Speaker 1: Hey, howdy, Hello, and welcome to the last Nightcap of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Here on seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff
Speaker 1: Walker reporting for duty. And as you know if you've
Speaker 1: listened to me for a while, I love celebrating birthdays.
Speaker 1: I love celebrating my birthday on The Willie Show last
Speaker 1: Monday on the twenty second, but I really love celebrating
Speaker 1: other people's birthdays. And that's why every Saturday morning, when
Speaker 1: I open up my Saturday Morning edition around five point
Speaker 1: thirty five, I start the show with a list of history,
Speaker 1: news and notes tied to that particular date, including birthdays
Speaker 1: that you know of people you may know. And sometimes
Speaker 1: there were birthdays people that I know, people that listen
Speaker 1: and they request a shout out, and I'm more than
Speaker 1: happy to indulge that and to celebrate that special day
Speaker 1: with them. Whomever it is, it's celebrating the anniversary of
Speaker 1: their birth, the anniversary of the day that God put
Speaker 1: them on this earth. And tonight I'm opening this show
Speaker 1: by saying Happy birthday to Ron and Rick Pisqually. No,
Speaker 1: they're not married, except for the fact that they are
Speaker 1: identical twins and they are both friends of mine and today,
Speaker 1: on December thirtieth, they are celebrating another banner year of existence.
Speaker 1: And I tell you what couldn't find two friendlier guys.
Speaker 1: Two guys are more fun to be around, and I
Speaker 1: want to thank them for all they've done for me
Speaker 1: through the years coming to the bar. And by the way,
Speaker 1: this Thursday, on New Year's Day, will be celebrating a
Speaker 1: new year at Huddles, the place where I sling drinks
Speaker 1: for Hillbillies and others. And hopefully you at some point
Speaker 1: or another in the coming year. But I encourage you
Speaker 1: to come out on Thursday on New Year's Day to
Speaker 1: Watson Football with us, to meet the Pasqually brothers and
Speaker 1: belatedly celebrate their birthday with a beer or whatever whatever
Speaker 1: it is you choose to imbibe in. If nothing, the
Speaker 1: ice water is delicious and pure at Huddles. Well, that
Speaker 1: kind of brings to mind another thing. This could be
Speaker 1: the last hurrah for bars like Huddles. You know, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five has been a really tough year for hospitality
Speaker 1: businesses all over the Trice, all over the country. Really,
Speaker 1: people's habits have changed. You remember famously, another Newport tavern,
Speaker 1: the Mansion Hill Tavern, nearly closed in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: because of rising insurance costs and all kinds of other
Speaker 1: obstacles that small business owners are facing these days. It
Speaker 1: took a go Fundme page to revive and keep this
Speaker 1: icon open, which is a haven for great blues music
Speaker 1: and live music and their fans. Their patrons pushed them
Speaker 1: over the line and kept them afloat. I'm hoping you'd
Speaker 1: do the same thing for us at six twenty eight
Speaker 1: Mama Street. But Thursday at noon we will be open
Speaker 1: New Year's Day. Come by, say hello at least and
Speaker 1: wish the Pasqually brothers a very happy birthday. On tonight's show,
Speaker 1: Chris Horr, who is with SAT one two three, which
Speaker 1: is a communications company that Fame Lee helped in floodeds,
Speaker 1: floods and hurricanes with communication for people. You know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't just Elon Musk. But Chris Horror is going to
Speaker 1: be here to tell you how to prepare your family
Speaker 1: for the emergencies that may lie ahead in the new year.
Speaker 1: Hope you'll join us for that. We will do a
Speaker 1: replay of last Saturday's Rock and Roll Archaeology, the last
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five with Jim Lebarber, the music Professor.
Speaker 2: Around nine thirty five or so.
Speaker 1: Just after ten o'clock is Eric Weir, who is a
Speaker 1: financial guru that you may not have heard.
Speaker 2: Of before, and he is.
Speaker 1: He's something else coming up in ten thirty five day
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter with a little tech talk leading into the
Speaker 1: new year. At eleven oh five, it's an hour of
Speaker 1: sports for the out of sorts, including our friend the
Speaker 1: fur Ball, Andy Furman, who has been with us all
Speaker 1: year long, and Dennis the wild Man Walker no relation.
Speaker 1: I swear so a fur Ball and the wild just
Speaker 1: after eleven o'clock, and Chris Horr is next that spelled
Speaker 1: hoaar on this last nightcap of the year on seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW. As I mentioned, our first guest on this
Speaker 1: last show of twenty twenty five is a disaster response
Speaker 1: Telecom national security spokesperson for SAT one two three, Chris Horn.
Speaker 1: And as we head into twenty twenty six, the dangers
Speaker 1: that are out there in cyberspace and to your privacy
Speaker 1: and everything else, the onset of AI and everything else
Speaker 1: that is going on in our world now, how to
Speaker 1: be prepared and how to face those challenges for yourself
Speaker 1: personally as a business person, your family, Chris Horror, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Nightcap.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 4: I'm good, So thanks for having me on today.
Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about Set one two three.
Speaker 1: Again we've had a couple of guests, I believe, including you,
Speaker 1: on this particular topic. But real quickly Set one two three.
Speaker 1: What do they do and how are they helping people
Speaker 1: prepare well?
Speaker 4: Sat one two three dot com. We provide emergency backup
Speaker 4: communications for when the disasters strike and when the inevitable happens,
Speaker 4: you lose power and so on. We provide satellite phone,
Speaker 4: satellite internet units, and solar power portable generators to make
Speaker 4: sure that you can stay connected and stay warm during
Speaker 4: the next emergency event.
Speaker 1: Solar power generators do you guys? Obviously you're you're providing
Speaker 1: them or selling them. What does the advantage over say
Speaker 1: a gas powered or natural gas powered generator.
Speaker 4: Well, when the supply chain gets disrupted by a natural
Speaker 4: disaster or something west like a terrorist event, what you
Speaker 4: see is you see gas sales. Gas supplies brian out
Speaker 4: at your local gas station, your local hubway store. Because
Speaker 4: most businesses these days operated just in time delivery system,
Speaker 4: whereby they only keep free to five days worth of
Speaker 4: goods on hand because they know they'll have another.
Speaker 5: Shipment coming in.
Speaker 4: But when those shipments stop, you're not going to be
Speaker 4: able to get or you can have to pay more
Speaker 4: for the gas use of that generator, whereas solar power
Speaker 4: generators don't require anything like that. You set them up,
Speaker 4: you point the panels upward, and you have basically unending, limitless.
Speaker 2: Energy as long as the sun shining, right.
Speaker 4: As long as the sun shining, and of course the
Speaker 4: battery backups store power over night for when the sun
Speaker 4: goes out, and so these things can be used to
Speaker 4: the small devices for under hundred bucks. Can be used
Speaker 4: to power your smaller devices, phone staff, phone stuff like
Speaker 4: that starlink units. Bigger devices can power your entire house,
Speaker 4: including all your lights and all your heating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that I would worry about, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest things I would be concerned with, is like
Speaker 1: a refrigerator. You've got your food supply there, you know,
Speaker 1: so you've got electricity to have a you know, a
Speaker 1: light on or powering your phone or communication device, but
Speaker 1: you don't have enough power to keep your food from
Speaker 1: going bad. That would be important, So you need one
Speaker 1: of those larger kind of systems for something like that.
Speaker 1: There's a report out that artificial intelligence is the new
Speaker 1: Cold War between the United States and particularly Communists. China
Speaker 1: claims that the new technology is the twenty first centuries
Speaker 1: Cold War, warning that the Chinese Communist Party is on
Speaker 1: the cusp of becoming the world's leader in AI. There
Speaker 1: is a great battle as to who will be the
Speaker 1: leader in artificial intelligence? Do United States still have a
Speaker 1: chance to overcome what China has done?
Speaker 4: Chris, Yeah, Look, I mean there's pluses and minuses on
Speaker 4: both sides of this. When it comes to China specifically,
Speaker 4: you know, they've they've seen this coming for a while,
Speaker 4: and that they've secured a sixty percent of the mining
Speaker 4: of rare earth elements that are needed to make and
Speaker 4: run AI data centers into power AI chips and so on,
Speaker 4: and they control about ninety percent of the manufacturing of
Speaker 4: that stuff as well. But the United States has maintained
Speaker 4: it's leadership when it comes to the development of AI
Speaker 4: programs and lms, So you know, it's six to one
Speaker 4: help dozen to the other. But I think what we
Speaker 4: should be worried about is China's heavy investment in electricity
Speaker 4: production and distribution badly seem to have an edge over
Speaker 4: ourself power grade unfortunately the whole, and not really ready
Speaker 4: to handle the kind of capacity that's going to be
Speaker 4: needed within the next few years to keep our AI
Speaker 4: growth going well.
Speaker 1: You know, part of the reason that China has maintained
Speaker 1: this ability to have great capacity for energy and electricity
Speaker 1: is because while they were insisting that the rest of
Speaker 1: the world rely on wind and solar, they were building
Speaker 1: coal fired and they still are building coal fired power
Speaker 1: plants many a week in China, while you know, they
Speaker 1: were talking about the West needing to reduce that with
Speaker 1: the Green New Deal stuff that was going on in
Speaker 1: this country, which is no longer going on at the
Speaker 1: rate it was, and the mandates are done thanks to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Do you feel like the United States has
Speaker 1: turned a corner when it comes to providing as much
Speaker 1: power and energy as we need to. One of the
Speaker 1: initiatives that President Trump has with the new AI data
Speaker 1: centers is that they become their own power plants, and
Speaker 1: they're using nuclear, they're using solar. It's an all in
Speaker 1: kind of approach now where the emphasis was just on
Speaker 1: wind and solar with the previous administration.
Speaker 2: Do you would agree or disagree?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean certainly some of that is I
Speaker 4: would agree with. I would also point out that, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: last the US developed next generation clear technology in the
Speaker 4: sixties and seventies, we just as quickly abandoned that, and
Speaker 4: when that information became declassified, China picked it up and
Speaker 4: ran with it and started making and producing more efficient
Speaker 4: nuclear power with less waste. And this is again technology
Speaker 4: we created didn't follow through on because of the you know,
Speaker 4: kind of pushback against nuclear in the seventies. But things
Speaker 4: like fossbree to react as molten salt core reactors are
Speaker 4: far more efficient, produce more power and less input and
Speaker 4: less waste. So yeah, on both sides of this, you know,
Speaker 4: China is you know, is searching ahead. And of course
Speaker 4: the CCP doesn't have to worry about regulations or environmental restrictions.
Speaker 4: They will do whatever they see as best for themselves
Speaker 4: and for their country, so they don't have to worry
Speaker 4: about what anyone else thinks. So you know, in that regard,
Speaker 4: they certainly have an edge there and are producing more
Speaker 4: power more efficiently and now.
Speaker 1: And Europe is certainly behind the eight ball on this
Speaker 1: because they abandon almost everything that wasn't part of the
Speaker 1: UNS push and the Paris climate talks and all of
Speaker 1: this other garbage. And now they're starting to realize, hey,
Speaker 1: we need to build some nuclear reactors again, we need
Speaker 1: to open those, We need to have more fossil fuel
Speaker 1: production of energy. But Europe is really behind the eight ball,
Speaker 1: aren't they. And that's why it's a race between United
Speaker 1: States and communist China.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think you're correct in that. I would
Speaker 4: say that what we should be doing is putting more
Speaker 4: resources and effort into innovation, things like photonic STIPs that
Speaker 4: require less power to run these data centers, you know,
Speaker 4: so we can innovate our way out of some of this.
Speaker 4: But either way, we're going to need a modern power
Speaker 4: grid that can handle the kind of high capacity that's
Speaker 4: going to be needed. So it's one thing to generate
Speaker 4: the electricity, but if we can't move it, it's not
Speaker 4: going to really matter. So, you know, the President did
Speaker 4: sign the Genesis Initiative, is an executive order that puts
Speaker 4: a lot more focus and effort to this, and the
Speaker 4: Department of Energy is in charge of that effort. So
Speaker 4: you know, we you know, we might be playing catch
Speaker 4: up but you know the game isn't over yet.
Speaker 2: No, it's going to be.
Speaker 1: The report stated that the race for AI dominance will
Speaker 1: be one or lost in the next five years, So
Speaker 1: twenty thirty is really a target date to see who
Speaker 1: wins this race right now?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the CCP runs on these five year
Speaker 4: plans and the latest one just started this year and
Speaker 4: ends to twenty thirty, and their stated goal by twenty
Speaker 4: thirty is to dominate AI worldwide. And that's not just
Speaker 4: the production of the chips and so on, but it's
Speaker 4: also about the setting the standards. They want to set
Speaker 4: the standards for everyone. Here in the US we've longed
Speaker 4: for a long time, we've set the standards and controlled
Speaker 4: them on when it comes to electronics. But China, you know,
Speaker 4: paid attention to that, and now they want to make
Speaker 4: sure that they control the standards, the global standards for AI.
