1 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Hey, howdy, Hello, and welcome to the last Nightcap of 2 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Here on seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff 3 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Walker reporting for duty. And as you know if you've 4 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: listened to me for a while, I love celebrating birthdays. 5 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: I love celebrating my birthday on The Willie Show last 6 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Monday on the twenty second, but I really love celebrating 7 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: other people's birthdays. And that's why every Saturday morning, when 8 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I open up my Saturday Morning edition around five point 9 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: thirty five, I start the show with a list of history, 10 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: news and notes tied to that particular date, including birthdays 11 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: that you know of people you may know. And sometimes 12 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: there were birthdays people that I know, people that listen 13 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and they request a shout out, and I'm more than 14 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: happy to indulge that and to celebrate that special day 15 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: with them. Whomever it is, it's celebrating the anniversary of 16 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: their birth, the anniversary of the day that God put 17 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: them on this earth. And tonight I'm opening this show 18 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: by saying Happy birthday to Ron and Rick Pisqually. No, 19 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: they're not married, except for the fact that they are 20 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: identical twins and they are both friends of mine and today, 21 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: on December thirtieth, they are celebrating another banner year of existence. 22 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: And I tell you what couldn't find two friendlier guys. 23 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Two guys are more fun to be around, and I 24 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: want to thank them for all they've done for me 25 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: through the years coming to the bar. And by the way, 26 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: this Thursday, on New Year's Day, will be celebrating a 27 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: new year at Huddles, the place where I sling drinks 28 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: for Hillbillies and others. And hopefully you at some point 29 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: or another in the coming year. But I encourage you 30 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: to come out on Thursday on New Year's Day to 31 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Watson Football with us, to meet the Pasqually brothers and 32 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: belatedly celebrate their birthday with a beer or whatever whatever 33 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: it is you choose to imbibe in. If nothing, the 34 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: ice water is delicious and pure at Huddles. Well, that 35 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: kind of brings to mind another thing. This could be 36 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: the last hurrah for bars like Huddles. You know, twenty 37 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: twenty five has been a really tough year for hospitality 38 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: businesses all over the Trice, all over the country. Really, 39 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: people's habits have changed. You remember famously, another Newport tavern, 40 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: the Mansion Hill Tavern, nearly closed in twenty twenty five 41 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: because of rising insurance costs and all kinds of other 42 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: obstacles that small business owners are facing these days. It 43 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: took a go Fundme page to revive and keep this 44 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: icon open, which is a haven for great blues music 45 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: and live music and their fans. Their patrons pushed them 46 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: over the line and kept them afloat. I'm hoping you'd 47 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: do the same thing for us at six twenty eight 48 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: Mama Street. But Thursday at noon we will be open 49 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: New Year's Day. Come by, say hello at least and 50 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: wish the Pasqually brothers a very happy birthday. On tonight's show, 51 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Chris Horr, who is with SAT one two three, which 52 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: is a communications company that Fame Lee helped in floodeds, 53 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: floods and hurricanes with communication for people. You know, it 54 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: wasn't just Elon Musk. But Chris Horror is going to 55 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: be here to tell you how to prepare your family 56 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: for the emergencies that may lie ahead in the new year. 57 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Hope you'll join us for that. We will do a 58 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: replay of last Saturday's Rock and Roll Archaeology, the last 59 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five with Jim Lebarber, the music Professor. 60 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Around nine thirty five or so. 61 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Just after ten o'clock is Eric Weir, who is a 62 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: financial guru that you may not have heard. 63 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: Of before, and he is. 64 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: He's something else coming up in ten thirty five day 65 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Dave Hatter with a little tech talk leading into the 66 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: new year. At eleven oh five, it's an hour of 67 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: sports for the out of sorts, including our friend the 68 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: fur Ball, Andy Furman, who has been with us all 69 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: year long, and Dennis the wild Man Walker no relation. 70 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: I swear so a fur Ball and the wild just 71 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: after eleven o'clock, and Chris Horr is next that spelled 72 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: hoaar on this last nightcap of the year on seven 73 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: hundred WLW. As I mentioned, our first guest on this 74 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: last show of twenty twenty five is a disaster response 75 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Telecom national security spokesperson for SAT one two three, Chris Horn. 76 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: And as we head into twenty twenty six, the dangers 77 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: that are out there in cyberspace and to your privacy 78 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: and everything else, the onset of AI and everything else 79 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: that is going on in our world now, how to 80 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: be prepared and how to face those challenges for yourself 81 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: personally as a business person, your family, Chris Horror, Welcome 82 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: to the Nightcap. 83 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: How are you. 84 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 4: I'm good, So thanks for having me on today. 85 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: So tell me a little bit about Set one two three. 86 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: Again we've had a couple of guests, I believe, including you, 87 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: on this particular topic. But real quickly Set one two three. 88 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: What do they do and how are they helping people 89 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: prepare well? 90 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 4: Sat one two three dot com. We provide emergency backup 91 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: communications for when the disasters strike and when the inevitable happens, 92 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: you lose power and so on. We provide satellite phone, 93 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: satellite internet units, and solar power portable generators to make 94 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: sure that you can stay connected and stay warm during 95 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: the next emergency event. 96 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Solar power generators do you guys? Obviously you're you're providing 97 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: them or selling them. What does the advantage over say 98 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: a gas powered or natural gas powered generator. 99 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: Well, when the supply chain gets disrupted by a natural 100 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: disaster or something west like a terrorist event, what you 101 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 4: see is you see gas sales. Gas supplies brian out 102 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 4: at your local gas station, your local hubway store. Because 103 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: most businesses these days operated just in time delivery system, 104 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: whereby they only keep free to five days worth of 105 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: goods on hand because they know they'll have another. 106 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: Shipment coming in. 107 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: But when those shipments stop, you're not going to be 108 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: able to get or you can have to pay more 109 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: for the gas use of that generator, whereas solar power 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: generators don't require anything like that. You set them up, 111 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: you point the panels upward, and you have basically unending, limitless. 112 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: Energy as long as the sun shining, right. 113 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: As long as the sun shining, and of course the 114 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: battery backups store power over night for when the sun 115 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: goes out, and so these things can be used to 116 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: the small devices for under hundred bucks. Can be used 117 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: to power your smaller devices, phone staff, phone stuff like 118 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: that starlink units. Bigger devices can power your entire house, 119 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: including all your lights and all your heating. 120 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that I would worry about, one of 121 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: the biggest things I would be concerned with, is like 122 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: a refrigerator. You've got your food supply there, you know, 123 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: so you've got electricity to have a you know, a 124 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: light on or powering your phone or communication device, but 125 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: you don't have enough power to keep your food from 126 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: going bad. That would be important, So you need one 127 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: of those larger kind of systems for something like that. 128 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: There's a report out that artificial intelligence is the new 129 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Cold War between the United States and particularly Communists. China 130 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: claims that the new technology is the twenty first centuries 131 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: Cold War, warning that the Chinese Communist Party is on 132 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: the cusp of becoming the world's leader in AI. There 133 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: is a great battle as to who will be the 134 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: leader in artificial intelligence? Do United States still have a 135 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: chance to overcome what China has done? 136 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: Chris, Yeah, Look, I mean there's pluses and minuses on 137 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 4: both sides of this. When it comes to China specifically, 138 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: you know, they've they've seen this coming for a while, 139 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: and that they've secured a sixty percent of the mining 140 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 4: of rare earth elements that are needed to make and 141 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 4: run AI data centers into power AI chips and so on, 142 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: and they control about ninety percent of the manufacturing of 143 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: that stuff as well. But the United States has maintained 144 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 4: it's leadership when it comes to the development of AI 145 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: programs and lms, So you know, it's six to one 146 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: help dozen to the other. But I think what we 147 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: should be worried about is China's heavy investment in electricity 148 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: production and distribution badly seem to have an edge over 149 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: ourself power grade unfortunately the whole, and not really ready 150 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 4: to handle the kind of capacity that's going to be 151 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: needed within the next few years to keep our AI 152 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: growth going well. 153 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: You know, part of the reason that China has maintained 154 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 1: this ability to have great capacity for energy and electricity 155 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: is because while they were insisting that the rest of 156 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: the world rely on wind and solar, they were building 157 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: coal fired and they still are building coal fired power 158 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: plants many a week in China, while you know, they 159 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: were talking about the West needing to reduce that with 160 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the Green New Deal stuff that was going on in 161 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: this country, which is no longer going on at the 162 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: rate it was, and the mandates are done thanks to 163 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Do you feel like the United States has 164 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: turned a corner when it comes to providing as much 165 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: power and energy as we need to. One of the 166 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: initiatives that President Trump has with the new AI data 167 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: centers is that they become their own power plants, and 168 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: they're using nuclear, they're using solar. It's an all in 169 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of approach now where the emphasis was just on 170 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: wind and solar with the previous administration. 171 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: Do you would agree or disagree? 172 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean certainly some of that is I 173 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 4: would agree with. I would also point out that, unfortunately, 174 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: last the US developed next generation clear technology in the 175 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: sixties and seventies, we just as quickly abandoned that, and 176 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: when that information became declassified, China picked it up and 177 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: ran with it and started making and producing more efficient 178 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: nuclear power with less waste. And this is again technology 179 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: we created didn't follow through on because of the you know, 180 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: kind of pushback against nuclear in the seventies. But things 181 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: like fossbree to react as molten salt core reactors are 182 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 4: far more efficient, produce more power and less input and 183 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: less waste. So yeah, on both sides of this, you know, 184 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: China is you know, is searching ahead. And of course 185 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: the CCP doesn't have to worry about regulations or environmental restrictions. 186 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: They will do whatever they see as best for themselves 187 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: and for their country, so they don't have to worry 188 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: about what anyone else thinks. So you know, in that regard, 189 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: they certainly have an edge there and are producing more 190 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: power more efficiently and now. 191 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: And Europe is certainly behind the eight ball on this 192 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: because they abandon almost everything that wasn't part of the 193 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: UNS push and the Paris climate talks and all of 194 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: this other garbage. And now they're starting to realize, hey, 195 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: we need to build some nuclear reactors again, we need 196 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: to open those, We need to have more fossil fuel 197 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: production of energy. But Europe is really behind the eight ball, 198 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: aren't they. And that's why it's a race between United 199 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: States and communist China. 200 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think you're correct in that. I would 201 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: say that what we should be doing is putting more 202 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: resources and effort into innovation, things like photonic STIPs that 203 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: require less power to run these data centers, you know, 204 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: so we can innovate our way out of some of this. 205 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: But either way, we're going to need a modern power 206 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: grid that can handle the kind of high capacity that's 207 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: going to be needed. So it's one thing to generate 208 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 4: the electricity, but if we can't move it, it's not 209 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: going to really matter. So, you know, the President did 210 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: sign the Genesis Initiative, is an executive order that puts 211 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: a lot more focus and effort to this, and the 212 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: Department of Energy is in charge of that effort. So 213 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: you know, we you know, we might be playing catch 214 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: up but you know the game isn't over yet. 215 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: No, it's going to be. 216 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: The report stated that the race for AI dominance will 217 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: be one or lost in the next five years, So 218 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty thirty is really a target date to see who 219 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: wins this race right now? 220 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: Correct? 221 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? 222 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: I mean, look, the CCP runs on these five year 223 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: plans and the latest one just started this year and 224 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: ends to twenty thirty, and their stated goal by twenty 225 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: thirty is to dominate AI worldwide. And that's not just 226 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: the production of the chips and so on, but it's 227 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: also about the setting the standards. They want to set 228 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: the standards for everyone. Here in the US we've longed 229 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 4: for a long time, we've set the standards and controlled 230 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: them on when it comes to electronics. But China, you know, 231 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: paid attention to that, and now they want to make 232 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: sure that they control the standards, the global standards for AI. 233 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: And to go along with that, they're producing millions of 234 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: new gadgets and so on that are all run with 235 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: their AI said to those standards, and they're flooding the 236 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: marketplace and the flood in the world with that. So 237 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: you know, we need to be paying attention to an 238 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: opal lot here, but certainly in the next five years, 239 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 4: you know, there's going to be a lot of change 240 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: and the race it may or may not be over, 241 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: but we can't afford to take our eye off the 242 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: ball and up for a second. 