WEBVTT - 10-8-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:06.000 American Scott Phone back on seven hundred WLW. With all 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.440 the news and big news we've had in headlines recently, 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.880 there's other things that are kind of important. One of 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:13.240 those is I don't know if you saw this, but 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.680 the auditor of state State of Ohio reported at least 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.400 twenty three cyber attacks against government offices in the past 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.320 twelve months. It's here in Ohio, including seven hundred thousand 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.640 dollars in theft in Licking County. We've seen this in 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.000 Dayton and in Cincinnati and across the area. And as 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.040 a result, lawmakers are working on cybersecurity legislations coming together 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.040 that would acquire municipalities to develop their own policies in 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.159 response to those cyber attacks and local governments. Chris Nihis 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.400 is here. He's the CEO of Cincinnati based Vigilant cyber 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.519 Security and Joints to show to discuss Chris. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.040 Welcome, Thanks Scott, Thanks for having me on. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.559 Yes, sir, Before we get to that where we this 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.879 relatively new news here of this supply chain breach, and 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:57.120 that's frightening because when it comes to user participation in 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.400 the supply chain, and that is ordering stuff on Amazon 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.520 or anywhere else, we have a compromise at that level. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:03.720 What's going on? What do we need to know? 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:05.000 Right? 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:10.880 So what's crazy about this? So MPMs are packets of 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:15.319 data it's or it's it's software, and what developers will 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.920 do is they'll go out and get the software kind 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.440 of a marketplace and. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:19.920 They'll pull it put it into. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.800 Their software that they write so that they don't have 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.800 to write those modules again. So what basically happened here 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:31.440 is UH is an individual that manages these in some 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:37.000 of these MPMs, they were fished and basically gave up 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:43.319 access to these modules. Attack went in modified them to 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.160 when they were updated, like when people update their software, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.280 and these are definitely the cyber attack went into all 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.400 of these different pieces of software out there. So the 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.360 problem with this is is that developers don't always necessarily 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.840 know what packages they put into these applications. Companies don't. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:01.960 They don't know if they take a piece of software 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.960 and they put it into their websites or whatever. In 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.480 this case, it's affecting a lot of crypto wallets that 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.720 are out there, and so it's a massive problem because 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.880 this supply chain attack of basically a supply chain of 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:19.040 a piece of software that gets tos tribute all kinds 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.200 of places with maybe no record that's even there is 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.919 it can affect the applications you use every day. And 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.919 in a lot of case, what they're seeing where a 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.400 lot of these applications were affected. We're crypto wallets, So 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.840 if you're transferring crypto, one of the things that's happening 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.320 is malicious attacker. So it's where if you go to 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:42.520 transfer crypto, the software actually swaps out the setting address 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:47.760 that you're sending to with their address, So they're accumulating 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.920 crypto from people trying to make legitimate transactions by just 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:52.680 changing that out. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:56.799 Wow, got it. So now every time you click buy 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.000 or you add a card right now, now you've got 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.000 to think about that, right. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:01.880 No, it's crazy. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.720 As we talk with HB ninety six, it's even these 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.560 things can be related, right because you know, when when 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.839 it's software, it's embedded in software you use, you don't 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.919 necessarily know those things are happening. So like within PM, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.400 it's invisible to everybody out there, you know, but it's everywhere, right, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.720 it's the software library system that developers use to build 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.000 these apps and websites, and so you know, I think 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.959 It's like the plumbing behind all of your favorite apps, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:27.359 you know. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.880 Right right right, We don't think about it until now 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.560 we can breach that as well. And this gets back 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.680 to the discussion about HB ninety six. Here cybersecurity legislature 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.080 across the state. The state says, well, if you're in 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.320 a municipality, you have to come up with a plan 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.280 to deal with cyber attacks on local love. We've got 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.840 to review your do a systems review, identify risks and 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.000 mitigation and stuff like that. But I mean that'd be 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.760 okay for Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland. Maybe if you're a Toledo 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.840 or a Dayton or a city like Youngstown for example. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.480 But you know, we have a lot, a lot of 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.720 small communities just here in the lit Sting area right 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.680 here in Cincinnati as well. How good are these municipalities 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.240 going to be where maybe I don't know a couple 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:11.320 dozen or ten people who administrate that municipality. Should we 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.360 really be put in in their hands because I don't 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.960 don't they have the resources? 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.400 Well, see, here's the thing about it is, and you 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.040 know you and I've talked about cyber for a while. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.200 Here is that the commodity technology that's out there in 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.479 the market just it just doesn't work. And and that's 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.200 that's something that people don't like me to say, especially 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.920 in this industry, but it's the truth of it. And 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:32.799 you know, if you look at all of the reports 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.760 year after year, the time it takes to detect a 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.279 threat right now is seven years. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:44.160 I mean that seven years starts seven months. That's grown years. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.120 Well sometimes you know, with with the attack against Dropbox, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.760 it was four years, right so so, but average right 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.440 now with seven months and and and that's where you know, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.359 the part of the issue is the cyber industry just 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.880 doesn't have a significant amount of. 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.159 Time you have pivot that really is effective. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.479 And when it is effective tech it does take teams 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.240 that have high skill sets in and have a lot 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.880 of time to focus on that. And unfortunately in our 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.800 school districts and local governments, you know, they don't have 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.279 the funding. You know, they're they're they're not giving the 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:18.600 funding to do it. And you know, if you watch 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.039 some of these uh, you know, council meetings, you'll find 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.880 where is you know, someone bring up a purchase for 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.040 cybersecurity and it gets trumps because of sidewalks fixes, right, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.200 and which are both important, but but they just don't 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.120 get the funding and they don't have the resources. So 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.760 to your point, yes, it's going to be a problem. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:36.000 Now. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.960 You know what happens though in these organizations is they 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.640 buy commodity software that is more automatic, and that's that's 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.600 part of the issue, is that the automatic approach to 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.080 cyberturity doesn't work, and so these school districts are going 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.320 to have to spend a lot more money. Local governments 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.040 are gonna have to do the same. They're going to 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.720 have to bolster their teams up, uh, and they're going 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.680 to have to really be wise about the tech that 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.320 they i inside the environments, you know that they that 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:03.880 they use. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.520 Right right, Well, that's the thing is finding the proper vendor. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.480 But it's up to the municipality though to figure out, 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.440 you know, what the detection is there too. So the 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.880 onus is on them is in this in this bill, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:16.719 Can I just go, wait a minute, I've got a 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.760 bad vendor or I hired someone doesn't know what the 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.520 hell they're doing. Does that cover them legally from the 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.760 state perspective? What about that? Because I don't know what 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.520 I don't know, you. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.839 Know, yeah, it doesn't And That's really the thing with 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.120 all of this is that you know, companies have to 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.280 be extremely careful about the tech they buy. They can't 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.880 just buy a brand name. And in fact, if you 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.920 look at that seven months of time, that's driven by 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.479 the you know, the organizations that have quoe unquote more 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.680 market share. So you have to be really careful about 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.240 the organizations you buy because at the end of the day, 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.480 you are legally responsible because you chose where to put 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.320 the data. And in this case, you know there there's 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.640 you know, the responsibility to report. I mean, you have 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.920 to report an incident within seven days, you know, from 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.800 when it happened. I mean right now, it's seven months 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.880 to even detect it. You have to you know, you 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.240 can't ransomware, which I think is a good thing in 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.280 most cases because it will it will slow down the 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.440 process for these attackers. I think it'll make school districts 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.280 a lot less of a target in some ways because 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.000 they'll be harder to get them. But they have to 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.760 get either bord approval or they have to get council 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.000 approval to pay ransomware now, which is really good. But 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.200 the other thing that I I'll say, I do really 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.800 love about this bill, and it's something that I think 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.640 Ohio did really really well and the states like California 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.720 did really really poorly. And basically in this bill, it 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:51.080 makes all cybersecurity records and purchases confidential, and in like California, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.920 they have to report everything they do literally public record. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.040 And so why that's important is when you're when you're 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.960 fighting against cyber attacks that know what they're doing. And 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:05.160 if you have a document that you literally just put 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.320 out there right and you tell everybody all the technology 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.600 you use and all the purchase you use and all 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.160 your records, then they know exactly how to attack you. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.280 So I think Ohio did a really good thing. You 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.600 don't normally see that from lawmakers a lot because they're 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.040 not really technologically advanced when they write these laws. Ohio 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:22.840 did an awesome job. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.880 That's incredible. Here's California, Silicon Valley, Apple, all these big 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.560 and they screw it up. Here's Ohio. We get it right. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.000 Good for right, we get it right. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.120 The reason I live at Ohio now California. Chris and I. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.079 Heis CEO of vigil and Cybersecurity in Cincinnati, Ohio, and 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.199 the State Aunor's office and now legislation proposed coming together 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:45.280 to require musavels to developed cybersecurity policies, which is important. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.199 Sounds boring, but important, but I mean just think about it. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.640 Just to what this month we had the City of Middletown, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.560 for example, right there, they had an attack disrupted city services, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.040 in person operations, online functions. They're trying to resolve the 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.920 issue right now, and largely these it happened to call 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.240 this last year. As a matter of fact, it was 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.840 a major one. I think it breached like five hundred 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.920 thousand people, including names and dobs, addresses, tax accounts, socials, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.160 all that stuff that's stolen and sold in the dark web. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.960 Still have no idea who did it, where the information is. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.439 It's just out there in the ether, and there's no 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.800 catching these people, as we've talked about before, Chris, But 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.120 those are two of many. I think the problem for 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.920 me is, and I heard about this firsthand from a friend, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:27.680 Kettering Health Alliance had a ransomware malware attack shut everything down, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.120 and I don't know what the outcome was, but you know, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.480 their pr people kind of played it close to the vest, like, hey, 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.680 everything's fine, we got it under control. We're working on 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.480 the problem and there's no disclosure. Now, if you're that's 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.960 one thing in your company, but if it's your health records, 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.439 if it's your social if it's your address, I need 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:47.120 to know that that information has been compromised and it's transparency, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.079 so you look at it go. You know, I just 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:50.640 don't want to be held accountable. I don't want to 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.319 get voted out if I'm a Middletown City council person, 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.640 if I'm the mayor of Columbus, or I'm the CEO 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.880 of a healthcare operation, I don't want that on my 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.960 I'm the one that staying on my record. So we'll downplay. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.520 That's not good for the people who have been victimized. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.000 Though it's not you know, you know, we we have 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.040 to be better. You know, organizations have to be better 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.360 at communicating. They have to they have to not hide it. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.560 You know, that's where a lot of these classacks are 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.920 lasting against these organizations are starting to come around. The 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.360 one thing I will say is that is that when 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.200 it comes to these records, you know, when you when 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.520 you want, you know, our records, yours of mine already stolen. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.800 You know, the majority of the population over eighteen already stolen. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.319 I mean, there's been so many breaches one after the. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.000 Other that data is out there, especially as social numbers 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.280 things like that. Yeah, where schools come into play in 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:48.120 the municipalities. There's two things that are interesting here. One 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:53.959 is every year as kids turn turns eighteen, right, it's 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.960 a new group of people whose identities haven't been compromised yet. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.000 And so schools are a great place where a packer 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.240 men get high value target information. And what I mean 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.280 high value target is yours. My records sell for about 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.040 a dollar. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.040 Out there in the marketplace. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.760 Some of that's turning step, you know, seventeen eighteen, their 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.439 records are going to sell for a lot more out 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.960 of the hacking marketplace because they haven't been used yet, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:18.920 whereas yours or mine, you know, if they have to 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.240 prove it everything else. So schools are a major target 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.000 for that. So you know, as a parent, one of 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.079 the things you can do right now is make sure 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.240 you get identity SEFF protection for your kids, even though 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.160 they're under eighteen, they have to have that. Make sure 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.640 you lock down their credit because what happens is these 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.160 you know, go to apply for their first vehicle and 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.160 they realize they have apportable credit score because you know 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.400 their identity. Since you know with that, when it comes 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:49.079 to municipalities, you know, we are in an international cyber war, 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.080 it already happens. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.239 Then people in this industry know it. 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.680 We as as you know citizens United States, have to 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.920 realize that that it is an it. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.880 Is an actual border to border war. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.280 And with that, our municipalities, our local police departments are 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.120 emergencies response systems. You know, when cyber war continues to escalate, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.320 those are the places that are going to get shut 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.160 down first, right and you're not going to have the services, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.880 so that there has to be accountability to make sure 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.040 that these things are done right in that our identity 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:21.600 is propected. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.679 Yeah, and I think it's interesting you just assume your 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.320 information is out there as an adult, and so you know, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.760 we have the credit monitoring thing going on and we 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.080 have a lifelog or whatever the version is of it 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.559 that we have, but that's a good brand. And also 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.679 make sure that our credit reports are locked down. And 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.320 so we originally bought a new house and had to 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.319 go remember to unlock all the credit reports for a 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.280 while till they pulled your credit and then locked them 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.960 back up is that the best pay is that the 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:48.960 best you can do to prevent your information from me 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.920 you just assume it's being misused. But if you have 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.040 your credit the three credit viers locked down, then there's 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.320 not much they can do as far as trying to 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:57.119 get credit. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.440 In your name, right right, I mean in that finance 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.840 side of things. So yes, walking things down there, making 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.320 sure you have credit holds, you know, unless you're going 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.280 to purchase something, then turn the credit hold off and 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.959 then turn it back on. Make sure you're working with 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.840 a reputable organization will text your credit. But also make 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.720 sure that you have insurance around it, you know, identity 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.040 sept protection. You know, getting your identity back can cost 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.720 over a million dollars sometimes and so you know, I 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.360 mean it depends you one hundred thousand million, you know wherever, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.960 how widespread that is. So make sure you have insurance, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.680 you know, with whoever you're working with. And again for 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.800 your kids. You have to make sure that you do 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:34.560 that for your kids. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:35.040 If you if you. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.080 Don't, if you haven't done it, do it today, right 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.240 because right because it's it's a growing problem. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.240 Socause you're young, you don't you're not, thank you know, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.000 you haven't pulled any credit yet, and so I don't 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.120 need to lock my credit down. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:45.440 I don't. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.800 But all they need is a social security number. And 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.960 you know, you can be sixteen, seventeen, eighteen and they 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.000 can use that social We've seen them user for dead 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:55.240 people and newborns. Why not teenagers? We just don't think 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.480 of it right. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.680 And the other thing too is you know what, you know, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.120 what your kids you turn eighteen, you know, help them 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.440 put them on your credit card as well. And and 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.520 then that way they have some if something does happen 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.480 where their identity is stolen, you at least have some 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.760 good credit that is built then, so they can they 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:14.640 can bounce it off, you know, set them up for success. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.400 But yeah, it's you know, you know this data is 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:18.079 so widespread. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.360 Companies just I'll just say, companies do. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.240 Not protect data the way they're supposed to. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.360 And and a lot of it isn't their fault in 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:27.000 the sense. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.080 Of what we were talking about earlier. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.280 It's they're the ones that made the decision to choose 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.080 the technology or the solutions that they put in, but 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.640 they don't have the skill set to do the due 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.240 diligence to it or they don't have the budget to 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.520 purchase the things they need, and so it is a 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.560 growing problem. It's going to keep getting worse until there's 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.280 a lot more accountability in place. But then with the 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:52.320 accountability comes regulation, and with regulation there's somethings less, less flexibility. 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.480 So you know, it's a it's a fine line. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:54.960 All right. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.240 So cybersecurity legislation coming together at the Ohio level that 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.720 require municipalities to develop their our own cybersecurity policies. Basically, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.440 hire a good company and that way you've kind of 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.680 got like a back phone, you call someone and instead 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.280 of getting caught with your pants down. And we've seen 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.280 it happen in Columbus, We've seen it happen in Middletown 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.160 and elsewhere, and it's going to happen every day. So 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.280 at least this is a step in the right direction. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.200 And I'll abide to you, Chris, because you're the expert 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.480 here and saying this is good law. Chris n Ihei, 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.960 CEO of Vigilant Cybersecurity and Cincinnati. Always enjoy the conversation, 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.960 the especially the eye opening information. I appreciate you, Nik, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.320 I appreciate it. Great news update and a quarterback Joe 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.400 Flacco were planning for the Bengals this weekend. We'll get 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.560 into that in just minutes. Scott's Loan Show continues right 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:41.200 after new seven hundred WW. Scott's Loan Show back on 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.880 seven hundred WW. There we go, There we go. Man, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:49.680 This the dirty Sentchiz gets weirder and weirder, right. Mark Sanchez, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.400 from our NFL quarterback, is now being sued by the 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.320 sixteennine year old truck driver Perry Tole, the guy severely 0:15:55.360 --> 0:16:01.760 injured in the beatdown on Friday in Indianapolis. Mark Sanchez, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.560 former quarterback for Willa Jets A List, is a broadcaster 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.400 now and he was in town for the game. And first, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.840 initially all the tweets coming out towards Sanchez, Oh, I 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.920 hope he's okay. It was a horrible thing that happened. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.040 Then we learned that, uh, he's the guy initiated this. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.360 So the truck drive six down truck driver is unloading 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.640 his truck. He's like waiting for a shipment of cooking 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.760 oiled or something. He's a loading dock. I think they 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.600 said a receiving area, so I'm guessing was a loading dock. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.040 I don't know. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.760 Maybe it's front of the hotel, so it's late or 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.720 early morning. I guess I should say he's out there 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.640 doing his job. And Sanchez rolls up stinking drunk, I guess, 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.280 just smelling and smelling of alcohols what they said, and 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.120 tells me he's got to move his truck. He's like, oh, 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.480 I'm working, man, I'm not moving my well, you got it, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.680 and he starts like getting in his face and threatening him, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.480 and at one point starts attacking and trying to take 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.680 the phone of the sixte nine year old truck driver. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:57.080 He pulls out Perry told us pepper spray, fires it 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:59.600 at Sanchez fire he goes nuts and starts hitting him 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.160 even harder. So he pulls out a knife and self 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.880 defense and starts cutting up Sanchez, at which point I 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.480 guess he stumbles away and anyway, Perry tolls in the hospital. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.280 I saw the pictures and it looks bad. He got 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.480 his He got despite having the pepper spray and a knife. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.040 He's still a seven year old against a thirty something 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.840 year old former NFL football player, and he got whooped on. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.880 He's the guy's a mess and as a result, now 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.119 he has foiled a lawsuit against Fox Sports as well 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.840 as Mark Sanchez. So it is one of the most 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.639 bizarre I don't know, off field sports related cases I 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.560 think I've ever seen. It was just a craz what so, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.200 what the hell is Sanchez doing? 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:38.399 Tell him? 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.000 This guy's got to move his truck from a loading 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.920 from a loading dock, is unless it was in front 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.639 of the hotel or something. And he's like, I was 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.680 waiting for a ride and thought he had, I don't know, 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.320 kind of like at the airport, you know, people stand 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.560 there and mark their territory when waiting for the pick up. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.720 Like it doesn't work that way. It's first come for renservatives. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.440 There's no reserving a drop up or pickoff spot. It's 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.520 just people show up. Man, what are you going to do? 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.560 And why the hell does Sanchez care? Anyway? The crazy story, 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:08.280 crazy story, all right, more federal furlough Well in this case, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.000 it'd be the furloughed workers that are concerned right now. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.800 And I for since this thing began, been talking about 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.600 the feeder of it, and then you know, eventually what 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.960 winds up happening is we get more and more inconvenienced. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.160 I mentioned yesterday about airports for example, not the big 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.480 although Nashville, I guess was impacted to some degree. But 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.000 you know, they make it just n cut cut enough, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.800 just to make it uncomfortable for me and you to notice. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.280 So you're going to go a fly out of somewhere 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.119 and go, oh my god, the tower's closed and flights 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.959 are delayed, and yeah it's you know, we're not stopping 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.479 are traffic completely, but we're making it uncomfortable for you. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.000 We're going to make it so you notice. But buying large, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.680 the big stuff continues. Only eight percent of the government 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.359 is shut down. It's see eight percent that would make 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.000 us feel uncomfortable. You know, the big stuff is still 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:50.679 going to get taken care of, which is why this 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.439 is all nonsense in theater. And it'd be kind of 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.280 amusing if it were a fact. It was costing us 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.199 even more money we have to borrow, adding more and 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.119 more to the federal deficit and debt every time we 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:05.280 shut the government down for silly reasons. Nonetheless, starting Friday, 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.359 this is going to be the last day Friday for 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.120 many federal workers as far as their paychecks go. And 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.120 a White House memo was leaked out that argues furloughed 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.560 federal workers are not until the back pay after the 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.560 government shutdown lifts, and that kind of contradicts what's been 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.399 said before and done in the past. And of course, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.640 as you know, everything is subject to negotiation, change and 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.480 just getting out right blown up under the current administration, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.959 that's how they roll. There's something called the twenty nineteen 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.920 Government Employee Fair Treatment Act that mandates all federal employees, 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.360 if your furloughed working on pay, must receive back pay 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.520 after shutdown. Not quite sure how that works here. The 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.879 White House thinks that law doesn't automatically cover all furlow workers. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.880 And I know which ones you pick and which ones 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:52.200 you wouldn't. And this is indeed engaging the Democrats to 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.679 get them voted for a continuing resolution to fund the 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.760 government for what seven more weeks before you do this 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.639 all over again. I don't know. My gut reaction to 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.240 the whole thing is. I know there's many people that 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.640 will just no matter what Trump does, they agree with them. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.440 And there's a lot of people like that, for sure. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:08.879 I don't understand that line of thinking quite honestly. I 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.960 think that's silly. But hey, if your team Trump and 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.200 somehow you think that scores you points and you're super 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.359 an ultra maga and you can't drift away from the 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:21.760 little protected group of Thompson's gazelles, away from the pond 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.359 because you're afraid that I know, the liberal line is 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.960 gonna come out and get you or something like that. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.600 That's on you. I don't know. It seems a sense 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.439 of propriety. It's like, if you have a job and 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.679 you don't shot for your job and you don't have 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.560 sick days, or you're out of sick days, you're out 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.520 of vacation days, you're not gonna get paid. Okay, that's 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.119 just how it works in the real world. Now, if 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:46.520 in this case the politicians shut everything down to score 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.560 some points with voters or their constituents, which is all 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.199 this is, then that's not on you. You showed up 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.000 ready to work and the deal is in the past. Well, 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.800 if you shut down and we may not get it 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.800 this week, but at some point I'll be made whole. 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.200 That seems reasonable, you go, well, Sloan, that just adds 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.760 to the national the federal deaf. That's I mean literally, Now, 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:11.320 I think people argue that are pursing in the sense 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:15.480 that it's what the federal plays make. What the four 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.000 hundred thousand, it's such such an insignificant number. I mean, 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.520 it's significant, but it's not. It's the other stuff that 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.480 we continue to do that bankrupt the country. This is 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.320 literally pennies, but you're not worried about the dollars. That 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.080 doesn't make sense to me. And not only that, this 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.440 is actual, real, live human beings, you know. Okay, they 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.320 took a well that's what you get working for the 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.680 federal government. You shouldn't work for the federal goal. Well, 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.680 you know, that's not what they told people when they 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.439 offered the job. It's not like people came to them 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.919 and demanded them to create a position for them. Someone 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.360 at some point said, hey, there's federal jobs available. Here's 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.960 a federal job. And some of these people may have 0:21:45.960 --> 0:21:49.000 been hired under the previous Trump administration or maybe even 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:54.480 during the Bush administration, who knows. Nonetheless, the deal was, hey, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.360 you show up, you get paid, here's the job. Hey 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:58.040 we have a job opening. Okay, grant, I'm gonna go 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.679 into the federal government. And certainly the benefits are really 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.200 damn good. You get every of their day off on 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.640 a holiday. But we know them as the rules. And 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.439 when you have a mortgage to pay, when you have 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.040 a family to take care of, I feel for you 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:13.760 if you're furloughed in the sense that, okay, after Friday, 0:22:13.800 --> 0:22:15.640 I don't have any money coming, and that's a problem. 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.919 But at some point in two weeks a week, whenever 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.280 this thing's settled, maybe been up to what the longest 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.160 one we had with thirty five days, and at some point, 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.320 all right, we'll get you your money. But you know, 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.040 just to simply say, hey, you're not working, you're not 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:33.040 getting paid, you know, just another one of those unforced 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.760 errors that the Trump administration continues to commit. It doesn't 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:38.760 really help. I mean, I can't imagine people that are 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.400 routing who the hell's rooting for someone not to get 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:44.560 a paycheck, going hey, yeah, this is awesome. The pennies 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.720 that we're saving, literally with all the with the thirty 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.639 seven trillion dollars plus in debt we are, this is 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:52.720 going to save literally fractions of cents. Yay, good, let's 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:57.040 punish these What do they do wrong? You know, simply 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.360 we're hired for a job, could have been a year ago, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.280 could have been ten, twenty thirty years ago. Who the 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.080 hell knows, and now they're not getting paid, so I'm 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:06.959 not quite sure a vendors for that matter. It just 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.480 seems kind of pad once again, one of those petty 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.600 things that we continue to do. So you know, if 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.239 you're cheering for someone not to get paid, I think 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:17.960 that reflects upon you more than anything. And all in all, 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.760 it's the notion that somehow we distrusted government this country 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.280 for so long. That has been a cornerstone of America 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.359 really since our foundation. I mean, we broke away because 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:28.760 we hated government. We trust it, and now all of 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:30.920 a sudden, it's like, yay, whether if I'm on team Writer, 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.639 team Blue, no matter what they do is one hundred 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.520 percent right. And I'll point that out to again. If 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.240 you just get government the hell out of the way 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.399 and a lot of us make money and live our lives, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:40.639 it seems to work much better. 