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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WR Now the WR Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Here's Larry Minty, Good Morning. Coming up this week on

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning. Amazing employment numbers out this week with one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand jobs created in January. All the

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Speaker 2: economic numbers are great, So why do people think it's

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Speaker 2: a bad economy? We'll ask White House Deputy Press Secretary

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Speaker 2: Cush de Si. Does the election of socialist Annelilia Mahea

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Speaker 2: in the North Jersey special election Democratic primary show a

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Speaker 2: growing trend. We'll talk with political analyst JC Polonko about it.

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Speaker 2: There is a major Epstein scandal in Great Britain that

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Speaker 2: is much bigger than the scandal in the United States.

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Speaker 2: British correspondent Guy Davies explains, And how did the FBI

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Speaker 2: finally get the doorbell video in the Nancy Guthrie abduction case.

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Speaker 2: Rich DeMuro from rich On Tech has the answer. But

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Speaker 2: let's start with White House Deputy Press Secretary pushed aside.

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Speaker 2: The US economy is booming. New numbers out on jobs now,

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Speaker 2: the predictions were for fifty sixty thousand. It was much

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Speaker 2: bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: There were a lot of Wall Street analysts who were

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Speaker 3: predicting that a reduction of the labor force was going

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Speaker 3: to make a bad number. And in fact, CNBC had

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Speaker 3: a headline saying that the job's number is going to

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Speaker 3: be zero. Bloomberg had a headline saying, the job's number

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Speaker 3: is going to be zero. At private sector jobs, which

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Speaker 3: is our main focus right now, because we've been reducing

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Speaker 3: government government employment, they went up one hundred and seventy thousand.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely blew out any expectation whatsoever. So it's really a

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Speaker 3: remarkable strong number.

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Speaker 2: It's been a common story, hasn't it been blowing out expectations.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the expectations were too low in the first place.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the low expectations were politically motivated. It must get

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Speaker 2: frustrating for the White House. And with that, let's bring

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Speaker 2: in Cush to sigh, White House Deputy Press Secretary, to

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Speaker 2: talk about these new numbers. Kush, the White House must

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Speaker 2: be extremely happy at these numbers.

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Speaker 4: Thanks having me on, And of course we're very happy.

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Speaker 4: We continue to see America's economic resurgence center President Trump

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Speaker 4: come true. And look, you talked about the experts. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: the experts haven't proven wrong again and again for the

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Speaker 4: past year. We were supposed to have a record high inflation.

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Speaker 4: We were supposed to have economic catastrophe and mass unemployment,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen the exact opposite transpire over the past year.

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Speaker 4: So it's just a continuing story of President Trump is

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Speaker 4: right about everything and the experts were just wrong about everything.

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Speaker 2: What is the frustration at the White House with this?

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Speaker 2: Because that has an effect. Everybody's saying that things are

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Speaker 2: going to be bad has an effect. I know the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are going to do that, but these are experts

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Speaker 2: that do this. These are media members that are talking

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Speaker 2: about how bad things are going to be, and it

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Speaker 2: shows in the poll numbers. For some reason, people are

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Speaker 2: They don't claim they're feeling this. I think they've been

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Speaker 2: told not to feel it. And in the poll numbers

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Speaker 2: they say the economy is bad. When the economy is booming,

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Speaker 2: How are you dealing with that?

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Speaker 4: Look, it's frustrating, but it just it's it's a reminder

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Speaker 4: for us to keep working hard. I mean, look, yesterday's

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Speaker 4: job report was fantastic, but nothing's ever good enough for

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Speaker 4: the president. The president wants even more robust job gains,

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Speaker 4: job gains, even more robust real wage gains, even more

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Speaker 4: robust economic growth, and so more folks that continue to

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Speaker 4: deliver for the American people. And I think, just like

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Speaker 4: now Trussing, the mainstream media is at an all time

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Speaker 4: low because they keep they keep pushing this Trump ter

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Speaker 4: Raine syndrome affected narrative against the president. I think we're

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Speaker 4: gonna start seeing the experts lose you Americans to lose

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Speaker 4: confidence in them as well.

