1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, I want to thank you for playing those 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: speeches today. I know Kennedy nor Trump is perfect, but 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Kennedy was the last president I trusted until Trump, and 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: hearing that stuff today helps reignite my love for my country. 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. The past three hours. 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: Have been an example of I do show prep. This 7 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: is something that I think is important. It's something that 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 3: interests me. He gives you some perspective and I think 9 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 3: it's something that we lack in our twenty four hour, 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: seven day a week news cycle. I know, you know, 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: even my own program directory might object. Hey, you went 12 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: on too long for that, really, because I bet there's 13 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: I bet we got some p ones that listened all 14 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: three hours of that, And if you didn't, I bet 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: there's some Pea ones or some other listeners that will. Oh, 16 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, I want to hear what else he had 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: to say about what was Eisenhower doing? What really happened? 18 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: And you go listen to the podcast submission accomplished. We 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: talked yesterday about Judge Immergut, the judge in Oregon, and 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: the timeline that we went through detailed timeline of her 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: decisions about preventing Trump from deploying the national guard in Oregon. 22 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: And one of the. 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: Things that I probably didn't emphasize enough, but I want 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: to make sure you understand before I launch into this 25 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: next topic about judicial impeachment is something that she did. Now, 26 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: granted my standard caveat here, this is based on research 27 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: that I did before I went to bed last night. 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: So who knows what she did, because remember she's also 29 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: the one that was issuing temporary restraining orders on a 30 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: weekend and on a Sunday. But best I can tell, 31 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: she still has a tro a temporary restraining order preventing 32 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: Trump from doing something that he had. 33 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Not yet done. 34 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: Well, that's like Dragon going to get a temporary restraining 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: order or asking for a restraining order against me to stay. 36 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: How many feet are part are we? Are we fifty 37 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: feet apart? Maybe I'd say closer to thirty thirty, So 38 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: we're thirty feet apart. That I can't get closer than 39 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: thirty feet because well, I haven't you know, it's I 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,279 Speaker 3: missed the first of the month bath, so I stink. Well, 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: I haven't come near him yet. I haven't done anything yet. 42 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: So he's probably not going to get a restraining order 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: because there's nothing upon which a court to for a 44 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: court to ask to act. And that's the same with 45 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: issuing a temporary restraining order to stop a president from 46 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: doing something that he hasn't done. Now, has he done 47 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: it elsewhere, yes, but that's not what's before the court. Remember, 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: these restraining orders are supposed to be about action that 49 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: is occurring in front of you. That's why we had 50 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: If you go back and you dig into the archives 51 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: of this program, that you will see that we were 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: objecting to running to a judge in Texas to stop 53 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: Trump from doing something in another state, or running to 54 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: a judge in d C to stop him from doing 55 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: something in California. You need the judges. You have to 56 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: have standing, and the judges have to have a case 57 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: in controversy in front of them, and they have to 58 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: have jurisdiction over those parties. So how do you fix 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: this problem or how do you address the problem, Because 60 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if this will fix the problem, but 61 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: it might address the problem. But the problem that we 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: face is it's a predicament. Federal district judges in just 63 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: a handful of courthouses are issuing these temporary restraining orders, 64 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: and they're also issuing those you know, nationwide injunctions that 65 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: we've talked about, And what that does is that halt's 66 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: lawful executive action, even after a Supreme Court limits nationwide 67 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: relief in the absence of certifying under the class action 68 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: lawsuits certifying a particular class, which is not that easy 69 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: to do. So you just can't say that the class 70 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: includes all illegal aliens or all people present within the 71 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: borders of the United States without lawful authority. You just 72 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: can't make it that broad. Got to define the class. 