1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Friday edition of the Dan O'Donell Show, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: and a Merry Christmas to one and all our hearts 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: are somewhat heavy in Southeast Wisconsin, especially those of us 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: who are from the South suburbs, as a Muskego institution 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: burns to the ground early this morning. We will get 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: into that. How can you help the family who owns 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: the Bass Bay brew House find out in just one second? 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: Plus a grave injustice in the Wisconsin court system. It 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: should come as no surprise that Wisconsin's Attorney General, Josh 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: call is not actually interested in the application of any 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: real justice, but the witch hunt of Jim Troopis, which 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: came to a head today with a letter written by 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson demanding that Attorney General Pam Bondi investigate 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: alleged serious misconduct by the Dane County Circuit Court judge 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: in this case. We will get into all of that, 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: plus the daily Trump date. We'll talk with our friend 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Will Martin, candidate for Lieutenant Governor, coming up in the 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: five o'clock our. Of course, it's Friday. How bizarre strangest 19 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: stories of the past seven days. We name the unhinged 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Liberal of the day, who could possibly think that jingle 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: Bells is racist? Look, I at least get the baby 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: It's Cold Outside is a song about date rape controversy 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: of about seven or eight years ago. It was ridiculous. 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Clearly the song is not about date rape, as I 25 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: did a thorough debunking of that when the controversy first 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: reared its head during the Me Too movement of twenty 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: seventeen twenty eighteen. At least I could sort of see that, 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: say what's in this drink? The lyric and baby It's 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Cold outside? Okay, you can make maybe make the case 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: that the guy was rufieing the girl, aside from the 31 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: fact that the song was written in nineteen forty seven 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: and rufe's didn't really exist until Bill Cosby invented them. 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: I made that last part up. That's a joke. Jingle 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: Bells is racist. It's a real thing. We will explore 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: it in the Unhinged Liberal of the Day Unsung Hero 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: of the Day as well. If you'd like to join 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: us today four one, four seven, nine, nine eleven thirty, 38 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: that is of course all right. 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Obviously, everyone woke up this 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: morning to some devastating news The bass Bay brew House 69 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: in Muskigo. This is right on Bass Bay, hence the 70 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: name on Big Miskigo Lake or is it Little Mischigo 71 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Lake one of the Miskeigo Lakes. I feel like I 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: should know this since I grew up somewhat nearby. You 73 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: want to know how old school I am? Bassbae brew 74 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: House is on Audmar Drive. It's right by, as every 75 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: kid who grew up in the nineteen eighties and nineteen 76 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: nineties will know. Producer Eric, do you know what? The 77 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Bass Bay brew House is? Right by the lake? Bush? Now, 78 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: it's not really nearby that kind of Bush's is on 79 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Janesville and Bush's is actually no longer there. Unfortunately, Bushy 80 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: passed away a few years back. I went to grade 81 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: school with the Bushberger family. Wonderful, wonderful family. Nope, not 82 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: the old amusement park site. Hauntchyville. Yeah, see, Eric's an 83 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: old school southeastern Wisconsin guy. Hauntchyville, Hauntchyeville. Even before I 84 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: knew what the audmar back then was. Actually I think 85 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: I did know what the oudmar was. I knew of Hauntcheyville, 86 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: and every teenager took a drive out to what is 87 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: now luxury homes. But there was a rumor that it 88 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: was some sort of farm full of little people. And 89 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: the version of the story I heard was that the 90 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: little people were jealous of people who were of normal height, 91 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and if you trespassed on their little person farm, they 92 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: would cut off the bottom of your legs, so you 93 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: would have to live the rest of your life as 94 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: a little person. Or maybe they just murdered you. I 95 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: don't know, but somehow they escaped the Muskego Police Department's 96 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: radar for many, many years and Hauncheville, the legend of 97 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Hauncheville was born. Yes, it was just as stupid as 98 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: it sounds. Ladies and gentlemen. Just down the road from 99 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: Hauntcheville is the bassbe brew House. It was formerly the Oudmar, 100 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: and the Ashman family has owned it pretty much off 101 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: and on since the nineteen fifties. According to the Milwaukee 102 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Journal Sentinel, Ryan Ashman, the current owner of Bass Bay, 103 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: His grandparents operated a supper club on the property until 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five before passing down to Ryan's parents. His 105 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: parents operated the Oddmar until two thousand and six before 106 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: it closed. It had an uncertain future. Then in twenty fourteen, 107 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: Ryan and his mother Laurie, as well as some other partners, 108 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: decided to re enter the family business. Bassbe brew House 109 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: opened in its current iteration the following year, twenty fifteen. 110 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Now I think everybody knows someone who was married at 111 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: Bass Bay Brewhouse. I believe I've been to at least 112 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: one wedding, possibly two weddings if memory serves, either at 113 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: the Oddmar or at Bass Bay brew House. And frankly 114 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: I went there all the time. When I hosted shows 115 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: in the morning, I would actually take my uncle Steve 116 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: to a post show lunch at the bass Beet was 117 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: our favorite spot on Friday afternoons because you'd sit out 118 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: and you'd look at the lake. And early this morning 119 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the fire spread so quickly and so violent that it 120 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: was apparent by about six thirty seven am the building 121 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: was just going to be a total loss. The Muskigo 122 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: Police Department has now confirmed that Bassbe brew House is 123 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: just a total loss. The structure is just gone. It 124 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: took them until about one thirty pm with about a 125 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: dozen fire departments helping out with putting out this fire, 126 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: in order to finally get the flames under control, but 127 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: the building was just completely consumed and you could actually 128 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: see the plume of smoke from miles and miles and 129 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: miles away. Now people have been wondering how exactly you 130 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: can help out the family, and you can help out 131 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: all of the people who worked there who suddenly, just 132 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: less than two weeks before Christmas have lost their source 133 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: of income. Well, Ryan Ashman and his business partner Ashman 134 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: or Oshman. I apologize if I am butchering that last name. 135 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: His business partner, Andy Meinen also own Milk Can, Hamburgers 136 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and Frozen Custard on Jamesville Road and Mesquita. I can 137 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: tell you there. I've gone there a number of times. 138 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: That's sort of the go to place after school dances 139 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: or concerts or things like that, where we, you know, 140 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: take my daughter or whatever. Facebook posts from people in 141 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: Muskego are encouraging everyone to go to Milk Can, Hamburgers 142 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: and Frozen Custard in order to support the family, who 143 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: can then potentially support their workers, and a number of 144 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: workers have been talking to local media the Milwaukee Journal 145 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: Sentinel Today's TMJ four Fox six just about how close 146 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: the staff was. I can tell you as someone who 147 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: went to Bass Bay brew House regularly for family dinners. 148 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Do you do want to know how often we went 149 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: to Bass Bay brew House? When I woke up, I 150 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: woke my wife and kids up. Oh my god. Now 151 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm sort of notorious in my family because obviously I'm 152 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: constantly connected to the news. I am constantly on my 153 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: phone just getting news and information, and I'm notorious for saying, 154 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, or guys, oh my And then I'll 155 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: be so engrossed in the story that everyone will think, like, 156 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: you know, Aunt Gladys died or something like that, and 157 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: it'll actually be you know, oh my gosh, Tony Evers, 158 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: is it running for reelection or something like that, Like God, Dad, 159 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: come on well this one. It was oh my god, 160 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Bass Bay brew House is burning to the ground and 161 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the family was just stunned. My wife said, you won't 162 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: believe this. I was actually thinking after your show tonight 163 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: we should go to the bass Bae brew House because 164 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: they always decorate it so wonderfully for Christmas time. And 165 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: fortunately it is now reduced to ashes. Now, there is 166 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: always speculation. I am just going to tell you, folks, 167 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I have never seen a massive fire in a very 168 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: popular place like this, or a very high profile fire 169 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: in which someone didn't immediately suspect that there was arson 170 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: or I think some people have watched way too many 171 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: mob movies or episodes of the Sopranos. They think the 172 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: fire was intentionally started to cash in on insurance. There's 173 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: there's no evidence, at least right now now. The state 174 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Fire Marshal has been called in to investigate, but that's typical. 175 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: Miss Gigo Police Department put out in a press release 176 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: a couple of hours ago that this is standard operating procedure. 177 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: This does not mean that they believe that this fire 178 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: was intentionally set. In what I can tell you from 179 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: just talking, A number of my friends are a firefighter. 180 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: They say, it is remarkably easy for a restaurant to 181 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: go up in flames. Unfortunately, obviously, the kitchen fires happen 182 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: all the time. Sometimes they get out of control. And 183 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: the Bassbe brew House had a tremendous amount of natural 184 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: wood in it, which means a whole lot of fuel 185 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: for that fire. So you could have potentially an electrical fire, 186 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: you have a grease fire, you have some sort of 187 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: natural gas explosion. I'm not saying that you can immediately 188 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: rule out an arson, like I'm not going to blame 189 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: the little people over at Haunchyville for setting the Bass 190 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Bay brew House ablaze, But I'm saying that immediately on 191 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: social media people will begin to speculate that this is 192 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: an arson, and I would just be very hesitant to 193 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: call it that just because restaurants bars. I mean, there 194 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: was another place that I really enjoy that is just 195 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful place called the Hale House. It's in 196 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: my neck of the woods where I grew up. I 197 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: grew up in the Greenfield. Hales Corners areas right down 198 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Forest Home from Saint Mary's Hales Corners. Obviously, my alma 199 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: matern that just had a really bad fire. I'm not 200 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: sure did they reopen. Producer Eric Dave Michaels would know. 201 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: He goes to. He goes to all of those places. 202 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: The Varsity Club, which is just down the street from 203 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: the radio station here on Beloit in one hundred and 204 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty four. That's actually owned by my old gym teacher 205 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: from Whitnell High School, mister Teipner. I'm not sure if 206 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: he's still yeah, actually he does still own it. But 207 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Dave Michael's apparently there all the time. I get random 208 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: texts on Friday nights. Hey, you want to meet me 209 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: out at Varsity Club. I'm like, dude, it's five point fifteen, 210 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm right in the middle of the third hour of 211 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: my show. You'll go, all right, you knock off early. 212 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Join Michaels over at the Varsity Club. But Halehouse also 213 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: suffered extensive damage because of a kitchen fire. I mean, 214 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: these things, unfortunately, do happen, and when you see a 215 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: fire just consume a building that quickly. People tend to 216 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they get conspiratorial, but what 217 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: they do is they have a tendency to immediately suspect 218 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: foul play. Where I can tell you there absolutely, one 219 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent is foul play is in the prosecution of 220 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: a respected member of Wisconsin's legal community over the so 221 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: called fake electors scheme. We will get into that. A 222 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: grave injustice being committed right now. Dan O'Donnell show coming 223 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: back in three minutes. I just feel so bad for 224 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the Oshman Oshman family and everyone who is suddenly out 225 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: of a job for at least the foreseeable future after 226 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: the Bass Bay brew House spurned to the ground. It 227 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: just especially this close to Christmas time, Christmas less than 228 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: two weeks away now, folks, if I hear of any 229 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: way to support the family, to support those displaced workers, 230 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: I will of course pass that along. People have been 231 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: asking me all day if there's a GoFundMe or anything 232 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: like that. In the meantime, I will encourage you to 233 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: stop by the milk can, Hamburger and Custard stand on 234 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Jamesville Road. I am told the family is just absolutely 235 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: devastated by what happened. I mean they owned the bassbe 236 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: brew House, the Audmar before it, the supper club on 237 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: that site since the nineteen fifties. I mean we are 238 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: on the third generation of owners of it, and to 239 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: see it just destroyed like that in a matter of hours, 240 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: after decades and decades and decades of serving them. Skigo 241 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: community is just a testament to you know, people say, well, Dan, 242 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: who cares that much about a restaurant? No, you know, 243 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: first of all, screw you. Second of all, these aren't 244 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: These are pillars of the community, especially in smaller communities 245 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: like Muskigo, New Berlin right around there, Greendale. I mean, 246 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: these are big, big parts of the community. And these 247 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: are neighbors, these are these are families, these are friends. 