1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike sincey three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati, 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: sponsored in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: for a three way or cheese cony today. Feeling good, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: it's Skyline Time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Thursday, and welcome in to Cincy three 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: to sixty thanks to Skyline Chili. Anytime you're feeling good 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: and hungry, it's always Skyline time. But I didn't get 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: to ask you, Austin, did you finish? Did you complete 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: the babble headset? 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: No? 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: You did not. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 4: After our attempt at one time, that was this futile 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 4: I gave up. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how easy it was to get to Borough. 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: I'm thankful that Burrow was the first one. Yeah, but 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: I do have that one. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: Okay. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 4: I was going to try to get Higgins, but you know, 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 4: just didn't happen. Didn't happen all right? 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, thanks to our friends at Skyline Chili. I can't 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: wait for next year. Thank you for listening in, and 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: we got a heck of a Thursday show ahead. Phone 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: lines will be open five one three seven, fifteen thirty. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: I have an idea for Skyline Okay special Edition Joe 25 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: Flacco bobblehead Man, how quick can you get a printed? 26 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: Except instead of it's you know him right there, it's 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: just him. It's him sitting at the bar by himself, 28 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: eating a three way, eating a three way. Yep, boom, 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: You're welcome. 30 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: While immediately resonnated with so many people by just a 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: press conference yesterday. I don't know if I've ever seen 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: someone stardom shoot up so much higher in the span 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: of a day. It's ours. 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: Really, It's been cool to hear Ravens fans be like, yeah, 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: like we love this guy yep, and just to he's 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: just so genuine, so refreshing. 37 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 2: It's been awesome. Yeah. It just to me, it just 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: seems like a dude who just appreciates an opportunity that 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: he has, that he's still getting to do what he loves. 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: And uh again, just people Joe cool. I think so 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: much about what makes him Joe cool is that he's 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: relatable to a lot of people, and uh man, yesterday 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: was awesome. We'll play some Joe Flacco audio from yesterday today. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: We also have some Wes Miller audio about five minutes 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: of what Wes Miller had to say a big twelve 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: media day. We have John Shearon aight is E Sports 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: is going to join us at one o'clock this afternoon, 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: and uh so much more. We're gonna read and react 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 2: today to everything Bengals. What else is happening in the 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: sports world? NBA night too, last night Austin, NBA Night two, 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: Here come the Chicago bull Yeah. I mean that's out 52 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: of everything that happened last night, that's easily the lead Bulls. 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: We'll talk about Luke and Cooper, flag wimb and all 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: these great young players. They can't hold a candle to 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: Matas Boozalis. How about that of the Chicago Bulls. Shout 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: out Matas. Yeah, shout out what he was able to 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 4: put together. Shout out to our guy Liam as well, 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: who apparently as a Pistons fan. 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, oh and one pal good. Shout out to 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: Liam man. 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: There is a lot going on in the NBA. Uh. 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: Victor Webbin Yama last night Austin forty points, fifteen rebounds, 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: no turnovers, three blocks. I think people forgot because he 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: was out last year. How dominant that dude is. I 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: also just want to say I appreciate that. I haven't 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: heard a lot of complaining from people that we've been 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: talking about the NBA. Yeah, how about that? 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: And maybe that's just because they're appreciative because of what 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: happened a couple of weeks ago, so that they don't 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: want to complain. But I've also, like I've seen some 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: people in our mentions about the NBA. Yeah, we like 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: the NBA, absolutely, we like talking about the NBA. Uh 74 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: and we hope that maybe you'll give it a chance too. 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: Had put a couple wagers on your favorite team. 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Had some debuts last night? Jock what was it? Jocks 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: of the night? Jos had some debuts last night. I 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: work on getting a sounder. My jock of the night 79 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: did not do well. Cooper flag Austin at one point 80 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: was one for nine in the game. He finished four 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: of thirteen ten points. He rocked up some rebounds, but 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: he even said about his debut not great. Vj Edgecomb 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: though he was great for the Philadelphia seventy six ers 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: thirty four in his debut coming off being Big twelve 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Player of the Year at Baylor. Third most points by 86 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 2: an NBA player in his first game and the most 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: points in a first quarter by an NBA rookie, did 88 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: VJ Edgecomb? 89 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: I heard a crazy stat this morning about Brandon Jennings. 90 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: Do you remember him? I do? 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: In his fifth career NBA game, he had fifty five points. 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: He never scored more than forty the rest of his career. 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: So DJ Edgecomb's gotta keep it going pal. 94 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: And then news broke today. Oh boy. Other NBA news, 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: Terry Rogier, Scary Terry as he's known, has been arrested 96 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: in gambling investigations. Also, Portland Trailblazer head coach and former 97 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: Detroit Piston Chauncey Billups also arrested related to illegal sports 98 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: betting for Terry Rozier and rigged poker games backed by 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: the mafia for Chauncey Billups. 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on with this man. There's like 101 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 4: special X ray poker tables and cheating technology that scanned cards, 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: and some guy at a separate location called the quarterback 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: and insider information and overlap. And some people are speculating 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: that Gilbert Arenas, who has busted for poker games not 105 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: that long ago, has apparently spilled the beans on everybody 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: to crack this case wide open. Oh I don't know 107 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: if that's true or not, but there are a lot 108 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 4: of moving parts right now. 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: You when it comes to the NBA, which. 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: Continues to have a gambling problem, why why is that? 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: Why in today's sports, knowing what we've seen, is it? 112 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: Is it just a sickness that people can't stay away 113 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: from because you know that they're watching for it now 114 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: because you've seen others arrested for it. 115 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: Sure, it's definitely a sickness, like gambling is a legitimate addiction, 116 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: and it's a major issue. But I also think that 117 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: the league itself, the NBA, is probably not doing a 118 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: good enough job of helping out their players or their 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: teams or taking this as seriously as they need to 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: take it. Because the NFL, Yeah, there's been issues with 121 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: guys gambling, but it's never been them gambling on the NFL. 122 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: It's been them gambling on other stuff, you know, on 123 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: company property and stuff like that. Major League Baseball we 124 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: saw it obviously many years ago with Pete Rose. We've 125 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: seen it a little bit recently with those Guardians pitchers. 126 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 4: But I mean, you don't see this with the top 127 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 4: league in the world, in the NFL. 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Nope. Groundbreaking stuff in Major League Baseball as well Austin. 129 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: We've got new managers across baseball. On one end, the 130 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: Angels have a new manager. It's Kurt Suzuki, longtime Red's Killer, Curtins, 131 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: longtime Red's killer, not longtime contract with the Angels. He's 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: given a one year deal. First time manager has been 133 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: given a one year deal by the Angels. That is 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: their Austin sixth manager in eight seasons. Really weird. The 135 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: Angels are just a weird organization. 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: They deserve credit because they were like the only organization 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: who was willing to let Shoheo Tani try to do 138 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: both when they came up, and has turned him into 139 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: what he is. But other than that, I mean, they're 140 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: just dealing with stuff constantly. Like the Tyler Skaggs case. 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: He was killed due. 142 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: To the drug over and was apparently being facilitated by 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: a team trainer of the Angels. That case is still ongoing. Yeah, 144 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: Mike Trout just testified in that case like two days ago. 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: Like that organization's just in shamble. Suzuki said, I've been 146 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 2: playing on one year deals my whole career. 147 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: It feels like so there's a series he was playing 148 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: with the Nationals. Honestly, it's early on in the season. 149 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: A couple of years ago might have been on the 150 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: Reds opened up with them. I can't remember. But Kurt Suzuki, 151 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: I feel like, was seven for twelve in that series 152 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 4: with like four homers. 153 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: Dude, own the Reds. Yeah. And then Austin, you get 154 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: this Tennessee volunteer coach Tony Vttello, how about this? Wins 155 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: the men's College World Series in twenty twenty four, now 156 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: makes the leap and as the manager of the San 157 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: Francisco Giants. It's the first time a big league team 158 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: has hired a manager directly from a college program without 159 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: any experience as a professional coach. I Austin, commend the 160 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: Giants for this. Sure, I've talked about this before. There 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: are too many times in sports it just feels like 162 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: guys are just recycled. Guy gets let go, He ends 163 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: up somewhere else, even though his track record but the 164 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: previous spot wasn't great, but he's been around it for 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: so long. Go get somebody new, Go get somebody fresh. 166 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: I like this approach from the Giants. I commend them. 167 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: What do you think about the Pro Bowl games moving 168 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: to Super Bowl Week. 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: Good makes sense, supposed to be that way. Yeah, all 170 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: the players generally end up traveling to the super Bowl 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: city anyways for their promotions and radio row and all that. 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: So if you can basically get it there and kill 173 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: two birds with one stone and make that a big 174 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 4: part of Super Bowl Week, I think that's a good thing. 175 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: I think the NFL do a good job marketing it. 176 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: My question is, now, what do you do in that 177 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: extra week leading up to the Super Bowl. How does 178 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: the NFL turn that weekend into a profitable weekend? Because 179 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 4: I can't imagine them just giving something up. They don't 180 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: want to ever give up weekends. They don't care about 181 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: college football. They're not going to give up a week 182 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: indo college football. Hell, they played some of their most 183 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: important games at the end of the year on Saturdays. 184 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: They don't care. 185 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: So to me, I'm curious to see how does the 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: NFL now turn this into a profitable week will Because 187 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: maybe it was that the Pro Bowl just nobody was 188 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: caring and nobody was watching, and if it's super Bowl Week, 189 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: you'll get more eyes on that and maybe it increases 190 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: the significance of it. But how do you turn it 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: into something else I think is interesting. 192 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Leonel Messi has been extended Withinner Miami. There was 193 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: a run for f C Cincinnati. It was a conversation that, 194 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, maybe when the contract was up, maybe he'd 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: go elsewhere, maybe he'd be done. He has now signed 196 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: a contract extension to stay at Inner Miami through the 197 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: end of the twenty twenty eight MLS season. So more 198 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Messy in the MLS, yeah, and more hell is real 199 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: coming up on Monday for FC Cincinnati. Yeah. Wait, it 200 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: is going to be a phenomenal sports weekend here locally. 201 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Bearcats are home, Bangles are home. FC Cincinnati is home. 202 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: Much in between all that, Nate Bargatzi's in town. Oh, 203 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: your guy, Nate's in town. Are you going to go 204 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: see him? He's in town Saturday and Sunday. We're going 205 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: to go Sunday night to see him. Wow. So we 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: were looking forward to that. Yeah, I think tickets are 207 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: still available, not with you though, Yeah, yeah, you know 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: the way the tickets are set up, right, was giving 209 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: away this week on his shows, giving away Bargatzi tickets. So, uh, 210 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: that is that's cool as well. 211 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 212 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: Today I want to talk a little bit about what 213 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: Luayna Rumo's got working with the Indianapolis Colts and look 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: at some other defensive moves that were made this offseason 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Speaking of the Bengals, will take 216 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: an update to look at playoff odds and where those 217 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: chances sit. As we do on Thursdays, we will read 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: and react. That's right, read and react. Yeah, what are 219 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: we are? We are we reading reacting to NFL or 220 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: we've been reacting to college football. 221 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: We're reading and reacting to Bengals Jets there. It is 222 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: as we always do, John Shearon at one o'clock. Whoever 223 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: they play, Miller will play some of his audio. We 224 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 4: have the Joe Flacco audio and we will we'll read 225 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: and react to that as well. Thursday Night Football Tonight, 226 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football. 227 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: Kind of snuck up on me. Who do you like? 228 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 4: Vikings Chargers. I'm gonna go Chargers based just off the uniforms. 229 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: M they're going with their old school. It's like a 230 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: mix between old and new. It's their super Chargers alternates. 231 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: Which is that dark blue. 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: It's not the it's not the the yellow that they 233 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: wore the other day. 234 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 4: It's not those Savannah banana jerseys that they wore. It's 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: like the dark blue with more of a golden yellow 236 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: than their typical yellow. Okay, kind of think early two 237 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: thousands Ladanian Tomlinson, Philip Rivers type of Chargers uniforms. That's 238 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: what they're gonna be wearing. I'm excited about those. I 239 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: think that looks cool. They got the alternate helmets and everything. 240 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 7: You know. 241 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 4: It actually makes me think I was, as you know, Tony, 242 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 4: I got this new iPad and what I do is 243 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: I just write down notes constantly, and I wrote down 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: the other we just a random thought and it was 245 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: a question and I'm gonna ask that question to you now, Okay, 246 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: would Ladanian Tomlinson be as dominant today as he was 247 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: in the two thousands? Because Bjeon Robinson keeps getting compared 248 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: to Ladanian Tomlinson, and I think that's a good comparison. 249 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: Would he be as dominant now lt as he was 250 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: in the two thousands? 251 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: I still think so. I mean, I think his game 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: transcends through time. I mean, I did he was so 253 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: good with the ball. In today's game, I think the 254 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: most effective guys are the one that can get the 255 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: ball and get it in space and I think that's 256 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: the job of coordinators in today's game. It's weird with 257 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: Bjeon Austin because I wondered this all the time. There 258 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: are games that feels like he's targeted, and then there 259 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: are games that feels like he's an afterthought. Ladanian Tom 260 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: was always targeted, right, he was always the show. Yeah, 261 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: I think in the past game, I think his game 262 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: would translate well. 263 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: What I thought was offensive line play. I don't know 264 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: that it's ever been worse than it is right now 265 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: in the NFL. Like there is very like the depth 266 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: of great linemen in the NFL, very very few. And 267 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: I feel like back then, running the football and that 268 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: being a run first team, that was what the NFL 269 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: was built on at the time. Sure the college game 270 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: was built on that, and I think that's why it 271 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: translated to the NFL so much, specifically with the development 272 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: of offensive linemen. But then I was thinking about it. 273 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: How many Charger offensive linemen from twenty years ago could 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: I name? 275 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Right? Not one, right? 