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:41.639 You know. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.800 Another area that would be letting parents parent. Would you 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.360 agree that we may not be perfect when it comes 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.720 to parenting, may not be the best parents or in 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.600 retrospect of God, I don't know a parent unless they're 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.800 not completely honest themselves. That later in life, as they 0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.560 age get older and their kids grow up, you go, 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.639 you know, there's some things that would done differently. I 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.360 think you're open and honest with yourself and your kids. 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.320 You go, yeah, there's some things I did or I 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:07.840 thought was right at the time that turns out in 0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.760 retrospect was the wrong thing. And sometimes you luck into 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.520 things they're good as well. I think that's true. But 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.879 they say, you know, there's no handbook, that there's no instruction, man, 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.160 and when it comes to having a child. Plus you're 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.119 also fairly young too, and you have a lot to 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.119 learn in life. I think that's why grandparents are so 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.600 good is because we've been through it. We've seen cycles, 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.520 we've seen history, we've lived it. The stuff we thought 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.880 was important, we realize it's not that important. I think 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:35.040 grandparents are much better parents than actual parents. And that's 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.400 not a slight towards parents. It's just like, you know more, 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:41.119 that's the allegedly the wisdom that comes along and maybe 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.360 I do things a little bit different. And that's why, yeah, 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.600 I've got to Gramma and Grandpa's like, you know, we 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.320 don't have all the strict roles and the nonsense that 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.480 goes with this, and that's the balance of life and 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.840 that's true for every generation. And I bring this up 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.680 kind of playing off of what we just talked about, 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.920 but also the fact that Supreme Court are arguments yesterday 0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.760 and whether this is Colorado, Colorado has a ban as 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.000 I think twenty states do in America. I'm conversion therapy. 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.760 That that the argument is interesting argument. So it's a 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.160 Christian therapist and she is challenging the law that prohibits 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.679 licensed mental health therapists and providers from attempting to change 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.160 a minor sexual orientation or gender identity, called conversion therapy. 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.040 We've heard about this for years and a lot of 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.520 religious groups are behind it because it's biblical to believe 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:26.879 that it's a moral to be gay or lesbian or transgender, 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.520 whatever it might be. And it's been opposed by medical 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.320 organizations because they say, now this is actually more harmful 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.359 to force them into conversion therapy rather than go along 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.760 with it. And you know, we've debated this when it 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.160 comes to transgender issues and the like in the Buckeye 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.320 State as well as Kentucky and Indiana for that matter. 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.960 And so this lady is the k has the case. 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.960 Kaylee Choles is her name, and she's going after the 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.080 rule of the law that prohibits therapists like yourself from 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.400 attempting to change a miner's sex orientation or gender identity. 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.520 She said, it's because it infringes on her ability to 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:03.000 counsel miners within a faith based context. It's a First 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.880 Amendment argument, It's what. It's a really interesting argument, thinking, well, wow, 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.840 if you believe, because of biblical teachings that you can 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:15.399 convert someone to become straight when they're gay, then that 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:19.520 should be allowed. Now would you draw the line the 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.360 abuse and neglect and punishment and you're locking a kid 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.320 in a box and some of these horror stories you 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.520 hear about, I don't know for some of these re 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.560 education camps they call it. Yeah, but if you're to 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.800 counsel them, I think that in a clinical setting, I 0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.480 think that's an entirely different thing. Do I agree with it? 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.240 It doesn't matter because much like the other side of 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.320 this argument would be what's happened in Ohio when it 0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:46.320 came to preventing transgender kids from accessing puberty blockers and 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:49.679 hormone therapist therapy interest in general. And you can say, well, 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.800 that's different. This is this is someone talking, This is 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:55.000 not a chemical you're injecting. It doesn't matter. The fact 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.399 of the matter is that there is a parent and 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.359 there's also a medical community to think that this is 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:05.439 a reasonable and quite honestly not not debilitating process to 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:10.000 in this case try and change someone's gender. Like I 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:14.119 don't get all of it myself, but it seems to 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.280 me that if you're arguing and going, hey, listen, we 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.960 should be fighting for Kaylee Childs in her First Amendment rights, 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.880 in the First Amendment rights of other Christians to counsel 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:29.200 a young person a minor into becoming straight when they're gay. 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.639 I don't know if you can, actually I don't believe 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.119 you can do that, but it doesn't mean you can't try. 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.760 And also either and when you look at what's going 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.080 on with with we talked about the transgender thing, is 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.480 that their parents have fully believe that, Yeah, you know what, 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.080 I've kind of known that my son was maybe it 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:51.520 was a girl, maybe you know, genetically speaking, certainly when 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.919 it comes to the body parts and the biology that 0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.320 they are born a man and they're a man or 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.480 a boy in this case, and you know, they may 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.440 have proclivities to or just being a woman and more 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.960 womanly things. But again, I think that's up to the 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.080 parent to make that tough decision or to try and 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.040 do what's best at what they think at that moment 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.639 based on the permission to have to simply parent. Doesn't 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.480 mean it's right. Could be wrong. But I could say 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.960 the same thing about what's happening with this case in Colorado. 0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.560 Could be wrong, maybe right. Parenting is the toughest job 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.120 in the world, and I know this. We're not good 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.520 at it, none of us are. Because look at the 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.919 state of the world. Most of the problems and crimes 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.560 and everything else we have is why. It's because we 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.520 suck as parents. We've always sucked as parents. They can 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.480 talk about the old days out you know, the good 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:41.600 old day when the good old days parents could parent 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.280 and parents. Yeah, we weren't good parents back then. Either 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.840 you just do the best you can. Hell wasn't that 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.560 long ago. Or we just had kids because we needed 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.640 cheap labor, we needed free labor. Why do you have 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.560 eleven kids all I've got to run the farm? Well, 0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:01.200 you know what, eleven kids because anything about birth control 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.240 or it's against their religions. So we got all these kids, 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.560 and you know somebody's got to I don't know, somebody's 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.640 got to knit those sweaters. Somebody's gotta make those shoes 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.720 in the sweats out. And then the kids were doing 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.760 somebody's got to sit there and break up blumps of coals. 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.320 That comes out of the mind, Well, well let kids 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.479 do that, so it kids is cheap labor. I wouldn't 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.520 say that that's exactly nominously the greatest generation ever of parents, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:23.360 More like the greatest generation ever of people who produced 0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.640 free labor. Cheap labor. But that's what we knew at 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.320 the time. They did the best they could do with 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.800 what we knew at the time, and you really can't 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:33.760 fault people for that same thing. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:33.920 Here. 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.000 It just strikes me is whether it's the people that 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.360 are going to be fighting for the Supreme Court to 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.160 overturn this band on free speech when it comes to Christians, 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.400 or in the fact, when it comes to parents who 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.479 believe it's in their kids' best interests, their family's best interests, 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.360 to allow a kid to go through conversion therapy. Sexual 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:55.680 conversion therapy, it's really not any of my business or yours, 0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:01.720 and it certainly isn't the business of the government now 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:03.680 I'm sure I'll get all blown up and say, well, 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.400 you said it's different. You're putting these poisonous chemicals and 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.320 these things, and you're allowing them to inject their kid 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.840 with I don't know. We alter kids' bodies all the time, 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.080 first and foremost. I mean, then if that's the case, 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.760 then we don't want to alter what God did to you. 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.800 Then why are we circumcising boys still? There's no reason 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:25.160 for that. There's no reason for young babies to have 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.360 ear piercings and stuff. I mean, how far do you 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.680 want to go with government outlawing stuff that you think 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.960 is okay. As a parent, you may cringe at it 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.360 and go, yeah, I wouldn't do that to my kid. 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.200 But again, that's the whole point of this thing. It's 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.920 your child now. Is it neglect? Is it abuse? And 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.520 I love how they try and make this the issue 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.320 of neglect or abuse either way, that you're abusing this 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.600 kid because you're talking about them about Christianity and whether 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.720 it's a good idea and why you shouldn't be gay. 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.040 At the same time, you can apply the same thing 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.560 to what we're talking about when it comes to transgender kids, 0:30:58.240 --> 0:30:59.840 and each side is going to dig their heels and 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.240 scream about why the other side's wrong. But again, it's 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.520 that divisiveness if that's at that one side, and this 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.280 that I'm right and you're always wrong attitude that gets 0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.640 us to the cringy, if not dangerous nature of life 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.280 in America today, where we have political violence and everything else. 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.200 You know, again, the problem is government. So you just 0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:17.920 get the hell out of the way. Let us parent now, 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:19.800 you and neglect abuse, You don't feed your kid. How 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.320 We had a horrific story the other day, and I 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.520 forgot where, but locally where you had these poor babies, 0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.719 three of them that were emaciated. Right, The eight year 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.280 old weighed like thirty pounds, the six year old weigh 0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.080 like ten pounds. Horrible story. And every time I see 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.000 one of those stories, I look at us. There's always 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.200 at least one, if not both, of the parents that 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.080 are fat bastards. Did you ever notice that when it 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.160 comes to the people who starve these poor babies and 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.680 deliberately treat them, I don't know, worse than a pet 0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.200 for whatever reason. You know, one of them, they're always obese. 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.760 It's like, are you eating all their food? I don't 0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.080 understand how you can allow this as a human being 0:31:58.080 --> 0:31:59.920 to happen. But people like that, to me are sub 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.120 Now that's an issue we have all. Okay, that's neglect 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.400 and abuse. What we're talking about here is people just 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.160 trying to get by and do the right thing, and 0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.800 you know we're criminalizing on either side. The sillinessess of 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.680 it is there's so many people willing to go along 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.000 with it because there's an hour a D next to 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:17.960 their name and that's all that matters to them. We 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.120 should not be listening to those folks. Quick time out. 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:21.760 We've got news on the way and just minute, Sloaney 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.560 continues after seven hundred WW do you want to be 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:30.160 an American? Slowly back on seven hundred WLW. The biggest 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.640 news of the well of the week the shock Cincinnati's 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.960 sending a twenty twenty six fifth round pick to Cleveland 0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.040 in exchange for a six round selection and forty year 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.360 old Joe Flacco to SOS save our season, mainly because 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.960 he was available and seemingly he is the only backup 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.600 not tied up in a progressive insurance ad. We couldn't 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.240 get the Veto or Bridgewater. We got Flaco. James rapine 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.800 this year from Sports Illicitris bendelstock dot Com, Lockdo on 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:55.120 Bendel's podcast, James, welcome. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.760 How are you? We're doing great? Are you? 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.360 I'm doing fine? Does this mean that the club is 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.880 confident that that Joe Burrow is going to return in December? 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.520 And I mean that because yeah, normally you look at this, 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.400 it go this, Okay, are we going to win any 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:10.840 more games? Are we going to make some deals, get 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.840 a quarterback, or just right the season off, because let's 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.000 face it, it's not just the quarterback and going down 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.960 as a problem. There's a host of other problems as well, 0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.160 and we have to systematically rebuild and do everything differently 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.560 and get ready for twenty twenty six. This feels to 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.680 me like, hey, you know what, maybe he's coming back 0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:26.200 in the summer. 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:33.920 Oh yeah. And I tried to be indirect with people 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.760 as possible, because you're right, I think a lot of 0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:39.240 people have shut the door on Joe Burrow returning this season, 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:44.280 and internally that is the expectation. Joe takes snatch to 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:49.400 him this year. He set that standard splash expectation. You 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.680 put that on himself before he had surgery, before he 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.840 had surgery. He was like, all right, I'm going to 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.120 be back this year, and so yeah, I think so. 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.560 But like you've seen, the Bengals haven't held up their 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.000 end of the bargain Marlin three without Joe, they've been 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:08.160 out toward one thirteen to what was it, thirteen to 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.640 thirty seven. I had to count all the garbage time 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:15.520 points right in my head with three games with Jake Browning, 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.800 and so yeah, I think that that is a huge 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:23.080 indicator of their plans. They expect Jobert to be back 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.880 this year, but they have to be relevant enough for 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:25.640 him to come back. 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.120 And you know, when this news broke, I was like, wow, 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.879 the Bengals did a deal and they did a deal 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.839 with the division rival, and I was like, yeah, wow, 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.120 it just blew me away. And then I started thinking about, Okay, 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:40.160 it's Joe Flacco and I you know, from the limited 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.520 Browns games I've watched or saw him play. I went 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.960 back and looked at and it just you know, you're 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:46.880 looking at the other options. Okay, who else is available 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.279 out there? And we've run the list down. We run 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.840 the list down on our Monday segment of quarterbacks available 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.640 to take over for Jake Browning and this one now 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.520 in retrospect, it just it just felt like my gut 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.799 reaction was, this is like the best chance of all 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.759 the worst options available right for all intents and purposes. 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.080 It's like a closing time look up. You know, you're 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.319 not the best pick of dudes. She seems like a 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.799 really nice person. She might be an axe murderer. I 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:11.360 don't know. It's a temporary arrangement. 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:17.560 Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. The temporary 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.000 arrangement is the best way to describe it, because you 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.360 bring Joe in here to right the ship and to 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.879 keep the ship at a spot where the other Joe 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:31.800 can come back. And man, I wish he would have 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.760 started with a two and zero start that Jake Browning 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.279 had because it feels much different three weeks later and 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.600 so and will it be enough, I'm not sure, but 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.759 that's very much what it is. Is, Hey, we need 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.520 a guy who can get the ball to our weapons 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.239 and throw the ball to the right spot right, And 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.400 they believe Joe Blacker can do that clearly, Yeah. 