248 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: And anyway, if if, if anyway I can be of assistance, 249 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm pretty easy to find if there's 250 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: a GoFundMe if if there's anything right now, I will say, 251 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: if you are looking for something to do tonight, you're 252 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: looking for for dinner options. Heck, if you're going home 253 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: from school with your kids right now, why not. They're 254 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: they're whining that they're hungry before basketball practice or a 255 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: volleyball game or whatever it is that you've got going 256 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: on tonight. Why not take them to the milkcan Welcome 257 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: back to the Dan O'Donnell Show. It is classical conservatism 258 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: and contemporary style. The gravest injustice in the criminal justice 259 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: system right now is very likely. The prosecution of the 260 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: so called fake electors. Jim troopis chief among them, one 261 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: of the attorneys who was representing President Trump here in 262 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Wisconsin as the Trump campaign was protesting the twenty twenty 263 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: election loss. This has been going on since literally December 264 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: fourteenth of twenty twenty. And would you believe that for 265 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: four years, despite the protestations of insane leftists that the 266 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: fake elector scandal was criminal in nature, Josh Cole's Department 267 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: of Justice was saying it is totally fine. In twenty 268 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty four, however, suddenly calls Justice Department changed course, very 269 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: likely under significant political pressure to quote unquote do something 270 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: about the so called mastermind of the fake elector scheme. 271 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: So he charged troopis as well as Kenneth Chesbrow, another 272 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: co defendant and another attorney for President Trump, for putting 273 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: forward an alternate slate of electors. Now I know when 274 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: I talk about this stuff, people's eyes tend to glaze over. Basically, 275 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: what happens is in a presidential election, because we have 276 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: something called the electoral College, you don't technically vote directly for, 277 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: say Donald Trump. You vote for the electors that Donald 278 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign will send to the Electoral College, and usually 279 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: on December fourteenth or at some point thereabouts, those electors 280 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: will meet, cast their electoral votes, and then the election 281 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: is officially completed on January sixth. This was the reason 282 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: for the January sixth riot at the Capitol in twenty 283 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty one, the Congress will officially count those votes. Now, 284 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: it's mistakenly been believed for almost five years now that 285 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Congress will then officially certify the votes, and that Congress somehow, 286 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: or even worse, Vice President Mike Pence somehow had the 287 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: ability to say, no, we're not certifying this. The election 288 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: is actually going to be either rerun or we are 289 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: going to just hand the presidency over to Donald Trump. 290 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: There were a number of Trump supporters who unfortunately believed this. 291 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't true. Essentially, count the electoral votes is nothing 292 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: more than a formality. The election is made official once 293 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the electors meet and the Electoral College votes are cast. Now, 294 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: what happens if, like in twenty twenty, there is some 295 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: sort of challenge, If there's a court challenge to the 296 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: electoral count, what happens? What would be the mechanism if 297 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: the electoral college is going to meet, and remember, once 298 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: the electors have voted, there's really not a whole lot 299 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: you can do because the electoral college results are done, 300 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: the election is over, we've got a new president. What 301 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 1: you can do, and case law throughout the decades has 302 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: held this up is put forth an alternate slate of electors. 303 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: For example, Joe Biden one, we assume Wisconsin in twenty 304 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty by about twenty one thousand votes. His electors went 305 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: to Madison on December fourteenth to cast their ballots. Also 306 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: at the Capitol was an alternate slate of electors that 307 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: were picked by the Trump campaign, who if the Wisconsin 308 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court were to rule for some reason that Trump 309 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: actually won Wisconsin, they would then cast electoral votes and 310 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: those votes would go to the Congress. There is actually 311 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: a whole lot of history behind this. In fact, the 312 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: most notable example of this goes all the way back 313 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: to the nineteen sixty presidential election. In the very first 314 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: election in which Hawaii, a newly admitted state, was taking part, 315 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon very narrowly won the state. The Kennedy team, 316 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy asked for a recount. Now, Hawaii didn't matter. 317 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: It did not have very many electoral votes. Kennedy had 318 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: already won thanks to his father cheating in Illinois and Texas. No, 319 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm there are still questions in my mind about the 320 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty presidential election. You say there's no such thing 321 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: as voter frau. Look at what was going on in 322 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Chicago in nineteen sixty. Nonetheless, Hawaii didn't really matter, but 323 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: the Kennedy campaign still said, hey, we think we actually 324 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: won Hawaii. What they did, as Richard Nixon's electors were 325 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: meeting in Hawaii, Kennedy had an alternate slate of electors 326 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: also cast their ballots. Both sets of ballots were sent 327 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: to Congress to be formally accepted. Sure enough, a recount 328 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: sometime late in December. I believe the dueling sets of 329 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: electors met on December nineteenth, sometime shortly after Christmas. The 330 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: recount came back and lo and behold, Kennedy won by 331 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: a tiny handful of votes. It was like something like 332 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety votes, and the alternate electors were 333 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: actually counted. Their votes were counted for Kennedy and in 334 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: the official nineteen sixty electoral total. John F. Kennedy, you 335 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: will see one Hawaii. Forty years later, in the infamous 336 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Bush v. Gore decision, in her dissent, the notorious RBG 337 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg effectively held that since al 338 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: Gore didn't have an alternate slate of electors and there 339 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: was no real remediation for him, he couldn't just have 340 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: recounts go on and on and on and on. So 341 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Ginsburg said, I would have sided with the four to 342 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: three majority if I didn't think that this was going 343 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: to be such a broadly applied case, which of course 344 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: it absolutely has been in the last twenty five years. 345 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: She said, you need to have alternate slates of electors. 346 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Not only that, in what is quite possibly the most 347 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: damning thing I have ever seen thrown back at a 348 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: prosecuting agency. Do you know who also said, yeah, you 349 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: should probably have an alternate slate of electors as a 350 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: precaution in case you actually won an election that would 351 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: get overturned. Josh Call, that's right. In documents that were 352 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: unsealed in the Troopist prosecution in September, Call wrote a 353 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: DOJ memo, or at least Calls do wrote a memo 354 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: regarding a civil lawsuit filed against Troopists as well as 355 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: the alternate electors that was engineered by Law Forward. Law 356 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Forward is a left wing legal advocacy and activist group 357 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: that files frivolous lawsuits against conservatives. So they made complaints 358 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: to the Wisconsin Election Commission alleging that the alternate electors 359 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: violated the law. In turn, the Wisconsin Election Commission said, Hey, 360 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: we're not entirely sure. We need guidance from Cahle's Department 361 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: of Justice. Wouldn't you know it, The DOJ said, alternate 362 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: electors are perfectly fine. The DOJ memo noted Troopists openly 363 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: and publicly forecasted that the alternate electors would meet by 364 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: stating in his brief, Hey, we're going to meet presidential 365 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: elections which are not resolved by the time the presidential 366 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: electors must cast their votes pursuant of blah blah blah 367 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, we need to have an alternate 368 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: slate of electors. When those alternate electors met on December fourteenth, 369 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the Wisconsin Supreme Court had not yet reached 370 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: its decision. It actually reached its decision later on that 371 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: afternoons the afternoon of December fourteenth, twenty twenty, and using 372 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: the doctrine of latches, which basically means the Trump campaign 373 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: didn't bring its complaint quickly enough and there was no 374 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: adequate remedy, which was absolutely asinine. Brian Hagadorn joining the 375 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: liberals there, thank you very much, alleged conservative Brian hagador 376 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: And there actually was ample evidence that Wisconsin's twenty twenty 377 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: presidential election was not held in accordance with state law. Nonetheless, 378 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: because there was still an ongoing dispute, call Zone, DOJ 379 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: was saying, yeah, they were totally authorized to have alternate electors. 380 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Here is about the most damning self own I think. 381 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I remember this is calls DOJ writing in September of 382 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, two years before it prosecutes troopists for 383 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: alternate electors. DOJ found that nothing quote prohibits or otherwise 384 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: limits a party from meeting to cast electoral votes during 385 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: a challenge to an election tabulation. The statutes say nothing 386 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: about an alternative set of electors casting votes, and do 387 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: not expressly prohibit a slate of electors from casting votes 388 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: to preserve their votes in case pending legal challenges prove successful. 389 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Even assuming the complainants were right that respondents had no 390 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: duty to meet, it does not necessarily follow that meeting 391 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: violated the law. The complainant's argument that the respondents were 392 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: not electors presumes the outcome of the state procedures, and 393 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: as noted above, Wisconsin law does not prohar bit an 394 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: alternative set of electors from meeting. Emphasis of course mine 395 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Josh Calls DJ said in September of twenty twenty two. Quote, 396 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Wisconsin law does not prohibit an alternative set of electors 397 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: from meeting. Yet Josh Call prosecutes Jim Troopis and Kenneth 398 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: Chesbrow and other defendants for putting together an alternate slate 399 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: of electors. This isn't a crime. It was never a crime. 400 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Calls DOJ was even saying as recently a September of 401 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that this was not a crime. How 402 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: does how is this prosecution not been thrown out? They 403 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: just added more charges of forgery of forgery. They're pretending 404 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: the DOJ is that Jim Troopis tricked these electors into believe. 405 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: Do you know I've talked to a number of the 406 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote fake electors. They knew exactly what they were doing. 407 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: Do you know I knew that the fake electors were 408 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: meeting in the morning hours of December fourteenth, twenty twenty. 409 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: Do you know how I knew that? Because I got 410 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: a press release from the State Republican Party. I'll bet 411 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: if I go back through my email, I've still got 412 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: that press release somewhere. They didn't try to hide anything. 413 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: They said, this is an alternate slate of electors just 414 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: in case we win in the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Now, 415 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: why is it? Why is it that this case has 416 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: not been tossed? If a random radio host in Milwaukee 417 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: can can look at a DOJ memo from twenty twenty 418 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: two and after, hey, DOJ, you're you're prosecuting this guy, 419 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: but you said two years before you start the prosecution, 420 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing illegal about what he did. Having a difficult 421 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: time seeing why this case should still be in court. 422 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: If I can see it, why can't a judge see it? 423 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: And that is what we're going to get to next, 424 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: because there are some very serious allegations against the judge 425 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: trying this case that now appear to have gotten the 426 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: attention of the Department of Justice. We are going to 427 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: get into that major development coming up next here on 428 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald's show. Yes, I have seen ladies and 429 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: gentlemen that there is apparently a go fundme on behalf 430 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: of the family and the workers at Basspe Brew House 431 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: that's raised a good amount of money. Until I see 432 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: from either the family or I have no reason to 433 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: doubt the person that set this up is legit and 434 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: that the money will go to the people it's desired 435 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: to go to. I just I actually, weirdly enough, you 436 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about strange coincidences. Years ago, I was 437 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: publicizing a GoFundMe, and I'm not going to tell you 438 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: the context of the story because I don't want to. 439 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: In any event, I don't want to just you know, 440 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: name people or it was a very high profile story. 441 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: This is a long time ago you probably would not remember. 