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Speaker 1: But it's almost an it's an unfair comparison apart from

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Speaker 1: They talk about defeating our future. There's a quote here

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Speaker 1: Walls turned Minnesota into the fraud capital of the country.

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Speaker 1: As governor, I will make fraud. I will make it

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Speaker 1: He defended his administration's response to the fraud, however, and

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Speaker 1: Then Governor Tim Walls calls for one that's beholden only

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Speaker 1: Representative Dan Wolgelmont said he'll create an anonymous tip line

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Speaker 6: They're stealing from.

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Speaker 2: Most fraud sweeping Minnesota, the ultimate get rich quick schemes.

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Speaker 2: Billions, billions. All that money could have helped so many

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Speaker 2: I think there's more. But how did we get here?

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Speaker 7: I think this is a much bigger issue than just

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Speaker 3: How many times did I call DHS?

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Speaker 2: They didn't do a damn thing. Minnesota taxpayers deserve better.

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Speaker 6: Put in some important controls. You asked us to follow

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Speaker 2: Do you think someone dropped the ball?

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Speaker 1: Digging for answers on where it went, missed warning signs.

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Speaker 1: When I was making the comparisons to the No Kings

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Speaker 1: The Star tribune they had an article this morning talking about.

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Speaker 1: Now they followed that up with a demand calling For

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Speaker 1: unedited interview With Governor Tim walls that was conducted as

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Speaker 1: For Governor Tim, walls a sentence that sounds like it

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Speaker 1: say Addressing tom, specifically this is a critical moment In.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota we cannot keep turning a blind eye to billions

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Speaker 1: your Friend Governor Tim walls at. Times now, AGAIN i

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Speaker 1: Now channel five also sat down With Joe. Thompson he's

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Speaker 1: prosecuting those suspected of defrauding government. Programs here's a little

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Speaker 3: Five the Example i'll give is one million seconds is

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Speaker 3: about eleven days more or, less one billion seconds is

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Speaker 3: much one billion. Is it is an astronomical amount of.

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Speaker 8: Money following the money is a full time job for

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Speaker 8: Federal Prosecutor Joe.

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Speaker 2: Thompson let me posit it here really.

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Speaker 1: Quick so the question That channel five was asking was

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Speaker 2: Combined and AS i.

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Speaker 1: Mentioned, Before Governor Tim walls isn't hiding that we could

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Speaker 1: if not the biggest issue that's going to haunt him

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Speaker 8: And his team at THE Us Attorney's office In, MINNESOTA.

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Speaker 3: I think we've all come to understand the magnitude of

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Speaker 3: the fraud problem here In. Minnesota thompson made headlines this.

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Speaker 8: Summer in this interview with Five Eyewitness news Reporter Jake, holes.

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Speaker 6: He expects the scope of fraudulent use of taxpayer's money

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Speaker 2: Dollars you stand by.

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Speaker 3: That, YEAH i was actually surprised that there was such

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Speaker 2: Comma you weren't really, surprised were?

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Speaker 3: YOU i. WAS i thought that was. Obvious do you ever.

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Speaker 8: Worry about fraudsters being emboldened that maybe they'll just get

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Speaker 6: Down?

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Speaker 3: Sure one of the issues in vherus argue at. Sentencing

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Speaker 3: one of the concerns is if you had the opportunity to,

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Speaker 3: make say ten million, dollars and, hey maybe there's a

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Speaker 3: ten percent chance you get, caught maybe only five percent

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Speaker 3: maybe even ten. Years but it sets your family up for.

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Speaker 3: Generations would you do? IT i suspect there's a line

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Speaker 3: of people outside the courtroom that would take that.

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Speaker 2: Deal he calls it white collar crime on. Steroids it

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Speaker 3: Ponds he seems it goes on for ten or fifteen

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Speaker 3: just two hundred and fifty three hundred and four million

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Speaker 8: Pockets is there a chance the same stuff was going

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Speaker 8: on in many other states and it just hasn't been

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Speaker 2: HERE i don't.

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Speaker 3: Think so you went To, Stanford i'm From.

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Speaker 8: California would you be surprised if they unearthed some level

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Speaker 3: Too i'm sure there are big fraud schemes In, california

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Speaker 3: but you don't see what we see, here which is

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Speaker 8: Fraud is there a danger of becoming too, jaded too

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Speaker 8: cynical to look at every good effort to help the

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Speaker 3: Off, well every TIME i Think i'm too, cynical we

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Speaker 1: Yet, No, unfortunately it's. Complacency it's not. Caring. Now they care,

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Speaker 1: Now i'm Meaning democrats And Governor Tim, walls but they

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Speaker 2: Walls the data point THAT i.

