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Speaker 1: former Vikings quarterback Jeff George just around the corner, but

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Speaker 1: a short segment as I jump out to kick off

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Speaker 1: the final hour in Indie with Pete burst A still

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Speaker 3: Is he not Yeah, they're they're meandering around. He's kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jeff George is still kind of like the

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, he's, uh, he looks good. I think

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Speaker 3: I actually, I think they had to harangum from next door.

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Speaker 3: He was gonna get up on a podium and do

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And and the Vikings are in a quarterback spot

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Speaker 1: talking about with Courtney last segment. As a as a

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Speaker 5: It's absurd. It's absurd.

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Speaker 3: I think it's absurd for the NFL as well, just

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Speaker 3: the fact that they might have to, you know, move

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Speaker 3: But things have changed, right, It's it's not this is

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Speaker 3: it would be a shame, but you know, the Bears

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Speaker 1: Indeed, I'm totally with you there, It's just it. It

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you touched on the urgency of the situation

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Speaker 1: as you're feeling it right now.

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Speaker 3: I've only been waiting thirty one season, so I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna hang up on you for

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Speaker 1: a second. We're gonna come back, and it sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be you. Pa and Jeff George sound good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is gonna be great.

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Speaker 2: All right, sweet, that's that's Pete Bursi.

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Speaker 1: He's live in Indy and PA has tracked out the

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Speaker 1: former Vikings gunslinger. Jeff George is going to join Pa

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Speaker 1: and Pete live from Indy. Next, it's the Combine KFA

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Speaker 7: To No Ladies and Gentlemen, Day two from the National

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Speaker 7: Football League Scouting Combine. It's about to come to a conclusion.

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Speaker 7: For nine to noon an FM one hundred point three

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Speaker 7: Vikings quarterback Jeff George, who was the first overall pick

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Speaker 7: he's from Indiana. Spent twelve years in the National Football

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Speaker 7: League and was a teammate with Pete Bursich. In nineteen

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Speaker 7: ended for him in Minnesota at Saint Louis And the

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Speaker 4: Now, what's going on, man, what's happening? Good to see you.

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Speaker 7: The term slappy, you know, you said it on my

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Speaker 7: You're like, life's full of slappies, And that was the

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Speaker 7: And I brought this up a little earlier when you

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Speaker 7: I mean, Jeff George is behind him. Danny Green makes

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Speaker 4: They're getting killed.

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Speaker 7: They eventually lose by two to go with Jeff George

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Speaker 7: Uh and uh and and that was the origin of

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Speaker 7: Is it to day you'll never forget? And that ninety

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Speaker 6: Won't you know, won't forget because that was the beginning

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Speaker 4: Well. I have to be honest.

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Speaker 7: Okay, the the the kindness and you and I reconvening

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Speaker 4: Let's let's get him to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, man, you can still throw it.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you know you don't have to ask me twice.

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Speaker 6: this summer. So you know how it is. It's just

436
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 6: you need an opportunity and uh timing and a little

437
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 6: luck on your side, and you know, who knows what

438
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 6: can happen. But I know he's my son. I'm not

439
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 6: one of those dads that says, hey, you know, yeah,

440
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 6: we've he we've had some big macs. So that's uh,

441
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 6: you got to.

442
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Speaker 4: Google that one New School election.

443
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Speaker 6: But we'll see, we'll see.

444
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

445
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Speaker 3: So one of the things that Kevin O'Connell has said

446
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: is that franchises failed young quarterbacks before the opposite happens.

447
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: Do you do you agree with that of these guys

448
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: getting enough time to develop the NFL?

449
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 6: I do agree with that. And I was just talking

450
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 6: to uh, do you remember uh his name? Uh? I

451
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 6: can't think it was. I was just talking to a

452
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 6: friend of mine, Bill Musgrave, who was.

453
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 4: One of the quirkiest human beings you'll ever meet.

