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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty Healthy KFI AM six forty Bill Handle. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday morning, it's a hump day, October twenty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's day twenty two of the government shutdown and dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the government shutdown. What is this about? The Republicans?

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats are an impasse and with the Republicans want

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<v Speaker 2>where the budget ends? Okay, it's over for the budget, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And what has to happen is Congress has to vote

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<v Speaker 2>itself a.

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<v Speaker 1>Budget every year. That's the law.

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<v Speaker 2>And if a budget isn't voted in by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of that term, it goes into government shutdown, runs out

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<v Speaker 2>of money because they can't borrow money anymore, can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what's going on, Well, this really contentious issue

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<v Speaker 2>between Republicans and Democrats have to do mainly with healthcare. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what the Republicans want is something called the Continue Resolution,

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<v Speaker 2>which happens over and over and over again, and they

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<v Speaker 2>what it says is tell you what we are in

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<v Speaker 2>an impasse in terms of an issue, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>so important that government is stopping. So the Republicans and

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats have done this too. On the other side, say

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<v Speaker 2>we want to continue in resolution, which means we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the budget at exactly the same level as now,

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<v Speaker 2>we make no changes, called a clean bill, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>vote on it, and that funds the government for another

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<v Speaker 2>month or sixty days or three months or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Another week.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes if they're close to negotiating a deal and this

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<v Speaker 2>time ain't happening because both sides are so adamant. Now

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<v Speaker 2>on the Democratic side, they're saying no because Obamacare, the

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<v Speaker 2>premiums are exploding ahead of enrollment, the national enrollment and

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<v Speaker 2>the shutdown fight, and so what's going on with this, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats are saying that where the Republicans want our

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<v Speaker 2>cuts in Medicaid and in Medicare and Obamacare cuts across

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<v Speaker 2>the board, and the Republicans are saying, these aren't cuts,

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<v Speaker 2>We just don't want to extend the extension because COVID

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<v Speaker 2>came into being under Joe Biden when it really kicked in.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened was Medicaid was expanded to have more people

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<v Speaker 2>covered by the government in terms of healthcare, and what

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans want to do is simply ended or say

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to expand it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is over. It was sunseted.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not want to spend the money, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are saying, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you do. And that's the fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Why Because if the Democrats don't get their way and

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<v Speaker 2>the extensions of Medicare Medicaid stop, which they are basically now,

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<v Speaker 2>tens of millions of people will lose their insurance, will

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<v Speaker 2>lose their subsidies. Tens of millions of people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be uninsured or have insane premiums which they have

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<v Speaker 2>to depending on income part Obamacare part their own premiums.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Here's well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been a favorite, a fan of single payer,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, national health, and I'm obviously an out of control,

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<v Speaker 2>unhinged left winger, which I have been from the time

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<v Speaker 2>I first started broadcasting. I believe in national health, that is,

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<v Speaker 2>the government pays for health and we pay through it

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<v Speaker 2>through taxes. We are the only industrialized country in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>first world country in the world that does not have

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<v Speaker 2>national health.

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<v Speaker 1>When the government can.

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<v Speaker 2>Negotiate, guess what, prices get reasonably low. When the government

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<v Speaker 2>and has nothing to do with it, and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>private insurers or no insurance, then people pay big, big money.

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<v Speaker 2>So now give me, let me give you some stats.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, premiums nationwide are set to rise by eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent on average. I buy private insurance. I pay about

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six thousand dollars a year for my family. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at probably a ten percent rise in my premiums.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be forty thousand dollars a year for medical insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I can afford it because I make a good living.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of you can afford forty thousand dollars a year?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's if you make more than I think one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirteen or one hundred and thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year, which plenty of couples do. No subsidy, you're

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<v Speaker 2>on your own. That's why it's so upset. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I look at the administration and the Republicans in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>national defense is certainly a priority, a trillion dollar budget

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<v Speaker 2>for the Pentagon, the concentration of efforts, money, and just

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<v Speaker 2>our thinking on illegal immigration is far more, far stronger

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<v Speaker 2>than subsidizing health then giving you insurance. We just think

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans the Democrats just have different views on it.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Democrats, medical insurance for you is simply more

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<v Speaker 2>important than picking up illegal aliens that are roaming in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets because they are obviously far more threat than

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<v Speaker 2>your health.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, that's not an exaggeration, that one I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do a lot of hyperbolic stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, but this one is absolutely true. It's

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<v Speaker 2>time to end the subsidies. That's the Republican position. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are saying this, this is so important. We're prepared

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<v Speaker 2>just the government to shut down. Republicans won't negotiate. They

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<v Speaker 2>want the continuing resolution until we quote, we figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republicans are not going to cave on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the additional subsidies. They want the extensions of

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<v Speaker 2>those benefits. Shut down, boom done. Democrats are saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>want the extensions to continue on maybe the advancement of

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<v Speaker 2>these processes and the expanding that we did to include

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<v Speaker 2>more people.