243 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: So AI is not going away anytime soon. However, it 244 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: is not the end all be all. I have a 245 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: friend who is a tech talker who will be on 246 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: tonight's program a little bit later named Dave Hatter here locally, 247 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: and he said, there are still tremendous problems with AI, 248 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: and the fact that it's going to take over everything 249 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: is It's kind of not necessarily true because there are 250 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: serious problems still with artificial intelligence, but you see it 251 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: going unabated and being the dominant force in human life 252 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: in the next ten to fifteen years. 253 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not sure I'm smart enough to give 254 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 4: you a full prediction that's worth much, but I will 255 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: say that certainly, you know there are problems. I mean, 256 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: anyone any business owner who tried to implement you know, 257 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: AI kind of as far as taking over various departments 258 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: or systems will also have seen the problems that come 259 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: with that. Even fast food drive through restaurants that have 260 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: tried to use AI to take orders of had problems. 261 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: So yeah, there are some very fundamental flaws with AI, 262 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: and I don't I think you know, when the Industrial 263 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: Revolution happened, everyone was like, oh, there's going to be 264 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: no notable need for people, and you know, machines are 265 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: going to run everything. It's like, yeah, there was certainly 266 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: a shift in the workforce and the kind of jobs 267 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: people did, and I think we're going to see that 268 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: with AI. But you know, I think we need to 269 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: be very careful about putting a AI in charge of 270 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: vital systems and UH and weapons and defense. And you 271 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: tell these when we don't fully understand how it works 272 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: and why it makes decisions and why it makes bad decisions. 273 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: Even the create you know, the so creator or godfather 274 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 4: of AI, Jeffrey Hinton, I will tell you that that 275 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: he doesn't believe that we fully understand how these these 276 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: systems operate, how they make decisions, or why. 277 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: And if we don't. 278 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: Understand that, then putting them in charge of vital infrastructure 279 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: and nuclear power generation and weapons is something we should 280 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: be very careful about. And I also don't believe that 281 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: the people making these decisions, the politicians, know anything more 282 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: than anyone else, maybe even less. So we've got to 283 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: be very careful. 284 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: Here here here. 285 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: I agree with that last statement, Chris, how heavily invested 286 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: in AIS SAT one two three. 287 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: Well, we, like other businesses, you know, are using it, 288 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: but with caution. You know, it certainly can you know, uh, 289 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: take over you know, kind of very basic operations or 290 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: even complex ones. It can help with research and so on, 291 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: but you know, we keep the human element very much involved. 292 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: Uh. 293 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: You know, we don't trust what we don't fully understand. Uh, 294 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: you know, so we use it, but we use it cautiously, trust, 295 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: but verify as our motive. 296 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 297 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Any recommendations for twenty twenty six, so, I know we 298 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: talked about having some kind of generator power that's off 299 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: the grid, particularly solar. Any other kind of predictions for 300 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: the year ahead, Chris. 301 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately, I think we're going to see more kind 302 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 4: of attacks, more cyber warfare, more cyber crime. Earlier, you 303 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: said that people are calling us the Cold War. I 304 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: see it's very much a hot war, you know, just 305 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 4: because we can't necessarily see it like you can see 306 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: moments of troops and battleships and so on, the amount 307 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: of attacks against the US government and US companies, the 308 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: US individuals increases daily made more efficient unfortunately by AI. 309 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: And we've just got to be very, very careful. You know, 310 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: when you get a message from a company that looks 311 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: like it's from them, and you know it sounds like 312 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: it's from them, you know, be very careful because it's 313 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: so easy to generate full websites that might look like 314 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: a Google or an Apple or you know, utility company. 315 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: But look at the r L. You know, you've just 316 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 4: got to be more and more capful. And just because 317 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: you might get a phone call from someone that sounds 318 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: like your boss, it might be AI generated, you know, 319 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: so you've just got to unfortunately beyond God more than ever. 320 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'll definitely be on guard for an AI generated 321 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Chris Horr. 322 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: You're already took me to him. 323 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: Damn I was duped again. Chris Horror from SAT one 324 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: two three dot com. Thank you so much for your 325 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: time and happy New Year, sir. 326 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 5: Thanks mate, Happy New Year to you. 327 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: You got it. 328 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Archaeology a replay from last Saturday, coming 329 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: up afternoons here on seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to 330 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: the Nightcap on seven hundred w L W GJ. Dubbs 331 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: in for another couple of hours here and in this 332 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: hour somebody I probably should have talked to you about 333 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: twenty years ago when I had more opportunities, say to 334 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: grow my wealth, what little there is of it. This 335 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: is one of the most successful and sought after financial 336 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: advisors anywhere in the country, and he took insights and 337 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: tools he uses and puts him into a book that's 338 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: out now. I love the title of the book too, 339 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: Who's Eating Your Pie? Essential financial advice that will transform 340 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: your life without any further ado, Eric Weir, Welcome to 341 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: the show. 342 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: How are you. 343 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me on. 344 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: By the way, I found out in doing my research 345 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: for this interview that you had a like a lifelong stutter, 346 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and yet you still were able to overcome it. 347 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean, number one, how did you overcome that? Eric? 348 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: So I went to speech therapy at age five after 349 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 7: a car wreck and a brain injury, and they said, well, 350 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 7: that's going to be hard, Eric. Odds are you'll be 351 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 7: a failure and reclusive and you won't amount to much 352 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 7: because you're not going to want to take You're not 353 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 7: going to want to engage in conversation, but that was 354 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 7: really a setup. 355 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: And then when she said, are you could view every 356 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 3: obstacle as. 357 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 7: An opportunity and learn to navigate those challenges, and you'll 358 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 7: overcome more obstacles than most people do in a lifetime 359 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 7: by the time you're eighteen. So that's how she framed it, 360 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: and from age five, I've had that mindset. Every setback 361 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 7: is an opportunity, every obstacle's an opportunity, every economic difficulty 362 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 7: is an opportunity. 363 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 3: How can I solve it? 364 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 7: So that from birth almost has been my mindset, and 365 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: that's been a big reframing that I do actually. 366 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: Almost on a daily basis. And then ultimately, at age forty, 367 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: I got over through gratitude. 368 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 7: I was hearing a pastor talked about, hey, be grateful 369 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: for what challenges you have, and I like it was 370 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 7: a church service, and like I knew that Paul had. 371 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Asked for whatever. 372 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 7: Throwing his flesh to be removed twice and got s 373 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 7: his my grace. 374 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 3: Is sufficient, So I'm I gotta want that answer. 375 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 7: I'm kind of mad, right, I'll be deal with this 376 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 7: for thirty five years, and I just thank God for 377 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 7: the stutter And it wasn't overnight, but over maybe three 378 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 7: years it went away. And I think what happened is 379 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 7: I quit fearing. 380 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: Interaction. 381 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 7: I quit anticipating this stutter, waiting for it, and. 382 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: I just said, that's just who I am. 383 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 7: I'm just gonna roll with it. If I stutter, I stuttered, 384 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 7: and I'm just gonna keep going. And at that point, 385 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 7: that change of mindset is what really transferred my life. 386 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: And that is basically a premise for everything that you 387 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: teach now and you instruct people now, because we're all 388 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: we're all encountering obstacles no matter what we do or 389 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: what we have to work with. And you know, I've 390 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: got a producer here at the station. I asked him 391 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: all the time, and I've learned to stop asking him. 392 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: I said, how are you doing today? 393 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: Liam? 394 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: He goes, best day of my life so far? He said, 395 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: I pray for adversity. I said, yeah, I bet. 396 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: I can tell you I don't do that. I get 397 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: enough without having asked for it. 398 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: So you are letting people in on the keys to 399 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: what you teach and what you help people with your 400 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: in who's eating your. 401 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 7: Pie no matter where you are. If you've had a 402 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 7: bad divorce, you've had a financial setback, bankruptcy, you know. 403 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: Loss of any kind. 404 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 7: There's hope for you, right, and you've got to start 405 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 7: from a point of your gratitude from where you are. 406 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: You don't make rass decisions. 407 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 7: You take time and you get strategic, you get clarity, 408 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 7: but then you take action. And when you take action 409 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 7: doesn't always work like you plan it. You just just 410 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 7: reevaluate and take more actions. The idea is slow, progressive 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: change instead of a rapid result. 412 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies, especially this time of year's 413 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: probably my top favorite movie is It's a Wonderful Life. 414 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: And there's a scene where there's the run on the 415 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: bank and then the building and loan is under siege 416 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: because you know, the financial picture is so bleak, and 417 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: the character George Bailey played by Jimmy Stewart tells this 418 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: group of people in his building and loan office when 419 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: they're begging for money their money. He says, Potter isn't selling, 420 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: he's buying, and why because we're panicking and he's not. 421 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: So it's very key what you just said there to 422 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: not panic, right. 423 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 7: No, you just you just can't panic, and you've got to. 424 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: You've got to realize that the ninety nine percent. 425 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 7: People are going to panic if you make decisions out 426 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 7: of fear. 427 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 5: They're there. 428 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything that worked out well. 429 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 7: And what I would tell people just just avoid fear mongering, 430 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 7: just you know, just think about you know your real 431 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 7: results and and you know the economies is where it is. 432 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 7: It's improving no matter where you are in your life 433 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 7: or in your career, or just got to lay it off. 434 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean, don't panic. 435 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 7: It doesn't help you get clarity, Take time, think, and 436 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 7: then take action. 437 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: We've all been told, or at least some of of 438 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: us have been told, that the love of money is 439 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the root of all evil. Is it moral to want 440 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: to build well for yourself? 441 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: I think it's. 442 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: I think it's let me reframe that. 443 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 7: If I want to build it to live a lifestyle that's, 444 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 7: you know, that's harmful to myself and others, then that's 445 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 7: probably not a great idea. If I want to build 446 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: it to a lifestyle that helps others, it helps myself 447 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 7: to help others and help other people, and I think 448 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 7: that's fine. 449 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: So I think I think the biggest deal is is 450 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: you know what's your purpose? 451 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 7: You know, I can say just just something simple. 452 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: I want to get to get a good shape for 453 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: my health. 454 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 7: Or you can say I want to get a good 455 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 7: shame to show my ex they shouldn't have gotten rid 456 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 7: of me. Right, they're they're both to get in good shape. 457 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 7: But there's there's different motivation. One's a great motivation, others, 458 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 7: you know, maybe not so much. 459 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: Right, So, where where does philanthropy Where where does philanthropy 460 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: fit into well building? 461 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: That's a good question because you just you just. 462 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: Talked about using wealth to help other people. 463 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, it is critical because you even if you're even 464 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 7: if you have nothing like no dollars, go volunteer a 465 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 7: half day of the shelter. 466 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: It'll change your life. 467 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 7: You'll read, You'll you'll you'll be covered up with gratitude 468 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 7: your current situation. 469 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: That's number one. Number two. 470 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 7: As you make resources, give some away, it does two things. 471 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 7: It gives It removes the poverty mindset that so many 472 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 7: of us are under for the lack of the scarcity. 473 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: If I can give a dollar to. 474 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 7: Somebody not name me, and expect nothing back in return 475 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 7: except trying to help them in their situation, I am 476 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 7: giving away my fear of scarcity in that very moment. 477 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 7: I'm no longer afraid of black. And second that just 478 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 7: frees you know, whatever you believe in, it's just what 479 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 7: comes around goes around. 480 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 3: And the Bible says, you know, it's the only way. 481 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 7: To to too, to challenge me. You know, see how 482 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: how I am. If you're you know, you're you're you're 483 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 7: giving them tithes and offering. So so, yeah, doesn't have 484 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 7: to be sure. It's gonna be people that doesn't marry 485 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 7: your faith, your religion. But it is a principle that 486 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 7: just works. 