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Speaker 1: The NBA is a league where load management and skipping

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Speaker 1: There have been myriad things that have and will be

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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Timberwolves have lost four by an average of

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Speaker 6: like anything else, they've.

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Speaker 7: Sort of caught up a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But this is a real measurement for me, PA because

439
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Speaker 6: these were the games that prime Lamar and he still

440
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Speaker 6: might very well be in his prime. He's got to

441
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Speaker 6: ripped off of an MVP. Last year. Prime Labar and

442
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Speaker 6: prime Ravens offense could go into any building anytime, especially

443
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Speaker 6: NFC buildings where they had didn't have prep time or

444
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Speaker 6: didn't have the right personnel or even the right philosophy

445
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Speaker 6: to play it and be embarrassed, and that.

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Speaker 7: Hasn't happened as much lately.

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Speaker 6: And I mean, as a Raven fan, you want to

448
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Speaker 6: see that happen again, because when it happens against Cleveland

449
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Speaker 6: of the Jets, doesn't really count, especially the Jets at

450
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Speaker 6: this point, right so finding their way and looking like

451
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Speaker 6: a double digit win football team, which is what they're

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Speaker 6: going to need to be. And I said Pittsburgh and

453
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Speaker 6: Cincinnati are.

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Speaker 3: In their way.

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Speaker 6: I mean they're rounding into this. Well, start the season

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Speaker 6: all over again, you know, that's what you do when

457
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Speaker 6: you're one in five, you say, we're starting the season

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Speaker 6: all over again this week. But to your point, they

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Speaker 6: take on a sixth loss. With the schedule, they have

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Speaker 6: to think that they're going to run the table or

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Speaker 6: be able to count past eight or nine. That's going

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Speaker 6: to be really tough to do.

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Speaker 1: Next on the menu for the Minnesota Vikings, the Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Ravens sneak peak at next week.

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Speaker 1: With Nestor Apparatio Baltimore Positive dot com Baltimore Positive dot com.

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Speaker 1: I did a chat with Nestor yesterday that's available at

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Positive dot com if you'd like to watch and

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Speaker 1: as part of fifteen seventy w nst Hey Nest, How

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Speaker 1: long have you known Bob Hagen and how did you

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Speaker 1: guys meet?

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Speaker 6: Just a rock and roll dude, you know what I mean,

472
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Speaker 6: Bob's always at the super Bowl. I did twenty seven

473
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Speaker 6: super Bowls. I think that might be how I know you.

474
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Speaker 6: So I did my show on Radio Row for a

475
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Speaker 6: long long time. Actually my first Super Bowl ever was

476
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Speaker 6: in Minnesota ninety two, the famous Therman Thomas game. But

477
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Speaker 6: I think I met Bob fifteen years ago. But he

478
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Speaker 6: was a guy I saw for years before that because

479
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 6: when you check in to get your meaty credited, you

480
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 6: sort of meet all the PR directors from the league

481
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Speaker 6: because they're working their tails off allegedly during super Bowl week,

482
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Speaker 6: So you get to know people around the league. And

483
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Speaker 6: I've always traveled with the Ravens. And I did throw

484
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Speaker 6: Bob a note this week, and I'll throw it to you,

485
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Speaker 6: and I'll say this publicly for anyone listening. And if

486
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Speaker 6: you ever have anyone that rates press Box food, you

487
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Speaker 6: know what I mean, You get a Ross Tucker on

488
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Speaker 6: your show or that kind of guy whom I know well.

489
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Speaker 6: To me Vikings, press Box food, of all the things

490
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Speaker 6: of not coming on the road anymore with the team

491
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Speaker 6: and not really being allowed to cover the team on

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Speaker 6: the side. You can google that as well. I missed

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Speaker 6: the food, So to me, this is this is the

494
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Speaker 6: one trip where you're being in the media contingent for

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Speaker 6: the buffet.

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Speaker 7: Really would have been very desirable.

497
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Speaker 6: That in a trip to Paisley Park with you to

498
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Speaker 6: play some.

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Speaker 2: Hoops, Bob Hagen, don't leave home without him? Time for

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Speaker 2: two more?

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Speaker 1: What was I know you you're you're a concert officionado

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Speaker 1: as you just mentioned. What was Eagles at the Sphere

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas?

