1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Uh, this is the Mart Madden Show. You knew that 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: a three three, four one two WXDX number to call 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: because we have calls on the fifteen's. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Next get your Steeler. 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I guess for a week the Steelers angst is dead 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: or at least, you know, put in the coupver till 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: we get it out again. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: What are they gonna do to beat Euston? 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Because despite my status, is Debbie Donner and by the way, 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I far prefer to Debbie Donner Little Debbie lunch cakes, 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: even though they come from Philly. Despite my status is 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Debbie Donner. I think this is a winnable game. I 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: think that Demiko Ryans is a very good coach, but 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: he's a mark for defense. Houston won't put the Steelers away. 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: They might kill Rogers. Rogers couldn't handle the pressure of Cleveland. 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore applied no pressure, and Houston's gonna come. They got 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Anderson has twelve sacks. What's the other dude's name has 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: fifteen sacks? Point is, they might break Rogers. 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: In half, but. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he still scroll out of points. You 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: got DK back for Monday night, and that means a ton. 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I still want him to run the ball more. I 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: want to come back to this all day. Like Tom 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: and I were discussing, the Steelers threw forty seven passes 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: last night and ran the ball only twenty four times. 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: That is not a split that plays to the strengths 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: of that offense. And it's done for one reason. Grandpa 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: game manager wants to throw the ball every snap. Now, 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: he was great in the two series last night, but 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: I still believe, and especially to win Houston, you got 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: to run the ball more. But again, while the Steelers' offense, 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they won a fake playoff game against the 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: team that underachieved all year and did so again last night, 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: and the kicker blew it at the death for Baltimore. 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: But I look at this game against Houston, who were good, 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: and I don't believe Houston has the offense or the 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: in game ambition to run away with the score, despite 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: despite the Steelers defense being rotten. And it is Ryan's again, 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: he's like Tomlin. If he's got a lead, he just 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: lets his defense win it. A good coach, but behind 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the times just like Tomlin, except for the good coach part. 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: So the Steelers have a chance. I believe they do. 43 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: The Steelers have a chance because Houston is very likely 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: to let them have a chance. 45 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: Strive through for over three thousand yards. That ain't bad. 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Nineteen touchdowns, ain't interceptions. That's efficient, but not a lot 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. Nobody rushed for one thousand yards for Houston 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: or even eight hundred yards. The Texans let the defense 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: win games. Or here's that guy's name, Hunter. Hunter had 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: five fifteen sacks Anderson twelve. But this game it's winnable. 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm not predicting they're going to win, but it's winnable. 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: As we were talking about Miles, Garrett got the sack record, 53 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: and immediately the usual suspects went into their act, the 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: usual babble that Burrow laid down for Garrett like Farv 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: did for straight hand back when. 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: And Garrett didn't knock his block off on that sack. 57 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: But there was no getting away for Burrow, and Garrett 58 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: got there like in some absurdly brief length of time 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: like one point two seconds until he executed the. 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: Sack, but Brow did not lie down. 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: And then the narrative is that Watt did it in 62 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: less games than Garrett, and so did Strahan, because Watt 63 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: played fifteen games in twenty twenty one out of a 64 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule. Stray Han played sixteen games in two 65 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: thousand and one. That was the schedule then just sixteen games, 66 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and Garrett played seventeen games this year. Okay, but the 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: record is sacks in a season. There is no other 68 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: context besides sacks in a season. Miles Garrett has the 69 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: most sacks in a season and stray Han was bitching 70 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: about it on TV that he has the sixteen game record. 71 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: Garrett has the seventeen game record. 72 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: That's a bunch of crap, especially from a guy who 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: never deserved the record in the first place, because farvlay 74 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: down for him in two thousand and one, gave him 75 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: the record, took that record away from Mark Gastineau, and 76 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: Gastoneau he's a gym teacher, but he was right to 77 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: be as mad about that as he got, especially I 78 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: guess you probably saw the thirty for thirty clip where 79 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: he confronted Farv at a memorabilia show like a a 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: con and people thought that Gastoneau was being petty. He 81 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: was being petty, but he still should have kicked his ass. 82 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, when you rely on that 83 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of income, like you know, autographs, et cetera, memorabilia 84 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: cons and you can sign below your name all time 85 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: single season sack record, you can charge a little more. 86 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Your name is that much bigger, the profile that much larger. 