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Speaker 1: Would be interested to note if that indeed is true

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Speaker 1: of What Joe thompson, said that more than likely other

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Speaker 1: Here i'd love to see the data relating to or

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Speaker 1: the root cause of the fraud here In. Minnesota, right

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Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in the fraud conversation and we

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Speaker 1: will turn our attention over to you're right to keep

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Speaker 1: in bare. Arms The Supreme court set On, monday it's

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Speaker 1: going to be considering whether people who regularly smoke marijuana

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Speaker 1: can legally own. Guns the latest firearm case to come

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Speaker 1: before the court since it's twenty twenty two decision expanding gun.

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Speaker 1: Rights we'll talk With rob dor from The Minnesota gun

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Speaker 7: Talk it's really refreshing to see real journalism actually occur

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Speaker 2: Get on the ball and to play catch.

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Speaker 7: Up but thank goodness For Liz collins and other real

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Speaker 7: journalists out there who are putting pressure on these media

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Speaker 2: Ball you, Know i'm just.

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Speaker 7: DONE i can't BELIEVE i did not see this, interview

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Speaker 7: him about the. Fraud but could this, interview this person

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Speaker 7: their bias.

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Speaker 2: Lie, YEAH i.

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Speaker 1: DIDN'T i Understand, sean what you're saying, there and thank

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Speaker 2: When it comes to.

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Speaker 1: provides an individual LIKE Us Attorney Joe thompson the opportunity

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Speaker 1: Saying i'm glad that the media outlets are covering this

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Speaker 1: to be impacting. Campaigns and this is all coming off

442
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Speaker 1: of The Uppercarious state. Documentary and so you see these

443
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Speaker 1: outlets now that are jockeying to be leaders in talking

444
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: about the, fraud but they know that people are interested in,

445
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: it so they're covering stories about. It and as we've

446
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: been acknowledging those individuals that have been paving the way

447
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: on these on these, issues and the same thing rings

448
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Speaker 1: true when it comes to our next guest Of friend

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Speaker 1: of The, Show rob dor and The minnesota Gunna Owner's,

450
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Speaker 1: caucus especially relating to Your Second amendment. Rights The Minnesota

451
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: Gun Owners caucus is an organization that's been on top

452
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: of this consistently when it comes to the DFL's desire

453
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: to go and take away your right to keep and bear.

454
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Speaker 1: Arms and typically the media arrives late on issues that

455
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Gun Owners caucus was on top of before

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Speaker 1: they Were good, Morning, rob how you doing this, morning, Sir.

457
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 6: I'm doing all. Right, yeah we always enjoy doing the

458
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 6: media's job for them and pointing out all the things

459
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Speaker 6: that they're. Missing so as do you.

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Speaker 1: Listen before we get to The Supreme court and marijuana

461
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Speaker 1: usage and firearm. Ownership AND i know we've talked about this,

462
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: before BUT i FIGURED i wanted to get you back

463
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: on so you could share your. Thoughts it appears that

464
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: this special, Session rob is all but. Dead That Governor

465
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Speaker 1: Tim watson is going to call relating to gum, reform

466
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Speaker 1: and now he's going to go and.

467
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Speaker 2: Conduct these town.

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Speaker 1: HALLS i wasn't surprised that he was going to be

469
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Speaker 1: doing them IN gop, districts but in my, View Rob,

470
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: door it would have been more beneficial if he went

471
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: to THOSE dfl districts on The senate, side where he

472
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: still wouldn't have the votes for passing any of these assaults.

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Speaker 4: On we don't talk about. That Oh i'm, Sorry DO

474
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: i just call The republicans? Fault all The republicans fault

475
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: that the that THE dfl doesn't have the vote to

476
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: pass there the extreme. Agenda keep Blaming republicans.

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Speaker 1: Is that the sole reason why he's not calling the special, session.

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00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 2: Or is there more to all of.

479
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: THIS i, mean we know he doesn't have the votes

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00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: on his own side for the d for THE dfl

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00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: in The. Senate But i'm, curious robs are to get

482
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Speaker 1: your thoughts, on especially because the amount of time that

483
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: you spended the legislator legislature covering this, stuff and what

484
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Why walls has has pulled off.