Speaker 4: And to go along with that, they're producing millions of
Speaker 4: new gadgets and so on that are all run with
Speaker 4: their AI said to those standards, and they're flooding the
Speaker 4: marketplace and the flood in the world with that. So
Speaker 4: you know, we need to be paying attention to an
Speaker 4: opal lot here, but certainly in the next five years,
Speaker 4: you know, there's going to be a lot of change
Speaker 4: and the race it may or may not be over,
Speaker 4: but we can't afford to take our eye off the
Speaker 4: ball and up for a second.
Speaker 1: So AI is not going away anytime soon. However, it
Speaker 1: is not the end all be all. I have a
Speaker 1: friend who is a tech talker who will be on
Speaker 1: tonight's program a little bit later named Dave Hatter here locally,
Speaker 1: and he said, there are still tremendous problems with AI,
Speaker 1: and the fact that it's going to take over everything
Speaker 1: is It's kind of not necessarily true because there are
Speaker 1: serious problems still with artificial intelligence, but you see it
Speaker 1: going unabated and being the dominant force in human life
Speaker 1: in the next ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to give
Speaker 4: you a full prediction that's worth much, but I will
Speaker 4: say that certainly, you know there are problems. I mean,
Speaker 4: anyone any business owner who tried to implement you know,
Speaker 4: AI kind of as far as taking over various departments
Speaker 4: or systems will also have seen the problems that come
Speaker 4: with that. Even fast food drive through restaurants that have
Speaker 4: tried to use AI to take orders of had problems.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there are some very fundamental flaws with AI,
Speaker 4: and I don't I think you know, when the Industrial
Speaker 4: Revolution happened, everyone was like, oh, there's going to be
Speaker 4: no notable need for people, and you know, machines are
Speaker 4: going to run everything. It's like, yeah, there was certainly
Speaker 4: a shift in the workforce and the kind of jobs
Speaker 4: people did, and I think we're going to see that
Speaker 4: with AI. But you know, I think we need to
Speaker 4: be very careful about putting a AI in charge of
Speaker 4: vital systems and UH and weapons and defense. And you
Speaker 4: tell these when we don't fully understand how it works
Speaker 4: and why it makes decisions and why it makes bad decisions.
Speaker 4: Even the create you know, the so creator or godfather
Speaker 4: of AI, Jeffrey Hinton, I will tell you that that
Speaker 4: he doesn't believe that we fully understand how these these
Speaker 4: systems operate, how they make decisions, or why.
Speaker 5: And if we don't.
Speaker 4: Understand that, then putting them in charge of vital infrastructure
Speaker 4: and nuclear power generation and weapons is something we should
Speaker 4: be very careful about. And I also don't believe that
Speaker 4: the people making these decisions, the politicians, know anything more
Speaker 4: than anyone else, maybe even less. So we've got to
Speaker 4: be very careful.
Speaker 2: Here here here.
Speaker 1: I agree with that last statement, Chris, how heavily invested
Speaker 1: in AIS SAT one two three.
Speaker 4: Well, we, like other businesses, you know, are using it,
Speaker 4: but with caution. You know, it certainly can you know, uh,
Speaker 4: take over you know, kind of very basic operations or
Speaker 4: even complex ones. It can help with research and so on,
Speaker 4: but you know, we keep the human element very much involved.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't trust what we don't fully understand. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, so we use it, but we use it cautiously, trust,
Speaker 4: but verify as our motive.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Any recommendations for twenty twenty six, so, I know we
Speaker 1: talked about having some kind of generator power that's off
Speaker 1: the grid, particularly solar. Any other kind of predictions for
Speaker 1: the year ahead, Chris.
Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, I think we're going to see more kind
Speaker 4: of attacks, more cyber warfare, more cyber crime. Earlier, you
Speaker 4: said that people are calling us the Cold War. I
Speaker 4: see it's very much a hot war, you know, just
Speaker 4: because we can't necessarily see it like you can see
Speaker 4: moments of troops and battleships and so on, the amount
Speaker 4: of attacks against the US government and US companies, the
Speaker 4: US individuals increases daily made more efficient unfortunately by AI.
Speaker 4: And we've just got to be very, very careful. You know,
Speaker 4: when you get a message from a company that looks
Speaker 4: like it's from them, and you know it sounds like
Speaker 4: it's from them, you know, be very careful because it's
Speaker 4: so easy to generate full websites that might look like
Speaker 4: a Google or an Apple or you know, utility company.
Speaker 4: But look at the r L. You know, you've just
Speaker 4: got to be more and more capful. And just because
Speaker 4: you might get a phone call from someone that sounds
Speaker 4: like your boss, it might be AI generated, you know,
Speaker 4: so you've just got to unfortunately beyond God more than ever.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll definitely be on guard for an AI generated
Speaker 1: Chris Horr.
Speaker 4: You're already took me to him.
Speaker 1: Damn I was duped again. Chris Horror from SAT one
Speaker 1: two three dot com. Thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time and happy New Year, sir.
Speaker 5: Thanks mate, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Archaeology a replay from last Saturday, coming
Speaker 1: up afternoons here on seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Nightcap on seven hundred w L W GJ. Dubbs
Speaker 1: in for another couple of hours here and in this
Speaker 1: hour somebody I probably should have talked to you about
Speaker 1: twenty years ago when I had more opportunities, say to
Speaker 1: grow my wealth, what little there is of it. This
Speaker 1: is one of the most successful and sought after financial
Speaker 1: advisors anywhere in the country, and he took insights and
Speaker 1: tools he uses and puts him into a book that's
Speaker 1: out now. I love the title of the book too,
Speaker 1: Who's Eating Your Pie? Essential financial advice that will transform
Speaker 1: your life without any further ado, Eric Weir, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: How are you.
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: By the way, I found out in doing my research
Speaker 1: for this interview that you had a like a lifelong stutter,
Speaker 1: and yet you still were able to overcome it.
Speaker 2: I mean, number one, how did you overcome that? Eric?
Speaker 7: So I went to speech therapy at age five after
Speaker 7: a car wreck and a brain injury, and they said, well,
Speaker 7: that's going to be hard, Eric. Odds are you'll be
Speaker 7: a failure and reclusive and you won't amount to much
Speaker 7: because you're not going to want to take You're not
Speaker 7: going to want to engage in conversation, but that was
Speaker 7: really a setup.
Speaker 3: And then when she said, are you could view every
Speaker 3: obstacle as.
Speaker 7: An opportunity and learn to navigate those challenges, and you'll
Speaker 7: overcome more obstacles than most people do in a lifetime
Speaker 7: by the time you're eighteen. So that's how she framed it,
Speaker 7: and from age five, I've had that mindset. Every setback
Speaker 7: is an opportunity, every obstacle's an opportunity, every economic difficulty
Speaker 7: is an opportunity.
Speaker 3: How can I solve it?
Speaker 7: So that from birth almost has been my mindset, and
Speaker 7: that's been a big reframing that I do actually.
Speaker 3: Almost on a daily basis. And then ultimately, at age forty,
Speaker 3: I got over through gratitude.
Speaker 7: I was hearing a pastor talked about, hey, be grateful
Speaker 7: for what challenges you have, and I like it was
Speaker 7: a church service, and like I knew that Paul had.
Speaker 3: Asked for whatever.
Speaker 7: Throwing his flesh to be removed twice and got s
Speaker 7: his my grace.
Speaker 3: Is sufficient, So I'm I gotta want that answer.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of mad, right, I'll be deal with this
Speaker 7: for thirty five years, and I just thank God for
Speaker 7: the stutter And it wasn't overnight, but over maybe three
Speaker 7: years it went away. And I think what happened is
Speaker 7: I quit fearing.
Speaker 3: Interaction.
Speaker 7: I quit anticipating this stutter, waiting for it, and.
Speaker 3: I just said, that's just who I am.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna roll with it. If I stutter, I stuttered,
Speaker 7: and I'm just gonna keep going. And at that point,
Speaker 7: that change of mindset is what really transferred my life.
Speaker 1: And that is basically a premise for everything that you
Speaker 1: teach now and you instruct people now, because we're all
Speaker 1: we're all encountering obstacles no matter what we do or
Speaker 1: what we have to work with. And you know, I've
Speaker 1: got a producer here at the station. I asked him
Speaker 1: all the time, and I've learned to stop asking him.
Speaker 2: I said, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3: Liam?
Speaker 1: He goes, best day of my life so far? He said,
Speaker 1: I pray for adversity. I said, yeah, I bet.
Speaker 3: I can tell you I don't do that. I get
Speaker 3: enough without having asked for it.
Speaker 1: So you are letting people in on the keys to
Speaker 1: what you teach and what you help people with your
Speaker 1: in who's eating your.
Speaker 7: Pie no matter where you are. If you've had a
Speaker 7: bad divorce, you've had a financial setback, bankruptcy, you know.
Speaker 3: Loss of any kind.
Speaker 7: There's hope for you, right, and you've got to start
Speaker 7: from a point of your gratitude from where you are.
Speaker 3: You don't make rass decisions.
Speaker 7: You take time and you get strategic, you get clarity,
Speaker 7: but then you take action. And when you take action
Speaker 7: doesn't always work like you plan it. You just just
Speaker 7: reevaluate and take more actions. The idea is slow, progressive
Speaker 7: change instead of a rapid result.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies, especially this time of year's
Speaker 1: probably my top favorite movie is It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 1: And there's a scene where there's the run on the
Speaker 1: bank and then the building and loan is under siege
Speaker 1: because you know, the financial picture is so bleak, and
Speaker 1: the character George Bailey played by Jimmy Stewart tells this
Speaker 1: group of people in his building and loan office when
Speaker 1: they're begging for money their money. He says, Potter isn't selling,
Speaker 1: he's buying, and why because we're panicking and he's not.
Speaker 1: So it's very key what you just said there to
Speaker 1: not panic, right.
Speaker 7: No, you just you just can't panic, and you've got to.
Speaker 3: You've got to realize that the ninety nine percent.
Speaker 7: People are going to panic if you make decisions out
Speaker 7: of fear.
Speaker 5: They're there.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything that worked out well.
Speaker 7: And what I would tell people just just avoid fear mongering,
Speaker 7: just you know, just think about you know your real
Speaker 7: results and and you know the economies is where it is.
Speaker 7: It's improving no matter where you are in your life
Speaker 7: or in your career, or just got to lay it off.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't panic.
Speaker 7: It doesn't help you get clarity, Take time, think, and
Speaker 7: then take action.
Speaker 1: We've all been told, or at least some of of
Speaker 1: us have been told, that the love of money is
Speaker 1: the root of all evil. Is it moral to want
Speaker 1: to build well for yourself?
Speaker 2: I think it's.
Speaker 3: I think it's let me reframe that.
Speaker 7: If I want to build it to live a lifestyle that's,
Speaker 7: you know, that's harmful to myself and others, then that's
Speaker 7: probably not a great idea. If I want to build
Speaker 7: it to a lifestyle that helps others, it helps myself
Speaker 7: to help others and help other people, and I think
Speaker 7: that's fine.
Speaker 3: So I think I think the biggest deal is is
Speaker 3: you know what's your purpose?
Speaker 7: You know, I can say just just something simple.
Speaker 3: I want to get to get a good shape for
Speaker 3: my health.
Speaker 7: Or you can say I want to get a good
Speaker 7: shame to show my ex they shouldn't have gotten rid
Speaker 7: of me. Right, they're they're both to get in good shape.
Speaker 7: But there's there's different motivation. One's a great motivation, others,
Speaker 7: you know, maybe not so much.
Speaker 1: Right, So, where where does philanthropy Where where does philanthropy
Speaker 1: fit into well building?
Speaker 3: That's a good question because you just you just.
Speaker 2: Talked about using wealth to help other people.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is critical because you even if you're even
Speaker 7: if you have nothing like no dollars, go volunteer a
Speaker 7: half day of the shelter.
Speaker 3: It'll change your life.
Speaker 7: You'll read, You'll you'll you'll be covered up with gratitude
Speaker 7: your current situation.
Speaker 3: That's number one. Number two.
Speaker 7: As you make resources, give some away, it does two things.
Speaker 7: It gives It removes the poverty mindset that so many
Speaker 7: of us are under for the lack of the scarcity.
Speaker 3: If I can give a dollar to.
Speaker 7: Somebody not name me, and expect nothing back in return
Speaker 7: except trying to help them in their situation, I am
Speaker 7: giving away my fear of scarcity in that very moment.
Speaker 7: I'm no longer afraid of black. And second that just
Speaker 7: frees you know, whatever you believe in, it's just what
Speaker 7: comes around goes around.
Speaker 3: And the Bible says, you know, it's the only way.
Speaker 7: To to too, to challenge me. You know, see how
Speaker 7: how I am. If you're you know, you're you're you're
Speaker 7: giving them tithes and offering. So so, yeah, doesn't have
Speaker 7: to be sure. It's gonna be people that doesn't marry
Speaker 7: your faith, your religion. But it is a principle that
Speaker 7: just works.
Speaker 3: It for sure, if you give.
Speaker 7: Money away, you you begin to lose your fear of black.
Speaker 7: And second it begins to to build up h you.
Speaker 3: Know, uh, if you want to use the word car
Speaker 3: but I want to.
Speaker 7: Use it comes back to you.