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.160 And get up to speed quickly being in the league 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.520 as long as hea spent I mean he can still 0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.360 as you mentioned the biggest thing with Browning is, you know, 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.920 he wasn't sure he's throwing the balls. It's not as 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.879 much physical with with Jake Browning as it is mental, right, 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.960 And and now he's just throwing the ball all over 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.720 the place. Uh, he's a scared dog. And I think also, 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.000 and maybe this is a second thing, is the fact 0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.680 that Joe Flacco, this will be the second time in 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.080 four weeks he's played Green Bay. It's like it's almost 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.160 like he's in the NFC North, he's playing for Chicago. 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:26.960 Yeah, that's right, that's right. I think that that is 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.760 a factor though, that the up to up to speed 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.399 part of it, and then the leadership part of it. 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.200 Later today when we hear from Zach Taylor, I know 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:40.200 they evaluated all these quarterback options and none of us 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.719 really highlighted Flacco too much because of the division part 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:46.839 of it. And that's what's really surprising. The Bengals trading 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.640 with the Browns. That's never happened. So they made history yesterday, 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.840 and so why and the why is, well, you have 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.680 the arm talent, but it's also the leadership in his football. IQ. 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.080 He's seen everything in the league because he's been in 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.120 the league since I was in high school. Yep, you know. 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.720 And so when you can do that, you have experience. 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.840 He's like a year and a half younger than Zach Taylor, 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.759 and so that's a big difference from twenty eight year 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.640 old Joe Burrow or Jake Browning as well as twenty nine. 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.640 So yeah, I think a bunch of factors. But his 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.200 football IQ and leadership are two big reasons why they 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:25.799 wanted him. 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:28.520 All right, But Flaco got bench for a reason. I mean, 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.320 it's not like he was keeping the seat room for 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.640 Dylan Gabriel. Like you know, Cleveland fans, Browns fans, and 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.960 the dog pound it bones through it to those eight 0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.640 hundred pound men and women weren't screaming for Dylan Gabriel. 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.759 This isn't Drake May, right, it's not Russell Wilson turning 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.640 it over to Drake May. This is Dylan Gabriel. And 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.560 we'll get to why. I think this is probably a 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.640 pretty good thing for Cleveland. But flack wan four starts 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.000 the seasons one in three completion rate is fifty eight percent, 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.000 two TV six interceptions his last full season in twenty seventeen. 0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.359 Since twenty seventeen, which is why seven eight years he's 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.600 fourteen and twenty six. Well, okay, you look at that 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:09.160 and you go, wow, he's our guy. Why all right? 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.560 A couple of things. One, some of those interceptions this 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.080 year are not because I went back and watched, because 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:18.759 if you look at the numbers, you're right, You're like, 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.200 come on, he's been Jake Browning for the Browns. And 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.080 just think back to Week one. Didn't it feel like 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.239 the Browns let the Bengals off the hook because it 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:32.160 drops that led to interception? Yep, there really wasn't you know, 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.480 Jerry Judy can cash or Harold Fannings can catch that. 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.960 They were probably having a different conversation when it comes 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.960 to that game. And so I think that his weapon 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.520 let him down at times this year. Last year with Indy, yeah, 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.279 the record was a little lost two and four, but 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.759 he completed nearly sixty five percent of his passes, was 0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.040 able to operate that offense. And then the year prior, 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.720 he led the Browns to the playoffs and ap Comeback 0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.719 Player of the Year and four and one as a 0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:05.080 starter in the regular season and was a key piece 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.880 and a big reason why they were able to rally 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.920 with Deshaun Watson out. So I think that's what you 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.279 look at is all right, Well, he's been in these 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.080 weird situations, back against the wall situations. This year was 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.759 weird and awkward and clunky from the get go, and 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:26.920 his weapons put him down. But it is valid. I mean, 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.000 I think a lot of people thought Joe Blacker was 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.560 done years and years ago in twenty nineteen when he 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:35.000 joined the Denver Broncos. What's twenty twenty five? You know, 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.920 how much does he have? How much can he give? 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:42.000 Clearly he still wants to play, and in that when 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.640 he sounds Cleveland in the offseason and that's a weird 0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.719 situation with two rookie quarterbacks. Fine, well, now you get 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.480 a chance to play here and play for the playoffs. 0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.560 Yeah, and that's one thing Cleveland doesn't have a shortage 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.400 of his quarterbacks. He is James Rapine from bengalstock dot Com, Lockdown, 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.920 Begels and breaking Down. Of course, the news that the starter, 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.520 presumably on Sunday, is going to be Joe Flacco. Yes, 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.919 that Joe Flacco gotten from the Browns for a six 0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.640 round pick. He comes over to take over for a 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.560 dismal Jake Browning, although I'm looking at Flaco's numbers, we're 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.920 talking about that not really all that much better, arguably 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.240 worse in some cases. But I look at this and go, okay, 0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.359 so what's the difference between offensive lines? It's not, isn't 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.600 The problem here in Cincinnati is we've often talked about 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.759 not just you know, Joe Burrow covers up a lot 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.200 of mistakes. When there's no Joe Burrow, I don't know 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.319 how many quarterbacks can come in and gloss that over 0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.680 as he has now for a number of seasons. You've 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.560 got a bad offensive line, You've got questions of defense, 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.279 play calling. There's a lot of issues that's wrong with 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.239 this team, or at least questionable with this team as 0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.000 far as Joe Flacco coming in and getting time to 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.640 do what he does, and that's through the deep ball. 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.840 How to the Browns line offensive line compared to the 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:50.759 Bengals offensive line. 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:56.000 I think the Bengals offensive line is certainly worse at 0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.600 run blocking because the Bengals have really struggled in that area. 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.040 And that's what I think is going to be interesting, 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:07.239 is just Joe Flaco does his arm and his arm 0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:11.080 strength open up the deep ball, which will then in turn, 0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:14.080 give the Bengals a chance to run the ball a 0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.200 bit more effectively, because they certainly haven't been able to 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.080 do that at any point this year. But I do 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.880 think that the Bengals, from my pass blocking standpoint, might. 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.120 Have the better offensive line. 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:29.879 Now, can you go the Joe Burrow route and drop 0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.399 Joe Flacco back fifty times a game? 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:32.560 Like? 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:37.799 I don't think that's realistic, right, But in a true 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.279 pass blocking situation, can they hold up? I do think so. 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.080 Offensive line is a huge shot in the town Scott 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:47.319 and rightfully so. And they had their failures the other day, 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.840 and they have had their issues throughout the year, but 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.239 I think the past two games they did enough to 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:58.840 give this Bengals offense a chance and Jake Brownings simply 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.520 did not make the play. Is that we're there, and 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.840 that that's the difference. J is gonna get hit, you 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:11.160 know everyone's he's gonna get hit. But if he makes 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:12.719 the plays that are there, I do think that this 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.640 offense will be better, will be more explosive. But yeah, 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.280 that the offensive line is a huge factor here moving forward. 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.279 Yeah, I look at it and go, well, the other 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.640 factor that we had mentioned, James is the fact he's 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.279 forty years old. I mean, you pocket passer, he can't 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.719 move out of the pocket. We saw Joe be able 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.480 to do that. There's another quarterbacks can do that. He 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.480 is just gonna he's going to be stationary and throw 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.640 the ball. He's not gonna be able to run. So 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:37.840 I look at that and go, wow, it's not going 0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:39.960 to take much. Then if he's locked in the pocket 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.399 and can't even roll out and extend the play, these 0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:43.880 guys are going to tee off on them. And I 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.800 don't want to say it's impossible that we have a 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.280 sample size a decent one now and how this offensive 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.279 line is blocked, and it's certainly there are plays where 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.280 he's going to have a little bit more time than others, 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.680 and maybe not as being gun shy and broken as 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.759 Jake Browning. But that that concerns me is the fact that, 0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:01.600 all right, well, you the run game is pretty much 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:03.600 non existent with Chase brown We're a run game in 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.640 the NFL. We don't have to worry about the run 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:08.719 with this team. And now we're gonna now we're going 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.000 to target the quarterback and try and take away everything downfield. 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:15.160 From that seems like a fairly easy task base what 0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.680 I've seen for the first number of games with this team. 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.759 And then on top of that, you turn the ball 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:21.680 over to the defense and say what you will about 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.480 the Bengals, you know, kind of mid defense. Brown's had 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.399 one of the best defenses in the National Football League. 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.200 So they're going to get the ball back to the quarterback, 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.279 their quarterback more than the Bengals are doing. What am 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:33.839 I missing here? 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.160 I totally agree there. You're not missing anything when it 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:43.840 comes to that, and I think it's twofold one. The 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:47.120 Bengals they're set up to win games because of their weapons, 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.160 and so they felt like obviously Jake wasn't getting in 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:54.560 outside of their weapon to have a chance. So there's 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.719 one two. You're right, their defense is not going to 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.919 win them games. It's not for that there. That wasn't 0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.440 the expectation coming into the year. Remember how many how 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.200 many times did you hear a Hawks the defense is 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.000 just average, right? I mean that was such a thought. 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.759 And then Joe Burrogh goes down the offense stinct and 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.719 everything feels differently, So, uh, look, this offense is going 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.360 to have to score points. I also think when you 0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:23.640 talk about the time to throw. This is where Zach 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.880 Taylor comes in. Pressures on Zach now because they went 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.200 and they got a quarterback in mid year. And I 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.359 get it. He's not the he's not the Jill everybody wants, 0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.000 but he's still capable. And so now, can can he 0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:44.440 give Joe Flacco enough answers offensively, quick game offensively to 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:48.000 set up the play action stuff and the deep pats 0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.719 in the explosive offense and he do what we've seen 0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.240 from some of these other offensive line as head coaches 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.359 for their backup quarterbacks. That's that's what I look at, 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.359 and that's where I say, all right, well, let's see 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.000 what Dak can do with a guy that that clearly 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.080 still has a live enough arm to get the ball 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.400 to their weapons. So I think that there's some some 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.960 pressure on Zach Taylor here as well, following this move 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:13.120 in this trade for Joe. 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:18.719 Blackouh forwards Micah Parsons, Rashan Gary go. 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.040 Yeah, that's right, and a Marius Menz Orlando Brown Jr. 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.400 You know it's uh oh boy. 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.759 Right, And and Joe Blacker had to see this first 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.400 time a few weeks ago, and it was tough on 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:35.320 the I mean they should have lost that game, and 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.080 the Browns bought tooth and nail and found a way 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.000 to win. And Joe Flaco made a few nice throws 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.560 in that game, twenty one thirty six passes, about forty 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:49.520 two had an interception, no touchdowns. But yeah, it's it's 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.160 a tough ask. There's a tough ask to say, Hey, Joe, 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.840 we we traded for you, and five days later, we 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.920 want you to go up against Micah Parsons on the 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:58.000 road at Lambo. 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.520 And boy, here's the here's the thing, right, because you're 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.560 gonna see a lot of comparisons in the broadcast, and 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.680 I'm sure Dan and Lapple do the same thing. It's like, hey, 0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:06.960 you know, Cleveland goes to greenit beats him, and it 0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:08.839 was Joe Flacco orchestra and this whole thing. And if 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.160 they come out and look as bad or as close 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.000 to as bad as they did against the Lions and 0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.879 in previous games, it's going to turn towards Zach Titter 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:17.840 pretty quickly, is it not? 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.719 It certainly could now Really one clarification that game was 0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:24.480 in Cleveland, it was not at Lambla. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:25.959 Okay, okay, your. 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.200 Point's still the same, though you need to have a 0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:31.359 good showing. You've been outscored one thirteen to thirty seven 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.400 over the past three games if you take out garbage 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:38.000 time touchdowns one thirteen to nine when the game was 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:42.480 on the line, essentially, So it's, uh, it's it's just 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:43.000 really tough. 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:45.120 Plus you're gonna play with a very small playbook too. 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.560 It's not like they're going to come in and you know, 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.880 they got to blow everything up and go with a 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.799 real fairly basic playbook, I guess for Joe Flacco, right, 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.840 or maybe more than more so than a rookie quarterback. 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:56.120 I mean, I mean, there's there's only so much you 0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:57.839 can learn in what two days, three days? 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.880 There is there is. But what I would say, sometimes 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:10.879 simple is what makes sense. Brown. Well, I just watched 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.480 Jake Brown and throw the ball and miss Chinsley when 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.640 he had a wide oven Jamar Chase run across his 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.560 face against the Broncos with the games still hanging in 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:22.440 the balance, and like those those easy plays, like if 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.200 Joe Flacker can make those easy leads and those easy plays, 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.319 well that should lead to points on offense, we'll lead 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.120 to wins. I don't know, but there were a lot 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.480 of simple and basic plays that Jake brown just was 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.240 not seeing and left on the field. 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.320 Yeah, and and not to say, you know, all negative 0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.000 is that he's going to die. And and there's a 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.960 good chance we may see Jake Browning again. James correct, 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:45.280 there's a good chance. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:51.239 I mean, you cannot lose lose Jake Browning. You got 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.839 to keep him, to keep him, You've got to keep 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:55.400 him dialed in, you got to keep him. 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.239 I agree with imagine we lose our second Joe to 0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.680 turf toe? Could you imagine that's two Joe's two toes? 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.680 Be unbelievable, the most Bengel thing of all time. But 0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:09.560 you know, and and to not say it's the glass 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.960 is completely empty at this point that the Bendal said 0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:14.680 to do is that the AFC North is a team 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.319 of I mean, you can get there. At this point, 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.240 it feels like it's only gonna be eight nine wins. 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:21.480 Look at the parody, especially AFC right now, it's anyone's 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:23.239 anyone's title to grab. 0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:24.399 Yeah. 