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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a little after seven here on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And then uh, we were on till six thirty tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do half an hour of Broncos Country tonight.

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Speaker 2: So we walked up to see you basketball. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 2: got James Palmer joining us here coming up at thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: You know, the one thing I regret, regret maybe one

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't bring up his hair like I I even

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Speaker 2: Ben say here? And I was like, well, Ben would

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Speaker 2: just talk about his hair for like ten minutes.

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Speaker 4: Make it uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: May also call him Jimmy Palm Trees.

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Speaker 4: This is what I call him.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, you would.

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Speaker 4: He's been dogging me for these uh mego dragon fruit refreshers.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I see you still got the fruity drink.

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Speaker 1: Well it's a bit of your signature.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you know, like you you kind of like

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Speaker 2: I just walked around wearing sweats.

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Speaker 1: And then and then today you are wearing the DV

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Speaker 4: When I reached into the suitcase, I landed on the

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Speaker 4: that point it was too late to switch. I already

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Speaker 2: Okay, so many times with you like there's a reason,

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Speaker 4: It was that or the red Millennium Falcon shirts. So

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Speaker 4: I like that one has an appearance in a while. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I got too fat for it. But you're wearing the

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Speaker 4: NATZA shirt last night. Wasn't yeah but not here like

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Speaker 4: you okay? Yeah, well yeah I got a few of those.

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Speaker 4: I got some schwag from them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some swag just you know, NASA, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, the reason we bring up the fashion stuff is

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Speaker 2: because we had Mike car on the programmer correctly, you know,

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Speaker 2: repudiated your assault on my fashion sense and called me

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Speaker 2: the fashion icon that I am and I quote, I

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Speaker 2: fashion icon Mike Garifolo.

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Speaker 4: By such a good dude, We'll bring a fashion icon

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Speaker 4: on his own, right, Like Mike, Mike Garifolo is a

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Speaker 1: He's a very good, very nice dresser.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe we'll bring that back in the six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: How I mean, it's your show, untry.

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Speaker 1: Programming, Broncos Country.

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Speaker 4: You have to pay you a fee? Is there a

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Speaker 2: I mean, I do live for it, freeze, So at

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Speaker 4: Definitely saving that sound bite playing it for Nick when whenever.

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Speaker 1: I get back there, You're a fashion icut.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be. The whole promo is basically the new

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Speaker 1: No, boy, I'm sure Dave Tepper back in the name Lett.

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Speaker 4: Thing right now. We're not gonna do Ben Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're getting rid of that commercial and we're we're putting

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Speaker 2: You think temper put that in because there's yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: To leave that. That was a strategic decision by one

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Speaker 4: Dave ten owner of the Carolina Panthers, also your boss.

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Speaker 4: Really okay, hope, yeah, I really hope he's listening, right.

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Speaker 3: That's on you, that idiot.

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Speaker 1: This man is that represent me? The views and opinions

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna hear from j Palmer. And no, I

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Speaker 2: We'll do that coming up here at five thirty. This

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Speaker 2: one sweats or Nacho Lee, braceweat stretchy pants.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you were sweats.

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Speaker 2: So uh see here, Ben, if you were threatened with

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Speaker 3: Nice?

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Speaker 1: I love the listeners. That's awesome. I love the listeners.

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Speaker 4: That is that is great.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, like twice, it's gonna be Kenneth Roker.

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Speaker 1: Don't believe we're we're gonna be on Kenith Walker.

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Speaker 4: I believe we're we're gonna be priced.

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Speaker 1: Out of Kenith Walker anyway. So but not the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: The Raiders have the most caps paced in the league,

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Speaker 2: For a moment, if you're Kenneth Walker, would you want

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Speaker 2: Things being equal, unless you you think that Clink Kubiak

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Speaker 1: You just want a super Bowl. I think you're trying

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Speaker 4: Are you you know? Yeah, he's an up and comer

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Speaker 2: Mister Albright? Your new title needs to be c F

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Speaker 2: for Chief Fashion Officer.

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Speaker 4: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: See how we're just pandering?

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no no, we have we have sharp, astute

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating you.

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Speaker 3: You are throwing those around.