276 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: I still haven't thought of one. And I wrote this 277 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: down five days ago. I can't think of a single one, 278 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: which maybe just says how good Ladanian Thomas it was. 279 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: But It is interesting because I don't think there's this 280 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: is a tangent. I'm sorry, I've been thinking about this 281 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: for days. 282 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: Bijon is probably the closest player I've seen to LT 283 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: with that movement ability, pass game ability, and like the 284 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: game that they played on Sunday or Monday whatever, the 285 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: Sunday night game against the Niners, I mean, their whole 286 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: game plan was just throw it to Bijon in the 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: flat and let him make a dude miss yep like that. 288 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: If I played the Bengals and I was the Falcons, 289 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: that would be the game plan the entire time. Yes, 290 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: And that was kind of what the Steelers did to 291 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: the Bengals last Thursday. And I wonder, I mean, we'll 292 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: see what happens with Garrett Wilson, We'll see what happens 293 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: with Breece Hall. I wonder if it'll be a similar 294 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: game plan from the Jets on Sunday. 295 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: That See, that's what makes it interesting to me. With 296 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: when you talk about Tyrod Taylor or Justin Fields. Tyrod's 297 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: been around long enough. He's gonna take the checkdowns every 298 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: time they're there, almost annoyingly. Like if Tyrod Taylor plays, 299 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: I could see that being a game where like Brice 300 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: Hall has ten catches and they're all just checkdowns over 301 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: where he's sitting over the ball, defense drops back, Brice 302 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Hall leaks out, they drop it down to him, and 303 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: he just gets easy yards. You're in that bend, but 304 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: don't break mold. I just that's my concern with Tyrod, 305 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: Whereas I feel like Justin Fields is still going to 306 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: hold onto the ball and try to make those bigger plays. 307 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Tyrod's been around it long enough. He's going to get 308 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands, especially if he's a 309 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: little bit compromised. I would worry about Breese Hall in 310 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: the passing game. Let's take our first break. Our phone 311 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: lines are open five to one, three, seven, four, nine, 312 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Football in the NATI is next on ESPN 313 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 314 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Now your chance to win Football in the NATI, brought 315 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to you by Postman Law on ESPN fifteen thirty, the 316 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 317 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Cincy. Three to sixty. There it is thanks 318 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: to Skyline Chili. Thank you for listening on the Home 319 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, I'm 320 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: looking right now going into week eight of the NFL 321 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: season here Austin, and we'll look at some of the 322 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: marquee games coming up this weekend. Playoff odds available right 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: now for the NA Any guess on your behalf where 324 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: the Bengals playoff odds sit as we sit today, I 325 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: wouldn't even know where to begin. Probably not very good. 326 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: Nineteen percent. Yeah, for what it's worth, twenty nine percent 327 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: is where the Baltimore Ravens sit. Lamar Jackson returned to 328 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: practice yesterday. Why and I'll pull up the schedule. It's 329 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: pretty easy. I know it's easy. What about what the 330 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: Ravens have done through this point. It's not like Lamar 331 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: has missed all of the year. What about what the 332 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: Ravens have done on defense? Has people still believing that 333 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: they can turn this thing around? 334 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 4: I think the big thing is the schedule and the 335 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 4: offenses that they'll have to face. Miami is a complete 336 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 4: train wreck. Now, Chicago's obviously good offensively in our getting 337 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: better in the right direction. But Miami's a train wreck. 338 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: Minnesota's a train wreck, with or without Carson Wentz, Cleveland's 339 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: a training wreck. The Jets are a train wreck. The 340 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: Bengals okay, solid, the Steelers okay but not great, and 341 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 4: Green Bay. 342 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 2: And New England, Like. 343 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: There's a couple of difficult offenses that they have to face, 344 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: and I feel like the sports books are betting on 345 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 4: the idea or most people however you want to describe it, 346 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: or whatever metric you want to use, are thinking, Okay, 347 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: the defense will get better over time, and with Lamar back, 348 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: that makes their defense better, and him in and of 349 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: himself as a multiple time MVP makes the the every 350 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: game viable for them. 351 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm not buying in at this point 352 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: to the Ravens. Now, for what it's worth, the teams 353 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: currently listed the AFC Austin with higher playoff chances than 354 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: the Bengals the Ravens, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Steelers, Broncos, Bills, Patriots, Chiefs, Colts, 355 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: any of those teams that you view the Bengals better 356 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: than right now? No, I mean we had this conversation 357 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: the other day. No, even the Texans maybe better than 358 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: the Texans, but their defense is good and and I 359 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: don't think Houston's going to get into the playoffs just 360 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: because of the way that their division works out. But 361 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: their defense is still really good. Yeah, one of the 362 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: best front sevens in football. Jacksonville. 363 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 4: I'm still I'm not ready to give up on I've 364 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: been high on them, high a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, 365 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: I've been high on them. I'm not going to give 366 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: up on them yet. A young coach, young quarterback, a 367 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 4: lot of changes there. Still still not ready to give 368 00:19:59,320 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: up on them. 369 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Team tams that have a greater than fifty percent chance 370 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs Colts, Chiefs, Patriots, Bills, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Jaguars. 371 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: Which of those is the most fraudulent? Steelers Probably? I 372 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: think so too. Seventy two per chance right now for 373 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers to make the playoffs. 374 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: But they're also a team that if their front seven 375 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: plays well and Aaron Rodgers gets on a heater, they 376 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 4: could go on a run like Rogers. Still has that ability, 377 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 4: I believe, and if they continue to get Pat Fryermouth involved, 378 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: and if they find any semblance of a run game 379 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: like that can be a good team. 380 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: Offensively. Yeah, defensively, I can't believe how bad they are. 381 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: They have question marks and Tarah Austin has never been 382 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 4: a good defensive coordinator. It's amazing he still has a job. 383 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 4: But you know, if TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith 384 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: and Nick Herbig and Jack Sawyer and Cam Hayward, I mean, 385 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: that group right there, in and of itself should make 386 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: you a better football team. 387 00:20:54,440 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of Deficus smoked on Sunday night. Though it'd 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: be nice, wouldn't it. Oh, Jordan Love goes nuclear. Speaking 389 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: of defenses, the Bengals in the off season, Austin move 390 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: on from Louena Roumo. I don't know if you've followed much. 391 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 2: Lowen Rumo's doing pretty good job with the Colts. Yeah. 392 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: There was an ESPN article today that kind of highlighted 393 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: what what teams did in the offseason and getting the 394 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: early returns. What do you make so far about what 395 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: you've seen from TJ. Slayton. He's been fine. I was 396 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: I thought he was going to be a bigger impact player. 397 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: Is it more demoral? I think he's been bad. Just 398 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 2: to clarify, I don't think he's been a bad player. 399 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: They are thirty first and EPA allowed in the NFL 400 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: against design runs. I mean Slayton was brought in to 401 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: stop the run. Sure, they also got two rookie linebackers. Yeah. 402 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: They also went and drafted Shamar Stewart, and I mean 403 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: he's missed most of the season. He has Hendrickson's not 404 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: a good run defender, and Chamar had I thought Shamar 405 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: had a golden opportunity on Thursday and did not show 406 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 2: up in the statue. Yeah, I mean I don't. And 407 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: it's too early to say that that that's a mispick. 408 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: Him coming off of an ankle injury after not playing 409 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: for a few weeks. I didn't necessarily have high expectations 410 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: for him. Sure, I'm not expecting him to go out 411 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: and have four TFLs and two sacks, but you would 412 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: at least at least like to see him have more 413 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: of an impact. 414 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: One of the players that is actually having an impact 415 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: Joseph Osai nineteen pressures on the year, good for twelfth 416 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Gotta turned pressures into sacks. Yeah, 417 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean that was the conversation around drafting Shamar Stewart. 418 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: You know a lot of pressures, not a lot of 419 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: sack numbers. I think the Bengals problem is, and it's 420 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: what you just highlighted, Austin. You've got two rookie linebackers. 421 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: You've got TJ. Slayton, who assigned to stop the run. 422 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: Hendrickson has not been in Even when he's played, it's 423 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: not like he's playing ninety percent of the snaps. They've 424 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 2: not gotten much from Miles Murphy. They've not gotten much 425 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: from Shamar Stewart. Yeah, same old Steart. If Osaia is 426 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: getting the pressures, you would like that to mean that 427 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback has to adjust and there's someone else there 428 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: to finish. The problem with the Bengals they don't have 429 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: multiple guys winning on every snap up front. One guy 430 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: might win. It's easy. I'm not gonna say it's easy. 431 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: It's easier for a quarterback to navigate that in the 432 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: NFL if you've got to move around just one guy. 433 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: The problem becomes if you've got to push up and 434 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: now there's pressure up the middle, or you push up 435 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: and spin out and there's another pressure waiting for you. 436 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: Far too many times, in my opinion, the Bengals have 437 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: that initial pressure where it needs to be, and then 438 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: there's just no secondary help. They can't find guys that 439 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: win multiple times on a play, and that puts them 440 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: in a tough situation. Now, Lawson tweeted last night, you 441 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: or him? I do. 442 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 4: Carl Lawson tweeted back where it all started, praying hands emoji. 443 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: Oh so what I did is, of course, the former 444 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 4: Bengals draft pick out of Auburn. I went over to 445 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: the NFL transactions and I call him. Through all the workouts, 446 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: the tryouts, the visits. Carl Lawson nowhere to be found. 447 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: But he was okay last year with the Dallas Cowboys. 448 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 4: He said that he was thankful for the opportunity he 449 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: got in Dallas. He believes he's twice the player he 450 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: was even last year due to a healthy offseason. So 451 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: would you take a flyer on Carl Lawson? 452 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: Yes, take a flyer on anybody. I mean, based off 453 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: of the conversation we just had. I mean, it can't 454 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: be any worse. Can't be any worse. Carl Lawson last year, 455 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: according to Pro Football Focus, fifty nine point seventh grade. Okay, right, 456 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: kind of in the middle of the pack of defensive 457 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: ends in the NFL. It's probably not that much worse 458 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: than most of what the Bengals have. No, and if 459 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: it was him coming home, sign me up for it. 460 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: Bring him home. You'll be having those conversations. 461 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: I do think the Cedric Johnson thing is is noteworthy 462 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 4: because he did play well towards the end of last 463 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: season him and Joseph said both and I would imagine 464 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: they'll Bengals would stick with Cedric Johnson over Cam Sample 465 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: because Cam Sample really just hasn't been the player I 466 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: expected him to be coming off of that Beteller Tendont 467 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: injury and hasn't. I don't know if he's gotten a 468 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: fair share of it of opportunities, but yeah, these are 469 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: the things we talked about a lot this week. Of continuing, 470 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: continuing to make your team better and improve the bottom 471 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 4: of your roster, you got to consider, you know, Cedric Johnson, 472 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 4: Carl Loss and those type of guys. 473 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: Depth is a major conversation in the National Football League. 474 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: As we talked about yesterday, something that everyone's talking about 475 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: from yesterday, what Joe Flacco had to say when we 476 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: come back, Let's get the Joe Flacco audio and let's 477 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: react to that as well. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 478 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: Thanks to our friends at Skyline Chili. 479 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN 480 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals, ESPN 481 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty. 482 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back. It is since he three sixty our number one, 483 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: that's right, ESPN fifteen thirty. That's the home of the Bengals. 484 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: You still say it's sixty. Say whatever we want. Let 485 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: just go with it. I'll tell you who's speaking in 486 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: a way that I think a lot of us can 487 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: appreciate is what Joe Flacco had to say yesterday, And 488 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 2: not just as comment that we're going to get to about, 489 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: you know, getting out to dinner and being able to 490 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: sit by yourself and kind of collect your thoughts, but 491 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: what he had to say from his press conference yesterday Austin, 492 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: I believe, what do we have six or seven minutes 493 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: of Joe Flacco from yesterday? Yeah, we got a few 494 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: minutes of Joe Flacco. Let's dive into some Joe Flacco 495 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: speaking to members of the media yesterday. 496 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, it was nice to have a little 497 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 8: like to be able to breathe a little bit this weekend, 498 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 8: and you know, it feels like I was we were 499 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 8: just out in the practice field and it feels like, 500 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 8: you know, I've barely been there it, so, yeah, it's 501 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 8: good to kind of get back in the normal rhythm 502 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 8: of a Monday, Tuesday and now actually going out there 503 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 8: in the practice field on Wednesday field and prepared with 504 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 8: a normal week. 505 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: You feel like you're operating the way you want to. 506 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 9: You know you're not going to get a full training camp, 507 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 9: but how do you feel like you're out there? 508 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 8: Yes, I mean so far, still learning and trying to 509 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 8: pick up everything, and you know, just play as fast 510 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 8: and as smooth as I can and using just the 511 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 8: same I'm going to try to keep my process the same, 512 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 8: you know, and use these walkthroughs and the practices to 513 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 8: get used to calling it and seeing it, and you know, 514 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 8: just try to keep keep it at a basic level 515 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 8: and keep going from there. 516 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 10: So much focused kill you getting accustomed to your weapons, 517 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 10: running backs obviously, the wide receivers, what about the offensive line, 518 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 10: what side, you know, getting use to them, playing in 519 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 10: front of them, and life. 520 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's been great. 