1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,640 Speaker 1: Rannie. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm sitting on a plane at the iad MCO security update. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: So far everything's cool. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: I might need some advice from me though, coming back 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: from MCO, I don't want to land on the. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: Can you hear the person laugh in the background. So 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Don't mention my name and you'll be okay. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: Do not mention my name. I don't know how to 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: break this to you, but I want to tell you 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: a theory about Nancy Guthrie. I'm so sorry, but I 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: got to do this. Eighty four years old, kidnapped from 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: her home. I mean, there's you know all of this. 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: FBI is on the scene within hours, thirty thousand tips 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: or so, poor in from the public, law enforcement doing 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: what law enforcements supposed to do, trying to work the case. 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 3: Someone say methodically, some say they kind of screwed it up, 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: but they're trying to follow the evidence. They're trying to 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: protect an early woman's life. But within forty eight hours, 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: I'm reading last night about how they've covered the story, 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: and I think that's the perspective I want you to 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: take as I talk about something that I've been refusing 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: to talk about for what three weeks now or whatever 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: it's been. This is not the usual handbringing about sensationalism, 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: because we've always had sensationalism, right, yellow journalism, that's as 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: old as the printing press. This is something that's categorically different, 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: and I think it's worth our time to understand exactly 27 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: what's happening, because I think it's going to keep happening 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: to more people until we name it clearly enough that 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: maybe they'll stop doing it. Ashley Banfield podcast named a suspect, 30 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: the son in law to massel Keone. No charges, no 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: evidence presented publicly, no law enforcement confirmation, just a name dropped, 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: kind of like a breadcrumb for her audience to. 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: Go chase, and of course they did. 34 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: Megan Kelly, she structured her coverage around episode titles. 35 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: I was going through the titles last. 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: Night and it's it's I bet the see this is 37 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: really two months into twenty twenty six. I would say 38 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: that for the entire year so far as twenty twenty 39 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: six weeks only what about six weeks, I've not listened 40 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: to one Megan Kelly episode. Oh, I've subscribed to it 41 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: and he gets downloaded to my phone, but I've not 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: listened to. I don't think I've listened to one since 43 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: before Christmas as I went through them. She indeed has 44 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: structured her coverage around the episode titles, dual episode titles 45 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: like Nest Camera Questions, Savannah Stalker, Possibilities, Bitcoin Rumblings, It's 46 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: It's bizarre. Na Tima County Sheriff called Banfield's reporting reckless, 47 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: and I think he was right, but reckless is probably 48 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: too charitable. Reckless implies carelessness. Reckless implies she wasn't thinking. 49 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: I'd argue that Ashley Banfield and Megan Callian, and for 50 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: that matter, all the others I'm going to name, are 51 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: thinking very very carefully. Because here's what Banfield was not doing. 52 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: She was not covering a crime. She was producing a game. 53 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: So she tossed out a thread for her audience to pull, 54 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: and they pulled it. They pulled it across Reddit, they 55 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: pulled it across TikTok, they pulled it across Actually, they 56 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: pulled it across YouTube. They pulled that thread everywhere they could, 57 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: analyzing surveillance, surveillance footage, building you know, competing theories. They 58 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: started arguing with each other. They started generating content about 59 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Ashley Banfield's content, and that drove her numbers higher, and 60 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: then that justified the next episode, which then required a 61 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: new thread to pull. Meanwhile, a real family's being tried 62 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: by algorithm. An innocence man's name thanks to Ashley Banfield 63 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: gets attached to his mother in law's kidnapping in front 64 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: of millions of people by somebody who had zero evidence 65 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: and no accountability. The family, by the way, was officially 66 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: cleared by law enforcement just a couple of days ago. 67 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: Banfield has not retracted one single word. Now Here's where 68 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: I want to push past the obvious media bashing, because 69 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: I think there's something more important going on that I 70 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: don't think people are seeing. The conventional critique of this 71 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: kind of coverage blames the audience. I've done that. I've 72 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: asked why in the hell is everybody watching this? The Internet, 73 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: Internet sluice, the TikTok detectives, the Reddit conspiracy threads, we 74 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: pointed them when we say those people have a pathology, 75 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: they've turned tragedy into entertainment. And yes, that's true as 76 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: far as it goes, but I think it misses the 77 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: more damning and the more interesting question. What if the 78 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: audience isn't the problem. What if the audience is the product. 