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Speaker 2: I've heard the Trump administration officials talk several times about

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Speaker 2: the GDP growth. It's been amazing so far, but they're

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Speaker 2: saying that in the in the second quarter, third quarter,

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Speaker 2: seven percent. Are are they still talking about those type

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Look, we just saw this. In the third quarter

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five, GDP growth was supposed to be

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Speaker 4: smash all expectations. We continue to implement an economic agenda

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Speaker 4: that we know works, that work during President Trump's first term.

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Speaker 4: So we're very confident about the future of this country,

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Speaker 4: and we continue to work every day to make that

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Speaker 2: One of the things that the Democrats have tried, and

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Speaker 2: it started here, I believe with zorimm Donni is the

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Speaker 2: affordability crisis. You know, look at things are much more

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Speaker 2: expensive than they used to be. The inflation rate under

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has been fairly low. I mean it's been

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Speaker 2: the twos, which is what you want with your inflation rate.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden had accumulative inflation rate of twenty one point

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Speaker 2: five percent. It just seems so disingenuous to blame high

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Speaker 2: went up under the previous president. Uh, how do you

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Speaker 2: deal with that? How do you deal with that perception?

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Speaker 4: Look, the thing is that we're folks dot continue to

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Speaker 4: deliver how we can to deliver relief for the American people.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned there on Mamdani in New York. And the

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Speaker 4: thing is is that so much of blue state woes

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Speaker 4: Democrat politicians and their mediocre policies. I don't have to

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Speaker 4: tell you about how gas prices in California, for instance,

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Speaker 4: they're so much higher than the national average because they're

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Speaker 4: just not embracing the common sense energy policies that this

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Speaker 4: president is championing. So we're going to continue focusing on

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Speaker 4: delivering healthcare affordability with Trump Barros, dot gov and these

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Speaker 4: most favored nation drug pricing deals. We're going to continue

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Speaker 4: pushing housing affordability, to continue getting mortgage rates lower. So

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Speaker 4: we're going to keep doing our part, and we hope

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Speaker 4: that Democrats will start doing their jobs and running their

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Speaker 2: Is there a lot of talk at the White House

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Speaker 2: these days about the midterms? And if so, is Donald Trump?

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Speaker 2: I know he's already been out there a couple of

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Look, I think the President is most of his

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Speaker 4: the first place. And so I think we're going to

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Speaker 4: continue seeing the President cutting out the fake news middleman

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Speaker 4: of the mainstream media and taking his message directly to

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Speaker 4: the people and telling them how he has been delivering

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Speaker 4: on all of his promises to secure the border, to

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Speaker 4: cool inflation, and to deliver real affordability.

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Speaker 2: Now, when Pam Bondi appears before a congressional hearing, does

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Speaker 4: Look, we're obviously always supporting our cabinet folks when they're

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Speaker 4: But a lot of us are just focused on continuing

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Speaker 4: to deliver. And I think that's especially on the economic front.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're less focused on the headlines and more

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Speaker 4: focused on continuing to do the work that delivers will

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Speaker 2: Come on, coach, that was so entertaining yesterday. There had

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Speaker 2: the Democrats during that hearing.

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Speaker 4: We were definitely sharing a few clubs. We were taking

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Speaker 4: break from real work out.

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Speaker 2: Well, coush, she was an honor to have you here today,

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Speaker 2: kush Desi, White House Deputy Press Secretary. Hope to talk

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Speaker 2: to you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks from you.

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Speaker 2: A major Epstein scandal that affects both the royal family

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Speaker 2: and the Prime Minister. ABC correspondent Guy Davies has the story.

