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Speaker 1: the offspring.

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Speaker 2: The Penguins split the two games at home over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: beat Winnipeg in a shootout on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: That's the Festivus Miracle.

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Speaker 2: Got massacred by Carolina yesterday five to one. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be tough to make the playoffs. I still place the

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Speaker 2: Penguins chances that know, better than fifty to fifty, even

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Speaker 2: though they're second in the Metro Division right now. Columbus

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Speaker 2: is tough and edgy and got Lorensky.

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Speaker 1: The New York.

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Speaker 2: Islanders got Soroka and goal and the rookie Schaeffer on defense.

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Speaker 2: Columbus and the Islanders are in the ascension, the Penguins

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Speaker 2: are not. The Penguins need more from Sid and Gino.

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Speaker 2: They need them to take over games, not just get

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Speaker 2: a point here, point there. Maintaining the stats ain't enough.

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Speaker 2: Those guys got to take over games more often, like

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Speaker 2: Carlson did to beat Winnipeg on Saturday. And the Penguins

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Speaker 2: need better goaltending. Maybe the Penguins need to call up Morishaw.

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Speaker 2: You can flip Stuart Skinner over. He's done on this side.

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Speaker 2: The Pirates sent Connor Griffon to the miners. Jared Triolo

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Speaker 2: went his gold glove and his wiffleball bat will be

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Speaker 2: the opening day shortstop. I don't agree with it, but

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Speaker 2: I get it. Boy do the Pirates have a weak bench,

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Speaker 2: zero depth and they cut that password Guy Garcia that

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Speaker 2: I don't get. He's a right handed power bat and

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Speaker 2: he had a good spring. March madness is ongoing. I

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Speaker 2: do not care. April madness is upcoming, namely the NFL

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Speaker 2: Draft here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Care but I will say this. You know who the Stealers.

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Speaker 2: Should take at pick number twenty one is whoever will

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Speaker 2: help them the most right now, even if it's not

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Speaker 2: a sexy pick, even if you've got to take a guard.

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Speaker 1: He play Siamalu.

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Speaker 2: You got a forty two year old quarterback coming back

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Speaker 2: at least we think so. So you're playing for right now.

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Speaker 2: You got Rogers at QB, you're playing for right now.

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Speaker 2: So draft for right now. It only makes sense. Logan

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Speaker 2: Paul the Influencer, the WWE guy. He continues to make

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Speaker 2: an ass of himself at that flag football game, although

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Speaker 2: there was no big WrestleMania angle with Tom Brady, just

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Speaker 2: Logan Paul acted like a dink. It's an embarrassment to

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Speaker 2: our country that we let idiot dweeds get our attention,

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Speaker 2: like the Paul Brothers hat. Tommy Radio is off him

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Speaker 2: and Missus Radio welcomed their daughter yesterday. Everybody's doing okay,

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Speaker 2: so congratulations to them, but it does make the show tougher.

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Speaker 1: Got to think about me. Her name is Sidney Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Radio, named after Sidney Crosby and Shannon Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing, so.

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Speaker 2: Note tom today you can call now four one two

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Speaker 2: three three three WXDX. That's four one two three three

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Speaker 2: three wxdx. We got Tommy Novak of the Penguins at

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Speaker 2: two thirty. More of the best hockey talk only here

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Speaker 2: on the Home of the Penguins one oh five ninety

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Speaker 2: x before we get stuck into that Penguins weekend. A

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Speaker 2: bit more congratulations to Ada McNaughton, Pittsburgh's own. She was

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Speaker 2: on the show recently, one of the goalies on the

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Speaker 2: gold medal winning US women's hockey team at Milan, and yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Ava made thirty four saves as Wisconsin beat Ohio State

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Speaker 2: three to two to win the NCAA Division One women's

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Speaker 2: hockey championship, some big saves at the end. Check out

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Speaker 2: the video. She stood on her frigate head, did our Ava.

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Speaker 2: And that's two NCAA's in a row for Ava and Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to Ava McNaughton and also the former Penguin

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Speaker 2: Mie klein Ice friend of Pittsburgh, friend of the show,

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Speaker 2: Mark Johnson, magic Badger's Kid, the Badger's coach with the

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Speaker 2: women nine national titles as Wisconsin's goat. So congrats to

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Speaker 2: Ava and Mark. We're going to catch up with Mark

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Speaker 2: after splitting on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Kind of lucky to be Winnipeg.