442 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: And uh, like I said, I went to the Bass 443 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: Bay Brew House quite a bit. I was there with 444 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: my uncle and we were just kind of hanging out 445 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: and having lunch. And on that morning show, I had 446 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: given out a go Fundme address er, I had posted 447 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: a go fund Me, and there was a big rift 448 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: between the family and the significant other of the person 449 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: that this gofund me was benefiting funeral expenses and that 450 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and everybody. It became a huge thing 451 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: that the people have please take down the post. This 452 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: is not an official GoFundMe. You have to direct donations 453 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: to the Oh God. So I said, look, I want 454 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: to help as much as I can, but until I 455 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: know that this is an official gofundmere, there's an official 456 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: fund set up, I'm not going to publicize anything. And weirdly, 457 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: when all this stuff went down, When all of this 458 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: went down, where was I bass Babe brew House. What 459 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: a weird coincidence. I just literally thought of that. Now 460 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: as we were coming back from breaking, people were sending 461 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: me links to a GoFundMe. So until I see like 462 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the family's blessing or a city of Muskigo, if the 463 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: mayor out there or somebody on the city council. Yes, yes, 464 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: this is absolutely for the workers, for the staff, for 465 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the family. Yes, absolutely to help the the Best Bay 466 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: brew House rebuild. I'm not going to give it out. 467 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can find it if you want to 468 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: give it out. Again. Again, I'm not impugning the gentleman 469 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: who started the GoFundMe. I just I've been burned by 470 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: this before, and I have enough people mad at me 471 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. All right, Jim Troopis is the 472 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: victim of easily the worst political persecution, not even a prosecution, 473 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: a persecution. He and his co defendants are facing an 474 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: obvious witch hunt by a DOJ who admitted in a 475 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: memo that the defendants did nothing wrong, that there is 476 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: no underlying crime that they committed by putting together a 477 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: slate of so called fake electors to cast alternate electoral 478 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: ballots in twenty twenty. Those are alternate electors. They're perfectly lawful. 479 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: They are perfectly legal. Josh call Z own DOJ said, so, so, 480 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: why is the judge in this case, John Hyland not 481 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: dismissing the charges well. In a letter written by Senator 482 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Johnson alleges, citing 483 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: evidence from Troopis's attorneys, that in fact, the judge John 484 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: Hyland is so biased against Troops that he outsourced the 485 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: writing of a decision on emotion to quash or emotion 486 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: to dismiss emotion in this case, he outsourced it to 487 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: a fellow Circuit Court judge Frank Remington, another left winger 488 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: like Highland. And I've actually had some dealings with Highland 489 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: myself based on an article I wrote for the MacIvor 490 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: Institute years and years and years ago. He took such 491 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: exception to it that he penned a big rebuttal and 492 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: demanded that MacIvor print it. We did, and I wrote 493 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: a rebuttal to his rebuttal proving that the entire Dane 494 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: County Circuit Court is a bunch of soft on crime, 495 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: dangerous lunatics that puts communities in danger in any event. 496 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: So I know what Hyland is all about. Johnson is 497 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: alleging that, in a huge breach of judicial ethics and 498 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: the law, Frankly Hyland had Frank Remington write an opinion 499 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: for him. Now I'm not going to speculate on whether 500 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: he did or he didn't, but Troopis's attorneys apparently used 501 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: handwriting or language and syntax, I should say, experts to 502 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: say without a doubt this was written. So they basically 503 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: gave these experts a whole bunch of writing by John Hyland, 504 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: whole bunch of writing by Frank Remington, is that this 505 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: opinion is not written by John Hyland. It's written by 506 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: Frank Remington. I have no idea, and Johnson is saying 507 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: to PAMBONDI, Hey, you should probably take a look at this. 508 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: This is Johnson's way of letting the do o j 509 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: know about this insane miscarriage of justice. The only fair, 510 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: just human thing to do in this price to drop 511 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: all charges. None of this was ever a crime. It's 512 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: a farce and frankly, it's ruining people's lives simply because 513 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: Josh Hall wants to score political points with the radical left. 514 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: We name the unhinged liberal of the day someone who 515 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: actually believes jingle Bells is racist. Yeah, seriously, that's coming 516 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: up in just five minutes, America. Today's unhinged Liberal of 517 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: the day is Joy Reid, whose show is canceled by MSNBC, 518 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: but you can't cancel her crazy from our Hearts. She 519 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: shared a video on her social media claiming that the 520 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: song jingle Bells is actually racist. No, I'm not kidding. 521 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: According to this video, the first caption this is where 522 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: a racist Confederate soldier wrote jingle Bells to make fun 523 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: of black people. The video says James Lord Pierpont, who 524 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: wrote the song with Strapped for Cash and wrote the 525 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: original version for performances where white actors in blackface make 526 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: fun of black people that I don't think I need 527 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: to tell you is not at all true. We'll get 528 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: into this in greater depth than how bizarre coming up 529 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: in the five o'clock hour. For now, those suffice it 530 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: to say, joy Read is once again your unhinged liberal 531 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: of the day. Welcome back to the Dan o'donald show, 532 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas to one. In all hard to believe, 533 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: but there are just two weekends until the big day, 534 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: December twenty fifth, now less than two weeks away. I'm 535 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: sure those of you with young children didn't need the reminder. 536 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: They've certain been doing their Advent calendars? Are the Lego 537 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: Advent calendars still big? We used to get every year 538 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: the Lego Advent calendars for our kids. They've sort of 539 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: outgrown them. Our daughter's eleven and she still likes the 540 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: Advent calendar stuff. Boys are teenagers. You can barely get 541 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: them to wash themselves at this point, let alone fill 542 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: out Advent calendars or open up Advent calendars and do 543 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: little legos before school each morning. Anyway, Welcome back, to 544 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: the program four o'clock Our underway. Here are the Dan 545 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: O'Donnell Show. One hour from now, we will chat with 546 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Will Martin, candidate for Lieutenant governor. And also How Bizarre 547 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: Strangest Stories of the Past seven Days? Yes, Joy Reid 548 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: really did share a video of some idiot claiming that 549 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: James Lord Pierpont wrote the poem one Horse Open Sleigh, 550 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: which we now know as jingle Bells to be performed 551 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: in minstrel shows. It was performed in minstrel shows, but 552 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: it was not written for that. It was actually written 553 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving, had nothing to do Whatso there is nothing 554 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: whatsoever in the song that has to do with racism. 555 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: But Joy Reid and her merry band of idiots believe 556 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: that jingle Bells is now racist. We'll get into that. Also, 557 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: what font is too woke for the Trump administration? Five 558 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: o'clock hour, How Bizarre Strangest Stories of the past seven days? 559 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: If you want to join us this hour four one 560 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: four seven, nine to nine eleven thirty or one eight 561 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: hundred eight three eight nine four seven six, email me 562 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: dood at iHeartMedia dot com at Dan o'donnald show on 563 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: X on Facebook, on Instagram. We are streaming on all 564 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: of those as well as on YouTube. Please do subscribe 565 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: to the Dan o'donald Show podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever 566 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: you to podcasts. 567 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna win so much you may even get. 568 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Tired of winning. Trump just keeps winning. It is a 569 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: win for the administration. 570 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: It's also a big win for the United States. 571 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: We have to keep winning. We have to win. 572 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: Moore. 573 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna win. Moore, never cancel this theme song to 574 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: the Daily Trump Day, your look at what was going 575 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: on at the Trump White House and beyond. The President 576 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: announced that the leaders of Thailand and Cambodia today agreed 577 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: to a cease fire in their border conflict, effective immediately 578 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: following his phone calls with Prime Minister and new twin 579 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try this one, Chun brick Coo 580 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: not fighting with Cambodia anymore and Prime Minister Khun Manette. 581 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: The deal revives a US broker accord from earlier this year, 582 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: with the leader of Malaysia also providing assistance. The National 583 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: Trust for Historic Preservation has sued the President to block 584 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: construction of the ninety thousand square foot ballroom in the 585 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: demolished East Wing, claiming it violates federal historic preservation laws 586 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: and requires congressional approval. President Trump dismissed the need for permit, 587 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: asserting correctly presidential authority. The Trump administration has also initiated 588 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: plans to replenish the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, depleted by over 589 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: two hundred million barrels under President Biden for political reasons. 590 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: In the summer of twenty twenty two. Those reasons, well, 591 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: gas prices has had hit five dollars a gallon right 592 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: before an important mid term election. Surging US oil production 593 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: under President Trump is driving gas prices lower and supports 594 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: that refilm. Meanwhile, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy announced that the 595 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: state of New York is giving cs commercial driver's licenses 596 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: to illegals at a truly stunning race. So we've done 597 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: this nationwide audit. 598 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 4: We found the worst defender, which is the State of 599 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 4: New York. Fifty three percent of New York's non domiciled 600 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 4: CDLs were issued unlawfully or illegally. 601 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: Fifty three percent more than half. And that's not just 602 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: CDLs for illegals. Non domiciled licenses. We have those in 603 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin or temporary licenses non domiciled are for those who 604 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: have temporary licenses to operate within the state of New York. 605 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: Fifty three percent more than fifty percent were issued unlawfully 606 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: or illegally. How exactly is New York doing this stuff, 607 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: he explained. 608 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 4: If an applicant comes in and they have a work 609 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: authorization for thirty days, sixty days, one year, New York 610 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: automatically issues them an eight year commercial driver's license. That's 611 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 4: contrary to the law. That's one offense. But we also 612 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 4: found that New York many times won't even verify whether 613 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 4: they have a work authorization, they have a visa, or 614 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 4: they're in the country legally. So they're just giving eight 615 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 4: year commercial driver's licenses to people who are coming through 616 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 4: their DMV and sending them out on American roadways. And again, 617 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: they're endangering the lives of American families. 618 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: They certainly are a number of cases in well. I 619 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: would say they made the news, a number of recent 620 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: cases in the news, but they really didn't outside of 621 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 1: conservative outlights highlight just how badly illegal immigrant truck drivers, 622 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: many of whom cannot read English and thus cannot read 623 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: traffic signs, are causing terrible accidents that are killing Americans. 624 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: That ladies and gentlemen, you're Daily Trump Date four today, 625 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: December twelfth, twenty twenty five. We spent much of the 626 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour talking about and thoroughly debunking the alternate 627 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: electors slash fake Elector's case, the prosecution of Jim Troopis 628 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: and other Trump attorneys who were trying to get a 629 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: slate of alternate electors seated and casting electoral votes in 630 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty just in case their challenge to Wisconsin's count 631 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: of the vote proved to be successful in the Wisconsin 632 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Ultimately it was not. The Democrat slate of 633 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: electors cast their ballots and those ballots elected Joe Biden 634 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: as President of the US. Would you believe that? On 635 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: the same day, Senator Ron Johnson, who is allegedly part 636 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: of this this fake elector scheme, wrote a letter to 637 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, saying, Hey, Madam Attorney General, 638 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: you really need to look at what's going on with 639 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: this fake elector's case in Wisconsin, because it certainly seems 640 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: that there is a whole lot of unethical, if not 641 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: outright unlawful behavior going on on that exact same day, 642 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: Democrats have again introduced a bill to make Wisconsin part 643 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: of the interstate National Popular Vote Compact. What this is 644 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: a group of left wing states that would pledge to 645 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: as soon as they hit two hundred and seventy electoral 646 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: votes there right now and I believe two hundred and nine, 647 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: as soon as they hit to seventy, they would award 648 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: their state's electoral votes to whichever candidate won the national 649 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: popular vote, regardless of whether that candidate actually won the state. 