521 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 8: I mean, I think you can tell that those guys 522 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 8: are a hard work, hard working group. And I think 523 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 8: the biggest thing is for those guys to get comfortable 524 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 8: with each other. And now, you know, the way you 525 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 8: get good at playing with each other is just trust, 526 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 8: you know, trust between everybody trust that they're going to 527 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 8: do their job. They have the trust that I'm going 528 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 8: to do my job and get the ball out and 529 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 8: and you know, no, you know, maybe know when we're 530 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 8: getting the ball out in quick game, know when we're 531 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 8: maybe dropping a little bit deeper. I think as long 532 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 8: as they're nobody can do that and trust each other 533 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 8: to do their job and not try to get cute 534 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 8: and make up for something here and make up for 535 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 8: something there, you know, then then we'll grow together and 536 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 8: be happy with it. 537 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 11: Hey, you guys avoid the obligatory letdown game that comes 538 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 11: after a mini by facing a winless team. How do 539 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 11: you guys keep the moments and going on offense from 540 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 11: what you had in Vintsburgh. 541 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 8: Just go out and take every day by itself, prepare 542 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 8: Wednesday like you always do, Thursday like you always do Friday, 543 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 8: and then ultimately win the football game. A lot of 544 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 8: that stuff is just talk, and you know, you don't 545 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 8: have to answer it unless you don't go out there. 546 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 8: You know, unless you don't go you go out there 547 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 8: and don't play well. So it's simple. You can't worry 548 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 8: about what the result is at any point, but definitely 549 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: not on Wednesday. He's got to go out there and 550 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 8: prepare and then on Sunday, same thing. You got to 551 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 8: go play each play and you know, just keep getting 552 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 8: up and doing the same thing over and over again, 553 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 8: having the best play that you can possibly have in 554 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 8: that moment. The results come when you when you're able 555 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 8: to be in the moment and focus on the task 556 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 8: at hand. 557 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 12: So your offensive line, have you had a chance to 558 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 12: kind of we moved with the Orlando and just a. 559 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 13: Kind of shaking heads and saying, well, here we are, 560 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 13: and yeah, I've been able to have that moment yet or. 561 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 8: A little bit, Yeah, because he's very willing to come 562 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 8: up to me and and talk about certain things like 563 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 8: that and just kind of ask me how it's been 564 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 8: going in Cincinnati and yeah, So like I think he's 565 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 8: probably driven that conversation, but we've been able to talk 566 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 8: a little bit about it. 567 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 14: You mentioned one of the game has struggled for the 568 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 14: most part this year before you got here, suddenly starting 569 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 14: to click a little bit, and you think what you've 570 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 14: done in the past game has opened up the run 571 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 14: game or the one game up open up some things 572 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 14: for you Thursday night. 573 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 8: The past game, it's tough to say it's it's one game. 574 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 8: I do think the run game early on in that, 575 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 8: like I think initially the run game did spark us 576 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 8: that little that thirty yard run we had, and that 577 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 8: was our first scoring drive, I believe, and then and 578 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 8: the next one we came out and have another little 579 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 8: chunk run. Anytime that you can, you know, get some 580 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 8: of those games in the running game, it's going to 581 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 8: help your offense out a lot. So I think in 582 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 8: Thursday's case, the run game definitely helped us out. But 583 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 8: we just got to, you know, like I said, we 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 8: got to just continue to work at it and have 585 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 8: faith that you know, we're getting better, and you know, 586 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 8: one game doesn't necessarily indicate what the next is going 587 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 8: to be. And and just like I said before about 588 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 8: you know, the process of it all, I don't think 589 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 8: we can really worry about that. I think we just 590 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 8: got to continue to work on getting better and trust 591 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 8: that we're doing the right things, and then on Sundays 592 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 8: it'll show up. 593 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 12: Is the biggest way a quarterback can help a run game, 594 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 12: un to think of it that way, but the other 595 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 12: ways beyond you obviously talking and running again in that way, 596 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 12: you know, what are the biggest ways quarterbacks can help. 597 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: Keep a running game efficient. 598 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 8: Well complete passes when you get the opportunity to do it, 599 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 8: you know, stay ahead of the stakes, you know, of 600 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 8: the sticks, you know, first, first and second down, especially 601 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 8: first down. When you have easy completions and and you 602 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 8: can keep your helpself ahead of the sticks, then it 603 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 8: gives you the chance to be multiple and and not 604 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 8: you know, be kind of forced into being one dimensional 605 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 8: because you weren't able to do what you were supposed 606 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 8: to do on early downs. I think that's probably the 607 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 8: biggest thing. Other than that, maybe I would say just 608 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 8: the just the operation of it all, gett into the 609 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, snapping the ball, having good rhythm with that. 610 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 15: This is obviously a very unique situation where you have 611 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 15: to leave your home and income here the way you did. 612 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 13: How are you navigating a dad? 613 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 8: Well, the good thing I guess, I guess you could 614 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 8: say is that I was in Cleveland by myself, you know, 615 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 8: my family was in New Jersey. We decided to do 616 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 8: that this year because last year we decided to do 617 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 8: it the other way, and this year we just said, hey, 618 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 8: let's keep the kids in their routine and you know, 619 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 8: see how that goes, and there's been a challenge just 620 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 8: with that. 621 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 13: You know. 622 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 8: I love being there and around them and doing all 623 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 8: those things. But at the same time, like they get 624 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 8: in their routine and they're having a lot of fun 625 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 8: back at home, and early on in the season they 626 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 8: came out to Cleveland and they're gonna come out to 627 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: this week's game. And I think there's always a challenge 628 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 8: of sitting in a room by yourself and being lonely. 629 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 8: So for me, it's trying to find ways to maybe 630 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 8: stay over here a little bit longer and then you know, 631 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 8: just kind of take myself out of that mindset, call home, 632 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 8: go sit at a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, 633 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 8: that's pretty enjoyable to do, you know. After there's not 634 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 8: too many situations, I tell you, I tell people all 635 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: the time. I used to see guys sitting at a 636 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 8: bar by themselves, or you know, just sitting by themselves 637 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 8: eating and grabbing a little meal, and like, man, I 638 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 8: feel so bad for that guy. You almost want to 639 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 8: go join them. And now I realize, like that dude 640 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 8: was in heaven and and and not to say that 641 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 8: that's that's obviously not what I want I'd rather. I'd 642 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 8: rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table with 643 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 8: my kids and hearing what the hell they were talking 644 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 8: about all day. Uh, but there are but but if 645 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 8: but if you have to do it, then you might 646 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 8: as well take advantage of it. So, you know, just 647 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 8: little things like that. 648 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 16: Or Cincinnati and is starting to see you at restaurants 649 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 16: and take pictures and say hello. 650 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: I guess so maybe a little bit. 651 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 5: I try to get there early. 652 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 8: You know, I'll go eat the four thirty dinner and 653 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 8: and and and beat and and beat everybody up, beat 654 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 8: everybody out of out of work and out of the house. 655 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: So all right, so that is uh so much good 656 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 2: stuff from Flacco. Let's start with what the end there. 657 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: It's such a relatable thing, and I I really do 658 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: think relatable because Austin, I know you tweeted out about 659 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: it and and something that you actually will do to 660 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 2: to go sit somewhere, watch football, have a couple of drinks, 661 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: eat and and at times not have to say anything. Yeah, 662 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, there's something in this line of work as well. 663 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: My wife would probably totally disagree if she's listening right now. 664 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: But there are times like when you get done talking 665 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: for three straight hours on the radio. Sometimes I just 666 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 2: want to go home and be quiet, And sometimes that 667 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: can get like construed as are you upset or you 668 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: in a bad mood or like no, sometimes do you know, 669 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: just sitting in your silence is a good thing. Yeah, 670 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: And you know for Flacco, because I used to think 671 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: the same thing, man, what's that? What's that person? Known 672 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: by themselves? Why are they eating by themselves? And now 673 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: you see that? Or now even if I have a 674 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: chance to do that, it's like and this is kind 675 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 2: of nice right now. And he did a good job 676 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: because he he went back and you know, if he 677 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: had the choice, he'd obviously love to be with his family. 678 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: But to make the most of a situation and be 679 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: able to sit in silence sometimes is something that I 680 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: think a lot of people relate to. 681 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think a lot of people understand, like 682 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 4: part of what he was trying to say is to 683 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 4: alleviate the loneliness of the ice you might feel just 684 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 4: going out in public and being in that environment, even 685 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 4: if you're not with somebody else, can still be really enjoyable. 686 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 4: To your point, though about after you get done talking 687 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 4: for three hours a day, So like my schedule normally, 688 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 4: as I do this and then I go produce another 689 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 4: show for another three hours, and so I'm constantly listening 690 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 4: to the radio, and I'm listening for if something's going wrong, 691 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: if there's silence, if there's a word, if I'm hearing 692 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 4: myself talk or you talk, or other people talk. I'm 693 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 4: constantly monitoring that. And so my drive home every afternoon 694 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: is complete silence. It's the best thing in the world 695 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: to just have that complete silence. But yeah, man, I 696 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 4: mean like this past weekend, I went out to a 697 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 4: local establishment that's my favorite wing place in Cincinnati to 698 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 4: watch the Ohio State game. And I was just had 699 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: a couple of beverages, had twelve wings, just watched football, 700 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 4: didn't really interact with anybody on me. It was so nice, 701 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 4: but also alleviates that, you know, loneliness that I feel 702 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 4: from you know, doing and living alone and all that. Yeah, 703 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 4: So that sort of thing. 704 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: It's where it's just a like people all the time 705 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 2: are like, what else do you listen to? And I'm like, honestly, 706 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't listen to a ton I When I'm done 707 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: with this, I'd like the quiet. I like listen in 708 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 2: the morning I listened to MO in the afternoons, usually 709 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: if I'm on my way home or doing it and I'm 710 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 2: out and about. But outside of that, I don't mind 711 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: the silence. And that's different for me because I used 712 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: to be one that like always has to be going, 713 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: always has to be active. You learn as you get 714 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: older to appreciate the silence too. Yeah, and I thought, 715 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's why that resonates from 716 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: what Joe Flacco said and why it's blown up the 717 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: way it has. 718 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: It's also like fun for me again, just looking from 719 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 4: our perspective on all of this thing is like I 720 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 4: can't tell you how many times I'll come home and 721 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: I'll sit down on the couch or lay down under 722 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: whatever and have my phone or my iPad or whatever. 723 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: I don't even turn a TV on. Yeah that's crazy. 724 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: I don't, Or if I do, I'll mute it. It'll 725 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: be on in the background and I'll just like if 726 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 4: I'll look up or whatever. Yeah, you know, there's I 727 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 4: appreciate how genuine and refreshing and open Joe Flacco is. Yeah, 728 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 4: And I do think you know, a lot of people 729 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: want to immediately want to start talking about Joe Burrow 730 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 4: because everybody thinks that this has to be a comparison. 731 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: First of all, comparison is a thief of joy. Second 732 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 4: of all, is it not a good thing for Joe 733 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 4: Burrow to have an older, wiser, veteran quarterback around, right, 734 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 4: somebody that has been there and seen it and has 735 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 4: lived the life both the life that Burrow's living right now, 736 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 4: in an entirely different life over the course of his 737 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 4: twenty plus years. It seems like in the NFL, like 738 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 4: everybody wants to say, oh, there's a quarterback controversy. 739 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 2: No there's not. 740 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 4: Or this guy's such a better person than Joe Burrow. 741 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: No he's not. 742 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: They're different personalities. They can both be good for each 743 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 4: other and ultimately good for the football team. 744 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: Right. If Joe wanted to do it, I would do 745 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: everything I can to have him back next year. He's 746 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: a backup, I agree. I mean, just what a perfect 747 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: role that would be if he wants to continue on there. 748 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: There are some other things he said too that I 749 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: thought are interesting. He talked about the process of still learning. 750 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: He used the term the process a lot. What's different 751 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: about Flacco than I think a lot of other quarterbacks Austin. 752 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like a normal live practice 753 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: for him to be getting better, just normal walkthrough stuff 754 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: where he can just get a play call in his 755 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: ear and talk that play call through in the huddle. Yeah, 756 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: like that's hard for him. He's still learning that he's 757 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: seen everything else, so just the process of learning working 758 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 2: on his calls. And then he mentioned one of his 759 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 2: biggest things, play fast. Even if that's dumbing it down, 760 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: even if that's simplifying things, we've talked about them before 761 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 2: on the show. There's something to be said about playing 762 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: fast and not over complicating things. Jamar Chase is really good. 763 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: Te Higgins is really good. Your running back's good. Don't 764 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: over complicated, simplify it and go play fast. 765 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting earlier this week they I 766 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: guess Joe had previously talked about getting the play call 767 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: in from Zach and like certain F and X and 768 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 4: other parts of the play call sounding familiar due to 769 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: Zach's accent. I never knew Zach had an accent, right, 770 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 4: but apparently he does. And those little things they called 771 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 4: an Oklahoma accent. This is the first I've ever heard 772 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 4: of that. Yeah, is that what thing? But when he 773 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 4: was talking about the other day. I'm like, man, those 774 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 4: letters do sound like I had never heard of that. 775 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 4: You know that that little stuff is interesting, those little 776 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 4: intricacies of how you're learning a playbook and spitting it 777 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 4: back out or I'm fascinated. 