454
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 6: He's awesome, and we were teammates when I was with

455
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 6: the and got to know him really what came out

456
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,959
Speaker 6: in the same year and then wow, I came up

457
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 6: in Minnesota to work a mini camp.

458
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 4: I got to send him a picture when.

459
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 6: Bill was here, and but we were just talking about

460
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 6: this and with young quarterbacks, and I friend him with

461
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 6: this because of my experience and when I came into

462
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 6: the league. It's hard to ask a young quarterback to

463
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 6: be the leader of guys that are, you know, in

464
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 6: their late thirties. You know, I I if I have

465
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 6: a young quarterback, I'm going to build I mean, yeah,

466
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 6: you keep your studs that are you know, all pros,

467
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 6: and but when you surround them around, you know, thirty four,

468
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 6: thirty five, thirty six year old veterans who are just

469
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 6: kind of there to you know, do they want to win, Yeah,

470
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 6: they want to win, but they're you know, they want

471
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 6: to get They're married and have kids and I want

472
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 6: to get that paycheck. So as a young quarterback, I

473
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 6: think you need to surround him around guys that are

474
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 6: more his age. You can grow together. You know, when

475
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 6: you're in the hut on you're looking at a he's

476
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 6: twenty two and you're looking at a guy that's twenty four,

477
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 6: twenty five years old, you can get in their face

478
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 6: and say, hey, you know this is what I need

479
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 6: from you. This is but it's hard to get into

480
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,880
Speaker 6: guy's face when your sinners like thirty six, three seven

481
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 6: years old. How are you going to lead that guy?

482
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 6: So I don't know. We were talking about Fernando Mendoza

483
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 6: and you know what I thought with the Raiders should

484
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 6: do and they just eat the surrounding with guys that

485
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 6: are his age. Yeah, you know, grow together, develop together,

486
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 6: and then you know, three four years you're gonna be

487
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 6: great like Dallas did. With with ape Man Irvin and EMMITTT. Smith.

488
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 6: They had a nucleus guys that were the same age

489
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 6: and they grew together and you can become a great

490
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 6: leader that you have to be in the NFL. So

491
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Speaker 6: I'm not really sure what the roster looks like in

492
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 6: Minnesota and whether they're older or younger, but I know

493
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 6: you got guys like Justin Jefferson and you know, fairly

494
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 6: young and you know, many years ahead of him, and.

495
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Speaker 4: And an offensive mine did play calleing head coach. You

496
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Speaker 4: one coach of the year.

497
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Speaker 6: Who's young as well. So just build around your quarterback

498
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 6: and bring in young guys that are hungry, that want

499
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 6: to work hard in the off season, and you stay together,

500
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 6: you go out together, eat dinner together, and you know,

501
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 6: it's it's easy to be a leader as a young

502
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Speaker 6: quarterback when you're leading younger guys your age.

503
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Speaker 7: Can you imagine what life would have been like for

504
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Speaker 7: you in Champagne if they had had an il?

505
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know they couldn't afford me that. I've been

506
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 6: calling Pete an hey when you got in South then yeah.

507
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean the comps, you get it, the barrel,

508
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 7: I like chicken and places like, why wear this hat?

509
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 6: They give me a little bit, so I got, you know,

510
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 6: I got to show be shown seen with my own

511
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 6: oy hat.

512
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Speaker 7: This is former Vikings quarterback Jeff George from the Indianapolis

513
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 7: Scuting combine. What a wonderful, wonderful man, great stories, Bill Musgrave.

514
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 7: So if I say one of the most loving, quirky

515
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 7: people you'll ever meet, would that be accurate?

516
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Speaker 6: Bill's quirky.

