1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: The talk station seven thirty come up with seven thirty one, 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: fifty five KRCD talk station. Hey, look, it's election day. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: If you didn't get the memo, get out and vote, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: somebody knows all about that works very hard to ensure 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: that Ohio, the state of ohouse the gold standard for 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: election integrity. Welcome back to the fifty five KRFC Morning Show, 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: House Secretary of State Frank Larrose. Great to have you 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: on the show. 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: Today, Frank Brian, Happy Election Day. One hour ago the 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: polling locations opened. I was listening to your traffic report 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: just now. I was surprised to hear that there wasn't 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: a massive traffic jam at every polling location. Because we're 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: gonna have huge turnout today everybody, well at least it 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: should be that way, right, Everybody should be really excited 15 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: to get out of vote in these local elections. They 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: have a huge impact. 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: On your life. I mean, this is election year. This 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: is like a presidential election year for the citizens of 19 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. We got an entire council slate 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: to vote on and the mayor. A lot of people 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: dissatisfied with the direction of the city. And I know 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other people outside of the city 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: that have no controlleror say over it. But what happens 24 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati has a profound impact on all the regions. 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: And yet Secretary of State Frank LeRose, they anticipate if 26 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: any if the prior, if the pass is indicative of 27 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: future a voter turnout would be lucky if we get 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of the people to vote. 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: It's a tale of two different cycles in a lot 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: of ways in Ohio because when you look at the 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: even numbered years twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four, 32 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: we've had massive turnout. Like I always laugh when the 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: leftists and the liberal groups say that I try to 34 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: suppress the vote, because if that's my objective, I stink 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: at it. We're not suppressing anything we've had. We've had 36 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: huge turnout in Ohio, and we're really proud of that, 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: really massive turnout in Ohio. And then a year later, 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: when you have an odd numbered year, when you have 39 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: a local election, it drops, as you mentioned, sometimes in 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: the teams or twenty percent range. It's too bad because 41 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: we all know it matters who lives in the White House. 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: Trust me as a reservist in the Army. It matters 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: who my commander in chief is and who our president is. 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: But what probably makes a bigger impact on your daily 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: life is not who lives in the White House, but 46 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: who works at the courthouse or the schoolhouse or city hall. 47 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: And that's the decision that we're making. Those are the 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: decisions that we're making right now. Here's the other thing, Bran, 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: I get this from people all the time. They say, 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: you know what, I know, it's important, but I just 51 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: don't know enough and I don't want to guess. Well, 52 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: that's not a good excuse me. If you just go 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: to our website vote Ohio dot gov, you can look 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: at what's called your sample ballot. Heck, this is what 55 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: Lauren and I did last night. Literally, we put the 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: kids to bed. I printed off our sample ballot because 57 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: even as involved as I am, I wanted to make 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: sure I knew all the different judges and city council 59 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: candidates and school board candidates. And we sat there as 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: a couple and we talked about our choices and now 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: we're ready to go. She and I. Ay's going to 62 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: go vote today. So it's easy to do just a 63 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: little bit of research. You're not going to find any 64 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: lines that you're polling locations. I mean, you'll be in 65 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: and out in fifteen minutes. You're going to get a 66 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: free eye voted sticker. For heaven's sake, you should get 67 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: out and make your voice heard today. It really does matter. 68 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Vote Ohio dot com. We have a couple of very 69 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: important judicial races here locally. Betsy Sunman and Josh barker Witz, 70 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: both very good and strong on crime, excellent jurists, and 71 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: we got a real topic conversation around here, which is 72 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the increase in crime. Well, here's a way to solve 73 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: the judicial problem. Vote for Sunderman and Barkerwitz. So, Frank LeRose, 74 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I want to appeal to you. 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: You want you want tough judges, and those are two 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: that are tough and fair. You want good mayors and 77 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: city council members. At no secret that I've been out 78 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: supporting Corey Bowman for a long time. He's a good 79 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: man and I think going to do a good job 80 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: for the City of Cincinnati. But every election, I can 81 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: tell you this is an Ohio Chief Elections officer. I 82 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: know who's going to win today. The candidate who gets 83 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: more supporters to come out and vote bottom line, every 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: election is won by by whoever turns out to vote, 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: and and today's your chance to do it. Don't miss it. 86 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Polls are open until seven thirty. 87 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Tonight, so many reasons to get out. And Frank Lewis, 88 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: I was just talking about the they're endeavoring to come 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: up with some compromise. A handful of representatives from to 90 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: both parties in in DC trying to figure out to 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: open the government dealing with these phased out income tax, 92 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: enhanced premiums and all that. One of the proposals for compromise. 93 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: And there's a reason I'm bringing this up to you, 94 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, Frank LeRose requiring the Affordable Care Act 95 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: marketplaces to confirm that recipients haven't died. Oh, what a 96 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: profound compromise that is. I've shocked to even read that 97 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: they had to discuss that as a compromise. This is 98 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: part of your job making sure that dead people can't 99 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: vote in Ohio. And last week you announced you found 100 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: twelve are you referred twelve hundred criminal cases to the 101 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: US Department of Justice for prosecution. Apparently we had non 102 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: citizens actually voting in federal and state elections. 