778 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: By that stuff. I also think his his comment about 779 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: you know why why the running game success, It's also 780 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: something we talk about a lot. Staying ahead of the sticks, 781 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: you know, finding ways to get in second, manageable, third 782 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: manageable where they've run is just as much an option 783 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: as the pass gives you an opportunity to succeed. Jets 784 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes Austin said of Jamar Chase, a 785 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: potential Hall of Famer. Let's get there and work our 786 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 2: way down. Also said on Joe Flacco that you could 787 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: pretty much put him in Canton as well. 788 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know about that, but also sure. 789 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 2: Also, Jets will likely be without Sauce Gardner for this game. Okay, 790 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: but linebacker Quincy Williams should be back well. Sauce needs 791 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: to take as much time as possible. Take your time, 792 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 2: be healthy, come back for enjoy homecoming. Maybe on Saturday. 793 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, play a long career, he could. Yeah, I would 794 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 4: imagine the Jets will be here by that time. I mean, 795 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 4: come on in, if he travels with the team, you 796 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: don't have to worry about playing on Sunday. Yeah, relax. 797 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: Can he play for the Bearcats against the number one 798 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: against the number one passing attack in the country. He 799 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: might need him healthy enough to do that. Great question. 800 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Joe Flacco forty seven thousand yards in the 801 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 4: NFL in sixty four touchdown nuts, super Bowl champ, Super 802 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 4: Bowl MVP, Comeback Player of the Year. I don't know 803 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 4: that he's a Hall of Famer. Forty seven thousand yards, 804 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: that's insane. That's twenty six miles. He's thrown twenty six 805 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 4: miles of passes. That's pretty good. Let's take a break. 806 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 4: We'll finish up hour one. 807 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: Next. John Shearon from Ada his Esports will join us 808 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 2: at one o'clock. We have talkbacks when we get to 809 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: our number three. We've got some West Miller audio, we've 810 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: got read and react, and we've got your phone calls 811 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: as well. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty 812 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: on the Whole of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 813 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: Sports Station what's going on in baseball? 814 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio. 815 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three sixteen, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 816 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: Sports Station, Skyline, Chile. Anytime you're feeling good and hungry, 817 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: It's Skyline at the time. From the Pro Football Hall 818 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: of Fame, Austin. Following a second reduction vote of candidates 819 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: in the seniors category, thirty four former players remain under 820 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: consideration for the Pro Football Hall of Fame's class of 821 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Out of those thirty four, Isaac Curtis 822 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: Leap and Lamar Parrish and Ken Anderson all move on. 823 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh wonderful, So they are in to at least the 824 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 2: round of thirty four. It was hogwash earlier this week 825 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 2: when they went down to the fifty disgusting for the 826 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: modern era and the only Bengal candidate was Willie Anderson. 827 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 2: It is nonsensical that Geno Adkins did not get at 828 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 2: least past that fifty two. Now, I didn't expect Gino 829 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: to be a first ballot Hall of Fame. I don't 830 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 2: know that anybody did. 831 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 4: But some disrespect from Geno Atkins is it's a bunch 832 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: of hogwashes. 833 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: What it is. I saw this floating around earlier because 834 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: we always asked the question, like, you know, if you 835 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 2: could bring back one player to today's team, who would 836 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: it be? And there are so many Bengals of the 837 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: past that would make sense. I don't know how you 838 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: could ever go against just bringing back a guy like 839 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: Anthony Munhos to a team. I think there's something about 840 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 2: this year's team where you could make the argument that 841 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: if you could bring back one, it would be Geno Atkins. 842 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean, based on how we 843 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 2: talked about this team and their inability up front to 844 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: do much right now, he might be at the top 845 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: of the list. 846 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 4: Pass rush from the middle of the defensive line, yep, 847 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 4: would change this defense. 848 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 2: Especially with Trey Hendrickson and the pressure rate we just 849 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: talked about earlier with Joseph Oosai. Who would be some 850 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 2: others on your top of your list? Munyo's obviously, Yeah, 851 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's a good one. 852 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 4: If I could bottle up twenty or two thousand and five, 853 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 4: Odell Thurman on the team, Okay, sideline to sideline linebacker 854 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 4: at with that guy was a beast. 855 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: I thought Logan Wilson was a sideline, a sideline guy 856 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 2: who was a couple of years ago. 857 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 4: Can I get twenty twenty one Logan Wilson. I'd take 858 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 4: him the Rocks, Yeah, I mean if we just replaced him. 859 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of some other I mean obviously 860 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 4: Ken Riley, Yeah at corner, if you were to pair 861 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 4: him with DJ Turner right now. 862 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way Turner Turner's playing. Yeah, I don't think 863 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: anyone on the offensive side of them thinking all defense. 864 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 7: Yep. 865 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Jesse Bates maybe, Yeah, Jesse Bates would be a 866 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 4: good one. Tyler Eifert from twenty fifteen would be a 867 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 4: fun one. 868 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: With offensively, yeah, I think we forget how good that 869 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 2: dude was. Health man yep, just the health Uh. John 870 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: Shearon eight is E Sports standing by to join us 871 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 2: when we return on this the Home of the Bengals, 872 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 873 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 15: Cincinnati, make us the number one pre set on your 874 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 15: car ready and on the free new and improved iHeartRadio 875 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 15: ad Free never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen thirty. 876 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 2: This is Jeff for tri statementy. 877 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: Pike SINCY three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, Sponsoredman Park 878 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: by Cincy shirts, Cincy Shirts, All Cincy all Day. 879 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 5: This is ESPN. 880 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: Fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 881 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 2: Shout out to the folks at Cincy Shirts. Welcome to 882 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: our number two, Cincy three sixty. Thank you for joining us. 883 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 2: Your talkback's coming up in just a few moments. We'll 884 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: still talk some Wes Miller and UC basketball. Later on 885 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: in hour number three, we'll read and react. We'll look 886 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 2: ahead to the college and NFL slate coming up starting 887 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: tonight at the NFL level as well. But before we 888 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 2: do any of that, let's go to our guy from 889 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 2: Ada Z Sports covering the Cincinnati Bengals. John Sharon is 890 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: with us. 891 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 13: What's up, John, Hey, Tony, good to talk to you again, man. 892 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: Always always good to talk to you, John. Before I 893 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 2: even talk to you about the Cincinnati Bengals, how about 894 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Barricks. Are you buying what the Bearcats are 895 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: putting together right now? And are you buying the Bearcats 896 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 2: as Big twelve contenders? 897 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 13: I really don't want to, but I also really really 898 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 13: want to. So you know what, I'm just gonna I'm 899 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 13: just gonna let go. I'm gonna let go. I'm gonna 900 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 13: let them hurt me again. You know I've put off 901 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 13: these walls. They're tearing down right now. I'm just I'm 902 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 13: just going with it. We'll see what they do against 903 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 13: Utah and a coup in I guess a week or so. Yeah, 904 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 13: I'm just like, let's just ride out. Let's just see 905 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 13: what happens. 906 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: Take care of business against a very talented offense on Saturday, 907 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: and uh and see what happens on the road in 908 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: Utah against a good squad. We know what happened last Thursday. 909 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 2: Bengals pick up a win against the Steelers. Joe Flacca 910 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: was amazing. He is now the darling based on his 911 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: press conference from yesterday where it feels like so many 912 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: people can relate to what Joe Flacco was talking about 913 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 2: as it relates to the field. John, where did you 914 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: see the ability for Joe Flacco to have as much 915 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 2: success as he did. 916 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 13: I think the more time on TAC that he had 917 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 13: in practice his receivers, the better the timing was. And 918 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 13: I just think it's so impressive how quickly he was 919 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 13: able to get the ball out of his hands, but 920 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 13: also to be able to push the ball down the 921 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 13: field and hit some of those windows and some of 922 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 13: those in breaking routes to either Jamar Chase or t Higgins, 923 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 13: So the offensive line looked better because the ball was 924 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 13: getting out quicker, but also he knew where where to 925 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 13: go with the ball. And I think that's just what 926 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 13: the Bengals had envisioned with bringing in a new quarterback 927 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 13: instead of Drake Jake grinding someone who played on time 928 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 13: and just he didn't have to be He doesn't have 929 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 13: to be completely accurate, didn't have to have Joe Burrow 930 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 13: type accuracy to make this offense work, but recognizing when 931 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 13: he's got when the receivers have inside leverage and knowing 932 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 13: that you know those windows are going to open up 933 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 13: in a fraction of a second, and getting the ball 934 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 13: out and just still putting it on, you know, on 935 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 13: other guy's hands, like they're some of the best hands 936 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 13: catchers in the NFL. So it's just it's all about 937 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 13: just making sure that you're into on time and in rhythm, 938 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 13: and that's just how you had that success. And obviously, 939 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 13: you know, the Steelers did him a favor by just 940 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 13: spamming man coverage over and over again and just not 941 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 13: really adjusting in that regard, And that's kind of how 942 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 13: that day happened, but I was very impressed by how 943 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 13: well he played on time and in rhythm throughout the 944 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 13: entire game. That's just what allowed the consistencyccesps to keep lowing. 945 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 2: You mentioned the Steelers playing man coverage. I was surprised. 946 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 2: Not only that, but when you think about a team 947 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 2: playing man, you think that they're committing more to the 948 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 2: box to stop the run. And yet Chase Brown ran 949 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 2: for nine point eight yards of carry. They ran it 950 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: as a team for six point two yards per carry. 951 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 2: Anything that you can point to as to why they 952 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 2: were all of a sudden able to find success on 953 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: the ground. 954 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 13: I think the blocking was just better. I think they 955 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 13: found some concepts with flatko under center, because obviously the 956 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 13: Bengals run game with Burrow, it's been mostly in the 957 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 13: pistol around the shotgun because he doesn't have as much 958 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 13: comfort you under center. But Joe Flacko, obviously he's played 959 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 13: a long time, He's been around that scheme a while, 960 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 13: and I think he finds some comfort in it, and 961 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 13: they can kind of marry the pass and run game 962 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 13: a little bit coming out from that formation, and you know, 963 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 13: they were able to kind of stretch steel it out 964 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 13: a little bit horizontally, and I think Donal Ryther had 965 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 13: a good game walking next to round a bround and 966 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 13: that opens up some holes for Chase Brown. So you 967 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 13: know the Steelers, we talked about it with Austin last week. 968 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 13: They're really aggressive and how they defend the run. Sometimes 969 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 13: they can get a little bit over aggressive, and I 970 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 13: think the Bengals just found a nice rhythm and flow 971 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 13: with some of the concepts that they had under center, 972 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 13: and that's what led to that success. It didn't really 973 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 13: matter where in the game it was, or the Bengals 974 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 13: were up, or if they were trailing or anything like that. 975 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 13: I think walking was just better. 976 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 4: You mentioned Dalton Risner. Zach Taylor has not announced or 977 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 4: won't announced exactly who his starting guards are going to be. 978 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 4: Do you expect there to be a short leash for 979 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 4: those guys and the Bengals kind of keep rolling through 980 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 4: whoever they feel like is playing good at the moment. 981 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 17: Yeah. 982 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 13: I was a bit surprised that Riisner got the start 983 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 13: last week, considering that Fairchild. He seemed to be practicing 984 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 13: and able to play. He was active. I think it 985 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 13: was more just the fact that it was a short 986 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 13: week and Fairchild was coming off that knee injury, and 987 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 13: maybe they didn't think they had enough time to actually 988 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 13: practice enough to play. But then Riiser, you know, even 989 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 13: natural left guard, that's where he's played ninety percent of 990 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 13: his snaps, and I think he looked better and there 991 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 13: compared to right guard in some of the first couple 992 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 13: weeks where he was starting. I would imagine that fairy 993 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 13: Child is going to take that spot back now that 994 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 13: he's fully healthy, just because I don't think he was 995 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 13: playing bad enough to warrant being benched, and I think 996 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 13: they value Risner just being the guy that can fill 997 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 13: in either spot in a pinch if some guy gets hurt. 998 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 13: I'm really interested to see in the least with Jannon Rivers. 999 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 13: I think that's a case where they really liked what 1000 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 13: he did in preseason, and then the first chance that 1001 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 13: they felt like he deserved in the regular season in 1002 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 13: Week four, that he got that chance, and I don't 1003 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 13: think they wanted to take him out until maybe something 1004 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 13: drastic happens. But I would imagine that we're going to 1005 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 13: see both rookies out there this week when they're both healthy, 1006 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 13: and maybe it's just about giving Rivers a little bit 1007 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 13: more time to see if he can kind of stabilize himself, 1008 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 13: and if not, then that's where you have Lucas Patrick 1009 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 13: or Dalton Riisers to fill in for that spot. 1010 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 2: One other thing on the offense, and then I'll switch 1011 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 2: it over the defensive side of the ball. You mentioned 1012 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco and the ability to go under center in 1013 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 2: the running game. We've seen this now from different sample sizes. 