650 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: So the same Democrats, and Kelda Royce, who is a 651 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: candidate for governor, is one of the co sponsors of this, 652 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: as is Senator Bob Wirsch and Representatives Clinton Anderson and 653 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: Lee Snodgrass. Yes, for those new to the show, that 654 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: is actually her real name. The Snodgrass does in fact 655 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: taste like Snodgrass. If you don't get that reference, please 656 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor of this Christmas season and watch 657 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: the original Willie Welcome. The exact same Democrats who are 658 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: saying we should prosecute Republicans who present an alternate slate 659 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: of electors are now effectively saying we should accept an 660 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: alternate slate of electors based on who wins the election nationally, 661 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: even if our state votes differently, if Democrats didn't have 662 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: double standards, they would have no standards whatsoever. According to 663 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: these Dems, Americans and Wisconsin Nights want elected officials who 664 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: represent the will of the majority of voters. However, because 665 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: of the current United States presidential election system, that is 666 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: not always the case. By adopting the national popular vote, 667 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: Wisconsin affirms the principle that the candidate who receives the 668 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 1: most votes should become president. This would ensure that every 669 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: voter in every state matters, not just those in a 670 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: handful of battleground states. I can't even believe that people 671 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: are this stupid. Honestly, if Representative Snosberry or Kelda Helen 672 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Royce or anybody, I am offering you a full hour 673 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: on the Dan O'Donnell show to come on and have 674 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: me pepper you with questions about the constitutionality of this, 675 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: I truly cannot believe that anyone actually does think that 676 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: votes in California and New York don't matter, votes in 677 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: Texas don't matter, that the only votes that matter are 678 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. Really, Okay, well, let's prove that how about 679 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: every Democrat in California, and every Democrat in Illinois, and 680 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: every Democrat in New York simply doesn't vote. Would would 681 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: elections matter? Then here's the thing. In order to change 682 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: how we select our presidents, we kind of need to 683 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: amend the Constitution. In fact, the framers of the Constitution 684 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: three times three times rejected the possibility of doing a 685 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: direct national election. They wanted proportional representation in the House 686 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: for the same reason they wanted an electoral college system, 687 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: because they knew that big states by population would simply 688 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: dominate smaller states and impose their will on them. And 689 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: do you know what states actually had much bigger populations 690 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: back then, all of the Southern states, because of all 691 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: the slaves they had. This led to what's known as 692 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: the three fifths Compromise, which modern day liberals point to 693 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: as being the most racist thing on earth. It was 694 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: actually an effort to limit the power of the slave 695 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: holding states and thus limit the potential spread of slavery 696 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 1: by declaring that slaves were three fifths of a person 697 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: for purposes of electoral college apportionment. For purposes of congressional apportionment, 698 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: if you counted slaves as full people. The South would 699 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: just dominate. We would never be able to limit slavery. 700 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: There would have never been a Missouri compromise. It would 701 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: have just it's entirely possible that we would have had 702 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: slavery well into the nineteen hundreds if you didn't have 703 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: the three Fifths compromise. In any event, the founders understood 704 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: that this sort of direct democracy did not work in 705 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: a confederation of states. We are United States of America. 706 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 1: We are not simply America. In our system known as federalism, 707 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: the states, i e. The government that is more representative 708 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: to the people who live in those states has a 709 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of power, and that's by design. If we 710 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: would be dominated at the federal level by the biggest 711 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: population states California, New York, and just so we're clear, 712 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: this is what democrats want, we would lose our autonomy 713 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: as Wisconsinites. Here's the thing. This is grossly unconstitutional. What 714 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: it tries to do is work an end around on 715 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: the need for a constitute utional amendment. So what it 716 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: sets up is an interstate compact. It's even in the 717 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: name right, the interstate National Popular Vote Compact. Guess what 718 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 1: there is actually a clause in the Constitution, which I'm 719 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: taking a wild guest keld Royce and Representative Snosberry did 720 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,879 Speaker 1: not actually read, called the compact clause quote. No state shall, 721 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: without the consent of Congress, enter into any agreement or 722 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: compact with another state. The National Popular Vote Compact is 723 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: explicitly an interstate compact, something like seventeen states Washington, d c. 724 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: And they think they're going to be able to get 725 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: a couple more. They've signed a binding agreement that their 726 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: electoral votes are going to be awarded to the popular 727 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: vote winner, regardless of how their own citizens voted. Yeah, 728 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't need I could go on for a half 729 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: hour just listing off all of the times that the 730 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has upheld that Congress must consent to any 731 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 1: interstate compact. You cannot sign a binding agreement with another 732 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: state unless Congress signs off on it. Not only that 733 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: this absolutely usurps the Elections Clause, Article two, Section one, 734 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 1: Clause two. Each state shall appoint in such manner as 735 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: the legislature thereof may direct a number of electors. The 736 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: state legislatures therefore have plenary power. What that means is 737 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: absolute authority over how electors are appointed that the Supreme 738 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: Court just upheld this in the Wisconsin case Morphy Harper 739 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: in literally two years ago. Bush v. Gore was another 740 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: case that said, look, state legislators, they have the power 741 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: nobody else the legislature. The state legislature would effectively surrender 742 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: its expressly given constitutional authority to this again unconstitutional compact, 743 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: this consortium of other states. Now, what happens once the 744 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: compact is triggered, once they get to two hundred and 745 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: seventy electoral votes, If they ever do, my guess is 746 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 1: that they will not. The legislature of that state is powerless. 747 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: Let's say Wisconsin joins the Interstate Voting Compact. Let's say 748 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: Republicans lose everything. Next year, the Supreme Court goes five 749 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: to two, LIB they win the governor's mansion. We have 750 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: governor men deadbeat Barnes, we have a Democrat legislature, and 751 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: they join the Interstate Voting Compact. Okay, Let's say in 752 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: twenty thirty the voters of Wisconsin go, oh my god, 753 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: we've made a terrible mistake, and it's a Republican wave 754 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: the likes of which we have never seen before. Governor 755 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: Matt Walker Scott's Son sweeps into power and we want 756 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 1: to get out of the voting compact. You can't. You can't. 757 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: The legislature is powerless to change the method by which 758 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: electors are appointed. This compact binds future legislatures and that 759 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: is grossly unconstitutional. We didn't even get to the unconstitutionality 760 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: of trying to undo or write a constitutional amendment through 761 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 1: an interstate compact. What is it about Democrats who constantly 762 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: want to take away your voice effectively? You want to 763 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: talk about disenfranchising people. What happens if the election is 764 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: going to be decided by how California, New York, Illinois, Texas, Florida, 765 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know Pennsylvania vote, that's pretty much it. 766 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: I believe those are the six or seven most populous 767 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: states in America. That is going to be all that matters. Sure, 768 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is we get more attention probably every four years 769 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: than any other state because we are and have been 770 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: for several cycles now sort of the ultimate swing state, 771 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: just like Pennsylvania, just like Florida before us. But in 772 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: order to get around what Democrats don't like, and I'll 773 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: tell you why they are trying to revive this now 774 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 1: A kel de Roys is doing as much crazy liberal stuff. 775 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: I've got sources who forward me all of the insane 776 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: bills like this one that get circulated for co sponsorship. 777 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: By the way, if you would like to sign on, 778 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: you have until January second of twenty twenty six to 779 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: do so. To sign on for co sponsorship of the 780 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: revived National Voter Compact. She's just doing this because she 781 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: wants to get her liberal bonafides. She wants to show 782 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: to the Democrat gubernatorial voter base that she's just as 783 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 1: far to the left as man deadbeat or Sarah Rodriguez 784 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: or David Crowley or any of the other fifty nine 785 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: Democrats in this race who are polling better than she 786 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: is early on. But it's remarkable to me that Democrats 787 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: constantly want to monkey with the way we vote because 788 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: they don't believe that the way we vote elects them 789 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: often enough, But I'll tell you the real underlying reason 790 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: that they want to do this. It's also the underlying 791 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 1: reason that Biden was flying in illegals by the millions 792 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: and putting them in various states so they could get 793 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: welfare benefits defraud them like in Minnesota. It's because they're 794 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: all terrified of the twenty thirty redistricting. We'll discuss next 795 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Dan O'Donnell Show. Classical Conservatism Contemporary Style. Sorry, 796 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: I was shocker getting a story ready. Hopefully we'll be 797 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: able to do it on Monday, coming up later this hour. 798 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: The unsung hero of the Day. I think based on 799 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: the story that we led with this afternoon, you can 800 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: probably guess the pillars of the community that we're going 801 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: to highlight and try to help out anyway we can. 802 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: Democrats are putting out a bill that's going to go nowhere, 803 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: and folks, sometimes I'll get people who wonder, why, hey, Dan, Dan, 804 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: why do you focus on these bills? Democrats that have 805 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: a minority in both the state Senate and State Assembly 806 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: put out a bill today to try to get Wisconsin 807 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: to join this interstate voting Compact, where we would award 808 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's electoral votes not to the candidate in presidential elections 809 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: who actually wins Wisconsin, but the candidate who wins the 810 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: national popular vote. It's not just stupid, it's also grossly unconstitutional. 811 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: And in any event, people ask me, Dan, Dan, why 812 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: do you focus on this? Why do you focus on 813 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: this it's never going to become law, right, Robin Voss 814 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: is just he's never going to put it up for 815 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: a vote. I actually believe that Voss should put all 816 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: of this crazy crap up for a vote, and so 817 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: too should the state Senate. So people, so Democrats are 818 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: forced to go on the record with this stuff, folks. 819 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,439 Speaker 1: I highlight this because I am telling you that this 820 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: is the sort of stuff that does become law when 821 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: Democrats take over. We are very very close to turning 822 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: into Illinois or Minnesota if this election does not go 823 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: the way we want it to bye by state Senate. 824 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: The State Assembly might be able to hang on, but 825 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360 Speaker 1: there would be a five to two majority on the 826 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: state Supreme Court, meaning we'd get liberal decisions. Anything any 827 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: conservative governor or legislature turns out for the next decade 828 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: plus would be struck down as unconstitutional by the four 829 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: hags on the Supreme Court. Yes, I absolutely said hags. Yes, 830 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: I absolutely mean it. Not because of their appearance, but 831 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: because if their just inability or unwillingness to actually behave 832 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 1: as real judges. They're hacks. They're a way we can 833 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: combine hack and hack hag hackga, that's what they are 834 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: they just strike it down. So the reason that we 835 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: get this interstate Voter Compact now, it's actually the same 836 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: reason that Democrats have been importing illegal aliens like crazy 837 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: for the last five years, because they know they know 838 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: what the twenty thirty census is going to bring. In fact, 839 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: there was a big, big problem with the twenty twenty census. 