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Speaker 6: Like it was really good. I saw you too at

505
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Speaker 6: the Sphere a couple of years ago from the floor

506
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Speaker 6: and was real close to the band, but like the

507
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Speaker 6: sky part of the the you know what, you're there

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Speaker 6: for that sort of planetarium immersion.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I actually sat up in the upper deck right in

511
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Speaker 6: the middle for the Eagles, so it was a much

512
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Speaker 6: more immersive kind of cool thing.

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Speaker 7: You know.

514
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Speaker 6: I would say I kind of like the Eagles and

515
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Speaker 6: YouTube equally, you know, I mean I love them both.

516
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Speaker 6: They're different kinds of shows, you know. The Eagles thing

517
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Speaker 6: for me was very seated, right like I sat the

518
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Speaker 6: entire two and a half hours where the U two thing,

519
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 6: I danced and moved around while the screen moved around.

520
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Speaker 6: So two completely different things. But it's a wonderful venue.

521
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Speaker 6: I mean the people that have told me they saw

522
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Speaker 6: the Wizard of Oz there in various movies and stuff

523
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Speaker 6: like that interacted. But I highly recommend the sphere. Don't

524
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Speaker 6: pay full price. That's my well, that would be my

525
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Speaker 6: first advice for any time. Don't pay full price. Two things,

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys when you were getting there, twenty dollar

527
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Speaker 6: McCartney tickets two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Good for you.

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Speaker 1: Two things here with involving the word combine A nine

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Speaker 1: to noon yours Turlean Nordo misses you at the NFL

531
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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine. Second part, why don't you go to the

532
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Speaker 1: combine anymore?

533
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Speaker 6: Well, the combine was a great place to do business,

534
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Speaker 6: get to meet people. You know, it's a lot of drinking.

535
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Speaker 6: I mean it's in Indianapolis, which is you know I'm

536
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Speaker 6: from Baltimore, right, I mean I'm a football fantom of

537
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Speaker 6: that age or say you know, enough said so, I

538
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: didn't love going to Indianapolis, of all the cities with

539
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 6: little hobbits. I like yours better, you know, but your's

540
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 6: the way colder. But like you know, where they have

541
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Speaker 6: the little hobbit cages that go building the building, So

542
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 6: Indianapolis has that too, But you know, I did a

543
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Speaker 6: dozen of them, and it was a deteriorating proposition in

544
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Speaker 6: regard to agents athletes access my radio show. When they

545
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 6: put our radio boost in the backside of hell, around

546
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Speaker 6: the corner down underneath the Indianapolis wherever it was, where

547
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 6: nobody wanted to come and do the show. Then we

548
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Speaker 6: just said, why are we here other than drinking and eating,

549
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Speaker 6: which I mean, come on, it's Indianapolis. I mean you

550
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Speaker 6: can get a stake anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get that. Time for two more, Time

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Speaker 2: for two more. How little do.

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Speaker 1: People in the DMV, the DMV region region care about

554
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Speaker 1: the Washington Wizard?

555
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: How little do they care about the Whiz?

556
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm in Baltimore, man.

557
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Speaker 6: We would tell you the GMV really means like sort

558
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Speaker 6: of Washington suburbs kind of sort of, And they would

559
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Speaker 6: call baltimore Ians like the outsiders that we are. I

560
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Speaker 6: can tell you this from a Baltimore perspective. They were.

561
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Speaker 6: They were Baltimore's team, right. Obviously the Baltimore Bullets. So

562
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Speaker 6: I grew up with all that, Biggie and my dad

563
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Speaker 6: and West Unseld and you know, and West lived in

564
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Speaker 6: Baltimore until the day he died, uh, you know, on

565
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Speaker 6: on the southwest side of Baltimore, even though he was

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Speaker 6: the Washington Bullets coach and and the Washington Wizards GM

567
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Speaker 6: and all of that. But Dave Poland, but they've yeah,

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Speaker 6: they've kind of quit on Baltimore. I mean, if you

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Speaker 6: really want you know the truth, I mean, ped Lee

570
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Speaker 6: owns this. At one point saw Baltimore as the Fort

571
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Speaker 6: Worth of Washington, right or as the Saint Paul of Washington,

572
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Speaker 6: very very much. That's not true, you know what I mean.

