1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet on Lance McAllister, My first 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: guest is beginning his thirty fourth season as part of 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: the Reds broadcast team. Radio and television analyst for Reds 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Baseball thirty four years. Always a treat to talk Reds 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Baseball with Chris Welsh. How are you now? 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Lance yourself? 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I am well and I don't want to bury the lead. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: I want to get straight to the most important thing. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Can you confirm that you fired a hole in one 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: at the Wigwam in Arizona earlier this month? 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Confirmed? Yes, I actually had two witnesses, so it wasn't 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: be out playing by myself sometimes. Yeah, that was number 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: four for me. And wow, it's always fun. It never 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: gets old. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: How about that congratulations? 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: That is? 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: That is very cool? You were You were the subject 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: to Dave Laurla Fangrats turned to you for his Sunday 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Notes this week and ask you about Matt McClain. What 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: do you make a McClain's spring and how important is 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: he to this Reds twenty twenty sixth season. 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: You know, actually David didn't ask me about Matt McClain. 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: He asked me which guy in the Reds batting order 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: is probably the most important player. And that's why I 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: picked Matt McClain, not only because he had a big spring, 26 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: but because there have been expectations from that he'd ever 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: since he was drafted number one by the Red several 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: years ago, and then he hurt his arm and he 29 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: missed the twenty four season. He came back last year, 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: didn't play that great, and then he turned it on 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: the spring, and I think we're finally beginning to see 32 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: what happens after the year. You're healthy, you feel a 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: little bit better, you get your confidence back, you take 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: your instruction from your hitting coach a little bit more 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: to heart, and I think that's all playing well for him. 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: He's made some adjustments at the plate physically, but I 37 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: think the confidence factor is the biggest thing of all. 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: And I really believe that McLain could have a monster year. 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Chris, do you have any level of concern in the 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: spring performance of Andrew Abbott? 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Not? Really? Be honest, I've seen so many times in 42 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: spring training which has no indication at all how you're 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: going to do. Now. As long as Andrew is healthy, 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be fine. He's a bulldog. 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: He's a guy that reminds me a lot of the 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: way Tom Browning went about it, which you watch him 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: warm up and you're not that impressed, but you said, 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see him bow down the 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: other team, you know, for five or six innings, and 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: it makes it look easy. Abbott is a guy that's 51 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: going to figure out how to get it done. And 52 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: I think that you really evaluate him less through all 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: of his individual pitches. You know, his velocity and his 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: spin ray and the curvature and all that stuff. It 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that much to me. It's how he feels 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: on the mound and whether he can do the things 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: that he wants to do. And I think it'd be healthy. 58 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: He's going to be just fine. I know a lot 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: of people are really worrying about that, but I'm not 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: one of them right now. 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: I was struck by a conversation you had with Tommy 62 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: during a broadcast during the spring about how pitch is 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: thrown an Innings thrown in the spring are different than 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: throwing major league gettings, and I wonder it seems, because 65 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: of injuries that they're putting a lot on the shoulders 66 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: right from jump on Chase Burn's red Ladder and Brandon Williamson. 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little concerning to me, to be honest 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: with you, because, you know, let's just take the example 69 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: of Matt McClain. He missed an entire season in twenty 70 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: twenty four, he came back in twenty twenty five. The 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: expectations by a lot of people around the ball club 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: where the oh, he's going to pick up right where 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: he was when his rookie year. You know you did 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: so well. Well, it's not that easy, especially when it 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: comes to pitching, because now you're going to ask them 76 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: guys to fill in the gap that they're just not 77 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: used to doing. Their body's not ready for it, their 78 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: head isn't ready for it, and I think it's going 79 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: to be very tough to do. This is the one 80 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: biggest thing I think facing every team, not only the Reds, 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: but every team out there. As you see fewer and 82 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: fewer pitchers going deep in the games and then going 83 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: deep into the season, a major league team has to 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: somehow cover around fourteen hundred to fifteen hundred innings per season. 85 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: And if you've got guys that used to throw two 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: hundred innings years ago and now they're only throwing one 87 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty innings. Now, how do you fill the gap? 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: And now you have injured players that are coming back 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: they're healthy this year, yes, but really, what can you 90 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: expect that of Burns? What can you expect that of Williamson, 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: Aggie Are I mean, any of these guys coming up? 92 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: How many innings can you actually expect out of them 93 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: so that you can satisfactorily fill that gap with good pitching? 94 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: And I think that's every general manager's nightmare. And I 95 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: think it is probably keeping Nick crawl away at night too. 96 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Chris, did you ever deal with blisters during your career? 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: I think every pitcher is double blisters, But I never 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: had recurring blisters. So sometimes, you know, you get a 99 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: baseball on a certain nye, you grip it especially hard, 100 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: and you end up with a blister of some kind. 