87 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: So Gastona was right. I never considered straight hand the 88 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: single season sack leader at all. And I want to 89 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: talk more about some specifics and some other numbers regarding 90 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: that sack record in. 91 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: Just a little bit. 92 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: But here's the thing that Pittsburgh people don't get. I mean, 93 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: my god, you know what they're doing today. Here's how 94 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: efforts are. Okay, I had the priest on the field 95 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: yesterday sprinkling holy water. Now they're selling official Steeler holy 96 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: water on the strip with the logo and a bos Okay, 97 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a hit before you rushed down 98 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: there to buy it. 99 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: It's not actually holy water. 100 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: They just took water and put it in a bottle 101 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: with the Steeler logo. 102 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: And the Steelers can't be happy about that. 103 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: The Rooneys have been relayed just they give all their 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: charitable donations to some Catholic church in Ireland. They can't 105 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: be happy. But I digress. I just think that Pittsburgh's 106 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: the only place in the football world that thinks TJ. 107 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: Watt is a better player than Miles Garrett. Looking at 108 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the whole career right now, Garrett's runaway better. And there 109 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: were probably a couple of years where Wat was better, 110 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: like when Watt said the sack record, But honestly, really 111 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: only a couple of years. 112 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: I know what had more sacks than Garrett when. 113 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: Garrett got the Defensive Player of the Year and watstormed 114 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: out of the awards thing in Vegas. But nobody else 115 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: anywhere else complained that that was a bad call because Garrett's. 116 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Just a better player. 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: And I'll give you some more numbers in just a 118 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: little bit, but right now it's time for calls on 119 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: the fifteens. You probably won't call because you probably think 120 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm full of crap and I should be saying Yay Steelers, 121 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Go Steelers. But to be fair to me, early on, 122 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: right away, I said this team could beat anybody in 123 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: a playoff game. Oh my god, sarcasm dripped all over 124 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: my shoes. One oh five ninety X fully show smart mad. 125 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna nail us no matter what we do, so 126 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: we might as well have a good time Toe got 127 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to got the X. At one o five nine, it's 128 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: time for calls on the fifteens. We got Matt Williamson 129 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour, and that's gonna be 130 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: really interesting for me because I still don't know in 131 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: a lot of ways what the hell happened last night. 132 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: The Steelers did nothing in the first half of that matter, 133 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: neither did Baltimore. But the game just sprang the light 134 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: in the second half. And I'm not convinced that it 135 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: was necessarily either team playing better. I think there are 136 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes made, but mistakes can add up 137 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: to an entertaining game, and perhaps that's what happened last night. 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: At after sure, we'll get the straight and skinny from 139 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, our football guru, at about three point thirty, 140 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: But right now we got calls on the fifteens. Let's 141 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: go to Jebediah from Squirrel Hill. Jebediah, you're on with 142 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: Double M. 143 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: Well, well, well, just another Mike Tomlin masterclass right in 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: old Double M's face. 145 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: It's just amazing. 146 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, will we win a playoff game? Okay, will 147 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: he win a playoff game on Monday? 148 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: You know what? 149 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: You know what? 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: If he wins, if he wins. 151 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: A playoff game, if he wins a playoff game, Junior, 152 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you can put it in my face. But he ain't 153 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: done that for eight years. And that Super Bowl. 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: So long ago. 155 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: You were probably still crapping your pants. Well you might 156 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: do that now, but you were probably wearing diapers back 157 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: when he won a Super Bowl. So please don't act 158 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: like this guy taught a master class. Let me ask 159 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: you this, Einstein, and if coach Tomlin did, indeed, I'm 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: sure your friends, I'm sure you call him coach T. 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: If coach T taught a master class, what exactly did 162 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: he do to win that game? Where is the master 163 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: part of the class? You can speak now. 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: They have no offensive weapons and he just won four 165 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: out of his last five games with a game. 166 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: That's not what I asked you. That's not what I 167 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: asked you. I said, what did he do last night 168 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to win that game? His defense, which he's in charge of, 169 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: was terrible. Aaron Rodgers brought the offense to what it 170 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: did not Mike Tomlin. What you think, Mike Tomlin is 171 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Colin plays on offense? You think Mike Tomlin is making 172 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: decisions on offense? Mike Tomlin. Don't know whether the ball's 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: blown up or stuffed on offense, So I give you 174 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: a second chance. Einstein, tell me exactly what was the 175 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: master part of last night's class. 