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Speaker 4: But people are saying some people are saying. Our people

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Speaker 2: got his car Key's taken away from Bronco's maniac.

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Speaker 2: If you were threatened with two more holes being ripped

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Speaker 3: Erring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just educating. I was reading mentoring mentoring.

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Speaker 3: You sort of do with that. But with coaching.

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Speaker 4: But with coaching, no, I mean three or four years

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Speaker 3: How many guys?

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Speaker 4: I'm not looking at this as the quarterbacks coach anymore.

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Speaker 1: Well, it does feel like we're as we talk about

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Speaker 5: But yeah, okay, I'm just saying I feel like the

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Speaker 4: Well, he got his start in Miami. I mean, he

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Speaker 4: He was the interim head coach in Miami before he

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Speaker 2: James Palmer is going to join us, get his reaction

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Speaker 2: to the news. Davis Webb is gonna call plays and

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Speaker 2: also where does he see this thing going with the

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Speaker 2: Broncos is for what they were able to accomplish this

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Speaker 2: year and what are they building into the future. He's

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Speaker 2: gonna have some really interesting insight on that. Coming up

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Speaker 2: next is We're Alive.

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Speaker 1: From the twenty twenty six NFL combine on Kawai are

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Speaker 1: watching you and Zach go back and forth via text.

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Speaker 4: Zach doing the full I don't know if you've seen

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Speaker 4: that elon Musk Simpson's Nerds meme. You know, the people

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Speaker 4: defending It's like Flanders jumping in front of the bull

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Speaker 4: or whatever. Anything for defender Sean Payton here, and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, okay, I guess he can share some credit.

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Speaker 4: I guess for hiring Dan Campbell credit half a decade

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Speaker 4: after he'd gotten into coaching.

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Speaker 1: But you'd strong of this. I don't know I'm correct

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 2: So Zach texted us as soon as the winter braces

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Speaker 2: for what For what it's worth, Campbell spent five years

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Speaker 2: in New Orleans under Payton at three and a half

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Speaker 2: in Miami, and not true he spent five in Miami.

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Speaker 4: He's there a coaching entron in twenty ten, or Tony Sperano.

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Speaker 4: He was there in twenty eleven when Sperano and Blues

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Speaker 4: Todd Bowles was the interim, and then he was there

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Speaker 4: at twenty twelve on when Joe Philbin retained him and

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Speaker 4: Darren Rizzy and in that staff, which by the way,

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Speaker 4: was was a loaded coaching staff.

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Speaker 6: Why did the non Filbin years contributing to his time

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Speaker 6: on the Philbin tree, because if he was in Miami,

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Speaker 6: that makes no sense because he spent only three and

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Speaker 6: a half years under Fielden, He's spent five years under

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Speaker 6: show on.

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Speaker 4: A Sperano trees technically where he got his start.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's what we don't judge coaching trees that way.

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Speaker 4: It's where you got hired off of.

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Speaker 6: Typically, I think there's exception for that if you know,

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Speaker 6: you stop over somewhere for a year and then get

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Speaker 6: hired away elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: But like Mike.

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Speaker 6: Lafleur is getting talked about as like the Sean McVay

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Speaker 6: tree guy, not whoever gave him his first start in

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Speaker 6: the league, Like that star was Mike Shanahan, Mike McDaniels

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Speaker 6: off the Kyle Shanahan tree. He's not off the Dan

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Speaker 6: Quinn tree.

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Speaker 4: Like, it's just it's because all those guys are off

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Speaker 4: the Mike shan tree.

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Speaker 1: All those guys are at the Mike Shanahan tree.

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Speaker 4: You know, I Mike be dand against start with Mike Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: So is Dan Campbell off the Bill Parcells tree?

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Speaker 4: Why would he be on the Parcels tree? Never?

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Speaker 1: Because because Sean Payton was on the Potter of Parcels.

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Speaker 2: Tree, but that he was never worked for Bill Parcels.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like he's off the Tony Sperano tree.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, you just you just do not want to

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Speaker 1: be wrong about this, and you are. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, great great researching there, Zach.

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Speaker 4: And who's Sean McVay. Who's Who's what tree? Is Sean

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Speaker 4: McVay off of.

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan Shann tree? So at the John Gruden tree?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god?