1014 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 2: When Jake Browning took over years ago, they did found 1015 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: some success, find some success in the running game, and 1016 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 2: a lot of it was drawn to the under center run. 1017 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: I know that Joe Burrow doesn't want to get under 1018 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 2: center much. You watch what he did at LSU. They 1019 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: were rarely ever under center. When it comes down to 1020 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 2: Zach's scheme versus what Joe Burrow wants to do. How 1021 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 2: did those conversations eventually go, Because I wonder if if 1022 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: Zach has tried to do more under center, and you 1023 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 2: speculate as if Joe doesn't want to do that and 1024 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 2: just wants to stay and gun, or how do you 1025 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: think that dynamic works or needs to adapt when Joe 1026 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: Burrow is healthy to find success in the running game. 1027 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 13: Still, you know, Zach Taylor, we knew that he came 1028 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 13: from the seaw Mcbaby coaching tree, and that entire offense 1029 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 13: is just based off of being under center and just 1030 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 13: having blu legs and playofttacking wide zone. And we saw 1031 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 13: that the first year that Taylor was here in twenty 1032 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 13: eighteen with Amy Baldon, and we knew that the offense, 1033 00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 13: like you said that Burrow was coming from with Joe Brady, 1034 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 13: it didn't really feature in that and try to maximize 1035 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 13: the strengths of that offense with its receivers in the 1036 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 13: passing game and the ability for Burrow to examine the 1037 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 13: defense from the gun, to never turn his back from 1038 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 13: what the defense is showing him, and to know where 1039 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 13: the ball is supposed to go at all times, which 1040 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 13: is how he can operate behind a bad offensive line 1041 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 13: and he can just still have an efficient day out 1042 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 13: there even without a reliable running game, because it is 1043 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 13: hard to find a reliable running game when you're never 1044 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 13: under center, right. So that's always been the weird thing 1045 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 13: that they've tried to balance. And I think Taylor in 1046 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 13: his offense is in a scheme, has really adjusted to 1047 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 13: what Burrow does well. But it is hard to sustain 1048 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 13: that success over years and years, because eventually defenses are 1049 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 13: going to be able to pick up on it, and 1050 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 13: it's just easier to defend because there's not as much 1051 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 13: the diversity. It's a lot more predictable to defend against. 1052 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 13: So I think the conversations has always been how can 1053 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 13: they maximize Burrow because he's the most valuable person in 1054 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 13: that building and they want to make sure that he 1055 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 13: plays it as best and he's in a scheme that 1056 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 13: maximizes that. But it's always been a weird thing to 1057 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 13: balance in terms of trying to do what is best 1058 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 13: for just you know, countering what defenses are doing to you, 1059 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 13: but also making sure that you're not putting him in 1060 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 13: a position where he's not like at his best. So 1061 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 13: I think when we see sometimes when different quarterbacks are 1062 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 13: in there and they have different strengths, sometimes we see 1063 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 13: different aspects of the offense, and that's kind of what 1064 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,919 Speaker 13: we're seeing right now. 1065 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: How do you characterize what's going on the defensive side 1066 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: of the ball right now? We have talked for weeks now, 1067 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: John about at times Logan Wilson's snap count, Cam Taylor 1068 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: britt is now a healthy scratch. It feels like at 1069 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 2: points there they're going to the young guys, They're giving 1070 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 2: them as many opportunities as possible, Yet at the same 1071 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 2: time guys are being held accountable. But Gino Stone is 1072 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 2: still playing a lot and he struggled at times. So 1073 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 2: how do you categorize what you're seeing on the defensive 1074 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 2: side of the ball as a whole? With Al Golden, I. 1075 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 13: Don't think it's too dissimilar to when lu Narumo first 1076 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 13: took over. After you know, the coaching change there, we remember, 1077 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 13: like obviously what happeneding Carlo has done that right, Like 1078 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 13: that was a guy that was phased out, someone who 1079 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 13: is well respected in the locker room, and unfortunately, you 1080 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 13: know's diff diference of what the defense the new defensive 1081 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 13: coordinators fall on him. I think that's kind of what 1082 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 13: we're seeing a little bit with Al Golden and Logan 1083 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 13: Wilson and some other guys as well. It came to 1084 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 13: the rec could be another example as well, even though 1085 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,800 Speaker 13: he was benched obviously by the previous if that's the coordinator, 1086 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 13: so again, it's it is still surprising to see what 1087 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 13: is happening with Wilson, But I think that's just the 1088 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 13: reality that they're accepting and they deemed that Bear Carters 1089 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 13: is better in that role. And I think in general, 1090 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 13: the defense is still really trying to find himself and 1091 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 13: just really they're capitalizing on the times when they do 1092 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 13: find the ball and like their best games have been 1093 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 13: when they can capitalize on turnovers and when they can 1094 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 13: you know, really make the most of those opportunities. It 1095 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 13: is still a matter of trying to find consistency in 1096 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 13: terms of getting stops when they need to. That's what 1097 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 13: they did against Pittsburgh at the end of the day 1098 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 13: and at the end of that game, and that's how 1099 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 13: they're able to get their offensive chance to kind of 1100 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 13: win them at the end. But yeah, it's still I 1101 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 13: think very much of a work in progress of figuring 1102 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 13: out which players are best there. And with Gina stone 1103 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 13: it is tough to put a new safety in there 1104 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 13: and try to make sure that the communication is, you 1105 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 13: know what, the same as it is. So, you know, 1106 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 13: I think stone Neat still needs to just prove it 1107 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 13: himself and be more consistent. But it meant something that 1108 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 13: he was he's still here and that they brought him 1109 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 13: back and retained it, even just by the pay cut. 1110 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: I do wonder you know. I saw there's the back 1111 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 2: and forth this week about preparing for Tyrod Taylor or 1112 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 2: preparing for Justin Fields. I know that's difficult, and you 1113 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: can speak to maybe what that challenge presents itself for 1114 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 2: the Bengals and not really knowing who's going to be 1115 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback. But against a team like the Jets who 1116 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: are struggling in the passing game, could you make the 1117 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 2: point that maybe now would be a good opportunity to 1118 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 2: give someone else an opportunity if if it's not the 1119 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,760 Speaker 2: most elite passing game you're going to go against on Sunday. 1120 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 13: I think the counter actually makes a lot more sense 1121 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 13: if you. I mean, obviously there's respect for everybody that 1122 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 13: you go against, right and I don't think the Bengals 1123 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 13: can afford to look anybody in the eyes and say 1124 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 13: we don't respect you. And this is going to be easy, right. 1125 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 13: I think when you're facing a team clearly struggling and 1126 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 13: is trying to find answers, that's a good time to 1127 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 13: really test the guys that need to prove themselves, like, hey, 1128 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 13: like this is an opportunity for you to really shine, 1129 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 13: because admittedly, like this should be a game that you 1130 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 13: should do well against. And I think when it comes 1131 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 13: to Geno Stone and other guys who have a lot 1132 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 13: to prove, this is the time for them to really 1133 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 13: show why they should still be. 1134 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 7: On the field. 1135 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 13: And I think even like last year when the defense 1136 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 13: really ended things on a high note in those final 1137 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 13: five or six games, they did not go against the 1138 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 13: best offenses or the best quarterbacks, but you saw their 1139 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 13: abilities really show themselves in those opportunities. Because sometimes in 1140 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 13: the NFL, when parody is king and everything like that, 1141 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 13: there's still, you know, massive disadvantages that your opponents may 1142 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 13: have to deal with. And I think that could be 1143 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 13: a case this week where you really give some of 1144 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 13: those guys a chance to just just play their hearts 1145 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 13: out and play above what they've been doing so because 1146 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 13: that should be the expectation against teams like the Jets 1147 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 13: who are winless. 1148 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 4: We saw the Bengals struggle to get any type of 1149 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 4: pass rush with Al Trey Hendrickson on Thursday, I expect 1150 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 4: him to be on a bit of a pitch count 1151 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 4: against the Jets. How can they do a better job 1152 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 4: of getting passed rush? Should Al Golden Blitz more When 1153 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson is not on the field or just blitz 1154 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 4: more in general to try to speed up the quarterback. 1155 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 13: It's tough. I feel like these kinds of questions are 1156 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 13: always to ask in the middle of the soon, and 1157 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 13: the answer is that some of these problems needed to 1158 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 13: be solved in March and April, where they just don't 1159 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 13: have like the bodies that can, just like it is 1160 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 13: hard to scheme pass rush when you don't have guys 1161 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 13: who can, like they should be in avotated situations anyways, 1162 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 13: because it's a lot easier being a defensive lineman than 1163 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 13: an offensive lineman. That's just an inherent advantage in today's games, 1164 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 13: despite how quickly the ball is getting out of your hands, 1165 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 13: And if you don't have guys in the building who 1166 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 13: can just win one on one as pass rushers, there's 1167 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 13: not much you can do schematically as a coach to 1168 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 13: get around that. You can try games and stunts and 1169 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 13: blitzes and twists all you want, but teams can also 1170 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 13: adapt to that, and if you just don't win in 1171 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,919 Speaker 13: a quick man or if you don't have the guys 1172 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 13: who can do that, it is really tough in order 1173 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 13: to do that. So that's why it still comes down 1174 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 13: to the players actually performing up to their draft status, 1175 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 13: and that's still not quite what we've seen from the 1176 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 13: most part of the likes of Miles Murphy and Schmarsti 1177 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 13: and everything. And there's still time for those guys to 1178 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 13: continue flashing and turning those slashes into consistency. But that's 1179 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 13: why we're not really seeing it, and it's just not 1180 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 13: that much that the coaches can do. 1181 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: We are a couple weeks away now from the deadline 1182 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 2: fore or trade deadline in the NFL. The Bengals obviously 1183 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: sit at three and four, but a winnable game on Sunday, 1184 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 2: I think the Bears is going to be an interesting matchup. 1185 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: What do you need to see over the next two 1186 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 2: weeks and if you see enough over the next two 1187 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 2: are you buying at the deadline? If you're the Bengals' on. 1188 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 13: The Bengals, I would always be trying to make proactive moves. 1189 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 13: It's just not what I quite expect them to do. 1190 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 13: I think they're only their definition of proactive is, oh, 1191 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 13: a travesty happened in terms of an injury, and we 1192 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 13: need to find a quick solution to that. I think 1193 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 13: that you can equip to what happened with Joe Plato, right. 1194 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 13: I think when the opportunity arises when they can offload 1195 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 13: a player that is no longer a value to them 1196 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 13: for a player that they could find value. We talked 1197 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 13: about Billy Price for bj Hill, right, that could be 1198 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 13: what they look at and maybe a potential Logan Wilson 1199 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 13: type trade. 1200 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 18: Right. 1201 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 13: I think those opportunities are always there and they're always looking, 1202 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 13: But I don't know if I'm really looking for anything 1203 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 13: in the next two weeks in terms of like, yes, 1204 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 13: they need, they absolutely need to be buying here. I 1205 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 13: think if they find ways to win without a reliable 1206 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,959 Speaker 13: pass rush, that's still something that I would like to see, 1207 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 13: but we've yet to really seen them explore that position 1208 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 13: in terms of these deals. But yes, finding additional pass rush, 1209 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 13: whether it be on the edge or the interior, that 1210 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 13: should be somewhat of a priority, just to see, just 1211 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 13: to test the waters, to see if there's anything out 1212 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 13: there that they can get, because I think still this 1213 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 13: defense needs to take that next step and just finding 1214 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 13: a better pass rush. But other than that, I'm not 1215 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 13: really expecting much in terms of them buying regardless of 1216 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 13: the next two weeks. 1217 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Ago John You're the absolute best man. It's so good 1218 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 2: to catch up with you and look forward to doing 1219 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 2: it again next week. What's the easiest way to follow 1220 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 2: along with everything you got going on with your coverage 1221 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: of the Bengals. 1222 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 13: Absolutely a sports dot Com, backslash Cincinnati, Eies Sports Cincinnati 1223 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 13: on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, wherever you get your short form 1224 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 13: video content. 1225 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 5: We're all over the place. 1226 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: Love it, John, Thanks you, John, appreciate you. 1227 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 6: Man. 1228 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 2: Go bear Cats as well. 1229 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 19: Cats. 1230 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Let's go all right, we need to get the talkbacks. Yeah. 1231 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 2: Sorry that long pause there, I uh my microphone on 1232 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 2: my uh headphones unplugged. 1233 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 4: You did that yourself? Yeah, accidentally pulled them? Yeah, I've 1234 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 4: done that, pulled the chair out, and it's a play. 1235 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 4: It's a panic because it goes from just complete silence. 1236 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I did. I don't know if John was 1237 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 2: still talking. I don't know if you said something. So 1238 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 2: there's just awkward silence. Done that, You're like, all right, 1239 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna get the talkbacks. Uh next, even though I 1240 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 2: had no idea what was said in the last four seconds. 1241 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Those are next. Thanks to our friends at CINCI Sharts, 1242 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for listen. Neil the Home of the Bengals 1243 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,919 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Centcinnati Sports Station. 1244 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 20: Now your chance to win up bouts, Go and grab 1245 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 20: your phone and record a message. 1246 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 2: Just hit that microphone. 1247 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 19: Please keep it clean and nope mean and those spreakael 1248 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 19: sprinkle drip drip drifts. 1249 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 5: It's at Tuspert Tompbacks. 1250 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 19: It's duck favorite party since three sixty So Austin buddy, 1251 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 19: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive nowt 1252 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 19: to sabotage it's. 1253 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 2: It's so good, it's refreshing. It almost has a holiday 1254 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 2: type jingle to it as well. Yeah, that's what I 1255 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: think that when I think of like the holidays, much 1256 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: like Joe Flacco. It's a breath of fresh air. 1257 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 13: It really is. 1258 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks to our friends at Sincy Shirts. Uh these 1259 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 2: are talkbacks. 1260 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 21: Shout out to you two Gee's big pimping there at 1261 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 21: the Kinwoods Studios and shout out to the fifth but 1262 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 21: Warriors En. 1263 01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 2: If you do short Army. 1264 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 21: Audi, we can get you a leading show or a 1265 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 21: drive home show actor mo Egger, we can call it 1266 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 21: since the four twenty we sponsored by your local dispentary. 1267 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you make of the we mentioned the 1268 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 2: fist pump yesterday. I use the term alligator arms to 1269 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 2: kind of just because you described the Oh you're pimping 1270 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 2: fist pump. Why no, it's a bump, not a pump. 1271 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Why does no one who's different, Why wouldn't you want 1272 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 2: to extend on a fist pump. I don't know. I 1273 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 2: don't know why that person does. I feel like the 1274 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: best fist pumps are those where both are extended. Yeah, 1275 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 2: and you extend out at the same time. Matt, it 1276 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 2: feels like you're sharing a connection. Yes, it's a moment 1277 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 2: if I've got to reach like Crew far in awkward 1278 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 2: basically gotta put my hand in your pop losing balance. 