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<v Speaker 1>We want that permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's the fight, and both sides are willing to

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<v Speaker 2>let the government go unfunded.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many.

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<v Speaker 2>Millions of people are out of work not getting their paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>You see the news every day where people are saying

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<v Speaker 2>I can't feed my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I work for the government.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other side of it is every member

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<v Speaker 2>of ICE, they get paid as they pick up illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, illegal aliens are illegal. They're violating

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<v Speaker 1>the law, they really are. It's a question of priorities,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. It's a question of priorities. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The Internal Revenue Service has been cut dramatically. The IRS

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<v Speaker 2>funds the government, that's where the government makes its money,

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<v Speaker 2>and billions, hundreds of billions of dollars are.

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<v Speaker 1>Left on the table because I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Arresting illegal aliens are more important than getting money, more

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<v Speaker 2>important than the government's job in getting paid. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>part I don't understand. But be prepared for some serious,

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<v Speaker 2>serious raises. If you're on Obamacare, if you have any

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<v Speaker 2>subsidy from the government, be prepared to pay a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>Money for your insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and several tens of millions of people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be thrown off that program because they were put

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<v Speaker 2>under that program when the expans of Medicaid kicked in.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the average is a story out of

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<v Speaker 2>Secure dot USA or Secure dot US. And they did

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<v Speaker 2>the figures, and the average cost of a family health

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<v Speaker 2>insurance plan if yourself and if you are paying without subsidy,

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<v Speaker 2>is twenty seven thousand dollars a year. All right, Now

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<v Speaker 2>back we go to what's going on with the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, everybody knows that the president was investigated

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<v Speaker 2>for all kinds of purported misconduct, interference with the election,

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<v Speaker 2>the document's case coming out of mar A Lago, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of that disappeared because the president was elected, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he had to defend himself, and he did. And

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<v Speaker 2>what he wants in terms of his damages beyond of

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<v Speaker 2>course anything in terms of paying of paying lawyers, is

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<v Speaker 2>what he is accusing the Justice Department of is malicious

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<v Speaker 2>prosecution in charging him, especially in the sensitive records case.

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<v Speaker 2>And he wants damages two hundred and thirty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants that from the federal government. And who decides

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<v Speaker 2>whether he gets two hundred and thirty million dollars the

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<v Speaker 2>Justice Department, and which attorneys at the Justice Department decide

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<v Speaker 2>whether he gets two hundred and thirty million dollars in damages.

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<v Speaker 2>Why attorneys that worked for him and defended him during

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<v Speaker 2>his case by the government, they were his lawyers, and

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<v Speaker 2>now they're going to determine whether he gets two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty million dollars in damages. There has never been

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<v Speaker 2>a conflict like this in the US presidency. This is

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<v Speaker 2>without president precedence. An ethics professor at Patie University said,

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<v Speaker 2>what a travesty. The ethical conflict is so basic and

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<v Speaker 2>fundamental you don't even need a law professor to explain it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bizarre and almost two Outland is to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>people in the Justice Department that will decide whether his

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<v Speaker 2>claim should be successful or not are the same people

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<v Speaker 2>that served him as his attorneys. So he is he

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<v Speaker 2>first has to file a claim to the Justice Department,

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<v Speaker 2>and if a settlement can be reached, then it goes

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<v Speaker 2>away without a lawsuit. If it can't and the government

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<v Speaker 2>rejects his claim, then he can still sue the court

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<v Speaker 2>to determine whether he gets two hundred and thirty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's his Justice department determining whether he gets money. Next

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<v Speaker 2>time you want to raise, go into your boss's office

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<v Speaker 2>and just say I have decided I am getting a

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent twenty percent raise, And the boss says, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about, And you say, it's my call.

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<v Speaker 1>I make that decision.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the analogy the current deputy attorney general,

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<v Speaker 2>who specifically has the duty to make that decision, or

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<v Speaker 2>part of him. There's two people said at his confirmation

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that his attorney client relationship with the President continued,

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<v Speaker 2>and the chiefs. The chief of the Civil Division Stanley Woodward,

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<v Speaker 2>represented Trump's co defendant Waltout in the classified documents case.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's I mean nothing less than a sounding.

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<v Speaker 2>So settlement of claims against the Department by anybody of

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<v Speaker 2>more than four million dollars has to be approved by

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<v Speaker 2>the Deputy Attorney General or Associate Attorney General, both of

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<v Speaker 2>which served as his private lawyers. So let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the chances of Trump making a claim about

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<v Speaker 2>the two hundred and thirty million dollar damages that he

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<v Speaker 2>suffered as a result of the investigation, And that's based

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<v Speaker 2>on malicious prosecution. He's arguing punitive damages that the government

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<v Speaker 2>acted so maliciously that the damages go way beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Just out of pocket costs.