573
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Speaker 6: Like he promised me that when the Capitals won the Cup,

574
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Speaker 6: he'd bring the cup to Baltimore. They never brought the

575
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Speaker 6: Cup to Baltimore. He brought the Wizards Baltimore for a

576
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Speaker 6: training camp like at Tason to practice a little bit

577
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Speaker 6: shoot around. And then they tried charging people, you know,

578
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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty dollars for tickets for a New

579
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Speaker 6: Orleans warrants you know, shoot around August preseason game or whatever,

580
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Speaker 6: and people didn't come. And then that was the end,

581
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 6: they played two hockey games in Baltimore. Barry Trots was

582
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Speaker 6: a part of the National Predators played and the Boston

583
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Speaker 6: Bruins played in Baltimore and the Baltimore at that time

584
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Speaker 6: Royal Farms Arena. But if you've ever been to Baltimore,

585
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Speaker 6: you call it the Civic Center. It's been refurbished and

586
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Speaker 6: it's beautiful for concerts now. I mean, it's a part

587
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Speaker 6: of my childhood where I went to the circus in

588
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Speaker 6: minor league hockey and all of that stuff. But yeah,

589
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Speaker 6: you know that he's quit on Baltimore. The TV ratings

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Speaker 6: reflect that from the Caps. I mean, the Caps have

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Speaker 6: some impact in Baltimore, but I mean, like I know

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Speaker 6: all forty of the fans, you know, they've been on

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Speaker 6: my bus trips down to games, you know. So it's

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Speaker 6: thirty eight miles that separates the city. But ideologically the

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Speaker 6: Wizards are like, I mean, I don't know that they're

596
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Speaker 6: a factor in DC, but certainly not in Baltimore. They

597
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 6: haven't done anything marketing wise, and I you know, I

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 6: mean anything like a billboards, just anything you'd see, anything

599
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 6: you'd even see out in the community in any way.

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Speaker 6: They haven't done anything like that in a decade so

601
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Speaker 6: and again he tried to move the.

602
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Speaker 7: Team to Virginia.

603
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Speaker 6: He's got bigger fish to price trying to figure out

604
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 6: the baseball team, and his lasty television network that I

605
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 6: don't watch anymore, and just all of that kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not anti DC. Maybe the way I was

607
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Speaker 6: as a kid, as a baltimorean where it would be

608
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Speaker 6: like a rivalry thing, and how we felt about the

609
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Speaker 6: former our name team with the politically incorrect the logo

610
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Speaker 6: for all the years of Jack Kn't Cook and all that.

611
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Speaker 6: We had real angst about that when we were kept

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Speaker 6: out of the leads, you know, after the Colts had

613
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Speaker 6: left town.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not anti Washington.

615
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Speaker 6: I just they don't do anything to inspire anybody in

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Speaker 6: their own market. They certainly don't do anything in Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: They really don't.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, you said something about the offensive and defensive line

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Speaker 1: of your beloved Ravens. Well, I mean, I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: this offensive line from left to right. I mean it's

622
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Speaker 1: they're long, they're strong, and they're looking to get it on.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking Ronnie Stanley, Andrew Voorhees, Tyler Linderbaum, former Gopher

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Speaker 1: Daniel file Leile and right tackle Roger Rosengarden. What's wrong

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Speaker 1: with those guys, Nester.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're mister Combine and mister draft guy. All those

627
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: guys sounded great on draft day, right, I mean Ronnie

628
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Speaker 6: Stanley was you know, look, we had Jonathan Ogden here.

629
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Speaker 6: We also had your guy, Brian McKinney here. With Adham,

630
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Speaker 6: we wouldn't won a Super Bowl, but Ronnie Stanley was

631
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Speaker 6: trending in that hall of very good the first three years,

632
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 6: which is why he got the big contract. I mean,

633
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 6: if you look up his injury history and what he's

634
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 6: been through, it's heroic. I mean, it's amazing that he

635
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Speaker 6: got back on the field. He played as well as

636
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 6: he did last year, and they gave him three year deal.

637
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: Other teams wanted him, but you got a twenty million

638
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: dollar left tackle who right now it's questionable as to

639
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 6: whether he's healthy, whether he can play. Their backup is

640
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: a guy named Joseph Noteboom, who you know when he plays,

641
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: it's it's a massive drop off. It's below the bar.