1279 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 22: Man. 1280 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 23: I do feel bad for Joe Flacco, just sitting here 1281 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 23: thinking about him missing his family and his children, and hell, 1282 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 23: he just made the entire Pittsburgh Steelers secondary his step 1283 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 23: chill an last Thursday and then day up and leave 1284 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 23: town too. 1285 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 13: It's just just. 1286 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Sad feel back for that guy. 1287 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 6: Yep, step children, Hey, Tony, Hey Austin, Jeff and you Richmond. 1288 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 6: Happy Thursday, guys, Hope you've had a great week so far. Tony, 1289 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 6: welcome back to the radio. It's awesome to have you. 1290 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 6: I am really excited about the bearcat scheme this weekend, Tony. 1291 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 6: I'm excited to see you get inducted into the Hall 1292 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 6: of Fame. And finally I might be coming around on 1293 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 6: the Scott Saturday Home an apology. 1294 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: He's doing it. Yep, Wow, cold day in health. It's 1295 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 2: apology season. Whold day in health. Yes, it's apology season. 1296 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 24: Hey, thank you for the kind words yesterday, Evan from Evandale. 1297 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 2: What a nice sentiment. 1298 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 5: Can't we all just get along? 1299 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Unfortunately not today's world. 1300 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 25: Yeah, Tony, I loved the Marshall story yesterday. I put 1301 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 25: a smile on my face. Man, you you want to 1302 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 25: keep a receipt longer than ninety minutes. 1303 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 5: I know you know. 1304 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm sixty one. 1305 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 5: I'm running out of time. 1306 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 25: You still got time. You can be a full flats adult. 1307 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 25: Let's scout out to wem beIN Yamba and edge Combe. 1308 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 26: Yeah. 1309 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 25: I think Jimmy Clausen was a great quarterback in the 1310 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 25: eighth grade. 1311 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 2: He probably was nasty and he had to be, had 1312 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: to be. But yeah, hey, I normally keep her seats 1313 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 2: just Hey, ton I wanted to mention to you yesterday. 1314 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 27: You know I've lived in my house for twenty three 1315 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 27: years with no issues, and the day that Jenna and 1316 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 27: Roman move across the street, my car is stolen. 1317 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 2: What's going on? Is Emmy back in town? See you 1318 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 2: the voice cut? His car stolen? Can I just can 1319 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 2: I tell a story real quick? We're putting we got 1320 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 2: a little brotherhood work. Let me tell you this. So 1321 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 2: uh before today's show, I was at, unfortunately a funeral 1322 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 2: a good, good family friend of ours, Abbie Morgan, who 1323 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: lost her dad, Richard Morgan, who a lot of people 1324 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 2: know here in the city, especially if you're reading or Cincinnati, 1325 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: and a terrible loss. She lost her mother recently as well. 1326 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 2: We had a funeral earlier today for her. And Abby 1327 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 2: has been so awesome to our family that my sister, 1328 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 2: like Abby, lives like two blocks over from where my 1329 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 2: parents live, and we did that benefit for Roman to 1330 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 2: get Roman and my sister somewhere where they can deep 1331 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 2: clean and keep somewhere that's kind of like a place 1332 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 2: for themselves, so she can keep it clean, sanitary and 1333 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 2: not rely on on what everyone else is tracking in. 1334 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 26: And so she is now. 1335 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 2: Renting Abby's parents place. So awesome of Abby to help 1336 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 2: make that happen. But it happens to be right across 1337 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 2: the street from the Voice. The Voice has lived in 1338 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 2: his place for twenty three years, has never had any problems. 1339 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 2: The day that Jenna and the Pikes started moving stuff 1340 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 2: in his car was stolen from his driveway. 1341 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 4: I don't mean to laugh, because I've experienced it myself 1342 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 4: and it sucks. 1343 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 2: There's nothing worse, but he said, from for twenty three years, 1344 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 2: nothing and on the day the Pikes came into the 1345 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 2: neighborhood stolen and I loved it. First thing, let's leave 1346 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 2: a talkback. He was there this morning. He said, I 1347 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 2: hope you know I'm leaving a talkback because the riff 1348 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 2: raft that's coming into the neighborhood can't stand. That's fantastic. 1349 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 9: I just one thing on the Bengals too. 1350 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 7: They just talked about Ted Carris. 1351 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 13: Obviously he's a great dude. 1352 01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,960 Speaker 28: He comes from a great line, great people. 1353 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 9: I mean, besides the fact. 1354 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what he's talking about. He left his 1355 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 4: talkback yesterday too. I'm just not gonna play it. I 1356 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 4: don't know what he's talking about. Later on in the 1357 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 4: in the talkback, I just. 1358 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 2: One thing on the left it again. 1359 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 4: Listen, he's still with his mom, but he left it 1360 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 4: three times according to this all right, we're gonna keep moving. 1361 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Gary del High. 1362 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 29: Hey, shout out to Joe Flacca with one of the 1363 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 29: best Bengals quotes of all time. H On a side note, 1364 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 29: I meant the core earlier, but a couple of weeks ago, 1365 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 29: I tuned in late and I thought, what was Austin 1366 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 29: telling Tony's eulogy? I thought he died. I didn't hear 1367 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 29: the first part of the show. He had to go 1368 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 29: on Twitter and find out he was still alive. But anyway, 1369 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 29: welcome back, Tony, back from the dead. I guess great 1370 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 29: to have you back on the show. 1371 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,799 Speaker 2: I clarified you did about halfway through. I clarified halfways. 1372 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 2: Have you ever seen We're six alive? 1373 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 30: No, never mind, Hey, good afternoon, fellows, run Wisconsin on 1374 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:53,240 Speaker 30: to us, say, I'm glad to hear Tony Springfield Pike 1375 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 30: is back on the air. 1376 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 1377 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 30: Love listening to you guys. 1378 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 2: And uh go Springfield Pike. I like that one too. 1379 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 31: Okay, Hey guys, Hey, anyways, keep my name out your mouth. 1380 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 2: Or I'll pour a bottle down that throat. 1381 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 31: Be Ah. 1382 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means either. 1383 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 16: Tony Austin, Shotty, Austin, did you say a couple of 1384 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 16: days ago that like they should let their kid have 1385 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 16: a choice of what team they root for. Man, you 1386 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 16: really aren't a Bengals fan. Some days you gotta just 1387 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 16: ruin that kid's life and make him a Bengals man. 1388 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 16: Come on, Columbus three to sixty as a finess. That's 1389 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 16: why they took the football away from you, Austin, That's 1390 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 16: why Tony's now Tony pist three sixty. Tony can force 1391 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 16: all his kids to be Bengal fans. 1392 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 2: To be miserable, you won't. 1393 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 4: Wilder's gonna play in the NFL. There is gonna play 1394 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 4: for a different team. 1395 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 2: Have you seen this clip going around about the Jets 1396 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 2: fan who's like a teenager. No, So he's going into 1397 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 2: the game and he's essentially asked, like, you know, why 1398 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 2: are you a Jets fan? He said, I have to be, 1399 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 2: He said, I've been one my whole life. Even though 1400 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: I hate this team. They make me sad, they make 1401 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 2: me miserable, but I'll always be a fan. Yeah, And 1402 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that hits different. I think I get that. 1403 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 4: I think you should allow like give your kids again 1404 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 4: I'm not a parent, so what most people have already 1405 01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 4: stopped listening. Give your kids a chance to choose between 1406 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 4: well run organization. Yeah, like we let Wilder decide the 1407 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 4: Eagles the Packers. You know, some team that is well run, 1408 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 4: highly functional. My wife's a Buckeye fan. I'm a bear Cat. 1409 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 4: I said, Wilder, you could pick whoever you want. He 1410 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 4: despises the Buckeyes, okay, and for that reason, he's going 1411 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 4: to spend a lot of time in the fall, you know, 1412 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 4: just trying to do the math on how he can 1413 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 4: get into the college football playoffs at six to seven wins. 1414 01:10:59,360 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Math is mad. 1415 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 18: I'm in the coffee shop, so I'm trying to whisper 1416 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,879 Speaker 18: the best I can. You know, I'm reading about Socrates 1417 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 18: and trying to understand the meaning of life. I understand 1418 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,519 Speaker 18: my spot in the world. And just goes with the NBA. 1419 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 18: What's going on today and all these crazy charges against 1420 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,519 Speaker 18: these athletes and gambling. Tony Pike, I know you were 1421 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 18: a college athlete when all of it was offshore gambling. 1422 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 18: Did you have any experiences with people asking you to 1423 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 18: throw a certain amount of passes and no prop becks 1424 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 18: and everything weren't as Big twy, not one hundred years ago, 1425 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 18: but fifteen, or if you had any experience people asking 1426 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 18: you about plays. 1427 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 4: You don't have to answer this, I don't you should. 1428 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 4: I would at least wait until you're officially in the hall. 1429 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 4: Should I recuse myself before you answer this question. 1430 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: That new chicken chili from Skyline looks foul? Well, you're oh, 1431 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 2: I get it. Foul like fowl nice. It's awesome play 1432 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,520 Speaker 2: on words. We love Thoset. 1433 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 13: This is a double Please go ahead and delete me. 1434 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 32: I'm just trying to figure out why the Bengals seem 1435 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 32: to never give up on players that have. 1436 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 13: Never shown anything on the field. 1437 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 32: Yet they're put a guy like cam Tiller Britt in 1438 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 32: the doghouse and seemingly not working on his confidence or 1439 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 32: his abilities at all. 1440 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 2: And he's shown it on the field. 1441 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 9: And I know DJ Turner is good. 1442 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 32: Bugs with him and he's getting him to watch film 1443 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 32: with him and trying to keep him motivated. But the 1444 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 32: kit coverage team, really, why are we giving up on 1445 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 32: the guy he's at least shown up before. 1446 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 2: Special teams aren't important. I would say there's probably something 1447 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 2: more to the story that we don't know. I would 1448 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,600 Speaker 2: agree Hello, this. 1449 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 29: Is former President Ronan Regain. 1450 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 27: I'm just sitting here at Skyline in Florence eating a 1451 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,600 Speaker 27: wonderful lunch alone. 1452 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 2: Mister President, mister president, leave me alone. Leave me alone. 1453 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,640 Speaker 23: Man, Man, Somebody go check on Logan Wilson, because that 1454 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 23: was nasty work by John to compare him to Billy Price. 1455 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,439 Speaker 2: I thought, I'm having a rough day. 1456 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 4: Man, Billy Price. Good people. Oh no, you know who 1457 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 4: just went in the Ohio State Hall of Fame, Billy Price. 1458 01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 33: Donny Audie. 1459 01:12:59,320 --> 01:12:59,640 Speaker 34: What up? 1460 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 33: It's a great interview with my man, John Sheer and 1461 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 33: I literally just had him on my podcast yesterday. Everybody 1462 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 33: should be following him at a disease sports. With that 1463 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,120 Speaker 33: being said, like he was talking about with this past rush, 1464 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,640 Speaker 33: I don't know what you do. The only thing that 1465 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 33: we can hope for is maybe Shamar Stewart is the 1466 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,640 Speaker 33: pass rusher we drafted him to be. 1467 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's obviously still time with Shamar, Like 1468 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's hitting the panic button yet, but 1469 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 2: you want to see some production here at some point. 1470 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 35: Yes, Seth and Siems Township. Last week was the best 1471 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,240 Speaker 35: week of my life. It's back to normal now, everything's 1472 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:54,720 Speaker 35: back to same old, same old Boston. I met my 1473 01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 35: second wife at the Oval office. My third wife is 1474 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 35: from Wisconsin Dolls. But anyways, talk to you later. 1475 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 26: Thanks. Thanks, Hey, Tony, it's old man grumpy old up Austin. 1476 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 26: Hello to Tony. I don't know what in the world 1477 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 26: have happened these last couple of weeks, but it was 1478 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 26: sad when you left, and I'm certainly pleased at your back. Austin. 1479 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,759 Speaker 26: This is the week Friday Night Piqua gets its revenge 1480 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 26: against the Yellow Jackets. For all the nonsense you've been 1481 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,440 Speaker 26: talking for years. 1482 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 5: Go in. 1483 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa story for you? 1484 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 28: WHOA. 1485 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 2: I was in high school. We were really bad. I've 1486 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 2: told this before. 1487 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 4: We lost twenty straight games, and one of those twenty 1488 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 4: was a loss at the hands of the pickw Indians, 1489 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,599 Speaker 4: which are our big rival. We are not their rival, 1490 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 4: but they are our rival. It's a little man center, 1491 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 4: but they put up seventy five on us. They could 1492 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 4: if they wanted to Friday Night score one hundred against Sydney. 1493 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 4: I'm whatever the Pickwood team total over is, take it 1494 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,679 Speaker 4: because they are going to beat Sidney to a pulp. 1495 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 2: What was the when the twenty game streak was ended. Yeah, 1496 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 2: what was the what was the aftermath? 1497 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:16,960 Speaker 34: Like? 1498 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 4: Oh man, it was legit like this. I know this 1499 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 4: is gonna sound ridiculous. It was one of the best 1500 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 4: days of my life. 1501 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1502 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 4: I couldn't even play though I had a broken arm. 1503 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 4: But Andre Spillers kicked the game winning field goal in 1504 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 4: overtime on the roads to uh the Custodian. We called 1505 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 4: him the Custodian, Andre Spillers, and uh he cleaned up 1506 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,960 Speaker 4: the mess and uh put us back into w column. 1507 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 2: And then we beat Belle Fountain next week, So we 1508 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 2: go from Fountain. I thought it was Bellefonte, not even close. 1509 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: Bell Fountain. 1510 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 4: We'd lost twenty straight and then rebounded with back to back. Yeah, 1511 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 4: you better watch out here come the Jackets finished four 1512 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 4: and eight after that or whatever? 1513 01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,600 Speaker 2: What about twenty thirteen? Vontees perfect? Get him back to 1514 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 2: the Bengals. I still think I'm Cadell Thurman over him. 1515 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 13: It's a good one, Tony. 1516 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 32: I top in Virginia. Really great to have you all together. 1517 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 32: Got a question, Tony that I'd never thought i'd ask. Okay, 1518 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 32: is Brandon soarsby a Hasman candidate? This is legit, This 1519 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,880 Speaker 32: is for real boys playing out of his mind. Love 1520 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 32: to hear your take. Thanks, guys, go cat. 1521 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 4: I think who's the favorite to win the Heisman right now? 1522 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 4: Let me pull up the current Heisman odds because it's 1523 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 4: not Jeremiah Love and it's not Arch Manning. 1524 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 2: It shouldn't be. Julian saying, not yet right now, Ty Simpson, Oh, 1525 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 2: the kids from Alabama. Fernando Mendoza, all right, who's he 1526 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 2: played for? He's the Indiana quarterback, okay, Julian saying his 1527 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 2: third Oh, Diego Pavia interesting is currently fourth. Okay, let 1528 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,679 Speaker 2: me see if they even have They have Gunner Stockton 1529 01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,679 Speaker 2: listed as fifth. 