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Speaker 6: And I think like few exceptions you could argue about

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Speaker 6: because he's talked about Gruden being a huge inspiration for him.

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Speaker 6: Here Campbell said Peyton's a huge inspiration for him. So

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Speaker 6: it doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just saying he was on the loaded by

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Speaker 4: the way, that Joe Philbins staff. Whatever you think of

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Speaker 4: this argument that Joe philbin Staff, by the way, was loaded.

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Speaker 1: Your pettiness knows no bounds.

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Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't.

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Speaker 6: But uh, John Payton got his start on the San

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Speaker 6: Diego State staff in nineteen eighty eight. Is the coach

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Speaker 6: instead of Jill Parcels. You put him on the first

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Speaker 6: pro staff, the Suddy Ryan Tree instead of the Bill

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Speaker 6: Parcells Tree.

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Speaker 4: Put him on the pro staff and he was on

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton got to start. John Gruden is the person

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Speaker 4: who actually hired Sean Payton.

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Speaker 6: He hired him for the Philadelphia Eagles, so he's on

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Speaker 6: the Gruden tree and not the Parcels trade.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the head coach would technically get the credit there,

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Speaker 4: but John Gruden is the guy who hired Sean Payton.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we'll have to let Sean know later on to

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Speaker 2: stop crediting Bill Parsons.

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Speaker 4: You give me to text John right now and ask

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Speaker 4: Gruden who Sean McVay was. No, I don't need you

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Speaker 4: to flex to use that part of the argument.

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Speaker 2: Oud hear from James Palmer, who is the best hair

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Speaker 2: of the business.

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Speaker 4: He's better than me.

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Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch up with him earlier.

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Speaker 2: We were already putting out videos on our social media channels.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Anthony Orrigez for doing that.

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Speaker 2: At Kiawai, Colorado, asked him about the Davis web news

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Speaker 2: and that he's going to be calling playsable.

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Speaker 1: Was the reaction to it, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was the number one topic.

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Speaker 7: I think it was one of the biggest stories, honestly

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Speaker 7: of yesterday, with so many different head coaches and general

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Speaker 7: managers going and I talked to a number of them,

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Speaker 7: had him on my set, and I had George on

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Speaker 7: my set later, and I think I'll start with that.

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Speaker 7: When Georgia and I were talking about it, I thought

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Speaker 7: he brought up a.

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Speaker 3: Really interesting point about it, where George Payton goes, what

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Speaker 3: does this tell us?

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Speaker 7: This is one of the best play callers we've seen

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Speaker 7: in recent memory in the NFL, and he's looking to

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Speaker 7: make this move to put a the team first in

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Speaker 7: terms of winning. Where they're at right now with the

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Speaker 7: rosterday a super Bowl caliber team, and b he goes

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Speaker 7: shows you what he thinks of Davis and to me

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Speaker 7: that those two are are paramount because we know the

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Speaker 7: makeup of Sean right, we know how Sewan is wired.

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Speaker 7: And I think the biggest part of knowing how Sean

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Speaker 7: is wired is Chase Daniel and I do a show

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Speaker 7: in the Athletic Chase was insistent on that show if

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Speaker 7: he was no way Sean Payton is giving up Playcollic.

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Speaker 3: This is a guy that has been in the room

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Speaker 3: with Sean for.

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Speaker 7: Years, knows him maybe as good as any player, and

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Speaker 7: they have an unbelievable relationship.

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Speaker 3: And he just kept saying, I can't see him giving

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Speaker 3: up play Colling and I was like, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: this guy is special.

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Speaker 7: And then so then the third part I would bring

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Speaker 7: up is this when he called the plays for that

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Speaker 7: I don't know, which was in the.

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Speaker 3: Third PAS, third preseason game.

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Speaker 7: I spent some time with Study at his locker after

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Speaker 7: that game, and Jarrett was just like, dude, he was incredible,

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Speaker 7: And I.

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Speaker 3: Was like, what do you mean?

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Speaker 7: He goes It was like he's been calling games his

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Speaker 7: whole life, and it was like when he started the

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Speaker 7: play call, I was like, that's that's the right play call.