840 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: This is why there is this push to redistrict in 841 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: the state of Texas, which of course kicked off the 842 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: great redistricting Wars. Did you see the Indiana State Senate 843 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: struck down that state's effort to redistrict to draw a 844 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: more Republican friendly map. California is obviously going to do it. 845 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: New York just did it, but we had a national 846 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: freak out by lefties when Texas did it. Texas actually 847 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: got screwed by the twenty twenty census. The Census Bureau 848 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 1: admitted they screwed up because of COVID They dramatically undercounted 849 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: black and Hispanic people in southern states. Texas was only 850 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: a handful of people away from being awarded another congressman, 851 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: thus another electoral vote. Had the census been done correctly, 852 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Texas absolutely would have one more electoral vote. I believe 853 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,440 Speaker 1: it would have come out of New York and they 854 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: very likely would have had two more electoral votes well 855 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 1: in twenty thirty because there has been so much population 856 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:50,919 Speaker 1: shift away from horribly run liberal states like California, New York, 857 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and Illinois, all of those states would actually lose so 858 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: many electoral votes. Wisconsin is in very much, very grave 859 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: danger of losing an electoral vote. We would lose a 860 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: congressional representative under current projections, and all of those electoral 861 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: votes would go to conservative states. Florida would gain like 862 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: four electoral votes, Texas would gain three or four, Georgia 863 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: gains one, Utah gains one, Wyoming games one. And what 864 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: this would mean is that the twenty thirty two Republican 865 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: presidential candidate would be able to win the presidential election 866 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: without winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. All they would have 867 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 1: to do is sweep the Sun Belt, hold on to 868 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Texas and Florida and all of the states that President 869 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Trump won. They could lose the so called Rust Belt 870 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: or Blue Wall, and it wouldn't matter. So Democrats have 871 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: been panicking about this, and this is one of the 872 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: big reasons. Didn't it seem weird that the Biden administration 873 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: was instead of just keeping all of these illegals who 874 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 1: were flooding over the border in twenty twenty one through 875 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five in the Southern States, in Texas, in California, 876 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: in Arizona, in the places where they were actually coming 877 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: across the port. Why were we flying them all around 878 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: the country. Why are there random Haitians in Springfield, Ohio, who, 879 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: according to President Trump, were eating the cats and eating 880 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: the dogs. Why are their random Nicaraguins in is it Whitewater? 881 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,959 Speaker 1: Is that where there's a massive population of illegal yet 882 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 1: paroled is it Nicaraguins or some Central South America? There's 883 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: two thousand of them in a sleepy, little college town. Why. Well, 884 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: the reason is to try to make up for some 885 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: of these population shifts. And while this is great news 886 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: for national politics, it's probably pretty bad right now in 887 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: the short term for Wisconsin and for states like ours 888 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: who are desperately trying to hold on to some semblance 889 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 1: of sanity. But as Conservatives and Republicans as they're hitting 890 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: retirement age, it's going to be what a high of 891 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 1: eight degrees tomorrow with a windshill of minus twenty. My goodness, 892 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: if I was retired, I wouldn't want to be out 893 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: in that. I'd be down in Naples. And there are 894 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot of people who said, yeah, we're we're out. 895 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: And because there's no state income tax in Florida, well 896 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: why would you continue to pay state income taxes in 897 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Wisconsin or in New York or in California. You're making like, 898 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: for example, Yannis, we're all in agreement. This story really 899 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: popped while I was at my brother's wedding in Mexico 900 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: last week. We're all sort of in agreement that Jannis 901 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: is gone. 902 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Right. 903 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: Nobody really wants to admit it, but he's absolutely gone. 904 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: He wants to force a trade to New York. He 905 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: wants to play on the Knicks. I don't think they 906 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: have the assets to get Jiannis, but we'll see. He 907 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: would lose millions of dollars because New York's state tax 908 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 1: rate is so much higher than Wisconsin's, and because he's 909 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: playing so many games in New York State, he's getting 910 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: so much income in New York State, it would be 911 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: taxed at a much higher rate. In fact, when Lebron 912 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: James made the decision, remember that and he went. He 913 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 1: took his talents to South Beach. Was that in twenty 914 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 1: nine to twenty ten? Somewhere there he said, We're not 915 01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: going to win one championship, not two, not three, not four, 916 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: not five. He just kept counting like he won two. 917 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Good work, bron He made tons of money because Florida 918 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a state income tax, so he was paying 919 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: state income taxes. In Ohio, he no longer had to 920 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: pay state income taxes. And when you're making tens of 921 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: millions of dollars every single year, that amount adds up. Well, 922 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: imagine if you go from Wisconsin to Florida in order 923 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: to not pay state income taxes, you also have to 924 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,480 Speaker 1: no longer vote in that state. So that's a bit 925 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: of a prophet. Speaking of Minnesota, Governor Tim Walls held 926 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: a hilariously awful press conference on the Somali fraud scam. 927 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 1: We'll get into that next, folks. We have no idea 928 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the bullet we dodged last November. Not only would Kamala 929 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: Harris have been our president, we would have had to 930 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: have listened to the bumbling buffoon Tim Walls as VP. 931 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 1: His state is engulfed in a massive scandal Somali illegals 932 01:06:53,600 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: or those who have been given refugee status under questionable circumstances, 933 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: have been convicted in truly huge numbers of defrauding an 934 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: estimated eight hundred and twenty million to one billion dollars 935 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 1: in social services. The biggest one was Feeding our Future. 936 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: Seventy eight Code defendants who have been charged, almost all 937 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: of them Somali. Fifty six of them have pleaded guilty. 938 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Seven have been found guilty at trial. They stole about 939 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars using fake meal sites shell companies 940 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 1: that were claiming to feed thousands of children who guess what, 941 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: did not exist. They stole an additional three hundred two 942 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: million from the Housing Stabilization Service using again fake companies, 943 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: billing Medicaid for undelivered housing, and up to two hundred 944 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars for autism therapy fraud, falsifying diagnoses 945 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and billing for phantom sessions to kids who most certainly 946 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: did not have autism. They targeted Somali families and gave 947 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: the parents kickbacks for fraudulently claiming that their kids had autism. 948 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: They also were allegedly funding this money. This ill gotten 949 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: money back to Africa to al Shabab, an affiliate of 950 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 1: al Qaeda. The US Treasury is currently investigating that. So far, 951 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: I have not actually seen any real concrete evidence that 952 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: there was a direct payment as a result of this 953 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:48,639 Speaker 1: fraud going to al Shabab. Well, finally, Old Tampon Tim 954 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: himself was holding a press conference today and he was 955 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 1: actually asked about the Somali welfare fraud. It went about 956 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: as well as you would expect. This is an honest 957 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 1: to goodness answer from an allegedly serious politician. 958 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,719 Speaker 2: I think it's really important for us to note again, 959 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 2: this is eighty people or so that have been convicted 960 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 2: in this, maybe some more in that out of a 961 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,800 Speaker 2: broader ring medicate. Fraud will stretch across all racial demographics, 962 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 2: all ethnic groups. So I think it's really important for 963 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 2: us to note each each community's got this in their 964 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,680 Speaker 2: own Mitch. But to blame them and say that they 965 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 2: should have been responsible for stopping it, I think that's 966 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,759 Speaker 2: a pretty hard reach. I think we continue to educate 967 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 2: folks about why they shouldn't commit crimes. You would hope 968 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 2: that it's being taught both at home and at schools 969 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 2: and in our society, But no I think this idea 970 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,200 Speaker 2: that the Somali communities to blame for this because they 971 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 2: didn't do more. I think that's how we got into this. 972 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, he thinks that we should be teaching people not 973 01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: to commit billion dollar welfare fraud. He hopes that they 974 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: would teach that at home. Now. A reporter actually asked, hey, 975 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: do you actually think that the Somali community maybe should be, 976 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,799 Speaker 1: you know, taking more responsibility because all the Somali leaders 977 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis are saying, is hey, it's racist to call 978 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,599 Speaker 1: out our billion dollar fraud. Do you think this reporter 979 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: asked that the Somali community should be taking more ownership 980 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,839 Speaker 1: of this, and I honestly had to do a double 981 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: take while I was listening to Tim Walls's answer because 982 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: I could not believe what he was saying. 983 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,719 Speaker 5: Do you want to hear more from members of leaders 984 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 5: from the small community to say we need to hold 985 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,600 Speaker 5: our we need to look at ourselves, we need to 986 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 5: hold our home Leahber's poddle because a little bit. 987 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 1: The damage that this is done to our fear? 988 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 5: What do you want to hear more from the sad 989 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 5: im just saying don't blame us. Do you want to 990 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 5: see more ownership and oversight from. 991 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 2: A look, it's not law abiding citizens. If that were 992 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 2: the case, there's a lot of white men should be 993 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 2: hold holding a lot of white men accountable for the 994 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 2: crimes that they have committed. I think for the community 995 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 2: to maybe educate their population, because I think what you're 996 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 2: seeing here is there are secondary victims in this, that 997 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 2: there's dividers inside the community that are then victimizing the 998 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 2: com creutity himself by signing them up. Because when we're 999 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 2: going to some of these people, they're like, I had 1000 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 2: no idea I was in this program. So I think 1001 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 2: it's it's asking us then, you know, for every crime, 1002 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 2: which of course the majority being committed by white men, 1003 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 2: asking us to do more about that. I think it's 1004 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 2: crime in general. 1005 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yes, all the white men committing billion dollar 1006 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: welfare fraud. This comes on the heels of him saying 1007 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago that yes, you're going to 1008 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: have fraud. It's not necessarily a Somali thing. You're going 1009 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: to have fraud in states like Oris which have insanely 1010 01:11:52,520 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: generous welfare benefits. Governor Walls, maybe maybe you should maybe 1011 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: not have overly generous welfare benefits and double check to 1012 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: make sure that there is no fraud. Meanwhile, here in Wisconsin, 1013 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: it seems an awful lot like Governor Evers and his 1014 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,839 Speaker 1: administration doesn't want to find out if there's any fraud. 1015 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,640 Speaker 1: The federal government has been trying to do audits in 1016 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Wisconsin to try to figure out, Hey, are we paying 1017 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: out phantom medicaid or are we paying out phantom welfare benefits. 1018 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: The Ebers administration is not allowing any access to their data. 1019 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Why why there could be a fraud double the size 1020 01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: of Minnesota's Somali welfare fraud. We'd have no idea because 1021 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 1: the people in charge of our state want to protect 1022 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 1: those committing the fraud out of some insane belief in 1023 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 1: political correctness. Tim Walls, well, we got to have the 1024 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: white guys. We don't ask white guys to police them. 1025 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Do you give me a break? These are people who 1026 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,759 Speaker 1: we are taking from a third world country. He set himself. 1027 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: He's like, well, I sure hope that they teach them 1028 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: in Somali households not to steal. I sure hope they 1029 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 1: teach them not to commit fraud. I sure hope they're 1030 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 1: teaching that at the home. Do you think that might 1031 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: be any sort of evidence that maybe, just maybe these 1032 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: are people who don't fully believe in the American slash 1033 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Western values of you know, don't steal and don't commit 1034 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: massive welfare fraud. He's bending over backwards to try to 1035 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: grovel for the approval of Somali immigrants while ignoring flat 1036 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: out there is a concerted effort within that community to 1037 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 1: defraud the system. I firmly believe we need a complete 1038 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: and total, thorough audit of Wisconsin's welfare system to make 1039 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:10,640 Speaker 1: sure there's not similar fraud going on here. It is 1040 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 1: the Dan O'Donnell show. Merry Christmas. Time now to name 1041 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: the unsung hero of the day. Today's unsung heroes of 1042 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: the day are the owners and staff at the Bass 1043 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 1: Bay Brew House, who for a decade have been pillars 1044 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,800 Speaker 1: of the Muskego community and quite frankly ran one of 1045 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 1: my absolute favorite restaurants. Well, bassbe Brew House burned to 1046 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: the ground today. The cause of the fire is still 1047 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,440 Speaker 1: under investigation. And these are people that just before Christmas 1048 01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: have lost a whole lot legacy, just a longtime family, business, jobs, careers, 1049 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 1: and I think everyone needs to help them pick up 1050 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,839 Speaker 1: the pieces and rebuild for not just the Muskigo community, 1051 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: but for all of southeast Wisconsin. The team over at 1052 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: bass Ba Brewhouse your unsung heroes of the day. We'll 1053 01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: be back with Lieutenant Governor candidate Will Martin right here 1054 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 1: on the Dan oh Donald Show. Welcome back, final hour 1055 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 1: of this busy broadcast week here on the Dan o'donalds 1056 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 1: shew Boyd. Has been good to be back this week. 1057 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it went as fast for you 1058 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,040 Speaker 1: as it did for me. I was gone half of 1059 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 1: the week last week at my brother's wedding. Before that, obviously, 1060 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: it was Thanksgiving, and I thought, oh, man, since I 1061 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 1: haven't really been working all that much as much as 1062 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I've wanted to, I thought, man, this week is just 1063 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: going to drag. I cannot believe we have already reached 1064 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 1: the end of it. Most of you are already hunkering 1065 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 1: down for a long winter's nap as it's not going 1066 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: to get up above minus fifteen for a wind chill 1067 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: until Monday morning. Do we know, Producer Eric, is the 1068 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: wind chill going to be super low on Monday? I'm 1069 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: sure my kids are. It's supposed to be breezy, but 1070 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the wind chill going to be you know, 1071 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: twenty below zero. That's usually the magic number. It's like 1072 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 1: twenty five below zero. If the wind chill hits yeah, 1073 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: that's that's not going to be enough to cancel school. 