1530 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 4: I think if you're going to put all those guys 1531 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,080 Speaker 4: on the list, you can at least put Sorsby on. 1532 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 2: Sworsby right now is plus ten thousand, okay, sprinkle sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle, 1533 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 2: drip drip, Hey, Mike an Independence. 1534 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 36: I know, earlier in the show, you guys talking about 1535 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 36: Baltimore's chances of making the playoffs, and I don't think 1536 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 36: Lamar is gonna be playing this week. I know he's 1537 01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 36: taken reps at practice, but I think they're you know, 1538 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 36: second string reps, not with the first team. 1539 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 2: From what I understand it, could. 1540 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 37: Be wrong on that. 1541 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 2: And then mister Pip, you're a fifth bump guy. 1542 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 9: Doesn't he listen to the show? 1543 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 36: Sure he figured out by now you are talking about 1544 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 36: them during the last two shows listen. 1545 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,560 Speaker 2: He definitely does not listen. There's there's not a guarantee 1546 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 2: that even if you work in this so there are 1547 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 2: some people that may work here that don't even know 1548 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 2: this shows on from noon to three. 1549 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is what just yesterday, somebody thought 1550 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 4: that we go on at twelve oh six. They thought 1551 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,720 Speaker 4: we had the same clocks as the other stations. We don't, yep, 1552 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,439 Speaker 4: So which might just be beautiful peak into our world. 1553 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 38: Tony Austin, Why is nobody noting that Shamar Steward. 1554 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 2: Is coming off an injury? 1555 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 38: I said that, you know, maybe he just wasn't able 1556 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 38: to really go on and maybe he can be that 1557 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 38: past rush disruption we need. 1558 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 13: I kind of think he's got that in him, for. 1559 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 2: Sure, He's got that dog. Ian puts your ears on, 1560 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,919 Speaker 2: big boy, you think he's got that dog said that already. 1561 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,639 Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart on the season less tackles than Jamar Chase. 1562 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 2: For sure, he has two tackles on the year. Uh, 1563 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,680 Speaker 2: Now he's only played in three games, so I get 1564 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,839 Speaker 2: that that he doesn't has not had a lot of opportunities. Correct, 1565 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 2: it was our last one. Let me see some more, 1566 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 2: give me a little bit more. Let's look at what's 1567 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 2: coming up on the weekend ahead, college and NFL coming 1568 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,800 Speaker 2: up next. He SPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station with. 1569 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,640 Speaker 28: Dave Lapham's enshrinement into the Bengals Ring of Honor. We 1570 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 28: pay tribute to the life of lap presented by Skyline. 1571 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:13,280 Speaker 2: Feeling good against Skyline Time. Now here's Dan and d Lap. 1572 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 27: You were the starting left guard in the Bengals first 1573 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 27: Super Bowl appearance. Describe running out of the tunnel to 1574 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 27: face the forty nine ers that day in Detroit. 1575 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 39: Man, I don't think my feet at the ground one time. Really, 1576 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 39: it was such a surreal experience. I mean, putting on 1577 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 39: cloud nine. I was definitely on cloud nine, maybe ninety nine. 1578 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 39: It was amazing. Thing I remember most about that year, 1579 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,759 Speaker 39: not that family wasn't a big part of the football, 1580 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 39: In playing football, they obviously really were excited about watching 1581 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 39: me play at whatever level it was high school, college 1582 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 39: or NFL. But to play in the Super Bowl, and 1583 01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 39: I remember my grandfather saying I cannot believe and I'm 1584 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 39: watching a grandson of mine play in the Super Bowl 1585 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 39: in the National Football League? 1586 01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 26: What is going on? 1587 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 28: For more on the life laugh, keep it here on 1588 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,320 Speaker 28: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals 1589 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:07,799 Speaker 28: at Genesis Diamonds. 1590 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 2: We tell you the inside secrets. 1591 01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 1: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you by 1592 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 1: bug Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of 1593 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. 1594 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome back. Football in the NATI is right thanks 1595 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 2: to Cincy Shirts as well. Whatever type of football you're 1596 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 2: wanting to watch this weekend, college, NFL or football with 1597 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,040 Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati, you can go to Cinci Shirts and they 1598 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 2: can get you fitted for everything you need for game day. 1599 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,519 Speaker 2: Visit Cincishirts dot com or head to the Loveland or 1600 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 2: Fort Mitchell location and get yourself fitted up for game day. Now, 1601 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:49,560 Speaker 2: do it now. College and NFL Slate coming up. We 1602 01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 2: mentioned Thursday Night Football Tonight Austin. As you look through 1603 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 2: a week eight schedule in the National Football League, any 1604 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:03,320 Speaker 2: specific games stand out to you, like is Buffalo? Are 1605 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 2: people at all worried about Buffalo at four and two? 1606 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 4: I think Buffalo fans are worried about their offense. I 1607 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,639 Speaker 4: don't know league wide that anyone's really worried about them. Yeah, 1608 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 4: back to back of trust that they'll figure it out. 1609 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean that their wins, they put up forty one, thirty, 1610 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 2: thirty one and thirty one back to back losses, scoring 1611 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: twenty and fourteen. They do go to Carolina and take 1612 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 2: on the upstart four and three Carolina Panthers this weekend. 1613 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 4: Andy Dalton lead Panthers can't be out for a smidge 1614 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,960 Speaker 4: due to a high ankle sprain. But outside of that, 1615 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the big one is Green Bay and Pittsburgh. 1616 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,519 Speaker 4: I want to see Aaron Rodgers up against the Packers. 1617 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 4: Packers have changed. They're now going to wear their all 1618 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 4: white uniforms because of too much yellow on the field 1619 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,839 Speaker 4: because of the Steelers wearing their throwbacks with the yellow helmets. 1620 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 4: Outside of that, though, I really am not that interesting. 1621 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 2: Commander's Chiefs loses a little bit because Daniels is out. 1622 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels isn't playing. To me, it's it's how does 1623 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,760 Speaker 4: Baltimore look against Chicago And obviously looking ahead of the 1624 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 4: Bengals playing Chicago next week, how those two teams face. 1625 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 2: Enough, I'm looking about that game more about Chicago than Baltimore. 1626 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, okay, fair enough. Yeah, Baltimore is still six 1627 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 4: and a half point favorites, which I'm still confused by. 1628 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,599 Speaker 4: But it does look like Lamar's coming back. And then 1629 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,520 Speaker 4: charge Giants for real? Okay, they are going into Philadelphia 1630 01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 4: against the Eagles, who aren't great right now. They do 1631 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 4: this every year. They go through this low where they're 1632 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 4: trying to figure it out and then they get hot 1633 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,920 Speaker 4: towards the end of the season. So can Jackson Dart 1634 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,560 Speaker 4: rebound from costing his team the game last week? And 1635 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,640 Speaker 4: can they go into Philly and win? And if they do, 1636 01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 4: I think the NFC East becomes a lot more interesting. 1637 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:42,679 Speaker 2: When does maction start? 1638 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 17: Is that soon? 1639 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 2: I think it already? 1640 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 5: Did? 1641 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 7: Oh? 1642 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 2: Really? Okay? The RedHawks take on Western Michigan at Yager 1643 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 2: Stadium on Saturday. I know there's a bunch of Tuesday games. Yes, 1644 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot going on. Does UCLA keep this ride? 1645 01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 2: Do they keep things close against Indiana? 1646 01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 35: No? 1647 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: Twenty five and a half is comfortable. No, Old Miss 1648 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,080 Speaker 2: Oklahoma feels like a playoff elimination game. Would you agree 1649 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 2: it would be both teams second loss in the SEC. 1650 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 2: Are we surprised that Oklahoma is favored by five and 1651 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 2: a half, Yes, that is surprising to me. A lot 1652 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 2: of buzz Austin as a playoff contender outside of that 1653 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,559 Speaker 2: power grouping South Florida, I think this is a tricky 1654 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 2: one for him. They're only four and a half point 1655 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 2: road favorites, but they head into Memphis. If South Florida 1656 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 2: takes care of business against Memphis, I don't know if 1657 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 2: they lose the rest of the way. I think this 1658 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 2: is their toughest remaining game. South Florida's good. I mean, 1659 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,639 Speaker 2: they are a talented, talented team. That's a game of note. 1660 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 2: Remember how much buzz South Carolina had to start the year. 1661 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,120 Speaker 2: That's all gone. They're one and four in the SEC. 1662 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 2: And remember how much negativity was around the Alabama football program. 1663 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,679 Speaker 2: All of a sudden four and zero in the SEC. 1664 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,839 Speaker 2: Fourth ranked team in the country, Missouri travels to Vanderbilt. 1665 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 2: I would say I would say that as well. Austin 1666 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 2: as an elimination game for the playoffs. Both teams with 1667 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 2: one loss fifteen verse number ten BYU, the eleventh ranked 1668 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 2: team in the nation and undefeated in the Big twelve 1669 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 2: goes to Iowa State. B yu's got back to back 1670 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:23,000 Speaker 2: road trips at Iowa State at Texas Tech. That's a 1671 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 2: tough stretch right there. Wisconsin team total seven and a 1672 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 2: half travels to Aughtson Stadium to take on Oregon. That's 1673 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 2: a thirty one and a half point number. Texas A 1674 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 2: and M and LSU another big one over the weekend. 1675 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,000 Speaker 2: Texas A and M is a favorite. That's the third 1676 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 2: ranked Texas A and M team in the country. If 1677 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:49,720 Speaker 2: LSU loses this, austin validitally, Brian Kelly might lose his job. 1678 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 2: I hope. So yeah, I want to start rooting for 1679 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 2: LSU again. I can't do it with him at the Helm. 1680 01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 2: The Louisville coming off a win over number two Miami 1681 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: host Boston College, Michigan Michigan State, Kentucky welcomes Tennessee to 1682 01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:08,000 Speaker 2: the Commonwealth as well, and UH Arizona State, rounding out 1683 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 2: the top twenty five slate host six and one Houston, 1684 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,599 Speaker 2: Ohio State gotta buy this week they do. Okay, what's 1685 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 2: their remaining schedule? U Penn State, But yeah, that loses 1686 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of luster. Yeah, it's not quite the same. 1687 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 2: UH and then I don't Purdue. 1688 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 5: You see. 1689 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 2: Game focus on one game at the time, getting ready 1690 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 2: for the Nitney Lions and yeah, all that sort of 1691 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,240 Speaker 2: who's coaching them now? Knowles, I don't know what a 1692 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,680 Speaker 2: fall from grace that guy's had. 1693 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, like I outside of like a little 1694 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,920 Speaker 4: bit of Ohio State and paying attention to you see, 1695 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,799 Speaker 4: I feel very disconnected to the rest of college football. 1696 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,360 Speaker 4: Like I've obviously been watching the Big Twelve because of 1697 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 4: the NFL Ohio State a little bit. Yeah, I mean 1698 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,439 Speaker 4: I've been I've been down in the NFL. But all right, 1699 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:08,040 Speaker 4: college football it's tough for me because there's it's tough 1700 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,920 Speaker 4: to follow because I don't know any of the players 1701 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 4: anymore because they jump around everywhere and the sec every 1702 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,599 Speaker 4: team is the exact same, so you never know what's 1703 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 4: going to happen on a week to week basis, which 1704 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 4: is entertaining at the very least. But like there's more 1705 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 4: the regular season feels less important. 1706 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more parody, but I think there's validity to 1707 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,719 Speaker 2: what the voice said yesterday when he called in about Xavier. 1708 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 2: So he was listening in the car the other day 1709 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 2: and baskets were being made and he's listening to Byron 1710 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 2: and Joe and didn't know if the basket was made 1711 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 2: by Xavier or the other team. Like it's hard to 1712 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,759 Speaker 2: follow now, Yeah, it's it's a lot different in today's 1713 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 2: day and age of college athletics. 1714 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,479 Speaker 4: And not every school has like a dedicated beat reporter 1715 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 4: that is there every day and can make it easy 1716 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,000 Speaker 4: to at least in my opinion. 1717 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, phyllbe I'm wrong. Let's uh, let's finish 1718 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 2: up our number two. When we come back. We'll close 1719 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 2: the door on hour two. We've got west Miller audio 1720 01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,000 Speaker 2: an hour three, We've got some read and react in 1721 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,479 Speaker 2: our number three, and we've got your phone calls five one, three, seven, 1722 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. All still ahead on this the Thursday edition 1723 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 2: of since E three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 1724 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 2: Sports Station. 1725 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,360 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN 1726 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,480 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1727 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,360 Speaker 5: Don't us here every show at ESPN fifteen thirty dot 1728 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 5: com NA A strong one. 1729 01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 2: I gotta have some fun tonight. This welcome back, finishing 1730 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 2: up our number two, Since the three sixty home of 1731 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. We'll grab 1732 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 2: some phone calls in our number three five, one, three, seven, 1733 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. How about this, Austin, I saw this. 1734 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Kirk Kurbstreet was talking about this just a few moments ago. 1735 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 2: Veteran SEC official Ken Williamson has been permanently suspended from 1736 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,679 Speaker 2: officiating conference games. The decision to remove the longtime referee 1737 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 2: comes in the immediate wake of an SEC review of 1738 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 2: eleven complaints against Williamson and his crew during the Auburn 1739 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,480 Speaker 2: Georgia game earlier this month. Nine of those complaints were validated. 1740 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 2: This is something Austin we've not seen much of, Kirk 1741 01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 2: Krbstreet said, I can't remember seeing something like this happening 1742 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,160 Speaker 2: in the middle of the season. It's an eye opener 1743 01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 2: and interested to see what this leads to. 1744 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:41,800 Speaker 9: Now. 1745 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 2: We've talked for years about the accountability for officials. Like 1746 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: the officials, I've always thought for years they should have 1747 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 2: to ask answer questions after games, just like players and 1748 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 2: coaches should. 1749 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,720 Speaker 4: Well, they do talk to the pool report, right, at 1750 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 4: least in the NFL they do. I don't know if 1751 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,839 Speaker 4: they do that in college football. 1752 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 2: It's rare. I do think that this happens. 1753 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,080 Speaker 4: It's rare that we hear about it now, A full 1754 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,479 Speaker 4: fledged suspension where a guy just stops working. Maybe not, 1755 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 4: Maybe we don't hear about that, or maybe that doesn't 1756 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,160 Speaker 4: happen as frequently. But I mean, I know that they're scolded, 1757 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 4: I know that they're graded, I know that they're talked 1758 01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 4: to about their performances. It must have been pretty egregious 1759 01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 4: to do this. 1760 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 2: That was my thought. 1761 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,599 Speaker 4: I also wonder too, in the light of everything that's 1762 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,240 Speaker 4: happening in the NBA right now, you have to be 1763 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 4: on top of this, yep. With your officials, even if 1764 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 4: they're not doing anything bad, you cannot create the image 1765 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 4: that this person may or may not be connected to gambling. 