176 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: He redirected the offense to throw. 177 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: By goodbye, goodbye, redirected, redirected my ass, redirected my left testicle. 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is making all the decisions on offense, and 179 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: that includes Arthur Smith. 180 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: Give me a break, what are you sleeping with? Tomlin? 181 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Inappropriate joke, thought of and dismissed. Let's go to John, John, 182 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: you're on with double. 183 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 5: M yikes, Well help follow that. I thought Aaron played okay. 184 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 5: But do you think he got a little bit too 185 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 5: cute and tried to outsmart everyone with all the pre 186 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 5: snap stuff. 187 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I think he always does that, and I don't 188 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: think it's being cute because I just think he wants 189 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: to throw the ball. I think he doesn't trust anybody 190 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: as much as he trusts himself, and that includes his 191 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: running backs and the running game. As far as using 192 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: the timeouts, I was at the All Star Sports Bar 193 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: and Grill in South Point last night and I had 194 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: a debate with that about that him using the timeouts 195 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: early with a couple people, and I thought the game 196 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: was there to be won when he took those timeouts, 197 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: and I'd rather have him take the timeout and be 198 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: sure about his decision. 199 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: Plus which there were some communication. 200 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: Problems with the helmet thing with with with the speakers 201 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: in the helmet. 202 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I trust them enough to make those decisions. 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 5: But part of me just feels like they got a 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: little bit lucky. But apparently not. I mean, they had 205 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: fifty five seconds left when they scored, so they apparently 206 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: didn't need it. 207 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Let's go to Nick in the truck. Nick, what's up? 208 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 4: Jeff? 209 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: And Das sounded a lot like the Hebrew Hammer. I 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: don't know if you caught that or not. 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: No, it did, It wasn't. The Hebrew Hammer is a 212 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: lot smarter, all right. 213 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: Anyways, The reason for my call was when you were 214 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: talking about runs compared to passes in yesterday's game. Technically, yeah, 215 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: there's a lot less. But do you find that the 216 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: passes that they're causing that are actually runs just outside 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: the tackle? 218 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Just a good point. There's a good point. Uh, Do 219 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I consider those runs? The stats don't? And I always 220 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: wonder in the back of my mind of Aaron Rodgers. 221 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: Isn't isn't throwing more passes to some degree for better 222 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: stats for that career, Mark. 223 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: I do want to be fair for Aaron Roddy. 224 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean it is blatantly obvious how well the Steelers 225 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: do when he is in charge, for when they're doing 226 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: their two minute offense and enough. 227 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean it is in certain situations like the end 228 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: of the game when they had to score and score quick, 229 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: there is no doubting the impact his guile and decision 230 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: making at the line has on the game. There's also 231 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: no dot to my mind, they should run more. That 232 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: that needs to be established better and early and for more. 233 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: I do think with DK coming back, they are going 234 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: to run a lot more. I think it made it 235 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: very difficult since they didn't have a lot of weapons. 236 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: But in saying talking about TJ. Watt with his uh 237 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: with not getting the record or Mouth Garrett getting the record, 238 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: I guess to be fair, if you want to be technical, 239 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: I want to say that Mouth Garrett did it in 240 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: a lot less reps and TJ. 241 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: Watts I saw that somewhere that Garrett set his record 242 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: in less reps than anybody else trying to like claim 243 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: to the record whether it's water, stray in or whoever. 244 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: But but you see that doesn't figure into the record. Nick, 245 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: it's most sad in a season. Let's go to Corey. Corey, 246 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: you're on double M. Good day. 247 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: I said, good day, Hey, Mark. 248 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I know there's not a lot of 249 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: criticisms about Tomlin, but I mean he just won the 250 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: AFC North with this. 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: Team AFC North. They run the North. Did you get 252 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: your hat and T shirt? It means nothing unless they 253 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. 254 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: Nothing. 255 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 4: No, I think that you got to extend them. You 256 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 4: got to give them a long term contract. 257 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: The guys, are you serious of being sarcastic? 258 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 4: I'm dead serious. 