Speaker 1: No, you know the Bible, what's the Bible say, It'll
Speaker 1: be returned to you tenfold, you know, shaking.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 7: Yeah, restore houses will be fall and running over.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, that's that's the fact I've experienced in
Speaker 3: my own life.
Speaker 7: I've known I know a person who gives away fifty
Speaker 7: percent of what they.
Speaker 8: Make every year, and every three years.
Speaker 7: They tripled for the last thirty years, and now they
Speaker 7: give you way over a billion and now they give
Speaker 7: way over a billion years and it's a big organization.
Speaker 3: But I mean it's it's just in us.
Speaker 7: It's we We don't want to do that, right, And
Speaker 7: you don't have the it's started a little bit. You
Speaker 7: don't have the start of the big number. But it
Speaker 7: says in the word test me and see. That's the
Speaker 7: only thing in scripts, the test me, test me and see.
Speaker 1: You have helped a lot of people build wealth and
Speaker 1: grow from recording stars to professional athletes. How do you
Speaker 1: how do you help somebody who is not in that
Speaker 1: pay grade, like like somebody like me?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, you just take a step back.
Speaker 7: I mean I can if I if I sat down
Speaker 7: there and say, hey, do you have a self storage
Speaker 7: in it? Maybe the answer is yes, maybe it's no,
Speaker 7: But it's one hundred and fifty bucks a month from
Speaker 7: Why don't you figure out how to sell that on
Speaker 7: on a Facebook marketplace?
Speaker 3: Get out of the cut that expense? You know, do
Speaker 3: you do you spend money? Do you go.
Speaker 7: Through your your automatic renewals?
Speaker 3: You have HBO Showtime, You've got these other do you
Speaker 3: need all those?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 7: That's you know, thirty dollars a month and just kind
Speaker 7: of look and see you. Now, you can't save your
Speaker 7: way rich, right, but you can begin to cut expenses
Speaker 7: a little bit, and then you redirect What if I
Speaker 7: redirected that to an S and P five hundred index fund.
Speaker 7: What if I redirected that to investing and launching my
Speaker 7: own business. What if I took time that I'm just
Speaker 7: watching television or I'm watching the Instagram or TikTok, and
Speaker 7: and I do a side hustle of some sort. Right,
Speaker 7: So a lot of times people are just one side hustle.
Speaker 3: Away from changing their life.
Speaker 1: The stock market has been reaching record highs recently, and
Speaker 1: it looks like there's really no sign of it slowing
Speaker 1: anytime soon. I almost kind of regarded the stock market
Speaker 1: in general as a big giant casino.
Speaker 3: Am I sure?
Speaker 2: Am I thinking of it the wrong way you are?
Speaker 7: And what I would say is it goes in cycles,
Speaker 7: and I We've had a great cycle now, So that
Speaker 7: means most people going, hey, I want to get in
Speaker 7: ten great years. Well, it's maybe you got to think
Speaker 7: long term because after up phases or sideways phases, down phases,
Speaker 7: all that happens. So if you if you put money
Speaker 7: in the market. You really got to think, you know
Speaker 7: more than ten years and if you and you don't
Speaker 7: want to look at it, but just do it, buying
Speaker 7: high by low by all the time, and you'll work
Speaker 7: out what you're effectively doing. If you're buy an index fund,
Speaker 7: is you're buying in the top us companies, You're buying Facebook, Google, Amazon,
Speaker 7: You're buying all these So you want to make sure
Speaker 7: that you're that you're you know, you're you're taking a
Speaker 7: long term approach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, real estate that goes up and down. Two, we're
Speaker 1: in the middle of this era where the prices I
Speaker 1: think are really inflated. Man, they're they are way way
Speaker 1: higher than they were they were five years ago. And
Speaker 1: there's certainly I think in many cases overvalued right now.
Speaker 1: And we could face another another bubble that bursts very soon,
Speaker 1: couldn't we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been through. You got a real estate Livenince.
Speaker 7: I was eighteen, so it's nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3: I've been through. I don't know how many.
Speaker 7: Bubble bursts and they happened, but I can tell you
Speaker 7: is there's nothing from nineteen eighty five that seemed overvalue,
Speaker 7: that's overvalued now.
Speaker 3: There's nothing from two thousand.
Speaker 7: When the tech bubble or two thousand and one popped,
Speaker 7: that was that was overvalued and went down forty percent.
Speaker 7: That even if from US highs overvalued. Now there's nothing
Speaker 7: from two thousand and nine to ten when that popped
Speaker 7: and things went down.
Speaker 3: Even before the highs, it's overvalued now.
Speaker 7: So you got to keep in mind the dollar loses
Speaker 7: half its value every fifteen years, so real estate, if
Speaker 7: it just keeps up with inflation, will go up fifty
Speaker 7: the next fifteen years. And that's that's it. So now
Speaker 7: are their pockets one hundred percent agree? Are there scarcity
Speaker 7: and there are more buyers and sellers?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: I agree, our interest rates up making home affordability more difficult.
Speaker 7: I agree. Oh those are true. But the whole idea
Speaker 7: is timing. So if it's long if you're playing the
Speaker 7: long term game, the short term doesn't matter as much.
Speaker 7: And that's the biggest thing. I want people to think. Perspective,
Speaker 7: not perfection. Perspective is I want to be a homeowner
Speaker 7: for the long term.
Speaker 3: Okay, how do you figure that out?
Speaker 7: And you know, I've bought homes at the top of
Speaker 7: the market before you know, and it worked out in
Speaker 7: one case, is my best investment seven years was underwater
Speaker 7: seven years, and then the area took.
Speaker 3: Off and it doubled in like the next five you know.
Speaker 7: So it's hard to it's just interesting to see. But
Speaker 7: it's just it's it's it's time in these markets. It's
Speaker 7: not timing, and many of us think we can time
Speaker 7: the markets, but it's just so difficult to do.
Speaker 2: How important is entrepreneurship in building wealth to you?
Speaker 5: For me?
Speaker 7: For me, it's it's it's how I'm wired, So it's
Speaker 7: critical I can build both quicker as an entrepreneur starting
Speaker 7: business or creating value than anything else I've tried. Not
Speaker 7: everyone is wired like that or even cares to do
Speaker 7: like that. There's entrepreneurship carries risk and a lot of
Speaker 7: things that maybe an employee does not do. An employee
Speaker 7: carries risks too, But I would say if you're an entrepreneur,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of things to try. If you're an
Speaker 7: employee and you look at the four oh one K
Speaker 7: plans if offered, and if you're an employee with a
Speaker 7: stable job.
Speaker 3: And you're you're still tight, figure out.
Speaker 7: A side housele you can do, you know, just just
Speaker 7: just something to create value for you.
Speaker 3: Over the long home.
Speaker 2: And if you're a salary too, it's just it's just
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 8: I mean, dude.
Speaker 7: For example, if I if I was, you know, home
Speaker 7: this week, and you know that their Christmas lights out,
Speaker 7: I hate taking that stuff down. Uh. And if you have,
Speaker 7: if you don't have a Facebook marketplace, I take down
Speaker 7: Christmas lights. You go to the house, look at out
Speaker 7: for how dollars they'll take down your life's two hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Whatever the number is, right, put.
Speaker 7: Away your tree, grind it up for you. It's a number, right.
Speaker 7: And if you're doing it, you have a pickup truck,
Speaker 7: your real cost is just your time and and field
Speaker 7: field gallons of gas. Everything else's profit. So there's always
Speaker 7: something to do, and there's there's always an.
Speaker 1: Opportunity, and there's plenty to do that AI cannot do
Speaker 1: my word.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely, And.
Speaker 7: And really you know there's opportunity everywhere.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to Eric Weir when you hear
Speaker 1: the term rich being rich, what does that mean to you?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 7: Rich is really all about uh, it's individual, right, So
Speaker 7: I think I think a rich life would be somebody
Speaker 7: who has, uh, the relationships.
Speaker 3: They care about are still in their life, right. I
Speaker 3: think that's a rich life.
Speaker 7: Ultimately, I think a rich life is living a life
Speaker 7: that honors God.
Speaker 3: That's a rich life.
Speaker 7: I think that beyond you're talking about money, that's different.
Speaker 3: It's like whatever's comfortable.
Speaker 7: I know a bartender in New York who's married, loves
Speaker 7: talking to new people every night, He's made a good living,
Speaker 7: has a nice apartment, and he's thrilled. So that's a
Speaker 7: rich man from a fancier perspective, and in my view,
Speaker 7: based on what his objectives are. You know, So it's
Speaker 7: just what are your objectives and what are you looking for?
Speaker 7: And it's really different for everybody. Doesn't have to be
Speaker 7: a number. It's really it's it's a lifestyle and and
Speaker 7: doesn't meet your expectations.
Speaker 1: The book is Who's Eating Your Pie? Essential financial advice.
Speaker 1: It will transform your life. And I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: this this conversation has really opened my eyes a little
Speaker 1: bit too, because I'm just a schlve. I have my
Speaker 1: I have faith in God, I have a I have
Speaker 1: a Christian faith, and uh, you pointed to a lot
Speaker 1: of those kind of things that have helped you and
Speaker 1: can help others if they're so inclined. What what's one
Speaker 1: piece of advice from the Bible that you would recommend
Speaker 1: when it comes to building wealth overall.
Speaker 2: We've kind of talked about a few of those.
Speaker 7: Don't worry about tomorrow because tomorrow has enough to concerns
Speaker 7: for itself.
Speaker 3: That's as one of.
Speaker 1: My favorite I used that in a conversation with somebody
Speaker 1: just yesterday as a matter of fact.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: If the Bible mentions money over fifteen hundred times, it
Speaker 7: mentions love half that many times.
Speaker 3: So it's important.
Speaker 7: It's important, or it wouldn't be becovered so much. But
Speaker 7: it's just you know, it starts with gratitude. If you
Speaker 7: believe you don't own anything, you come.
Speaker 3: With this role with nothing, you leave with nothing. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a great way to start.
Speaker 7: And then if you can help people along the way
Speaker 7: and create wealth for yourself and those around you, that's fantastic.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: But relationships are really of value. I've met billionaires they
Speaker 7: had no relationships and they were.
Speaker 3: Not happy people.
Speaker 1: Oh I know, yeah, same way here, Eric, we are
Speaker 1: a real pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: time and the happy new year. I know twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six has got a lot of obstacles and you say
Speaker 1: that means a lot of promise, right, it does.
Speaker 6: I'm ready fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, great luck with the book too. Who's eating your pie?
Speaker 3: Bye?
Speaker 7: It's my pleasures, my pleasure, and thank you so much
Speaker 7: and I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Eric, we are thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 1: What a what a delightful conversation. Who's eating your pie?
Speaker 1: If you're looking to build wealth, if you want some
Speaker 1: good advice about your finances, no matter where you are
Speaker 1: on the financial letter, and I'm kind of way down here.
Speaker 1: It's the nightcap and we ain't done yet. Seven hundred
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Speaker 1: Tuesday evening. Up next, our cyber sleof the guy is
Speaker 1: always checking for you dangers that can be found everywhere online,
Speaker 1: in the digital world, the Internet of things world in
Speaker 1: which we live.
Speaker 2: Dangerous Dave or.
Speaker 1: Doomsday Dave, whatever you want to call him from intrust
Speaker 1: it to us. Tonight, our old friend Dave Hatter rejoins,
Speaker 1: how is your Christmas Day?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm parry chat. That was pretty good, kind of
Speaker 5: low key. Got spent some timeless family at some time off,
Speaker 5: so you know, all in all, can't complain that's you.
Speaker 2: That's perfect.
Speaker 1: Winton saw my parents down in Middle Tennessee for Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve and part of Christmas Day and drove back home.
Speaker 1: But it was fairly low key family. Everything that was
Speaker 1: important we got to do. So you know, that's all
Speaker 1: that matters to me. I don't need the big wow
Speaker 1: Christmas anymore, that's for sure. You and I have talked
Speaker 1: extensively about avoiding Google at all CAUs Yes, but I
Speaker 1: saw this story and I wanted to cover what it
Speaker 1: was and have you kind of expound upon it. The
Speaker 1: basic five words are change this Chrome setting.
Speaker 2: Now what are we talking about?
Speaker 5: Well, first off, I would recommend to all of your
Speaker 5: listeners to stop using Chrome and use a privacy friendly
Speaker 5: browser like Brave, Firefox, Safari something like that. You know,
Speaker 5: if you're on an Apple platform already, Safari is pretty
Speaker 5: pretty privacy friendly, pretty secure. That would be my recommendation.
Speaker 5: You know, I have an Apple phone, but I have
Speaker 5: Windows based devices mostly otherwise, so you know, I'm not
Speaker 5: using Safario on those Windows devices. I'm typically using Brave
Speaker 5: or Firefox, So that would be my first piece of advice.
Speaker 5: But if you're going to continue to use Google Chrome,
Speaker 5: which is still the most popular web browser out there.
Speaker 5: And also I wanted to make a quick point of
Speaker 5: distinction because I think people get this confused in their
Speaker 5: mind when you say, like Chrome, Google and web browsing search.
Speaker 5: You can use the Google search engine from any web browser, right.