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:28.399 I think that's the other element here is we've seen 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:32.120 how quickly it can change for the Ravens, for the Bengals. 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.440 What if it changes for the Steelers. They have a 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.680 forty one year old quarterback to get mood that doesn't 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.320 get hit. Yep, you know, And so it can change 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.360 in a hurry. You have the Steelers on the schedule 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.440 coming to town next week, and so yeah, you're in 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.480 the second place right now in the North, as weird 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.560 as it sounds. So let's see if you can piece 0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.200 together a couple of wins here and hang around and 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:54.600 see where you're at it in a few weeks. 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.719 Hey, at least they're doing something. I mean, it may 0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.440 not be that good, the best, as I said, it's 0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.520 the best option, the best chance of all the worst 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:02.400 options available. It's closing time, and you got to go 0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.359 with somebody. It's Joe Flacco. We'll go to Joe too. 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:06.200 Uh. 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:08.640 And now he's played for every team in the division 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:13.160 except for Pittsburgh possibly, who knows what stranger things may happen. Anyway, 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.279 he's James Rapine of this odd But at the end 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.320 of the day, it's like, why the Bengals did something 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.960 is to show you just what our expectation levels. It 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.680 felt like, Okay, they went and got a name, you 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:26.040 know what, All right, good for them? 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:32.200 Yeah, I agree. I hope he's hope he's fun to watch, 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:34.560 and uh yeah, a couple of weeks ago when I 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:36.919 mentioned quarterback, I kind of got laughed at the fact 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:39.840 that we're here now. It says a lot about Jake Browning, 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.920 says a lot about where the Bengals feel they are right. 0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.640 And and not knowing Jake Browning was going to be 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.080 that bad. I think that is also, you know, again, 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.960 part of the narrative when you look at Zach because 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:54.040 if this thing goes south on Sunday, then it's like, okay, well, 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:55.719 and then you got a quarterback that's won a Super 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.800 Bowl and you still can't do anything. And now that 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.000 that square gets the circle, it's tighter and tighter around 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:02.680 around Zack Town and the coaching staff. 0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:02.960 All right. 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.439 He's James for Peen, a busy man over at Sports 0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.759 Illustrated Bengals Talk dot com lockdow on Bengals jumps on 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.759 our show every Monday morning, Uh to chop up the 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.520 game and uh, of course when quarterbacks break in, he 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.400 breaks out, James, Thanks, appreciate it. Thanks, I appreciate you 0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:21.160 all the best, and we'll get to a news update here. Uh, 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:22.880 it does make you want to watch and go Okay, 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.279 I'll want to watch that. Hell yeah, gonna I'm gonna 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.120 see that. You'd watch Jake Browning or listen to Jake 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.279 brown and go, Okay, well I got other stuff did 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.319 I'm gonna cut the grass. I'm gonna go h yeah, Okay, 0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.879 I'm gonna go. I'll get some yardwork done now because 0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:37.480 this game's over and it's like, you know, midway through 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.920 the first quarter now with Joe Flacco, bad different story, 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:49.240 they did something. It's something Sloaney seven hundred ww helping 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:54.320 you put the big P in profession. Here's our career, 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:55.960 Sir Julie Balki. 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:56.239 Yeah. 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:59.120 Every Wednesday morning, Julie jumps in with current advice and 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.719 news and what's happen in the headlines and what may 0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.000 be happening to you behind the scenes and the like, 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.160 and she joins the show again on this beautiful Wednesday morning. 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.680 Did discuss Julie, We've on the past talked about, hey, 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.440 being prepared and laying make sure your networked and getting 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.680 on LinkedIn and what to do and have your resume 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.520 ready and where to go and all those things and 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.879 getting ready for the event you decide you've had enough 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:22.520 and it's like you want to pivot and do something else, 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:26.320 or go somewhere else and take your talents elsewhere across 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.439 the street, or start your own thing. We talk about 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:32.520 that fairly regularly. Very rarely we talk about losing your 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:39.120 employment and being completely blindsided by because that does happen. 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.760 It just happened. We see companies, large, medium and small 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:44.680 where it's like, hey, things are going great, I'm doing 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.400 everything I can, I'm doing the best I can, and 0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:47.840 all of a sudden it's like, hey, you know what, 0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:50.560 It's just a line on a piece of paper and 0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:52.520 it's about keeping the light. Time just happened to my 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:54.279 sister in law, as a matter of fact, working in 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.600 the food service sector. She was a regional running a 0:51:58.719 --> 0:52:00.480 number of I don't want to say the company, but 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.479 they involved desserts and cookie fashion and everything was great 0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:06.480 until they said, hey, listen, you know what, we're upside 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.920 down on the numbers. You got to go and did 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:10.680 not see this coming out. All happens all the time, 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.440 yet we don't talk about it all that much, and 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.240 so in hindsight's always twenty twenty, and once it happens 0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.120 to you, it feels like it's too late to do anything. 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.600 About that situation. You can improve it for the future, 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:21.560 but what about right now? 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.359 Yeah, I mean we've talked, like you said, we've talked 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.920 about this often, and you've heard me say often be 0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:31.000 ready to say, be ready to go, And I think 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.360 it's again, it's just it's me pleading with people to 0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.520 think that way. But we know that most of us don't, 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.080 especially if we know we're performing well, if our results 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:46.160 are good, if we know that we are respected, it's 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.800 very easy to fall into the it's not going to 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:50.960 happen to me, and it doesn't. 0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:53.080 And it used to be back in the. 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.279 Nineties and all these big layoffs started happening, it was 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.840 really just people who were underperforming. But we've seen the 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:02.920 last fifteen twenty years, especially in two thousand and eight, 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.760 people who are performing, who have great stories, great stats, 0:53:09.040 --> 0:53:15.920 are indeed impacted. And it's become so common that even 0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:19.719 the process of reference checking is less because it used 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:21.640 to be if you got let go, you weren't doing 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.680 a good job, your companies want to check up on you. 0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:25.600 But now it's so many. 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.239 Really good people have been let go. And here is 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:31.720 when I look at the danger zone, when it comes 0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:36.480 to how you might screw up your job search right 0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.719 away at the beginning. It's right now, because if you've 0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:43.799 been told let's say yesterday or last week, don't come 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:49.000 back tomorrow, and it is truly a shock to your system. 0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:52.200 The first thing we want to do as humans is 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:53.480 feel better about ourselves. 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.000 Is to believe that we were. 0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:57.080 Not doing anything wrong. 0:53:57.280 --> 0:53:57.840 So what do we do. 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.640 We pick up the phone, we start calling people. 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:01.759 Can you believe it? 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:05.920 And it ain't probably pretty the conversation. And so what 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.560 we're doing is we're trying to make ourselves feel better. 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.560 And so the what I tell people is if you've 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.960 can dealt this blow, the most best thing you can 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:20.400 do is take a step back, take a breath, process 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.600 through your emotions with family or extremely close friends. You 0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.480 don't need and do not get out there and blast 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.520 your organization in any way, shape or form. I see 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.400 that happen on social media, and I cringe because I 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:38.680 think all you're doing is showing how you handle adversity. 0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.480 And so when it's so, the best thing to do 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:46.919 when you are blindsided is acknowledge I did not see 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.840 this coming. I need to process this. I need to 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:51.640 take a breath, I need to pull the covers over 0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:53.440 my head. You don't have to do this for a 0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.120 very long time, but you do have to at least 0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.040 do it, I would say, for a few days to 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.680 get to to really catch your breath and start thinking about, Okay, 0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:05.680 how can I turn this this these lemons and lemonade. 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:09.920 It doesn't mean that after three days of you know, 0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:14.160 binge watching stupid TV, you're you're over it and you're 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:14.840 ready to move on. 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:16.000 It is a process. 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.959 Losing your job is one of the top three life 0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.640 stressors that we have, right up there with divorce. 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:22.280 And loss of a spouse. 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.000 And so I think, you know, it's easy to well, 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.759 it's just work, It's just a job. Why am I 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.600 self said it's just a job. No, For many of us, 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.920 it's our identity, even if we hated it, even if 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:36.560 we were miserable. Having somebody else make that decision for 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:40.040 us feels really, really bad. And so you've got to 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.920 acknowledge that and allow yourself time to process it before 0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:47.120 you put your head up and start thinking. 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:47.600 About what's next. 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:50.840 And ad is some sage advice there, because normally you 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.720 want to snap me a call all your co workers 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:54.840 can can you believe and engage in gossip and have 0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.759 the pity party for you because it's all about you 0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.880 and that's so enticing, but that goes against better judgment. 0:56:00.960 --> 0:56:02.759 Of course should win in this case, and that is, hey, 0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:05.360 listen nothing, I'll talk to you at some point, but 0:56:05.840 --> 0:56:07.719 I need a couple of days. I need some time 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:09.880 just to process this. And then, you know, put your 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.520 phone on no notifications and silent, don't answer the phone, 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:15.919 and just let it go to voicemail, and just kind 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:18.360 of process stuff for a couple of days. That's some 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:20.400 really really good advice because it's just easy to go 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.960 and you know, and then you'll be empowered with all 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.160 the people saying you got screwed, and then feel and 0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:26.439 go do something stupid. 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:32.440 Exactly exactly, and you will just know this job locks 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:36.920 is a huge emotional rollercoaster, so you will I know 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:41.200 people who have felt the first emotion I felt was relief. Yeah, 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:45.120 I'm unhappy with that anyway, that after several days or 0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:48.239 a week or two, they were angry. Yeah, and then 0:56:48.320 --> 0:56:49.600 wait a minute, why am I angry? 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:51.080 I didn't like that job? 0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.839 And then maybe you go into sadness and then release again. 0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.000 And so it really is the stage of the grief, 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.719 experiencing it sometimes all in a day or two. And 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.200 what I also see a lot of times is with 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.160 your partner, your spouse, the people who are closer to you, 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.680 they're angrier than you are because they can't do anything 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:11.560 about it. They're upset that this was done to their 0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:15.839 loved ones. And so make sure that you are communicating 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.439 openly with the people around you and saying, you know what, yes, 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:23.080 this was not this is not my choice. There's a 0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:26.240 lot of budgetary things going on, or we've been acquired 0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.720 by another company or whatever it is, and so it's 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:31.440 gonna it's going to happen to someone, and it happened 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.320 to me. I'll be okay and I will be ready 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:36.720 to accept help soon. 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.600 But for now, you know, I just need events. 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:40.520 I need to process. 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.440 And you might vent with someone else, or you might 0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:44.959 vent with the covers pulled over your heads. 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:47.840 And it's different for everyone, is which And I've been 0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.200 through it before, not and for a long time, but 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:50.640 I've been through it, and it is it's like a 0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:53.360 it's like stages of grief really. I mean, it's the 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.680 shock initially and then it's like, well, this is stupid. 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.400 They'll call me back because they can't live without me, 0:57:58.440 --> 0:57:59.960 and then you realize, wow, they can. Then you can 0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:03.480 angry about the situation, and then you become well, maybe 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:05.320 it's me and I'm useless and I have no one 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.360 nothing to offer anyone else, and you go throw these 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:11.280 different stages, and then complacency after a couple of weeks, 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.280 and the people at work stop calling you because while 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.000 they're going on with their lives, their work lives. 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:15.600 Uh. 0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:17.840 And you're not part of the daily gossip chain anymore. 0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:19.760 And you may have a friend or two still that 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:23.160 contacts you, but that'll become few and far between, and 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.080 and that's what life looks like. And eventually you feel 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.120 like you're in a desert island and you're kind of like, uh, 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.920 you know, Tom Hanks and castaway and you're laying on 0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.320 a shore waiting for the for the seagulls to peck 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.520 your eyeballs out. And then things turn around, and often, 0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:37.600 as I found out, things turn out for the better. 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.320 That there's opportunities out there you don't foresee, and those 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.960 doors open when another closes. It's so true. But the 0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.440 immediacy of the shock and the horror of it all, 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.840 and then I'm not even including things like healthcare and money, right. 0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:51.920 I mean, look at these furloughed federal workers that tomorrow's 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.080 their last check. And then there's stories coming out of 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:55.560 the White House that we may not pay you even 0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:57.480 when you come back and you still have a job. 0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.400 So these are uncertain times. I just yesterday at eleven 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.880 thirty five. Every Tuesday, I have our buddy Andy Schaffer 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.640 on from all Worth Financial. I mentioned the fact that 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.280 Fifth Third is acquired co America Bank out of Dallas 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.919 for eleventy billion dollars, and I said, okay, they said 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:15.800 everyone's job is safe right now. How soon before people 0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:17.800 get started to get thrown out the window? And that's 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:20.200 going to happen because you know, hey, will you do 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.120 the same job as this person in Dallas, or the 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.000 person in Dallas does the same job as a person 0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:27.160 in Cincinnati's overlap. People are gonna lose their jobs eventually. 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.000 That always happens. They tell you it's not going to 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:30.400 and you go, no, no, no, no, we need you, 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:32.840 We need you to keep things going until we don't 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.280 need you anymore, and that will happen at some point. 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.720 Yeah, in the minute, let's say, let's say in this situation. 0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:42.400 Would I tell every single Co America employee is be 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:44.640 ready to say you're ready to go? Yes, you want 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:46.640 to see is there a place for me? It's justif 0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.480 third that might feel really good and might really use 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:53.560 my skills. But if not, or I find that it's 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.040 not a culture fit or whatever it is, whatever they 0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:57.760 want me to do, I don't want to do. You 0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:58.840 have to be ready to. 0:59:58.880 --> 0:59:59.840 Begin a job search. 