517
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 7: He's like a brother to me. Okay, we're brothers, and

518
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 7: you can share that that. I shared this story with

519
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 7: you when he was offensive coordinator here. Can't remember the situation,

520
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 7: but like his his play call card was like that

521
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 7: big It was just tiny, little index card and you

522
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 7: have the whole thing on him. So I asked him

523
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 7: something about it, and it was before a practice. And

524
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 7: here's how quirky Bill Musgrave is. He looks at me

525
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 7: and I'm you know, he's not showing me the play

526
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 7: call side of it. But he goes, Okay, let me

527
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 7: tell you you, Paul, this play puts the lotion in

528
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 7: the basket. This play puts the lotion on the skin.

529
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 7: And this play, when we want to strike down the field,

530
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 7: put the lotion in the basket. Yeah, and walked out

531
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 7: to the practice field. I'm like, what just happened? That's

532
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 7: I mean, that's Bill.

533
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 6: He's basic great, He's got a great offensive mine and uh,

534
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 6: you know you're saying that little car. So when I

535
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 6: was with him in Oakland, Yeah, he was the guy

536
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 6: that I'd come to on the sidelines and uh and

537
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 6: ask him what would you see? What would you have done?

538
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 6: And I'd make the right read, you know, and and

539
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 6: he would always have an answer as a young guy,

540
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 6: and you knew he was going to be a great coach.

541
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 6: But he does it's all up. He all has it

542
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 6: all in his mind. He knows what he wants to

543
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 6: call and knows what he doesn't need. You know, the

544
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 6: car the big play sheet that has you know, over

545
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 6: a hundred plays on there, and you know third and three,

546
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 6: third and one to three, there's twenty plays third and

547
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 6: long there. Yep, he hasn't his money. He knows what

548
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 6: he wants to do. And I'm happy he got h

549
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 6: with the Jets, Andy with the Jets, and he'll do great.

550
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 7: And and he he wasn't the guy that would like

551
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 7: cover his mouth when he was doing the plays.

552
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 6: He was.

553
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 7: I don't care if they see what I'm saying. They

554
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 7: have no idea what's happening here, what the what the

555
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 7: keys are and stuff. So like Bill's just.

556
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: Uh, he's one of a kind.

557
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 6: Ye.

558
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 5: What is there what bugs you the most when you

559
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 5: watch football?

560
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: Now?

561
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 5: I mean, is it?

562
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: Is it the replays? Is it the you know, like

563
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: Paul was saying with the covering of the faces?

564
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 6: I mean what you know, honestly, what bugs me the most?

565
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 6: And it's coming from a quarterback. Uh how they protect

566
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 6: the quarterback? You know it's not but you know, you

567
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 6: get irish back in the day, you know, ninety you know,

568
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: I remember you're releasing the bus. Some of the worst

569
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 6: hits I ever took was after I throw the ball

570
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 6: and then they take two steps and you know, hit

571
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 6: me in the chin or hit me in the chest.

572
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 6: And you know, nowadays, you know you barely hit them

573
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 6: or tap the head, and you know there's flags and

574
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 6: you know, just play, you know, play football. That's part

575
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 6: of it. You're gonna get hit. Yeah, I understand, you know,

576
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 6: you have to protect protect the knees and all that,

577
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 6: but all these late hits that uh you know, the penalties, Uh,

578
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: that drives me crazy. So it sounds like I'm talking

579
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 6: to you, and well, yeah, well the same of the defense.

580
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 6: You know, all the holding calls, you can't touch a receiver.

581
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 6: I mean, just play, you know, if you're good enough,

582
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 6: you gonna make plays.

583
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 5: Just play.

584
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 6: Let's play football. The best that wears me out.

585
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, the physicality has been has been limited, and it's

586
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: it's just interesting to hear, you know, a quarterback, the

587
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: guy that that that that position that's probably benefited the

588
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: most from the rule changes to say that you miss it.

589
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: It's just I guess for me, it's just the consistency

590
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: and and the technology that's in now, and like what

591
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 3: is a catch?

592
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 5: Right?

593
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: You know, you know, you know what the rule book says,

594
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: but then when you watch it live, you're like, I

595
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm I don't even know what I'm

596
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: seeing here. And you can't make a you can't make

597
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: a guess because who knows what they're gonna come out with.