487 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: It for sure, if you give. 488 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 7: Money away, you you begin to lose your fear of black. 489 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 7: And second it begins to to build up h you. 490 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: Know, uh, if you want to use the word car 491 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: but I want to. 492 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 7: Use it comes back to you. 493 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: No, you know the Bible, what's the Bible say, It'll 494 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: be returned to you tenfold, you know, shaking. 495 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. 496 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, restore houses will be fall and running over. 497 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: So, I mean, that's that's the fact I've experienced in 498 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: my own life. 499 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 7: I've known I know a person who gives away fifty 500 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 7: percent of what they. 501 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 8: Make every year, and every three years. 502 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 7: They tripled for the last thirty years, and now they 503 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 7: give you way over a billion and now they give 504 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 7: way over a billion years and it's a big organization. 505 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: But I mean it's it's just in us. 506 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 7: It's we We don't want to do that, right, And 507 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 7: you don't have the it's started a little bit. You 508 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 7: don't have the start of the big number. But it 509 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 7: says in the word test me and see. That's the 510 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 7: only thing in scripts, the test me, test me and see. 511 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: You have helped a lot of people build wealth and 512 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: grow from recording stars to professional athletes. How do you 513 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: how do you help somebody who is not in that 514 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: pay grade, like like somebody like me? 515 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, you just take a step back. 516 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: I mean I can if I if I sat down 517 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 7: there and say, hey, do you have a self storage 518 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: in it? Maybe the answer is yes, maybe it's no, 519 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 7: But it's one hundred and fifty bucks a month from 520 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 7: Why don't you figure out how to sell that on 521 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 7: on a Facebook marketplace? 522 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: Get out of the cut that expense? You know, do 523 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: you do you spend money? Do you go. 524 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 7: Through your your automatic renewals? 525 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: You have HBO Showtime, You've got these other do you 526 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: need all those? 527 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 5: Right? 528 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 7: That's you know, thirty dollars a month and just kind 529 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 7: of look and see you. Now, you can't save your 530 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 7: way rich, right, but you can begin to cut expenses 531 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 7: a little bit, and then you redirect What if I 532 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 7: redirected that to an S and P five hundred index fund. 533 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 7: What if I redirected that to investing and launching my 534 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 7: own business. What if I took time that I'm just 535 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 7: watching television or I'm watching the Instagram or TikTok, and 536 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 7: and I do a side hustle of some sort. Right, 537 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 7: So a lot of times people are just one side hustle. 538 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: Away from changing their life. 539 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: The stock market has been reaching record highs recently, and 540 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: it looks like there's really no sign of it slowing 541 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: anytime soon. I almost kind of regarded the stock market 542 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: in general as a big giant casino. 543 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: Am I sure? 544 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: Am I thinking of it the wrong way you are? 545 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 7: And what I would say is it goes in cycles, 546 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: and I We've had a great cycle now, So that 547 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 7: means most people going, hey, I want to get in 548 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 7: ten great years. Well, it's maybe you got to think 549 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 7: long term because after up phases or sideways phases, down phases, 550 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 7: all that happens. So if you if you put money 551 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 7: in the market. You really got to think, you know 552 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 7: more than ten years and if you and you don't 553 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 7: want to look at it, but just do it, buying 554 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 7: high by low by all the time, and you'll work 555 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 7: out what you're effectively doing. If you're buy an index fund, 556 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 7: is you're buying in the top us companies, You're buying Facebook, Google, Amazon, 557 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 7: You're buying all these So you want to make sure 558 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 7: that you're that you're you know, you're you're taking a 559 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 7: long term approach. 560 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 561 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, real estate that goes up and down. Two, we're 562 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of this era where the prices I 563 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: think are really inflated. Man, they're they are way way 564 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: higher than they were they were five years ago. And 565 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: there's certainly I think in many cases overvalued right now. 566 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: And we could face another another bubble that bursts very soon, 567 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: couldn't we. 568 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been through. You got a real estate Livenince. 569 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 7: I was eighteen, so it's nineteen eighty five. 570 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: I've been through. I don't know how many. 571 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 7: Bubble bursts and they happened, but I can tell you 572 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 7: is there's nothing from nineteen eighty five that seemed overvalue, 573 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: that's overvalued now. 574 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: There's nothing from two thousand. 575 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 7: When the tech bubble or two thousand and one popped, 576 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 7: that was that was overvalued and went down forty percent. 577 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 7: That even if from US highs overvalued. Now there's nothing 578 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 7: from two thousand and nine to ten when that popped 579 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 7: and things went down. 580 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: Even before the highs, it's overvalued now. 581 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 7: So you got to keep in mind the dollar loses 582 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 7: half its value every fifteen years, so real estate, if 583 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: it just keeps up with inflation, will go up fifty 584 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 7: the next fifteen years. And that's that's it. So now 585 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 7: are their pockets one hundred percent agree? Are there scarcity 586 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 7: and there are more buyers and sellers? 587 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: Yes? 588 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 7: I agree, our interest rates up making home affordability more difficult. 589 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 7: I agree. Oh those are true. But the whole idea 590 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 7: is timing. So if it's long if you're playing the 591 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 7: long term game, the short term doesn't matter as much. 592 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: And that's the biggest thing. I want people to think. Perspective, 593 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 7: not perfection. Perspective is I want to be a homeowner 594 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: for the long term. 595 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: Okay, how do you figure that out? 596 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 7: And you know, I've bought homes at the top of 597 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 7: the market before you know, and it worked out in 598 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 7: one case, is my best investment seven years was underwater 599 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 7: seven years, and then the area took. 600 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: Off and it doubled in like the next five you know. 601 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 7: So it's hard to it's just interesting to see. But 602 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 7: it's just it's it's it's time in these markets. It's 603 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 7: not timing, and many of us think we can time 604 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 7: the markets, but it's just so difficult to do. 605 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 2: How important is entrepreneurship in building wealth to you? 606 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: For me? 607 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 7: For me, it's it's it's how I'm wired, So it's 608 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 7: critical I can build both quicker as an entrepreneur starting 609 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 7: business or creating value than anything else I've tried. Not 610 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: everyone is wired like that or even cares to do 611 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 7: like that. There's entrepreneurship carries risk and a lot of 612 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 7: things that maybe an employee does not do. An employee 613 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: carries risks too, But I would say if you're an entrepreneur, 614 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 7: there's a lot of things to try. If you're an 615 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 7: employee and you look at the four oh one K 616 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 7: plans if offered, and if you're an employee with a 617 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 7: stable job. 618 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: And you're you're still tight, figure out. 619 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 7: A side housele you can do, you know, just just 620 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 7: just something to create value for you. 621 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: Over the long home. 622 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: And if you're a salary too, it's just it's just 623 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: a little bit. 624 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 8: I mean, dude. 625 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 7: For example, if I if I was, you know, home 626 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 7: this week, and you know that their Christmas lights out, 627 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 7: I hate taking that stuff down. Uh. And if you have, 628 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 7: if you don't have a Facebook marketplace, I take down 629 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 7: Christmas lights. You go to the house, look at out 630 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 7: for how dollars they'll take down your life's two hundred dollars. 631 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: Whatever the number is, right, put. 632 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 7: Away your tree, grind it up for you. It's a number, right. 633 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 7: And if you're doing it, you have a pickup truck, 634 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 7: your real cost is just your time and and field 635 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 7: field gallons of gas. Everything else's profit. So there's always 636 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 7: something to do, and there's there's always an. 637 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Opportunity, and there's plenty to do that AI cannot do 638 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: my word. 639 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely, And. 640 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 7: And really you know there's opportunity everywhere. 641 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: What does it mean to Eric Weir when you hear 642 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 1: the term rich being rich, what does that mean to you? 643 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 4: Well? 644 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 7: Rich is really all about uh, it's individual, right, So 645 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 7: I think I think a rich life would be somebody 646 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 7: who has, uh, the relationships. 647 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: They care about are still in their life, right. I 648 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: think that's a rich life. 649 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 7: Ultimately, I think a rich life is living a life 650 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 7: that honors God. 651 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: That's a rich life. 652 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 7: I think that beyond you're talking about money, that's different. 653 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: It's like whatever's comfortable. 654 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 7: I know a bartender in New York who's married, loves 655 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 7: talking to new people every night, He's made a good living, 656 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 7: has a nice apartment, and he's thrilled. So that's a 657 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 7: rich man from a fancier perspective, and in my view, 658 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 7: based on what his objectives are. You know, So it's 659 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 7: just what are your objectives and what are you looking for? 660 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 7: And it's really different for everybody. Doesn't have to be 661 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 7: a number. It's really it's it's a lifestyle and and 662 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 7: doesn't meet your expectations. 663 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: The book is Who's Eating Your Pie? Essential financial advice. 664 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: It will transform your life. And I'll tell you what 665 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: this this conversation has really opened my eyes a little 666 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: bit too, because I'm just a schlve. I have my 667 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: I have faith in God, I have a I have 668 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: a Christian faith, and uh, you pointed to a lot 669 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: of those kind of things that have helped you and 670 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: can help others if they're so inclined. What what's one 671 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: piece of advice from the Bible that you would recommend 672 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to building wealth overall. 673 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: We've kind of talked about a few of those. 674 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 7: Don't worry about tomorrow because tomorrow has enough to concerns 675 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 7: for itself. 676 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 3: That's as one of. 677 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: My favorite I used that in a conversation with somebody 678 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: just yesterday as a matter of fact. 679 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. 680 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 7: If the Bible mentions money over fifteen hundred times, it 681 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 7: mentions love half that many times. 682 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 3: So it's important. 683 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 7: It's important, or it wouldn't be becovered so much. But 684 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 7: it's just you know, it starts with gratitude. If you 685 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 7: believe you don't own anything, you come. 686 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: With this role with nothing, you leave with nothing. I mean, 687 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: that's a great way to start. 688 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 7: And then if you can help people along the way 689 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 7: and create wealth for yourself and those around you, that's fantastic. 690 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: You know. 691 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 7: But relationships are really of value. I've met billionaires they 692 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 7: had no relationships and they were. 693 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: Not happy people. 694 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh I know, yeah, same way here, Eric, we are 695 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: a real pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for taking 696 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: time and the happy new year. I know twenty twenty 697 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: six has got a lot of obstacles and you say 698 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: that means a lot of promise, right, it does. 699 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 6: I'm ready fantastic. 700 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, great luck with the book too. Who's eating your pie? 701 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 3: Bye? 702 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 7: It's my pleasures, my pleasure, and thank you so much 703 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 7: and I appreciate it. 704 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: Eric, we are thank you so much. Man. 705 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: What a what a delightful conversation. Who's eating your pie? 706 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: If you're looking to build wealth, if you want some 707 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: good advice about your finances, no matter where you are 708 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 1: on the financial letter, and I'm kind of way down here. 709 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: It's the nightcap and we ain't done yet. Seven hundred 710 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: WLW Yes, tis the nightcap. As we continue on this 711 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening. Up next, our cyber sleof the guy is 712 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: always checking for you dangers that can be found everywhere online, 713 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: in the digital world, the Internet of things world in 714 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: which we live. 715 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 2: Dangerous Dave or. 716 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: Doomsday Dave, whatever you want to call him from intrust 717 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: it to us. Tonight, our old friend Dave Hatter rejoins, 718 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: how is your Christmas Day? 719 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm parry chat. That was pretty good, kind of 720 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 5: low key. Got spent some timeless family at some time off, 721 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: so you know, all in all, can't complain that's you. 722 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: That's perfect. 723 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Winton saw my parents down in Middle Tennessee for Christmas 724 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Eve and part of Christmas Day and drove back home. 725 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: But it was fairly low key family. Everything that was 726 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: important we got to do. So you know, that's all 727 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: that matters to me. I don't need the big wow 728 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: Christmas anymore, that's for sure. You and I have talked 729 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: extensively about avoiding Google at all CAUs Yes, but I 730 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: saw this story and I wanted to cover what it 731 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: was and have you kind of expound upon it. The 732 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: basic five words are change this Chrome setting. 733 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: Now what are we talking about? 734 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 5: Well, first off, I would recommend to all of your 735 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 5: listeners to stop using Chrome and use a privacy friendly 736 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 5: browser like Brave, Firefox, Safari something like that. You know, 737 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 5: if you're on an Apple platform already, Safari is pretty 738 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 5: pretty privacy friendly, pretty secure. That would be my recommendation. 