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Speaker 1: Here's Larry Minty with more of the wr Saturday Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: If you think that the Epstein files have caused a ruckus,

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Speaker 2: that caused concern, have caused news stories in this story,

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Speaker 2: you ain't seen nothing yet. If you go across the

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Speaker 2: there are calls even for the Prime Minister to reside

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Speaker 2: to explain all of this. Let's check in with Guy Davies,

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Speaker 2: ABC News correspondent in London. In London, Guy tell us

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Speaker 2: what's going on there? What it sounds like. The whole

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Speaker 5: It's been an extraordinary couple of weeks. The Royal family

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Speaker 5: and the Prime Minister in the cross has under considerable

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Speaker 5: amount of criticism and scrutiny. They're talking about this being

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Speaker 5: the biggest crisis for the Royal family since nineteen thirty six,

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Speaker 5: since the application crisis. I mean, that's how deeply this runs.

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Speaker 5: And with Andrew, we've always known about him, Prince that

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Speaker 5: With that, we've always known about his associations with Epstein

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Speaker 5: that have been questions about whether he has been forthcoming

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Speaker 5: there seems to be evidence there's a new woman who's

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Speaker 5: That's been one of the lawyers in the US has

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Speaker 5: made that allegation. And secondly, when Andrew was a trade envoy,

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Speaker 5: The police are now looking into it. They're talking to

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Speaker 5: their US counterparts, and similarly, Peter Mandleson. It might not

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Speaker 5: key appointment. Well, his associations with Epscene were also known,

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Speaker 5: but not to this extent. He's also accused of potentially

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Speaker 5: handing over key government information. This relates to the two

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Speaker 5: there also appears to be to transfer some seventy five

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Speaker 5: to Mandelson. So he's under and now facing a full

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Speaker 5: on police investigation. And in terms of how far this

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Speaker 5: scandal is reaching, this isn't just two individuals. Everyone is

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Speaker 5: asking who knew what and when. That includes the Prime

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Speaker 2: So there's going to be an investigation, I would take it.

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Speaker 2: There would also be some in parliament. Is there going

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Guy, Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Nancy Guthrie abduction case dragged on for days

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Rach. So how were they able to

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Amazon same day pharmacy. I'm really looking

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Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, Amazon has really been trying to get people

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Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, headphones are really popular here

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Speaker 6: Now, you guys probably used like I do, wired headphones

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Speaker 6: And over the ear headphones, the Soundcore Space one is

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Speaker 2: That's great information. And you have this up online.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all on the website. Rich on Tech dot tv.

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Speaker 2: Rich DeMuro, rich on Tech has heard Sunday nights from

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Speaker 2: at rich on Tech on Instagram. Just ahead on Saturday morning,

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Speaker 2: University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant professor and attorney. Jac

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Speaker 2: I was looking forward to this. I got so much

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about. Let's good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with what happened in New Jersey with that

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Speaker 2: special election. Analia and Alilia Mahea is now the Democratic

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Speaker 2: nominee to run in the eleventh district for Congress. She

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Speaker 2: is another Democratic Socialist, and this is something that's spreading

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Speaker 2: across the country. I don't I don't think it started

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Speaker 2: with zorinmm donnie, but he certainly got the most attention.

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Speaker 2: Does she have a chance in this I mean she

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Speaker 2: only got twenty eight percent of the vote. I know

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Speaker 2: it's a democratic district, but it's also a moderate district.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this race?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, you know it's not surprising. The decisions by

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Speaker 7: the political strategists in that district is one that's going

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Speaker 7: to be studied forever. You know, you had someone that

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Speaker 7: was a moderate, yet about two centrists or moderates in

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Speaker 7: that race, and you know, the special interests decided that

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Speaker 7: they were going to go split their support and that

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Speaker 7: really was a problem because then it allowed for the

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Speaker 7: two centrists to fight each other to the deak, allowing

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Speaker 7: for the most progressive liberal socialists to be able to win.