Speaker 5: Web browser is a piece of software like Chrome or
Speaker 5: Microsoft Edge or Firefox or Brave that allows you to
Speaker 5: access sites on the Internet, including the Google Search engine
Speaker 5: or other search engines like the Brain search engine or Duct,
Speaker 5: douct Go or Microsoft Being or something. I think a
Speaker 5: lot of people kind of get this all mixed up
Speaker 5: in their minds. You can use the Safari browser on
Speaker 5: your Apple phone to use the Google search engine. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't do that either, by the way. I would use
Speaker 5: a different search engine that's not related to Google personally, again,
Speaker 5: something more privacy friendly like Brave or Duct dot Go
Speaker 5: or something like that. But the web browser is the
Speaker 5: software that gives you access to websites on the Internet, right,
Speaker 5: And it's pretty ubiquitous now. Most people spend most of
Speaker 5: their time in a web browser, whether it's for work
Speaker 5: or education or pleasure or whatever. Google Chrome is still
Speaker 5: number one by a pretty good margin, and you know
Speaker 5: they've enhanced its capabilities over time. It's got to build
Speaker 5: in password manager and and one of the things that
Speaker 5: they're pointing out of this Word's article. And I would
Speaker 5: encourage people to go read this whole article because it's
Speaker 5: not only got some detailed information, but also some specifics
Speaker 5: about how to change very settings. But it points out
Speaker 5: something that security experts have worn for a long time.
Speaker 5: You should not no matter what web browser you use,
Speaker 5: whether it's Firefox, Brave, trem or whatever, you really should
Speaker 5: not save your passwords and other information like your address,
Speaker 5: credit cards. People have gotten into the habit of okay,
Speaker 5: the web browser when you go to a fill out
Speaker 5: a form to buy something online will ask you, do
Speaker 5: you want me to save this right so that it
Speaker 5: can auto fill for you in the future. Well, that's
Speaker 5: a bad idea. And that's really what this article is about.
Speaker 5: It's about storing that information, thinking across browsers, the amount
Speaker 5: of it, or across devices. You may have an Android phone,
Speaker 5: a Windows desktop, an Apple tablet, and if you're using Chrome,
Speaker 5: you can sink all this stuff across all three. So
Speaker 5: if you have the same information available in all places.
Speaker 5: And the guy that wrote this is pointing out how
Speaker 5: that's a bad idea and that stuff can be stolen.
Speaker 5: And again, carries you have experts have worn for a
Speaker 5: long time. Do not save your password in the browser's
Speaker 5: password manager. It's not as secure as like a separate
Speaker 5: third party password manager like one password. So again, I
Speaker 5: know I've been rambling for a while here. It really
Speaker 5: is important for people to understand this. Again, this article
Speaker 5: gets into some pretty good detail. I would advise I
Speaker 5: agree with the author. I would advise you against at
Speaker 5: the very least storing passwords in your browser. Get a
Speaker 5: third party password manager again, something like one password. There
Speaker 5: are plenty of good options out there and you will
Speaker 5: be much better off.
Speaker 1: And by the way, one password is not a good password.
Speaker 1: It may be a good third party third party password manager,
Speaker 1: but not a good password. Chinese criminals are trying everything
Speaker 1: they can to steal your credit card, therefore steal your money,
Speaker 1: and they can do it with one text.
Speaker 2: How does that work, Dave?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is an interesting video Wall Street Journal
Speaker 5: put out that really walks through the scenario of how
Speaker 5: this can be done and how easy it is. And
Speaker 5: you know, people ask me all the time, well, okay,
Speaker 5: I get these random texts you know why am I
Speaker 5: getting it? Well, first off, you've got to understand the
Speaker 5: phone system was designed a long time before anyone had
Speaker 5: any idea of how it could be used to create
Speaker 5: spoofed voice calls, text messages, et cetera. So it's sort
Speaker 5: of inherently insecured. It's low its layer, and the Internet
Speaker 5: technology that's laid over it has a lot of the
Speaker 5: same problems. A lot of this stuff is designed in
Speaker 5: the late sixties and early seventies when people did not
Speaker 5: envision how it would be used in the future, so
Speaker 5: it doesn't have inherent security. It can be layered onto
Speaker 5: it retro fitted in. But for the most part, a
Speaker 5: lot of this stuff, as the most fundamental layer, is
Speaker 5: just inherently insecure, which makes it easy for the bad
Speaker 5: guys to spoof things, as you and I have discussed
Speaker 5: many kinds, whether it's an email addraft that looks legit
Speaker 5: although it's not, or a phone number that looks but not.
Speaker 5: It's easy to do. Also, US phone numbers follow a
Speaker 5: predictable pattern. You know, I can know I can look
Speaker 5: at a phone number and no three digits, three digits,
Speaker 5: four digits. It's trivially easy to write a program that
Speaker 5: would literally create every conceivable phone number based on those patterns.
Speaker 9: So the idea that whether I've got I've bought data
Speaker 9: off the dark web of actual legitimate phone numbers that
Speaker 9: have been captured and stolen, sold, whatever, or i just
Speaker 9: generate phone numbers following.
Speaker 5: That pattern right one one one one one one one two.
Speaker 5: It's easy to do. So that the idea that someone
Speaker 5: can send you a text or frankly, make a voice call,
Speaker 5: a vision call, a voice calls you, it's a piece
Speaker 5: of cake. And sadly, you know, when you get the
Speaker 5: inbound text or the inbound call, the number it came
Speaker 5: from can be easily spoofed, so it might look like
Speaker 5: it came from the five to one to three area care,
Speaker 5: it might look like it came from your bank or whatever.
Speaker 5: So you know, when they do these attacks, they're relying
Speaker 5: on the ease of spoofing. They're relying on the ease
Speaker 5: of just blasting out hundreds of millions of these things.
Speaker 5: They're relying on the fact that a lot of people
Speaker 5: don't really understand how this works. And then of course
Speaker 5: they're trying to socially engineer you. And then this Wall
Speaker 5: Street Journal article it's actually a video that demonstrates how
Speaker 5: this works. They put out that apparently on one day
Speaker 5: in September of this year, three hundred and thirty thousand.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of surprised that that low. Three hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty thousand fake text were sent around this toll road scam.
Speaker 5: But I also want to drive the point home. You know,
Speaker 5: that's just one of many scams. I didn't your package
Speaker 5: is delayed, there's fraud on your bank account. My second
Speaker 5: oldest son got one of these yesterday. He got a
Speaker 5: text It claimed that a Venmo payment was going to
Speaker 5: be authorized on his bank account. They had the right
Speaker 5: banks for this. Now, is that coincidence? Maybe? But again,
Speaker 5: so many bleaks, breaches, your records are all out there.
Speaker 5: It's not hard for criminals to buy data about you
Speaker 5: and what bank you use, right, That's one of the
Speaker 5: tricks they use from the social engineering angle. So we
Speaker 5: got to text, oh, you know this payment is going
Speaker 5: to be authorized. If this is illegitimate, you know, click here,
Speaker 5: call this number whatever. So you know, again, I want
Speaker 5: to drive the point home. They are coming at you
Speaker 5: with every kind of scam under the sun. The toll
Speaker 5: road thing was one and then they show you in
Speaker 5: this article, how one you when you take debate right, okay,
Speaker 5: pay this toll or we're going to repossess your car
Speaker 5: or whatever they're claiming. Right. The social engineering piece and
Speaker 5: one of the pieces of advice the guy gives out is,
Speaker 5: you know, in genle and you and I have said
Speaker 5: this many times, stop and think, but someone is not
Speaker 5: going to put you in jail or repossess your car
Speaker 5: for six dollars and ninety nine cents. It just it
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense, right, So you know, always the advice
Speaker 5: is awareness, awareness that these things are happening. Stop, take
Speaker 5: a breath, think about what they're asking you to do,
Speaker 5: and then you know, go out of ban if you
Speaker 5: and to verify if you really think that something.
Speaker 2: Like this is legitimate.
Speaker 5: Don't call the phone numbers. They could be fake and
Speaker 5: going to some call center full of con artists waiting
Speaker 5: to scam you.
Speaker 8: Don't click the link.
Speaker 5: Certainly, don't enter your credit card or any other kind
Speaker 5: of sensitive information. If it claims to be the Ohio
Speaker 5: Turnpike authority, then you go to the Ohio Turnpiple look
Speaker 5: them up on your own and confirm this stuff. You
Speaker 5: know again it's just awareness, but they show how you know,
Speaker 5: once they have your credit card number, especially if they're
Speaker 5: in a place like China, they won't even use it there.
Speaker 5: They will literally have people somewhere back in the United
Speaker 5: States like mules essentially, and they'll send the information to
Speaker 5: them and have them start buying stuff there so that
Speaker 5: it takes longer for your bank to trigger the fraud.
Speaker 5: It's suddenly purchases are being made from China or so
Speaker 5: Malia or fill in the blank, and you're an American citizen.
Speaker 5: Well that you know, most banks have some very elaborate
Speaker 5: and very capable fraud detection, but if the purchases are
Speaker 5: being made in the United States, that's a lot less
Speaker 5: likely to trigger that. It's a pretty interesting expose. As always,
Speaker 5: be skeptical. Understand that they're making millions, if not billions
Speaker 5: of dollars with these scams of ESJ and this thing says,
Speaker 5: you know, experts have estimated that that's just the cold
Speaker 5: scams that generated over a billion dollars. Sozy, you know,
Speaker 5: they're highly wised, yeah, to keep at it, and you know,
Speaker 5: expect expect more of these things. They'll just keep changing
Speaker 5: the messaging and you know, trying to pray on. So
Speaker 5: it's sad, but it's predictable because it's easy and they're
Speaker 5: making lots of money.
Speaker 2: I think I told you a few weeks back.
Speaker 1: I've got a call from my bank with the bank
Speaker 1: number on the phone, and it was obviously a scam,
Speaker 1: and they wanted me to give the last four digits
Speaker 1: of my Social Security number to verify and instantly. Because
Speaker 1: of all your fine tutelage over these years, and because
Speaker 1: I stopped and thought for a moment, I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll contact my bank, thank you, very very much.
Speaker 1: So one bad Apple can spoil the whole bunch, or did,
Speaker 1: at least in one case, somebody purchased at a brick
Speaker 1: and mortar store. I didn't see where they purchased it,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really matter where. They purchased an Apple
Speaker 1: gift card and they tried to use it, and because
Speaker 1: Apple said this isn't legitimate or it's not good Apple
Speaker 1: somehow wiped out their whole digital existence and took away
Speaker 1: their Apple ID.
Speaker 2: What's up with that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a crazy story. And you know, I
Speaker 5: can only assume that what this person has written is true,
Speaker 5: and they have gone back in and updated their blog
Speaker 5: post on this. The major point in my mind of
Speaker 5: this is that not necessarily Apple is problematic. It's that
Speaker 5: we are increasingly reliant on all this digital technology, and
Speaker 5: we are increasingly in the graph, if you will, of
Speaker 5: a small number of large companies. You know, if you're
Speaker 5: in the Apple ecosystem with an Apple phone, and I
Speaker 5: know so many people who basically live out of their phone.
Speaker 5: I didn't even really use computers anymore. I'm constantly amazed,
Speaker 5: even like with my own kids, where they'll do things
Speaker 5: on the time little screen on their phone. When they
Speaker 5: could sit down at a full blown computer with a
Speaker 5: full sized keyboard and a big screen, it would be
Speaker 5: much easier to work. But they just don't do it.
Speaker 5: And you know, whether it's the Android ecosystem from Google
Speaker 5: on a phone or the Apple ecosystem or whatever, you
Speaker 5: have several large companies where your ID is now essentially
Speaker 5: controlled by them. And apparently what happened to this person
Speaker 5: is an Apple gift card was sold somehow something was
Speaker 5: off about it, and this person claims, now, again I
Speaker 5: can only go by what they're claiming that basically Apple
Speaker 5: somehow said, okay, this is fraudulent locked their account down,
Speaker 5: lock them out of their account. Well, okay, if you're
Speaker 5: on an Apple phone and you can't basically unlock your
Speaker 5: phone to get to all your apps, your banking app
Speaker 5: or whatever, and if you don't have a computer where
Speaker 5: you can access these things and know your passwords because
Speaker 5: you have a third party password manager that's not controlled
Speaker 5: by Apple, the Apple password manager phone, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: you're basically locked out everything. Yes, now it's and that's
Speaker 5: the thing I again, people need to realize. If you
Speaker 5: get yourself completely locked into a single ecosystem where everything
Speaker 5: is in there and you are entirely reliant on that,
Speaker 5: if for whatever reason it goes bad, you lock yourself out.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I've seen people do this too, they
Speaker 5: get themselves locked out of something. And when you try
Speaker 5: to call Microsoft for Apple or Google and get help,
Speaker 5: good luck with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Well we've only got We've only got about
Speaker 1: four minutes for this last one, and this last piece
Speaker 1: is probably the most crucial one we've touched on the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice for the first time. It's a rare occasion.
Speaker 1: Offered a warning about the site seven six'. Four explain
Speaker 1: real quickly what seven six y four is and why
Speaker 1: they were warning people about.