739 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 5: You know, I have an Apple phone, but I have 740 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: Windows based devices mostly otherwise, so you know, I'm not 741 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 5: using Safario on those Windows devices. I'm typically using Brave 742 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 5: or Firefox, So that would be my first piece of advice. 743 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 5: But if you're going to continue to use Google Chrome, 744 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 5: which is still the most popular web browser out there. 745 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 5: And also I wanted to make a quick point of 746 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 5: distinction because I think people get this confused in their 747 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 5: mind when you say, like Chrome, Google and web browsing search. 748 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 5: You can use the Google search engine from any web browser, right. 749 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 5: Web browser is a piece of software like Chrome or 750 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 5: Microsoft Edge or Firefox or Brave that allows you to 751 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 5: access sites on the Internet, including the Google Search engine 752 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 5: or other search engines like the Brain search engine or Duct, 753 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 5: douct Go or Microsoft Being or something. I think a 754 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 5: lot of people kind of get this all mixed up 755 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 5: in their minds. You can use the Safari browser on 756 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 5: your Apple phone to use the Google search engine. I 757 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 5: wouldn't do that either, by the way. I would use 758 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 5: a different search engine that's not related to Google personally, again, 759 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 5: something more privacy friendly like Brave or Duct dot Go 760 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: or something like that. But the web browser is the 761 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 5: software that gives you access to websites on the Internet, right, 762 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 5: And it's pretty ubiquitous now. Most people spend most of 763 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 5: their time in a web browser, whether it's for work 764 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 5: or education or pleasure or whatever. Google Chrome is still 765 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 5: number one by a pretty good margin, and you know 766 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 5: they've enhanced its capabilities over time. It's got to build 767 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 5: in password manager and and one of the things that 768 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 5: they're pointing out of this Word's article. And I would 769 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 5: encourage people to go read this whole article because it's 770 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 5: not only got some detailed information, but also some specifics 771 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 5: about how to change very settings. But it points out 772 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 5: something that security experts have worn for a long time. 773 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 5: You should not no matter what web browser you use, 774 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 5: whether it's Firefox, Brave, trem or whatever, you really should 775 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 5: not save your passwords and other information like your address, 776 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 5: credit cards. People have gotten into the habit of okay, 777 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 5: the web browser when you go to a fill out 778 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 5: a form to buy something online will ask you, do 779 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: you want me to save this right so that it 780 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 5: can auto fill for you in the future. Well, that's 781 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 5: a bad idea. And that's really what this article is about. 782 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 5: It's about storing that information, thinking across browsers, the amount 783 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 5: of it, or across devices. You may have an Android phone, 784 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 5: a Windows desktop, an Apple tablet, and if you're using Chrome, 785 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 5: you can sink all this stuff across all three. So 786 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 5: if you have the same information available in all places. 787 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 5: And the guy that wrote this is pointing out how 788 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 5: that's a bad idea and that stuff can be stolen. 789 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 5: And again, carries you have experts have worn for a 790 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 5: long time. Do not save your password in the browser's 791 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 5: password manager. It's not as secure as like a separate 792 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 5: third party password manager like one password. So again, I 793 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: know I've been rambling for a while here. It really 794 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 5: is important for people to understand this. Again, this article 795 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 5: gets into some pretty good detail. I would advise I 796 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 5: agree with the author. I would advise you against at 797 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 5: the very least storing passwords in your browser. Get a 798 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: third party password manager again, something like one password. There 799 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 5: are plenty of good options out there and you will 800 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 5: be much better off. 801 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, one password is not a good password. 802 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: It may be a good third party third party password manager, 803 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: but not a good password. Chinese criminals are trying everything 804 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: they can to steal your credit card, therefore steal your money, 805 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: and they can do it with one text. 806 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 2: How does that work, Dave? 807 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, So this is an interesting video Wall Street Journal 808 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 5: put out that really walks through the scenario of how 809 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 5: this can be done and how easy it is. And 810 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 5: you know, people ask me all the time, well, okay, 811 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 5: I get these random texts you know why am I 812 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 5: getting it? Well, first off, you've got to understand the 813 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 5: phone system was designed a long time before anyone had 814 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 5: any idea of how it could be used to create 815 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 5: spoofed voice calls, text messages, et cetera. So it's sort 816 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 5: of inherently insecured. It's low its layer, and the Internet 817 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 5: technology that's laid over it has a lot of the 818 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 5: same problems. A lot of this stuff is designed in 819 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 5: the late sixties and early seventies when people did not 820 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 5: envision how it would be used in the future, so 821 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't have inherent security. It can be layered onto 822 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 5: it retro fitted in. But for the most part, a 823 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 5: lot of this stuff, as the most fundamental layer, is 824 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 5: just inherently insecure, which makes it easy for the bad 825 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 5: guys to spoof things, as you and I have discussed 826 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 5: many kinds, whether it's an email addraft that looks legit 827 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 5: although it's not, or a phone number that looks but not. 828 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 5: It's easy to do. Also, US phone numbers follow a 829 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 5: predictable pattern. You know, I can know I can look 830 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: at a phone number and no three digits, three digits, 831 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 5: four digits. It's trivially easy to write a program that 832 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 5: would literally create every conceivable phone number based on those patterns. 833 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 9: So the idea that whether I've got I've bought data 834 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 9: off the dark web of actual legitimate phone numbers that 835 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 9: have been captured and stolen, sold, whatever, or i just 836 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 9: generate phone numbers following. 837 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 5: That pattern right one one one one one one one two. 838 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 5: It's easy to do. So that the idea that someone 839 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 5: can send you a text or frankly, make a voice call, 840 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 5: a vision call, a voice calls you, it's a piece 841 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 5: of cake. And sadly, you know, when you get the 842 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 5: inbound text or the inbound call, the number it came 843 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 5: from can be easily spoofed, so it might look like 844 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 5: it came from the five to one to three area care, 845 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 5: it might look like it came from your bank or whatever. 846 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 5: So you know, when they do these attacks, they're relying 847 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 5: on the ease of spoofing. They're relying on the ease 848 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 5: of just blasting out hundreds of millions of these things. 849 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 5: They're relying on the fact that a lot of people 850 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 5: don't really understand how this works. And then of course 851 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 5: they're trying to socially engineer you. And then this Wall 852 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 5: Street Journal article it's actually a video that demonstrates how 853 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 5: this works. They put out that apparently on one day 854 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 5: in September of this year, three hundred and thirty thousand. 855 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 5: I'm kind of surprised that that low. Three hundred and 856 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: thirty thousand fake text were sent around this toll road scam. 857 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 5: But I also want to drive the point home. You know, 858 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 5: that's just one of many scams. I didn't your package 859 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: is delayed, there's fraud on your bank account. My second 860 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 5: oldest son got one of these yesterday. He got a 861 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 5: text It claimed that a Venmo payment was going to 862 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 5: be authorized on his bank account. They had the right 863 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 5: banks for this. Now, is that coincidence? Maybe? But again, 864 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 5: so many bleaks, breaches, your records are all out there. 865 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 5: It's not hard for criminals to buy data about you 866 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 5: and what bank you use, right, That's one of the 867 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 5: tricks they use from the social engineering angle. So we 868 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 5: got to text, oh, you know this payment is going 869 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 5: to be authorized. If this is illegitimate, you know, click here, 870 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 5: call this number whatever. So you know, again, I want 871 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 5: to drive the point home. They are coming at you 872 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 5: with every kind of scam under the sun. The toll 873 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 5: road thing was one and then they show you in 874 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 5: this article, how one you when you take debate right, okay, 875 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 5: pay this toll or we're going to repossess your car 876 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 5: or whatever they're claiming. Right. The social engineering piece and 877 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 5: one of the pieces of advice the guy gives out is, 878 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 5: you know, in genle and you and I have said 879 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 5: this many times, stop and think, but someone is not 880 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 5: going to put you in jail or repossess your car 881 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 5: for six dollars and ninety nine cents. It just it 882 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 5: doesn't make sense, right, So you know, always the advice 883 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 5: is awareness, awareness that these things are happening. Stop, take 884 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 5: a breath, think about what they're asking you to do, 885 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 5: and then you know, go out of ban if you 886 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 5: and to verify if you really think that something. 887 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: Like this is legitimate. 888 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 5: Don't call the phone numbers. They could be fake and 889 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 5: going to some call center full of con artists waiting 890 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 5: to scam you. 891 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 8: Don't click the link. 892 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 5: Certainly, don't enter your credit card or any other kind 893 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 5: of sensitive information. If it claims to be the Ohio 894 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 5: Turnpike authority, then you go to the Ohio Turnpiple look 895 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 5: them up on your own and confirm this stuff. You 896 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 5: know again it's just awareness, but they show how you know, 897 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,439 Speaker 5: once they have your credit card number, especially if they're 898 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 5: in a place like China, they won't even use it there. 899 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 5: They will literally have people somewhere back in the United 900 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 5: States like mules essentially, and they'll send the information to 901 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 5: them and have them start buying stuff there so that 902 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 5: it takes longer for your bank to trigger the fraud. 903 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 5: It's suddenly purchases are being made from China or so 904 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 5: Malia or fill in the blank, and you're an American citizen. 905 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 5: Well that you know, most banks have some very elaborate 906 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 5: and very capable fraud detection, but if the purchases are 907 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: being made in the United States, that's a lot less 908 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 5: likely to trigger that. It's a pretty interesting expose. As always, 909 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 5: be skeptical. Understand that they're making millions, if not billions 910 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 5: of dollars with these scams of ESJ and this thing says, 911 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 5: you know, experts have estimated that that's just the cold 912 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 5: scams that generated over a billion dollars. Sozy, you know, 913 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 5: they're highly wised, yeah, to keep at it, and you know, 914 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 5: expect expect more of these things. They'll just keep changing 915 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 5: the messaging and you know, trying to pray on. So 916 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 5: it's sad, but it's predictable because it's easy and they're 917 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 5: making lots of money. 918 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: I think I told you a few weeks back. 919 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: I've got a call from my bank with the bank 920 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: number on the phone, and it was obviously a scam, 921 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: and they wanted me to give the last four digits 922 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: of my Social Security number to verify and instantly. Because 923 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: of all your fine tutelage over these years, and because 924 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: I stopped and thought for a moment, I said, you 925 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: know what, I'll contact my bank, thank you, very very much. 926 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: So one bad Apple can spoil the whole bunch, or did, 927 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: at least in one case, somebody purchased at a brick 928 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: and mortar store. I didn't see where they purchased it, 929 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't really matter where. They purchased an Apple 930 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: gift card and they tried to use it, and because 931 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: Apple said this isn't legitimate or it's not good Apple 932 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: somehow wiped out their whole digital existence and took away 933 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: their Apple ID. 934 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: What's up with that? 935 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a crazy story. And you know, I 936 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 5: can only assume that what this person has written is true, 937 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 5: and they have gone back in and updated their blog 938 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 5: post on this. The major point in my mind of 939 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 5: this is that not necessarily Apple is problematic. It's that 940 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 5: we are increasingly reliant on all this digital technology, and 941 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 5: we are increasingly in the graph, if you will, of 942 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 5: a small number of large companies. You know, if you're 943 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 5: in the Apple ecosystem with an Apple phone, and I 944 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 5: know so many people who basically live out of their phone. 945 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 5: I didn't even really use computers anymore. I'm constantly amazed, 946 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 5: even like with my own kids, where they'll do things 947 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 5: on the time little screen on their phone. When they 948 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 5: could sit down at a full blown computer with a 949 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 5: full sized keyboard and a big screen, it would be 950 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 5: much easier to work. But they just don't do it. 951 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 5: And you know, whether it's the Android ecosystem from Google 952 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 5: on a phone or the Apple ecosystem or whatever, you 953 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 5: have several large companies where your ID is now essentially 954 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 5: controlled by them. And apparently what happened to this person 955 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 5: is an Apple gift card was sold somehow something was 956 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 5: off about it, and this person claims, now, again I 957 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 5: can only go by what they're claiming that basically Apple 958 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 5: somehow said, okay, this is fraudulent locked their account down, 959 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 5: lock them out of their account. Well, okay, if you're 960 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 5: on an Apple phone and you can't basically unlock your 961 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 5: phone to get to all your apps, your banking app 962 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 5: or whatever, and if you don't have a computer where 963 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 5: you can access these things and know your passwords because 964 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 5: you have a third party password manager that's not controlled 965 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 5: by Apple, the Apple password manager phone, all of a sudden, 966 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 5: you're basically locked out everything. Yes, now it's and that's 967 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 5: the thing I again, people need to realize. If you 968 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 5: get yourself completely locked into a single ecosystem where everything 969 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 5: is in there and you are entirely reliant on that, 970 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,479 Speaker 5: if for whatever reason it goes bad, you lock yourself out. 971 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: Because you know, I've seen people do this too, they 972 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 5: get themselves locked out of something. And when you try 973 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 5: to call Microsoft for Apple or Google and get help, 974 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 5: good luck with that. 975 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 976 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,919 Speaker 1: All right, Well we've only got We've only got about 977 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: four minutes for this last one, and this last piece 978 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: is probably the most crucial one we've touched on the 979 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: Department of Justice for the first time. It's a rare occasion. 