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Speaker 7: So that's actually what happened in that district. So it's

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Speaker 7: not a bell weather. But what I want to make

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Speaker 7: sure is that your listeners understand that the Democratic Socialists

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Speaker 7: of America are very very powerful. These are people that

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Speaker 7: understand the landscape. A lot of these primaries are very

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Speaker 7: low turnout districts, and these special elections as well are

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Speaker 7: very low turnout district and you have people that understand

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Speaker 7: the districts, that understand marketing, that know about get out

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Speaker 7: the vote efforts, and they're loud, they're vocal, they know

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Speaker 7: how to organize, and they're winning seats across the country

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Speaker 7: by people falling asleep at the wheel and not participating

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Speaker 7: in these non general election events and they're bringing out

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Speaker 7: their votes and they're loud on social media. They can

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Speaker 7: raise a lot of money. Many of them are transplants,

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Speaker 7: many of them are new A lot of the money

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Speaker 7: is coming outside of the district, and that's happening around

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Speaker 7: the country. It's happening in New York City, and it's

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Speaker 7: happening in congressional districts like the ones you're referring to.

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Speaker 7: And quite frankly, I could see a situation where she wins.

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Speaker 7: She wins in November because people are falling asleep at

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Speaker 7: the wheel. And as they're winning these smaller elections, they're

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Speaker 7: becoming more popular. They're becoming moderates when it comes to

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Speaker 7: general elections, they're becoming likable. The press likes them, and

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Speaker 7: before you know they're winning elections in November. So that's

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Speaker 7: what we're seeing across the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just frightened me about New Jersey eleven because

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. You know, in a midterm election,

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Speaker 2: especially in a special election, it's who can motivate their

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Speaker 2: voters to get out and they're motivated. You know, Harry

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Speaker 2: Enton did a show to poll just last night where

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Speaker 2: he showed that thirty three percent of Democratic voters under

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Speaker 2: the age of thirty five across the country consider themselves

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Speaker 2: Democratic socialists. This is growing, Oh, it's growing.

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Speaker 7: Look, let me tell you something. The star behind this.

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Speaker 7: You know, the first person that really got everything going

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Speaker 7: was AOC. But the superstar of the moment is Mayor Mom.

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Speaker 5: Donnie.

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Speaker 7: Mayor Mum Donnie walks into a concert and the whole

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Speaker 7: place loses their mind.

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Speaker 5: He's a rock star.

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Speaker 7: So he's a young man who is liked by a

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Speaker 7: lot of young people and they see him as cool

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Speaker 7: and energetic and they want to be like him. And

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Speaker 7: a lot of them here democratic socialists. They don't have

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Speaker 7: the connection that you and I and a lot of

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Speaker 7: your listeners have to socialism. What does it really mean?

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Speaker 4: How?

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Speaker 7: You know, we think of Cuba. We think of what's

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Speaker 7: happened throughout civilizations when socialism takes over. They're thinking socialism, cool, socialism, Donnie, socialism, AOC,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of them are subscribing to a lot

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Speaker 7: of these things, especially when they make a connection somehow

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Speaker 7: that being socialist means being virtuous. So it's very complicated,

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Speaker 7: but they're they're winning seats, and they're going to become

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Speaker 7: even more popular unless unless centrists and moderates become attractive

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Speaker 7: again to voters, and unless voters take these elections seriously

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Speaker 7: and come out and support the moderates and centrists, or

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Speaker 7: if not, it's over. Remember that what sells in Washington

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Speaker 7: right now is how extreme can you get? What is

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Speaker 7: the most extreme thing you can say on Twitter and

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Speaker 7: on your on your emails and newsletters so that you

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Speaker 7: can get fundraising numbers up. And that's really what's winning

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Speaker 7: the day. It's not sexy to be a centrist or

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Speaker 7: a moderate these days, but if you're a loud mouse

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Speaker 7: on both sides of the aisle, you're going to raise

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Speaker 7: a lot of money. And what we're seeing with socialist

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Speaker 7: is the more you beat up on wealthy people without

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Speaker 7: explaining how they provide most of the money in that

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Speaker 7: we collect here in New York City. If you beat

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Speaker 7: up on capitalism like you're doing, and you say loud enough,

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Speaker 7: you know you're going to raise the most money. And

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Speaker 7: that's what we're seeing with the socialists across the city.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're exactly right, And it really concerns me JC

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Speaker 2: that it's becoming more of a religion than a political

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Speaker 2: movement that no matter what they do or what they

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Speaker 2: fail at, like Zorin Mamdani, they still have this support

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Speaker 2: because they like him and they like the idea of

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Speaker 2: democratic socialism. For instance, nineteen people died during a snowstorm,

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Speaker 2: his support still strong. He goes to Albany and we

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Speaker 2: all knew he was going to fail in getting the money.