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Speaker 7: Like there was just a flow and a feel and

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Speaker 7: a connectivity to the quarterback that was unbelievable for just

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Speaker 7: one I saw him last night actually and got to

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Speaker 7: chat with him a little bits.

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Speaker 3: It's obviously super uh, super jacked about it. I would say.

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Speaker 3: The other part is I'm interested to see what his

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Speaker 3: voice is.

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Speaker 7: Now doing things like this, because he has a larger say.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, the part that is fascinating.

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Speaker 7: When I kind of dub on that time, was like,

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Speaker 7: oh no, his voice has been massive since he got right,

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Speaker 7: So that I think puts it full circle back to

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Speaker 7: why this happened, because they've been really on this for

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Speaker 7: three years now and.

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Speaker 3: Now it's just time.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this is in some kind of response

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Speaker 2: to the interest that Davis has received from around the league.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 7: That's a really good question, because the interest is not

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Speaker 7: to be an offensive court The interest is to be

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Speaker 7: a head coach, exactly right.

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Speaker 3: And so when I talked to people in.

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Speaker 7: Buffalo after they were making their final decision, they were

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Speaker 7: blown away by Bigness.

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Speaker 3: They thought he was outstanding.

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Speaker 7: I was told by multiple people that interviewed him that

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Speaker 7: he is ready to be a head.

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Speaker 3: Coach right now. But then they also told me, which

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Speaker 3: was I.

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Speaker 7: Thought important, that they believe another year with Jean Payton

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Speaker 7: is not the worst thing in the world be either

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Speaker 7: for his coaching journey, and they mentioned that specifically, like

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Speaker 7: being in Denver for another year is big for his

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Speaker 7: coaching journey, not being in oc because he probably could

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Speaker 7: have gotten that opportunity in.

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Speaker 3: Some other places. So I do think there's there's a

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Speaker 3: fixture of why he was here.

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Speaker 7: And why he wanted to come back. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if they needed to give him play.

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Speaker 3: Can, but it almost feels that way in a sense. Right.

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Speaker 7: What I'm really looking at is is this going to

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Speaker 7: be a one year thing? Does it go back to

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Speaker 7: Sean after this year if Davis gets a head coaching job,

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Speaker 7: because everybody's going to say that he's right near the

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Speaker 7: top of.

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Speaker 3: This list coming out and maybe in next next cycle.

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Speaker 7: I just think we're really going to look at this

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Speaker 7: really hard this entire year.

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Speaker 3: But I think they got their guy. I mean every

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Speaker 3: interview he had Raiders he crushed.

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Speaker 7: I think if Clinton didn't get the job, I think

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Speaker 7: there's a realistic chance that he could have gotten that

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Speaker 7: Raiders job, and just yeah, it just fit we all have.

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Speaker 7: I saw it coming in a sense, but I don't

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Speaker 7: know if that was directly the reason. I think Davis

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Speaker 7: also knows how he can grow here like grow it's

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Speaker 7: specifically in Denver.

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Speaker 3: Not just to play college summer.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: I think another year with bow Nick's opportunity will kind

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Speaker 2: of bolster his resume. Ultimately, come to this thing, all right,

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Speaker 2: the last one a half fury because I know you're

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Speaker 2: a very busy man. So when you get to like

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Speaker 2: he gets a sense of the Broncos having a lot

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Speaker 2: of success last year, is this something that is built

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Speaker 2: to continue even into this upcoming year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little tougher.

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Speaker 2: But when you get the sense of talking to people,

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Speaker 2: do they think that the Broncos are doing as legit

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Speaker 2: or is there a sense of like I got to

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Speaker 2: see it another year.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an odd guest get another year and

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Speaker 3: no slight to what they did.

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Speaker 7: Because I think you remember what Sean said on the podium, right,

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Speaker 7: He's like he almost said like it would behave me

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Speaker 7: not to understand how a lot of these games went

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Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: He made a point to say that that some of

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Speaker 7: those games could swing back the other way very easily.

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Speaker 7: There are people I've talked to around the league that

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Speaker 7: are picking the Broncos as a team to not to

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Speaker 7: take a step back. I think they're picking the Patriots

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Speaker 7: as to be a team to take a step back,

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Speaker 7: the way they both won a lot of games, the

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Speaker 7: way the AFC fell in their favor. Now, there's nothing

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Speaker 7: against any of those things here. You got to win

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Speaker 7: those games. And I think the Broncos, if Bonix doesn't

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Speaker 7: get hurt, we're going.