1074 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 1: The kids just head off for a full week for Thanksgiving. 1075 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 1: They're getting off two full weeks for Christmas. And every 1076 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 1: time there's snow in the forecaster, it gets really coold. 1077 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: I hear, do you think we're gonna have school? 1078 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 3: Oh? 1079 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Man, I wish. I wish when we got the snowfall 1080 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,719 Speaker 1: right after Thanksgiving, I go, man, I wish this would 1081 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 1: have filled. I wish this would have filled on Monday, 1082 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: because we wouldn't have dged. You were just off for 1083 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: a week. How much more school could you possibly miss? 1084 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Coming up in just a second, Will Martin discusses his 1085 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 1: energy policy. I'd love having Will on. He's a candidate 1086 01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 1: for lieutenant governor. He's actually got a fantastic policy. If 1087 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: you know anything about this show, it's that we get 1088 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 1: down into the nitty gritty about policy and politics. And 1089 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,960 Speaker 1: that's why I so enjoy talking to him. If you 1090 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 1: want to join us four one, four seven, nine, nine 1091 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 1: eleven thirty, that is our ventos dot com talk and 1092 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: text line. You can also reach us toll free one 1093 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 1: eight one hundred eight three eight nine four seven six 1094 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:35,599 Speaker 1: email me directly DD at iHeartMedia dot com. A reminder, 1095 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: this is the final weekend. We extended our deadline to 1096 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: take submissions for the Dan O'Donnell show Family Christmas Special, 1097 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,040 Speaker 1: and during commercial breaks, I have actually been going through 1098 01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 1: my junk email folder. I actually found like three different submissions, 1099 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,679 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my goodness, because we have actually 1100 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,680 Speaker 1: there the era ben ones that end up in my 1101 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: junk filter just for whatever reason and I don't see them. 1102 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 1: And there was one time a year or two ago 1103 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: we actually had a mother frantically emailing me saying, Dan, 1104 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 1: I listened to the special and I didn't hear my son. 1105 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: What happened. I'm like, oh my goodness. So he had 1106 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 1: to kind of edit him into the podcast. Please do 1107 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 1: if you submitted you did not hear from me, If 1108 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 1: you did not hear back, send it again because it 1109 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: probably meant it went to my spam filter. So you 1110 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 1: do have a couple of days left. And if it 1111 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,640 Speaker 1: was so sweet, I had a little girl email me 1112 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: it was stuck in my spam filter, and she said, 1113 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: mister O'Donnell. Mi Nana said that I should email you, 1114 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 1: but my song is two and a half minutes. Is 1115 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 1: there any way you'll take it if you don't, I 1116 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 1: totally understand, I said Paisley, absolutely, I will take here 1117 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes. So if we have to 1118 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 1: edit it down, we do it. You'll never even be 1119 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: able to the average listener will never even be able 1120 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: to tell that I edited. We have gotten very very 1121 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 1: good at this in all the years we have done 1122 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,759 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show. All Right, I am so happy 1123 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,760 Speaker 1: to welcome to the Dan o'donald Show once again. He is, 1124 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 1: and I genuinely mean this, one of the smartest people 1125 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,719 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin when it comes to policy. He is running 1126 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: once again for lieutenant governor after running for the first 1127 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty two, losing out in the Republican primary, 1128 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: although this time I do believe that he is going 1129 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: to be incredibly successful. He is Will Martin Will welcome 1130 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 1: to the Dan o'donald Show. Great, haven't you here? 1131 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks so much for having me in. Greetings from 1132 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,880 Speaker 3: the road, because I'm out campaigning hard. 1133 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, where are you right now? I could tell when 1134 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,559 Speaker 1: we talked very briefly off the air, that you were 1135 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 1: in the car where you head. 1136 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on my way. I'm on my way to Nina. 1137 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,559 Speaker 1: You're on your way to Nina. Excellent. 1138 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I like that absolutely. 1139 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing there? Is it like a Republican 1140 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: Party event something like that. 1141 01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 3: It's exactly what it is, excellently what it is. 1142 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:16,679 Speaker 1: Excellent. 1143 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 3: Making sure we get out and talk to every part 1144 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 3: of the Republican Party gets them excited because twenty twenty 1145 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 3: six is not only the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 1146 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 3: of American independence, it is going to be the renewal 1147 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 3: of the Republican Party in Wisconsin. We're going to win 1148 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 3: in November. 1149 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: I certainly do believe that, you know, do you think 1150 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 1: as a lot of people do that just the cyclical 1151 01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: nature of American politics means that Republicans are going to 1152 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: have a much more difficult time this election cycle because 1153 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,000 Speaker 1: obviously we control the White House, and usually it's the 1154 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: out party, the party that doesn't control the White House 1155 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 1: that does very very well, especially in Wisconsin in those midterms. 1156 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 3: I think we're always up against California money, and I 1157 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 3: think they're always dynamic. Yeah, but the issue is going 1158 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 3: to be about the character and in the strength of 1159 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,799 Speaker 3: the candidates we put forward. And I'll take our candidate 1160 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,599 Speaker 3: every day over Mandela Barnes. 1161 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 1: No kidding, all right? Level with me? Will are you 1162 01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 1: secretly hoping he wins the nomination? 1163 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:22,799 Speaker 3: I'm not secretly hoping. 1164 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't. It is like I swear, 1165 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,880 Speaker 1: it is like Christmas came early right after Thanksgiving. I'm 1166 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 1: like boom that Monday morning. He could have waited until 1167 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,360 Speaker 1: I was in Mexico City. No, I have gotten two 1168 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,640 Speaker 1: full weeks of joy out of Mandela Barnes being a 1169 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,320 Speaker 1: gubernatorial candidate. What does it say to you that the 1170 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 1: party really, really really seems like it does not want 1171 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 1: him running for governor. 1172 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Well, and good for them that they they know the 1173 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 3: problems that they're going to have and the greatest hits 1174 01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 3: are going to come up all over again. And I 1175 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 3: think for us, we've got to take it seriously because 1176 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 3: all of his issues came within twenty six thousand votes 1177 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 3: winning the US Senate seats. So I think we've got 1178 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 3: to all be united on our side. We cannot take 1179 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 3: this as a cakewalk, because it certainly will not be. No, 1180 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 3: and he's going to bring as much money as the 1181 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:23,519 Speaker 3: barrels will load from California, So we have to be 1182 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 3: really wrench for the fact that all that California money 1183 01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,799 Speaker 3: can make a pig into a stallion. If we believe 1184 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,480 Speaker 3: the commercials. 1185 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Will Martin candidate for a lieutenant governor. Sir, you've got 1186 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: an everything on the table, all of the above energy 1187 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,640 Speaker 1: policy approach. I was sort of reading through it in 1188 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: preparation for this interview. Why don't you give our listeners 1189 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,400 Speaker 1: just a little highlight of what you think Wisconsin can 1190 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,800 Speaker 1: do energy wise, because I'll tell you what one of 1191 01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 1: the big debates right now is. First, please do give 1192 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of an overview of your plan, but 1193 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,000 Speaker 1: I do want to get into the issue of which 1194 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 1: is big, big controversial stuff data centers. So the overview 1195 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: of your energy plans, sir. 1196 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. Here even if we never opened a 1197 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 3: data center in the state of Wisconsin ever, right now today, 1198 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,759 Speaker 3: we're actually so dependent on other states and Canada because 1199 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 3: we actually consume nearly six times as much energy as 1200 01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 3: we produce in the state of Wisconsin. We always talk 1201 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 3: about America's need for energy independence. Well, Wisconsin got to 1202 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 3: produce more if we're going to have more independence and 1203 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,759 Speaker 3: greater control over what happens to us in the future. 1204 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 3: So the reason that we're putting us forward is again 1205 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 3: we do not produce enough energy regardless of data centers 1206 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 3: coming in the state. We've got to get control over 1207 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 3: what we're doing. And what we're coming forward to say 1208 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 3: is we need in all of the above strategy. You 1209 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 3: saw today, it was a beautiful day. I just don't 1210 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 3: know how much solar we actually produced in Wisconsin today. 1211 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 3: So our current governor and his in his policy plan 1212 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 3: was all about renewables, which you now are intermittent at best. 1213 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 3: We need actual sources that are going to give us 1214 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 3: a continuous twenty four seven three sixty five stream of 1215 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 3: energy to viuel the future in the state. I'm actually 1216 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 3: calling on getting more small modular reactors SMRs that we 1217 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 3: can build in the state as well as part of 1218 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 3: that mix. You know today. These are highly efficient, very 1219 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:43,719 Speaker 3: safe systems. And here's a statistic that I think will 1220 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 3: help your listeners. Just two point two pounds of uranium 1221 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 3: produces the same energy as nearly six million pounds of coals. 1222 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:54,639 Speaker 1: Wow. 1223 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 3: So this this nonsense, get right? So to this nonsense 1224 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 3: of hey, we are ch choose between a clean environment, 1225 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 3: clean water, clean clean air, et cetera, or energy production 1226 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 3: is a false it's a false equipalance. Here we can 1227 01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 3: actually produce energy at higher level and still have an 1228 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 3: incredibly clean environment as well. 1229 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 1: I love the idea of small scale nuclear. I believe 1230 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 1: it's the future. I think there is a tremendous not 1231 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 1: only humanity changing potential in it, there is a tremendous 1232 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:41,559 Speaker 1: investment potential in this. I still think Chernobyl and Three 1233 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Mile Island did more damage to American energy policy than 1234 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 1: anything perhaps in our history. Nuclear reactors nuclear power is 1235 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 1: practically a miracle. And the fact that we have decided 1236 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 1: that it is this incredibly dangerous thing when it really 1237 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,920 Speaker 1: is not right, it's really I think it's set us 1238 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 1: back decades. I really do it is. 1239 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,920 Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing is if we start to educate 1240 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 3: people about what it really is like today, all the 1241 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 3: progress that's have made, and again we're not saying don't 1242 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,920 Speaker 3: use all We literally are saying, use every source we 1243 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,680 Speaker 3: can to greet Wisconsin's future. But in that here's the 1244 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:30,559 Speaker 3: thing that happens. We create than family supporting jobs as 1245 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 3: a result, these are jobs that cannot be automated when 1246 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 3: we're talking about energy production and creating expanding the grid 1247 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,759 Speaker 3: that's required for us. And then you mentioned data centers. 1248 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 3: Here's the thing I think of data centers at a 1249 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 3: national security issue. We want our data to be closer. 