642
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: A left tackle Forhees has been a disappointment. The combination

643
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 6: of wherehe's and Finlele Finle a Leys is a big guard,

644
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 6: you know, built different. They drafted this guy, Ben Cleveland

645
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 6: years ago and had been waiting around. He had some

646
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 6: off the field this year's last off season. The guard

647
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 6: plays really affect Linderbaum and what they're really trying to

648
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 6: do in the pocket with Lamar and keeping him in

649
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Speaker 6: the pocket. He's gotten sacked more than I ever thought

650
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 6: he could possibly be sacked, right, Like when you see

651
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson getting sacked four or five, six times, like,

652
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 6: what's wrong with him? What's wrong with the line, What's

653
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 6: wrong with the scheme? How is that happening? But defenses

654
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 6: have trapped them, and part of that has been that

655
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Speaker 6: this line hasn't been good enough. Rose and Garden the

656
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Speaker 6: second rounds raft pick out of Washington five, but hasn't

657
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Speaker 6: been It's the low light of the team.

658
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 7: It's not well, the low.

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Speaker 6: Light of the teams related in the pass rush and

660
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Speaker 6: the defense in general, which was thirty second in the league,

661
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Speaker 6: you know, a month into the season, right, so that

662
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Speaker 6: and they're still trying to dig out from underneath of that,

663
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Speaker 6: but not being able to run the ball and go

664
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Speaker 6: up and down the field the way they have in

665
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Speaker 6: the past, and even when they do. The defense is

666
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 6: you know they're gonna wind up winning thirty eight to

667
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 6: thirty seven games to some degree because they're gonna score.

668
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 6: I mean, they're good enough offense to overcome that. But

669
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 6: get Lamar sacked being at that bad down in distances,

670
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 6: going on fourth down and not making it right. I mean,

671
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Speaker 6: hard ball's kind of famous for that, right anywhere from

672
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 6: the forty yard line. You know, those turnovers of the

673
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 6: ball and not necessarily turnovers. Lamar has been pretty you know,

674
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Speaker 6: not pretty. Lamar's been Hall of Fame responsible with the

675
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: football since he's been drafted. I mean, that's one thing

676
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 6: with him is he feels worse than anybody else when

677
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Speaker 6: he throws a pick or drops the ball or gets

678
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Speaker 6: stripped or whatever you can physic We see that it's hard.

679
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 6: He's hard on himself. But he doesn't make those mistakes often.

680
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Speaker 6: That's not my concern. My concern is just where are

681
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Speaker 6: you on first down? What are you trying to do

682
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Speaker 6: and can you be successful doing it? And that's going

683
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 6: to involve the offensive line. I haven't seen enough of

684
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Speaker 6: that consistently to feel good about it.

685
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Speaker 1: Nestor, You're fantastic, have a wonderful day. Best of luck

686
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Speaker 1: with Baltimore Positive dot Com. Unlet's stay in touch, right.

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Speaker 7: Ah, meaning adjourned. All questions are done. But I do

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Speaker 7: love your sound effects.

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Speaker 1: Brother, I'm Shelly appreciate you, and I'm sure you can

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Speaker 1: find some sound effects if you really worked hard enough.

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Speaker 7: All Right, It's just not part of my act anymore.

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Speaker 7: But I kinda miss it.

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Speaker 2: I really do see you, sive, what just happened? It's Nestor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the Nestor experience.

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Speaker 1: fifteen seventy wnst Nestor Altimore Positive dot Com is relatively new.

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Speaker 2: What's your role in it? I own it. I always

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Speaker 2: love that one about.

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Speaker 1: The radio station fifteen I mewnst.

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Speaker 2: I own that too. I always love that one, damn.

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Speaker 4: And I think that I think that might lead into

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Speaker 4: the whole He referenced it that he doesn't. He doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a credential to jump into the building and handle

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Speaker 4: some Ravens related topics.

705
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Speaker 2: He's an elite Ravens mind though.

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Speaker 4: Well since we've known him, man, I mean, you want

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Speaker 4: to talk about grinder, whether it was the radio station

708
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Speaker 4: it's the website. Oh yeah, dude's been doing his own

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Speaker 4: thing beat of owne, drama, etc. For thirty freaking years grinding.

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Speaker 4: I love Nestor, so do I thank you Nestor. Vike's

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Speaker 4: Minnesota's finest. We're not We're not gonna be too far away.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be up Elk Riverway Off ninety four tomorrow

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Speaker 4: for the Friday football Feast.

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Speaker 2: But Neutrie and dense BF appreciate you. Thousand Hills.