79 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: Media scholars have spent decades documenting how Hollywood and television 80 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: figured out how to engineer emotional investment, how to turn 81 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: a casual viewer into a fan, someone so invested that 82 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: they go seek out additional content, They evangelize to friends, 83 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: and they do the free distribution labor themselves. The term 84 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: for that, there's a term for it, affect effective effective economics. 85 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: And the critical discovery was that audience participation wasn't something 86 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: to be managed or suppressed. It was something that the 87 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: media that the cabal designs for. You don't just attract 88 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: an audience, you architect a community that then generates its 89 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: own momentum. So what are we watching in the Guthrie case, 90 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: and for that matter, in the Candice Owens multi month 91 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: campaign around Charlie Kirk's death, which follows the exact same 92 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: structural playbook. Is that same architecture imported wholesale to the 93 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: coverage of real crime, serialized revelation that keeps people coming 94 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: back for the next episode, claims layered with just enough 95 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: apparent significance that the audience feel compelled that they themselves 96 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: need to go dig They got to theorize, and they 97 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: got to contribute tip lines that then transform and I 98 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: don't mean tip lines into law enforcement. I mean tip 99 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: lines into TMZ, tip lines into Ashley Manfield, tip lines 100 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: into Megan Kelly, tip lines that transform passive viewers into 101 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: active participants. 102 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: They become co creators. 103 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: They become personally invested in the outcome because they're doing 104 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: what they're helping build the narrative cliffhangers that retain subscribers. 105 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: It's not journalism borrowing from entertainment. It's journalism becoming a 106 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: role playing game. The sad part is real human beings 107 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: are the character. 108 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 4: Anyone who watches to Lug with Michael Brown might find 109 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: himself featured in his taxpayer relief spots as a case 110 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: of the Marty Amen. 111 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Amen Amen. 112 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: So we're talking about the reporting, or rather I should say, 113 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: the game playing that's going on with the Nancy Guthrie case. 114 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: As I said earlier, the difference the distance between covering 115 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: crime stories and producing a actual It's like going to 116 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: a theme park and you're participating in in an experience. 117 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: And my theory is that's collapsed to the point where 118 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: you can't see it anymore from the inside. So if 119 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: you've jumped, if you've jumped into this story, into this experience, 120 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: you probably don't even know that you're playing the game. 121 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: And the incentives of the platforms, the social media, the cabal, 122 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: all of them, and the editorial instincts of the hosts 123 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: are now indistinguishable. Let me tell you what I mean. 124 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that people running these games even though 125 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: that they're doing it, because, as I said earlier, twenty 126 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: years or so of social media, the internet host producer's 127 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: audience growing up inside social media, growing up in this 128 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: fandom of the celebrity culture, the mechanics of participatory storytelling 129 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: had become instinct. There was a guy named Joseph Metheni 130 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: late nineteen eighties built his what is widely considered the 131 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: first alternate reality game. It was a collaborative fiction about 132 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: renegade Princeton scientists who discovered interdimensional travels. He planted across 133 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 3: the early Internet so carefully that in the early days 134 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: of the Internet, remember this is the late nineteen eighties, 135 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: that the people participating in this game could not distinguish 136 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: the game from reality. And it worked brilliantly, and then 137 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: it kept working even after mister Metheni wanted it to stop. 138 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: Then go from the late nineteen eighties to two thousand 139 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: true believers were showing up on this yard. He had 140 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: to end the project. The participants refused to accept his confession. 