259 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: The guys you Mark, you are typical of a crappy, 260 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: local idiot Steeler fan who settles. You just want to 261 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: settle as long as every game means something, and you 262 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: get drunk and go to the sports bar and get 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: to say we run the North. You're stupid. Goodbye. Never 264 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: call here again, never listen again. I'm going to chase 265 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: away my listeners and callers one at a time and 266 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: be glad when it's over. Okay, Oh, by the way, 267 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: regarding somebody asked if why the Steelers had to use 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: time ONTs when their communication system broke down, and that's 269 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: just the way it is. But an official statement from 270 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: the NFL from spokesman Robert plant was, it's always the same. 271 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: It feels like you're having a nervous breakdown. It'll drive 272 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: you insane. Matt Williamson. Next one oh five to. 273 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: Nine Thursday night, the Pens take on the Devils. 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Sunday at five PM for the 297 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Penguins game, Monday for the Steelers playoff games. So joined 298 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: me at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton for Sunday Night 299 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: hockey and Monday night playoff football. Joining me now to 300 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: talk Steelers. He is our football guru. He's the former 301 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: pro and college Scott Matt Williamson. Matt, that game was 302 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: so slow in the first half and so frantic in 303 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the second. 304 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: What made that happen? 305 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: That's a great question. I mean the cliche, but these 306 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 4: teams know each other so well, and I think there's 307 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: a lot of between Harbaugh and Tomlin over the years 308 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: that I know that you know that I know that 309 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: you know, and they can be hesitant, but I think 310 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 4: a lot of it was Steels quarterback. I mean Rogers 311 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: started to really figure out the defense. Hamilton going out 312 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: of the game didn't hurt at all, and started to 313 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: really get a feel for what Baltimore is trying to do, 314 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: their lack of pass rush and not being able to, 315 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, even cover poor receivers anywhere close to as 316 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: well as Cleveland did. And I also think they realized, 317 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: you know, Baltimore does not want to run Lamar. It 318 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: zero scrambles in this game that really really focus on Henry, 319 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: and then they got away from Henry. But then there 320 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: was also this craziness too. I mean, a couple superhuman 321 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: plays by Lamar, missed field goals. You know, everything ramped up, 322 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 4: and it's kind of like you know deadlines, you know, 323 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 4: contracted done at the Vinyl deadline. Well maybe everyone just 324 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: left that thing on the table at the end. 325 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 326 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: I got a quote I'm going to play later from 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith saying the Steelers were lucky. But I 328 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: think any team that would have won that game would 329 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: have been lucky, not least because of what went down 330 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: with the kickers at the end. But how good was 331 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Rogers down the stretch and how specifically did he step up? 332 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: What did you see him doing on those last couple drives. 333 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he got a lot better as the 334 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 4: game went on, And a huge key is And I 335 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: was on top of this going into the game, but 336 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: maybe should have even stressed it more. But we kind 337 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: of knew that the Ravens, who are a heavy zone team, 338 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: were going to mimic the Browns game plan defensively. And 339 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: why wouldn't you after watching Steelers Browns man coverage, you know, 340 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: single high safety, but they don't have the secondary the 341 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: Browns do, and they don't have anything close to the 342 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 4: past rush. So I think Rogers quickly realized counter, you know, 343 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: the the Browns game, that I can sit here and 344 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: pat the football for a second or two and go 345 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: through my reads where Browns that had to come out now, 346 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 4: you know, like even if it is steel In or mvs. 347 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: They give these guys a half second longer, they're still 348 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: gonna eventually kind of get open, you know, where the 349 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 4: Browns they couldn't get open at all in a shorter 350 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: amount of time, you know, So I thought that was key. 351 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: I guess that's pretty much the gist of it. And 352 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: I also think that the moment was not too big 353 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: at all for the old veteran, you know, no. 354 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: No question. 355 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: I mean that last drive was vintage, and he was 356 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: just bringing them with confidence at that point. 357 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: But you make a good point. 358 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland put pressure on him and Baltimore didn't. 359 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: Houston's gone. How does he have to adjust for that game? 360 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: That's gonna be a real chore because I think Houston's 361 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: the best defense in the league, which might be a 362 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: little unfair to Cleveland because they get no help from 363 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: their offense. But Seattle, Philly, Cleveland, and this one is 364 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 4: number one. They are going to get pressure. They have 365 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: an elite corner, they have a really good secondary. In general, 366 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: they're could at all levels. Now. They don't do a 367 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: ton to confuse you. They're kind of an execution based defense, 368 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: but the execution is phenomenal. I seem like I say 369 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: this every week and they never really do In this 370 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 4: pass game, it didn't hurt them, but I still think 371 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: the Steelers running game is quite good, and they drift 372 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: away from it. I mean, it worked yesterday and Rogers 373 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: was hot, but the run pass ratio, especially going into 374 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: this Houston game, to me, should be right around fifty 375 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 4: to fifty. And I also think I'm sure we'll get 376 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: the Houston other side of the ball. This will not 377 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 4: be a shootout. So if your run, run, run, punt, 378 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 4: so be it. You live to play another day, you know. 379 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: No, That's what I've been saying about this matchup is 380 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: that Demiko Ryans. I think he's a good coach, but 381 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: he's very like minded to Tom win. If he gets 382 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: the lead, he'll let his defense win it, and I 383 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: think that'll keep the game close and maybe be that 384 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of rock fight that Tom went first. 