73 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: So these judges kind of put themselves between the elected 74 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: policy and execution, and they know that the appeals take 75 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: time and that a victory on the merits that might 76 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: be against them the judge, a victory on the merits 77 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: in the Supreme Court that only comes about after months 78 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: of mischief, after months of these things going on. So 79 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: I just ask you a simple question. Do you know 80 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: how I'm a stickler, a real stickler about following the law, 81 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: and that it's frustrating at times because following the law 82 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: means that a judge or an actor does something that 83 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: I disagree with, and I say, well, we can either 84 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: fix that politically by removing that person from office through 85 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 3: impeachment or through an election, or we can if you 86 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: have a basis to do so, you can sue that individual. 87 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: But now you've got well, you've got scheduling conferences, you've 88 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: got interrogatories, you've got depositions, you got all the discovery. 89 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: Then you have all the pre trial motions that if 90 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: you're going to a jury trial, you'll have all of that, 91 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: and then you have the appeals. And then someday, when 92 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: you're one hundred and twenty five years old, you might 93 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: make it to the US Supreme Court. It takes time, 94 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: but again that's because we're a nation of laws, not 95 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: a nation of men. But I ask you a question. 96 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: Does Congress have to sit back and not do anything? 97 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: Does Congress just simply have to wait for the Supreme 98 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: Court to make a decision about nationwide injunctions before they 99 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: could do something. No, the Constitution actually gives the Congress 100 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: a tool that does not depend on Senate boats. 101 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: For removal. 102 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: Impeachment. You may think you understand everything about impeachment. I 103 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: don't think I understand everything about impeachment. I do understand 104 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: this getting impeached that acts as it deterred. I told 105 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: you one of my biggest fears in life is ever having, 106 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, getting you know, unlawfully thrown in jail somewhere. 107 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: I've been in jails when I was a baby lawyer. 108 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: I represented a lot of people that were were denied 109 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: bail in a couple of murder cases and in a 110 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: situation where they couldn't afford bail. So I kind of 111 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: know what like county jails are like. And I've visited 112 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: some state penitentiaries. I've never been to Supermax. I'd love 113 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: to go visit Supermax, simply because I'd like to see 114 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: what it's like in person. But I have this inordinate 115 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: and irrational fear of being jailed that acts as a deterrent. 116 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: I'm prone to be a law abiding, moral citizen, but 117 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: who knows, in these days you can get if you 118 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: can get arrested for posting a meme, I could be 119 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: arrested for something I said on the air. 120 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: Who knows. 121 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just who knows. The Constitution supplies that tool, impeachment, 122 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: and if properly used, it can act as a deterrent 123 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: because removal from you know, removal of somebody is not 124 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: the only point of impeachment. I've told you about. Alsie Hastings, 125 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: the judge, the former federal judge in Florida who was impeached. 126 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: He was found guilty by the US Senate, and he 127 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: was removed from his lifetime appointment as a federal judge 128 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: in Florida. But being the idiots that we are and 129 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: the idiots in that particul the congressional district, he got 130 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: elected to Congress. But I'm telling you, punishment by process, 131 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: reputational sanction, and the practical sidelining that follows impeachment are 132 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: very real to terrems. A small number of well chosen impeachments, 133 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: sustained through a full Senate trial might just change the 134 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: behavior across the entire judiciary, even if there's not one 135 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: single conviction that follows from it. I've thought long and 136 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: hard about this because the claim and my contention might 137 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: seem paradoxical. If conviction is impossible, then why even impeach. Well, 138 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: I might ask you if a district attorney or a 139 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: prosecutor sincerely believes that you committed a crime, and they 140 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: sincerely believe they have the evidence, and they an indictment 141 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: against you, but you're found not guilty because they couldn't 142 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: prove the evidence beyond the guilt beyond the reasonable doubt. 143 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: Was that a waste of time? Not necessarily so, because 144 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: it shows that if you think about committing that crime, 145 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: you're going to think about, Oh, that person went through 146 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: all of that, now, whew, they got by with it, 147 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: or they were found not guilty, or they didn't have 148 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: the evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. But 149 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: it does act as a deterrent. I think impeachment is 150 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: the same thing. You don't have to be removed from office. 