485
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Speaker 3: Of this, well SO.

486
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Speaker 6: I think that the heat has died down a little

487
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 6: bit from him trying to capitalize on the. TRAGEDY i

488
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 6: do know from some sources at the capital That walls

489
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Speaker 6: did go to A SENATE dfl caucus and attempted, to you,

490
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 6: know talk to, them AND i guess there was broad

491
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Speaker 6: consensus that a special session was not a good idea

492
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Speaker 6: in that AND i imagine that that pushback was coming from,

493
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Speaker 6: uh you, know the three or Four democrat, senators but

494
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 6: also the leadership who doesn't want to hang those senators

495
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 6: out to dry that they they have been on, record

496
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 6: at least two of them had been on record saying

497
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 6: that they don't support assault weapons. Bands so now you

498
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: know the governor was going to be putting them on the,

499
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Speaker 6: spot AND i guess he was not very receptive to that.

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Speaker 6: Message he saw this as an opportunity to kind of

501
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 6: capitalize on. Tragedy and my guess is that they just won.

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Speaker 6: OUT i think they were banking on the idea that

503
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Speaker 6: they could Blame republicans for not taking, action which you

504
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Speaker 6: know they certainly will come election. Time but you, know

505
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Speaker 6: we have session coming up in just the couple short

506
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 6: months here and the but the messaging has, been you,

507
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 6: Know republicans are standing in the, way but we've been

508
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 6: very loud and very, adamant to the point where even

509
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 6: the media has has had to, notice you, know to

510
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 6: your earlier point that it's not That, republicans it's The.

511
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Speaker 6: Democrats that if The democrats had the, vote they could

512
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 6: pass a bill through The, senate punted over to The

513
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Speaker 6: republicans and then blame them all day. Long but they,

514
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Speaker 6: know channeling my Finest hamilton, here you don't have the

515
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Speaker 6: votes backing.

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Speaker 1: Up a little further on the issue the do you

517
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Speaker 1: think that the fact That Governor Tim walls thought that

518
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Speaker 1: he would have an edge to you, know pass an

519
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: assault weapons ban or high capacity, magazines and you, know

520
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: the appetite for that seemed to one may not have

521
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: been there to you know to begin, with but died

522
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Speaker 1: down relatively. Quickly i'm just, Wondering, rob if you see

523
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: this as a sign nationally that efforts like yourself in

524
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Speaker 1: The Minnesota Gun Owners caucus and other second Pro Second amendment,

525
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: groups that this is a positive example of the efforts

526
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: made inasmuch as more and more people realize, that you,

527
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: know stripping away the rights from lawful gun owners is

528
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: not the way to go and look at solving these

529
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Speaker 1: potential tragedies in the. Future do you see this as as, Progress,

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Speaker 1: Rob you, KNOW.

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Speaker 6: I, do just because you, KNOW i think people are

532
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 6: beginning to ask questions when these proposals come, up especially the,

533
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: media questions that they didn't normally ask, before, because you,

534
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 6: know when in the wake of the, tragedy they made

535
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 6: sure that they ran pulls while people's emotions were still

536
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: high and ignorance about the, event how it, transpired and

537
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 6: what weapons were actually, used where were it was still.

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Speaker 6: Abounding you, know in the wake of a, tragedy you're

539
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Speaker 6: going to get you, know six five percent of the,

540
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 6: metro which is about what they, got less than fifty

541
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Speaker 6: percent Of Greater. Minnesota but who just, say, yeah ban

542
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 6: assault weapons because nobody needs an assault. Weapon but their

543
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: idea of what an assault weapon is, is you, know

544
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 6: a fully automatic machine gun that you you, know saw

545
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: in you see in action. Movies right when the media

546
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 6: starts asking questions, like well what about the ones that

547
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 6: people already, own and then the other side doesn't have an.

548
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 6: Answer now people start, realizing, well, okay WELL i don't

549
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 6: own a machine, gun but now my gun you could be,

550
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: banned or you, know my my husbands or my wife's

551
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 6: or my, sons you, know you're trying to turn them into.

552
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: CRIMINALS i think people start once those questions are, asked

553
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: and it's really glaring that the policy is really, unclear

554
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 6: and to this, day neither The walls nor the anti

555
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 6: Gun democrats have provided the actual language of the of

556
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 6: a bill that they wanted To and so when all

557
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 6: those questions are out, THERE i think people start getting

558
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: more skeptical of the overall.