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Speaker 2: In that shootout on Saturday, Carlson was brilliant, score two goals,

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Speaker 2: stole the game. You know, goalies can often steal games,

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Speaker 2: except Penguins goalies don't haven't for quite some time. Once

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Speaker 2: in a while, to start forward like siding Gino can

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Speaker 2: steal a game and the Penguins need more of that.

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Speaker 2: But Eric Carlson been stealing some games recently. That's tough

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Speaker 2: the Penguins yesterday five to one. The Penguins couldn't get

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Speaker 2: a simple system. I don't think it wins. Enough goes far.

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Speaker 2: Like the stars are quiet. Crosby is four points in

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend. The goaltending isn't good enough.

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Speaker 2: It's better than Jari, but it's not ever stealing games,

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Speaker 2: and occasionally it loses a game. Skinner has won two

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Speaker 2: and five in his last eight starts, some very good saves,

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Speaker 2: You got to make that save. Although to be fair,

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Speaker 2: there's no way Skinner could have stolen that game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Ken Dryden and his prime could not have so anyway

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Speaker 2: with Skinner some very good saves but some bad goals.

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Speaker 2: His save percentage in that eight game streak is eighty

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Speaker 2: Shill Loss has done better over the same span six

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Speaker 2: absolutely will not. So I would go with playing shilloffs Morre.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not make him the number one goalie, but maybe

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Speaker 2: give him two thirds of the starts again. Carlson has

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Speaker 2: been fabulous, but mostly things are man With the Penguins.

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Speaker 2: People talk about how good they did with sit out

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Speaker 2: there was some overlap. They're in short, it's tough to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. And that all happen with as I mentioned

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Speaker 2: and the goaltender's got to do more. The stars and

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Speaker 2: the goaltenders got to win games. The stars besides Carlson,

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Speaker 2: I can't ask him to do anymore. I didn't like

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Speaker 2: the game yesterday on a lot of levels. Muse started

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Speaker 2: the fourth line in the bottom pair on defense, Graves

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Speaker 2: took a penalty right away, Boom won, Neil Carolina. Carolina

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Speaker 2: scored three play goals. The PK was rotten, the crowd

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Speaker 2: And again it's probably unfair to expect sind Jina to

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Speaker 2: go out there and take over games at their ages

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Speaker 2: unfair to expect the goalies to play better than their talents. Merit,

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Speaker 2: but this ain't about fair and what I said is reality,

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Speaker 2: and I would call it morishoff play all your cards.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the refing was awful all weekend and

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Speaker 2: we will never ever know what goaltender interference is because

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Speaker 2: they sure as frigg don't. New York Islanders beat Columbus

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Speaker 2: last night when nil sir Rokan was great in goal. Schaefer,

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Speaker 1: That's what they got going from them too.

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Speaker 2: Uh Gino has gone sixteenth straight games against Carolina without

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Speaker 1: You know why he's out there against staal a lot Stall, that.

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Speaker 2: I am fearing the worst case scenario Penguins don't make

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Speaker 2: just don't want this season to all be for naught.

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Speaker 2: And if the Penguins don't make the playoffs, for a

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Speaker 2: fourth straight year. You'll hear from Sid's agent right quick,

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Speaker 2: Pat Persson. I don't know what he'll say, but you'll

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Speaker 2: hear from him again, like I said. Tommy Novak at

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Speaker 2: the Penguins joins me at two thirty. That line of

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Speaker 2: him Chinnakoff and Malkin has been playing very well. That's

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Speaker 2: Novak at two thirty on one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Novaka the Penguins joining me at the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the hour two thirty, gonna talk about that great line

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Speaker 2: The Pirates sent Connor Griffin to triple A, the nineteen

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Speaker 2: year old phenom shortstop, and Griffin didn't have a great

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Speaker 2: sparing hit like one seventy, but he did hit four

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Speaker 2: home runs. That's most on the team, and the fanboys

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Speaker 2: even hit a home run in batting practice at tweet

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Speaker 2: Griffin going to Triple A is probably what's best for

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Speaker 2: Double A. But gambling with Griffin at short stuff for

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Speaker 2: the Pirates would be what's best for them trying to

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Speaker 2: win now because Jared Triolo can't hit a lick, got

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Speaker 2: the worst, maybe the worst, all around shortstop in MLB.