721
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Speaker 4: I got some audio for you, and we're gonna start

722
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: with the head coach, Kevin O'Connell yesterday addressing the media,

723
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: and this just kind of popped in my head, like,

724
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Speaker 4: are you kidding me?

725
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 7: Man?

726
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: How about a freaking home game?

727
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: Thanks goodness week for our team coming back home.

728
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 8: You know, we're talking a lot about now that we

729
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 8: know some of the things that it takes for this

730
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 8: year's team to win football games.

731
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Speaker 3: How we play all three phases? You know?

732
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Speaker 8: Now it's about consistency and you know, showing up at

733
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 8: us Bank Stadium and it's a really good team on

734
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Speaker 8: Sunday and performing the way we need to to win.

735
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: You know, part of you know, talking about a muddy NFC,

736
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: talking about this team divisions not out of reach. Keep

737
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: winning your division games? How about winning your home games?

738
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 4: Because it just pops in my head, Pa, it's November.

739
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: We've only played at us Bank Stadium three times and

740
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: the team's one and two, losing to the Falcons in primetime,

741
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: losing to the Eagles close, of course, the beat down

742
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: over the Bengals.

743
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Speaker 2: But how nice is it? Five of the final.

744
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: Nine, Pa, We're going to be in our own comfy

745
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: comfine starting this Sunday.

746
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's nice overall to go Sunday noon, Sunday noon,

747
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Sunday noon than Sam, Sunday noon, Sunday noon, Sunday.

748
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Noon, than Sam.

749
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Speaker 1: It's nice to settle into a routine for players and

750
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: coaches who crave routine. So I've heard that a lot

751
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: over the last weekend change it resonated, it must matter

752
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: something to the Covenant great to be home against a

753
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: Ravens team that I'm starting to deep dive that thing

754
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: now that you're ready for the game. Call and defense

755
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: over the last three game has been a little different

756
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: than the first five games. Not exactly sure why, but

757
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: we'll have that all squared away by Sunday. But it's

758
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: not It's not that defense that was given up thirty

759
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: one and a half points when the team.

760
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Speaker 2: Was one and five, though Mikes bikes.

761
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the quarterback we're going to face on Sunday, he's

763
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Speaker 4: a little different too.

764
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Speaker 2: He can get off schedule, right, Coach.

765
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Speaker 3: Just playing the initial snap is going to be hard enough.

766
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Speaker 8: The scheme that they run, and it's very well coached

767
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Speaker 8: and they're very physicals. Playing the snap itself is the

768
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Speaker 8: starting point. Then the next play starts. When things do

769
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Speaker 8: go off schedule, and we've played against some guys this

770
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Speaker 8: year who have hurt us, you know, whether it's internally

771
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 8: getting up and out of the pocket where you know,

772
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Speaker 8: you got to look at the tape and say, was

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Speaker 8: our rush plan as disciplined as it needs to be

774
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Speaker 8: versus a quarterback that can hurt you. And if you're

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Speaker 8: going to turn the rush loose, do you have to

776
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Speaker 8: have somebody accounting for that quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Which means uh, contain contain contained.

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Speaker 8: To me, it's about disruption and it's about getting him

779
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Speaker 8: off the spot, and then it's the player that gets

780
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 8: him off the spot is more than likely not going

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Speaker 8: to be able to always make the play.

782
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Speaker 3: So who's the next guy there? And was there?

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Speaker 8: Discipline and making sure you corral and keep him in

784
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Speaker 8: the area that you have to because he can change

785
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Speaker 8: a game.

786
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Speaker 4: You know the crazy thing about this game, and you're

787
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: gonna dig into it, whether it's defensively and as they've

788
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Speaker 4: gotten healthier, maybe this defense a little better than what

789
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Speaker 4: the Vikings or any fan would have noticed five six

790
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: weeks ago. But even from an offensive perspective, is there

791
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Speaker 4: an element of weathering the storm here?

792
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Speaker 2: Pa, because it just.

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Speaker 4: Feels like like it doesn't feel like the Vikings are

794
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: going to beat him forty to six. We're gonna be

795
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Speaker 4: watching this game on Sunday. Lamar is going to make

796
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: a badass play. One of those tight ends is gonna

797
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Speaker 4: find his way loose or into some sort of cushy

798
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Speaker 4: spot in the zone. King Henry Dereck Henry runs it

799
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Speaker 4: at a high level. He might find his way for

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Speaker 4: a twenty two yard rumble to match his jersey like

801
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Speaker 4: it kind of feels like this is a weathering the

802
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: storm game because you can't keep the MVP down all day.