1250 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 3: I don't think we want China owning all our data, 1251 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 3: and so we're gonna want now. I believe in freedom 1252 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,680 Speaker 3: and I believe in choice, and so communities should make 1253 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 3: the decison for themselves whether they want it or not. 1254 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 3: But I do believe we want our data closer to home. 1255 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,240 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this much. I think for these 1256 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,600 Speaker 3: companies that are spending a billion dollars on creating a 1257 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,400 Speaker 3: new data center, I think they should also, as part 1258 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,160 Speaker 3: of the bargain, put one of those SMRs, one of 1259 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 3: those small modular nuclear reactors right there to power themselves 1260 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 3: and anything additional they go ahead and sell back to 1261 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 3: the rest of us to help generate more energy for 1262 01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 3: the state. That way, we're neutral to getting data centers 1263 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 3: into Wisconsin, and they're not taking from us. They're actually 1264 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 3: producing more for us. 1265 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 1: And in fact, what's actually happening in other states is 1266 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 1: the excess power that is being produced by these data 1267 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:50,120 Speaker 1: centers oftentimes is just given back to the people as 1268 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: sort of a condition of the data centers going up. 1269 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not like these are small companies that are putting 1270 01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: this And it's not like Joe's Data Center Incorporated. We're 1271 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 1: talking METOW, We're talking Amazon, We're talking Microsoft, we're talking Apple. 1272 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,719 Speaker 1: These are the biggest companies on planet Earth. 1273 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:07,719 Speaker 2: Uh. 1274 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 1: And and but you. 1275 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,519 Speaker 3: Know what's holding us back, though, Dan, And you're making 1276 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 3: the point exactly what's holding us back is leadership. Yeah, 1277 01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 3: core leadership, but giving the people that was not an 1278 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 3: idea that you can either have one or the other. 1279 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,960 Speaker 3: You can't have both. Yeah, both, we can do it 1280 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 3: under better leadership. And the Republicans are going to put 1281 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 3: forward better leadership next year. 1282 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of fear of these 1283 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 1: data centers. This this idea that somehow they're just going 1284 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: to be plopped down in the middle of Fred's family farm. Uh, 1285 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 1: that that just isn't true. I mean, it just it 1286 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 1: seems like the messaging coming from the Evers administration, because 1287 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 1: I think they naturally have to cater to their anti capitalist, 1288 01:28:54,840 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 1: anti big business crazy base. You don't have effective message 1289 01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: coming from the top of the state saying, hey, look, 1290 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 1: these data centers are largely going in industrial parks. These 1291 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 1: are largely going to be independent, separate from the electrical grid. 1292 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: They're not going to drain Lake Michigan. Most of them 1293 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 1: don't even use water based cooling systems anymore, so they 1294 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 1: don't have a need for tremendous amounts of water. And 1295 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:29,839 Speaker 1: if we as a state with a whole bunch of flat, 1296 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 1: easily developable land with access to a lot of fresh water, 1297 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: if we do need it, we have the potential to 1298 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,600 Speaker 1: just so dramatically increase our tax base. And it's like 1299 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 1: people I think are short sighted. They can't quite see 1300 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,960 Speaker 1: the economies that build up around these things. If all 1301 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,919 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Amazon has a massive fulfillment center in Kenosha, 1302 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 1: it's got a massive data center, don't you think it's 1303 01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,240 Speaker 1: going to want to build up more operations in that 1304 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 1: area to support the existing infrastructure it's got there. And 1305 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: I just don't think we're getting that message from the 1306 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Evers administration for I think sadly obviously far left reasons. 1307 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 3: Well, again it's it's poor leadership, right, and so again 1308 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 3: giving people the opportunity to understand I don't blame the 1309 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,439 Speaker 3: people for a misunderstanding the situation. I blame the Evers 1310 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,519 Speaker 3: administration for not explaining it. Yeah, and not giving them 1311 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 3: the information to show them the future. We need this 1312 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,640 Speaker 3: in Wisconsin because we need We're great at manufacturing. The 1313 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 3: next generation of manufacturing is going to be so much 1314 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,840 Speaker 3: more automated. And instead of having that automation run over 1315 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,040 Speaker 3: the people in Wisconsin, our workers. If this is an 1316 01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 3: opportunity to retool our workers and train them for the 1317 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,080 Speaker 3: jobs of the future that are going to pay over 1318 01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,439 Speaker 3: six figures, yep. Our people should be in the position 1319 01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 3: to take those jobs and run with them. I'll put 1320 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 3: up the Wisconsin people against any other workforce any time, 1321 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,680 Speaker 3: but we've got to give them the right information and 1322 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 3: the tools to do so. 1323 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 1: Amen to that. He is Will Martin. He is running 1324 01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:15,280 Speaker 1: for a Lieutenant governor of Wisconsin as a Republican vote. 1325 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: Will Martin dot Com is the website. Learn more about 1326 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,880 Speaker 1: his all of the above energy plan support his candidacy. 1327 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Learned more about him Will. I always do enjoy talking 1328 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 1: policy with you. Let's do it again soon, huh, And hey, 1329 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 1: if I don't talk to you, have a very merry Christmas. 1330 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,559 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you and God bless you and all 1331 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 3: your listeners. 1332 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, sir, Will Martin, Lieutenant Governor candidate on 1333 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,760 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show. I want to follow up on 1334 01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,160 Speaker 1: a couple of the points that Will made. We'll have 1335 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,880 Speaker 1: how Bizarre coming up at about five point thirty ish. 1336 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:54,280 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, we'll be right back. Will Martin, our guest 1337 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: on the Dan o'donald Show, talking about his energy policy 1338 01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,720 Speaker 1: and his belief in small scale nuclear reactors, which I 1339 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,040 Speaker 1: truly do believe are the future of powering not just 1340 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:12,480 Speaker 1: data centers across the country, but powering us, powering everything. 1341 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:16,120 Speaker 1: There is going to be such a dramatic increase in 1342 01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 1: the need for power, in the need for electricity, in 1343 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:24,880 Speaker 1: the need for just raw computing power. Did you see 1344 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,680 Speaker 1: they finally made it official. Everybody kind of understood that 1345 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 1: the time Person of the Year was either going to 1346 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 1: be AI or the people who make AI. Apparently the 1347 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 1: cover leaked last night. It is the architects of AI, 1348 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: the people who are developing the artificial intelligence systems. The 1349 01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 1: raw computing power needed for that. You need a tremendous 1350 01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:56,200 Speaker 1: amount of data. That data needs a tremendous amount of 1351 01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:00,479 Speaker 1: electricity to power it. Not only are you getting that 1352 01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,720 Speaker 1: on the AI side, you also have there is a 1353 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:08,880 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of power needed to mine cryptocurrency or to 1354 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 1: put things on the block chain. I just so I 1355 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,320 Speaker 1: forgot who it was. It might have been Altman, it 1356 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 1: was somebody said now I think with Jack Dorsey, the 1357 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,240 Speaker 1: former CEO of Twitter, said that bitcoin could potentially be 1358 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,560 Speaker 1: worth a million dollars by twenty thirty a single bitcoin. 1359 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Right now it's hovering around ninety thousand. I mean, there 1360 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 1: have been wild price fluctuations in the price of bitcoin 1361 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 1: and other cryptocurrencies ethereum and so forth. In order to 1362 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 1: keep up with the demand. We're simply not going to 1363 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:49,080 Speaker 1: be able to refine enough oil. We're simply not going 1364 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 1: to be able to burn enough coal. We're simply not 1365 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: going to be able to get enough natural gas. Now, 1366 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't doubt human ingenuity. I'm just talking about the 1367 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,400 Speaker 1: massive scale of what we're seeing. And not only that, 1368 01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about the potential, very very quickly of a 1369 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:12,120 Speaker 1: huge revolution in how we actually get around folks. Self 1370 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: driving cars are coming quicker than we think already. You 1371 01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 1: are seeing self driving trucks, you are seeing self driving 1372 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 1: ubers in Austin, Texas with Google's Waim. Robo taxi by 1373 01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 1: Tesla is supposedly coming online at some point soon, and 1374 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,599 Speaker 1: Elon Musk, who's sort of notorious for promising that full 1375 01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 1: self driving technology in which you don't need to have 1376 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 1: your hands on the steering wheel, is just around the corner. 1377 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 1: As soon as that happens, folks, I'm telling you, I've 1378 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,200 Speaker 1: been talking on the air about I'm done. I'm done driving. 1379 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't particularly care for it. I think a machine 1380 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,200 Speaker 1: would probably do a better job than me. I want 1381 01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 1: to sit on my phone and do work while i 1382 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm being driven around. Yes, I am really that bougie, 1383 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,599 Speaker 1: and I'm willing to pay for it, and I'm willing 1384 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,000 Speaker 1: to bet I'm not the only one. If there's anything, 1385 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:14,679 Speaker 1: Remember Joe Biden had that ridiculous electric vehicle mandate. I said, Okay, 1386 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,519 Speaker 1: every automaker by a certain date needs to go all electric. 1387 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:26,479 Speaker 1: Well innovation and wholesale societal civilizational change doesn't happen because 1388 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 1: government forces it. It happens because there is a technological 1389 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:36,920 Speaker 1: breakthrough that is so life changing that everybody adopts the 1390 01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,400 Speaker 1: last big life changing technology that we had in the world. 1391 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what it was? It was about I'd 1392 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:50,720 Speaker 1: say about fifteen years ago. It sort of became ubiquitous. Yeah, smartphones. Smartphones. 1393 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:56,600 Speaker 1: Everybody by about twenty ten, twenty eleven was having smartphones. 1394 01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: By twenty fifteen, certainly, I think the overwhelming majority of 1395 01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 1: people in the developed world, not just in the United States, 1396 01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 1: had smartphones, had an iPhone, had a Google phone. They 1397 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:17,280 Speaker 1: became necessities for billions of people on planet Earth. Did 1398 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:22,639 Speaker 1: George W. Bush or Barack Obama say, well, by twenty fifteen, 1399 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,080 Speaker 1: every human being must have a smartphone? No human beings 1400 01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,559 Speaker 1: bought smartphones. It's going to be the same thing with 1401 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 1: electric vehicles in that when we have true full self 1402 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 1: driving autonomous vehicle approval, and that's going to be a 1403 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:45,800 Speaker 1: big one. That is going to be an absolute big one. 1404 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,840 Speaker 1: The lawyers are going to be involved very heavily in this. 1405 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 1: What happens when a self driving vehicle crashes and kills 1406 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,120 Speaker 1: the guy who is in the backseat in a single 1407 01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,799 Speaker 1: vehicle crash, Well, you can't blame human error right now, 1408 01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 1: if you're on full self driving in a Tesla, your 1409 01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: hands need to be on the wheel. Tesla can say, well, yes, 1410 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 1: the full self driving technology failed, but the driver he 1411 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,160 Speaker 1: aired by not hitting the brakes quick enough or swerving 1412 01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,200 Speaker 1: out of the way of that cat quick enough, or 1413 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 1: whatever it is. If the driver has absolutely no role 1414 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,479 Speaker 1: in the driving of the vehicle, well then it's one 1415 01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:30,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent on the car and thus the manufacturer. Once 1416 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,680 Speaker 1: that happens, there is going to be it's Katie bar 1417 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:40,800 Speaker 1: the door. Once full self driving and electric vehicles become ubiquitous, 1418 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 1: we are going to have such a massive demand for 1419 01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,760 Speaker 1: electricity that there's just no way current power grids are 1420 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,760 Speaker 1: going to be able to support it. And this is 1421 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:57,640 Speaker 1: why small scale nuclear technology, which is I believe the 1422 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,280 Speaker 1: potential for a meltdown and that sort of thing is 1423 01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 1: much much smaller. We're not going to see five million, sure, nobles. 1424 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,120 Speaker 1: And I believe the future for data centers. I believe 1425 01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:15,120 Speaker 1: the future for pretty much all large scale artificial intelligence 1426 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 1: and super computing, cloud computing, all of this is going 1427 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,479 Speaker 1: to be in small scale nuclear. And I believe that 1428 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 1: the economy of the future, as Will Martin said, the 1429 01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,360 Speaker 1: manufacturing of the future is going to be robotics. That's 1430 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,240 Speaker 1: going to be another massive strain on the power grid. 1431 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,800 Speaker 1: That you've got smarter and smarter AI infused robots that 1432 01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,800 Speaker 1: are doing a whole lot of the jobs that human 1433 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: beings are doing. Now, all right, it is time to 1434 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: step away from the serious and focus on the silly. 1435 01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 1: When we come back, strangest stories of the past week, 1436 01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:51,000 Speaker 1: it's how bizarre A font is too woke, a Christmas 1437 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 1: carol is too racist? We'll talk about it all five 1438 01:38:56,320 --> 01:39:00,040 Speaker 1: on a Friday evening. Hope everyone is getting into the 1439 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 1: weekend spirit, and to help with that, we take a 1440 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,960 Speaker 1: break from the serious stories and instead focus on the silly, 1441 01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 1: the strange, the stuff this week that made us scratch 1442 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:16,200 Speaker 1: our heads and say to ourselves, hows howz on. Former 1443 01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:22,639 Speaker 1: MSNBC host Joy Reid has shared a video on her 1444 01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 1: Instagram claiming that the beloved Christmas anthem jingle Bells was 1445 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,439 Speaker 1: quote written to make fun of black people. In the 1446 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,960 Speaker 1: video that she shared this week, a man in a 1447 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,960 Speaker 1: Christmas sweater in Santa hat stands on the streets of Medford, Massachusetts, 1448 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,799 Speaker 1: near a plaque that marks the site where James Lord 1449 01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:47,080 Speaker 1: Pierpont is believed to have pen the song in eighteen fifty. 