141 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: They accused him of covering up the cover up. Latheni 142 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: later said of QAnon, they're using my methods and I 143 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: don't like that, And I think that's the lesson. Once 144 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: you build a game that blurs fiction and reality, you 145 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: don't get to decide when people stop playing. Go back 146 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: to Ashley Banfield, she accuses on her podcast the son 147 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: in law of the kidnapping and a murder. Wow, she's 148 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: not retracted that Owen spent four and a half out 149 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: candas Owens spent four and a half hours with Charlie 150 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Kirk's widow, but she never walked back a single claim. 151 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: That's the tell. 152 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: Anybody that's genuinely trying to find the truth changes their 153 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: mind when the facts change, when they don't change their minds. 154 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: When you have exoneration, you have suspects cleared, you have 155 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: very straightforward law enforcement statements, that just gets absorbed into 156 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: the next episode because that just becomes new plot material. 157 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: You're not watching journalism anymore. You're watching a game master. 158 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: Keep the game alive, because guess what, the game they're 159 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: playing pays the bills. Whether you're a network, a cable channel, 160 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: or a podcast, it's paying the bills. Now, I'm gonna 161 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: say something that I imagine some of you are going 162 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: to push back on. So I want to make the 163 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: argument carefully. This is not a First Amendment problem. I'm 164 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: a free speech absolutist. Absolutist by temperament and obviously by training. 165 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 3: The answer to bad speech is more speech, not enforced silence. 166 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: But free speech has never meant freedom from consequences. 167 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: Defamation law it exists. 168 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: It exists precisely for situations where somebody broadcasts a false 169 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 3: statement of fact about a private individual to millions of people, 170 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: causing real, immeasurable harm to mascle Keono, the son in 171 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: law cleared by law enforcement had his name attached to 172 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: his mother in law's kidnapping in front of a national audience. 173 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: If that's not a textbook defamation case, then somebody explained 174 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: to me what it is. Until the people running these 175 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: games face genuine legal and reputational consequences, not just the 176 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: scolding by the local sheriff. The inencemitive doesn't change because 177 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: these platforms are rewarding the engagement. The engagement becomes highest 178 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: when the game is the most dramatic, and the most 179 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: dramatic move is always to escalate new suspects, new threads, 180 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: new revelations, never a retraction. Nancy Guthrie, it is not 181 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: a puzzle to be solved for points. She's a real person. 182 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: Because here's the thing about games, somebody always loses, and 183 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: in this one, it's always the people who were real 184 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: to begin with. 185 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: Stop the gameplay, Michael. 186 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: The only reason why we're hearing so much about Nancy 187 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 5: Guthrie is because she's the mother of Savannah Guthrie, who's 188 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 5: become the current girl at the moment on the Today's Show. 189 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: If this was some cleeve, it wouldn't get the publicity 190 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: that it is getting now. 191 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: Well, in fact, I don't want to relitigate that entire segment, 192 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: but that's precisely the point. That's how the all of 193 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: these podcasters and the others that are playing this game 194 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: that I talk about, they are able to play the 195 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: game because there is a celebrity attachment to it, and 196 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: it is Savannah Guthrie, and I forget what the numbers 197 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: are I've fown that I've thrown. It's like six thousand 198 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: or ninety six hundred. I forget. Maybe I'm dyslexic when 199 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: it comes to numbers, I don't know. But there are 200 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: currently something like ninety six hundred missing persons cases in 201 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: the United States that are being actively investigated or sitting 202 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: on a shelf somewhere because they've gone cold. And what's 203 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: the one that is literally eating up I've got to check. 204 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: I haven't able to find the numbers, but I'd like 205 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: to find the numbers of the total minutes if anybody 206 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: has any access, I think Neilsen would keep it, But 207 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: Neilson's not going to provide it to me. Of the 208 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: amount of time that the cables and the networks have 209 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: spent on that story compared to Oh, I don't know, 210 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: Taiwan and China they could break out into World War three, 211 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: or Russia Ukraine they can break out into World War three? 