151 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: In other words, the president doesn't have to be removed from office, 152 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: or a judge does not have to be removed from 153 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: the bench through impeachment. Going through the process alone sends 154 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: a signal to all the other judges, Hey, you know what, 155 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: We're pretty serious about you following the law. We're pretty 156 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: serious about you staying within your lane. We're pretty seriou 157 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: When the Supreme Court says that you should not issue 158 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: nationwide injunctions, but you continue to do so, We're going 159 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: to take it seriously and we're going to impeach you. 160 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: Hmm. 161 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Some trial judges that are acting politically might wake up 162 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: and say, I'm not sure I want to do that. 163 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: Because think of what that means. Let's just take Judge 164 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Immergut for example, out in Oregon. She would face months 165 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: of public examination, she would lose all of her case assignments. 166 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: In practice, she would be she would face I don't know, 167 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: six figure, seven figure legal expenses, and then she might 168 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: face the prospect of a Senate gallery that is listening 169 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: as the Senate reads formal accusations on Life TV. She 170 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: might actually think twice before issuing some adventurous order that 171 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: is destined ultimately to be vacated by the US Supreme Court. 172 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: To see why, I consider what impeachment is not in 173 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 3: theory but in practice. Let's talk about the practicalities of 174 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: an impeachment. So, in terms of just the Constitution itself, 175 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: it's a remedial device that the Framers put in there 176 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: to protect us by allowing a procedure to remove people 177 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: that are deemed to be unfit for office, either because 178 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: you're mentally and physically unfit or because you committed high 179 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: crimes and misdemeanors. It's a slow burning process. It's a 180 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: slow burn. The House investigates, well, that's gonna take a 181 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: lot of time. That means you're gonna have show up 182 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: for depositions. You're gonna to show up for hearings. You're 183 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: probably gonna endup on the TV. It drafts articles. Oh 184 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: now they're gonna debate those articles, and then they vote 185 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: the Senate then, you know, and if they vote to impeach, 186 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: it agains, it gets, you know, carried over to the 187 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: US Senate. Every single step is public. It's just laden 188 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: with lawyers and it's very time consuming. And I always 189 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: told clients this, Oh I want to go do so 190 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: and so, okay, well are you ready for them to 191 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: depose you? All you're thinking about is you get to 192 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: depose the person you're going after because you think they 193 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: did something wrong. Well, their lawyers get to ask you 194 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of questions. And in a deposition you can 195 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: as a lawyer, I can object till the cows come home. 196 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: But guess what, you still have to answer the question. 197 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: Because that's a deposition. You're not in the courtroom. You're 198 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 3: in some building some you're in some conference room where 199 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: there's a you know, a stenographer taking down everything. So 200 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: if I'm asking a question that is irrelevant, they can 201 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: object say it's irrelevant. I still have to answer the question. 202 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 3: So depositions are not fun things to go through because 203 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: now you're on the record. So that's what I mean 204 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: by every step is public, it's lawyer heavy, it's time consuming. 205 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: And then what happens usually well investigations. You know, something 206 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: is said or something is proven, or something is discovered, 207 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: and that investigation becomes even wider. Now witnesses get drawn in, 208 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: and if you're a smart witness, you'll probably retain a lawyer. 209 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: And then discovery starts. And when you start discovery, like 210 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: depositions or interrogatories, suddenly you start you start finding uncomfortable 211 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: facts about what goes on in speaking about a judge, 212 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: what goes on in your chamber, what kind of ex party, 213 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: or what kind of sidebars do you have that are 214 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: probably unethical, but nobody does anything about because well, that 215 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: judge and that lawyer are friends and they're just having 216 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: coffee talking about stuff. 217 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Oh really, m tell us what you talked about, you 218 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: see you. 219 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: I don't think most judges want to face an impeachment, 220 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: and then judicial counsels might step in and they would 221 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: strip an impeached judge of new case assignments or reassign 222 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: their DOCA to preserve public confidence, which means that impeached 223 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: judge is in office. And of course, yeah, they're going 224 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: to get paid, but they're just twiddling their thumbs to 225 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: paid vacation. If you love what you do, you're not 226 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: gonna like that. Oh you will for the first week 227 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: or two. But I'm talking in an impeachment process that's 228 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: going to take months, if not a year, maybe even longer. 229 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: That in and of itself, and the fact that you 230 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: have been impeached says to the public questions have been raised. Now, 231 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't want that done on a whim. I want 232 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: it done on the basis of, for example, a judge immigrant. 