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.919 And so that blind loyalty of the company is looking 1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.360 out for me is not only not a thing, but 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:09.080 it's never been a thing. As much as we want 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:12.600 to tell ourselves that it exists, it doesn't. It is 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.760 in the company's interest to have you believe that they. 1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:19.000 Are being loyal to you, and they want to play 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:21.080 up the whole Hey, we're your family and your work 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:23.080 family and everything else. And then I don't know, but 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.920 I you know, I sometimes disagree. Fortunately for us, I've 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:27.960 got a really good relationship with everyone in my family. 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:30.920 You know, we may have disagreements or a little thing, 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:33.360 and flare ups happen from time to time, but the 1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:34.720 end of the day, we love it. You don't have 1:00:34.800 --> 1:00:38.000 that your business. It's a business relationship. But conflating that 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:38.560 with family. 1:00:38.560 --> 1:00:43.480 I've got a real family, yes, exactly, exactly, And it 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:47.880 can feel when even if it's a privately held business 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.880 and there are family members in the company, if you 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:51.960 don't have that last. 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.360 Name or honor in that family treat bingo, you aren't 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.800 want to be treated as such. I don't care if 1:00:56.800 --> 1:01:01.080 you baby, that's the founder's kids, it's you know, it's 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:02.960 just it's just, you know, I beat my head against 1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:05.760 the wall on this because it's just people who want 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:09.400 to believe that they're that they're safe, that they're going 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:12.919 to be fine, and it's I guess that's a real 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:13.960 human nature, but we. 1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:15.600 Have evidence it's not that way anymore. 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:19.040 To the contrary, you're not that subtle. 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:21.760 The only organization I can think that still operates that 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:27.080 would be our football team, Julie, where there's family and 1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:29.560 there's loyalty and it's a family business. Once you're in, 1:01:29.680 --> 1:01:32.360 you're never going to get fired. She's Julie Balki our 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.120 career shirt, but she pops on every Wednesday. Today we're 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:37.760 talking about unexpected job loss. We often talk about getting 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:40.400 ready and getting prepared and you know, making sure everything's 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:42.320 up to date. In your networking group, and what's the 1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:44.960 next step, and can your side hustle turned into a 1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:46.800 full time job. And that's a great dream for a 1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:50.760 lot of people, but in reality, sometimes you know what, 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:53.200 you wind up loosening your job in these times for 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.360 no reason whatsoever. And I think that's the thing. We 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:57.360 tip so much of our self worth, Julie, because a 1:01:57.400 --> 1:01:59.040 lot of this is mental. We should talk to the 1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:01.560 other Jewelie about the Julie hattersh your mental health. Mondays 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.480 about this and that we tie a lot our self 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:06.400 worth up in what we do for a living, and 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:09.640 when that goes away, we're thrown in a turmoil. If 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.480 you identify for what your your value and your worth 1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:14.320 and how much you make and who you what you 1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.040 do to make that money, I think you're setting yourself 1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:19.680 up for problems because at some point, unless you own 1:02:19.760 --> 1:02:22.240 the company, the chances are, at some point they're going 1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:24.880 to go yesterday, we couldn't live without you. Today, we're 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.560 going to start trying. When that happens, you're in for 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:30.960 a while. The literally, the earth, the seas, and the 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:32.280 sky have just swallowed you up. 1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:35.960 So are we saying that Joe Blackhoe should not look 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:36.520 into change. 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:40.840 I'm saying is, you know, he's forty years old, he's 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:42.959 made a great career in the second half of his career, 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:45.280 ought to be in a backup quarterback. I mean, he's 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:48.000 got a super Bowl ring, he achieved the ultimate dream, 1:02:48.080 --> 1:02:51.200 he's got a got a Lombardi Trophy with the Ravens. 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:53.920 And you know, since I think in the past what 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:56.080 seven or eight years, it hasn't been so good for 1:02:56.200 --> 1:02:59.360 Joe Flacco. But he's still making NFL money, he's still 1:02:59.360 --> 1:03:02.240 getting signed, so good for him. Maybe it's good for Cincinnati. 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.320 I don't know, but he keeps landing on his feet. 1:03:05.400 --> 1:03:07.880 So for Joe Flacco's case, like I thought, I've played 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:09.600 myself out of a job and then all of a 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:12.160 sudden the Bengals come knocking. So there's some inspiration there. 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:16.200 Well, we think about really in major league sports, you 1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:18.280 can be on the mound one day and at the 1:03:18.440 --> 1:03:20.280 end of it and pulled off the mound and be 1:03:20.480 --> 1:03:23.120 on a bus or a plane to another team that night. 1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:30.160 So they understand. They understood that it's not personal because 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:34.120 that's how their profession operates. It doesn't mean that trans 1:03:34.560 --> 1:03:38.320 isn't hard, because it is always hard because you build relationships. 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:40.840 But we can take a page out of that playbook. 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:44.480 You will be around until it is no longer useful 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:46.040 for us to have you around. 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:49.640 And you know what, that is such a great comparative, 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:51.960 Julie Buck. This is why you're awesome about what you do. 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:52.760 That is so true. 1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:56.240 Mean of all the occupations, you know, being a professional athlete, 1:03:56.880 --> 1:03:59.919 they know, hey, listen, if someone better comes along, someone younger, 1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:03.600 that that flash is better than I do. My job's over. 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:05.360 I got to be sharp every time I get out 1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:08.600 there and perform, perform, perform, And when it happens, almost always, 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.240 there's no animosity. It's like, okay, what do I need 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:13.080 to know? Okay, well, here's your ticket. You're gonna go. 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:16.040 We treated it to Cincinnati from Cleveland. Okay, Hey, good 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:17.880 luck to see you later. Thanks, Joe, take care, Okay, 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:21.040 we'll see you great. And there's no crying and calling 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:23.959 your friends and crying and complaining and you know, throwing. 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:26.280 It's like they just go and they do the next thing. Now, 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:29.640 same thing when someone gets released, you know, at crany camp, 1:04:29.680 --> 1:04:31.480 it's like, oh man, I thought I made the team, 1:04:31.600 --> 1:04:33.120 or like yeah, I made the team every year and 1:04:33.200 --> 1:04:34.960 now I don't make the team, and now I'm out 1:04:34.960 --> 1:04:36.400 of a job and I'm looking at it. But that's 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:39.120 the we accept. Why do we accept that in in 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:42.640 regular business and regular work because it's been that way 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:44.880 for a long time. It's nothing new. It's been going 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:47.800 on the same way for a long time. And you know, 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.400 professional athletes are coddled, they're treated special people. And we 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:54.240 see this, you know, we see how they're treated much 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:56.160 different than the rest of us. Why do we have 1:04:56.600 --> 1:05:00.160 in work? Why do we have the sense that they 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:02.240 can't live without it and like the world's over. When 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:04.960 I when I realized my positions, when I when they 1:05:04.960 --> 1:05:07.080 found someone better, they go, hey, listen, we're making cuts. 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:09.040 It's the way it is. It's not you, it's just 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:10.960 it's a line. It's a line at them thing. Why 1:05:11.040 --> 1:05:12.200 do we have such a hard time with it? 1:05:13.280 --> 1:05:16.480 That's a great point, you know, when when most professional athletes, 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:21.040 we don't. We don't generally you'll see when someone gets cut, 1:05:21.120 --> 1:05:24.160 when you see the social media chatter, Oh they'll be fine, 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:26.080 you know they're when a see same with the CEO, 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:28.680 it loses their jobs, right. Oh, there was a big 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:31.080 what kind of big buyout to see it they'll be fine. 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.600 But those of us who don't generally have those kind 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.160 of safety nets, it is a it is a. 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:38.280 Harder blow touch. 1:05:39.080 --> 1:05:42.800 And we also, especially older generations were very rate and 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:45.440 I see Gen X and Boomers were raised in a 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:50.360 time where there was some level of expectation that you know, 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:51.400 see I was. 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.640 I think eighteen if you think about right, so I. 1:05:54.800 --> 1:06:00.280 Was probably in my but thirty or so when third too, 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:04.800 when bigger layoups start happening. But up until that point, 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:10.120 it never occurred to me really that I'd be let 1:06:10.240 --> 1:06:13.480 go unless I did something really bad. And so in 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.360 a lot of it was it was what's inside of us, 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:19.520 what we saw our parents go through, and we believe 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:23.960 that if we're doing a decent job, that were good 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:28.040 and if we aren't, if we and i'll tell you 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:32.120 what being in HR there's this thing about human denial. 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:36.720 So I remember having to let people go where they 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:40.360 have been warned and told a thousand times you need 1:06:40.480 --> 1:06:42.840 to stop doing A and start doing B. And they 1:06:42.960 --> 1:06:45.440 kept doing it, kept doing A, kept doing A, and 1:06:45.480 --> 1:06:47.240 then it was time to let them go. They were shocked, 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:52.480 they tell you, shocked. I think there's just this this 1:06:52.680 --> 1:06:54.919 thing that we have that we believe. 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:56.000 We're going to be okay. 1:06:56.680 --> 1:06:59.880 There's some level of delusion there too, but I don't know. 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:02.720 It's an interesting it's interesting different. 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:05.120 Maybe because like in a professional sports atmosphere, you know 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:06.560 your job's on the line. You got to be you 1:07:06.600 --> 1:07:07.760 can't be a dream you gotta be a realist. I 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:09.480 believe in yourself. At the same time as like coach 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:12.000 is telling you, it's like you've seen it happen other players, 1:07:12.080 --> 1:07:15.360 and uh, you know, for a professional athlete, you know, 1:07:15.880 --> 1:07:18.640 unlike you're working stuff like us. It's a different story 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.600 because they've got a cushion, right, they're making a lot 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:23.840 of money and hopefully they've got some set aside for 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:26.640 that because they're making a lot more bank you know, 1:07:26.680 --> 1:07:28.920 when you start talking about furloughed workers for the government, 1:07:29.000 --> 1:07:31.480 that's a different story trying to make a paycheck and 1:07:31.840 --> 1:07:34.520 meet end to end. So she is Julie Boukai, our career, 1:07:34.600 --> 1:07:37.400 shirp of this morning. Uh, and always good stuff is 1:07:37.440 --> 1:07:40.160 always always timely stuff. And if you're looking and maybe 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:42.320 the light went off over your head, going you know what, 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:45.200 She's right, I'm assuming I'll have this job forever or 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:47.960 they love me right, Well, what happens? How do I pivot's? 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:49.840 What's good? She's the one to talk to. She and 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:52.120 her team ready to go for you. It's the Balki Group, 1:07:52.200 --> 1:07:55.120 b a uk E, the Balki Group, dot Com, premier 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:58.000 career coach, consultant, et cetera. Here instance that Julie will 1:07:58.040 --> 1:07:59.960 talk next Wednesday. Have a great day. Good heavy back 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:04.480 here you will be will let's do a quick time out. 1:08:04.520 --> 1:08:06.320 We'll get news in the picture and then we'll chat 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:10.240 with the chair that I said, the chairperson for the 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:14.800 Committee for Infrastructure the City Cincinnati. It's Climate Environment infratructure. 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.240 She is councilmember Mika Owens. We'll be in to talk 1:08:17.280 --> 1:08:20.120 about owed out the Brent Spence Bridge. It's rolling as 1:08:20.160 --> 1:08:21.600 a matter of fact, they're doing site work as we 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:25.680 speak for the Brench Spence Bridge corridor and only by 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:27.759 the way, they got about sixty percent of the bridge 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:30.479 complete as far as the design goes, Well, what's going 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:33.000 to go to the other forty percent, what to expect 1:08:33.360 --> 1:08:35.760 once they start digging, and what that looks like for 1:08:35.880 --> 1:08:38.640 traffic and congestion on the city streets, which only what 1:08:38.800 --> 1:08:40.840 now almost a year ago, we had the big mac 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:43.719 Bridge closure which led to traffic gridlock. Are we expecting 1:08:43.800 --> 1:08:45.360 more of the same downtown? 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:46.400 What to make of it? 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:49.599 Mika's next on The Scott's Loan Show seven hundred WWD Cincinnati. 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:53.320 You don't want to be an American Scott's. 1:08:52.960 --> 1:08:55.559 Loan Back at the Big One seven hundred WLW. Yesterday, 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:58.360 O doocs sitting down in front of Cincinnati City Council 1:08:58.400 --> 1:09:00.880 getting grilled on the three point only six billion I 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:04.080 said billion of the beat Brent Spence Bridge and Brent 1:09:04.160 --> 1:09:06.519 Spence Bridge Quarter project. We're going to kick this thing 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:09.240 off early next year. That kind of adjusted the timeline somewhat. 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:13.240 Mika Owens is here, Council member Mika Owens who sits 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:16.080 on the Climate, Environment and Infrastructure Committee, answering all the 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:18.360 tough questions. Mika, welcome back. How's life? How are you? 1:09:19.920 --> 1:09:23.120 Life is great? Thank you Bat for having me. And 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:27.600 it's always exciting to talk about big infrastructure projects that 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:31.960 are going to improve our region and so odak coming 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:35.000 to by the way, I chair the Climate, Environment and 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:38.520 Infrastructure Committee, but it was great to have them yesterday, 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:41.920 and I think it was a good conversation. Yes, we 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:44.840 did ask some good questions, and so I think people 1:09:44.880 --> 1:09:47.599 will be proud, you know, a decade from now when 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:49.679 we look at this marvel of a bridge. 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:52.200 Oh hell, it's a long time coming. I mean when 1:09:52.280 --> 1:09:54.760 we started complaining about I think how bad the Brent 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:58.600 Spence Bridge was before you were born, you know what 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:00.479 I mean. It's like it's been go going on for 1:10:00.560 --> 1:10:03.360 a long long time and it's a line overdue. So 1:10:03.880 --> 1:10:06.920 about sixty percent of the design is complete. So what's 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:08.479 up in the air about that other forty percent? 1:10:08.520 --> 1:10:08.680 You know? 1:10:09.800 --> 1:10:12.080 Yeah, So the process in which they are using to 1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:15.320 design this bridge is called a design built process, and 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:19.040 so it allows for iteration along the way. It's really 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:22.360 a very thoughtful and methodical way of getting to the 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:26.200 best products. And so you know, we'll continue to get 1:10:26.240 --> 1:10:30.519 to the one hundred percent soon, but this fall we're 1:10:30.560 --> 1:10:34.040 planning to have sixty percent of it complete. I will 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:37.000 also say that, yes, thank you to you know, the 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:41.640 Biden administration, this current administration with making sure that we 1:10:41.760 --> 1:10:44.680 are continuing to move this project forward. I mean, this 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:48.920 is truly an example of what collaboration amongst government looks like. 1:10:49.320 --> 1:10:52.719 No matter what the party affiliation is, this certainly couldn't 1:10:52.760 --> 1:10:57.000 happen without the federal government, both administrations, the current and 1:10:57.080 --> 1:11:00.880 the previous, the state government and so Governor the Wine 1:11:00.920 --> 1:11:03.639 has been a thoughtful partner in this and of course 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:07.519 as a local decision maker and with ODACS. 1:11:08.120 --> 1:11:09.640 Yeah, and to bring you up to speed on this 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.479 as you listen with the Burnt Spence Bridge project, is 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:15.479 we mentioned the three point six billion dollar total cost, 1:11:15.800 --> 1:11:19.160 which includes substantial money from the city to count Eyone 1:11:19.200 --> 1:11:21.840 else's we're gonna get a companion bridge that's west of 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:24.240 the existing Brunt Spence Bridge. So let's take the bridge now, 1:11:24.320 --> 1:11:27.000 the Brunt Spence Bridge that we know and hate, and 1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:29.000 they will take that from four lanes down to three, 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:31.960 so you'll actually have emergency lane and break down lane 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:34.320 because we've seen some while people die as a result 1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:37.880 of not having that. In this whole project's going to 1:11:37.920 --> 1:11:40.560 stretch about eight miles from the Western Hills Viaduct to 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:44.080 Dixie Highway in northern Kentucky and take a tremendous amount 1:11:44.120 --> 1:11:45.640 of work to get done. It's gonna take years and 1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:49.200 years and years. And that is the bird's eye view 1:11:49.240 --> 1:11:51.800 of this project here and reshaping what that quarter looks 1:11:51.880 --> 1:11:54.479 like from seventy five down the western hills, so through 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:58.120 the viaduct, and of course a viaduct is seeing a 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:01.920 redo as well too. It's interesting I heard some of 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:05.400 the conversation yesterday Mika about how they're going to try 1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:08.200 to limit the impact on drivers and engage barges and 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:09.760 bringing material in, which is a great idea. 1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:15.439 Certainly, certainly, you know, I think the thoughtfulness around are 1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:19.559 not only the design, but also the supply in which 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:22.800 we will have. You know, this where the still comes from. 1:12:23.120 --> 1:12:26.240 So these are all going to be good, good questions 1:12:26.320 --> 1:12:29.080 that will have answers to I think in the beginning 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:32.920 of twenty twenty six, if not very late in this year, 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:37.879 but certainly thinking about you know, traffic flow and impact 1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:42.560 to drivers. You know, we're hearing the concerns around environmental 1:12:42.680 --> 1:12:46.280 impact and certainly, you know, if can you be thoughtful 1:12:46.360 --> 1:12:48.639 about those things. But at the end of the day, 1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:52.720 moving people is better than being idle, and certainly, as 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:56.320 this bridge continues to get built and expanded lanes on 1:12:56.400 --> 1:13:01.080 the huge bridge, you know it'll help people loose quicker, 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:03.960 and it'll also be very thoughtful about how people make 1:13:04.040 --> 1:13:08.000 decisions from the bridge to get to downtown or to 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.519 get to seventy one, and so I think it's going 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:14.559 to be a real feat of engineering for sure. 1:13:14.760 --> 1:13:14.920 Yeah. 1:13:14.960 --> 1:13:16.320 I mean we're going to see a lot of cranes 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.800 along the riverfront, that's for sure. And to get this 1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:21.000 thing as quickly as possible. It could be cranes and 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:22.960 barges all over the place, but getting the barges and 1:13:23.000 --> 1:13:24.800 that's a pretty good idea. I wonder what that does 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:28.320 with surface transportation on the Ohio River. But it's not 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:31.080 the first project someone's done of this scale. I guess 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:32.519 in other areas of the country they know how to 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:35.040 do this and navigate this. She's Mika Owen's council member, 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.080 chair of Climate, Environment and Infrastructure, and yesterday met with 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.960 ODT regarding the Brent Spence Bridge projects, which is set 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.719 to kick off early next year. So in the cold 1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:47.800 winter months they'll get busy. Getting busy one of the 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:49.720 things one of the things we heard too, Mika. And 1:13:49.800 --> 1:13:52.280 because also this is an addition to infrastructure, it's also 1:13:52.320 --> 1:13:54.920 climate environment. You heard from people who showed up community 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:59.439 input that we're concerned about I don't know, opposition from 1:13:59.680 --> 1:14:02.320 from an environmental groups and transit advocate. They worry about 1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:04.840 you increased traffic and air pollution, and this is going 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:07.920 to disproportionately affect black and brown residents in the West 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:11.360 End in Queens Gaden. We can't do this. To me, 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.320 that's not really a reason to stop the project. It 1:14:14.400 --> 1:14:16.479 seems to me, if you're stuck on the Brent spinch Bridge, 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.200 as people often are in the morning and afternoon commute 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:21.519 several days a week, if not every day during the week, 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:23.160 don't we have a hell of a lot of pollution 1:14:23.280 --> 1:14:25.120 from the cars and trucks that are sitting there idly. 1:14:26.680 --> 1:14:30.679 That is true, and so which is why moving people 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:35.280 significantly faster and more efficiently it's going to be so important. 