385 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Monday night at home, there are some things. 386 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: I'll be honest. It wasn't long ago that I thought 387 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: Houston was the best team in the AFC, and I 388 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: probably still feel that way. They haven't lost since, and 389 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: I believe her. All the teams are flawed. I think 390 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: you're getting them exactly when and where you want them. 391 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 4: I don't think winning twenty three games at home in 392 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: a row on Monday night can be a fluke. And 393 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: you get a little bit extra rest to prepare for 394 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: a Monday night game as opposed to a Saturday or Sunday, right. 395 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: And with an old team getting that extra rest too. 396 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: Yes, you know they got robbed of that. This past week, 397 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: and the weakness of Houston is plays well to the 398 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: Steeler strength, and that is Houston's offensive line is still 399 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 4: very problematic. So both these defensive fronts are pretty fierce 400 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: to me, and that means low scoring rock fight at 401 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 4: home on Monday nights. See where the Chips land. 402 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, we're CJ straud at Houston's quarterback at this 403 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: point in his career because his numbers are modest, but 404 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that that strikes me as being locked by design. 405 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: Yes, has not gotten a ton of help over the 406 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: last couple of years outside of his rookie season. Offensive 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: line was the worst in the league last year and 408 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: they totally revamped it and didn't really make it much better. 409 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: Their running game has been at the bottom of the 410 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 4: league for two or three years in a row. I 411 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 4: understand why there's concerns about Stroud, especially because he bursts 412 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: on the scene as a rookie so strong, and he 413 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 4: hasn't taken that next step of being elite. But I 414 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: think he's a very firm Tier two guy. You know, 415 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: I'm a believer. 416 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: To be honest, I'd say top of tier two, wouldn't. 417 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: You, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the seventh best quarterback 418 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: walking the Earth or something like that. 419 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: Well, let's get back to that defense real quick, because 420 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: like you said, they don't try to confuse you, they 421 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: just kind of batter you. And the thing what their 422 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: pressure is, It comes from all over the place, don't it. 423 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: There's so many options in. 424 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: That regard, yes, and it all starts with their edge. 425 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: Guys like Ki Smith, Watt Herbig are a great group 426 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: of edge players, but Hunter and Anderson are the best pair. 427 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean they are the best edge defending team in 428 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: the league. Anderson if it wasn't for Miles Garrett, could 429 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: have been Defensive Player of the Year. But they're strong 430 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: up the middle. Their linebackers are extremely, extremely active. They 431 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: have a glue piece in Jalen Petree who's kind of 432 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: like their slot safety, puts everything together. I think it's 433 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 4: probably the best pairing of corners, So finding weaknesses is 434 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: really really hard. Their free safety covers a ton of 435 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 4: ground in the middle of the field, so you know 436 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: what's coming. But it's hard to deal with because they're 437 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 4: always going to find a match up to their liking. 438 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about Williamson, our football guru who's brought to 439 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: us by Shop Dot Steelers dot Com Matt getting back 440 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: to the game last night, forbid was Lamar good? 441 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: Bad? Shades of gray? 442 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: What? 443 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: He made? 444 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: The two big throws? But he made some bad ones too, Yeah, 445 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: actually actually three big throws, including the one that set 446 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: up what should have been the game winning field goal. 447 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, the likely and both Flower touchdowns. Yes, he made 448 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: a couple of big throws. He made a couple huge plays. 449 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 4: But I think they were trying to protect him. I mean, 450 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: I think he only threw six passes in the first half, 451 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: and that being said, they got away from Henry. I 452 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: mean outside the first quarter. I think Henry only had 453 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: seven or any touches something like that, which is criminal 454 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: and it's something the Ravens have done consistently. But I 455 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 4: did not think Lamar was great. I thought he was fine. 456 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: He's still capable of superhuman plays, and he made a 457 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: couple and that was almost enough. But that was not 458 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: the best version of Lamar, not even close. 