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<v Speaker 2>So he is making a claim or he is asking

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<v Speaker 2>for two hundred and thirty million dollars, and he will

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<v Speaker 2>decide through ordering his deputy attorney generals whether he gets

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<v Speaker 2>the two hundred and thirty million dollars, and I guarantee,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to be outraged. They're going to go, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the Republicans in Congress are going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, although they have no say about this, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fair. Two hundred and thirty million dollars is a

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<v Speaker 2>drop in the bucket considering what you did to President Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not a billion dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're gonna if you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the money, probably, why would you only go for two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty million dollars? Hell, government has a budget

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<v Speaker 2>of what I don't know what is the government's budget

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<v Speaker 2>seven eight trillion dollars a year?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what's what's the trillion dollars year or there?

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly two hundred and thirty million dollars is a drop,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a drop in the bucket. Wow. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I mean when I heard this, I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was pretty stunned. I said, really, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised. Every day I go, Okay, here's another one,

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<v Speaker 2>here's another one. This one was, ah, come on, please,

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<v Speaker 2>all right? If you go to a restaurant named Gwen

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood. It's a Michelin starred restaurant, and uh, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to a someone yer. The server recommends something smooth

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<v Speaker 2>and full body. But Samolier comes around and what he

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<v Speaker 2>is similieing in.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's a verb that we just made up.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not wine. It is water. An eleven dollar bottle

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<v Speaker 2>of still water from the East Coast in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>where a writer went in there to do a story.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the writer didn't go there for the food, went

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<v Speaker 2>there for the water. Checking out LA's hot spot water menu,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole menu the world of fine water. She drank

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<v Speaker 2>East Coast water, Saratoga. I'm absolutely obsessed with the taste

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<v Speaker 2>and the texture. How about a twelve dollars Georgians sparkling

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<v Speaker 2>or Jimmy is salty and complex.

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<v Speaker 1>Gwenn's water Menu.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a book with these lengthy descriptions of each water's

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<v Speaker 2>origin and flavor profile. You know how wines have you

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<v Speaker 2>hints of nutmeg and flowers and you can smell diesel

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<v Speaker 2>oil in them or whatever they hell with Some olias

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<v Speaker 2>tell you there are spices notes of same thing with water,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, including bottled water from Australia, Armenia. They also

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<v Speaker 2>serve tap water priced by the glass at zero dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>One of their suggestions, or one of their offerings, is

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<v Speaker 2>tap water from La described as still or sparkling. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where you get sparkling tapwater. I guess you do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a few water companies out there that do sparkling

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<v Speaker 2>water from the city. How much sodium, how much magnesium,

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<v Speaker 2>how much calcium. It's described between sweet and salty, right

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle. There are five different categories as far

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<v Speaker 2>as smooth to complex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am an expert in La city water. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I would have somlier, I said, doesn't taste very good.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a water some alier.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you get that that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>description of yourself? Is that a certified position water some allier?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Muschev, founder of Fine Waters water Cunts, he's a connoisseur,

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<v Speaker 2>became began training people two thousand and six, and now

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<v Speaker 2>by twenty eighteen they were educating hundreds of people worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>Now and of course that exploded. Now the largest water

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<v Speaker 2>menu basically in the world is that oh Lord de

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<v Speaker 2>Leyton a restaurant in Spain. More than one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty waters from thirty three countries.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, get a life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like wine, and they is it as complex as wine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's water. By the way, this is a full.

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<v Speaker 2>Menu we're talking about, and it describes all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>waters and how much sodium and how much calcium. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at one of these from a glacier and

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<v Speaker 2>it's from Canada, and it goes to really complex.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm even gonna go through it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this one has low teds's, which are considered dry

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<v Speaker 2>in the mouth, and that pairs with lighter fair like

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<v Speaker 2>salad or fish. In the meantime, there's an Australian water

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<v Speaker 2>with a TDS I don't even know what that is

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<v Speaker 2>total sodium contact I think, and that's called three bays.

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<v Speaker 2>Its natural pairing is for heavy fat, fatty foods.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to a high end restaurant because this is

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<v Speaker 2>not found a jack in the box. You don't have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the order takers haying how about your fine waters?

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<v Speaker 2>But this thing is actually growing. Now, how many waters

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<v Speaker 2>do we have? What was the first water that we

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<v Speaker 2>had coming in Perier, if I'm not mistaken, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we always had sparklets that you that you drank at

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<v Speaker 2>the water cooler, and then you had Perrier was the

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<v Speaker 2>first foreign water to come in. And now you've got

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Fiji, You've got aquavade.