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:39.640 But you know, we don't want to, you know, just 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:43.880 throw away the concerns of people who know the climate 1:14:43.960 --> 1:14:46.880 work that we're doing in Cincinnati. And so I think 1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:49.160 at the end of the day, this has been a 1:14:49.200 --> 1:14:53.200 thoughtful partnership between the federal government, state and here we 1:14:53.280 --> 1:14:57.160 are in Cincinnati, and if there were any major concerns 1:14:57.200 --> 1:15:04.080 about environment polution, I believe and thee would, if they 1:15:04.160 --> 1:15:08.000 believe an environmental impact statement was necessary, would definitely be 1:15:08.120 --> 1:15:11.400 working on that. So we'll continue to have thoughtful conversations 1:15:11.439 --> 1:15:14.519 but I do want to talk about the job impact 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:15.919 of this process. 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:18.080 Please do, because I think that is that was gonna dovetail. 1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:19.760 I was going to ask, is okay, we're concerned about 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:22.280 black and brown populations and air pollution which we have. 1:15:22.360 --> 1:15:24.519 If you're sitting on the bridge now and not doing 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:26.519 anything makes it worse, not better. This is at least 1:15:26.560 --> 1:15:29.360 the pollution during construction will be temporary for a long 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:32.200 term fix. But one of the concerns. And as the 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.439 economy gets worse and worse, and money becomes scarcer and scarcer, 1:15:35.479 --> 1:15:38.200 and inflation goes up, and you know, jobs are strong. 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:41.200 It's not good right now. It's not awful, but it's 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:43.160 not good and it's not trending in the right direction 1:15:43.560 --> 1:15:45.519 when it comes to employment. And like the fact, the 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:48.400 matter is, people need jobs. And I've been a long 1:15:48.479 --> 1:15:51.559 time advocate for the construction community. We have jobs out 1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:54.000 there that will change your life, will change the trajectory 1:15:54.000 --> 1:15:57.519 of your family. It addresses generational poverty. And all you 1:15:57.600 --> 1:15:59.120 have to do is show up. They'll pay for you 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:01.720 to learn, they'll say for your tools. They'll get you there, 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:04.599 they'll get you home. You can make a great life 1:16:04.760 --> 1:16:07.760 by working in the construction trades, and there's countless jobs 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:12.120 available on this particular bridge in your backyard. I don't 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:14.479 feel like enough is said about workforce development here. 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:17.600 I know, I know, this is what This is the 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:21.040 most exciting aspect of this project. First of all, we 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:24.880 have to recognize that almost a billion dollars worth of 1:16:25.000 --> 1:16:28.800 freight comes across the Bridgetent Bridge every single day from 1:16:28.880 --> 1:16:33.000 Miami to the Canadian border. We also have to recognize 1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:36.800 CBG is one of the largest cargo airports in North America. 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:39.840 It's the seventh largest, and it's the twentieth largest in 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:44.000 the world. And that connectivity just based on the moving 1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:45.639 of goods is so critical. 1:16:46.120 --> 1:16:47.600 So this bridge, this. 1:16:47.840 --> 1:16:52.920 Project is going to require six million work hours, seven 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:56.559 hundred of folks that will need to be the boots 1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:59.960 on the ground using their hands to construct this bridge, 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:04.880 sixty more than sixty sub contractor packages. And so yes, 1:17:05.040 --> 1:17:08.680 the workforce development implication is so real. And so the 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:13.200 investments that we made are are local labor unions with 1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:17.639 the urban leagues creating that building our futures program, helping 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:21.559 people move into apprenticeship and really get great jobs after 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:25.360 graduating from that. We're talking about living wage jobs, you know, 1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:28.600 Soviet six dollars an hour, and so there has to 1:17:28.680 --> 1:17:33.440 be a great movement of migrating people into this workforce infrastructure. 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:36.320 Because when we also think about and you made great 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:40.000 points around you know, economics and people earning money and 1:17:40.080 --> 1:17:42.280 having money in their pocket to pay for the food 1:17:42.479 --> 1:17:45.360 on the people and a roof over their heads. You know, 1:17:45.680 --> 1:17:48.559 moving young people in these forces of professions is going 1:17:48.640 --> 1:17:52.080 to be so key for not only Cincinnati but this region. 1:17:52.160 --> 1:17:54.679 And when we think about the jobs of the future, 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:58.599 some of which might might be more technology driven. When 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:02.080 we think about AI, it's working with your hands that 1:18:02.320 --> 1:18:06.080 will always be valuable. And so I'm really excited about 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:10.040 the opportunities that we can create for people and young 1:18:10.160 --> 1:18:12.799 people with justice projects alone. 1:18:12.960 --> 1:18:15.439 And there are countless jobs available. That's part of the problem. 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:17.559 It's not like it's going away and demand. Everyone talks 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:20.120 about there's no good jobs and why do we have crime? Well, 1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:21.920 I can't when I'm going to work in fast food 1:18:21.960 --> 1:18:23.240 and not make any money and I can go on 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:26.160 the street and hustle, and I know it's not good, 1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:28.559 but it's something we have. These we need to push 1:18:28.640 --> 1:18:30.400 more people into these things. And it's got to be. 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:33.120 We got to be more vocal about demanding that Hey, listen, 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:35.160 we've got a job. We've got a career for over here. 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:38.360 It's hard work. It's not like it was, you know, 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:40.519 one hundred years ago, where you're sitting on top of 1:18:40.600 --> 1:18:42.920 a I don't know, a beam that's being swung by 1:18:42.960 --> 1:18:45.479 a crane, eating your lunch like they did during the depression. 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:52.280 It's much safer now we have, right, we have oceans. Yeah, 1:18:52.840 --> 1:18:54.800 you're talking making like forty bucks an hour. I mean 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:57.160 you're going to be making six figures easy with overtime. 1:18:57.240 --> 1:18:58.040 That's life changing. 1:18:58.120 --> 1:18:58.360 That that. 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:01.000 You know, we talk about generation poverty all the time, 1:19:01.080 --> 1:19:03.679 meek in Cincinnati, in the community, in black and brown community. 1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:05.320 This addresses that. 1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:09.240 This certainly does. And I will think that, you know, 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.200 this is one of the things I get most excited 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:15.439 about what you think about. Excuse me being back into 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:20.519 city Hall and so developing those pipelines and working with 1:19:20.680 --> 1:19:27.880 partners like cps, like nonprofit philanthropy, our business community, and 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:30.600 so many others to make sure our young people have 1:19:30.920 --> 1:19:34.040 you know, really opportunity and hope. At the end of 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:36.240 the day, I will tell you this too. You know, 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.120 green jobs are also a part of that which the 1:19:39.280 --> 1:19:42.600 Chamber of Commerce along with the City of Cincinnati commissioned 1:19:42.640 --> 1:19:46.800 a green workforce analysis, and in that analysis, there's the 1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:51.000 opportunity to create up to forty four thousand jobs, many 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:53.880 of which are union jobs. When we think about electricians 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:56.760 and you know, solling eighth tracks and solar panels and 1:19:56.840 --> 1:19:59.800 all of those pieces, but that hasn't a potential of 1:19:59.840 --> 1:20:03.200 an eleven billion dollar economic impact to the region. So 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:06.640 you think about that coupled with the jobs at this infrastructure, 1:20:06.920 --> 1:20:11.439 this generational infrastructure project's going to bring. Workforce has to 1:20:11.520 --> 1:20:13.160 be at the top of the list for all of 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:16.719 us over the next really five ten years. 1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:21.400 She's Mika Owens and she is a chair as a 1:20:21.800 --> 1:20:26.960 city council person of the committee that's heading up infrastructure 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:30.599 in Cincinnati. Met with O Dot yesterday and what's happening 1:20:30.720 --> 1:20:32.800 is we're moving forward in the Brent Spence Bridge set 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:35.560 to begin construction early part of next year. Although I 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:37.639 will say probably a lot of these site works being 1:20:37.680 --> 1:20:38.160 done right. 1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:42.759 Now, correct, Yeah, that's correct, So all of the small 1:20:42.840 --> 1:20:46.880 pieces that have to significant, but the pipes running the ground, 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:50.439 all of those pieces that have to be set right 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:52.800 now in order to actually get to the building of 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:56.599 what we all know as a bridge. So the work 1:20:56.720 --> 1:21:01.360 is happening. We're really grateful that after decades of trying 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:04.040 to get this first accomplished, that we're at this moment 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:06.040 and it took a lot of works from a lot 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:10.479 of people. Are of there's this community again government, and 1:21:10.560 --> 1:21:13.200 we're just happy that on both sides of the river, 1:21:13.680 --> 1:21:16.880 you know, people working cooarly to ensure that this is 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:20.519 a really great project. And I also want to recognize that, 1:21:20.680 --> 1:21:23.120 you know, there are some future implications in terms of 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:27.600 greater connectivity back to the West End, back to what 1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:31.200 we've known as Queenstate, but originally the West End when 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:34.400 we think about the Fifth Street expansion and so those 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:38.320 are things that are being built out right now and 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:41.559 being a part of the design and conversation right now, 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.639 so that when we get to a moment of being 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:47.360 able to extend, you know, those things can happen. So 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:49.559 we're thinking about the future even right now. 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:54.000 Is this a deal where it sounds like most people 1:21:54.040 --> 1:21:55.920 go while you just canned it over to Oda. Oda 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:59.080 takes care all the stuff work with Kentucky Transportation Cabinet. 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:02.080 But Oda's going to how much oversight does the City 1:22:02.080 --> 1:22:05.240 of Cincinnati. Where's the accountability I guess, and how close 1:22:05.320 --> 1:22:07.639 tabs Nika Owens do you keep on what the project 1:22:07.760 --> 1:22:09.439 is overall from the Cincinnati perspective. 1:22:10.400 --> 1:22:12.880 Yeah, well, obviously this is uh, this is right at 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:16.439 our heart of our city, and so certainly we want 1:22:16.520 --> 1:22:18.840 to make sure that we are continuing to be accountable 1:22:19.320 --> 1:22:24.040 results here. Our Department of Transportation Engineering has been uh 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:27.080 with you know, working with ODAC every step of the way, 1:22:27.439 --> 1:22:29.680 and certainly this is not the first time that you know, 1:22:30.120 --> 1:22:34.480 the city and state come together to work on projects, 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:37.360 and so those relationships are there. I also want to 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:40.120 recognize you know, Doublin or the line, you know, being 1:22:40.439 --> 1:22:44.479 a very a great partner, recognizing that at the local 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:48.200 level there are some decisions that impact us directly, and 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:52.640 so being right at the table to make sure that 1:22:52.920 --> 1:22:55.560 we are again getting all of the great benefits that 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:58.759 this bridge will will bring to our city. So for example, 1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:02.200 you know, we've got to into their district that's coming online, 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:05.120 and so when people get off and accit and go 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:09.000 through a downtown Cincinnati, I mean, it is truly going 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:11.639 to be a spectacle. And so that's what we want 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:14.000 we want people to be able to not just go 1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:17.800 over the overpass for those that are maybe carrying of 1:23:17.880 --> 1:23:20.560 course certainly, but we want folks to be able to 1:23:20.640 --> 1:23:23.439 stop downtown enjoy, We want folks to be able to 1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:25.519 get to seventy one, want folks to be able to 1:23:25.600 --> 1:23:27.680 get to the West End. 1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:29.040 That is a huge. 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:32.439 Opportunity in terms of what we might reimagine together there. 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:35.320 So ultimately, yes, we want to be at the table 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:38.479 and we want to make the decisions necessary and we're 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:41.280 possible to make sure one this bridge is completed in 1:23:41.360 --> 1:23:45.240 a timely manner and then also you know, making sure 1:23:45.280 --> 1:23:49.000 that we're meeting the budget of this as well go 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:50.759 out of our control. 1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:53.479 Yeah, yeah, I guess we'll be good partners, Mika. 1:23:53.600 --> 1:23:55.720 But one of the other things the fact that year ago, 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:58.000 almost a year ago, we had the bridge fire, the 1:23:58.040 --> 1:24:00.720 Big Mac Bridge, remember, a head shut down for a 1:24:00.760 --> 1:24:03.080 period of time because of the fire underneath it. And 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:06.160 the end result is it was on going to mitigated 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:09.760 traffic disaster on the street surface streets of Cincinnati because 1:24:09.760 --> 1:24:12.080 there's no preparation for something like that, but there was 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:14.880 no reaction, There was no emergency plan in place to 1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:17.000 deal with something with one of the major bridges is 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:19.280 shut down, and traffic in some areas went from a 1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:23.200 twenty or thirty minute commute to over two hours. Tempers 1:24:23.240 --> 1:24:26.240 were flying. Fortunately, no bad things really really happen other 1:24:26.280 --> 1:24:29.280 than traffic delays. But I look at that and go, Okay, well, 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:32.680 what's the plan now for surface streets being overwhelmed with 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:35.400 traffic for the multi year build, for the decade long 1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:36.759 build that's the brent S Benz Bridge. 1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:40.600 Yeah, that's that's a great question, and certainly that'll be 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:43.439 something that we can continue to follow up on. I 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:47.040 do know that there are you know, professional engineers who 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:49.439 this is not the first time building a bridge and 1:24:49.720 --> 1:24:54.840 assessing traffic and you know, traffic patterns and analyzing those things, 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:57.479 and so that's also a part of what's going into 1:24:58.360 --> 1:25:01.120 the design process. So by the end of this year, 1:25:01.240 --> 1:25:03.479 beginning of next year, we'll have more ODAT, will have 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:07.320 more information around these kind of traffic patterns and the 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:10.799 way that the Playweight Belly Bailey Bridge might be impacted. 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:12.880 But ultimately, at the end of the day, you know, 1:25:13.000 --> 1:25:17.040 this is about moving people very smoothly, not idle, not 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:20.400 idling sitting on sitting on a Bridge waiting to go 1:25:20.640 --> 1:25:23.120 places they certainly we want to make sure we're moving 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:27.240 people at the end of the day, and so yeah, 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:29.640 I look forward to the updates that we'll continue to 1:25:29.800 --> 1:25:33.160 have with Odot in my committee. 1:25:33.320 --> 1:25:35.120 All right, I appreciate. I got to get going. She 1:25:35.479 --> 1:25:38.559 is Mika Owens, joining the show this morning. Council member 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:42.600 Owens chairs the Climate, Environment and Infrastructure Committee and the 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:46.040 Brent Spence Bridge Quarter project as a go. They're doing 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:47.560 a little bit of sight work right now, but the 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:50.200 big stuff you'll notice will start happening early part QQ 1:25:50.560 --> 1:25:54.559 Q one, early Q one, like January February of next year. Mik, 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:56.400 all the best, thanks for coming on the show. Appreciate you. 1:25:56.880 --> 1:25:58.840 Thanks Scott, appreciate it. Take care. 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:00.720 We'll talk again soon. I've got to get a news 1:26:00.840 --> 1:26:03.559 update in because we've got some pressing developing issues going 1:26:03.600 --> 1:26:05.320 on right now. We'll find out the very latest there. 1:26:05.320 --> 1:26:07.200 And of course one of the big developing issues we 1:26:07.240 --> 1:26:09.360 didn't foresee coming was the fact that we go from 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:13.439 Joe A to Joe B, from Joe Burrow to Joe 1:26:13.560 --> 1:26:16.599 Flacco with a guy named Jake Browning Sandwich somewhere in between. 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:19.080 If you're any good we still be talking about him. Nonetheless, 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:21.960 what can we expect this weekend with the Green Bay 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:25.559 Packers and Joe Flacco getting I guess he's in town. 1:26:25.600 --> 1:26:29.200 He's gonna start practicing today today being Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:32.040 Say you don't have many times to practice, Sarah, at 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:53.160 least a snort report next seven hundred way George is 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:57.439 there because the pig is playing. The people demand the 1:26:57.520 --> 1:26:59.880 snort report on seven hundred W W share at least 1:26:59.880 --> 1:27:02.880 from two seven e D in the morning show. Of course, 1:27:03.640 --> 1:27:07.679 in in arena talent, and of course there's no bigger 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:12.000 sports fan in Cincinnati than once Sarah Elease and it's snorts. 1:27:11.640 --> 1:27:14.479 Of all sorts of sh yeah, you know, it's it's 1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:18.120 a little challenging right now. I was at the Bengals 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:20.599 Lions game with my dad over the weekend when I'm 1:27:20.640 --> 1:27:22.680 surrounded by blue and I'm like, you know what all 1:27:22.760 --> 1:27:25.640 you can do from this point is this kind of 1:27:25.800 --> 1:27:29.400 laugh to keep from crying. And of course the Bengals say, 1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:34.479 hold my beer because we are calling the Browns for help. 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:40.080 That's unreal. A franchise that has destroyed quarterbacks since the 1:27:40.200 --> 1:27:43.560 nineteen nineties, we go to them for our next quarterback 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:46.240 in forty year old Joe Flacco. She is such a 1:27:46.360 --> 1:27:48.640 devoted Bengals fan that Nottle does she drink in the 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:51.880 kool aid? Sarah Elise has a day off today because 1:27:51.920 --> 1:27:53.800 she's going to cook sporting goods to get a Joe 1:27:53.880 --> 1:27:56.040 Flacco Bengals jersey to be the one in person in 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:58.519 the stadium one to Joe Flacco Bengals jersey. 