212 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: Or what's Trump going to do with the Iranians that 213 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: could break out into World Yeah, we didn't worry about that, 214 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: well we ever at that now moving on, most of 215 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: of you goopers know that Hillary and Bill Clinton are 216 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: going to be deposed by the House Oversight Committee next 217 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: week regarding their longtime involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. Slick Willie's 218 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: buddyship with Epstein has been well known since probably the 219 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: early nineties, and of course we now have because of 220 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice PDF that you can go search 221 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: their page. You can find all sorts of compromising photos 222 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: to help document it. And as I like to remind everybody, 223 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: I'm in the Epstein files too. Hillary's own relations with 224 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: Epstein and all this demonic operations on behalf of the CIA, 225 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: Massad and I guess other intel agencies appear to have 226 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: been a little less extensive, but I think those also 227 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: pretty well known to the public. That knowledge starts with 228 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: the fact that Epstein was personally a key organizer and 229 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: a fundraiser for both the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton 230 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: Global Initiative, by which the Clinton's made hundreds of millions 231 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: of dollars of for it, hundreds of millions of dollars. 232 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: All of that. If we think this is going to play, 233 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,239 Speaker 1: this is all pretty incredible. 234 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: In view of the fact that Jeffrey Epstein provided the 235 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: seed capital for the Clinton Foundation, answer the Clinton Global Initiative. 236 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: He also was a heavy donor to Hillary's Senate race 237 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: the New York Democrat Party, and of course is good 238 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: friend Senator Chuck Schumer. Interestingly, also, the Clinton Foundation funds 239 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: a nonprofit called Tara Mar headed by Islaane Maxwell, theoretically 240 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: an environmental think tank that has a young interns program, 241 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: creating a whole new blooming pool for Jeffrey Epstein. Tara 242 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: Mar is completely and totally financed by the Clinton Global Initiative. 243 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: Roger Stone talking to Benny Johnson just yesterday, this is 244 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: all pretty incredible in view of the fact that he 245 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: did provide the seat capital for the Clinton Foundation. 246 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: Does it surprise you that Bill. 247 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 3: And Hillary used the Clinton Foundation's money to fund a 248 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 3: nonprofit that was run by Gislaine Maxwell. Come on, surely not. 249 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: Wouldn't that help explain why Maxwell was not only among 250 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: the two in her sol elites who were invited to 251 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: be present for Chelsea's wedding and awarded a coveted seat 252 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: on the aisle during the ceremony. Why is it that 253 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: reminds me of Oh dang it, Sheila Jackson Lee. You 254 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: remember the congresswoman from Houston anytime there was I miss 255 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Sheila Jackson Lee once. She was great for sound bites 256 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: because she is always saying something stupid like. 257 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: Oh uh, where where where are there? 258 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: Where's the Mars dust that we brought back? Or you 259 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: mean NASA is located into my congrug district. Shazam, I 260 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: didn't know that. She always sat on the row inside 261 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: the well of the House of Representatives, the chamber of 262 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: the House of Representatives, primarily because she knew as the 263 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: president came down, she didn't care whether Republican, Democratic, Communist 264 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 3: and Marxist or you know, Neanderthal. 265 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: She didn't care. She wanted that picture. So the aisle 266 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: seat in politics is incredibly important. 267 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: You get to touch whoever the person is that you 268 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: know is going to get all the attention, and you 269 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: get that photo snapped. So she was one of the 270 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: two hundred or so elites that were invited and she 271 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: got a coveted seat on the aisle during the ceremony. 272 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 3: Sure what why Islene had a better seat than most 273 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: members of the family who were there, signaling what a 274 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: very special kind of relationship with the Clintons and their daughter. 275 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: I think it's key to remember here that Chelsea's wedding 276 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: took place years after Epstein had already been convicted of 277 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: both child trafficking and had served prison time for it, 278 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: set aside the sweetheart deal that he got in Florida. Nonetheless, 279 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: he was still a convicted child trafficker at that time. 280 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: But to the elite like the Clinton and Bill Gates, 281 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: even Trump's trade representative Howard Luck, Nick Bloomberg, Steve Bannon, 282 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: Prince Andrew other members of the garbage royal families, that 283 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: pasty conviction apparently evoked no shift at all in any 284 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: of their behavior towards Epstein and what he was offering, 285 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: even when it came to inviting Epstein's partner to the 286 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: wedding of their only child. Now, I don't now, I'm 287 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: not even going to say it. I was gonna make 288 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: some joke about the probability that Chelsea really isn't Bill's child, but. 289 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: We'll just move on from that. 290 