233 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: If Congress truly believes that they're ignoring Supreme Court directives 234 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: about nationwide injunctions, then yes, go impeach. But if you're 235 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: just impeaching because you don't like the decision of the judge, 236 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: now I think you've crossed the line. So I'm going 237 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: to be very careful that I'm very particular about. I'm 238 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: not saying, just Willy Nearly, go and peach a judge 239 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: because you don't like their rulings. Go and peach a 240 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: judge because you believe and you think you have evidence 241 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: to show that they are ignoring the law. It goes back. 242 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: Let's go back to nineteen fifty seven. Let's go back 243 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: to nineteen sixty two, nineteen sixty three, where they believed 244 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: that those governors were ignoring the Supreme Court orders. So 245 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: the executive acted. I'm just saying here, Oh, the legislative 246 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: can act because the founders gave them a mechanism. 247 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: My father in law works at super max. 248 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: Maybe I could hook you up, but it cost you lunch. 249 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: It does not shock me that he knows somebody who 250 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: works in supermacs, but it does shock me that he's married. 251 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was a good catch, very good catch. 252 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: Now here's the dilemma. You know, he's a figment of 253 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: our imagination. Yeah, we have a stereotype in our brain. 254 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: We both do of how he acts, what he looks like, 255 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: what he does everything. 256 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we can even picture his truck. 257 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: Oh, totally. In fact, think about the cab on the inside. 258 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: Disgusting. 259 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: It's like Ryan's futon, right, It's just you know, there's 260 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: cigarette cigarette burns, and there's you know, you know, paper 261 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: rappers from the burgers and the cheeseburgers, The lot Lizard 262 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: stains everywhere. I mean, it's it's pretty disgusting, right it 263 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: probably probably you know exactly Tamer's dad would do that. 264 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: He go pheasant hunting and think he got all the 265 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: pheasants out of the back. But you know, we climb 266 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: in and oh what what's Oh how long has this 267 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 3: pheasant been under the seat? Oh yeah, I think there's 268 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: that going on. Uh, he's got his radio cranked up, 269 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: listening to us, and he's he's weaving down the highway, 270 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: call of like Chevy Chase, you know in one of 271 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: the vacation movies, just weaving in and out of traffic, 272 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 3: scaring the hell out of everybody. And we're gonna go 273 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: to Florence. I mean, we're not gonna ride. I'm not 274 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: gonna ride in the truck with him. There's no way 275 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: that's happening. But does he meet us there? Or does 276 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: he do we have lunch with him here? I I 277 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: worry about I can get the I can get the 278 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: old security detailed gang back together, and they could, you know, 279 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: like just kind of come along with us, not that 280 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: I don't trust him or anything, and I don't trust him. 281 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 4: Do we have to have lunch with him? Or can 282 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 4: we just deal. All right, here's you know, five dollars 283 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: in McDonald's money in the Monopoly games coming back. Can 284 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: we just give him one of the stickers it's free fries. 285 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: Let's just go through and pick up a couple of 286 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: cheeseburgers for ourselves and then just give him but the 287 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: monopoly stickers inside your ears lunch. Or I'll get him 288 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: a McDonald's a gift card. That's what I'll do. I'll 289 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 3: go and get him a gift card, you know, at 290 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: the same time that I'm buying the dogs there McDonald's. 291 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: I'll get one for that dog. And then the whole 292 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: question is what would happen if I mean, I know 293 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: what you look like. Unfortunately I know what I look like. 294 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: We have in our minds what we think he looks like. 295 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: I know how you act in public. I know how 296 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I will I. Oh, you know, I'm very esteemed in public, 297 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 3: so I would have to, you know, lower my standards. 298 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: But how would the three of us be perceived sitting 299 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: in a either I don't care pick either a greasy 300 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: diner or a hoity toity restaurant. How's that going to 301 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: be perceived by the public? And what if people wreck. 302 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: I mean, then you know, will be recognized in Supermax, 303 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: probably think we're belonging there and not let us out right. 304 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: And then that's my fear. I mean, this is this 305 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: is his brother in law, and they probably both owe 306 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: each other favors. So when I want to see, you know, 307 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 3: like one of the cells, and I hear the door moving, 308 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: do I have time to jump out? 309 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 4: You're gonna have the Indiana Joe and your way out right? 