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Speaker 2: They basically called him a liar and said you're not

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Speaker 2: going to get the money, and yet he still seems

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Speaker 2: to have support. Meaning it's the movement that's important, not

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Speaker 2: the success rate.

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Speaker 7: And that's what we talked about Larry last year Unite.

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Speaker 7: It's what people want to see that he tried so

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Speaker 7: that he'd come back and say, well they stop me right,

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Speaker 7: So now he still looks like a superstar with his people.

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Speaker 7: But keep your eye on the press. I have a

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Speaker 7: lot of friends in the press, but keep your eyes

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Speaker 7: on the press.

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Speaker 4: If this were any other mayor and.

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Speaker 7: We had people die in the streets because he refused

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Speaker 7: to force them to come inside, it would be hell

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Speaker 7: earth here in New York City. But it's not because

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Speaker 7: a lot of folks, not all, but a lot of

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Speaker 7: folks in the press have become fans and they're not

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Speaker 7: being objective. They're not reporting the news as they should.

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Speaker 7: And I think things would be a little different if

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Speaker 7: the press started being more referees and umpires as opposed

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Speaker 7: to fans. We would be able to read objective stories

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Speaker 7: about how he's failed with funding, how he lied about

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Speaker 7: us being twelve billion dollars in the whole, how he

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Speaker 7: said that we never knew that we were going to

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Speaker 7: be twelve billion dollars or the whole. And Mayor Adams

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Speaker 7: made it very clear that the migrant crisis was going

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Speaker 7: to be a twelve billion dollar hole in the budget

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Speaker 7: many times over. I mean, these are things that no

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Speaker 7: other mayor would benefit from, and it would be hell

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Speaker 7: on Earth here. It would be coursed Earth if another

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Speaker 7: mayor pulled some of these things and then you know,

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Speaker 7: when you take a look at some of the kiosks

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Speaker 7: in New York City, we have a link system where

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Speaker 7: they had an agreement with New York City and that's

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Speaker 7: why we see these Wi Fi bill boards throughout the city.

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Speaker 7: You have the mayor in campaign ads in these same kiosks.

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Speaker 7: If this were Mayor Adams, or imagine a Republican mayor

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Speaker 7: or Mayor Bloomberg, it'll be hell on earth. But he

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Speaker 7: gets away with it. And a lot of it has

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Speaker 7: to do with the press. So I want to see

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Speaker 7: what happens with the press. Are they going to become objective?

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Speaker 7: Are they going to become reps umpires keep him honest?

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Speaker 7: Or are they gonna still wear that you know, there's

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Speaker 7: zoron hats and become fans.

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Speaker 2: I bless the press every day because I remember when

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Speaker 2: the New York media was all over politicians, and you're right,

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Speaker 2: it's completely different. He gave gobblygup to an answer yesterday

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Speaker 2: and nobody asked to follow up when they said, did

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Speaker 2: you over promise? So jac let's talk about this more.

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Speaker 5: J C.

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Speaker 2: Polanco, political analysts and University of Mount Saint Vincent assistant

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Speaker 2: professor attorney. Thanks a lot, jac have a great weekend,

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Speaker 2: you too, my friend.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: That wraps up Saturday Morning for this week. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 2: and thanks to Natalie Vodka, Bruce Clayton, and Scott Lakefield

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Speaker 2: for putting the show together this week. Have a great

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Speaker 2: rest of your weekend.

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