559
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Speaker 2: Policy do you expect this is going to come up next?

560
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Speaker 2: YEAR i assume it'll go.

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Speaker 6: AHEAD i mean there's enough radically anti gunners in The

562
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Speaker 6: senate That i'll try to make this an. Issue all, Right.

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Speaker 1: So let's go. Here we've talked about this in the,

564
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: past but The Supreme court said yesterday that it is

565
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: going to consider whether people who regularly spoke marijuana can

566
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Speaker 1: legally own. Guns the, arguments they say will probably take

567
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: place early next, year with the decision likely early summer

568
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: of next. Year The republican, administration working off of an ap,

569
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: story Favors Second amendment, rights but the government attorneys argue

570
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Speaker 1: that the ban is a justifiable restriction The Supreme, court excuse,

571
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Speaker 1: Me Donald trumps administration is asking for the justices to

572
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Speaker 1: revive a case against The texas man charged with the

573
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Speaker 1: felony because he allegedly had a gun in his home

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Speaker 1: and acknowledged.

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Speaker 2: Being a regular pot.

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: User Justice department appealed after the lower court largely struck

577
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: down a law that bars people who use any illegal

578
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: drugs from having. Guns so there's a few more points in.

579
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Here But, ROB i, mean what are your thoughts on?

580
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: This AND i know we've talked about it, before but

581
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: sort of reiterate your stance on what The Supreme court

582
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: is going to take up regarding marijuana usage and legally owning.

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Speaker 6: Firearms, yeah you, know this is a little bit. Disappointing you,

584
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: Know Pam bondi's just a department Of justice has been

585
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 6: kind of on a seesaw where they'll step in and

586
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 6: defend gun rights in one, breath and then the other

587
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 6: side try to try.

588
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: To take them.

589
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 6: Away you, know this doesn't bode well for the underlying.

590
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 6: Case about seventy percent of the time when you, know

591
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 6: The Supreme court takes up a case that's you, know

592
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: on a direct appeal from a from a lower circuit

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00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: without a circuit split or you know that means a

594
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 6: different circuit coming up with a different, opinion they overturn

595
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 6: the underlying. Circuit so The Fifth circuit's ruling in this

596
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 6: is fairly. Vulnerable and you, know the question has always

597
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 6: been what does an unlawful user or addicted to, me

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00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 6: because that's the language used IN. Usc nine twenty two that,

599
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: says if you're an unlawful user or addicted to a controlled,

600
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 6: substance then you're prohibited from possessing a. Gun what The

601
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 6: Fifth circuit found is that well at the time of

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00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 6: the nation's, founding which in the light of The broon

603
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: decision from twenty twenty, two says any gun control restrictions

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00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: that are apply today have to have been similar to

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00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 6: laws that existed at the time of the country's. FOUNDING

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00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: i don't think anybody agrees with AND i think the

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00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 6: history supports that if you're, intoxicated if you are under

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00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 6: the influence of a drug or, alcohol that you shouldn't

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00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: be able to carry that that's a dangerous. Activity AND

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00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: i think the history supports, that AND i think just

611
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 6: common sense supports. That but there's so much ambiguity with

612
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 6: the law as it. Is is, that you, know just

613
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 6: because you own alcohol in your home doesn't mean that

614
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 6: you're carrying around a gun while you're. Intoxicated AND i

615
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 6: think along the same lines is just because you might

616
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 6: be a medical or recreational cannabis, user that doesn't mean

617
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 6: that you're always you, know when you go out in

618
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 6: public and you're carrying a fire arm and self, defense

619
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 6: that you're going to be high and dangerous at the.

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Speaker 2: Time so The.

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Speaker 1: Justice department argued that the law is valid when used

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Speaker 1: against regular drug users because they pose a serious public safety.

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00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Risk to what you were saying talking With Rob dorf

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Speaker 1: from The Minnesota Gun Owners, caucus the government said THE

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00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: fbi found this would be the case re relating To

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00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Ali Denial, hamani and the government said THE fbi found

627
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: That harmani's gun and a cocaine in the search of his,

628
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: home as they probe to travel and communications allegedly linked To.