980 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: Offered a warning about the site seven six'. Four explain 981 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: real quickly what seven six y four is and why 982 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: they were warning people about. 983 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 5: It, yeah seven sixty four is essentially a criminal online. 984 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 5: Gang it's kind of come to prominence here, RECENTLY i, 985 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 5: mean and probably six months, Ago i'd never heard of, 986 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 5: this and then it's kind of hit the news because, 987 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 5: essentially again it's a criminal. Gang they're typically extorting, people 988 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 5: often targeting. Children it gets into something you AND i 989 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 5: have talked about, before the idea of. Sextortion it's not 990 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 5: always focused on. THAT i, mean when you really dig into, 991 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 5: this and this was a report FROM Abc. News AGAIN 992 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 5: i encourage people go read the full, story but you've 993 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 5: got SOME doj officials now really talking about this and 994 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 5: the crazy things these people are. Doing, again it often 995 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 5: revolves around these people go. Online they pretend to be 996 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 5: a thirteen year old girl or a thirteen year old 997 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 5: boy or. Something they're in places Like, Reddit, Discord, slack video, 998 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 5: games social. Media they're going to places where kids. Are 999 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 5: they're setting up these fake, Profiles they're pretending to be other. 1000 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 5: Kids they strike up a, relationship build some. Rapport next, 1001 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 5: thing you, know they're asking for inappropriate pictures and that 1002 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 5: sort of. Thing and then as soon as the kid attends. 1003 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 5: Something then they're, like, oh, okay well now you need 1004 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 5: to start sending us money where we want you to 1005 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 5: start cutting yourself or just, again sometimes it's about, money 1006 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 5: sometimes it's not. So reading from this article before we 1007 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 5: run out of, time quote seven to sixty, four actors 1008 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 5: often groom the victims by first establishing a, trusting a 1009 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 5: romantic relationships before eventually manipulating and touristing. Them extremists control 1010 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 5: their victims through building immense. Fear they do it simply 1011 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 5: for the network's entertainment or the threat actor's own sense of. 1012 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 5: Fame the agent, said, now this is from AN fbi 1013 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 5: agent who was quoted in this. Article, again sometimes it's about. 1014 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 5: Money sometimes it's it's you, know for the reasons they 1015 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 5: stated here they the article goes into a lot more. 1016 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 5: Detail FBI's investing one of three hundred and fifty people 1017 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,720 Speaker 5: across The United states suspect with suspected ties to seven 1018 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 5: sixty four or similar. Networks SO i think the real, 1019 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 5: Takeaway Gary jeff was around of time is parents need 1020 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 5: to warn their kids about, this this idea of. Sextortion you, 1021 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 5: know numerous people kids have killed themselves because of. THIS 1022 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 5: i saw a story the other, day AND i don't 1023 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 5: have it pulled up, here but like one, kid the 1024 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 5: parents gave him a. Phone he was online On instagram 1025 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 5: for something like three days where he killed himself because of. 1026 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 5: This so you, know parents need to be talking to their. 1027 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 5: Kids they need to make sure kids. Understand, again so 1028 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 5: much of this comes back to, awareness knowing that this 1029 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 5: kind of thing is out, there warning kids about, it 1030 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 5: talking to them about who they're talking to and what 1031 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 5: they're doing. Online and you, know it's a tricky job 1032 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 5: to try to understand what your kids are doing online 1033 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 5: because even if you block things at your, house they 1034 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 5: may go next door to the neighbor's house and do 1035 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 5: it right at the. Library so again awareness is. Key 1036 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 5: but if your average parent or grandparent reads this, ARTICLE 1037 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 5: i promise you they will be infuriated and terrified at 1038 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 5: the same time at the same. Time and it's really 1039 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 5: important to get the word out about this and warn kids, 1040 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 5: that you, know anywhere they are online where they can 1041 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 5: interact with other, people there's some risk of this happening to. 1042 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: Them know who you're talking to, Always and that's again 1043 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: on THE Abc news archives and just SEARCH abc in 1044 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: seven six' four dj you'll probably find. This Story, dave 1045 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: hatter thank you. SO Much A Happy new year, to. 1046 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: You sir what was always my. 1047 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 5: Pleasure, Here yes Happy new year to You and krista 1048 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,240 Speaker 5: and all. Your listeners. 1049 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: Thank you we'll do some good, next, year hopefully because 1050 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: it's not slowing down. 1051 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: At all it's, All. Right dave thanks. 1052 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: A lot it's the nightcap and it continues with an 1053 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: hour of sports for the out, of sorts coming right 1054 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,919 Speaker 1: up into the last hour of this last night tab 1055 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five before the witching hour, of midnight and. 1056 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: Joining us first off is, my friend the fur, Of All, 1057 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: andy furman is back for another bite at. The apple 1058 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: this is Two times i've talked to you. This week 1059 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: you're getting. 1060 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 8: Pretty exhamed i'm too many for a lot. OF people 1061 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 8: i guess you know you sound like you. Will do are? 1062 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 8: YOU tired i mean it's Not Even new? Year's eveiot, 1063 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 8: Come On i'm. 1064 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm pump what are you? Talking about i've got lots. 1065 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: Of energy what's wrong? With you what's what's wrong with? 1066 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 8: Your ears, I'm fine. 1067 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm hitting so what do? 1068 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 8: You do the finger? 1069 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 5: At me what do? 1070 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: You do what do you do to Celebrate the. New 1071 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: year do you have, A, Tradition, andy. 1072 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 8: No, NOT really. I don't i take it one year at. 1073 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 8: A time i'm. VERY hot i can make it to the, 1074 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 8: next YEAR and i Think This New year's i'll probably 1075 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 8: stay home because it, predict Snow and i'll watch the 1076 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 8: Of The. Cotton, bowl oh you're. 1077 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 2: You're right What's that Georgia and old miss that's a. 1078 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 8: Big, match, no Actually it's miami's going to be playing. 1079 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 8: THAT game I, Believe Miami, Ohio state. 1080 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: Miami ohigh That's, that's uh that's like it's, seven thirty 1081 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: so tomorrow it'll be done. 1082 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,919 Speaker 2: By midnight i'll watch. 1083 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 8: IT again i watch do you? 1084 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 2: Do that do you? Go back and rewatch? 1085 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: Football games because we have all those, options now WE, got, 1086 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: Dvr now we've got replays all over. The, place SOMETIMES 1087 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: since i Don't Have amazon prime For the THURSDAY night, 1088 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: NFL games i love WATCHING The nfl network because the 1089 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 1: next day they replay IT and i just tell people at, 1090 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 1: the bar don't tell me. WHO wins i didn't see 1091 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: it last Night because i'm not. 1092 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 8: Paying for heavy duty season of college football intersecting WITH. 1093 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,479 Speaker 8: THE nfl i can't watch all. The games if people, 1094 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 8: COME out i got three four TVs going on, at 1095 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 8: Once but i'll watch. 1096 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 5: THEM all. 1097 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,840 Speaker 8: I can't i just can't. Do It so i'll watch 1098 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 8: one or two THE ones i really want, to see 1099 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 8: and the rest OF them i could go on line 1100 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 8: and get the highlights. 1101 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 3: And that's all you need. 1102 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 8: TO me i don't think anybody's going to turn a 1103 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 8: sports talk show on for results of. A game they 1104 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 8: just don't. Do. That really they may want to get 1105 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 8: a storyline in, the game like why why a coach 1106 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 8: would go for two rather? Than one like In that 1107 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 8: buffalo Game, On sunday why is he going? For two 1108 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 8: could have gone for one and gone to overtime For. 1109 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 8: The bills they maybe it could have won. An overtime 1110 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 8: that's what people want to, talk about, you know basically 1111 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 8: things within, the game but not actually they turned the 1112 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 8: game on for. The score. You, KNOW look i don't 1113 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 8: think anybody turns the game on for betting options. Or scores, 1114 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 8: you know give, me storylines that's what. They want but you, 1115 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 8: Know what i'll, tell you, that's creative. That's thinking and 1116 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 8: most of the people right now who do radio and 1117 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 8: sit behind, the microphone maybe even in the national LEVEL 1118 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 8: because i KNOW and, i listen that's what. They do 1119 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:45,439 Speaker 8: was it's easy. 1120 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 2: That way this is they just talk about scores and. Betting, 1121 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 2: lines yeah. 1122 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 8: They, DO no i understand how betting lines have taken 1123 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 8: over and people are. Into it you can do it 1124 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 8: on your phone and they sponsor a lot of the 1125 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 8: shows and things. Like That but i'm not a GUY, 1126 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 8: at Bed so i'm not interested. In that i'm. Not 1127 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 8: familing and that's FUNNY because i worked at so many 1128 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 8: racetrasts throughout, my life and, you KNOW if i made 1129 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 8: maybe a total of fifty bucks, in best my entire 1130 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 8: life was. A, lot well, YOU know. 1131 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't i don't make a lot of cocktails at 1132 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: HOME because i do that on a, regular basis three 1133 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: or four days. A week, You're RIGHT and i always wonder, about, 1134 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,479 Speaker 1: chefs chefs, you know even. Executive chefs they don't come 1135 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: home and they're like cooking. 1136 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 2: A four or five course gourmet meal because. 1137 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 8: They do that on a regular to try out and 1138 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 8: see what other. Chefs do and maybe chefs that have 1139 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 8: so sort of a, you know, a reputation they want, 1140 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 8: to say he is he really? THAT good i won't, go. 1141 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: See Right but, i'm saying when he's, off work when 1142 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: he's not on, the job that's the last thing he wants. 1143 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: To do the LAST thing i want to Do when 1144 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: i'm not working at a bar is go out to. 1145 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: A bar people invite me all the time on my, 1146 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: off days, and, LIKE no i got my fill of that. 1147 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: LAST week i would, rather stay not even on the 1148 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 1: right side of. The bar i'd rather stay. At Home 1149 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: and i'm the same way under Your. Z eve we 1150 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: are going to friend's house tomorrow Night, In. Ripley ohio 1151 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave in, the afternoon going to stay overnight 1152 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: and wake Up On New year's day and drive back 1153 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: And then i'll go. To work but as far as 1154 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: as far as going Out On New, year's eve those 1155 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,439 Speaker 1: days are long over, for me and Not because i'm old. 1156 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: And tired i'm. Just wild, you are but. 1157 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 8: You are but they're. All over you've, been there. Done 1158 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 8: that you? Know What what i'd like? To see things 1159 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 8: that i'd like. To see i'd like to See The 1160 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 8: sioux Chef With jeff ruby steakhouse in front of me 1161 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 8: in the car waiting. For McDonald's THAT'S what i would like. 1162 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 8: To do things, Like that these are the things that 1163 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 8: go through. MY mind i THINK that i would love, 1164 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 8: to see. 1165 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: But you know. 1166 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: That happens, you know that's the last thing they want 1167 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: to do is go and buy and cook a nice 1168 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: uh chamel and uh, you know do a. Lobster thermidore 1169 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: you know they're not they're they're not dining out at 1170 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: a fine dining establishment if they work. 1171 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 2: In one and That's what i'm. 1172 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: TALKING about i don't go home and do radio SHOWS 1173 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: when i don't have a, radio SHOW and i barely 1174 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: listen to radio. AT all i always TELL people i 1175 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: don't Listen when i'm, not on and the ONLY reason 1176 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: i Listened when i'm on IS because i. HAVE to 1177 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: i have to listen to. 1178 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 8: You speaking to. RADIO shows, i mean people have asked 1179 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 8: me over, the years who the best guests? You have if? 1180 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 8: You listen may you go back and listen to. A 1181 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 8: show i'm gonna be honest. WITH you i DON'T think 1182 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 8: i have one of my Shows that i've ever done 1183 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 8: being on seven HUNDRED wow E With, fox sports Although 1184 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 8: the FOX once i could probably get because we got 1185 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 8: podcasts of all. Of them but, you KNOW and i, 1186 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 8: LOOK back, i mean there's no leading WHY would i, 1187 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 8: want them. YOU know i think, my son my, Oldest, 1188 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 8: son jake has saved a couple of my shows because 1189 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 8: he used. To listen he was enamored, with it, You 1190 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 8: know so he saved a couple. Of mine have no 1191 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 8: idea where. They are but have you saved? Your shows you. 1192 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 2: Keep them there are some in archive and there are 1193 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: some that. 1194 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 1: Are not there are some shows that are obviously special, 1195 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: to me guests that are SPECIAL that i probably won't, get, 1196 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: again like, For Example, kevin wade who was an executive 1197 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: produce and writer on the Television Series, blue BLOODS which 1198 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: i and my. Wife loved his, very popular long running 1199 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Series With tom Selleck And. Donnie wahlberg but the writing 1200 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: and the casting, was excellent and a chance to pick 1201 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: his brain about one of my FAVORITE ever tv shows 1202 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: was special, to me and it was a. Great interview 1203 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,520 Speaker 1: he was a very amenable guy and easy to. Talk 1204 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: to there are some, guests, THAT yeah i kind of 1205 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: prize and, go man that was a good GET and 1206 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: i probably should archive this and. Then Others, loll ponte 1207 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine who passed gosh three four years, 1208 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: ago NOW but i have some of his shows LEFT 1209 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 1: because i just loved the tone and tambour of. HIS 1210 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: voice i loved what he said when he, said something 1211 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: and he was always saying, something intelligent aeradite, and thoughtful 1212 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and he had great. Historical References so i've got Some lowll, 1213 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: ponte shows but other, than, THAT no, I mean. 1214 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 8: I wonder If The big one has some of those 1215 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 8: shows and. 1216 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 3: ALL. 1217 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 8: Kids, o hey it's FUNNY because i REMEMBER once I 1218 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 8: Had serena. Williams on that was a. Big one i'd 1219 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 8: love to hear, that again JUST how i SOUNDED what i, 1220 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 8: Asked her, I'm sure and when she came for the 1221 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 8: for the tennis tournament, IN town I had serena on 1222 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 8: and some of the Stuff With oscar Robertson And. Pete 1223 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 8: Rose but i'll. Never forget this goes back maybe about four. 1224 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 8: YEARS ago i was on On a saturday Afternoon On 1225 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 8: Fox sports radio and My partner STEVE and. I lost this, 1226 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 8: LAST time i forgot who was already we, would talk 1227 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 8: and He Mentioned. Pete ROSE so, i said do you 1228 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,919 Speaker 8: want to Talk? To pete and he, says yeah said 1229 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 8: how can we? Do, that well after, this break we'll, 1230 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 8: get HIM and i called Him and pete went on 1231 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 8: after that we had him on for. Two segments it. 1232 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 5: Was great he. 1233 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 8: Was shocked he was SHOCKED that i could get on 1234 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 8: the poor in the Style Of. 1235 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Pete. Rose interview one you'd like to have, For, posterity. 