103 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: And some of this goes back to before my administration. 104 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen is as far back as we could look 105 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: with limitations and that kind of thing. But we said, 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: you know, listen, voter fraud is rare. Let's put that 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: into perspective. First of all, with seven point eight million 108 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: registered voters, millions of people voting in each election, it's 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: a really good thing that we when we do our work, 110 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: we find, you know, just over a thousand cases that 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: need to be referred over the last seven years, right, 112 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: and so we've referred those cases to the US Department 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: of Justice for suspected election fraud that occurs in those 114 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: even number of years when there are federal elections on 115 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: the ballot. And yeah, these are cases where non citizens 116 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 2: have attempted to register to vote, in some cases, because 117 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: of human error at boards of elections or whatever, have 118 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: actually been successful in registering to vote. A few cases 119 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: where we caught people doing what's called multi state voting, 120 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: where they vote in Ohio and in another state. And 121 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: there need to be consequences for this, you know, the lessons. Oh, 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: it's so rare, a Rose, why do you make such 123 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: a big deal about this, Well, because it is a 124 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: big deal. Carjackings are rare in my neighborhood, thank god. 125 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: But when one happens, I want the criminal to be 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: brought to justice from the case. I mean, this is 127 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: like common sense kind of stuff. And so yeah, we're 128 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: working with the federal Department of Justice. We also, as 129 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: you mentioned, we remove dead people from the voter rules. 130 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: We do it on a monthly bas This shouldn't be controversial. 131 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: We get that list from the Ohio Department of Health, 132 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and the High Department of Health knows everybody who has 133 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: passed away in the state of Ohio. The death record 134 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: is generated where the person dies. But the reason why 135 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: we needed federal data is because when somebody dies out 136 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: of state or maybe even overseas, maybe they're visiting a 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: friend or whatever else, we have a harder time getting 138 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: that death record. And so now we're able to access 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: federal data. I had to sue the Biden administration because 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: they weren't going to give it to me. Thankfully, the 141 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: Trump administration has been happy to do that. And yet 142 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: we removed that people every month from the voter rules. 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Another crazy reality of the Biden administration didn't want to 144 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: share information so we could get rid of dead people. 145 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: On the voter rolls. That is nefarious. I mean, it 146 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: has an out loud statement that they appreciate and embrace 147 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: the whole concept of being able to well illegally vote well. 148 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: And what's crazy is that the laws says that they're 149 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 2: required to share that data. That's the funny part. So 150 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: last year, when I got on the phone with somebody 151 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: from the US Department of Homeland Security from the Biden administration. 152 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: This person was hired there during the Obama administration. She 153 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: said the quiet part out loud. She said, well, you know, 154 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: we used to allow election officials to use this information, 155 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: but we don't trust that they're using it correctly, like, oh, 156 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: you hate seeds out in flyover country. Don't know how 157 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: this complicated federal data works, and we think you're going 158 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: to misuse it, like come on, give me a break. 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: And so thankfully we have access to that now and 160 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: we are using it to make sure that only citizens 161 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: are registered to vote, and only living people registered to 162 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: vote in the state of Ohio. 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Great concept. Secretary State Frank LeRose, is it the idea 164 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: that once you land in Washington, DC, you're suddenly, you know, 165 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: granted all these magical powers that we out here in 166 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: fly Over Country just don't have It's all preposterous. 167 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: The elitism. The elitism is a real thing. These people 168 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: genuinely think that they're smarter than us, and and well, 169 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: I think that we're learning they're not. Well. 170 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Bringing this full circle to the problem we have with 171 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: crime locally, the idea of deterrence. We need strong judges 172 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: to act as that deterrence. I applaud your efforts. As 173 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: small as the numbers may be relative to the entire population, 174 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: you have sent a strong message to those who might 175 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: consider breaking the law. We will refer you to the 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Department of Justice for potential criminal prosecution. So don't bother 177 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: trying it in the state of Ohio. 178 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: There's a good saying out there, but I'll clean it 179 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: up for radio, so you don't have to believe me. 180 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: If you mess around, you will find out. And just 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: what if you mess around with voter fraud in Ohio, 182 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: you will find out you will be prosecuted at either 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: the local or state level, or we will refer you 184 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: to the federal Department of Justice so that you will 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: face justice for doing it. And in fact, in most 186 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: cases it's a felony. So if you are a non 187 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: citizen who attempts to register to vote and commits a 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: felony that makes you subject to immediate deporte and so 189 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: people should take this stuff seriously. 190 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Frank LeRose, thank you so much for 191 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: spending time my listeners with me this morning, and thanks 192 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: for all the hard work you've done ensuring we are 193 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: the gold standard here in the state of Ohio as 194 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: far as election integrity goes. And thanks again for working 195 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: with Corey Bowman. We really have high hopes for Corey, 196 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and I certainly appreciate your efforts working with him for 197 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: a better Cincinnati. 198 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: He Then, get out and vote. If you have an 199 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: absentee ballot, you got to get to your Board of 200 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Elections by seven thirty tonight, and thank your poll workers 201 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: when you get there. They're working hard for us.