Speaker 5: It, yeah seven sixty four is essentially a criminal online.
Speaker 5: Gang it's kind of come to prominence here, RECENTLY i,
Speaker 5: mean and probably six months, Ago i'd never heard of,
Speaker 5: this and then it's kind of hit the news because,
Speaker 5: essentially again it's a criminal. Gang they're typically extorting, people
Speaker 5: often targeting. Children it gets into something you AND i
Speaker 5: have talked about, before the idea of. Sextortion it's not
Speaker 5: always focused on. THAT i, mean when you really dig into,
Speaker 5: this and this was a report FROM Abc. News AGAIN
Speaker 5: i encourage people go read the full, story but you've
Speaker 5: got SOME doj officials now really talking about this and
Speaker 5: the crazy things these people are. Doing, again it often
Speaker 5: revolves around these people go. Online they pretend to be
Speaker 5: a thirteen year old girl or a thirteen year old
Speaker 5: boy or. Something they're in places Like, Reddit, Discord, slack video,
Speaker 5: games social. Media they're going to places where kids. Are
Speaker 5: they're setting up these fake, Profiles they're pretending to be other.
Speaker 5: Kids they strike up a, relationship build some. Rapport next,
Speaker 5: thing you, know they're asking for inappropriate pictures and that
Speaker 5: sort of. Thing and then as soon as the kid attends.
Speaker 5: Something then they're, like, oh, okay well now you need
Speaker 5: to start sending us money where we want you to
Speaker 5: start cutting yourself or just, again sometimes it's about, money
Speaker 5: sometimes it's not. So reading from this article before we
Speaker 5: run out of, time quote seven to sixty, four actors
Speaker 5: often groom the victims by first establishing a, trusting a
Speaker 5: romantic relationships before eventually manipulating and touristing. Them extremists control
Speaker 5: their victims through building immense. Fear they do it simply
Speaker 5: for the network's entertainment or the threat actor's own sense of.
Speaker 5: Fame the agent, said, now this is from AN fbi
Speaker 5: agent who was quoted in this. Article, again sometimes it's about.
Speaker 5: Money sometimes it's it's you, know for the reasons they
Speaker 5: stated here they the article goes into a lot more.
Speaker 5: Detail FBI's investing one of three hundred and fifty people
Speaker 5: across The United states suspect with suspected ties to seven
Speaker 5: sixty four or similar. Networks SO i think the real,
Speaker 5: Takeaway Gary jeff was around of time is parents need
Speaker 5: to warn their kids about, this this idea of. Sextortion you,
Speaker 5: know numerous people kids have killed themselves because of. THIS
Speaker 5: i saw a story the other, day AND i don't
Speaker 5: have it pulled up, here but like one, kid the
Speaker 5: parents gave him a. Phone he was online On instagram
Speaker 5: for something like three days where he killed himself because of.
Speaker 5: This so you, know parents need to be talking to their.
Speaker 5: Kids they need to make sure kids. Understand, again so
Speaker 5: much of this comes back to, awareness knowing that this
Speaker 5: kind of thing is out, there warning kids about, it
Speaker 5: talking to them about who they're talking to and what
Speaker 5: they're doing. Online and you, know it's a tricky job
Speaker 5: to try to understand what your kids are doing online
Speaker 5: because even if you block things at your, house they
Speaker 5: may go next door to the neighbor's house and do
Speaker 5: it right at the. Library so again awareness is. Key
Speaker 5: but if your average parent or grandparent reads this, ARTICLE
Speaker 5: i promise you they will be infuriated and terrified at
Speaker 5: the same time at the same. Time and it's really
Speaker 5: important to get the word out about this and warn kids,
Speaker 5: that you, know anywhere they are online where they can
Speaker 5: interact with other, people there's some risk of this happening to.
Speaker 1: Them know who you're talking to, Always and that's again
Speaker 1: on THE Abc news archives and just SEARCH abc in
Speaker 1: seven six' four dj you'll probably find. This Story, dave
Speaker 1: hatter thank you. SO Much A Happy new year, to.
Speaker 1: You sir what was always my.
Speaker 5: Pleasure, Here yes Happy new year to You and krista
Speaker 5: and all. Your listeners.
Speaker 1: Thank you we'll do some good, next, year hopefully because
Speaker 1: it's not slowing down.
Speaker 2: At all it's, All. Right dave thanks.
Speaker 1: A lot it's the nightcap and it continues with an
Speaker 1: hour of sports for the out, of sorts coming right
Speaker 1: up into the last hour of this last night tab
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five before the witching hour, of midnight and.
Speaker 1: Joining us first off is, my friend the fur, Of All,
Speaker 1: andy furman is back for another bite at. The apple
Speaker 1: this is Two times i've talked to you. This week
Speaker 1: you're getting.
Speaker 8: Pretty exhamed i'm too many for a lot. OF people
Speaker 8: i guess you know you sound like you. Will do are?
Speaker 8: YOU tired i mean it's Not Even new? Year's eveiot,
Speaker 8: Come On i'm.
Speaker 1: I'm pump what are you? Talking about i've got lots.
Speaker 1: Of energy what's wrong? With you what's what's wrong with?
Speaker 8: Your ears, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I'm hitting so what do?
Speaker 8: You do the finger?
Speaker 5: At me what do?
Speaker 1: You do what do you do to Celebrate the. New
Speaker 1: year do you have, A, Tradition, andy.
Speaker 8: No, NOT really. I don't i take it one year at.
Speaker 8: A time i'm. VERY hot i can make it to the,
Speaker 8: next YEAR and i Think This New year's i'll probably
Speaker 8: stay home because it, predict Snow and i'll watch the
Speaker 8: Of The. Cotton, bowl oh you're.
Speaker 2: You're right What's that Georgia and old miss that's a.
Speaker 8: Big, match, no Actually it's miami's going to be playing.
Speaker 8: THAT game I, Believe Miami, Ohio state.
Speaker 1: Miami ohigh That's, that's uh that's like it's, seven thirty
Speaker 1: so tomorrow it'll be done.
Speaker 2: By midnight i'll watch.
Speaker 8: IT again i watch do you?
Speaker 2: Do that do you? Go back and rewatch?
Speaker 1: Football games because we have all those, options now WE, got,
Speaker 1: Dvr now we've got replays all over. The, place SOMETIMES
Speaker 1: since i Don't Have amazon prime For the THURSDAY night,
Speaker 1: NFL games i love WATCHING The nfl network because the
Speaker 1: next day they replay IT and i just tell people at,
Speaker 1: the bar don't tell me. WHO wins i didn't see
Speaker 1: it last Night because i'm not.
Speaker 8: Paying for heavy duty season of college football intersecting WITH.
Speaker 8: THE nfl i can't watch all. The games if people,
Speaker 8: COME out i got three four TVs going on, at
Speaker 8: Once but i'll watch.
Speaker 5: THEM all.
Speaker 8: I can't i just can't. Do It so i'll watch
Speaker 8: one or two THE ones i really want, to see
Speaker 8: and the rest OF them i could go on line
Speaker 8: and get the highlights.
Speaker 3: And that's all you need.
Speaker 8: TO me i don't think anybody's going to turn a
Speaker 8: sports talk show on for results of. A game they
Speaker 8: just don't. Do. That really they may want to get
Speaker 8: a storyline in, the game like why why a coach
Speaker 8: would go for two rather? Than one like In that
Speaker 8: buffalo Game, On sunday why is he going? For two
Speaker 8: could have gone for one and gone to overtime For.
Speaker 8: The bills they maybe it could have won. An overtime
Speaker 8: that's what people want to, talk about, you know basically
Speaker 8: things within, the game but not actually they turned the
Speaker 8: game on for. The score. You, KNOW look i don't
Speaker 8: think anybody turns the game on for betting options. Or scores,
Speaker 8: you know give, me storylines that's what. They want but you,
Speaker 8: Know what i'll, tell you, that's creative. That's thinking and
Speaker 8: most of the people right now who do radio and
Speaker 8: sit behind, the microphone maybe even in the national LEVEL
Speaker 8: because i KNOW and, i listen that's what. They do
Speaker 8: was it's easy.
Speaker 2: That way this is they just talk about scores and. Betting,
Speaker 2: lines yeah.
Speaker 8: They, DO no i understand how betting lines have taken
Speaker 8: over and people are. Into it you can do it
Speaker 8: on your phone and they sponsor a lot of the
Speaker 8: shows and things. Like That but i'm not a GUY,
Speaker 8: at Bed so i'm not interested. In that i'm. Not
Speaker 8: familing and that's FUNNY because i worked at so many
Speaker 8: racetrasts throughout, my life and, you KNOW if i made
Speaker 8: maybe a total of fifty bucks, in best my entire
Speaker 8: life was. A, lot well, YOU know.
Speaker 1: I don't i don't make a lot of cocktails at
Speaker 1: HOME because i do that on a, regular basis three
Speaker 1: or four days. A week, You're RIGHT and i always wonder, about,
Speaker 1: chefs chefs, you know even. Executive chefs they don't come
Speaker 1: home and they're like cooking.
Speaker 2: A four or five course gourmet meal because.
Speaker 8: They do that on a regular to try out and
Speaker 8: see what other. Chefs do and maybe chefs that have
Speaker 8: so sort of a, you know, a reputation they want,
Speaker 8: to say he is he really? THAT good i won't, go.
Speaker 1: See Right but, i'm saying when he's, off work when
Speaker 1: he's not on, the job that's the last thing he wants.
Speaker 1: To do the LAST thing i want to Do when
Speaker 1: i'm not working at a bar is go out to.
Speaker 1: A bar people invite me all the time on my,
Speaker 1: off days, and, LIKE no i got my fill of that.
Speaker 1: LAST week i would, rather stay not even on the
Speaker 1: right side of. The bar i'd rather stay. At Home
Speaker 1: and i'm the same way under Your. Z eve we
Speaker 1: are going to friend's house tomorrow Night, In. Ripley ohio
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave in, the afternoon going to stay overnight
Speaker 1: and wake Up On New year's day and drive back
Speaker 1: And then i'll go. To work but as far as
Speaker 1: as far as going Out On New, year's eve those
Speaker 1: days are long over, for me and Not because i'm old.
Speaker 1: And tired i'm. Just wild, you are but.
Speaker 8: You are but they're. All over you've, been there. Done
Speaker 8: that you? Know What what i'd like? To see things
Speaker 8: that i'd like. To see i'd like to See The
Speaker 8: sioux Chef With jeff ruby steakhouse in front of me
Speaker 8: in the car waiting. For McDonald's THAT'S what i would like.
Speaker 8: To do things, Like that these are the things that
Speaker 8: go through. MY mind i THINK that i would love,
Speaker 8: to see.
Speaker 2: But you know.
Speaker 1: That happens, you know that's the last thing they want
Speaker 1: to do is go and buy and cook a nice
Speaker 1: uh chamel and uh, you know do a. Lobster thermidore
Speaker 1: you know they're not they're they're not dining out at
Speaker 1: a fine dining establishment if they work.
Speaker 2: In one and That's what i'm.
Speaker 1: TALKING about i don't go home and do radio SHOWS
Speaker 1: when i don't have a, radio SHOW and i barely
Speaker 1: listen to radio. AT all i always TELL people i
Speaker 1: don't Listen when i'm, not on and the ONLY reason
Speaker 1: i Listened when i'm on IS because i. HAVE to
Speaker 1: i have to listen to.
Speaker 8: You speaking to. RADIO shows, i mean people have asked
Speaker 8: me over, the years who the best guests? You have if?
Speaker 8: You listen may you go back and listen to. A
Speaker 8: show i'm gonna be honest. WITH you i DON'T think
Speaker 8: i have one of my Shows that i've ever done
Speaker 8: being on seven HUNDRED wow E With, fox sports Although
Speaker 8: the FOX once i could probably get because we got
Speaker 8: podcasts of all. Of them but, you KNOW and i,
Speaker 8: LOOK back, i mean there's no leading WHY would i,
Speaker 8: want them. YOU know i think, my son my, Oldest,
Speaker 8: son jake has saved a couple of my shows because
Speaker 8: he used. To listen he was enamored, with it, You
Speaker 8: know so he saved a couple. Of mine have no
Speaker 8: idea where. They are but have you saved? Your shows you.
Speaker 2: Keep them there are some in archive and there are
Speaker 2: some that.
Speaker 1: Are not there are some shows that are obviously special,
Speaker 1: to me guests that are SPECIAL that i probably won't, get,
Speaker 1: again like, For Example, kevin wade who was an executive
Speaker 1: produce and writer on the Television Series, blue BLOODS which
Speaker 1: i and my. Wife loved his, very popular long running
Speaker 1: Series With tom Selleck And. Donnie wahlberg but the writing
Speaker 1: and the casting, was excellent and a chance to pick
Speaker 1: his brain about one of my FAVORITE ever tv shows
Speaker 1: was special, to me and it was a. Great interview
Speaker 1: he was a very amenable guy and easy to. Talk
Speaker 1: to there are some, guests, THAT yeah i kind of
Speaker 1: prize and, go man that was a good GET and
Speaker 1: i probably should archive this and. Then Others, loll ponte
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine who passed gosh three four years,
Speaker 1: ago NOW but i have some of his shows LEFT
Speaker 1: because i just loved the tone and tambour of. HIS
Speaker 1: voice i loved what he said when he, said something
Speaker 1: and he was always saying, something intelligent aeradite, and thoughtful
Speaker 1: and he had great. Historical References so i've got Some lowll,
Speaker 1: ponte shows but other, than, THAT no, I mean.