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: But due to their status as prominent elites and prominent 291 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: democrats that to be protected by the corrupt legacy media, 292 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: by the cabal, the Clintons of manage somehow to skate 293 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: through the last thirty years without ever having to address 294 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: one single question from the cabal about their Epstein ties. Now, 295 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: anytime some member of the public attempted to pose that 296 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 3: kind of question during a public event, what happened? Oh, 297 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: they got briskly forced out by the venue aggressive security 298 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: personnel or the Secret Service, either one for Hillary. That 299 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: all came to an end last Saturday in Munich, where 300 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: the question of her Epstein ties was posed by a 301 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: British reporter. Of course, had to be a foreign reporter, 302 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: because nobody in the US cabal would ever dream of 303 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: asking Hillary is such a question of one of their 304 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: personal heroes. Why they can allow that? 305 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: You regret the links that they have been You know, 306 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: we have no links. 307 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 5: We have a. 308 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: What did I just spend What time is it? 309 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: Would I just spend the past old ten to fifteen 310 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: minutes talking about the links between Epstein and Bill and Hillary? 311 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: Pretty close? Did you get an invitation in Chelsea's wedding? 312 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, I know Hillary personally. Where was 313 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: my wedding invitation? 314 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: Neil clear record that we've been willing to talk about, 315 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 6: which my husband has said he took some rides on 316 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 6: the airplane for his charitable work. 317 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't recall ever meeting him. 318 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 7: I did on a few occasions, and thousands of people 319 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 7: go to the Clinton Global Initiative, so it to me 320 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 7: is not something that is really at the heart of 321 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 7: what this matter is about. They are accused and in 322 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: both cases were convicted of horrific crimes against girls and women. 323 00:21:53,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: That should be the focus and what we have no links. 324 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: Okay, the wedding photo, all the photos of Bill in 325 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: Epstein's company, the mysterious painting of Bill wearing that blue 326 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: dress which hung in the parlor of Epstein's Manhattan home 327 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: for years, the White House logs proving Epstein visited the 328 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: White House seventeen times during Clinton's presidency. The thirty two 329 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: times Bill flew on Epstein's jet, a dozen or so 330 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: times he was seen on epstein Island. I think prove 331 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: that is one stinking outrageous lie. He took the rides 332 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 3: on the airplane for his charitable work. Bill Clinton could 333 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: have ridden on the private jets of any number of 334 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: companies or billionaires. Yet who was the go to guy 335 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: for that kind of large jests for so many years, 336 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. And you gotta wonder what sort of charity work, 337 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: what sort of charity work because remember she said it 338 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: was for his charity work. He took quote, he took 339 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: some rides on the airplane for his charitable work to 340 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: the island, which begs the question what sort of charity 341 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: work was there to be done on Epstein Island? Now 342 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: to mission the fact that, as as Cindy McCain, John 343 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: McCain's widow, famously admitted several years ago, those were years 344 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: in which we all knew what Epstein was doing. 345 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: Plane fight, Epstein was hiding plane site. 346 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: We all knew about him, We all knew what he 347 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: was doing, but we had no one that was no 348 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: legal aspects that would go after him. They were afraid 349 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: of him. For whatever reason, they were afraid. 350 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 3: Of him, they were afraid of him. I think that's 351 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 3: pretty clear, right. Why would the wife of John McCain 352 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: say that at a public event with the media present 353 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: if it were not true. Let let's get back to 354 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: Hillary minute. Thousands of people go to the Clinton Global Initiative. 355 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: She said, she just admitted to Epstein's efforts to fund 356 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: and organize that grift for her and Bill. With this 357 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: attempt to try to dodge the central point, and then, 358 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 3: of course I know you can't see it. But let 359 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: me talk about her body language for a moment. When 360 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: you watch her, here's what I observe. The raised eyebrows 361 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 3: and the head nodding as the question is posed, a 362 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: subconscious admission of the questions validity. 