598
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it's it's crazy. And I remember all the

599
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 6: hits that it it. I remember one hit in particular,

600
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 6: Bruce Smith when I was here with the Coles. I mean,

601
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: I honestly this sounds safe, but I love getting hit.

602
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: You know.

603
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 6: I mean what you get hitting the game, you get hard,

604
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 6: and there's just something about getting up seeing Bruce Smiths

605
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 6: man has a great hit. Good job man, great hit,

606
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 6: you're sitting the hurt and you can't breathe your ribs

607
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 6: or great hit, you know, it just pumps you up,

608
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: gets you fired up, and then he's like, huh, I

609
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 6: just kind of mean. I think any football player can

610
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 6: relate to that. I think you can understand a great

611
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: hit on defense. I mean there's just something about a

612
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 6: seat and you're go, oh, man, well look did you

613
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 6: see that? You know that's a highlight. Yeah, there's just

614
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: something about it on both sides of the ball that

615
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 6: I think it's just part of the game and I

616
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 6: hate to see that, you know, all the flags are

617
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 6: being thrown.

618
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 7: I think it's great that you and John Randall are

619
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 7: still quite close. I mean, youay, you played together here,

620
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 7: you rattled up a bunch of names, but in this

621
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 7: day and age, you're really within the last ten twelve

622
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 7: years or whatever, not just football, but maybe the world.

623
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 7: Like when people relocate, well that's it, you know, and

624
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 7: I'm guilty of it too. Where keeping those relationships for

625
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 7: I mean, we're twenty some odd years removed from it. Now,

626
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 7: you know, thirty coming up on thirty years. That's important,

627
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 7: you know, and that's important to you, isn't it.

628
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 6: I know it is, you know. I Guys like Johnny

629
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 6: Randall don't come around very often, and you know, not

630
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 6: aside from his football talents, Hall of Fame, football career

631
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: all that, but the person that he is, you know,

632
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: you can call him, you just say whatever, and he'll

633
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 6: return your call. And I stay close with him over

634
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: the years and consider him a great friend. You know,

635
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 6: some people just you don't You don't need to talk

636
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 6: to every day and even every year, you don't need

637
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 6: to talk to But when you do talk to him,

638
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 6: you just pick up right we left off, and I

639
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: fill that with you every seventeen years.

640
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: You and I.

641
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, let's go to Joe Sensors.

642
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: That still that's going to New Orleans. I want to

643
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: go to New Orleans with you.

644
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 7: Where when you called me with this no caller IDJO,

645
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 7: What's what this no caller ID?

646
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: You know? Three times?

647
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: That's funny. So I was gonna get ready. I don't

648
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 6: know how Tom, I'm ill literal a lot of that stuff, Okay,

649
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 6: and I had this phone back in ninety five and

650
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 6: they somehow it came up no car D sometimes from

651
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 6: a burner.

652
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: So now I use it.

653
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 6: I use it to my advantage. So my son was

654
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 6: at Alabama for a couple of years and I would

655
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 6: call that, you know, I'd get calls and I I'd call,

656
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 6: you know, for tickets, Hey can I get But they

657
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 6: would never answer my call if it didn't come from

658
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 6: no call I D. Why we know they want something,

659
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 6: So I do no car D. They they sit there

660
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: and they go coach, And they thought they thought I

661
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 6: was Coach Saban.

662
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 5: Did you play the bit?

663
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 6: So I did. I went all year, I just so.

664
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 6: So one time a guy said, I said, man, hey,

665
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: you made the wrong call on that. Get your butt

666
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 6: on you, you know, and they go, all right, coach,

667
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 6: And I played along with it for a while and

668
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 6: they thought I was Nick Saban. So I'd use it

669
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 6: to my advantage.

670
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, Nick Saban without the Nick Saban pey, Yeah, exactly know.