Speaker 8: I wonder If The big one has some of those
Speaker 8: shows and.
Speaker 3: ALL.
Speaker 8: Kids, o hey it's FUNNY because i REMEMBER once I
Speaker 8: Had serena. Williams on that was a. Big one i'd
Speaker 8: love to hear, that again JUST how i SOUNDED what i,
Speaker 8: Asked her, I'm sure and when she came for the
Speaker 8: for the tennis tournament, IN town I had serena on
Speaker 8: and some of the Stuff With oscar Robertson And. Pete
Speaker 8: Rose but i'll. Never forget this goes back maybe about four.
Speaker 8: YEARS ago i was on On a saturday Afternoon On
Speaker 8: Fox sports radio and My partner STEVE and. I lost this,
Speaker 8: LAST time i forgot who was already we, would talk
Speaker 8: and He Mentioned. Pete ROSE so, i said do you
Speaker 8: want to Talk? To pete and he, says yeah said
Speaker 8: how can we? Do, that well after, this break we'll,
Speaker 8: get HIM and i called Him and pete went on
Speaker 8: after that we had him on for. Two segments it.
Speaker 5: Was great he.
Speaker 8: Was shocked he was SHOCKED that i could get on
Speaker 8: the poor in the Style Of.
Speaker 2: Pete. Rose interview one you'd like to have, For, posterity.
Speaker 8: Well that Was in FOX and i can probably. Get
Speaker 8: That But serena williams was on. Seven hundred i'd like
Speaker 8: to SEE if i can. Find that but it's not a.
Speaker 8: Big deal WHAT am i going to do?
Speaker 5: With?
Speaker 8: It really? YOU know, I mean i guess in your
Speaker 8: younger days you keep those because you send them out
Speaker 8: other radio.
Speaker 1: Stations as auditions, a, Resume right but you, know.
Speaker 8: What you don't even have to do that ANYMORE because
Speaker 8: i think various program directors have the opportunity to just
Speaker 8: go online and, here right.
Speaker 2: It's all over.
Speaker 1: Everywhere today you don't have to have a little cassette
Speaker 1: that you hope still plays to show somebody what, you
Speaker 1: did which was what it.
Speaker 2: Was in the.
Speaker 1: OLD day i did an Interview With, will purdue the
Speaker 1: MULTIPLE time nba champion And former vanderbilt, basketball STAR and
Speaker 1: i love THAT because i Was a vandy. BASKETBALL fan
Speaker 1: I Saw will purdue Play at vanderbilt and then With
Speaker 1: The chicago Bulls And San antonio SPURS and i treasured,
Speaker 1: that INTERVIEW so i logged that one and. Saved it
Speaker 1: let's see the radio Heroes that i've Had On american
Speaker 1: history on, the radio the Series that i've done here
Speaker 1: On the nightcap over, The Years, John Records land Decker,
Speaker 1: from CHICAGO who i grew up. Listening to I'd Gun,
Speaker 1: tom kelly who has a star On The Hollywood Walker.
Speaker 3: Thing ben channel since.
Speaker 8: Seventy three, Ye Yeah.
Speaker 1: Flash phelps i've got some Of the flash interviews saved
Speaker 1: because he's such a.
Speaker 2: Great travelogue GUY and i love.
Speaker 1: Stories about a guy who has been to all fifty
Speaker 1: states in all but about two, hundred counties and people
Speaker 1: seem to enjoy. Those, two SO like, i said there are,
Speaker 1: SPECIAL interviews i say this is probably not going to
Speaker 1: be one.
Speaker 8: Of THEM and i tell, you, what honestly to give
Speaker 8: some Kudos To matt reec from the, news department he's
Speaker 8: not a great job under one hundred years of seven
Speaker 8: hundred and some of the shows that he's pulled and
Speaker 8: you can get. Him Online so i've listened to some
Speaker 8: of those him. Been tremendous but, you know you go
Speaker 8: Back To flash PHELPS and i listen to him every
Speaker 8: now and again in the Morning when i'm not Listening To,
Speaker 8: tom brenneman and, you know he'll do trips and talk,
Speaker 8: about TRAVEL and i think that's the perfect thing people
Speaker 8: want to hear, upbeat stuff especially when the first thing in,
Speaker 8: the morning don't. YOU agree i turn on the radio,
Speaker 8: right now, And look i'm not a. Program director NEXT
Speaker 8: time i try to venture, to be want to be the,
Speaker 8: FIRST time i don't want to BE when i have
Speaker 8: no idea to.
Speaker 3: Do One but i'll tell.
Speaker 8: YOU what i having a cute ear, FOR radio i,
Speaker 8: really DO and I think i know what. PEOPLE like
Speaker 8: i KNOW what, i LIKE and i think they were
Speaker 8: kind of like top heavy and. POLITICAL talk i really
Speaker 8: Believe That jim scott was so popular and everybody. Loved
Speaker 8: him why he was.
Speaker 4: Right down in.
Speaker 8: The middle he was not a. Political guy and now
Speaker 8: you've got, political PEOPLE and i, gotta believe And maybe
Speaker 8: i'm wrong that when you take, a side. Believe It
Speaker 8: and i'm not telling you what side, to take but
Speaker 8: should one take a side behind the Microphone being Republican,
Speaker 8: And democrat you're gonna lose automatically fifty percent of. The
Speaker 8: audience you are that's how stupid these people are who. Talk,
Speaker 8: politics jim don't lose. Your audience the key is ratings.
Speaker 8: And revenue that's the key. For radio and do you
Speaker 8: want to get the radis how do you do that with.
Speaker 1: AN audience i have talked to many People About jim
Speaker 1: scott and my own personal experience with, The man god
Speaker 1: rest his soul was that he was truly curious. About
Speaker 1: people he wasn't that enamored. With himself he would introduce himself,
Speaker 1: to everyone but he was curious to know when he
Speaker 1: met people what they did, and uh what was.
Speaker 2: Going on in.
Speaker 1: Their lives and it showed on the air when he talked.
Speaker 1: To people he he had, that ability he had that
Speaker 1: knack to really genuinely sound like he cared about, other
Speaker 1: people no matter who, they were and and that was
Speaker 1: a remarkable gift to have and he shared with all
Speaker 1: of us for all.
Speaker 8: Those, YEARS see i would like to see Someone and,
Speaker 8: i'm like what? This week everybody is off on the.
Speaker 8: Big one but you know You Got mike Allen on
Speaker 8: andy and the phone, line handy? What?
Speaker 2: What what what do you mean? Everybody's off? I'm, ON.
Speaker 8: Yeah i mean you're on twice. A week i mean
Speaker 8: about the regular, Day shit.
Speaker 1: I'm On every saturday morning for almost twenty. Nine years
Speaker 1: i'm A, Regular.
Speaker 8: Friday friday Monday. Through Friday look I'M not i don't
Speaker 8: put you in, a Category but i'm talking about like say,
Speaker 8: WHEN slowan.
Speaker 2: I mean like and Also ran you're you're treating, me,
Speaker 2: like uh.
Speaker 8: You, know what the ONLY one i think the station.
Speaker 8: Does too so that's. Another story, ALL right i was.
Speaker 2: Going downhill, real quick, Go, ahead no so you brought.
Speaker 2: It up you, brought up you brought.
Speaker 1: It up, you said nobody's, this WEEK so i respect.
Speaker 8: A lot of people are up.
Speaker 2: This, week okay.
Speaker 8: That's why you feel There's For, bill Cunningham And mike
Speaker 8: allen was filling It For, scott SLOAN and i would
Speaker 8: have loved to Have heard mike allaner just open the
Speaker 8: lines your. Great stories you know who? Does that sterling
Speaker 8: does that. A lot what, you know up the positive
Speaker 8: conversation and he gets a lot of. Phone calls and
Speaker 8: people are interested in other people's lives and what they
Speaker 8: do or did you accomplish? This year what people are
Speaker 8: gonna laugh at me, and say, you know, oh stop
Speaker 8: it really is. Too, puffy no it's not would you
Speaker 8: rather talk about that or just a politician That HATE
Speaker 8: and i know it's, out there but you know you
Speaker 8: don't need to talk about that on. The radio you
Speaker 8: get that on. The news you don't need that on the.
Speaker 8: Talk show and they've gone away from phone. Calls too
Speaker 8: if you notice that he used to be. Talk radio
Speaker 8: it's not talk.
Speaker 6: Radio radio we're on a phone call.
Speaker 1: RIGHT now i have phone calls, every nightcap all, Night, long.
Speaker 8: Andy not, from listeners not.
Speaker 2: From listeners sometimes they.
Speaker 8: Are, Listeners okay i'm Just saying i'm not trying to.
Speaker 8: Be critical.
Speaker 1: You are you're being, over, critical HYPERCRITICAL and i think
Speaker 1: it's a d.
Speaker 2: THE year i think it's the way to end.
Speaker 3: The year.
Speaker 2: Correct, me so?
Speaker 1: How many how many listeners do you talk To On
Speaker 1: fox sports Thirteen SIXTY and I say.
Speaker 10: I don't you don't talk to listeners because On a,
Speaker 10: sunday morning On a, sunday morning you're you're going to
Speaker 10: get somebody who's hungover from the.
Speaker 1: Night before it's not going to, be interesting it's not
Speaker 1: going to be compelling to because most people are, just
Speaker 1: listeners they're, not participants and they don't want to be
Speaker 1: they want to, be entertained they want to hear. Something
Speaker 1: interesting they don't want to call. In that, you know
Speaker 1: the three people that call in, at NIGHT and i
Speaker 1: learned this a long time ago on. This show the
Speaker 1: three people that will call in from nine to midnight
Speaker 1: are either sick. Of fans in, other words they just
Speaker 1: want to kiss, your butt they hate you and they
Speaker 1: want to debate you, on everything or. They're Drunk and
Speaker 1: i've got no time for nobody else who's tuning in wants.
Speaker 11: To hire any of.
Speaker 2: That garbage and That's why.
Speaker 8: I'm on sunday Morning. ON fox i choose a Seven am,
Speaker 8: eastern time will be four Am. In la no one
Speaker 8: who's going to call me on the radio at four
Speaker 8: o'clock in, the morning, all right unless. They're, Drunk, really.
Speaker 2: No That's What i'm THAT'S what.
Speaker 8: I mean, I AGREE and i can't get a guest at.
Speaker 8: That hour who's gonna? CALL who i Wouldn't even i'd
Speaker 8: be embarrassed to ask somebody to be a guest at, that,
Speaker 8: HOUR right i go to sometimes ten o'clock in the Morning.
Speaker 8: On sunday still It's a. Sunday morning i'm not doing.
Speaker 8: That now during the Week, ON fox i call everybody
Speaker 8: we Had when mike D'Antonio Was Coaching, michigan's stay we,
Speaker 8: HAD him I Had. Bill belichick you named the guests
Speaker 8: we had him on Nationally on fox For Has Steph Corey's,
Speaker 8: steph curry he was a guest. With us i'll tell.
Speaker 8: YOU what i was shocked, with THAT and i thanked
Speaker 8: them big time because we had him on Eight, thirty
Speaker 8: easton which is five thirty his Time In. San FRANCISCO
Speaker 8: and i told my Co Host mike north at, the
Speaker 8: time there's no Way in God's Green Earth steph curry's
Speaker 8: going to be calling us at eight thirty. This morning
Speaker 8: is why? Is that as it's five Thirty In. San
Speaker 8: francisco he's not. Doing that you know what. HE called
Speaker 8: i have a new found respect.
Speaker 5: For him.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful And If steph curry would call, ME now
Speaker 1: i would dump your Call and i'd put.
Speaker 2: HIM on, i should and.
Speaker 8: YOU should i wish you know why.
Speaker 1: Why do YOU think i have? You on because you're like.
Speaker 1: A vampire you're always up at this HOUR and i
Speaker 1: love talking. To you so it's a it's a win win,
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Speaker 1: listeners for the, most part because they always reference.
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Speaker 2: AND andy i know that they're not.
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Speaker 8: YOU try i. Would try, you know when you, don't
Speaker 8: try that's when you fail. IN life i would say
Speaker 8: that you.
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Speaker 1: YEARS show i tried that for five years on, this
Speaker 1: show and Nobody. Called andy and if, they did they
Speaker 1: were they hated me and hated, my guests or they. Were, drunk.
Speaker 8: Okay period It's what. I'm saying at the end of,
Speaker 8: the year say it's been a. GREAT year i appreciate.
Speaker 8: Your support what can we do to revamp? This show
Speaker 8: if you have any ideas that we're here to, take them,
Speaker 8: no calls you just.
Speaker 2: Move on how do you want to revamp something?
Speaker 1: That works if, it's broke don't.