310 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Or do I get stuck in a cell? And then 311 00:20:54,359 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: I hear that laugh. I hear the laugh, and then 312 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: the sun starts. 313 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: To go down, and then pretty soon it's dark. 314 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: And I'm screaming and yelling, and you two have gone 315 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: off to Pueblo somewhere to have dinner. Well you are, 316 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: You're You're in Wallsenburg at the truck stop looking for 317 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: a lot lizards. You know, it's a good thing that 318 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: I don't own any assets, because he'd be suing me 319 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: for libel and slander right now. But there's there's nothing 320 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: to get So to think that we're spending this much 321 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: time on air valuable? Is this time valuable or not? 322 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. I don't read that it's really 323 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: valuable or not, But regardless, we're spending airtime discussing a 324 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: what I believe to be a P one listener. 325 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether we really want to. 326 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: Risk our lives, our reputations, our marriages, everything. You'll have 327 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: lunch with that dirt bag? Do we really want to 328 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: do that? 329 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 4: Trying to think is there any one of our listeners, 330 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: any of the twelve that we may want to have 331 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: lunch with or anything? And I just it was just thinking, 332 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: we haven't heard from our favorite Jew. We've got this 333 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 4: great news. 334 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm worried about him. Isn't he the white 335 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: had prostate cancer? 336 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, we need to hear from our favorite from 337 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: what we were told he had a while still. Yeah, 338 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: but so favorite Jew out there, Yeah, we need to 339 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: hear from you. We need an update. 340 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 341 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: The show's almost over today, so so feel free leave 342 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 4: to talk back over the evening and the afternoon and 343 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: I'll play it tomorrow. 344 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: So now, is it is it wrong to say that 345 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: we would go have lunch of dinner with the Jew? 346 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: But the dumb white guy, the dumb white truck driver, 347 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm assuming he's white. 348 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't know why. I think because of the laugh. 349 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: Oh, the only catches we'll have to pay for one 350 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: of them versus the other. Not the probably not the other. 351 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: What you decided which is which is the truck driver 352 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: or the Jew? 353 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: So the question for the day is who's gonna buy 354 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: lunch for us? The truck driver or the Jew. That's 355 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: the joke by itself right there. That's the joke, Gilbert 356 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: ask Kamenski. 357 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: Truck driver and a Jew walking to a bar with two. 358 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: Radio hosts, who buys lunch? You need to ask Kamenski today. 359 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: What's the answer if if you and I go to 360 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: lunch with a Jew or truck driver in which situation, 361 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: who pays what? Yes, we're awful, We're awful, but you 362 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: know what, I'm tired anyway, and. 363 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: He almost Friday, the show's almost over. We had history 364 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: class for the first three hours. So yeah, you're right, 365 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: this is like passing period right now. You just need that, 366 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: you know, five to ten minutes to just goof off. 367 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: It feels good, doesn't it sure does. It feels very 368 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: very good. 369 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: And it feels even better because we're just ragging on somebody. 370 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: We're taking out all of our frustrations in thinking that 371 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: we'd like to take out on other people. We're taking 372 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: out on a which is should be very very discouraging 373 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: for people to want to leave talkbacks. 374 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 4: Do you never know anybody wants to leave a talkbacker 375 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: on here? 376 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: Well, we had the one guy that was, you know, 377 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 3: well I touched the buttoner? 378 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: What was he saying? 379 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: Now? 380 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: What do I do? 381 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 2: Now? What I do? 382 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: Now? 383 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: What I do? 384 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: Now? 385 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: What do I do? This work? Yeah? Does this thing work? 386 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: This thing work? Of course? 387 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: You know the truck driver is probably looking down thinking 388 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 3: to himself, does this thing work? 389 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: Who was I going to do this? Who knows what was? 390 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: Oh? 391 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: I did know what I was gonna do. I'll go 392 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: ahead and start this story because this really is infuriating. 