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:46,200 Speaker 1: you can't be where oftentimes where you want to be. Yep, okay, 1692 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,559 Speaker 1: And there was the year. I'll never forget it. It's 1693 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,000 Speaker 1: the opening day of the NFL season. So my head 1694 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,599 Speaker 1: is either in Cleveland or in Cincinnati with the Browns 1695 01:37:56,680 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 1: and Bengals. Okay, and here I'm at the IndyCar Race 1696 01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 1: in Lexington, Ohio, at mid Ohio, the Indy Cars on 1697 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,840 Speaker 1: the road course, and I just told myself, Hey, you're 1698 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: getting paid to do this. Michael Andretti won that day, 1699 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,679 Speaker 1: and you're gonna do a hell of a job covering 1700 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:22,560 Speaker 1: this IndyCar race. It was a cold day, and but 1701 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 1: you don't always get to be where you want to be. 1702 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 1: And uh, but that's the way it is. And wow 1703 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:34,640 Speaker 1: do we have Wow? This is a surprise? Is this 1704 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:41,679 Speaker 1: Sue on the line? Sue, Yeah, welcome, I'm back. 1705 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:44,360 Speaker 14: I'll say I'll wait, No. 1706 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:45,760 Speaker 1: You're on, you are on? 1707 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 14: Oh, I'm on. Okay, My question is, but I have 1708 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 14: to talk about Jim Breech. Yeah, I see as old 1709 01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:59,479 Speaker 14: is the Hills because I know I've knew his daughter 1710 01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 14: many years ago. 1711 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, oh, it's the Hills, but you know 1712 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 1: he's pasted seventy that's for sure. The chickster is seventy one. 1713 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1714 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 14: I know he did good with the Bengals. And I 1715 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,800 Speaker 14: used to like to hear when you had him one 1716 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:16,880 Speaker 14: earlier too. 1717 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,880 Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful, yes, had him on and then we'll be 1718 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:20,759 Speaker 1: together tomorrow. 1719 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:26,240 Speaker 14: Well. I do like your odd games too, like the 1720 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,400 Speaker 14: other announcers do too, or the other co hosts. 1721 01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:36,320 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yes, dig it sound good and hang. 1722 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:40,040 Speaker 14: In there and do not weep too much if the 1723 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 14: Bengals lose. I want them to win too, Okay, yes, ma'am, 1724 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,600 Speaker 14: Yes we'll and I can hardly wait until February the 1725 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,240 Speaker 14: twenty six. Yes to the first spring game. Yeah, maybe 1726 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 14: that'll be my best Men's holiday if I can get 1727 01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,200 Speaker 14: out of Cincinnati. 1728 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,400 Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic too. I appreciate the call, thank you. 1729 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,719 Speaker 14: Okay, hang in there for your last few. 1730 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 6: Minutes, all right, thanks so much. 1731 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:09,920 Speaker 1: And in these last few minutes, how about on this 1732 01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:15,160 Speaker 1: date in Red's history one day ago, November fourteenth, Let's 1733 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,280 Speaker 1: go way back to eighteen eighty nine, the Reds are 1734 01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 1: admitted back into the National League. Cincinnati was dropped from 1735 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,200 Speaker 1: the league in eighteen eighty because of violations involving the 1736 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 1: playing of baseball on Sundays and the sale of beer 1737 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,880 Speaker 1: at the ballpark. Cincinnati had been a member of the 1738 01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:38,160 Speaker 1: American Association since eighteen eighty two, but admitted back in 1739 01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:44,479 Speaker 1: the National League in eighteen eighty nine. On November fourteenth, Wow, 1740 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,600 Speaker 1: how about that? And we see here where Google and 1741 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,240 Speaker 1: Disney have reached a deal to restore ESPN and ABC 1742 01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,880 Speaker 1: to YouTube TV. And I know a lot of folks 1743 01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth over that. 1744 01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:05,840 Speaker 1: So welcome back ESPN and ABC to YouTube TV. And 1745 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 1: sad to hear the news about Kenny Easley passing away, 1746 01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:16,120 Speaker 1: great UCLA player, Seattle Seahawks strong safety Hall of Famer 1747 01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,439 Speaker 1: dead at the age of sixty six. And I think 1748 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: by now a lot of loyal listeners know that one 1749 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:31,639 Speaker 1: of my hobbies is tracking deceased Bengals players. You had 1750 01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 1: to have played in a game and been on an 1751 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:40,759 Speaker 1: official roster for me, to research you. And in addition 1752 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:46,639 Speaker 1: to Bob Trumpy and Rudy Johnson passing away recently, there's 1753 01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:48,760 Speaker 1: two more names that I want to throw out there. 1754 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:56,919 Speaker 1: Warren McVeigh died at the age of seventy nine here recently. 1755 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,760 Speaker 1: He was the first black player in the history of 1756 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 1: the University of Houston Cougars. And what's crazy about Warren. 1757 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,040 Speaker 1: He was with the Bengals in nineteen sixty eight and 1758 01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:12,760 Speaker 1: part of nineteen sixty nine. He got traded to the 1759 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:17,799 Speaker 1: AFL Kansas City Chiefs during the nineteen sixty nine season 1760 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 1: for kicker Horst Muleman, and he made a significant impact 1761 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs as a kickoff returner and 1762 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: he rushed for five hundred yards that year, and the 1763 01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl and it was 1764 01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl four with a twenty three to seven victory 1765 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 1: over the Minnesota Vikings. So Warren McVeigh deceased at the 1766 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:51,360 Speaker 1: age of seventy nine. And you might remember this name too, 1767 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:58,400 Speaker 1: Pat Mattson. He was a messenger guard for the Bengals 1768 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:03,320 Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty eight through nineteen seventy four, and he 1769 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 1: made the club as a in the expansion draft. The 1770 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,599 Speaker 1: Bengals had forty players that they selected off other clubs. 1771 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 1: Each club had to put up like three players, and 1772 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:23,759 Speaker 1: Pat made the team as an offensive guard University of Oregon. 1773 01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:28,599 Speaker 1: He had played at Denver and with the Bengals from 1774 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy four. He recently died 1775 01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:36,599 Speaker 1: at the age of eighty one. And a couple more 1776 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:40,160 Speaker 1: players off the original nineteen sixty eight Bengals have passed 1777 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 1: a lineman by the name two linemen, John Matt Locke 1778 01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:49,599 Speaker 1: and Andy Rice, so that takes the number of deceased 1779 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:54,600 Speaker 1: Bengals players past the seventy mark. So hey want to 1780 01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,320 Speaker 1: thank all the loyal listeners checking us out tonight and 1781 01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 1: thanking our guest Devut d Armbrewster, Jim Breach, Greg Shoemaker 1782 01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,759 Speaker 1: of Tristatefootball dot com and until next time, which happens 1783 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,280 Speaker 1: to be tomorrow at Wings and Rings in Greendale, Indiana. 1784 01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 1: This is the Chickster chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening 1785 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,719 Speaker 1: to the home of the Reds and the best Bengals coverage. 1786 01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:26,080 Speaker 1: Seven hundred do wlw W well more Fiber