Speaker 8: Fix it what are? The ratings, you know the ratings,
Speaker 8: you have you have the.
Speaker 1: Ratings work IT'S what i feel about how the. Show
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Speaker 8: long words, about ratings that's. The key i'll ask. Number
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Speaker 8: In LIFE but i turn on a talk Show and
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Speaker 8: a million, Percent CORRECT so i agree with you one.
Speaker 8: Thousand percent and he mentioned that in a staff meeting,
Speaker 8: one time which is something you probably. Never had at
Speaker 8: seven Hundred since darrow left the.
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Speaker 8: This month You know i'm a radio Savin an, Idiotkay
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Speaker 8: sad for.
Speaker 1: The last fifteen minutes telling me how crappy my show
Speaker 1: is because.
Speaker 8: You you have a mindset. Of that you twist what.
Speaker 8: PEOPLE say, i look, you're successful you have. To be
Speaker 8: you've been there. This, LANGUAGE fine i.
Speaker 1: WOULDN'T be i wouldn't still be on the air if
Speaker 1: if it Was, all landy.
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Speaker 8: me i would like to find feedback, From listeners like
Speaker 8: what do You Think jim scott has feedback all. The
Speaker 8: time cunningham. Has feedback everybody. Has feedback you don't have
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Speaker 6: Phone Lines That's jim scott didn't know when the phone
Speaker 6: lines once in Twenty, years andy the show.
Speaker 2: Was set the show.
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Speaker 2: Is set he had.
Speaker 1: A show who had, an idea he had, a plan
Speaker 1: he had elements that appeared.
Speaker 2: Every morning he didn't need callers and had the.
Speaker 8: Night show The callers billy cunning him. To night When
Speaker 8: when bill did ninth to midnight.
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Speaker 2: on yeah, He did sure, He did sure. He, Did
Speaker 2: andy we're out. Of time i'm.
Speaker 3: SO glad I think.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry this is this is such an. Upbeat way
Speaker 2: this is such an upbeat.
Speaker 1: Way to end twenty. Twenty, FIVE andy i am so
Speaker 1: GLAD that i had, you BACK and i look forward to.
Speaker 2: NEXT year i, Love You Happy new year.
Speaker 10: To.
Speaker 1: You bye in the words Of The great joe Nutxall
Speaker 1: rounding third heading for home on the last nightcap of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and joining, us now of course in
Speaker 1: our hour of sports for the out of sorts and. Other,
Speaker 1: things uh the one the only sports, commando Himself Wild
Speaker 1: man walker coming back.
Speaker 2: IN now i know you were able to unload some gou.
Speaker 1: Yesterday on willie's show when you called in after The
Speaker 1: second steage report and there was some good go in.
Speaker 1: THERE night i was asking inquiring ABOUT what goo is
Speaker 1: and how do you? Get it but apparently you say
Speaker 1: it's it's an. Internal thing did that Start with, andy
Speaker 1: McWilliams or where did that the goo things?
Speaker 2: Start Originally?
Speaker 6: WILD man i want TO say i heard it out
Speaker 6: of the Mouth Of, pete rose, really yeah or he
Speaker 6: would always say he would have He would now you
Speaker 6: KNOW what i THINK it's i think It Was, marty
Speaker 6: BRENNEMAN because I Think pete pete roseans will say case of,
Speaker 6: the ass you got a case of the.
Speaker 2: Ass, right RIGHT which I think i think is.
Speaker 1: MORE common, i, mean yeah IT'S more i, don't know
Speaker 1: it's more abrupt and more brash to say the one
Speaker 1: you Said that. Pete Said but brenneman dressed it up a,
Speaker 1: little bit made it a little bit more family friendly
Speaker 1: when he said.
Speaker 2: Of, THE goo i love case of.
Speaker 5: The.
Speaker 1: Goo, yeah now now how do you get the? Goo
Speaker 1: gone is there a goo be gone that you use
Speaker 1: other than just taking it off?
Speaker 6: Your chest you just get it off your chest and,
Speaker 6: move on or it might linger there for a couple
Speaker 6: of days if the topic.
Speaker 2: Is hot how long have you ever let a case
Speaker 2: of the? Goo Linger?
Speaker 1: Wild MAN because i think it's good to give up
Speaker 1: that kind, of stuff that. Negative stuff You.
Speaker 6: H let's go back to two thousand. And four Maybe
Speaker 6: When danny graves snitched. On Me that's i've still got
Speaker 6: to go, about That And i'll i'll never let that go.
Speaker 1: Never, ever well how is how does That Hurt? Danny
Speaker 1: graves it doesn't hurt him. At all it's poison inside. Your,
Speaker 1: system no it's.
Speaker 6: Not poison that feels good to get it out and
Speaker 6: let people know what a what a punk snitch, he was,
Speaker 6: you know like a little old maid running and tell.
Speaker 2: Him what did? HE tell?
Speaker 6: I forgot, He went he went and told then the
Speaker 6: media Relationship Director rob BUTCHER that i used the cell
Speaker 6: Phone Of ryan friel because my cell phone crapped out
Speaker 6: JUST before i was ready to do my final report
Speaker 6: back to the radio Station With, eddie Fingers With adam
Speaker 6: Dunn and Brian. Free was we had Just Hired ryan
Speaker 6: friedle to come on the air with us once, a
Speaker 6: Week So ryan frele had no problem.
Speaker 3: With IT and i.
Speaker 6: Went outside outside and used, the phone gave It to,
Speaker 6: adam done he Talked, to eddie he gave it back.
Speaker 2: TO me i took it back in to give It
Speaker 2: The ryan friole couldn't.
Speaker 6: Find him the phone, Was ringing AND now i Finally
Speaker 6: found RYAN but I.
Speaker 2: Noticed graves and saw me had the Phone To.
Speaker 6: Ryan, friole well then he must have stuck his nose
Speaker 6: in where it, didn't belong in which he really had.
Speaker 2: No business and he went And Told rob.
Speaker 6: BUTCHER that I Used ryan friol's. Cell phone Well, Then,
Speaker 6: Ryan Uh rob butcher had a major case of. The
Speaker 6: ass and it was.
Speaker 1: Not, pretty wait wait, a minute was not Pretty That
Speaker 1: rob butcher had? The ass and now you've got, the
Speaker 1: go what's the difference between a case of the ass
Speaker 1: and a case of?
Speaker 11: The goo?
Speaker 3: Wild?
Speaker 2: Man uh just? Butting heads?
Speaker 1: Butting heads so why would he have problems if You'd
Speaker 1: Hired ryan friel to do a report once a week.
Speaker 1: For you wasn't he technically also a station employee as
Speaker 1: well as A rede.
Speaker 6: You tell me it will both know exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Would be there be no conflict there, at all?
Speaker 6: All RIGHT and i TOLD and i Said To, rob
Speaker 6: butcher what's the big deal he's going to work? For
Speaker 6: us and then he set a derogatory term in front
Speaker 6: of me and, then, said uh asking him to use
Speaker 6: his cell phone and was the most Unprofessional thing i've.
Speaker 2: EVER heard, i go what's the?
Speaker 6: Big deal, he goes give me your press pass and
Speaker 6: don't ever ask me for anything. Ever again and you
Speaker 6: know what that's when you know what hit?
Speaker 2: The fan so.
Speaker 6: They did you could have heard me yelling at him
Speaker 6: there three.
Speaker 1: Blocks away do you Think That rob butcher held on
Speaker 1: too that goo for a?
Speaker 8: Long?
Speaker 2: Time, no no maybe about.
Speaker 6: A year i made Up With rob butcher about three
Speaker 6: four years ago before he Left. The reds, YOU know
Speaker 6: i never think it was cool, between us, you Know But.
Speaker 2: Danny Graves that i'll. Never get i'll never forget.
Speaker 6: That punk because he had no business.
Speaker 1: Doing that so does It Make rob butcher a bigger
Speaker 1: man than you because he was able to let go
Speaker 1: of the goo and.
Speaker 2: You Can't i'll i'll let you make. THAT judgment I
Speaker 2: know i'm no good at. Judging PEOPLE lest i.
Speaker 5: Be.
Speaker 1: Judged, okay so so that, being said you had another
Speaker 1: phone issue a couple of. Weeks Ago and i'm only
Speaker 1: bringing this up because well It was it was.
Speaker 6: A major, phone issue not Just another it was a major.
Speaker 3: Phone issue.
Speaker 1: All right you had a phone issue where your phone.
Speaker 1: Just tanked you didn't you didn't forget, Your phone you
Speaker 1: didn't lose. Your phone the phone just took a dump
Speaker 1: on you, Right.
Speaker 6: Right and my buddy took it up to the store
Speaker 6: to have him look, at it and, they, said well,
Speaker 6: we can't we can't do. Anything here we'll have to send,
Speaker 6: it out and he decided to have it. Sent, out
Speaker 6: well it Went, out sunday Came. Back tuesday but in,
Speaker 6: the meantime my sonly Lives, in illinois was trying to
Speaker 6: text ME and i, wasn't responding and another buddy of
Speaker 6: mine was sending me a TEXT and i wasn't. Responding Anywhere,
Speaker 6: wild Man, WILD man i was sending you TEXT and
Speaker 6: i was calling you because we were supposed to do
Speaker 6: something for this show On, a tuesday and you didn't
Speaker 6: have your, phone BACK and i.
Speaker 1: WAS concerned i was leaving you text like are you?
Speaker 1: Still alive because you know it's just going to voicemail
Speaker 1: over and over again in your mailbox. Is full by,
Speaker 1: the way have you cleaned out your mailbox? Since then
Speaker 1: WHY don't i don't.
Speaker 6: Even have my voicemail, set UP so i don't know
Speaker 6: where the message Is go they, Go down they must
Speaker 6: Go to saturn.
Speaker 2: OR something i don't have that voicemail. SET up i
Speaker 2: shall with it all, The time.
Speaker 6: I'm not, you know it's it's bad ENOUGH that i got,
Speaker 6: to go, you know go through looking who's, called man looking, at.
Speaker 6: Emails voicemail. FORGET it i DON'T want i don't want
Speaker 6: no part.
Speaker 1: Of that, so, listen uh and YOU and i were
Speaker 1: talking about this because a couple of, WEEKS ago i
Speaker 1: famously lost my phone two days in. A row I
Speaker 1: Had joe. Biden Moments and i'm not even sixty five at.
Speaker 8: This.
Speaker 1: Point UH and i was just like really CONCERNED that
Speaker 1: i was losing IT because i kept losing. My phone
Speaker 1: and it happened two days in. A row i went
Speaker 1: to the grid. GROCERY store i Went to kroger. DOUSHIP
Speaker 1: shopping I knew i had my phone with ME because
Speaker 1: i was calling. MY wife i was looking for Recipes while.
Speaker 1: I'M shopping i put the phone down in the top of,
Speaker 1: the cart you know that little thing the section and
Speaker 1: right by, the handle top of the cart and right
Speaker 1: right above the. Baby, Seat, ANYWAY yeah i take my
Speaker 1: groceries out of. The car the phone's still, sitting there
Speaker 1: and OF course i forgot IT when i left it
Speaker 1: in the cart wreck and. Went HOME so i get
Speaker 1: home and realize and go back out to the car
Speaker 1: in a. Frantic search can't find. THE phone, i, Go,
Speaker 1: OH no i had it out In. THE kroger I
Speaker 1: bet i left It. In KROGER so i raced back To,
Speaker 1: the Kroger and i'm flying through the store at, every
Speaker 1: place EVERY aisle i had, gone down and the PLACE
Speaker 1: where i pulled it out to try and find. A
Speaker 1: RECIPE so i DECIDED whether i was going to buy
Speaker 1: this product. Or NOT if i could find a recipe,
Speaker 1: FOR it, I would, SO anyway i can't find. THE
Speaker 1: phone i Go to lost And, found no nobody's turned
Speaker 1: in a. PHONE yet i go to the checkout and
Speaker 1: THE eyel i had checked out and asked, The, CASHIER
Speaker 1: no i didn't find, Any PHONE so, I said i
Speaker 1: must have left it in. THE cart i went back
Speaker 1: out to the cart wreck where my car was, parked
Speaker 1: ORIGINALLY and i see the CART that. I used it
Speaker 1: hadn't been taken, away yet but there's no. Phone there
Speaker 1: So then i'm in A real i'm in a. REAL
Speaker 1: panic i go HOME and i said some THINGS that
Speaker 1: i certainly can't say on the air at the top of,
Speaker 1: my lungs, very loudly and my wife is sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch just looking.
Speaker 2: At me, and go.
Speaker 1: What's wrong? WHAT'S wrong, i said? MY phone i lost
Speaker 1: my Phone at kroger. Expletive Deleted and i'm just racing
Speaker 1: through the house searching my pockets in my coat just
Speaker 1: to MAKE sure i didn't put it, in THERE and.
Speaker 1: I DIDN'T so i go back To. The kroger RIGHT
Speaker 1: before i was coming up here.
Speaker 5: To.