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Speaker 3: To be in the super Bowl. And then who knows

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Speaker 3: what happens. But every year is different, every year changes.

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Speaker 3: I do think you have a very forward thinking general

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Speaker 3: manager that prepares for what's next very very well.

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Speaker 7: You have and this is talking to people all this

672
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Speaker 7: week as well, like you you have unbelievable ed rushers

673
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Speaker 7: were like I was talking to a GM from another

674
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Speaker 7: team and was like, here's contracts are awesome team wise, right,

675
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Speaker 7: like just outstanding team contracts.

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Speaker 3: They're like.

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Speaker 7: At the same GM was like, in pastor, Dan's contract

678
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Speaker 7: is like reasonable right now, I mean you're gonna have

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Speaker 7: to give Bow a contract. You're probably gonna have to

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Speaker 7: redo a deal with pat in the near future as well.

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Speaker 3: So those are on the horizon which you've built it

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Speaker 3: really really well.

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Speaker 7: And George has this mindset and we were talked about

684
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Speaker 7: it yesterday of just making sure things are so staggered

685
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Speaker 7: across the board at positions that he's never dealing with

686
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Speaker 7: contracts at the same position multiple multiple times. But he's

687
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Speaker 7: making sure that he reloads, like, don't be surprised if

688
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Speaker 7: they look a line like they were healthy. They're getting older,

689
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Speaker 7: like reload there. He just has a very good feel

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Speaker 7: for filling it out. You still have the quarterback, you

691
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 7: still have the coach, and you still have a defensive coordinator.

692
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Speaker 7: For some reason, cannot get them to some reason, cannot

693
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Speaker 7: get a job as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't know why, but I

695
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Speaker 3: hate to.

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Speaker 7: Say this, like what if Vance Joseph becomes like the

697
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Speaker 7: Steve Spagnolo hack that Andy Reid has where I'm just

698
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 7: not gonna worry about one side of the ball. We

699
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Speaker 7: have a a head coach, one of the best coaches

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Speaker 7: of a ball, running one side of our ball, and

701
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Speaker 7: for some reason can't get a job.

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Speaker 3: It sucks for VJ. I love VJ. It's great for

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Speaker 3: Broncos countries.

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Speaker 7: I right. He almost have to say it that way,

705
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Speaker 7: just like selfishly, as a fan of the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: You would say, well, this is.

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Speaker 7: Awesome you can't get a job. It stinks for him

708
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 7: because he deserves another crack. But these things are in

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Speaker 7: place for you know, a continued run of success for sure.

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Speaker 7: I just think, you know, having the same things fall

711
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 7: that it did this past year might be hard, but

712
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Speaker 7: who knows, it's the year three of b Nicks in

713
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Speaker 7: the system, so maybe you get even better quarterback play anyways,

714
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean that level, you know? So,

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Speaker 7: I just think it is going to be a team

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Speaker 7: that is in a very competitive AFC.

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Speaker 3: Where there were some teams and steps back that you

718
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Speaker 3: usually don't see.

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Speaker 7: How do you compete with Cincinnati and Baltimore and Buffalo and.

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Speaker 3: You know how.

721
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Speaker 7: We have the Chargers lost boat tackles like you know,

722
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Speaker 7: I mean, everything is there now.

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Speaker 1: I'm always catch those breaks, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, you're absolutely killing on the athletic.

725
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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, brother, Appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, really good stuff from James Palmer. We'll get

727
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Speaker 2: to interview up at KWA Colorado dot com. Then I

728
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Speaker 2: walking up to see you basketball. He's coming up here

729
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Speaker 2: in just a little bit.

730
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Speaker 1: Everybody keeps talking about it.

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Speaker 4: My boy Jean Clemens back there sitting there coach Clemens

732
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Speaker 4: talking about the pants.

733
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Speaker 1: Hanging about your pants. Everybody's talking about your pants. What

734
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Speaker 1: are you gonna wear tomorrow?