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: But you know, Nicklodolo has a blister on his index finger, 102 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: which is very unusual for pitchers. Most of the time, 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: when you get a blister as a pitcher, it's on 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: your middle finger and right on the pad where you 105 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: kind of that's the last finger to really be on 106 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: the base fall. But there's a pitch that Lodolo throws 107 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: where I think it's a slider that comes off that 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: index finger is in a funny way, and he tends 109 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: to irritated. And I have not been around pitchers that 110 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: have done that very often. I've always wondered, you know, 111 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: since it's his third year doing this, he's missed two weeks. 112 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Last year, he missed two and half weeks. I think 113 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: the year before, you know, while I spend the winter 114 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 2: figuring out a different way to fill that bitch, because 115 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: you know, his his magic on the mound is not 116 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: due to how the ball comes out of his fingertips. 117 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: It's his size, it's his presence, it's his stride towards home, 118 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: played his armslot all those things together, and I think 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: that he could have figured out a way to get 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: around that so that you don't have a worry about 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: the the you know, the index finger and the blister. 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: So I'm a little surprised that's still going to be 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: bothering him. Hopefully, as in the past, you get it 124 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: taken care of and it doesn't get to you there 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. 126 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Cristito's kicked around the idea of having sal Stuart now 127 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: bat fourth after Ellie and in front of au Hideoswarez 128 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: as you saw sal last year, you saw him in 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: the spring. What are what are your impressions? What excites 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you about someone who I hear a lot of people 131 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: say maybe a young hitter, but he doesn't perform like 132 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: a young hit. Performs more and carries himself more like 133 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: a veteran. 134 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: He's the best young hitter I've seen the Reds uniform 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: in a long time. I mean a long time. And 136 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: it goes to show you too, that Tito has been around. 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he's seen a lot of players, and he's 138 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: thinking about moving him up in the order, in the 139 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: number four spot. Here's a kid that's what twenty two, 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: twenty three years old, So I think that's really a 141 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: feather and the cat for Stewart, He's not intimidated at 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: the play. He's got great stage presence. You watch Stewart, 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: you know, play the game. I mean he's always talking 144 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: to somebody. He'll go down, get to the first base, He'll 145 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: talk to the first base coach, talk to first base 146 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: umpire Terry. Frank Crona told him, he's just how many 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: years you've been in the league. You know everybody in 148 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: the league already because that's what it seems like. It 149 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: just goes to show you, though, how comfortable he is. 150 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: That's one of the big obstacles young players have to 151 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: get past, is you know, feeling like they belong here. Well, 152 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Stuart feels like he belongs here. There's no question about it. 153 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: I think it's you know, some people call it cockiness, 154 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: others call it confidence. But I think it's a good 155 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: spot for him, and he's dangerous. And because you have 156 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Stuart and now you have any heros Warez, and you've 157 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: got a new year now for Ellie da la Cruz 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: who popped on twenty two or twenty three last year 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: when he was injured. I think this is a deeper 160 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: lineup than they've had in a long time, and it's 161 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 2: got more thumb. 162 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I was like, as we close, talking about a passion 163 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: of yours, and that's the Baseball Rules Academy, Baseball Rules 164 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Academy dot Com, I believe, tell everybody about it. 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Well, next couple of days look on Twitter, because I'm 166 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: going to come out with a three part series on 167 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: at least two part series on the ads and all 168 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: the little intricacies of the ADS and the effects that's 169 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: going to have on Major League Baseball that people haven't 170 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: thought of so far. That's going to be out there. 171 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: It's going gangbusters. I'm getting several thousand people a day 172 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: on the site. It's more rather than it's a website 173 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: about the rules. I think I've developed more of a 174 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: learning platform on how to learn the rules of baseball, 175 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: and kind of a fun way. So I'm working at it. 176 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: It's a passion of mine. Thanks for asking me, and 177 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: we keep plugging away and having some fun. 178 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I got about a 179 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: minute and you sparked another question. I forgot. What are 180 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: your impressions of the ABS going through the spring with 181 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: it and how it may impact the game. 182 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: I think it's going to you know, they say it's 183 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: going to add about a minute to the game. Okay, 184 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: So I think that it's what fans wanted. As soon 185 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: as we saw that strike zone box up on the 186 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: screen every pitch, starting about what six or seven years ago, 187 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: I knew that this was coming because there's no way 188 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: that you're going to fill a pitch. It's being evaluated 189 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: now by umpires, it's being evaluated by people at home 190 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: watching it on the screen. So you have to give 191 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: players a chance to have a correct call made and 192 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: in a very important time part of the game. And 193 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what the ABS challenge does. It's not perfect. 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: You can't believe everything that it says that it's more 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: accurate than anything else. But really the bottom line for me, Lance, 196 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: is that it shows me the Major league umpires are 197 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: pretty dog one, good at what they do, very well. 198 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Said he is Chris Welsh. He's on x at Think 199 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Pitch for more Man. This is always a treat. It 200 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: is great here in your voice and hope to see 201 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: you on Thursday. 202 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Do you better believe it? Lance, Good luck to you 203 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: and go red. 204 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Chris. There you go, Chris Welsh, the crafty left 205 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: hander checking you in. Let's get a check on news 206 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: around the corner. The former Bearcat Leonard Stokes talks Jared Calhoun. 207 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: It's Arnel Carrier Sports Talk, presented by Kelsey Chevalet seven 208 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: hundred WLW