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Speaker 2: Uh But given the choice, the Pirates will always kick

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Speaker 1: Future, future future.

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Speaker 2: It's not the right decision, but it's not necessarily the

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Speaker 1: It's just a pirate's decision.

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Speaker 2: And for them who talk about him only hit one

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Speaker 2: seventy in the spring, well that password Guy Garcia. They

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Speaker 2: was predetermined, what they intended.

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Speaker 1: To do all along your.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts and then hear all of that Tom's off today,

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Speaker 1: How do you change that? I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you go public in private, then the private school

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Speaker 2: the line that has really taken off. He is Tommy Novak. Tommy,

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Speaker 2: Has China Kow surprised everybody, Tommy, including you. He didn't

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he's been he's been great for us.

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Speaker 2: Now, throughout your career and during your time at Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the two games over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's a trend or anything, Tommy,

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Speaker 1: Not many teams do that, do they?

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Speaker 3: No, not many teams do it all over the ice

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we got to rely on more

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tommy Novack of the Penguins. You're on

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Speaker 2: the Home of the Penguins one oh five nine. Tommy,

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Speaker 2: you guys survived the stretch with Sid hurt and Gino suspended.

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Speaker 1: How difficult was that? What did you guys do to compensate?

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of guys did you know, a

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Speaker 2: Now you're at home against Colorado tomorrow, you guys just

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Speaker 1: What made that game go so well?

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys are second in the metro, but it's

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Speaker 3: Uh? I think I think everyone looks at it. I

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Speaker 2: Finally, Tommy, you you're from Saint Paul, Minnesota, the Twin

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Speaker 4: so fun that so many, so many of my best friends,

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Speaker 4: uh playing there. So yeah, it was just Uh, I've

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Speaker 4: come to ask for anything better from for the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to rippings up that team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just I love it so much.

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Speaker 2: Tommy, thank you so much for taking a time, great input,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see at the rank good luck.

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Speaker 3: All right, sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for that's Tommy Novak doing a great job for

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Speaker 2: the Penguins. That line, I mean, although Chinnikov, you know

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Speaker 2: he's a stats guy. You know I can tell, and

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Speaker 2: this ain't a bad thing scored yesterday the end of

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Speaker 2: a blowout, still going hard, still looking to get those numbers,

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00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: and that is a very potent line. He made a

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Speaker 2: good point about the backcheck, how it's not who plays centers,

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Speaker 2: who who the F three is the high forward. But

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Speaker 2: again Gino at wing, that line's really coalesced, quicker and

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Speaker 2: better than I thought it would. But got to keep

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Speaker 2: it up because well, Tommy Novak and the dressing rooms

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Speaker 2: looked at the standings. I'm sure you lot have to uh,

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Speaker 2: just the moment, we're going to talk about three things

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Speaker 2: I think the Penguin's got to do to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: One O five to nine X.

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Speaker 2: The first hour of the show brought to us by

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Speaker 2: our good friends at Shandorovid Shandrovic and Fishman. They got

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Speaker 2: your back, not your wallet. Tommy Radio was off. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: to Tom and Missus Radio on the birth of their daughter,

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Speaker 2: but the trifecta lives on. Here's three things the Penguin's

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Speaker 2: got to get right to make the playoffs. Number three,

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Speaker 2: the role player's got to pick it up. The PK

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00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: allowed three power play goals yesterday, including one in the

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Speaker 2: first couple of minutes of play, and the fourth line

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Speaker 2: and bottom defensive pair have sucked. You don't got to

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Speaker 2: be great, just don't suck. Number two sid and Gino

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Speaker 2: got to take over games. They're both playing pretty good.

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Speaker 2: They're both over a point per game since returning from

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Speaker 2: well Sidney injury and Gino the suspension. But they got

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Speaker 2: to take over games like Gino did at Denver last week.

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Speaker 2: God happened more often. You need more of that from

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Speaker 2: both guys. And number one with a bullet that the

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Speaker 2: Penguins need to make the playoffs. Better goaltending. It's just

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Speaker 2: not been good enough or even good. I think can

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Speaker 2: flip Stewart Skinner over because he's done on this side.