Speaker 1: DO something i, DON'T know i had to go, TO
Speaker 1: work i think at. The Bar so i've got about
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to go back To the kroger and. Just
Speaker 1: CHECK and i see the cart jockey out in, the lot,
Speaker 1: you know the kid who's picking up the carts and
Speaker 1: taking him in. The STORE and, i said did you
Speaker 1: happen to find an iPhone in the? Cart wreck, he
Speaker 1: said what color's? The case as soon as he said
Speaker 1: what color's? THE case, i, said ah we're getting somewhere maybe.
Speaker 1: HE found i said it's a blue otter. Box case,
Speaker 1: HE said i just turned it into customer service about five.
Speaker 1: Minutes Ago and, i'm, like oh sigh. Of, relief meanwhile
Speaker 1: my wife Had called kroger.
Speaker 2: Customer service did you give him a five dollar reward?
Speaker 1: Or anything, YOU know i was so relieved to have.
Speaker 1: MY phone I think i just raced into the store.
Speaker 1: Wild man, OH man i Should have, YOU'RE right i
Speaker 1: should have tipped him for bringing my, phone in because,
Speaker 1: you know he could have thrown, it away he could
Speaker 1: have put in his. Pocket whatever my wife has called.
Speaker 1: CUSTOMER service us had called my phone and it rang in,
Speaker 1: customer service and the woman picked, it, up, said yeah he.
Speaker 1: Was here he was looking, for it and she said
Speaker 1: he's on. His WAY so i, got up got, my
Speaker 1: phone thanked the lady profusely went. Back home the very,
Speaker 1: NEXT day i came to work here Doing my saturday
Speaker 1: morning show because that Was, a FRIDAY and i get
Speaker 1: up into the STUDIO and I realized i don't have,
Speaker 1: my PHONE and i don't need.
Speaker 2: My phone for a Lot when i'm on.
Speaker 1: The air FIGURED maybe i left it, at HOME but
Speaker 1: i was ALMOST sure i had IT when i left.
Speaker 2: The HOUSE so i go back down to. THE car.
Speaker 1: I CAN'T see i can't see the phone in the
Speaker 1: car seat or. Anything else so by This time i'm
Speaker 1: racing back up and using a station phone to call
Speaker 1: to see. IF it i can hear it, ringing ANYWHERE
Speaker 1: and i go back down to. My car can't hear
Speaker 1: the phone ringing because OF course i turned the ringer
Speaker 1: off Off and i'd taken the outer box off to,
Speaker 1: charge it so it's black and it's melding into the
Speaker 1: SEATS so i can't. See it it was underneath a
Speaker 1: folded piece of paper and envelope in the passenger seat of.
Speaker 6: The car i've bet down, that, Road man.
Speaker 2: I've, bet yeah two.
Speaker 1: Days in, A row i lost. My Phone and i'm
Speaker 1: really really concerned at this point about my cognitive abilities.
Speaker 1: Flying AWAY.
Speaker 2: So i know What, It's.
Speaker 6: Gary jeff everybody who owns a cell phone has had
Speaker 6: a problem like that once or twice so far in.
Speaker 2: Their life they, REALLY have. I know but you're. So worried.
Speaker 2: You know here's here's.
Speaker 1: The thing people are worried about you because they can't
Speaker 1: reach you consecutive days. Or something and it's not it's
Speaker 1: unusual for you to be out of pocket. Like that
Speaker 1: and the second thing that YOU and i were talking
Speaker 1: about is back in the day when we didn't have,
Speaker 1: cell phones we. Memorized numbers we had them locked in.
Speaker 1: Our head anybody important we needed, to call.
Speaker 2: We could we.
Speaker 1: COULD recall i CAN still i can still remember my
Speaker 1: parent's landline Number, In hendersonville tennessee that they had too
Speaker 1: and they don't have, it ANYMORE but i can still.
Speaker 1: REMEMBER that i can recite it. By road and now
Speaker 1: nobody remembers numbers because you just put it into. Your
Speaker 1: phone and if you're not smart enough to make a
Speaker 1: hard copy on, paper somewhere which Is what i'm gonna
Speaker 1: do as soon as we finish, this CONVERSATION.
Speaker 2: Then i did the. Other, night yeah once you lose,
Speaker 2: your phone it. Hits.
Speaker 1: YOU man i need to have some backup here In
Speaker 1: case i'm stupid or absent. Minded AGAIN and i know
Speaker 1: that's gonna. Happen eventually plus my email's on my phone,
Speaker 1: for Work and i'm not one of these people that's
Speaker 1: on my phone all. The, time Okay if i'm, Walking
Speaker 1: somewhere i'm not looking down at. My Phone if, I'm
Speaker 1: driving i'm not looking down on. My phone it just
Speaker 1: JUST when i need to, USE it i. Use IT
Speaker 1: and i don't use it To Play candy crush or
Speaker 1: any other stupid.
Speaker 6: Little, GAME absolutely i don't play any of.
Speaker 1: That CRAP so i just need it for, work basically
Speaker 1: and for home and PEOPLE that i, care about and you,
Speaker 1: know what you obviously rank as SOMEONE that i work
Speaker 1: with and care about because you're on. This Show but
Speaker 1: i've known you, for years so you're. Important TOO so
Speaker 1: I guess i'll include your NUMBER when i make my.
Speaker 1: Hard Copy, Wild man what do you think?
Speaker 2: ABOUT it i.
Speaker 6: Would HOPE so i feel. So, humbled yes.
Speaker 1: So is any of yesterday's? Goo gone are you still
Speaker 1: upset About The reds Hall of? Fame, Inductees oh i'm still.
Speaker 6: REALLY upset i can't wait till Redspets because. I'm going
Speaker 6: i'm probably Going, on friday AND if i see any
Speaker 6: Of The reds Hall of fame people out, Are there
Speaker 6: i'm going to give them a piece of. My Mind
Speaker 6: The veterans committee there needs get bully. OVERHAUL there, I
Speaker 6: mean i'll put my knowledge of six Nine of red's
Speaker 6: history up against anybody And The Reds veterans committee from
Speaker 6: nineteen fifty to date them back in time that nobody,
Speaker 6: really cares and. They don't they don't worry about, their history,
Speaker 6: you know plump nineteen fifty on back, anymore anymore which,
Speaker 6: they should because there should be a statue Of.
Speaker 2: ED rousse i was going to ask the. Vote it
Speaker 2: you were voted The.
Speaker 6: Greatest red in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Sixty nine you were you were vehement about the Fact
Speaker 1: That aaron Harang And reggie sanders made it, in yesterday
Speaker 1: and you were giving the big thumbs Up To brandon
Speaker 1: phillips and obviously Lou Sweet. Eneue panilla, all right but
Speaker 1: who else do you think should be In The reds
Speaker 1: Hall of fame that? Is not You mentioned Ed Rous, Or.
Speaker 6: Franco, john franco who Was.
Speaker 2: The role Ages Relief man award winner.
Speaker 6: Two times he has an run average of two, eighty
Speaker 6: nine and he's not In The.
Speaker 2: Reds Hall of fame as.
Speaker 6: A closer and, you know you, don't really, YOU know,
Speaker 6: I hope i Hope the reds don't take in guy's
Speaker 6: stats when they leave. The team Because At reggie, sanders
Speaker 6: case he he hit only one hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 6: Home runs he went on the hit, one hundred three
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty, home runs but he only hit one
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty five year AND like, i said, two
Speaker 6: seasons he only played eighty. One games he was the
Speaker 6: ONE thing I Remember, reggie sanders did he get the
Speaker 6: first home run A great american ballpark As A.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh PIRATE so, i mean it Is The reds Hall.
Speaker 1: Of fame it's Not The baseball Hall. Of fame it's
Speaker 1: not the multiple teams you may have. Played, with yeah
Speaker 1: what you did Is A.
Speaker 6: Red yeah so they're going to put in a subpar
Speaker 6: pitcher who was under five hundred with an run average
Speaker 6: of four or never won any. MAJOR awards i think
Speaker 6: he led the league in strikeouts, one year Whooped. To
Speaker 6: Doo But reggie sanders.
Speaker 2: Never won any.
Speaker 6: Major awards AND like i Said About, reggie sanders he
Speaker 6: had a pretty decent career after he Left. The Reds
Speaker 6: But regis sanders and, postseason play he, was. Horrible horrible
Speaker 6: he was a The that doza line and two and
Speaker 6: two of the division series that he, played in he
Speaker 6: struck out fourteen times in one series and eleven times.
Speaker 6: In another they dropped, The Ball, John Franco. Johnny edwards
Speaker 6: those are the two guys that are keep being overlooked
Speaker 6: By The Reds.
Speaker 2: Veterans.
Speaker 6: COMMITTEE why i have.
Speaker 2: No, idea yeah you have no explicable reason. For, this
Speaker 2: No And bernie. Stowe Too And.
Speaker 6: BERNIE stowe, i Mean If bertie brunneman is In The
Speaker 6: reds Hall.
Speaker 2: Of, fame yeah not a player or a man be.
Speaker 2: In There Not bertie.
Speaker 6: Stowe should be in there because he's spent sixty, SEVEN
Speaker 6: years i believe With the, reds organization he sawid, all man,
Speaker 6: the good, the bad, The ugly oh, my.
Speaker 2: God and everything. In between, all right any everything? In
Speaker 2: between you is there any other.
Speaker 1: Gu that you want to get off? Your chest and
Speaker 1: maybe we can relieve you of the gou as we
Speaker 1: leave this.
Speaker 2: This year, anything, else Well.
Speaker 6: The Bels the bengals hopefully will take care Of the
Speaker 6: browns and finish the season with three wins in. A row,
Speaker 6: of course. There's people you can't. Please them they bitch
Speaker 6: a moment and. They lose they cry like babies when.
Speaker 6: They win but that's. All right three wins in. A
Speaker 6: row how much that momentum carry over?
Speaker 2: To me that that's.
Speaker 6: Who knows but that doesn't matter. Who knows but it's
Speaker 6: nice to have free wins in a row and close out.
Speaker 6: The season people that said that they should tank and that,
Speaker 6: they're losers you. Don't Tank joe burrow wants. To Play joe.
Speaker 6: Burrow plays end, of story.
Speaker 1: All right and any hopes for twenty twenty Six wild
Speaker 1: man hope springs e turnal in a young, man's heart
Speaker 1: what about it in an old wild?
Speaker 2: Man's heart and then he hopes for twenty.
Speaker 6: Twenty, SIX yes i haven't even thought about that. So
Speaker 6: far let's, just say let's have a winning baseball season
Speaker 6: and Hopefully the bengals strike it rich in.
Speaker 2: The draft but my.
Speaker 6: Big hope is my big hope Is the bengals signed
Speaker 6: two free agents on the defensive side who will start
Speaker 6: and help.
Speaker 2: The team that's their biggest need.
Speaker 6: On defense and you, KNOW that i, know that my dog,
Speaker 6: knows that my son knows that they need help on.
Speaker 6: The defense they need to. Help defensively, they must and
Speaker 6: they've got the cap money to.
Speaker 2: Do it have you got?
Speaker 6: The Capane trey henderson ain't coming, Back here bye bye.
Speaker 1: To him it is nice To See miles murphy And
Speaker 1: Also shamar stewart starting to play like they hope they
Speaker 1: would play here at the end of.
Speaker 2: The season is, It, not.
Speaker 6: Well that's, a positive that's absolutely it's. A positive a lot,
Speaker 6: of guys, you know you have. To go, YOU know
Speaker 6: I Think al golden made the right decision that put
Speaker 6: some of the younger guys. IN there i mean everybody
Speaker 6: cried and mowed and Grown When logan. Wilson went he
Speaker 6: didn't even suit up in The last. Cowboys game he didn't.
Speaker 1: Even play, yeah yeah, all right, well listen it's it's
Speaker 1: been a great year talking, to You and i'm always
Speaker 1: glad that. YOU are i enjoy it as close of
Speaker 1: your as your phone if you have, your phone, Wild,
Speaker 1: man yes keep hold of your phone in the, new, YEAR.
Speaker 6: Buddy, I will, i will. WELL listen i have a great.
Speaker 6: New year are you having a big party at?
Speaker 1: The, bar, NO nope i do not Do Outside New.
Speaker 1: Year's eve we're going to be with our Friends, In
Speaker 1: ripley ohio at the house having a wonderful food fest
Speaker 1: and we may tip back a few And Watch ohio
Speaker 1: state And in miami go at it.
Speaker 6: Tomorrow night good people out There, In. Ripley, Ohio yes.
Speaker 6: GOD'S country I, Love.
Speaker 1: Ripley, ohio yeah, all, Right Brother Happy, New Year Happy,
Speaker 1: New Year Gary chaff, all right back to wrap up
Speaker 1: in just a moment and the words of no Less Than.
Speaker 1: Porky pig that's all folks for twenty twenty five on THE.
Speaker 1: Night CAFs hope you'll join us, next Year and God
Speaker 1: willing i'll be here in this seat with you at
Speaker 1: least a couple of nights, a week from nine till midnight.
Speaker 1: Until then may old acquaintance Be for god and never brought.
Speaker 1: To mind the national anthem follows this. Signature piece at
Speaker 1: the End Of dan fogelberg's classic Holiday Tune.
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