735
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Speaker 4: It'll be a surprised like maybe no pain even to

736
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Speaker 4: me because I have no clue.

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Speaker 3: Maybe no pants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Zeberspiedo consider it.

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Speaker 3: Why did you bring that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

741
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Speaker 2: Exactly five six six nine zero are Kawai commas per

742
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Speaker 2: health text line?

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Speaker 1: We got the Nuggets tonight and we're gonna be picking

744
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Speaker 1: up for showing me the money, boy nuggets.

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Speaker 2: These are in a little bit of a bad way.

746
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Speaker 2: That lost to Golden State the other day when they

747
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: weren't playing anybody. Yeah, they looked I don't know, man,

748
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Speaker 2: they just looked like they weren't really connected. They didn't

749
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Speaker 2: look like they were ready for that game, and Golden

750
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Speaker 2: State was playing with a lot of just uh, we

751
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: have nothing to lose mentality.

752
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the last start of the season is

753
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Speaker 4: really going to be a referendum on new head coach

754
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Speaker 4: David Adam David Adaman and I almost called Hi Rick.

755
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: I was like, God, this is a dad's name.

756
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Speaker 3: What's the son.

757
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, everyone was happy about that after the

758
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Speaker 4: little run at the end of last year, the men

759
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Speaker 4: of this year. I'm like, well, you know, let's let's

760
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Speaker 4: give it a year. Wait till he gets into the doldrooms.

761
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Speaker 4: So if I've got to get these guys motivated, you

762
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Speaker 4: know kind of thing. Not they're freshly motivated because the

763
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Speaker 4: coach just got fired. And see where we're at and

764
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Speaker 4: this just last start of the season. It's gonna be

765
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Speaker 4: a referendum on David Adelman. I think he needs to

766
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Speaker 4: I think he needs to do some things. I mean,

767
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Speaker 4: they need to get completely healthy, but he needs to

768
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Speaker 4: do some things here. I think that to turn this

769
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Speaker 4: thing around. Because they've lost some games I should have

770
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Speaker 4: lost this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to wonder about the mindset of of what

772
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Speaker 2: completely healthy looks like.

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Speaker 3: I think we need.

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Speaker 1: That's a sliding scale.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's some guys that aren't even back.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But I don't even if we're gonna get them back,

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Speaker 2: And even when you do get them back, what is

779
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Speaker 2: their relative health? Like is Aaron Gordon ever going to

780
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Speaker 2: be completely healthy? I don't know, Well I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, at the rate you're looking at this thing,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's back anyway. I think this is

783
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Speaker 4: this last year as a never nugget in my opinion, right,

784
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Speaker 4: I think Peyton Watson has made it to the point

785
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Speaker 4: where Peyton Watson is the future, and I think you

786
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Speaker 4: got to roll with that, maybe a Trader and Gordon

787
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Speaker 4: and you turn around and come back and and look

788
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: at you know, and look at where you're at. But yeah,

789
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Speaker 4: for this season, I mean, you have high hosts this year,

790
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 4: and I think you need to get these guys as

791
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: healthy as you can. You know, at this point you

792
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: need to keep your eye on the seating stuff and

793
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: it's not going to make too much of a difference.

794
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 4: You may want to rest guys a little longer, but

795
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Speaker 4: you know, David Adaman's got to put this thing together

796
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Speaker 4: here at the end because I think it's a referendum

797
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Speaker 4: on him.

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Speaker 2: All right, one more question on that, Cam Johnson or

799
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Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon for next year to keep Peyton Watson.

800
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Speaker 4: I've got both. I've moved both.

801
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Speaker 3: I've moved them both.

802
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Speaker 4: You got you, You've got a little something with what's

803
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Speaker 4: his edge Jones Yellow stop with him?

804
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Speaker 1: Uh?

805
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Speaker 4: You see what you got Peyton Watson. I think Strawther

806
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: has has got an expanded gas, expanded role. I think

807
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: some of those guys at Calvin Booth drafted, I think

808
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: you can start to get them a bigger role, and

809
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: you can move on from some of these these a

810
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: few of these more expensive pieces that you have in

811
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Speaker 4: order to do that. All right, let's get to show

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Speaker 4: me the my