1236 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 8: Well that Was in FOX and i can probably. Get 1237 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 8: That But serena williams was on. Seven hundred i'd like 1238 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 8: to SEE if i can. Find that but it's not a. 1239 01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 8: Big deal WHAT am i going to do? 1240 01:02:59,360 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 5: With? 1241 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 8: It really? YOU know, I mean i guess in your 1242 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 8: younger days you keep those because you send them out 1243 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 8: other radio. 1244 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: Stations as auditions, a, Resume right but you, know. 1245 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 8: What you don't even have to do that ANYMORE because 1246 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 8: i think various program directors have the opportunity to just 1247 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 8: go online and, here right. 1248 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 2: It's all over. 1249 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Everywhere today you don't have to have a little cassette 1250 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: that you hope still plays to show somebody what, you 1251 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: did which was what it. 1252 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 2: Was in the. 1253 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: OLD day i did an Interview With, will purdue the 1254 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: MULTIPLE time nba champion And former vanderbilt, basketball STAR and 1255 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 1: i love THAT because i Was a vandy. BASKETBALL fan 1256 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I Saw will purdue Play at vanderbilt and then With 1257 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,440 Speaker 1: The chicago Bulls And San antonio SPURS and i treasured, 1258 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that INTERVIEW so i logged that one and. Saved it 1259 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: let's see the radio Heroes that i've Had On american 1260 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: history on, the radio the Series that i've done here 1261 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: On the nightcap over, The Years, John Records land Decker, 1262 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: from CHICAGO who i grew up. Listening to I'd Gun, 1263 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: tom kelly who has a star On The Hollywood Walker. 1264 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 3: Thing ben channel since. 1265 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 8: Seventy three, Ye Yeah. 1266 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Flash phelps i've got some Of the flash interviews saved 1267 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: because he's such a. 1268 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 2: Great travelogue GUY and i love. 1269 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Stories about a guy who has been to all fifty 1270 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: states in all but about two, hundred counties and people 1271 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: seem to enjoy. Those, two SO like, i said there are, 1272 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: SPECIAL interviews i say this is probably not going to 1273 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: be one. 1274 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 8: Of THEM and i tell, you, what honestly to give 1275 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 8: some Kudos To matt reec from the, news department he's 1276 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 8: not a great job under one hundred years of seven 1277 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 8: hundred and some of the shows that he's pulled and 1278 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 8: you can get. Him Online so i've listened to some 1279 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 8: of those him. Been tremendous but, you know you go 1280 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 8: Back To flash PHELPS and i listen to him every 1281 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 8: now and again in the Morning when i'm not Listening To, 1282 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 8: tom brenneman and, you know he'll do trips and talk, 1283 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 8: about TRAVEL and i think that's the perfect thing people 1284 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 8: want to hear, upbeat stuff especially when the first thing in, 1285 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 8: the morning don't. YOU agree i turn on the radio, 1286 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 8: right now, And look i'm not a. Program director NEXT 1287 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 8: time i try to venture, to be want to be the, 1288 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 8: FIRST time i don't want to BE when i have 1289 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 8: no idea to. 1290 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 3: Do One but i'll tell. 1291 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 8: YOU what i having a cute ear, FOR radio i, 1292 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 8: really DO and I think i know what. PEOPLE like 1293 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 8: i KNOW what, i LIKE and i think they were 1294 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 8: kind of like top heavy and. POLITICAL talk i really 1295 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 8: Believe That jim scott was so popular and everybody. Loved 1296 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 8: him why he was. 1297 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 4: Right down in. 1298 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 8: The middle he was not a. Political guy and now 1299 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 8: you've got, political PEOPLE and i, gotta believe And maybe 1300 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 8: i'm wrong that when you take, a side. Believe It 1301 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 8: and i'm not telling you what side, to take but 1302 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 8: should one take a side behind the Microphone being Republican, 1303 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 8: And democrat you're gonna lose automatically fifty percent of. The 1304 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 8: audience you are that's how stupid these people are who. Talk, 1305 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 8: politics jim don't lose. Your audience the key is ratings. 1306 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 8: And revenue that's the key. For radio and do you 1307 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 8: want to get the radis how do you do that with. 1308 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: AN audience i have talked to many People About jim 1309 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: scott and my own personal experience with, The man god 1310 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: rest his soul was that he was truly curious. About 1311 01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: people he wasn't that enamored. With himself he would introduce himself, 1312 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: to everyone but he was curious to know when he 1313 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: met people what they did, and uh what was. 1314 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 2: Going on in. 1315 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Their lives and it showed on the air when he talked. 1316 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: To people he he had, that ability he had that 1317 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: knack to really genuinely sound like he cared about, other 1318 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: people no matter who, they were and and that was 1319 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: a remarkable gift to have and he shared with all 1320 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 1: of us for all. 1321 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 8: Those, YEARS see i would like to see Someone and, 1322 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 8: i'm like what? This week everybody is off on the. 1323 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 8: Big one but you know You Got mike Allen on 1324 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 8: andy and the phone, line handy? What? 1325 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 2: What what what do you mean? Everybody's off? I'm, ON. 1326 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 8: Yeah i mean you're on twice. A week i mean 1327 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 8: about the regular, Day shit. 1328 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm On every saturday morning for almost twenty. Nine years 1329 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: i'm A, Regular. 1330 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 8: Friday friday Monday. Through Friday look I'M not i don't 1331 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 8: put you in, a Category but i'm talking about like say, 1332 01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 8: WHEN slowan. 1333 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean like and Also ran you're you're treating, me, 1334 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: like uh. 1335 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 8: You, know what the ONLY one i think the station. 1336 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 8: Does too so that's. Another story, ALL right i was. 1337 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Going downhill, real quick, Go, ahead no so you brought. 1338 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,479 Speaker 2: It up you, brought up you brought. 1339 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: It up, you said nobody's, this WEEK so i respect. 1340 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 8: A lot of people are up. 1341 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: This, week okay. 1342 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 8: That's why you feel There's For, bill Cunningham And mike 1343 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 8: allen was filling It For, scott SLOAN and i would 1344 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 8: have loved to Have heard mike allaner just open the 1345 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 8: lines your. Great stories you know who? Does that sterling 1346 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 8: does that. A lot what, you know up the positive 1347 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 8: conversation and he gets a lot of. Phone calls and 1348 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 8: people are interested in other people's lives and what they 1349 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 8: do or did you accomplish? This year what people are 1350 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 8: gonna laugh at me, and say, you know, oh stop 1351 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 8: it really is. Too, puffy no it's not would you 1352 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 8: rather talk about that or just a politician That HATE 1353 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 8: and i know it's, out there but you know you 1354 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 8: don't need to talk about that on. The radio you 1355 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 8: get that on. The news you don't need that on the. 1356 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 8: Talk show and they've gone away from phone. Calls too 1357 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,919 Speaker 8: if you notice that he used to be. Talk radio 1358 01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 8: it's not talk. 1359 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 6: Radio radio we're on a phone call. 1360 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: RIGHT now i have phone calls, every nightcap all, Night, long. 1361 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 8: Andy not, from listeners not. 1362 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 2: From listeners sometimes they. 1363 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 8: Are, Listeners okay i'm Just saying i'm not trying to. 1364 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 8: Be critical. 1365 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: You are you're being, over, critical HYPERCRITICAL and i think 1366 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,560 Speaker 1: it's a d. 1367 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 2: THE year i think it's the way to end. 1368 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 3: The year. 1369 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 2: Correct, me so? 1370 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: How many how many listeners do you talk To On 1371 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 1: fox sports Thirteen SIXTY and I say. 1372 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 10: I don't you don't talk to listeners because On a, 1373 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 10: sunday morning On a, sunday morning you're you're going to 1374 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,640 Speaker 10: get somebody who's hungover from the. 1375 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 1: Night before it's not going to, be interesting it's not 1376 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: going to be compelling to because most people are, just 1377 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: listeners they're, not participants and they don't want to be 1378 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,719 Speaker 1: they want to, be entertained they want to hear. Something 1379 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: interesting they don't want to call. In that, you know 1380 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the three people that call in, at NIGHT and i 1381 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: learned this a long time ago on. This show the 1382 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 1: three people that will call in from nine to midnight 1383 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 1: are either sick. Of fans in, other words they just 1384 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 1: want to kiss, your butt they hate you and they 1385 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: want to debate you, on everything or. They're Drunk and 1386 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: i've got no time for nobody else who's tuning in wants. 1387 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 11: To hire any of. 1388 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,679 Speaker 2: That garbage and That's why. 1389 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 8: I'm on sunday Morning. ON fox i choose a Seven am, 1390 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 8: eastern time will be four Am. In la no one 1391 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 8: who's going to call me on the radio at four 1392 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 8: o'clock in, the morning, all right unless. They're, Drunk, really. 1393 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 2: No That's What i'm THAT'S what. 1394 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 8: I mean, I AGREE and i can't get a guest at. 1395 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 8: That hour who's gonna? CALL who i Wouldn't even i'd 1396 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 8: be embarrassed to ask somebody to be a guest at, that, 1397 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,639 Speaker 8: HOUR right i go to sometimes ten o'clock in the Morning. 1398 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 8: On sunday still It's a. Sunday morning i'm not doing. 1399 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,080 Speaker 8: That now during the Week, ON fox i call everybody 1400 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,080 Speaker 8: we Had when mike D'Antonio Was Coaching, michigan's stay we, 1401 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 8: HAD him I Had. Bill belichick you named the guests 1402 01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 8: we had him on Nationally on fox For Has Steph Corey's, 1403 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 8: steph curry he was a guest. With us i'll tell. 1404 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 8: YOU what i was shocked, with THAT and i thanked 1405 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 8: them big time because we had him on Eight, thirty 1406 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 8: easton which is five thirty his Time In. San FRANCISCO 1407 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 8: and i told my Co Host mike north at, the 1408 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 8: time there's no Way in God's Green Earth steph curry's 1409 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 8: going to be calling us at eight thirty. This morning 1410 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,800 Speaker 8: is why? Is that as it's five Thirty In. San 1411 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 8: francisco he's not. Doing that you know what. HE called 1412 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 8: i have a new found respect. 1413 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 5: For him. 1414 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: That's wonderful And If steph curry would call, ME now 1415 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: i would dump your Call and i'd put. 1416 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 2: HIM on, i should and. 1417 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 8: YOU should i wish you know why. 1418 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Why do YOU think i have? You on because you're like. 1419 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 1: A vampire you're always up at this HOUR and i 1420 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: love talking. To you so it's a it's a win win, 1421 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: for ME and i think it's a win for the 1422 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 1: listeners for the, most part because they always reference. 1423 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,559 Speaker 8: And you know what, you're SAYING and. I appreciate i appreciate. 1424 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 8: THE accolades i need. To say it's a win for. 1425 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 8: The listeners you don't know that unless you open the 1426 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 8: phones after the conversation, and, say well what do you 1427 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 8: think what can we Do to we did this show 1428 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 8: at twenty Second. 1429 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 2: AND andy i know that they're not. 1430 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,759 Speaker 3: Calling there, you know unless. 1431 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 8: YOU try i. Would try, you know when you, don't 1432 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 8: try that's when you fail. IN life i would say 1433 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 8: that you. 1434 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 2: Try that for five. 1435 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: YEARS show i tried that for five years on, this 1436 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 1: show and Nobody. Called andy and if, they did they 1437 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 1: were they hated me and hated, my guests or they. Were, drunk. 1438 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,760 Speaker 8: Okay period It's what. I'm saying at the end of, 1439 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 8: the year say it's been a. GREAT year i appreciate. 1440 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 8: Your support what can we do to revamp? This show 1441 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 8: if you have any ideas that we're here to, take them, 1442 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 8: no calls you just. 1443 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Move on how do you want to revamp something? 1444 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: That works if, it's broke don't. 1445 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 8: Fix it what are? The ratings, you know the ratings, 1446 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 8: you have you have the. 1447 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: Ratings work IT'S what i feel about how the. Show 1448 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 1: GOES and i think this is going swimmingly well except for. 1449 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: This conversation it doesn't work that way. 1450 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 8: In radio you know that you've been in radio. That 1451 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 8: long words, about ratings that's. The key i'll ask. Number 1452 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 8: one number two the thing that birks me more than anything. 