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<v Speaker 1>What else do you have? How many other waters can

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<v Speaker 1>you think of?

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<v Speaker 2>Amy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't. There are dozens. Yeah, there's tons of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't generally drink anything but regular water.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I drink No, I drink diet coke. So I

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<v Speaker 2>go to restaurants that have twenty five different versions.

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<v Speaker 1>Of diet coke. Oh you know that you have something

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<v Speaker 1>in common with Trump. He was caught drinking a diet

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<v Speaker 1>coke in the Oval yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he like diet coke. I mean he drinks it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's delivered to him on a regular basis. You know

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<v Speaker 2>who else drank diet coke like crazy? Colon Powell was

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Coke better than diet pepsi.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yes, oh yes, god, I hate diet PEPSI.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to a restaurant and you ask for diet coke.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I have a diet coke please? That's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>become a generic. It's like Kleenex. Can I have a

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<v Speaker 2>diet coke?

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<v Speaker 1>Plice? We don't have diet coke? Is diet pepsi? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And I always says monopoly money? Okay, how about the

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<v Speaker 2>real thing. How many times? How many times do you

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<v Speaker 2>walk in the restaurant and they say, and you order

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<v Speaker 2>a diet drink and they say, we have diet coke?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have diet pepsi instead? Nobody asked for that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is correct. Nobody ever does that. Did you say

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<v Speaker 1>Colon Powell? Yeah he did enjoy diet coke? I did

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<v Speaker 1>I know? Yeah he did. Yeah, I did say dead, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he still does even though he's dead. That's beyond life.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something about diet coke that goes beyond your grind.

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<v Speaker 1>FYI when I drink, you know diet or I prefer pepsi?

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle, Michelle, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? What about coke zero? That's even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Europe, for example, and they don't have diet coke.

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<v Speaker 2>All they have is coke zero. It is disgusting. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there is a story out of USA today and I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thought it was fun and there's a new

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<v Speaker 2>dating term called throning. Now what is throning, Well, it

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<v Speaker 2>actually makes sense. It means you're dating someone to raise

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<v Speaker 2>your social status, and the goal is to land a

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<v Speaker 2>partner with clout, so your image gets a boost by

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<v Speaker 2>association with that person.

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<v Speaker 1>You are throned. And it's not shrekking.

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<v Speaker 2>That's involved dating down in the hopes that a person

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<v Speaker 2>will treat you better in return. Sort of you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you marry down.

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<v Speaker 1>And not up.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has nothing to do with money, because usually

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<v Speaker 2>you marry up not so much for status, or certainly

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<v Speaker 2>not uniquely for status.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about status. And so one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>TikTokers who looks at this and everybody looks at everything,

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<v Speaker 2>he says, if a person seems overly focused on your

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<v Speaker 2>status or social circle changes their behavior towards you, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on whether you're in public or private. That is throwning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's gone by different names in the past, like

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<v Speaker 2>goal digging, but that's about money clout chasing. That's more

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<v Speaker 2>like throwning. So people aren't just dating people for their

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<v Speaker 2>money or power. How about this dating people for the

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<v Speaker 2>followers and online influence that your new relationship has. Hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a dating coach and the author of Unsingle,

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<v Speaker 2>How to Date Smarter and Create Love at Last. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna read that book, that's for sure, and says

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<v Speaker 2>the rise of throwing reflects the growing focus on self

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<v Speaker 2>image and external validation. Who the hell has any self

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<v Speaker 2>image anymore? Explain that one to me. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>are only a self image and self esteem. There are

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<v Speaker 2>only two kinds of people in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>People who.

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<v Speaker 2>Say they have self image and liars, both of them

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<v Speaker 2>being the same one. Because no one has self image

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<v Speaker 2>and if you do, oh you're lying to yourself now.

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<v Speaker 2>Some want love and status and money.

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<v Speaker 1>You score on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I've had so many women in my life

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<v Speaker 2>throw themselves at me because they want love, they want status,

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<v Speaker 2>they want money, they want a guy with a big sponts.

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<v Speaker 2>They want all the things that a normal person would want,

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<v Speaker 2>and you get from me, right right. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how many compromises Lindsay has had to make. I

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<v Speaker 2>would do a segment or two or three on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So throning basically elevates your image and bottom line, it's

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<v Speaker 2>simply about dating up.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you've often heard that phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>She or he is out of your class and if

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<v Speaker 2>the throwing trend has you uneasy and this is or

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<v Speaker 2>one of the experts, I guess there are new experts

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<v Speaker 2>on throwing. The best thing to do is communicate with

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<v Speaker 2>your partner about it. Start a conversation. Isn't everything about communicating?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't everything about having a conversation with your partner, starting

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<v Speaker 2>with please put down that AX. We really have to

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