363 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: I always told witnesses in trials, and I see people 364 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: do it all the time. 365 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: I see people sitting on sixty minutes or any sort 366 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: of you know what's going to be an adversarial questioning, 367 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: whether it's on cross examination in a trial or it's 368 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: on television, people start asking questions and for some reason, 369 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: people start nodding the head like yeah, yes, Now I'm 370 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: gonna argue, well, they're just acknowledging they understand the question. 371 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: If you talk to body language experts, it's the subconscious 372 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: admission of the validity of the question being asked. And 373 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 3: then the shift to shaking her head no throughout her 374 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 3: spoken answer. As you're giving the answer, you're shaking your 375 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: head no, but looking down and to the right. You know, 376 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: if that's the sign of she's searching her dimined old 377 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: brain for dodges and tangents throughout the answer. 378 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: What am I saying? 379 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: What? 380 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 3: Where can I diverse? Where can I you know, not diverse. 381 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: Where can I divert to something else? And of course 382 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: the shifting around in the chair and the waving of 383 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: arms during her answer, the body language seems to be 384 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: screaming out, I'm lying to you about this. Every word, 385 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: I'm uttering, here's a lie. For years, we've known that 386 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton is one of the most self believing, pathological 387 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: line in sociopaths that our societ society has ever produced. 388 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 3: Bill never gives. Bill never gives tells like this. Do 389 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 3: you know why, Well, remember him walking out. I forget 390 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 3: whose death it was. Somebody had died and he was 391 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: walking out from the Oval office. He was walking down 392 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: the driveway and he saw the cameras and started biting 393 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 3: his lip. 394 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: He is excellent. 395 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: He should play poker because he has no tells. He 396 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: has no tells because I sincerely believe he's deranged. He's 397 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: a damaged human being that he actually believes his own bullcrab. 398 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: I think you know when he dies, they really un 399 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 3: to study his brain to try to understand its unrival's 400 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: ability to create lies out of thin air and then 401 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: actually believe that what he's saying is the truth. Hillary, 402 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: on the other hand, is a very poor liar. She's 403 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: always been. She's practiced inveterate liar for sure, binds the 404 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: stalking trade for any Democrat politician, but she's just awful 405 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 3: at it, and she can't help evincing all these various 406 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 3: tales whenever she's doing it. I knew, I've told you 407 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: the story about being in her office. She wanted to 408 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: shut down the Indian Point Makeular power plant in Westchester County, 409 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: New York, just north of Manhattan, and we were telling 410 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: I was sitting there with one of my staffers, telling 411 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: her she had a staffer there too. You always had 412 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: staffers presence so they could keep notes of what was 413 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: said and what was not said, so there was never 414 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: any you know, misunderstanding about what we talked about. And 415 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 3: I sat there telling her that we'd done all the testing, 416 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: we weren't going to shut down the power plant, and 417 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: she knew, and she agreed it would increase electric greats 418 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: in Manhattan, you know, like a rocket ship. She knew that, 419 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: and she admitted that, and then she asked everybody to leave. 420 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: You know why she wanted everybody to leave because she 421 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 3: wanted to tell me something truthful, but she couldn't tell 422 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: it in front of her staff or in front of 423 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: my staff. And the truthful statement was, I agree with 424 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: everything you've just told me, but I'm gonna go out, 425 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna hold her press conference, and I'm gonna rep. 426 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: You to shreds. Not in so many words, but that's 427 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: exactly what she did. 428 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: So now in a deporate, they find themselves in this 429 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 3: deparate position, desperate position because of the release of the 430 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: millions and millions of fteen related documents by the DOJ. 431 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: So now the Clintons and their lawyers have made every 432 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: move they can think of to try and delay and 433 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: avoid the deposition schedule for next week. But then they 434 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: get faced with possible prosecution for being held in contempt 435 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: of Congress. Now, truthfully, I'd tell them to go pound sand. Yes, 436 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: they would get a referral for a contempt of Congress charge, 437 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: just like Eric the Attorney General whose name I cannot 438 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: recall off the top of my head, Obama's attorney general. 