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Speaker 2: I'd call it morrishof But since they won't, I would

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Speaker 2: give shilloffs a bigger workload. That's the trifecta. N aps

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Speaker 2: could be. Hey, Eric Carlson, just keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: The trifecta brought to was by Danny's Petron Hogies family

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Speaker 2: owned and operated since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's Pietrod Hogies

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Speaker 2: on Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. Thanks to Tommy

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Speaker 2: Novak for joining the program. We're going to talk more

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Speaker 2: hockey with Phil Bork at three thirty than at four thirty.

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Speaker 2: We got Kevin Gorman on to talk about Connor Griffin's

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Speaker 2: demotion to Triple A, which I get but I still

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Speaker 2: would not have done. And we'll talk about some Pirate

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Speaker 2: weaknesses like the bottom third of the lineup and the bench,

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Speaker 2: which is just terrific. That said, they should not have

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Speaker 2: kept Andrew McCutcheon. I don't have guys on the bench

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Speaker 2: that can run in the outfield, in on the base pass.

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Speaker 2: And you can't let your dressing room become a museum,

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Speaker 2: as I keep saying over and over again, because I

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Speaker 2: think that's absolutely true. Eight three three four one two

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Speaker 2: WXDX thaying with hockey, you know who the best player

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Speaker 2: in hockey is the best player in Hockey's Nikita Kutrov

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Speaker 2: from Tampa, but nobody will say that because he's Russian.

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Speaker 2: True story. I think Kutrov has been on this big

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Speaker 2: run lately. He's taken over the NHL scoring lead with

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen points, zipping past McDavid and McKinnon,

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Speaker 2: who get all the good pr because they're Canadians and

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Speaker 2: not filthy comis. And I'm saying that sarcastically, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of those who count think that seriously.

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Speaker 1: Kotch does it all.

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Speaker 2: He's one of the smartest players I've ever seen. He's

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Speaker 2: got the wheels, he's got the hands, he just does everything.

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Speaker 2: He's the best player in hockey right this second. Nikita

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Speaker 2: kutro off of Tampa is the best player in hockey now.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who just zipped right past Connor mcjesus of Edmonton.

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Speaker 2: He buried his coach Saturday after Edmonton got beat by Tampa,

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Speaker 2: and he buried his goalie, Hello Jars. Although he won

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Speaker 2: in the net that night, he's mostly been on the

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Speaker 2: bench because that trade has just turned out to be

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Speaker 2: absolutely disastrous for Edmonton. McDavid very passive, aggressive. He said

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Speaker 2: Tampa is well coached, well organized, rehearsed and have a

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Speaker 2: great goaltender behind him. That is passive, aggressive, mass murder

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Speaker 2: of me. He goes get a body bag because McDavid's

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Speaker 2: basically saying Tampa got this, and we don't hear at Edmonton,

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Speaker 2: and don't forget you got McDavid talking that Yang and

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Speaker 2: he's the captain, and especially don't forget the cannab Their

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Speaker 2: coach was McDavid's coach in junior a hockey cana Block

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Speaker 2: was handpicked by McDavid to come there and do things

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Speaker 2: as per McDavid's wishes, but it ain't working on so

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Speaker 2: he turned heel on him. McDavid's not a winner, that's

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Speaker 2: the problem, and probably won't ever win that Four Nations goal.

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Speaker 2: Notwithstanding he scored an overtime goal to win a relatively

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Speaker 2: minor tournament. I mean, yeah, okay, great, but he was

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Speaker 2: out there and made a couple mistakes when the US

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Speaker 2: scored that game winning goal in overtime, Jack used the

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Speaker 2: golden goal, McDavid not hustling back, and when he did

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Speaker 2: get back, gave Use a soft spot to get behind

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Speaker 2: him instead of just picking up used mono imano so

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Speaker 2: McDavid could point fingers all he likes. But I see

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Speaker 2: a ton of what's happened at Edmonton that's gone wrong

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Speaker 2: being his fault. Even that consmith here didn't score in

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Speaker 2: game six or seven. Last season they got to the

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Speaker 2: final again, didn't score in game six, the elimination game.

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Speaker 2: Tired of that guy. Tired of that guy. He's a

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Speaker 2: sour puss. Eight three to three, four one two WXDX.

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Speaker 2: Now a question I'd like to bounce off you would

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Speaker 2: you have kept Griffin and started him on shortstop opening Day?