459 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: Did Baltimore run Henry enough just twenty times? 460 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: Though? No, that if this was if we were in 461 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 4: Baltimore right now, I think that would be my number 462 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: one complaint on Monday morning, saying guys that this was 463 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: working well. And I understand the Steelers, you know, really 464 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: bowed up against Henry and did well. But Lamar's not 465 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 4: the guy he has been. Our receivers aren't great, our 466 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: protection's not great. This game's very winnable. We have a 467 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 4: lead for a lot of it. Why aren't we handing 468 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: it to the guy that had thirty six carries or 469 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: whatever in Green Bay over and over because the evidence 470 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 4: is so overwhelming no matter who they play that by 471 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, even when he's not super successful, he 472 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: starts plussing off long runs well. 473 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: And it sounds ridiculous given what we were just talking about, Matt, 474 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: the big throws that Lamar made. I found myself wondering 475 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: after the game if they would have indeed been better 476 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: off with Snoop because while those big throws wouldn't have 477 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: been there, if you give Henry the ball, you know, 478 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: thirty five forty times, he will break you down into 479 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: moral I don't feel. 480 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: Like the Steelers ever thought they were gonna lose. 481 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: No, I mean really, outside of the first carry, the 482 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: Ravens offense did very very little, and on a stay 483 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: by play basis, whether that ball goes through the uprights 484 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 4: or not, I would have said talking to you today 485 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: that I thought the Steelers were a better team. Now, 486 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: there were a handful of plays that if they would 487 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: have lost, we'd be talking about a ton. But I thought, 488 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: you know, down after down, the Steelers won in both 489 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: trenches consistently. I mean, and that was the biggest advantage 490 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: going in, you know, without without a doubt the big 491 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 4: picture talking about the Ravens, they need to rebuild two lines, 492 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 4: and that's gonna be a hard offseason for that. 493 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the Steelers, how do I want to 494 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: put this, I thought they beat the Ravens in the trenches. 495 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I didn't feel they bully balled them. I didn't feel 496 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: they battered them. I just think they played better. It's 497 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: not like they made the Ravens shrink. They just executed. 498 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree. Now I think Cam Heward and company 499 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 4: maybe we're leaving a little more dominant than the way 500 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: you praised that. 501 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Yes, they especially Cam, I mean Cam and Derrick Harman 502 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: won their battle clearly, those. 503 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: Two for sure. 504 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: Yes, in terms of where the bigger, tougher, stronger, meaner, 505 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: you know, and better technician. I thought Cam Hayward was 506 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: the best player in the field. 507 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: I do too, and I've come to realize, and we 508 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: talked about this last week, we underestimate Joey Porter. 509 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: Id. 510 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: He hasn't given up like you tweeted. He hasn't given 511 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: up a touchdown. Now it's got to be over fifteen 512 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: hundred snaps. And I know he commenced the occasional, you know, 513 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: Hansy type of penalty. 514 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: But boy, nobody really does much against him. 515 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: Like last night, every time something bad happened, you saw 516 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: number five. 517 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: He was at the scene of the crime. You didn't 518 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: see number twenty four. 519 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: He's totally out of the picture now in such a 520 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: good way that I think he's becoming truly one of 521 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: the best corners in the league. And now people will 522 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: always go back to the penalties, which I understand. And 523 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: last year he was the most penalized defender in the 524 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: whole league. But this year they're not bad at all. 525 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 4: I mean, contrary to popular belief, he has not taken 526 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: many penalties this year. And when you look at who 527 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: are the most penalized players in the league, it's usually 528 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 4: a corner like certain that has a really really hard 529 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 4: assignment week after week, just like Porter, and I think 530 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: his tackling's gotten better. 531 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: Do you think like I do, that the Steelers still 532 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: need to win Monday night against Houston to make this 533 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: a successful season. 534 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: It feels like that win last night. 535 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: Is if they invented a playoff game by losing a 536 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland and then won it and it was a lot 537 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: of fun to watch in a game that will be 538 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: remembered an instant classic. I'm not sure how much it 539 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: means if they lose this coming Monday. 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, I know, this 541 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: isn't how you phrased it, but I do think if 542 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: they win, no matter what, it's a successful year. You 543 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 4: get that playoff win. 544 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: If they beat Houston. Yeah, yeah, it is, for sure. 545 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: It is. 546 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's not that you have trade about it, 547 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: but it's it's something they haven't done, and it would 548 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: be against a real good opponent. 