1450 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,800 Speaker 1: He takes off his hat disapprovingly and scowls at the plaque. 1451 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:56,160 Speaker 1: The video caption reading this is where a racist Confederate 1452 01:39:56,280 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 1: soldier wrote jingle Bells to make fun of black people, 1453 01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 1: and has its origins in bigoted minstrel shows that were 1454 01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:09,680 Speaker 1: popular at the time. The video captions go on to 1455 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:14,000 Speaker 1: claim that Pierpont, whose nephew you know who, James Lord 1456 01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:20,840 Speaker 1: Pierpont's nephew is guarantee you've heard the name JP Morgan yep, 1457 01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 1: absolutely was hard up for cash when he composed the 1458 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:29,000 Speaker 1: one Horse Open Sleigh, and did so expressly for its 1459 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,800 Speaker 1: use in performance in which white actors put on blackface 1460 01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,760 Speaker 1: to quote mocking caricature black people trying to participate in 1461 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: winter activities. It alleges that the lyrics laughing all the 1462 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:45,080 Speaker 1: way in the song likely is a reference to a 1463 01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:51,599 Speaker 1: racist comedic routine of the day known as the laughing Darkie. 1464 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,439 Speaker 1: It most certainly is not. Pierpont patented the song in 1465 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,320 Speaker 1: eighteen fifty nine, changed its name to the familiar jingle 1466 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Bells before the start of the Civil War, at which 1467 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 1: point the video claims he abandoned his family to join 1468 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:10,439 Speaker 1: the Confederate army and wrote Southern fight songs to rouse 1469 01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:20,720 Speaker 1: men defending slavery. No, the origin of the claim that 1470 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 1: the song has racist roots stems from an academic article 1471 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. This according to The New York Post 1472 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:34,800 Speaker 1: by Boston University professor Kaina Hamil. Now, Hamil has been 1473 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,919 Speaker 1: quoted on this and says, no, we should not cancel 1474 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,519 Speaker 1: jingle Bells, And in fact, she says she has been 1475 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 1: misquoted for the past eight years, that jingle Bells wasn't 1476 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,360 Speaker 1: expressly written to make fun of black people, but that 1477 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 1: it was actually performed in minstrel shows. So yes, in 1478 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 1: case you were wondering, everything can be racist if you 1479 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:09,880 Speaker 1: are as stupid as joy Reach balzam Talbazon. Secretary of 1480 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:15,759 Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio has officially changed the state department's official 1481 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:22,080 Speaker 1: font from Calibri to Times New Roman that reverses a 1482 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:26,440 Speaker 1: change made during the Biden administration. Rubio's predecessor, Anthony Blincoln, 1483 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,120 Speaker 1: adopted Calibri two years ago twenty twenty three, saying it 1484 01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:34,719 Speaker 1: was more accessible for people with visual disabilities, but Rubio 1485 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,840 Speaker 1: said this was a wasteful diversity move and that the 1486 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 1: Times New Roman font was more formal and professional. The 1487 01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 1: New changes went into effect on December tenth, two days ago. 1488 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:51,880 Speaker 1: They applied to both external and internal documents. Now that's 1489 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:58,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily the strangest thing. Would you believe that lefties 1490 01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:03,160 Speaker 1: are comparing this to you, wait for it, the Nazis. 1491 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,600 Speaker 1: A prominent journalist compared Rubio's order for the State Department 1492 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:14,000 Speaker 1: to abandon Calibri to the nazis nineteen forty one ban 1493 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:19,439 Speaker 1: on Jewish fonts. Steve Herman, the former Bureau Chief White 1494 01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,760 Speaker 1: House Bureau chief for Voice of America, reacted to the 1495 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 1: new directive by comparing it to the Holocaust era Nazi 1496 01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,679 Speaker 1: initiative he posted on X. As quoted by Fox News, 1497 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:35,960 Speaker 1: the Nazis in nineteen forty one banned the Fractur font 1498 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:43,160 Speaker 1: because it was to Jewish on the social media platform Mastodon, 1499 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,719 Speaker 1: which is like Blue Sky, one of the left winger's 1500 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 1: attempts to replicate X. Herman reaffirmed his comparison to the 1501 01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,920 Speaker 1: comment section in the comment section of his own post 1502 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,680 Speaker 1: about Rubio's font order, confirming he was directly linking the 1503 01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:05,320 Speaker 1: two font initiatives. Just as everything can be racist to 1504 01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:15,680 Speaker 1: the left, everything can be linked to the Naxalbazon Coalmasa Talmazon. Finally, 1505 01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,920 Speaker 1: this might be my absolute favorite story of the week. 1506 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,519 Speaker 1: It comes to us from Hartford, Wisconsin Police Department. There 1507 01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,840 Speaker 1: say says a woman from Milwaukee pit just about the 1508 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:31,400 Speaker 1: worst possible time to try stealing from the Walmart in Hartford, 1509 01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the store's hand I can't 1510 01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,160 Speaker 1: even get through it, right in the middle of the 1511 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,400 Speaker 1: annual Shop with a Cop event. According to the Hartford 1512 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:45,840 Speaker 1: Police Department, Sophia Malik was wanted in connection with a 1513 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,280 Speaker 1: felony retail theft that happened days earlier at the Walmart 1514 01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 1: on fel Street. This according to Channel twelve, the ABC 1515 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:56,800 Speaker 1: affiliated Milwaukee, surveillance photos from the Walmart show a woman 1516 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: walking out of the store pulling a cart overflowing with 1517 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,799 Speaker 1: more than six hundred dollars worth of stolen toys, decor, 1518 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 1: and clothes on December third. Investigator said Mallick came back 1519 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,320 Speaker 1: to the store Saturday morning, December sixth, while more than 1520 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:14,760 Speaker 1: a dozen officers were inside taking part in Shop with 1521 01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,840 Speaker 1: a Cop, a holiday program that pairs police with local 1522 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,400 Speaker 1: children to pick out Christmas gifts. We were kind of 1523 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:25,160 Speaker 1: incredulous that she would come back, considering there probably wasn't 1524 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,639 Speaker 1: a corner that you could turn around in the store 1525 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,960 Speaker 1: and not see a police officer. A Hartford police chief, 1526 01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 1: Scott McFarlane said, I was at the register checking everybody out. 1527 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:37,480 Speaker 1: I heard over the radio that one of our officers 1528 01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,719 Speaker 1: had noticed that a shoplifting suspect from the previous day 1529 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:46,040 Speaker 1: was in the store. McFarlane said officers tracked her down 1530 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 1: in the store and arrested her out of the view 1531 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,519 Speaker 1: of the kids at the event. He said, the shop 1532 01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:55,240 Speaker 1: with a cop event continued without interruption, and wouldn't you 1533 01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,840 Speaker 1: know it, McFarlane said, she had filled the cart again 1534 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,680 Speaker 1: and was ready to push it out. Officers intercepted her 1535 01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:05,400 Speaker 1: at the door and made contact with her at that time. 1536 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 1: Washington County District Attorney has charged the twenty four year 1537 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:15,479 Speaker 1: old Sophia Melock with felony retail theft. According to the 1538 01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:19,320 Speaker 1: criminal complaints, she told detectives she would have shoplifted again 1539 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:23,280 Speaker 1: on December sixth, but changed her mind upon observing the 1540 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 1: police presence in the Walmart toy section. Hey, is it 1541 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,280 Speaker 1: just me or did that just disprove the left wing 1542 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:37,880 Speaker 1: notion that police officers don't prevent crimes? This woman said, 1543 01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,640 Speaker 1: I was going to shoplift. I saw the cops, I 1544 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:45,439 Speaker 1: thought better of it. Just kidding. She was absolutely going 1545 01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:50,320 Speaker 1: to shoplift again. Kudos to the Hartford Police Department for 1546 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,800 Speaker 1: making the arrest. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been your 1547 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,040 Speaker 1: weekly look back here on the Dan O'Donnell Show. Of 1548 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,680 Speaker 1: the stranger stories we could find. It's a segment we 1549 01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:11,040 Speaker 1: call how Bazar Howbazon Josh Vietti with a violin version 1550 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:15,120 Speaker 1: of the Mariah Carey classic All I Want for Christmas 1551 01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 1: is You. It's a very pretty version of this song. 1552 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:24,799 Speaker 1: Dan O'Donnell Show, Welcome back to it. Has anybody screwed 1553 01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 1: up his life worse than now? Former Michigan football coach 1554 01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,880 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore. I was tempted to do this story in 1555 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,840 Speaker 1: How Bizarre, but it's just it's so sad, it's so tragic. 1556 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 1: I can't make fun of this guy anymore than the 1557 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:48,880 Speaker 1: Internet has already done. He was arraigned today and we 1558 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,400 Speaker 1: now have complete details of the actions that led to 1559 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:57,000 Speaker 1: him and being arrested and jailed just hours after he 1560 01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,040 Speaker 1: was fired. On Wednesday, Prosecutors in an Arbor charged him 1561 01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:06,800 Speaker 1: with felony third degree home invasion and two misdemeanors stalking 1562 01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,920 Speaker 1: in a domestic relationship and breaking an entering. Moore was 1563 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,479 Speaker 1: released from jail today after meeting the twenty five thousand 1564 01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:21,639 Speaker 1: dollars bond. Prosecutors say that Moore forced his way into 1565 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:26,439 Speaker 1: the home of the female staff member who he was 1566 01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:30,600 Speaker 1: having an affair with, and said, I'm going to kill myself. 1567 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 1: I'm going to make you watch. My blood is on 1568 01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 1: your hands. You ruined my life. Yikes. According to an 1569 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:50,240 Speaker 1: assistant prosecutor by the name of Katie Resmirski, Moore barged 1570 01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 1: his way into the woman's apartment, went to a drawer 1571 01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:57,160 Speaker 1: in the kitchen and grabbed several butter knifes and a 1572 01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:02,320 Speaker 1: pair of scissors before threatening to take his own life. 1573 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 1: That would have taken a long time with a butter knife, 1574 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,160 Speaker 1: Let's just put it that way. Prosecutor detailed. More was 1575 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:12,720 Speaker 1: in an intimate relationship with the woman he worked with 1576 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,080 Speaker 1: for a number of years before she ended the relationship 1577 01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,960 Speaker 1: on Monday. This from ESPN dot com. The split prompted 1578 01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:24,120 Speaker 1: a flurry of calls and texts from More that the 1579 01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,920 Speaker 1: woman did not return. More is married to another woman 1580 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,599 Speaker 1: and they have three children. More's actions in the wake 1581 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,519 Speaker 1: of his former lover breaking up with him led her 1582 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,480 Speaker 1: to go to officials at Michigan and detail their relationship. 1583 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:43,080 Speaker 1: The school had previously investigated a tip about this situation 1584 01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 1: sources of toold ESPN, but could not prove it occurred. 1585 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,240 Speaker 1: The woman's admission and supporting evidence led the school to 1586 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:55,439 Speaker 1: quickly dismiss More for cause, saying he violated both his 1587 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,519 Speaker 1: contract and university policy. Michigan will not have to pay 1588 01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,160 Speaker 1: More the nearly twelve point three million dollars remaining on 1589 01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,719 Speaker 1: his deal because he was fired for clause. The women 1590 01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:13,560 Speaker 1: called police after More barged into her apartment. My goodness, 1591 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,840 Speaker 1: More had undergone a mental health evaluation, according to his 1592 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:24,720 Speaker 1: defense attorney, and he has not outlined where he was 1593 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:29,519 Speaker 1: going to stay upon his release, hopefully not with the 1594 01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:40,120 Speaker 1: wife and kids. I just wow, wow, wow. I guess 1595 01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,920 Speaker 1: I do not understand. No, I do, I do. I 1596 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 1: take that back, I do. Men in positions of power 1597 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:53,000 Speaker 1: have a tendency to believe that they can do anything, 1598 01:50:54,040 --> 01:51:00,840 Speaker 1: get anything anyone, And quite frankly, I don't know if 1599 01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say this. Producer Eric Ah, what the heck. 1600 01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,560 Speaker 1: It's the end of a show on a Friday afternoon. 1601 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,320 Speaker 1: Let's just say they're thinking with the wrong head, if 1602 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:16,400 Speaker 1: you catch my drift. The fact that he would throw 1603 01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:20,160 Speaker 1: away his life and he is never going to get 1604 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:24,200 Speaker 1: a head coaching job again. He probably is never going 1605 01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,719 Speaker 1: to get a college coaching job, professional coaching, No, who knows. 1606 01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:33,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I shouldn't say never. But the perpetual embarrassment 1607 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,559 Speaker 1: for those I believe he has three little daughters, for 1608 01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:40,400 Speaker 1: those girls that their dad. I mean, whenever you google 1609 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,280 Speaker 1: it's not like his name is John Smith. Whenever you 1610 01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,439 Speaker 1: google the name Sharon Moore, what do you think is 1611 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,639 Speaker 1: going to be the very first thing that pops up? 1612 01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,760 Speaker 1: And I mean, had the relationship just and had he 1613 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,880 Speaker 1: been able to just let it go, he would have 1614 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, no no harm, no foul. He probably would 1615 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,760 Speaker 1: have gone right on cheating with another woman. And now 1616 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,120 Speaker 1: women are coming out of the woodwork to say they 1617 01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:14,559 Speaker 1: too had inappropriate relationships with coach Moore. My favorite meme 1618 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:18,960 Speaker 1: has got to be it's Jim Harbaugh, the former coach 1619 01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,880 Speaker 1: at Michigan. Now he's with the Los Angeles Chargers. He said, hey, 1620 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:28,799 Speaker 1: coach Moore, Yeah, Jim wrong cheating a reference, of course, 1621 01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:34,240 Speaker 1: to the scandal that engulfed Jim Harbaugh's tenure at the 1622 01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:39,760 Speaker 1: University of Michigan. You know, folks, this is this is 1623 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 1: not what I'm going to laugh at because there are 1624 01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:47,360 Speaker 1: kids involved. There's his poor wife who is just thoroughly 1625 01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:53,920 Speaker 1: humiliated by this. Guys, stick with your wives, Please be faithful. 1626 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:59,520 Speaker 1: Just don't throw it all away for the executive assistant, 1627 01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,719 Speaker 1: no matter how much she might make those flirty eyes 1628 01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,160 Speaker 1: at you. All right, have a wonderful weekend, everybody. We 1629 01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,160 Speaker 1: are back Monday afternoon, three o six right here on 1630 01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:10,800 Speaker 1: the Dan o'donald Show. Stay warm,