629
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Iran the gun charge was the only only one, filed,

630
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: however and as lawmakers, said the other allegations were irrelevant

631
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and were mentioned only to make him seem more. Dangerous,

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: now the case does mark another flashpoint application relating to

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00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: the particular issue and the application of The Supreme court's

634
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: new test for firearm. Restrictions the conservative majority found in

635
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that The Second amendment generally gives people

636
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: the right to carry guns in public for self, defense

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00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: and any firearm restrictions must have strong grounding in the nation's.

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00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: History so the landmark twenty twenty two, ruling by the,

639
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: way And i'm. Waiting we had to disconnect On rob's,

640
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: phone so we're waiting for him to.

641
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: Call back here in just a.

642
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: Moment the landmark twenty twenty two ruling led to a

643
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: cascade of challenges to firearm laws around the, country though

644
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: the justices have since upheld a different federal law intend

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: to protect victims of the domestic violence by barring guns

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00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: from people under restraining. Orders, rob is there any indication

647
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: from you without. KNOWING i, mean the justices are going

648
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: to take this up next, year so we don't really

649
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: know exactly AS i haven't seen unless you've heard something,

650
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: else any sort of comments on which way they might

651
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: go on. This but is there any sort of speculation

652
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: on how The Supreme court might might end up going this?

653
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: Way or do we have to wait until we hear

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00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: some of their comments next?

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: Year, yeah we'll see some of the briefs pretty.

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: Soon.

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Speaker 6: HERE i, think you, know the numbers aren't aren't. THERE

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Speaker 6: i THINK i mentioned earlier about seventy percent of the

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Speaker 6: time when they take up a case like, this you,

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Speaker 6: know directly from a lower, court they end up overturning

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Speaker 6: what the lower court. Said so you, know if you're

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Speaker 6: a betting, person the safe money's on that they're going

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Speaker 6: to agree with The trump administration that these people should be.

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Speaker 6: Disarmed you, know it is an interesting. Situation the facts

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Speaker 6: of this case aren't you aren't the best and they

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00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 6: always say bad facts make bad, law where this guy

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Speaker 6: just admitted to being very frequently. HIGH i guess they

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00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 6: might not get a direct win on, this BUT i

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Speaker 6: think getting some more guidance on what constitutes an unlawful?

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Speaker 6: User does that, mean you, know because In, minnesota for,

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Speaker 6: example you can recreationally use cannabis legal Under minnesota, law

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Speaker 6: and the federal government has made it a policy that

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Speaker 6: they don't enforce personal cannabis. Use they're not going to criminalize.

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Speaker 6: That so are you actually an unlawful user at that

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Speaker 6: point if you're not breaking state law and you're not

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Speaker 6: breaking a law that the federal government intends to. Enforce

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Speaker 6: if nothing, else we'll get some more guidance and clarity

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Speaker 6: about you know what the distinction, Is.

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Speaker 2: Rob dor from The Minnesota Gunnor's.

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Speaker 1: Caucus anything going on with your group you want to

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Speaker 1: mention BEFORE i thought you lose this.

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Speaker 6: Morning, Yes so tomorrow at least two cities that we

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Speaker 6: know about are taking up bans on assault weapons at

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Speaker 6: the local, level something that they can't do under current state.

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Speaker 6: Law we are looking for plaintiffs who are looking to

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Speaker 6: sue their. City So i've got two requests for. People,

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Speaker 6: one if you live in the city of A diana

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Speaker 6: Or Saint, paul get in touch with. Us go to

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Speaker 6: Gun owners DOT mn if you're interested in potentially being

690
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 6: a plaintiff in one of these. Cases and everybody, else

691
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 6: keep an eye on your local city, councils because there's

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00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 6: a whole cabal of city councils and mayors that are

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 6: looking to pass ordinances banning common, firearms standing standard capacity,

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Speaker 6: magazines forcing you to store your firearms in a government mandated.

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Speaker 6: Way and if you see them coming up on your

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Speaker 6: city council, agendas let us know and start checking, immediately

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Speaker 6: because these are they're moving fast right.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah how are they going to pull?

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Speaker 1: That you CAN'T i, mean as you, MENTIONED i mean

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Speaker 1: with with, preemption, right we can't do this, Anyhow so

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Speaker 1: how are They is this all just just a political

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Speaker 1: theater Rob yeah it.