393 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: When I'm doing my Michael Brown Minutes, I'm trying to 394 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: find local stories because management wants me since I'm the 395 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: only local voice on Freedom, they want me to do local, 396 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 3: little local news promos. Sometimes sometimes I really have to 397 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: dig it's like this, because once again, if it doesn't 398 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 3: interest me, if I can't make it into something kind 399 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 3: of interesting, I just I move on. This one caught 400 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: my eye. This comes from the Denver Gazette four hundred 401 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: and eighty acre project Now, I don't know if you've 402 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: never lived on a farm or you don't know anything 403 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: about section line roads. Four hundred and eighty acres is 404 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: less than a square mile, It's less than a section. 405 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: So four hundred eighty acre project will rehabilitate school trust 406 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: land near Alamosa, sequester carbon, and increase school revenues. That 407 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: caught my attention. First paragraph, the Colorada State Land Board 408 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: approved a new partnership that aims to restore degraded range 409 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: land while opening a new revenue stream for public schools. Okay, 410 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: you're bearing the lead because you told me it was 411 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: going to sequester carbon in addition to rehabilitating some degraded 412 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 3: range land and increased revenues. You told me is going 413 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: to sequester carbon. Why is that not In the first 414 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: sentenced to Denver Gazette. Second paragraph, the board authorized a 415 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: fifteen year grassland carbon lease on four hundred eight four 416 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty acres northwest of Alamosa to a company 417 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: from Wyoming called Land and Carbon, Inc. The company does 418 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: this quote restores degraded lands with science driven, nature based 419 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: carbon solutions to capture gigatons of CO two. Now, the 420 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: gazette says, we didn't say that. They said that in 421 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: a press release from the Colorado State Land Board. Really, 422 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: I've since lost my no I do, I do have 423 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: it here. Annual US man made CO two emissions for 424 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four are estimated at four point eight billion 425 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: metric tons in just one year. Now, I'm not saying 426 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 3: there's any cause of link between those man made carbon 427 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 3: emissions and climate change. I'm just pointing out that man 428 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: made CO two emissions from at least one source that 429 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: I found online is estimated at four point eight billion 430 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: metric tons in just one year. What's this company going 431 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: to do? 432 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: Mike, love them or hate them? 433 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: Trump is a flip and stud, his stud. 434 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: Look at Israel sud He's done the impossible. SUD is 435 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Trump a stud. I wasn't sure he was clear. I 436 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: hate even know. 437 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: I hate when they leave those wishy, washy kind of talkbacks. 438 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: Come on, tell us what you really think? Can hear 439 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: what we're talking? 440 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know I am, But that's okay, son, stun 441 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: stop it. 442 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: So this side. 443 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: So, the Colorado Land Board leases four hundred and eighty 444 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: acres down somewhere around Alamosa, and they're going to sequester carbon. 445 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: Carbon is This is according to the director of the 446 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: State LAMB Bureau. A Board Carbon is a new frontier 447 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: for the Trust and this partnership ensures that our lands 448 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: are part of Colorado's climate solutions. This project will land 449 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: with Landing Carbon is part of our effort to diversify 450 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: revenue streams for schools while improving the health of our 451 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: natural and working lands. Now you dig through the story. 452 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: The ground rent for the project is a dollar fifteen 453 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: acre increases three percent a year. They get ten percent 454 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: of gross revenue from the voluntary carbon credit sales. Now, 455 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: I told you before the break that the annual US 456 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 3: man made carbon emissions for just the United States. 457 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how they calculate that was how they calculated. 458 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: Is estimated at four point eight billion metric tons. The 459 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: Land Board is all excited because the company will use 460 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: receding soil amendments and water management to rebuild native grasslands 461 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: and capture and estimated X number of metric tons of 462 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: carbon dioxide in the first fifteen years. Now we do 463 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: four point eight billion metric tons in just one year. 464 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: So fourteen point eight where's my little calculator? Fourteen point 465 00:29:53,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: eight times fifteen equals two hundred t d two billion 466 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 3: tons over a fifteen year period. This company, on that 467 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: four hundred and eighty acres of land is going to 468 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: capture an estimated, not for certain, but an estimated ten 469 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: thousand tons, ten thousand tons. Yep, the climate has been 470 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: solved in Alamosa, Colorado. Out of two hundred and twenty 471 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: two billion metric tons over a fifteen year period, they're 472 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: going to capture ten thousand tons. 473 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: You do the math.