803
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: You just got to keep them down long enough to

804
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 4: let our guys do their thing.

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Speaker 1: Like it because that there are there's nuance, or there

806
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: are things established early in the game that teams are

807
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: setting up for later in the game, and that requires

808
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: weathering the storm, or like accepting a jab to your

809
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: face knowing you avoided the roundhouse. Yeah, and that has

810
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Lamar, has a lot to

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Speaker 1: do with end game on bench film study where they're

812
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: getting play.

813
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: After play after play.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the Lions last week, Bersus brought this up

815
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: and he was absolutely right after watching the game back.

816
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: The Lions had a third and super long, might have

817
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: been third and seventeen, and they threw this weak, little

818
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: just soft pass left. I think to Montgomery knowing we're

819
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Speaker 1: probably not going to get the first down here with

820
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Speaker 1: the way this thing's crafted. Yeah, Well they were setting

821
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: something up for later, same formation Jamison Williams on the

822
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: other side. Ah, they were trying to get deep to

823
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: Jamison off the same look.

824
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: Ah, we saw that before.

825
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: We know what you're doing.

826
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jamison stumbled at the line of scrimmage and

827
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Speaker 1: it ended up being a fat l for the Lions offense.

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Speaker 4: The other part of that too, though, is on those

829
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 4: third and longs, it feels like the kiddies they're always

830
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: playing it like the opportunity for two, so they get

831
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Speaker 4: you that slant. There were a couple in that game,

832
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Speaker 4: whether it was Amen Ram, maybe it was Khalif, I

833
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: forget who got it was a third and super long

834
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: and then you're thinking just hold them and they're gonna punt.

835
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Speaker 4: But then they get like fourteen yards on the third

836
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: down and now you're sweating. Oh yeah, this seems good

837
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 4: enough to go for it. The setups in the mind

838
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: games with some of these teams, it's unreal.

839
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up. That's very well stated. And the Ravens

840
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: are not as adept or they don't have a propensity

841
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: to chance and them fourth down the way the MotorCity

842
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: Kitties do. But they set little things up early in

843
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: the game with Reid options and Lamar and the play

844
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: action and Lamar the designed four yard run where it's

845
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: going to look the same in the third or fourth quarter.

846
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna get somebody to bite on it. And there's

847
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: Andrew's uncovered middle of the field. It's you know, it's it's.

848
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: It's that that term that you invented a couple of

849
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: days ago at Twin Cities Orthopedics Performance Center that I like.

850
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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's uh. It's the cat and mouse game.

851
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: It's the whole cat and mouse game that makes up

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00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: the National Football League.

853
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: By fights, one more from the coach before we hear

854
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: from the QB. You know he's listening to Van Ginkle

855
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 4: style in the locker room.

856
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 8: You know, we had way more snaps with Andrew Van

857
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 8: Ginkle on the field where all eleven guys did their

858
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: jobs and knew exactly what the call was. So he

859
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 8: provides so many layers of things to our defense that

860
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 8: allows Flow to be who he wants to be as

861
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 8: a play caller. Kink helps everybody else around him, not

862
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 8: only himself, play at a high level.

863
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Speaker 3: So it's impactful for sure.

864
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: It's even the coach could feel that Van Ginkle returning

865
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: last week was a big deal, and you've mentioned it.

866
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Speaker 4: Grenard Van Ginkel and number five one Blake Cashman mattering

867
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: as they do to this defense. I heard a little

868
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: scuttle butt from the play, and I don't know if

869
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: there's specific audio or a quote, and maybe I just

870
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: need to dig deeper and find it. But they were

871
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: kind of talking the last couple of days about that

872
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: hit that you noticed Khalif Raymond.

873
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: It was a big, big, big side practice talker yesterday.

874
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the replay itself is still kind of cool.

875
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: The type of player Van Ginkle is. He just gets

876
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 4: completely laid out by Khalif, still gets up and makes

877
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: the tackle on Gibbs to end that play. So it

878
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: was a brilliant I mean, it ended well, but there

879
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: was some frustration.

880
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: I think even the idea.

881
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: The quote dirty, The word dirty was being thrown around

882
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: a bit.