1453 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 8: In LIFE but i turn on a talk Show and 1454 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 8: i'm not picking. On you i'm not when the talk show, host, 1455 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,960 Speaker 8: says hey. Good evening my Name Is, joe blow and here. 1456 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 8: You go if you want to talk, to me here's. 1457 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 8: The NUMBER and i Talked To, daryl parks our film 1458 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 8: program there at their. SEVEN hundred, I, said darrow love 1459 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 8: to listen. To this the, guy says call me because 1460 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 8: You know, I'm HERE and, I, said darrell WHY would i? 1461 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 8: Call him he has nothing for me to. Talk about 1462 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,799 Speaker 8: if he has a MONOLOGUE and i disagree, with it 1463 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 8: has all have a Comment and i'll. Call It and 1464 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 8: daryl looked at me, and says you, Know what you're 1465 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 8: a million, Percent CORRECT so i agree with you one. 1466 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 8: Thousand percent and he mentioned that in a staff meeting, 1467 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,880 Speaker 8: one time which is something you probably. Never had at 1468 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 8: seven Hundred since darrow left the. 1469 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,799 Speaker 1: Staff meeting why why are you bringing up old crap 1470 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter? 1471 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,919 Speaker 8: This month You know i'm a radio Savin an, Idiotkay 1472 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,560 Speaker 8: okay see that's. Name calling the name calling has the 1473 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 8: sad for. 1474 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: The last fifteen minutes telling me how crappy my show 1475 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: is because. 1476 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 8: You you have a mindset. Of that you twist what. 1477 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,640 Speaker 8: PEOPLE say, i look, you're successful you have. To be 1478 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 8: you've been there. This, LANGUAGE fine i. 1479 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,559 Speaker 1: WOULDN'T be i wouldn't still be on the air if 1480 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: if it Was, all landy. 1481 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 8: No doubt AND unless i don't want to go down. 1482 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 8: That road you must want to happy to have, you there. 1483 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 8: All Right but i'm just saying unless. For me, FOR 1484 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 8: me i would like to find feedback, From listeners like 1485 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 8: what do You Think jim scott has feedback all. The 1486 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 8: time cunningham. Has feedback everybody. Has feedback you don't have 1487 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,640 Speaker 8: feedback because YOU know o when the. 1488 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,439 Speaker 6: Phone Lines That's jim scott didn't know when the phone 1489 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 6: lines once in Twenty, years andy the show. 1490 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 2: Was set the show. 1491 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 8: WAS set, i mean the show. 1492 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 2: Is set he had. 1493 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 1: A show who had, an idea he had, a plan 1494 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: he had elements that appeared. 1495 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: Every morning he didn't need callers and had the. 1496 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 8: Night show The callers billy cunning him. To night When 1497 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,480 Speaker 8: when bill did ninth to midnight. 1498 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 2: Because he had, strippers on it's because he had. Strippers 1499 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 2: on yeah, He did sure, He did sure. He, Did 1500 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 2: andy we're out. Of time i'm. 1501 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 3: SO glad I think. 1502 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 2: I'm sorry this is this is such an. Upbeat way 1503 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 2: this is such an upbeat. 1504 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,720 Speaker 1: Way to end twenty. Twenty, FIVE andy i am so 1505 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: GLAD that i had, you BACK and i look forward to. 1506 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,559 Speaker 2: NEXT year i, Love You Happy new year. 1507 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:24,720 Speaker 10: To. 1508 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:29,639 Speaker 1: You bye in the words Of The great joe Nutxall 1509 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: rounding third heading for home on the last nightcap of 1510 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and joining, us now of course in 1511 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,719 Speaker 1: our hour of sports for the out of sorts and. Other, 1512 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: things uh the one the only sports, commando Himself Wild 1513 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: man walker coming back. 1514 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 2: IN now i know you were able to unload some gou. 1515 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: Yesterday on willie's show when you called in after The 1516 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: second steage report and there was some good go in. 1517 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 1: THERE night i was asking inquiring ABOUT what goo is 1518 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and how do you? Get it but apparently you say 1519 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: it's it's an. Internal thing did that Start with, andy 1520 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: McWilliams or where did that the goo things? 1521 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 2: Start Originally? 1522 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 6: WILD man i want TO say i heard it out 1523 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 6: of the Mouth Of, pete rose, really yeah or he 1524 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 6: would always say he would have He would now you 1525 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 6: KNOW what i THINK it's i think It Was, marty 1526 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 6: BRENNEMAN because I Think pete pete roseans will say case of, 1527 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,519 Speaker 6: the ass you got a case of the. 1528 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Ass, right RIGHT which I think i think is. 1529 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 1: MORE common, i, mean yeah IT'S more i, don't know 1530 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 1: it's more abrupt and more brash to say the one 1531 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: you Said that. Pete Said but brenneman dressed it up a, 1532 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: little bit made it a little bit more family friendly 1533 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 1: when he said. 1534 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 2: Of, THE goo i love case of. 1535 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 5: The. 1536 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: Goo, yeah now now how do you get the? Goo 1537 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,719 Speaker 1: gone is there a goo be gone that you use 1538 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,639 Speaker 1: other than just taking it off? 1539 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 6: Your chest you just get it off your chest and, 1540 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 6: move on or it might linger there for a couple 1541 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 6: of days if the topic. 1542 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Is hot how long have you ever let a case 1543 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:08,160 Speaker 2: of the? Goo Linger? 1544 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Wild MAN because i think it's good to give up 1545 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: that kind, of stuff that. Negative stuff You. 1546 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 6: H let's go back to two thousand. And four Maybe 1547 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,479 Speaker 6: When danny graves snitched. On Me that's i've still got 1548 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 6: to go, about That And i'll i'll never let that go. 1549 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Never, ever well how is how does That Hurt? Danny 1550 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: graves it doesn't hurt him. At all it's poison inside. Your, 1551 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 1: system no it's. 1552 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,640 Speaker 6: Not poison that feels good to get it out and 1553 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 6: let people know what a what a punk snitch, he was, 1554 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,639 Speaker 6: you know like a little old maid running and tell. 1555 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Him what did? HE tell? 1556 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 6: I forgot, He went he went and told then the 1557 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,719 Speaker 6: media Relationship Director rob BUTCHER that i used the cell 1558 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 6: Phone Of ryan friel because my cell phone crapped out 1559 01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 6: JUST before i was ready to do my final report 1560 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,240 Speaker 6: back to the radio Station With, eddie Fingers With adam 1561 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 6: Dunn and Brian. Free was we had Just Hired ryan 1562 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 6: friedle to come on the air with us once, a 1563 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,599 Speaker 6: Week So ryan frele had no problem. 1564 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,840 Speaker 3: With IT and i. 1565 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 6: Went outside outside and used, the phone gave It to, 1566 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 6: adam done he Talked, to eddie he gave it back. 1567 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 2: TO me i took it back in to give It 1568 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 2: The ryan friole couldn't. 1569 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 6: Find him the phone, Was ringing AND now i Finally 1570 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 6: found RYAN but I. 1571 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 2: Noticed graves and saw me had the Phone To. 1572 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,080 Speaker 6: Ryan, friole well then he must have stuck his nose 1573 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 6: in where it, didn't belong in which he really had. 1574 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,679 Speaker 2: No business and he went And Told rob. 1575 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 6: BUTCHER that I Used ryan friol's. Cell phone Well, Then, 1576 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 6: Ryan Uh rob butcher had a major case of. The 1577 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 6: ass and it was. 1578 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 1: Not, pretty wait wait, a minute was not Pretty That 1579 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,600 Speaker 1: rob butcher had? The ass and now you've got, the 1580 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 1: go what's the difference between a case of the ass 1581 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: and a case of? 1582 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 11: The goo? 1583 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 3: Wild? 1584 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 2: Man uh just? Butting heads? 1585 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: Butting heads so why would he have problems if You'd 1586 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 1: Hired ryan friel to do a report once a week. 1587 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,800 Speaker 1: For you wasn't he technically also a station employee as 1588 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 1: well as A rede. 1589 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,760 Speaker 6: You tell me it will both know exactly exactly. 1590 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Would be there be no conflict there, at all? 1591 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 6: All RIGHT and i TOLD and i Said To, rob 1592 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 6: butcher what's the big deal he's going to work? For 1593 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,960 Speaker 6: us and then he set a derogatory term in front 1594 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 6: of me and, then, said uh asking him to use 1595 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,519 Speaker 6: his cell phone and was the most Unprofessional thing i've. 1596 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,479 Speaker 2: EVER heard, i go what's the? 1597 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 6: Big deal, he goes give me your press pass and 1598 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,680 Speaker 6: don't ever ask me for anything. Ever again and you 1599 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 6: know what that's when you know what hit? 1600 01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 2: The fan so. 1601 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 6: They did you could have heard me yelling at him 1602 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 6: there three. 1603 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 1: Blocks away do you Think That rob butcher held on 1604 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: too that goo for a? 1605 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 8: Long? 1606 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 2: Time, no no maybe about. 1607 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 6: A year i made Up With rob butcher about three 1608 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,920 Speaker 6: four years ago before he Left. The reds, YOU know 1609 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 6: i never think it was cool, between us, you Know But. 1610 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Danny Graves that i'll. Never get i'll never forget. 1611 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,799 Speaker 6: That punk because he had no business. 1612 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: Doing that so does It Make rob butcher a bigger 1613 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,360 Speaker 1: man than you because he was able to let go 1614 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: of the goo and. 1615 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 2: You Can't i'll i'll let you make. THAT judgment I 1616 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 2: know i'm no good at. Judging PEOPLE lest i. 1617 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 5: Be. 1618 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 1: Judged, okay so so that, being said you had another 1619 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 1: phone issue a couple of. Weeks Ago and i'm only 1620 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 1: bringing this up because well It was it was. 1621 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 6: A major, phone issue not Just another it was a major. 1622 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 3: Phone issue. 1623 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,000 Speaker 1: All right you had a phone issue where your phone. 1624 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Just tanked you didn't you didn't forget, Your phone you 1625 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 1: didn't lose. Your phone the phone just took a dump 1626 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:33,919 Speaker 1: on you, Right. 1627 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 6: Right and my buddy took it up to the store 1628 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 6: to have him look, at it and, they, said well, 1629 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 6: we can't we can't do. Anything here we'll have to send, 1630 01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 6: it out and he decided to have it. Sent, out 1631 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,360 Speaker 6: well it Went, out sunday Came. Back tuesday but in, 1632 01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 6: the meantime my sonly Lives, in illinois was trying to 1633 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 6: text ME and i, wasn't responding and another buddy of 1634 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 6: mine was sending me a TEXT and i wasn't. Responding Anywhere, 1635 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 6: wild Man, WILD man i was sending you TEXT and 1636 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 6: i was calling you because we were supposed to do 1637 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 6: something for this show On, a tuesday and you didn't 1638 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,800 Speaker 6: have your, phone BACK and i. 1639 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 1: WAS concerned i was leaving you text like are you? 1640 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Still alive because you know it's just going to voicemail 1641 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: over and over again in your mailbox. Is full by, 1642 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 1: the way have you cleaned out your mailbox? Since then 1643 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,879 Speaker 1: WHY don't i don't. 1644 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 6: Even have my voicemail, set UP so i don't know 1645 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 6: where the message Is go they, Go down they must 1646 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,200 Speaker 6: Go to saturn. 1647 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 2: OR something i don't have that voicemail. SET up i 1648 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 2: shall with it all, The time. 1649 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 6: I'm not, you know it's it's bad ENOUGH that i got, 1650 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 6: to go, you know go through looking who's, called man looking, at. 1651 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 6: Emails voicemail. FORGET it i DON'T want i don't want 1652 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 6: no part. 1653 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Of that, so, listen uh and YOU and i were 1654 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 1: talking about this because a couple of, WEEKS ago i 1655 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,160 Speaker 1: famously lost my phone two days in. A row I 1656 01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 1: Had joe. Biden Moments and i'm not even sixty five at. 1657 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 8: This. 1658 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 1: Point UH and i was just like really CONCERNED that 1659 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 1: i was losing IT because i kept losing. My phone 1660 01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,639 Speaker 1: and it happened two days in. A row i went 1661 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,639 Speaker 1: to the grid. GROCERY store i Went to kroger. DOUSHIP 1662 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,160 Speaker 1: shopping I knew i had my phone with ME because 1663 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: i was calling. MY wife i was looking for Recipes while. 1664 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,920 Speaker 1: I'M shopping i put the phone down in the top of, 1665 01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 1: the cart you know that little thing the section and 1666 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 1: right by, the handle top of the cart and right 1667 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 1: right above the. Baby, Seat, ANYWAY yeah i take my 1668 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,080 Speaker 1: groceries out of. The car the phone's still, sitting there 1669 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 1: and OF course i forgot IT when i left it 1670 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 1: in the cart wreck and. Went HOME so i get 1671 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 1: home and realize and go back out to the car 1672 01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: in a. Frantic search can't find. THE phone, i, Go, 1673 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: OH no i had it out In. THE kroger I 1674 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 1: bet i left It. In KROGER so i raced back To, 1675 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,200 Speaker 1: the Kroger and i'm flying through the store at, every 1676 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 1: place EVERY aisle i had, gone down and the PLACE 1677 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 1: where i pulled it out to try and find. A 1678 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,720 Speaker 1: RECIPE so i DECIDED whether i was going to buy 1679 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,600 Speaker 1: this product. Or NOT if i could find a recipe, 1680 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: FOR it, I would, SO anyway i can't find. THE 1681 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: phone i Go to lost And, found no nobody's turned 1682 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 1: in a. PHONE yet i go to the checkout and 1683 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 1: THE eyel i had checked out and asked, The, CASHIER 1684 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 1: no i didn't find, Any PHONE so, I said i 1685 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 1: must have left it in. THE cart i went back 1686 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,080 Speaker 1: out to the cart wreck where my car was, parked 1687 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: ORIGINALLY and i see the CART that. I used it 1688 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: hadn't been taken, away yet but there's no. Phone there 1689 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 1: So then i'm in A real i'm in a. REAL 1690 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 1: panic i go HOME and i said some THINGS that 1691 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,360 Speaker 1: i certainly can't say on the air at the top of, 1692 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,479 Speaker 1: my lungs, very loudly and my wife is sitting on 1693 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 1: the couch just looking. 