671
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 6: What I mean.

672
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 7: Jeff George nine to noon, former Vikings quarterback. Uh, you

673
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 7: have a fan who's at the combine and he's a

674
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 7: two time NFL Coach of the Year.

675
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: I didn't.

676
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 7: He's one of my very best friends of all my

677
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 7: years in football, and uh so I met up with

678
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 7: him yesterday and I told him, I'm super excited that

679
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 7: Jeff George is coming on the radio show tomorrow. Kevin Stefanski,

680
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 7: he's now with the Falcons. You know, it's like when

681
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 7: Jeff is not trying to convince me the Falcons or

682
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 7: his favorite team or your favorite team.

683
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 4: Something like that. You he he told me a story.

684
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: Uh, first you wanted Stefanski wanted me to tell you

685
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 7: hello from him. He claims he met you at a

686
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 7: pas I seen camp in Indianapolis back in the day.

687
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 4: What's that all about?

688
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 6: No, he did, and Kevin's great. I remember giving him

689
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: a call when he was going through all that stuff

690
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 6: in Cleveland, and uh, in my opinion, you know, former player,

691
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 6: I would love to play for Kevin Fanski. Great offense

692
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 6: of my great guy, loyal guy. You can trust him.

693
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 6: If he tells you something, it's you know, it's right.

694
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, he just means the world to me.

695
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: So when he was going through all that stuff, I

696
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: just kind of call him, say hey, Kevin, you know

697
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 6: you're doing a great job. All of us former players

698
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 6: understand what you're what you're doing, and what you're about.

699
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 7: And he just texted Falcon's finest. I mean, you guys

700
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 7: in this Atlanta. He's the new coach of the Falcons.

701
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 7: You were former Falcons. You guys in this Falcons thing.

702
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 7: Holy cow, he's going to do great.

703
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 6: They got the in my opinion, of the best coach

704
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 6: in the league. So I wish him.

705
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 4: I'm a huge Falcon fancy. Well, can can you imagine

706
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: he might.

707
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 5: Be on a plane to Atlanta for a workout.

708
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 7: Can you let's say An Egan backup quarterback.

709
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 6: A fifty eight year old? Still you think of fifty?

710
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 6: He still play over.

711
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 5: Three, doesn't matter. Pay money to watch it though, So

712
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: would I.

713
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: So stank, just just stand.

714
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 6: I wouldn't get hit, I'd be smart, I'd dump it off,

715
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 6: I'd get rid of it.

716
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: But well, that's not Jeff George's. You would never play

717
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 4: like that.

718
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 7: Come on, it's not like with all due respect, and

719
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 7: we can say this because we love Brad Johnson and

720
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 7: he loves us, but you ain't Brad Johnson. I mean

721
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 7: Brad like dumped and shallow bast his way to a

722
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 7: super Bowl, which is great.

723
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: You Aaron Rodgers. I could do that, dump it off,

724
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: throw three steps fight.

725
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: That's all he did last year. That's all he does.

726
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: So if if if you're.

727
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 7: Just like standing there on the goal line all right,

728
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 7: and you're able to take a couple of steps and

729
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 7: heave it right now, how far would it go?

730
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I've done this as my kids are so

731
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 6: I'm out working out with them all the time. So

732
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: probably about a little over seventy.

733
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: A little over seven.

734
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: This isn't a spiral.

735
00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 6: I mean you have to, uncle Rico, Uncle, I've heard

736
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 6: that too. Not but yeah, uh, I mean you have

737
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: to every once in a while show your kids and

738
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 6: their friends that I did play one time and was

739
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 6: kind of I could throw it pretty good. Yeah I'm

740
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 6: hurting at night, but during that moment, yeah, probably about so.

741
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: All right, we got a couple of minutes.

742
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 7: Why why why did you ever consider getting into broadcasting

743
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 7: radio or TV?

744
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: Because, I mean, bro, you'd be unbelievable.