883
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: The gink Is on Fire felt it was a dirty hit.

884
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: I believe it was THEO Jackson or Josh Women tell us.

885
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: There were a couple who were like, that's uncalled for,

886
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: that's a dirty hit. Okay, Well, I mean I don't

887
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: know if it was a dirty hit. Okay, here comes

888
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Khalif Raymond right side of the formation wide receiver goes

889
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: in motion. Think of the gink is on fire and

890
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: his patented left edge spot, which would be the front

891
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: side of the quarterback. Van Ginkle does not seem coming

892
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: and Khalif Raymond, as Van Ginkle was rushing, absolutely obliterated him.

893
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: He did, and he hit him in the side of

894
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: his upper body. Okay, now here's the conversation I had

895
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: with somebody on the side of practice yesterday, Dan Campbell

896
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope. Okay, relatively early in the game. I

897
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: think that was relatively early in the game. Hey, that

898
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: guy forty three, it's pretty important to your defense. We

899
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: know he's missed five ish games. We just want to

900
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: make sure he's all squared away physically. Yeah, okay, we'll

901
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: check that box.

902
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: To move on.

903
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: It's a pushing the envelope nature that most, if not

904
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: all of them do. The fact that Raymond caught Van

905
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Ginkle off guard does not make it dirty, as the

906
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: letter of the law goes with blindsiding somebody like that.

907
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: I can't go down that road because I don't know

908
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: the letter of the law. So if it was an

909
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: egregious hit, if it was an illegal hit. If it

910
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: indeed was a dirty hit, per the illegality of it,

911
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: not the perception.

912
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: Well that's one thing.

913
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: The other side of it is in a tightly contested

914
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: division where teams are scratching and surviving for any little

915
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: morsel they can get, Dan Camp will push the envelope

916
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: to make sure one of your previously hurt players, who's

917
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: incredibly important, is just want to make sure everything's all

918
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: squared away here. Because Van Ginkle's neck did snap and

919
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: when he hit the ground, he hit it face first

920
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: and really hard courtesy of low Khalif Raymond. So it

921
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: bears following the next time these two teams meet.

922
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: That's a good point. I don't know what the legal

923
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 4: aspect of it is. If it is truly a blindside

924
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: block should have been flagged. I mean, liber He's going

925
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: to be in studio next, he said. During the Power

926
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: Trap Morning show, he brought up the name hinz Ward,

927
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: which leads me down the road of remember all those

928
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: times upfield he would lay out a linebacker, he would

929
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 4: lay out a corner specifically in run defense, or even

930
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 4: to support maybe another wide receiver. Like the physical aspect

931
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: of the game. But if roles were reversed. I don't

932
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: know how mad we'd be. It's like, oh, Ayden Hutchinson,

933
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: he's missed five or six games, and maybe THELN, you know,

934
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 4: he's looking for more than four snaps a game. Maybe

935
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: THELN comes in right off the snap and just gives

936
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 4: them a little chip just to see if ninety seven's

937
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: all right.

938
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: That's the physical you know, actually bodies colliding part of

939
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: the equation of pushing the envelope.

940
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

941
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned this a couple of years ago whenever we

942
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: had the forty nine ers on Monday Night Football early

943
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: in the season.

944
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 2: It was that game.

945
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: Charvarius Ward took one from Addison, then Addison took one

946
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: back from Jarvarius Ward.

947
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: So we had no Jefferson, but their linebacker, their best

949
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: pass covering linebacker, or at least one of the two,

950
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: Dray Greenlaw hadn't played in a month. So seven of

951
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: the first eight eight of the first nine plays, we're

952
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: passing plays in the area of Dray Greenlaw. Why, we

953
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you can run. Yeah, I

954
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: mean we couldn't, by the way, and he couldn't, all right,

955
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: So we're going to come at you in this injury

956
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: this play after play after play after play after play,

957
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: because we want to you're off the injury report. Man,

958
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: you're in the game. We want to make sure you're

959
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: all squared away. That stuff happens all the time.

960
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: Vikes bits.

961
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 4: Let's get to Leber, but maybe during News to Nord,

962
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: I did have some audio from JJ McCarthy in my

963
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: back pocket that we can get to at some point.

964
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: They're in nine to noon and Ben Leber notcho. Leeber

965
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: joins nine to Noon around the corner into the middle

966
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: portion of the program at FN one hundred point three.

967
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Kfan