1694 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 2: At me, and go. 1695 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,839 Speaker 1: What's wrong? WHAT'S wrong, i said? MY phone i lost 1696 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,839 Speaker 1: my Phone at kroger. Expletive Deleted and i'm just racing 1697 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: through the house searching my pockets in my coat just 1698 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 1: to MAKE sure i didn't put it, in THERE and. 1699 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 1: I DIDN'T so i go back To. The kroger RIGHT 1700 01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: before i was coming up here. 1701 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 5: To. 1702 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: DO something i, DON'T know i had to go, TO 1703 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 1: work i think at. The Bar so i've got about 1704 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,000 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to go back To the kroger and. Just 1705 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 1: CHECK and i see the cart jockey out in, the lot, 1706 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you know the kid who's picking up the carts and 1707 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 1: taking him in. The STORE and, i said did you 1708 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,479 Speaker 1: happen to find an iPhone in the? Cart wreck, he 1709 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: said what color's? The case as soon as he said 1710 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 1: what color's? THE case, i, said ah we're getting somewhere maybe. 1711 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 1: HE found i said it's a blue otter. Box case, 1712 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: HE said i just turned it into customer service about five. 1713 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 1: Minutes Ago and, i'm, like oh sigh. Of, relief meanwhile 1714 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 1: my wife Had called kroger. 1715 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 2: Customer service did you give him a five dollar reward? 1716 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 1: Or anything, YOU know i was so relieved to have. 1717 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 1: MY phone I think i just raced into the store. 1718 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Wild man, OH man i Should have, YOU'RE right i 1719 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,880 Speaker 1: should have tipped him for bringing my, phone in because, 1720 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,519 Speaker 1: you know he could have thrown, it away he could 1721 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 1: have put in his. Pocket whatever my wife has called. 1722 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 1: CUSTOMER service us had called my phone and it rang in, 1723 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: customer service and the woman picked, it, up, said yeah he. 1724 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Was here he was looking, for it and she said 1725 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,600 Speaker 1: he's on. His WAY so i, got up got, my 1726 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 1: phone thanked the lady profusely went. Back home the very, 1727 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,919 Speaker 1: NEXT day i came to work here Doing my saturday 1728 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: morning show because that Was, a FRIDAY and i get 1729 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: up into the STUDIO and I realized i don't have, 1730 01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 1: my PHONE and i don't need. 1731 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 2: My phone for a Lot when i'm on. 1732 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: The air FIGURED maybe i left it, at HOME but 1733 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 1: i was ALMOST sure i had IT when i left. 1734 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,759 Speaker 2: The HOUSE so i go back down to. THE car. 1735 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: I CAN'T see i can't see the phone in the 1736 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: car seat or. Anything else so by This time i'm 1737 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 1: racing back up and using a station phone to call 1738 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 1: to see. IF it i can hear it, ringing ANYWHERE 1739 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 1: and i go back down to. My car can't hear 1740 01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: the phone ringing because OF course i turned the ringer 1741 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: off Off and i'd taken the outer box off to, 1742 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: charge it so it's black and it's melding into the 1743 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,360 Speaker 1: SEATS so i can't. See it it was underneath a 1744 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: folded piece of paper and envelope in the passenger seat of. 1745 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 6: The car i've bet down, that, Road man. 1746 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 2: I've, bet yeah two. 1747 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,679 Speaker 1: Days in, A row i lost. My Phone and i'm 1748 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,560 Speaker 1: really really concerned at this point about my cognitive abilities. 1749 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Flying AWAY. 1750 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:27,599 Speaker 2: So i know What, It's. 1751 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,559 Speaker 6: Gary jeff everybody who owns a cell phone has had 1752 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 6: a problem like that once or twice so far in. 1753 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Their life they, REALLY have. I know but you're. So worried. 1754 01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 2: You know here's here's. 1755 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: The thing people are worried about you because they can't 1756 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,200 Speaker 1: reach you consecutive days. Or something and it's not it's 1757 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 1: unusual for you to be out of pocket. Like that 1758 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 1: and the second thing that YOU and i were talking 1759 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,640 Speaker 1: about is back in the day when we didn't have, 1760 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: cell phones we. Memorized numbers we had them locked in. 1761 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,040 Speaker 1: Our head anybody important we needed, to call. 1762 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 2: We could we. 1763 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,080 Speaker 1: COULD recall i CAN still i can still remember my 1764 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 1: parent's landline Number, In hendersonville tennessee that they had too 1765 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: and they don't have, it ANYMORE but i can still. 1766 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,639 Speaker 1: REMEMBER that i can recite it. By road and now 1767 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 1: nobody remembers numbers because you just put it into. Your 1768 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,400 Speaker 1: phone and if you're not smart enough to make a 1769 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 1: hard copy on, paper somewhere which Is what i'm gonna 1770 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 1: do as soon as we finish, this CONVERSATION. 1771 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,920 Speaker 2: Then i did the. Other, night yeah once you lose, 1772 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 2: your phone it. Hits. 1773 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:37,040 Speaker 1: YOU man i need to have some backup here In 1774 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: case i'm stupid or absent. Minded AGAIN and i know 1775 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna. Happen eventually plus my email's on my phone, 1776 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 1: for Work and i'm not one of these people that's 1777 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,719 Speaker 1: on my phone all. The, time Okay if i'm, Walking 1778 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 1: somewhere i'm not looking down at. My Phone if, I'm 1779 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 1: driving i'm not looking down on. My phone it just 1780 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 1: JUST when i need to, USE it i. Use IT 1781 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 1: and i don't use it To Play candy crush or 1782 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 1: any other stupid. 1783 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:06,479 Speaker 6: Little, GAME absolutely i don't play any of. 1784 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: That CRAP so i just need it for, work basically 1785 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 1: and for home and PEOPLE that i, care about and you, 1786 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 1: know what you obviously rank as SOMEONE that i work 1787 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 1: with and care about because you're on. This Show but 1788 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: i've known you, for years so you're. Important TOO so 1789 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 1: I guess i'll include your NUMBER when i make my. 1790 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: Hard Copy, Wild man what do you think? 1791 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:27,560 Speaker 2: ABOUT it i. 1792 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 6: Would HOPE so i feel. So, humbled yes. 1793 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: So is any of yesterday's? Goo gone are you still 1794 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 1: upset About The reds Hall of? Fame, Inductees oh i'm still. 1795 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 6: REALLY upset i can't wait till Redspets because. I'm going 1796 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 6: i'm probably Going, on friday AND if i see any 1797 01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 6: Of The reds Hall of fame people out, Are there 1798 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 6: i'm going to give them a piece of. My Mind 1799 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,080 Speaker 6: The veterans committee there needs get bully. OVERHAUL there, I 1800 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 6: mean i'll put my knowledge of six Nine of red's 1801 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 6: history up against anybody And The Reds veterans committee from 1802 01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 6: nineteen fifty to date them back in time that nobody, 1803 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 6: really cares and. They don't they don't worry about, their history, 1804 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,599 Speaker 6: you know plump nineteen fifty on back, anymore anymore which, 1805 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 6: they should because there should be a statue Of. 1806 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 2: ED rousse i was going to ask the. Vote it 1807 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 2: you were voted The. 1808 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 6: Greatest red in nineteen. 1809 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 1: Sixty nine you were you were vehement about the Fact 1810 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 1: That aaron Harang And reggie sanders made it, in yesterday 1811 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: and you were giving the big thumbs Up To brandon 1812 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:31,760 Speaker 1: phillips and obviously Lou Sweet. Eneue panilla, all right but 1813 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,679 Speaker 1: who else do you think should be In The reds 1814 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 1: Hall of fame that? Is not You mentioned Ed Rous, Or. 1815 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 6: Franco, john franco who Was. 1816 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 2: The role Ages Relief man award winner. 1817 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 6: Two times he has an run average of two, eighty 1818 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 6: nine and he's not In The. 1819 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 2: Reds Hall of fame as. 1820 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 6: A closer and, you know you, don't really, YOU know, 1821 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 6: I hope i Hope the reds don't take in guy's 1822 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,879 Speaker 6: stats when they leave. The team Because At reggie, sanders 1823 01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 6: case he he hit only one hundred and twenty five. 1824 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 6: Home runs he went on the hit, one hundred three 1825 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,559 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty, home runs but he only hit one 1826 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 6: hundred and twenty five year AND like, i said, two 1827 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 6: seasons he only played eighty. One games he was the 1828 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,160 Speaker 6: ONE thing I Remember, reggie sanders did he get the 1829 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 6: first home run A great american ballpark As A. 1830 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:20,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh PIRATE so, i mean it Is The reds Hall. 1831 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 1: Of fame it's Not The baseball Hall. Of fame it's 1832 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 1: not the multiple teams you may have. Played, with yeah 1833 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:28,320 Speaker 1: what you did Is A. 1834 01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 6: Red yeah so they're going to put in a subpar 1835 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,799 Speaker 6: pitcher who was under five hundred with an run average 1836 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 6: of four or never won any. MAJOR awards i think 1837 01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,439 Speaker 6: he led the league in strikeouts, one year Whooped. To 1838 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,560 Speaker 6: Doo But reggie sanders. 1839 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 2: Never won any. 1840 01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,600 Speaker 6: Major awards AND like i Said About, reggie sanders he 1841 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 6: had a pretty decent career after he Left. The Reds 1842 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:53,360 Speaker 6: But regis sanders and, postseason play he, was. Horrible horrible 1843 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:55,880 Speaker 6: he was a The that doza line and two and 1844 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,640 Speaker 6: two of the division series that he, played in he 1845 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 6: struck out fourteen times in one series and eleven times. 1846 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:06,719 Speaker 6: In another they dropped, The Ball, John Franco. Johnny edwards 1847 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,799 Speaker 6: those are the two guys that are keep being overlooked 1848 01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,240 Speaker 6: By The Reds. 1849 01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 2: Veterans. 1850 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 6: COMMITTEE why i have. 1851 01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,680 Speaker 2: No, idea yeah you have no explicable reason. For, this 1852 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 2: No And bernie. Stowe Too And. 1853 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 6: BERNIE stowe, i Mean If bertie brunneman is In The 1854 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 6: reds Hall. 1855 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,680 Speaker 2: Of, fame yeah not a player or a man be. 1856 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,520 Speaker 2: In There Not bertie. 1857 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 6: Stowe should be in there because he's spent sixty, SEVEN 1858 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 6: years i believe With the, reds organization he sawid, all man, 1859 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 6: the good, the bad, The ugly oh, my. 1860 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,640 Speaker 2: God and everything. In between, all right any everything? In 1861 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 2: between you is there any other. 1862 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,800 Speaker 1: Gu that you want to get off? Your chest and 1863 01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe we can relieve you of the gou as we 1864 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: leave this. 1865 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 2: This year, anything, else Well. 1866 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 6: The Bels the bengals hopefully will take care Of the 1867 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,400 Speaker 6: browns and finish the season with three wins in. A row, 1868 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,760 Speaker 6: of course. There's people you can't. Please them they bitch 1869 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 6: a moment and. They lose they cry like babies when. 1870 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,479 Speaker 6: They win but that's. All right three wins in. A 1871 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,679 Speaker 6: row how much that momentum carry over? 1872 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 2: To me that that's. 1873 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 6: Who knows but that doesn't matter. Who knows but it's 1874 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,400 Speaker 6: nice to have free wins in a row and close out. 1875 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,439 Speaker 6: The season people that said that they should tank and that, 1876 01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 6: they're losers you. Don't Tank joe burrow wants. To Play joe. 1877 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,480 Speaker 6: Burrow plays end, of story. 1878 01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 1: All right and any hopes for twenty twenty Six wild 1879 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 1: man hope springs e turnal in a young, man's heart 1880 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 1: what about it in an old wild? 1881 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:29,519 Speaker 2: Man's heart and then he hopes for twenty. 1882 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,640 Speaker 6: Twenty, SIX yes i haven't even thought about that. So 1883 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,200 Speaker 6: far let's, just say let's have a winning baseball season 1884 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 6: and Hopefully the bengals strike it rich in. 1885 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 2: The draft but my. 1886 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 6: Big hope is my big hope Is the bengals signed 1887 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,400 Speaker 6: two free agents on the defensive side who will start 1888 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:46,800 Speaker 6: and help. 1889 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,439 Speaker 2: The team that's their biggest need. 1890 01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 6: On defense and you, KNOW that i, know that my dog, 1891 01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 6: knows that my son knows that they need help on. 1892 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:57,600 Speaker 6: The defense they need to. Help defensively, they must and 1893 01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 6: they've got the cap money to. 1894 01:31:58,800 --> 01:31:59,840 Speaker 2: Do it have you got? 1895 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 6: The Capane trey henderson ain't coming, Back here bye bye. 1896 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,479 Speaker 1: To him it is nice To See miles murphy And 1897 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,479 Speaker 1: Also shamar stewart starting to play like they hope they 1898 01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 1: would play here at the end of. 1899 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:11,559 Speaker 2: The season is, It, not. 1900 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,559 Speaker 6: Well that's, a positive that's absolutely it's. A positive a lot, 1901 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,640 Speaker 6: of guys, you know you have. To go, YOU know 1902 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,800 Speaker 6: I Think al golden made the right decision that put 1903 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 6: some of the younger guys. IN there i mean everybody 1904 01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,160 Speaker 6: cried and mowed and Grown When logan. Wilson went he 1905 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 6: didn't even suit up in The last. Cowboys game he didn't. 1906 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 1: Even play, yeah yeah, all right, well listen it's it's 1907 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,519 Speaker 1: been a great year talking, to You and i'm always 1908 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 1: glad that. YOU are i enjoy it as close of 1909 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 1: your as your phone if you have, your phone, Wild, 1910 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:47,439 Speaker 1: man yes keep hold of your phone in the, new, YEAR. 1911 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 6: Buddy, I will, i will. WELL listen i have a great. 1912 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:52,599 Speaker 6: New year are you having a big party at? 1913 01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 1: The, bar, NO nope i do not Do Outside New. 1914 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Year's eve we're going to be with our Friends, In 1915 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,719 Speaker 1: ripley ohio at the house having a wonderful food fest 1916 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 1: and we may tip back a few And Watch ohio 1917 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:10,360 Speaker 1: state And in miami go at it. 1918 01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:14,000 Speaker 6: Tomorrow night good people out There, In. Ripley, Ohio yes. 1919 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 6: GOD'S country I, Love. 1920 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,639 Speaker 1: Ripley, ohio yeah, all, Right Brother Happy, New Year Happy, 1921 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 1: New Year Gary chaff, all right back to wrap up 1922 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:26,680 Speaker 1: in just a moment and the words of no Less Than. 1923 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Porky pig that's all folks for twenty twenty five on THE. 1924 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,639 Speaker 1: Night CAFs hope you'll join us, next Year and God 1925 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,080 Speaker 1: willing i'll be here in this seat with you at 1926 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 1: least a couple of nights, a week from nine till midnight. 1927 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:44,799 Speaker 1: Until then may old acquaintance Be for god and never brought. 1928 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:51,680 Speaker 1: To mind the national anthem follows this. Signature piece at 1929 01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:59,560 Speaker 1: the End Of dan fogelberg's classic Holiday Tune. 1930 01:33:58,760 --> 01:35:03,240 Speaker 11: Bye, bye leaving came the a