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Speaker 6: Is but the issue is that they're they're trying to

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Speaker 6: side step it by putting, language you know in the

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Speaker 6: bill That, okay we're going to pass, us but we're

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Speaker 6: not actually going to enforce it until preemption's. Over. Uh

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Speaker 6: and the problem with that is the problem with that

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Speaker 6: is that people are going to you, know if you're

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Speaker 6: moving to a, city you don't know any of this

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00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 6: ridiculous showmanship that the cities were engaged, in and you

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Speaker 6: look at The sydney or city ordinances and you look

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Speaker 6: at it and, says oh my, GOSH i can't, own,

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Speaker 6: uh you, know my standard capacity magazine in the. City

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Speaker 6: you're not going to do, it, Uh and that chills

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Speaker 6: your exercise of a right that you already. Have so

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Speaker 6: that confusion is harmful to the, public and that's what

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Speaker 6: we'll be suing.

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Speaker 2: OVER i had a quick question that rolled.

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Speaker 1: In i'll just read it to you rather than play

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Speaker 1: the entirety of the talk. Back but the individual had

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Speaker 1: a domestic when they were, nineteen they're now forty two years.

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Speaker 1: Old are they still banned from using or having?

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Speaker 2: Guns?

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Speaker 6: Rob depending on what type of case it, was possibly

725
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 6: there is a restoration of rights process that you can

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Speaker 6: go to that's typically pretty successful on old cases like.

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Speaker 6: That he can reach out to me Gun owners dot

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Speaker 6: imn if he wants to chat some more about, It.

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Speaker 1: Rob, Door Minnesota Gun Owners. Caucus as, always thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show this. Morning, MAN

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Speaker 1: i appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Anytime, john thank you for having me so keep.

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Speaker 2: You with the theme of.

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Speaker 1: Pot we still can't sell it recreationally. Properly so recreational

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Speaker 1: cannabis businesses sorry From channel five are struggling to find

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Speaker 1: flower to stalk the. Shelves months after getting their. License

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Speaker 1: they basically have been able to open up their dispensaries

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Speaker 1: to sell legalized recreational, marijuana but they can't get marijuana to,

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Speaker 1: sell which makes for a bad shopping experience and a

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Speaker 1: liter a literal. Buzzkill i'll be here all. Morning some

741
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Speaker 1: owners believe the shortage of suppliers and delays with The

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Speaker 1: office Of Cannabis management are fueling the.

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Speaker 2: Problem, wait what.

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Speaker 6: Give?

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Speaker 1: Me the government's office dealing with cannabis management might be

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Speaker 1: part of the. Issue i'm shocked one dispensary is still

747
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Speaker 1: waiting on a recreational marijuana to fill the shelves right.

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Speaker 1: Now supply isn't catching up with. Demand this, summer THE

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Speaker 1: ocm received or excuse, me issued thirty seven business licenses,

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Speaker 1: statewide and, again where are like three years out from legalizing,

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Speaker 1: this including twenty three for retailers to sell recreational. CANNABIS

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Speaker 1: a Mid september update on the state website said those

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Speaker 1: businesses are still waiting for cult manufacturers and testing facilities

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Speaker 1: to supply the. Product at least two of the growers

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Speaker 1: are tribal nations with agreements that allow them to help

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Speaker 1: stock the. Shelves some owners explain that reaching out to

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Speaker 1: the cultivators has also been a. Challenge another retailer, said

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Speaker 1: they're all seeing the same. Problem medicals AND thc drinks

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00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: are keeping doors, open but getting their hands on flower

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Speaker 1: is the.

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Speaker 2: Goal like how they call it, Flower it's called Pot ganjah.

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Speaker 1: Flower some business owners fear that playing the waiting game

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Speaker 1: any longer could end up costing. Them one owner, said

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Speaker 1: The office Of Cannabis Business, management it's like they're putting

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Speaker 1: people out of. Business they've done, nothing they haven't directed.

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Speaker 1: Us they basically have been, like just figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Yourself i'm, SORRY i just it's such a, joke in

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Speaker 1: such an absolute.

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Speaker 2: Joke but don't.

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Speaker 1: Worry everybody that paint family sick leave when that starts

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Speaker 1: On january.

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Speaker 2: First it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic i'm going to add to this commentary same day

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Speaker 1: driver's license program has been discontinued after reported, issues just

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Speaker 1: to add it to the. LIST i also have a,

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Speaker 1: funny rather interesting story out of The New York post

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Speaker 1: relating to marijuana and A karen who was living next

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Speaker 1: door to a pot user actually won a landmark court.

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Speaker 1: Case we'll give you details. Next we'll get back to

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Speaker 1: more of your comments from The iHeartRadio app brought to

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