745
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: No I did. I did, but uh, you know when

746
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 6: you have kids and uh, when you play for so long,

747
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 6: you kind of lose some some moments that you you

748
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: you wish you were there for some games. So that

749
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 6: was important to me to make sure that I was

750
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: there for my kids when they were, you know, coming

751
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 6: home from school, dropping them off, you know, coaching little league, coaching,

752
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 6: junior high being a part of their lives and and

753
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 6: that was important. So that's why I never got into

754
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 6: TV and radio. I didn't want to take it away

755
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 6: from being a dad. I'm a dad first, and that's

756
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 6: same with coaching, most important, same with coach. Especially coaching.

757
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: Coaching is a lot of hours. Oh man, you uh yeah,

758
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 6: you're never home. You don't have any family life, and

759
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: family life is important to me. So that that's why

760
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 6: I never got into it.

761
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 7: Can you imagine a nineteen ninety nine version of Jeff

762
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: George with this O'Connell offense with Jefferson and the middle

763
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 7: zone attacking and the play action off a good back

764
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 7: to Jefferson.

765
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: That's good enough to eat?

766
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it.

767
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: You know, I've said this all you know, all along

768
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 6: that it would be easy to be a six thousand

769
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: yard passer in the league now, and especially if yeah,

770
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: six thousand.

771
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: Just think about what you just said, easy six thousand, right.

772
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 6: I really I really believed because four thousand back in

773
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 6: my day was incredible, right Yeah, And you're not getting touched,

774
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: You're back there, you're being protected. You got Kevin is

775
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 6: a great offensive minded coach. You get you know, if

776
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: you had Justin s Evers, if you had Randy Moss,

777
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 6: Chris Carter, all those guys, how could you not? So

778
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 6: it would? Uh? I really think it could be an

779
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 6: easy easy to be a six thousand.

780
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: When you watch it, do you see any quarterbacks who

781
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: play like you?

782
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: Now?

783
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: Like who reminds you of you?

784
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 6: You know, that's a that's a good question.

785
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers A little bit.

786
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 6: Probably.

787
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you didn't move, but you weren't. No,

788
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: he doesn't move now.

789
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 6: I wasn't when he moved, but now now his forty

790
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 6: two year old, however he is that.

791
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: I guess that's me right.

792
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: Well, they can't move, but yeah, man, the game is

793
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 6: so so different now you have to be able to

794
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 6: run out of pocket. And Josh Allen's incredible. Everybody. I

795
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 6: don't want to jump on the bag and bandwagon, but

796
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 6: he's incredible what he does, he's the whole offense.

797
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so nobody plays like that.

798
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 6: I'm not saying I'm not at all, but probably, in

799
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: my opinion, the best quarterback in the league's Josh Allen.

800
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

801
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 7: Hey, God bless you man, Paul, thank you any welcome

802
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 7: you very much. We're going to stay in touch forever now. Absolutely,

803
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna meet you in New Orleans somewhere that the

804
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 7: next couple of months.

805
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: All right, great.

806
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 6: Cup, you too, great teammate, Great teammate.

807
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 7: Gee George, former Minnesota Vikings quarterback, twelve years in the NFL.

808
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 7: Because continue plays, I'll be late for this. What were

809
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 7: you saying I did? What a great teammate, Pete was

810
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 7: Thank you, slappy, Jeff George, former Vikings quarterback.

811
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: We put a close to the combine coverage after that.

812
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait until tomorrow.