549 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: If they don't get blown out, then they play Houston 550 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: really tight. I'm probably gonna look at the season as 551 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 4: a success because I think Houston's a very, very good opponent. 552 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: But if it's a playoff game like it's been the 553 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: last couple of years, where it's over at halftime it's 554 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: non competitive, then I'm with you that a lot of 555 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 4: this is for nothing. 556 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: Would you bring Rogers back if he wants? 557 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: Is that a decision that you'd have to look at 558 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: all the tape and see how things go against Houston. 559 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: Some of it makes me crazy in terms of all 560 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: the checkdowns, and I'm sure he has a lot to 561 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 4: do with not running the ball as much as I 562 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: would prefer. 563 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: I think you have everything to do with it, Matt. 564 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and sometimes it's highly successful, and maybe if you 565 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: get draft the receiver in the first round, even more successful. 566 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: And I lean towards yes, and mostly because I just 567 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: really respect his wisdom and approach to the game, and 568 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: I think he's really good to be around the organization 569 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: and the young players. And frankly, the more I study it, 570 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 4: the options outside of Rogers really aren't very exciting this year. 571 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: So I hate it too often in the offseason I 572 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: will to say Russell Wilson because he's the best thing 573 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: available and it doesn't work out. I don't want to 574 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 4: take that approach, but I also don't know what the 575 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: better answer is right this minute. 576 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: If you're going to get an old guy to try 577 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: to win now, then he's as good a choice as any. 578 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: Although at forty three. 579 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, every year you go up in the NFL 580 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: at that age in the first place is as a 581 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: leap of faith. But if they draft who they think 582 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: is their quarterback, I wouldn't mind Rogers being around him 583 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: for a year, and of course him learning from Rogers, 584 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't know if Rogers is a mentor type guy, 585 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: but something good would have to rub off. 586 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just like it did with Jordan Love. I mean, 587 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 4: that's kind of what I was going to say, except 588 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: I just don't think where they're going to be picking, 589 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: there's going to be a quarterback that fits that bill, unfortunately, 590 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 4: but that option might be taken off the table for him. 591 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: And I don't have high hopes for like Will Howard, 592 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 4: But I want to say, you know, if you were 593 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: to run it back with these three guys, you could 594 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: play Will Howard like crazy through the preseason just at 595 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: least get an idea of what he gets. 596 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: To find out, Just to. 597 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: Find out, just to check the box yes or no, 598 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: or is he lifetime backup or whatever? You'd at least 599 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: know we got robbed of that. Maybe you take a 600 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: shot on like a second or third round quarterback that 601 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: needs a lot of work, But has a lot of 602 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: skills and traits, and he just sits around Aaron and 603 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: does all the things that he does. It's there's not 604 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: a real clean answer. But as we said here, I 605 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: kind of lean towards run it back with Rogers to 606 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: be standing to come back, and you have a lot 607 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: of draft picks develop them. 608 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: You know, I would ask you who's gonna win Monday night. 609 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: But let's face if neither of us has really any idea, do. 610 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 4: We we don't. I'm leaning towards Houston. I have a 611 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: lot of respect for this team. 612 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: You know what. 613 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: I was leaning toward Baltimore last night. But let me 614 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: give you the same disclaimer. It applies to Houston too, 615 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: but Houston's obviously much better. If the Steelers come out 616 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: of halftime competitive, I think it'll. 617 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: Be decided at the death one way or the other. 618 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: I think Houston is the team among the two that 619 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: could put the game away early. But if they don't, 620 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: I think the pendulum swings the other way. Yeah. 621 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: The longer the longer the fight goes, the more rounds 622 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: it goes, you think they have a better chance to 623 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: win it. If it goes twelve rounds, you think in 624 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 4: the end they could, you know, if it's a two 625 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 4: round fight, they lost. 626 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's basic talk show bs. But Matt, this 627 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: is the business. I've chosen Matt christ As always, I 628 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the input. 629 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: All but take care. 630 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: That's Matt Williamson. Nobody knows more about it than him. Uh. 631 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: He's sponsored by Steelers Pro Shop get it direct from 632 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: the team at shop dot Steelers dot com contractor