1:27:59.479 --> 1:28:02.240 That's right morning. The Bengals had tweeted out hot off 1:28:02.360 --> 1:28:06.000 the press and they were announcing that Joe Flacco will 1:28:06.040 --> 1:28:12.960 wear number sixteen, sixteen, your Cincinnati Bengals sixteen. Yeah, and 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:16.439 as someone who's close to forty. Look, I'm not forty yet, 1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:19.280 but I just know that when you are twenty eight, 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:22.519 you know, like one Joe Burrow versus almost forty, Well, 1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:25.360 you know, Joe being actually forty. You got to be 1:28:25.479 --> 1:28:28.479 careful with this guy, Like the old line has come 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:31.400 to be on high alert. Now. You can't let this 1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.920 forty year old man bounce around the field like that. 1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:37.160 I mean, that's elder abuse, loony. 1:28:39.000 --> 1:28:41.680 That could be a lawsuit pending. Do you think that 1:28:41.760 --> 1:28:43.640 all of a sudden, the offensive line stair is going 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:46.120 to go Okay, you know what, Now we're inspired to 1:28:46.240 --> 1:28:49.080 protect the forty year old statue that is Joe Flacco. 1:28:49.160 --> 1:28:52.679 I love that it and go. The worst run game 1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:55.120 in the National Football League belong to the Bengals. I 1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.519 can't open holes for Chase Brown can't get more than 1:28:57.720 --> 1:29:02.160 inches when you need yards. And now you're tasking with 1:29:02.280 --> 1:29:04.559 not only creating a run game that's been not existed, 1:29:04.600 --> 1:29:08.320 but now creating, uh, creating run holes for the run game, 1:29:08.360 --> 1:29:11.960 but also protecting the leakage that's con prevent Joe Flacco 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:15.360 but from becoming Joe Burrow. My fear is this fort 1:29:15.400 --> 1:29:18.040 of your Flacco gets in there and against By the way, 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:20.080 I don't know you about this, but the pass rush 1:29:20.160 --> 1:29:22.519 of the Green Bay Packers with Micah Parsons is pretty 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:25.519 damn good, best in the NFL. If they do, if 1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.240 he does what he's done in the past, I'm wondering 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:30.679 how soon we're going to see Jake Browning return. 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:33.920 Oh, let's not. We're not going to go back us 1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:34.240 like that. 1:29:34.320 --> 1:29:35.600 I feel like possibility it. 1:29:35.680 --> 1:29:38.640 Has it has to get only better from here. Unfortunately, 1:29:38.840 --> 1:29:41.400 Jake just couldn't get it done. And again you de 1:29:41.600 --> 1:29:45.160 for time. Turning to the Browns for a situation like this. 1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:47.559 So I don't know what we're going to see this weekend, 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:50.400 but it does give me hope that the last time 1:29:51.080 --> 1:29:53.960 that Joe Flacco played the Packers was actually not that 1:29:54.160 --> 1:29:57.360 long ago, back on September twenty first with the ran 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.559 he won and he managed to squeeze out a win 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:04.560 thirteen to ten. So are they still fourteen and a 1:30:04.640 --> 1:30:07.759 half point favorites this weekend? That being the Packers? 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:10.320 Yes with Joe, how are we looking? 1:30:11.000 --> 1:30:12.559 Yes? Yes? 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:16.880 What does Vegas say? Vegas says Bengals lose. That's what 1:30:17.040 --> 1:30:17.639 Vegas says. 1:30:19.200 --> 1:30:19.439 You know what. 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:21.719 I saw this stat the other day. Not to fast 1:30:21.760 --> 1:30:23.600 forward too much because I know we're just focused on 1:30:23.720 --> 1:30:25.840 one game at a time, but it said when the 1:30:25.880 --> 1:30:30.639 Bengals host the Steelers next week, the combined QB age 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:35.080 is going to be eighty one years old. Of course, 1:30:35.160 --> 1:30:39.520 because they've got Aaron Rodgers. Just the battle of the elderly. 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:42.920 I mean, what a time to be a fan team. Wow, 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:46.120 what a roller coaster. But this is where you really 1:30:46.240 --> 1:30:50.040 have to capitalize in the AFC. I mean, the Ravens 1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:53.000 aren't getting it done, the brown stuck as always, and 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:55.840 really the Steelers aren't impressive, so it's like, all right, 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:58.040 Joe Flacco to the rescue. 1:30:57.960 --> 1:31:02.120 Eight or Nina Funny. Nine wins may get it done, Sarah. 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:05.880 Which is wild to say because this used to be 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:08.120 the division to look out for and now we're just 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:11.200 we're looking on at this division like, oh, I'm kind 1:31:11.240 --> 1:31:12.200 of concerned here. 1:31:12.400 --> 1:31:14.200 The concern, though, is you still need a six or 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:16.040 seven wins at this point to get to where you 1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:18.600 need to be. If that's the case, I can do that. 1:31:19.000 --> 1:31:21.680 I don't know, We'll see. I'll give I'll give the 1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:23.640 team credit, give the franchise credit. They went out and 1:31:23.720 --> 1:31:26.400 they did something right. They went out and got something, 1:31:26.439 --> 1:31:27.160 and I felt. 1:31:26.960 --> 1:31:31.040 Like such the Bengals mentality though, the Bengals mentality, it's like, 1:31:31.120 --> 1:31:34.360 well they did is this the right something? 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:34.720 Well? 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:37.120 What other options do you have? I mean, you can stay, 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:39.519 you know what, Jake Brown and Canning you know clearly 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:42.120 there's pressure on Zach Taylor. Of course, there's no pressure 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:45.280 on Duke Tobin or or the or the family. No 1:31:45.360 --> 1:31:48.760 pressure there. Everything's fine, no, not ever. But to me, 1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:51.960 it's like I when when this broke yesterday afternoon, and 1:31:52.040 --> 1:31:53.960 it's how blow up on my phone. It struck me 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:55.640 as Joe fla forty I know it is forty year 1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:58.240 old Joe Flacco, who, by the way, in Cleveland and 1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:00.280 four starts as one and three with the fifth eight 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:03.759 percent completion rate, two touchdowns and six interceptions. On paper, 1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:06.880 he doesn't seem much different than Jake Browning. And this 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:10.120 to me felt like this is the best chance of 1:32:10.240 --> 1:32:12.640 all the worst options available for what it is. It's 1:32:12.720 --> 1:32:16.000 It's like, Sarah, this is like a closing time hookup, 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:18.000 is what it is. You're a dude. You're not the 1:32:18.080 --> 1:32:21.000 best pick of the litter. You know, you have questionable hygiene. 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:24.720 You're not a very good person. She seems I don't know. 1:32:25.040 --> 1:32:27.080 Her friend says she's got a great personnel, she's a 1:32:27.200 --> 1:32:31.799 nice person. I don't. I don't know. We're both desperate. 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.000 Let's just hook up. That's what this is. It's a 1:32:34.120 --> 1:32:35.839 it's a it's a closing time hookup. 1:32:36.800 --> 1:32:39.720 If this makes you feel better, Joe Flacco is the 1:32:40.040 --> 1:32:45.639 only Super Bowl winning QB that the Bengals have ever had. 1:32:48.640 --> 1:32:51.000 Did we and when you phrase it that way, did 1:32:51.120 --> 1:32:51.639 we swipe? 1:32:51.760 --> 1:32:52.040 Laughter? 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:52.720 Swipe? What? 1:32:53.000 --> 1:32:53.160 Right? 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:54.160 On quarterback Tinder? 1:32:56.240 --> 1:32:58.400 I don't know, because I've never been on Tinder to 1:32:58.479 --> 1:32:59.040 know which one. 1:32:59.160 --> 1:33:02.280 You know which one it is? Either that, I don't 1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:04.160 know if it's a last swipe right, swipe up down. 1:33:04.160 --> 1:33:05.439 I'm not sure what's going on here. 1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:08.519 I have no idea old for this, just like Jill FLACKO, 1:33:10.000 --> 1:33:12.760 this is the time of the elderly. But of course, yeah, 1:33:12.840 --> 1:33:15.360 he got it done with the Ravens not even ten 1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:18.519 years ago. But can you do it with the Bengals. 1:33:18.560 --> 1:33:21.559 We'll see, But no way, let me interrupt. I saw 1:33:21.640 --> 1:33:23.639 this this morning. Okay, do you know since his last 1:33:23.680 --> 1:33:25.880 full season in twenty seventeen what his record is? 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:28.160 Oh, I'm curious. 1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:30.960 Go ahead, fourteen and twenty six. 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:34.479 Welcome to the Bengals. 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:36.800 You'll fit right in, Sit right in, You'll fit right in. 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:40.320 You're doing great. But yeah, Zach Taylor had released a 1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:43.679 statement yesterday, very long, so i'll just sort of spark 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:46.599 noted here he goes, Yeah, joll Flackow has the history 1:33:46.640 --> 1:33:50.000 of winning. He is a leader, a gifted pastor, and 1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:51.960 we're excited to have him on the team. 1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:55.720 Very well, I want him to say what is he 1:33:55.840 --> 1:33:56.639 supposed to say? 1:33:57.960 --> 1:34:00.840 He fear every time I read exact quote, I'm like 1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:04.040 I could have probably said this in my head and 1:34:04.200 --> 1:34:06.400 told you that this is what Doc Taylor said. It's 1:34:06.560 --> 1:34:10.120 very predictable at this And if Zach Taylor solve the job, 1:34:10.280 --> 1:34:12.880 if they can't beat now, if they can't, okay, say 1:34:13.200 --> 1:34:15.160 for example, they go on and they beat the Packers 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:18.000 this weekend, and okay, and then and then they go 1:34:18.080 --> 1:34:19.920 ahead and they beat the Steelers. Does that mean that 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:22.080 all of a sudden, back Taylor's job should be safe 1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:28.479 and we're back on teams. Dak Taylor again to me, 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:29.880 I don't just spit out my coffee. 1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:33.080 Well, let's hear the winning. Winning solves a lot of problems. 1:34:33.120 --> 1:34:34.680 You know when Zach took them to the Super Bowl? 1:34:34.840 --> 1:34:35.240 Really good? 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:36.439 Right? 1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:38.640 I Mean, here's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:41.080 my lifetime, with all they hate and negativity towards this 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:43.599 team for what they have not done and what they 1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:47.840 continue to not do. Mike Brown himself was celebrated in 1:34:48.000 --> 1:34:51.080 Washington Park by cheering crowds when they returned from losing 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:51.720 the Super Bowl. 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:57.599 Use I was there, and it was a very bitter 1:34:57.760 --> 1:35:03.400 sweet celebration, like this is very Cincinnati of us. What 1:35:03.560 --> 1:35:04.240 are we doing? 1:35:04.680 --> 1:35:06.600 Like we thought we turned the corners like, Okay, they 1:35:06.680 --> 1:35:09.680 woke up. You know, the Blackburn girls are involved and 1:35:10.160 --> 1:35:11.800 things are changing. We've got to ring up, honor. We 1:35:11.840 --> 1:35:14.280 went to the Super Bowl and now all of a sudden, 1:35:14.320 --> 1:35:16.679 it's it's gone completely back to where it was before, 1:35:16.720 --> 1:35:19.320 which makes you think with Parody and the NFL, maybe 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:21.680 the Super Bowl year they just got lucky, Like we 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:23.519 were bad enough that we got one of the best 1:35:23.600 --> 1:35:27.479 quarterbacks in the league. I mean generational talent and Joe Burrow. 1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:30.519 You got Jamar Chase t Higgins was great, but you 1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:32.400 did that because you sucked for so long. You got 1:35:32.439 --> 1:35:36.640 to pick of the letter that does those things. We 1:35:36.720 --> 1:35:39.200 didn't invest in an offensive line. I mean the defense 1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:43.160 right now is mid. So I look at this this 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:45.040 whole package. You go, well, Cleveland at least has a 1:35:45.120 --> 1:35:47.439 really really good defense that's going to turn the ball 1:35:47.520 --> 1:35:49.439 back over to Joe Flacco or in this case, Dyllan 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:52.280 Gabriel more often than the Bengals will. That's also a concern. 1:35:53.320 --> 1:35:56.000 Better are they on the Bengals, which is really wild 1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:58.960 to stay. I mean, I haven't seen really anything good 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:01.439 happening with this team in the past few weeks. It's 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:03.839 really sad, and again when I was there on Sunday 1:36:04.000 --> 1:36:06.240 out numbered by Lions Sance, I saw a lot of 1:36:06.280 --> 1:36:09.599 people wearing those paper bags over their heads, a lot 1:36:09.680 --> 1:36:13.800 of fire Dak Taylor signs. But like you said, if 1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:16.599 they start winning and turning things around, it's really amazing 1:36:16.680 --> 1:36:20.880 what happens and how quick the fans were. You get 1:36:20.880 --> 1:36:23.240 a couple of losses and the paper bags come out. 1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:25.599 I think it's going to look like late November. 1:36:25.760 --> 1:36:27.720 I have no idea what to expect Sunday. I really 1:36:27.720 --> 1:36:29.960 I have no idea. I have not but I'll watch, 1:36:30.000 --> 1:36:30.800 I'll listen right. 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:34.960 Oh, I'm so sad for this. I'm even more excited 1:36:35.000 --> 1:36:38.200 than ever. I'm like Jake Browning, but Joe Flacco, I mean, 1:36:38.240 --> 1:36:40.240 this is someone that this is someone that that you 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:40.960 want to root for. 1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:43.599 You always liked you. You always prefer the older men. 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:50.479 I'm like, Oh, Joe, Okay, this is someone. 1:36:51.400 --> 1:36:52.000 What's his fit? 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:52.200 Like? 1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:53.040 He's a zaddie. 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:57.920 I'm duned in well, speaking of I wonder what he 1:36:57.960 --> 1:37:00.920 wore last night and stuff rubies. Yeah, I have an 1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:04.760 inside store. That's a boy. He got into Cincinnati last 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:07.479 night and his first stop was, of course, at Jeff 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:09.680 Ruby's for dinner. I don't know who we went out 1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:12.360 to dinner with, if it were for Steak Browning or 1:37:12.520 --> 1:37:15.559 Jamar Stacey Higgins, whoever, But I just know that that's 1:37:15.560 --> 1:37:17.280 where she was at last night. That's the way to 1:37:17.640 --> 1:37:19.160 get welcomed into the city. 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:20.960 Right, I would think, like, Okay, I'm gonna get in 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.040 and on the way, somebody's picking me up and they've 1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:25.920 got an iPad, and I'm gonna study the entire time 1:37:26.000 --> 1:37:27.680 to like get to Cincinnati. And then I got to 1:37:27.720 --> 1:37:29.639 get in and have team meetings and I got I'm 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:31.840 gonna know, I'm gonna get in. I'm gonna you know 1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:35.680 what I need. I need a baked potato. I need 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:39.120 a ribbi and some lobster mac is what I need 1:37:39.200 --> 1:37:40.240 before anything happened. 1:37:40.360 --> 1:37:42.439 Get the playbook. Yeah, I don't need to. 1:37:42.520 --> 1:37:46.400 I don't need to, Like nothing against Ruby's good. Could 1:37:46.439 --> 1:37:48.360 you just like I don't know, maybe get a sandwich 1:37:48.520 --> 1:37:50.400 and like have it? Kay, you know, have some food 1:37:50.520 --> 1:37:52.360 at the training because you're gonna have to study, like 1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:55.840 starting like cramming for a finals. What this is like, Like, Yeah, 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:57.760 I'm gonna go and have a bottle. I have a 1:37:57.840 --> 1:37:59.360 bottle of wine and some sushi. 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:03.080 There's no way that he was doing any sort of 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:06.559 work last night Ruby's other than working on a damn 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:11.960 But that's where the priorities are right now. And I'm 1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:15.160 also wondering, like, how did he get to Cincinnati. Do 1:38:15.200 --> 1:38:17.120 you think that they just sent a car for him? 1:38:17.240 --> 1:38:20.040 Did he get some sort of like private plane situation? 1:38:20.840 --> 1:38:23.160 This is a pretty quick drive. Did they send an 1:38:23.280 --> 1:38:24.000 uber for him? 1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:24.519 No? 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:27.400 I guess probably Like what is that the Mega bus 1:38:27.520 --> 1:38:29.960 or the Baron's Billions, the Baron's bus or whatever it 1:38:30.000 --> 1:38:32.880 is from Cleveland taking that down sitting in the back. Hey, 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:33.760 they got free Wi Fi. 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:37.360 I mean, we don't have to pay for this guy. 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:43.519 Yeah, send the private jet. We we sent u we 1:38:43.640 --> 1:38:45.000 got Greyhound? 1:38:45.640 --> 1:38:45.960 All right? 1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:49.080 So does give me faith that that Joe Burrow, remember 1:38:49.200 --> 1:38:51.880 that guy? That gives me faith that he will be back, 1:38:52.479 --> 1:38:54.560 maybe sooner than expected. 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:56.800 I think the club is confident that Joe will be 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:58.920 back in December because of the indication of what they 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:00.519 did here, that they made a move, going, hey, if 1:39:00.560 --> 1:39:02.479 we can maybe get a couple of wins out of 1:39:02.560 --> 1:39:05.400 this guy who knows what happens, If it can be 1:39:05.520 --> 1:39:07.920 early December as opposed to late December, then you probably 1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:09.599 don't have a chance, but Sarah Lisa is here. 1:39:10.479 --> 1:39:12.960 Yeah, maybe Joe Flacca will hit for the cycle and 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:14.120 sign with the Steelers. 1:39:15.200 --> 1:39:18.040 He's played for every team in the division except for 1:39:18.120 --> 1:39:21.360 the Steelers. And maybe Aaron Rodgers goes down, we get 1:39:21.400 --> 1:39:24.200 to Burrow back and then at December we see Flacco 1:39:24.360 --> 1:39:25.760 start for the Steelers. What about that? 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:30.400 Oh my gosh, I mean, the possibilities are endless that 1:39:31.000 --> 1:39:34.320 nothing surprises me anymore. Ever, Like when I saw that 1:39:34.640 --> 1:39:36.680 news about Joe Flacca, I laughed and I was like, 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:38.519 you know what, I'm not even surprised like this, of 1:39:38.640 --> 1:39:42.320 course what happened? Pot off the press. Go check out 1:39:42.360 --> 1:39:44.720 the Bengals Twitter. They've got all the latest with all 1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:48.080 your Joe Flacco ish that you could. But you can 1:39:48.160 --> 1:39:51.519 imagine it's all there on the hilarious it is. 1:39:51.640 --> 1:39:53.679 But you know what, I think you got to watch. 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:55.639 You go like, okay, I got to see what happens here. 1:39:56.520 --> 1:39:58.200 Oh yeah, yeah, I will be sat. 1:40:00.520 --> 1:40:00.800 Got it. 1:40:00.880 --> 1:40:03.280 I'll w haw's it because the Reds are no longer playing. 1:40:03.439 --> 1:40:04.760 Don't even get me started. 1:40:04.520 --> 1:40:06.240 On is there any other sports? This is the only 1:40:06.240 --> 1:40:08.880 sports news we have. Sports Lady, I. 1:40:08.880 --> 1:40:11.719 Guess, go Dodgers. If you're going to lose to the Dodgers, 1:40:11.920 --> 1:40:14.880 just go Dodgers all the way. And then FD Cincinnati, 1:40:15.000 --> 1:40:18.439 they're back for their final regular season match. That's going 1:40:18.520 --> 1:40:22.160 down next Saturday, fan Appreciation Night. And then our Cincinnati 1:40:22.200 --> 1:40:24.599 Cyclones are back the exact same night and they've got 1:40:24.640 --> 1:40:28.080 a big fan appreciation you know, first base Off special 1:40:28.200 --> 1:40:32.280 thing going on, so discounted food and beverages and free calendars, 1:40:32.280 --> 1:40:34.840 all kind of. Saturday is where it's got to get 1:40:34.880 --> 1:40:38.120 your hockey and your soccer fixed, because, as you know, 1:40:38.400 --> 1:40:40.639 baseball is done in our city. 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:43.160 We're about done with baseball and the puck drop in 1:40:43.200 --> 1:40:44.920 the NHL. Last night, I was watching a little puk, 1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:46.840 was watching the Penguins and Rangers for a little bit 1:40:46.960 --> 1:40:49.360 going on there. It's good to see hockey back fall 1:40:49.439 --> 1:40:51.880 this year. And I can't wait for Sunday afternoon for 1:40:52.080 --> 1:40:54.400 twenty five to see what happens with the Bengals and 1:40:54.479 --> 1:40:58.080 the Packers, namely Micah Parsons. And right now, talk about 1:40:58.080 --> 1:41:02.040 somebody who's having a stake. He's sitting there rubbing his hands, 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:04.760 going all right, let's get so, let's get some let's 1:41:04.760 --> 1:41:05.400 get something done. 1:41:05.439 --> 1:41:05.599 Here. 1:41:06.000 --> 1:41:09.000 Uh, Sarah le surprises me back Monday morning and the 1:41:09.040 --> 1:41:10.600 Kid Chris show that's shows her off the phone. Now, 1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:12.760 even on vacation, she has to do the snort report. 1:41:12.800 --> 1:41:13.160 I love that. 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:13.680 I love it. 1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:16.880 Sitting here my Bengals pajamas in case anyone wanted to know. 1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:21.879 And no matter what, she's the paper bag waiting this afternoon, 1:41:21.920 --> 1:41:23.600 she'll be down to cook sporting goods to get the 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:26.000 Joe Flacco what number sixteen? 1:41:26.600 --> 1:41:28.240 Number sixteen babies. 1:41:28.760 --> 1:41:31.320 So what you're saying is what you're saying is Joe 1:41:31.400 --> 1:41:34.000 Flacco is a touchdown better than number nine. 1:41:36.000 --> 1:41:38.880 Yes, if you're looking at just the numbers, then yes. 1:41:38.840 --> 1:41:42.360 He's a touchdown better than Burrow. Oh my gosh, talk 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:44.479 to you next week. Thanks again, have a good one, 1:41:44.560 --> 1:41:47.240 Good luck all right? Who try to get dressed today? 1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:49.479 For crying out loud? Would you put some clothes on? 1:41:49.640 --> 1:41:52.839 Be productive for crying out loud? To act like you care? Anyway, 1:41:53.160 --> 1:41:55.519 News on the way just a couple of minutes, and 1:41:55.600 --> 1:41:57.680 then Willie takes over at twelve oh six. Here, I'm 1:41:57.680 --> 1:41:59.600 the home of the best Bengals coverage, I mean, the 1:41:59.720 --> 1:42:02.919 best Spangles coverage. Savanader WWT Cincinnati