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have a lengthy monologue about this later

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Speaker 2: in the week. But I want the Parts to be good.

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Speaker 2: I want to get the Pirates back. I love the

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Speaker 2: Parts as a kid, and they've ruined it for a

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Speaker 2: bunch of decades in a row.

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Speaker 1: They have.

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Speaker 2: How can you deny that, even if you love them now,

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Speaker 2: you can't deny how they've betrayed the logo and betrayed

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Speaker 2: their fan base, even if the younger fans in that

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Speaker 2: fan base are too.

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Speaker 1: Stupid enough to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I want the Parts to be good, and I think

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Speaker 2: the best bet for them to be good this year

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Speaker 2: is for Griffin to be a shortstop on opening.

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Speaker 1: Day now he won't be. And I get it.

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Speaker 2: Never played triple A ball, not one at bat, only

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Speaker 2: eighty three bats. I think it is in double A ball,

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Speaker 2: So I get it. He's got big league talent but

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Speaker 2: might not quite be big league ready. But I still

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Speaker 2: think it's an educated gamble I would have taken. And

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Speaker 2: I think the Jared Triolo is the worst shortstop in MLB.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the worst guy starting at the position

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Speaker 2: in MLB.

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Speaker 1: And you might.

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Speaker 2: Say, well, be patient. Griffin will get here sooner or

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Speaker 2: not later. And I do believe he'll get to Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: soon or not later. But what will the Pirates record

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Speaker 2: be when he arrives. I'm just tired of waiting. You

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Speaker 2: tell me to have patience. I'm tired of waiting. No

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Speaker 2: playoff series win since nineteen seventy nine, no playoffs periods

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Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen, only one winning record since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I understand sending Griffin a triple A, but don't you

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Speaker 2: dare tell me to be patient. In a way, it's

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Speaker 2: similar to the Penguins with Moroshof. I wrote a column

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Speaker 2: that for the trip the similarities, morishofs their goal in

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Speaker 2: the future he's probably the best goalie in the system.

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Speaker 2: Now Skinner's not playing good, why wouldn't you call him up?

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Speaker 2: But as with Griffin go into Triple A, the Penguins

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Speaker 2: just aren't going to do that. I saw that there

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Speaker 2: was a bit of a I wouldn't say worry, but

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Speaker 2: discussion because Skeen's's velocity has dipped a little bit down

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Speaker 2: here at the closest spring training. To me, that's not

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Speaker 2: a concern even a little bit. You know how hard

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Speaker 2: the guy can throw. He ain't more out yet. Remember

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Speaker 2: when Kurt Shilling, I mean, my god, it's March. If

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Speaker 2: he's worn out now, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think so, though.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Kurt Shilling talked about Bubba Chandler doing max

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Speaker 2: effort all the time, throwing as hard as he can

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Speaker 2: on every pitch, and how that might damage his arm,

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Speaker 2: and how he's not ramping up to the season like

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Speaker 2: you probably ought to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's what Skeen's is doing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's dialing it back a little bit so he

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Speaker 2: could ramp it back up for the start of the season, which,

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Speaker 2: of course his Thursday schemes will be pitching at the

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Speaker 2: New York Mets in the Bucko season, opener.

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Speaker 1: Gotta mention this.

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Speaker 2: My buddy Rob Mazie had a March Madness party on

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Speaker 2: Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I went to it.

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Speaker 2: This sports bar in Greach, Hee got I wish I

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Speaker 2: remember the name. I've been there a couple times, at

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Speaker 2: a great sports bar. I like going there. I'll mention

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Speaker 2: it a little bit later. That's Rob the Scalp. I've

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Speaker 2: talked about him. Triple A, primetime tickets, big business, big

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Speaker 2: time crowd at the party. Darren morning Star from pitt basketball.

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Speaker 2: Jim Render, my friend, the coaching legend from Upper Saint

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Speaker 2: Clair High School football. And how about this guy hadn't

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Speaker 2: seen him in decades. Major Harris Wvu Heisman finalist for

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Speaker 2: Sheer High School and all time Pittsburgh athletes. So a

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Speaker 2: good time was had by all, like I said, bought him.

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Speaker 2: Next hour talking to Phil Bork about the Penguins. I

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Speaker 2: want your thoughts on the Pens. I want your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on Griffin being sent down. Dial now eight three three

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Speaker 2: four one