439 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: There are always referrals contempt of Congress. DOJ rarely, if ever, 440 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: prosecutes them. Oh, I know a couple of Trump people 441 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: got prosecuted, one of US trade reps, Steve Bannon. They 442 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: all spent time in jail because they refused to answer 443 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: questions from Congress. Those are the exceptions, not the rule. 444 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: But they think they're facing possible prosecution for being held 445 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: in contempt. They relented and they agreed. They come February 446 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: twenty sixth for Hillary and February twenty seven for Slick Willie. 447 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: Then the question becomes will they actually show up, Will 448 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: they raise their hands and swear an oath to tell 449 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth 450 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: will help you. 451 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: God, I don't know. They probably actually won't be sworn in. 452 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: There were many times that I testified where I was 453 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: not sworn in, but I knew that I was bound 454 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 3: by that oath because I was just like you walk 455 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: into a court room there an officer of the court. 456 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: When you testify as the undersecretary, you are, by presumption 457 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: testifying truthfully. So now you have a former president, a 458 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: former First Lady, a former Secretary of State, a former 459 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: junior senator from the state of New York testifying. So 460 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: they may not actually be sworn in, but they're still 461 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: held to the standard of speaking the truth, the whole truth, 462 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: and nothing but the truth throughout their entire careers. The 463 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: Clintons have been very well documented to have been really 464 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: in close proximity to an amazing number of people who 465 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: either committed suicide, died under suspicions or mysterious circumstances. And 466 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: no one should be surprised in any way if Bill suffers, 467 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: you know, some sort of major setback, or you know, 468 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: he's got an art attack or something worse. 469 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Who knows. 470 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: Between now and February twenty six, when Hillary is scheduled 471 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: to testify, I hope nothing bad happens, but seriously, I'm 472 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: supposed to be shocked. If something doesn't, we'll wait and see. Lastly, 473 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: here's a little bit of glorious information out of Barry 474 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: Weiss's Brave New CBS World. I was gonna mention this yesterday, 475 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: didn't get to it. Anderson Cooper is on his way 476 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: out after twenty years at sixty minutes. Cooper's colleagues in 477 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,239 Speaker 3: the corrupt legacy press are gonna treat this as if 478 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: it's some sort of the end of the world. But 479 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: I challenge you to name a single memorable segment that 480 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper hosted at sixty minutes. Just one, anybody? No 481 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: Daily Mail reports the fifty seven year old CNN anchor 482 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: will not renew his contract with CBS, bringing this tenure 483 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: as his correspondent on the Iconic Iconic news magazine to 484 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: an end after joining the program in two thousand and seven. Now, again, 485 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: without googling it, somebody named a single one of those 486 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: amazing stories that Cooper put on across twenty years at 487 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: the network. Just one, just one, text lines open three three, 488 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: one zero three, keyword Micha roor Michael and then speaking 489 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: to CBS Stephen. Colbert's had a bit of a problem 490 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: on his show too, which has been canceled as of 491 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: May thirty. Turns out he was warned by his bosses 492 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: at the Web network not to move ahead with an 493 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: interview of Texas state representative Can't Changed Tallarico, a dranged nutjob. 494 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: By the way, he's running against Jasmine D. Carocket to 495 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: be the Democrat Party's loser in the November general election 496 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: to be the next US Senator from Texas. Now it 497 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: turns out that Colbert was warned off wasn't told Now 498 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: he claims he was told that the lawyers at CBS 499 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: said he could not interview taller Rico. Apparently that's not 500 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: what the lawyer said. The lawyer said, hey, listen, if 501 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: you interview him, because of the fairness doctrine rules that 502 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: may or may not apply to you, we would say 503 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: suggests that you not do it, because now we're going 504 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: to get all these requests from Jasmin D. Crockett for 505 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: her to be interviewed, and I don't think you want to. 506 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: Colbert doesn't care what the lawyers really said. What he 507 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: wants to claim is that he's well. He didn't want 508 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: to claim it. He wants you to know it. Subliminally, 509 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: he's pushing for Taller Rico to win the Texas primary, 510 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: the Democrat primary, because he knows that Jasmine D. Crockett 511 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: is a sure loser come to general election. He's interfering 512 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: in the Texas Democrat primary, pure and simple,