813
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't wait until tomorrow to be back to

814
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 7: KFA N with my main man, mad producer. All of

815
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 7: a sudden, an elite ice fishing angling mind off. The

816
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 7: week he had a Lake of the Woods or weekend

817
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 7: he had a Lake of the Woods and Ballard's resort

818
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 7: and tomorrow Minnesota Wild coach John Hines joins nine to noon,

819
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 7: about ten oh five. It's a big one, a big

820
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 7: part of the year for the while they're at Colorado

821
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 7: and coach Heinsey is off a gold medal winning assistant

822
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 7: coaching performance where his PK went eighteen for eighteen with

823
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 7: everything on the line. That's pretty cool. So heinze tomorrow,

824
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 7: Nacho Lieber. Some carryover interviews from the combine, including Eden

825
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 7: Prairie's Todd Downing, who is the wide receivers coach for

826
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 7: the New England Patriots, plus much more. That's tomorrow nine

827
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 7: to noon. Nor do Jeff George, what do.

828
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: You think unbelievable? I mean, it doesn't he make you laugh?

829
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: He makes you laugh, he makes you go back in time.

830
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: You and I have talked about it where there is

831
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: just whether it's it's the marketing element, everything's about, you know,

832
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: is in some ways kind of a whitewashed image or

833
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: real Yeah.

834
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: Greg O sal Jeff George, come say hi to him.

835
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: Oh wow, go ahead, a meeting of the minds. But

836
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Jeff is I.

837
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: Mean certainly a throwback, right and just his personality must

838
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: have have been. I mean, when you when you think

839
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: about who's in a locker room, who's loud, who's quiet?

840
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 2: And uh and a guy that can get people going.

841
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff, Jeff George was was unfreaking believable to

842
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: listen to for the last twenty minutes.

843
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 4: I loved it all right.

844
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 7: So we leave the combine with if it's a horse race, Yeah,

845
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 7: we're thinking about the Vikings at eighteen or with their

846
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 7: picks that they have on Thursday and Friday.

847
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: Uh.

848
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 7: Theeneman, Dylan Theeneman from from Oregon, the safety I'm on him,

849
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 7: You on him.

850
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 4: I'm on him.

851
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: I will tell you this that it's still I'm leaving

852
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: it still feels like a three horse race. From from

853
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: a position standpoint, I'm still looking at secondary, I'm still

854
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: looking at at de tackle and those sorts of things,

855
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: and corner potentially part of that conversation too.

856
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: But I love the steam. And and by the way.

857
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: Mister Theeneman, you found out about him while talking to

858
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: some kicker on the.

859
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Plane on the way down.

860
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: It's perfect.

861
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: So you think about, ooh, can we get into schefters here?

862
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: Ooh can we have a sneaky chat with a with

863
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: a general manager or team executive?

864
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 6: No?

865
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: Actually, I was just.

866
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: Hey, looking at that Oregon gear, that's that's pretty sweet.

867
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: What are you headed to the headed to the combine for? Oh,

868
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: and you leave with with some safety intel in the mix.

869
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 7: So that was and the guy's name is not like

870
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 7: Bill Smith, it's Atticus Sappington, like it's the coolest author

871
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 7: Tolstoy like name.

872
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Speaker 6: Uh you know.

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Speaker 7: But it's a cool name and a cool person until

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Speaker 7: he ends up with the Green Bay Packers or Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Bears, and then we got a root against and he's.

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Speaker 4: Trying to walk off on us. We don't like that.

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Speaker 4: Hey Man, great job the last two days. Can't wait

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Speaker 4: to see you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Okay, likewise Man, safe travels.

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Speaker 7: Yesnardo, excellent work producing Nine to Noon for everybody at

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Speaker 7: the Vikings Entertainment Network. Thank you for the hospitality for

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Speaker 7: Pete Persich. I'm Paul Allen Nick Madden with our social

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Speaker 7: team at KFAM. Thank you very much, and most importantly,

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Speaker 7: thanks to all of you for listening to Nine to Noon.

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Speaker 4: When you do.

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Speaker 7: That's a wrap from two days of radio at the

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Speaker 7: Indianapolis Scouting Combine and I'm Paul Allen. God bless you

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Speaker 7: and your families. Talk tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Bye ninety It's good news and money Leave them up

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Speaker 4: podcast Today's Paul Allen Show. We're listen back to previous

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