1766 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 1767 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 4: That was part of the deal you signed up with 1768 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,120 Speaker 4: when you got into bed with these companies, is that 1769 01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 4: everybody's going to have to be cleaned up. And even 1770 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,800 Speaker 4: if what's his name, Ken Williamson, Yes, even if he's 1771 01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,120 Speaker 4: not involved in gambling whatsoever. If you even show the 1772 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,720 Speaker 4: perception that you're so bad at your job that that 1773 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,200 Speaker 4: conversation starts popping up, you got to get. 1774 01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 2: Rid of that. Yeah, that was a game at one 1775 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,600 Speaker 2: point that Auburn led ten to nothing eventually lost the 1776 01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 2: game twenty to ten. Eleven penalties for one hundred and 1777 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,040 Speaker 2: three yards were called on Auburn in that game, six 1778 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 2: penalties for sixty yards were called on Georgia. Again, if 1779 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 2: if nine of the eleven complaints made were kind of 1780 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:35,320 Speaker 2: cooperated by by those that listen to those complaints, I 1781 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 2: would say that that is substantial and something we have 1782 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,439 Speaker 2: definitely not seen a lot of. And to your point 1783 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 2: with where sports gambling is and where that looks like, 1784 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,559 Speaker 2: I think it's something we might see more and more of, because, 1785 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, you can't give the you can't give 1786 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,360 Speaker 2: any indication that something like that is happening or could 1787 01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 2: even happen in today's sports world. Let's take a break 1788 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 2: our three your phone calls, Read and React Coming up 1789 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 2: next on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty 1790 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,599 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. More than a few of our patients 1791 01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 2: have talked to me. 1792 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, 1793 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: sponsored in hard by Penn Station East Coast Subs, hand 1794 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,160 Speaker 1: crept It Hot grilled subs, fresh cut fries in Lemonade, 1795 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,879 Speaker 1: it's all about good taste. Penn Station East Coast subs 1796 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:34,439 Speaker 1: orderum line today. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1797 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 5: Here we go. 1798 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 2: It is the third and final hour of today's show. 1799 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, Thank you for being a part 1800 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 2: of it. We'll get to your phone calls in just 1801 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 2: a few moments. We'll check in with mo Ager as 1802 01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,360 Speaker 2: we go at the end of our number three and 1803 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,560 Speaker 2: quick kits. But for now, we do this each and 1804 01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:02,280 Speaker 2: every Thursday. It's called Read and React. Austin, what do 1805 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 2: we have for this week as it pertains to Jets 1806 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,280 Speaker 2: the Bengals. We got four of them. 1807 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 4: Jets, Bengals, Insights from our friends at NFL Pro and 1808 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 4: next Jin stats. 1809 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 2: Are you prepared? Let's go? All right? 1810 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:20,719 Speaker 4: Let's start with Jamar Chase and T Higgins. Jama, Jamar 1811 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,200 Speaker 4: and t have each averaged over twice as many receptions 1812 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,960 Speaker 4: per game and receiving yards per game with Joe Flacco 1813 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,759 Speaker 4: as the starter, then with Jake Browning as the starter. 1814 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 4: Chase has averaged one hundred and one hundred and twenty 1815 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 4: seven point five receiving yards per game. He had sixty 1816 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:45,519 Speaker 4: one with Browning. Higgins has averaged seventy nine receiving yards 1817 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,759 Speaker 4: per game with Flacco as the starter. He had twenty 1818 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,040 Speaker 4: three with Browning. 1819 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 2: Man your reaction, I go back immediately to what we 1820 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:58,160 Speaker 2: heard from Joe Flacco today talking about he's still learning, 1821 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,640 Speaker 2: he's still working on the call, but his goal is 1822 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:06,799 Speaker 2: to play fast and simplify things at the very simplest form, Austin, 1823 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,560 Speaker 2: what gives you, as a quarterback on the Bengals the 1824 01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,200 Speaker 2: most chance to succeed. Get the ball out of your hands, 1825 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,640 Speaker 2: Get the ball out of your hands and throw it 1826 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 2: to those two guys. And as lucrative as it's been 1827 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 2: for Jamar Chase and you could argue it's helped Jamar 1828 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,080 Speaker 2: more than anyone, how big has this been for t Higgins? 1829 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,639 Speaker 2: You said twenty three yards per game with Jake Browning, 1830 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,400 Speaker 2: twenty three yards per game with Jake Browning to the 1831 01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:35,600 Speaker 2: guy you just gave that contract to. Like that to me, 1832 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 2: this is I think a good spot for T Higgins. 1833 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,559 Speaker 2: Jamar AFC Offensive Player of the Week sixteen catches, twenty 1834 01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 2: three targets. Sauce Gardner likely not going to play in 1835 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 2: this game. You're down your starting corner. You're not going 1836 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,080 Speaker 2: to go man against Jamar Chase. You're gonna send help 1837 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 2: to him. I think, Austin, this is a big week 1838 01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,880 Speaker 2: for T Higgins. Joe Flack understands double teams. He obviously 1839 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,800 Speaker 2: understands brackets and what defense are trying to take away. 1840 01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,759 Speaker 2: I think this is one of those vintage T. Higgins 1841 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,360 Speaker 2: games where a lot of the attention goes to Chase 1842 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 2: and Higgins thrives. 1843 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned man coverage. That's the subject of our 1844 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 4: next insight. The Jets have played man coverage at the 1845 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:22,280 Speaker 4: seventh highest rate in the NFL oh thirty five point 1846 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,120 Speaker 4: eight percent of the time, and they have allowed six 1847 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:29,160 Speaker 4: point nine yards per play when they are in man coverage. 1848 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:33,559 Speaker 4: That's the seventh highest amount of yards per play. Entering 1849 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,639 Speaker 4: Week seven, Jamar Chase was targeted on just twenty one 1850 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,520 Speaker 4: percent of his routes against man coverage, and he averaged 1851 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 4: less than a yard per route, the third lowest mark 1852 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,400 Speaker 4: among receivers with at least fifty routes run against man 1853 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 4: coverage this season. However, in Week seven, Chase was targeted 1854 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,599 Speaker 4: on half of his routes against man coverage, twelve targets 1855 01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 4: on twenty four routes, totaling eight for seventy six yards 1856 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 4: and a touchdown against man coverage. 1857 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:10,200 Speaker 2: I think so much of the struggles of Chase. I 1858 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 2: hate to do it because it's the easy target, but 1859 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 2: I put more on Jake Browning ball placement, timing, when 1860 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 2: the ball's coming out. I look more at what Chase 1861 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,880 Speaker 2: did last week. And we've mentioned a lot. Why did 1862 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh stay in man to man? Maybe because Pittsburgh was 1863 01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,720 Speaker 2: going off those insights as well. Maybe that's what they 1864 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,760 Speaker 2: were reading into and they obviously didn't react during the game. Look, 1865 01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter manners own. Jamar is gonna have success. 1866 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,800 Speaker 2: It's just how can you mitigate that success that he has. 1867 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,280 Speaker 2: What I think is interesting, Austin, you said the Jets 1868 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,600 Speaker 2: play man at the seventh highest rate. That's correct, but 1869 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,639 Speaker 2: they allow the seventh most yards per play win in man. 1870 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 4: Correct, And as you mentioned a moment ago, I'm gonna 1871 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 4: have Sauce Gardner this this week more than more than 1872 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:57,559 Speaker 4: likely not gonna happen. 1873 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, by all reasons, then that number has to go 1874 01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,720 Speaker 2: way down. You would think there's no way, there's no way, 1875 01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,000 Speaker 2: seeing what the Bengals did against man last week, knowing 1876 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 2: that you might be without Sauce Gardner and you're giving 1877 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 2: up the seventh most yards per playing man. No chance 1878 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 2: you go against this Bengals team and Joe Flacco and 1879 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 2: play man. 1880 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 4: And after what we saw last week, especially towards the 1881 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 4: end of the game, if you go man, I mean, 1882 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:20,559 Speaker 4: Flacco's just gonna tuck it and run. 1883 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,000 Speaker 2: It's just gonna take off your back to him. That's it. 1884 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,200 Speaker 2: You blink a couple times and he's gone two more. 1885 01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 2: Let's go to the defensive side of the ball. 1886 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,519 Speaker 4: In Week seven, without Trey Hendrickson, the Bengals averaged a 1887 01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:39,080 Speaker 4: time to pressure of three point two seconds, their longest 1888 01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 4: time to pressure of the season and nearly half a 1889 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 4: second longer than their average entering the week, which was 1890 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,719 Speaker 4: two point seven to four. Entering Week seven, Hendrickson accounted 1891 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,080 Speaker 4: for twenty four point seven percent of the Bengals pressures, 1892 01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 4: generating twenty total. Joseph Osai now leads the team with 1893 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:03,479 Speaker 4: twenty one pressures entering week eight. The next closest Bengals 1894 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 4: defender is bj Hill, who has generated ten pressuresy. 1895 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,519 Speaker 2: I think that encapsulates every single thing we've talked about 1896 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,599 Speaker 2: this week about the Bengals defense and where they struggle 1897 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,600 Speaker 2: for what it's worth. The average time to pressure in 1898 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 2: the NFL is about two point eight seconds. A quick 1899 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:29,240 Speaker 2: pressure is defined in the NFL as two point five seconds. 1900 01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 2: To put that into perspective, the average time to throw 1901 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,439 Speaker 2: in a clean pocket for quarterbacks about one point four seconds. 1902 01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 2: So three point two zero not good enough. What was 1903 01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 2: more demoralizing about the three point two zero, Austin, is 1904 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:48,560 Speaker 2: it came against Aaron Rodgers, forty one years old, not 1905 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,600 Speaker 2: nearly as mobile as he used to, and he was 1906 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 2: able to stand in the pocket and dance around as 1907 01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 2: long as he wanted. That is a staggering, staggering statistic, 1908 01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,679 Speaker 2: and it's an indictment on everyone on this defensive line 1909 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,759 Speaker 2: not named Trey Hendrickson. And we did talk Joseph Osias 1910 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,920 Speaker 2: twelfth in the NFL in pressures. He's not getting home 1911 01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:11,240 Speaker 2: nearly enough. But they're just not putting multiple pressures together. 1912 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 2: On any given play. You might get one guy to win, 1913 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 2: you might not. They rushed three a lot last week. Also, Austin, 1914 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 2: does you you watch a lot of football? I watch 1915 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 2: a lot of football. Do you see as any other 1916 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,680 Speaker 2: teams dropping defensive ends in lineman into coverage as much 1917 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 2: as we see from the Bengals. I don't know if 1918 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,640 Speaker 2: i'd say I see it as much. I do see it, 1919 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,400 Speaker 2: You'll see it, but not I mean that much is incredible. 1920 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:40,320 Speaker 4: I know Joe Barry, who was one of my biggest 1921 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:42,880 Speaker 4: fears on Planet Earth last year at the Bengals hiring 1922 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,439 Speaker 4: Joe Barry, Yeah, I think he's with the Dolphins now 1923 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,320 Speaker 4: that he used to do that a lot with the Packers. 1924 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 26: But no, I don't. 1925 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,160 Speaker 4: I don't see it as much maybe as I do 1926 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,720 Speaker 4: with the Bengals. And again I think that is a 1927 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 4: reflection of the personnel. 1928 01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I think Al Golden is trying to figure 1929 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,680 Speaker 2: something out. Yeah, you can tell that by personnel. You 1930 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 2: could tell by scheme. You can tell by who they're 1931 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 2: starting and who they're benching there. They're just I like 1932 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 2: that they're operating with urgency, but there's not a lot 1933 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,559 Speaker 2: of rhyme or reason to back it up right now. 1934 01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 4: And going back to the conversation with John Sheer, and 1935 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,599 Speaker 4: I asked if he thinks the Bengals should blitz more 1936 01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,120 Speaker 4: just because of how much they have struggled to get home. 1937 01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,640 Speaker 4: And I think it's difficult when you don't have a 1938 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 4: ton of faith in Geno Stone to be in the 1939 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 4: right position, and Jordan Battle to be in the right position, 1940 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,320 Speaker 4: Cam Taylor Britt and Josh Newton and Marco Wilson and 1941 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,000 Speaker 4: that disaster on that side of the field. You really 1942 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:41,160 Speaker 4: have confidence in Dax Hill and Dj Turner. That's like 1943 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,080 Speaker 4: the only people you feel confident and especially if you're 1944 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 4: gonna be playing two rookie linebackers, and so that makes 1945 01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,360 Speaker 4: it more difficult to blitz. One of your best blitzers 1946 01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,559 Speaker 4: is Dax Hill, and do you really want to take 1947 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,960 Speaker 4: him out of coverage. So it is again looking at 1948 01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 4: the personnel that the Bengals have. This is beating a 1949 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,320 Speaker 4: dead horse over and over and over again. But it's 1950 01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 4: a fact of the matter. They don't have good enough 1951 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 4: players to be able to do exactly what Al Golden 1952 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,000 Speaker 4: wants to do or maybe what would be best for 1953 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:12,679 Speaker 4: the defense. Yeah, final one, and to your previous point 1954 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:16,560 Speaker 4: about a potential get right game for this defense, the 1955 01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 4: Jets starting offensive line of Fashanu Simpson, Myers and Tipman 1956 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:27,559 Speaker 4: and membu Oh has played a league high ninety seven 1957 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,879 Speaker 4: point four percent of plays together. 1958 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 31: Wow. 1959 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:31,240 Speaker 2: This season. 1960 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 4: Some continuity on that line, however, they have allowed a 1961 01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 4: pressure on nearly half of the Jets dropbacks forty nine 1962 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 4: point eight percent of dropbacks. That's the second highest mark 1963 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 4: among offensive line combinations who have played at least one 1964 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:48,719 Speaker 4: hundred snaps together. 1965 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 2: Well, if not this week, then win because you know 1966 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,799 Speaker 2: we've said a lot of the year Austin Shamar Stewart 1967 01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:00,679 Speaker 2: Legacy game. Well, we've set a lot of the season 1968 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,280 Speaker 2: just bad matchups, bad matchups. This isn't a bad matchup. 1969 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,880 Speaker 2: This is a matchup where you should be able to 1970 01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 2: win more often than not. And if you go up 1971 01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:15,000 Speaker 2: against an offensive line who is giving up pressures on 1972 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 2: nearly half of their dropbacks and you can't find a 1973 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,560 Speaker 2: way to get home consistently on Sunday, I don't know 1974 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 2: how you figure it out. If you're out Golden with 1975 01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,479 Speaker 2: the current roster makeup, you would have to go get 1976 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 2: help because there's nothing that can overcome a like that. 1977 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 2: And I think the reason they highlight the continuity. There's 1978 01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,320 Speaker 2: an a lot of offensive lines where you're just rotating 1979 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:38,880 Speaker 2: guys and you're trying to figure out the five, you're 1980 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:42,360 Speaker 2: dealing with injuries. These guys have been together and they 1981 01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:47,080 Speaker 2: still stink like you got to win. You got to 1982 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:53,160 Speaker 2: win matchups this weekend. Let's read and react Bengals Jets. 1983 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 2: Let's react to what a phone call has to say. 1984 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 2: John is calling in. What's up John? 1985 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 5: So the room fell us? 1986 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:01,400 Speaker 2: How are you good? 1987 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:01,720 Speaker 16: How are you? 1988 01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:03,760 Speaker 13: We're hanging in there. 1989 01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 24: That clip that you retweeted yesterday with Flacco was awesome. 1990 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 24: He is such a likable feels like just a normal 1991 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,360 Speaker 24: guy that you know, goes through things like any forty 1992 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 24: year old with kids and the wife and the career 1993 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 24: and kind of juggling at all. And I think he's 1994 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,720 Speaker 24: a breath of fresh air. And I really hope that 1995 01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 24: he stays on as a backup going forward, even in 1996 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,120 Speaker 24: the next year, because I think it'd be great for 1997 01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 24: Joe Burrow to have a veteran quarterback like that who 1998 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,360 Speaker 24: in a pinch can come in for a game or 1999 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 24: half and do such a great job. But also maybe 2000 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,880 Speaker 24: to be kind of like a big brother to him 2001 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 24: and maybe talk some sentence him in terms of you know, look, 2002 01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 24: it's better that you get under center somewhat. This offense 2003 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 24: is very quarterback friendly, and this is to keep you 2004 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,640 Speaker 24: upright and look at what we can do with you 2005 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,680 Speaker 24: hundred center rather than just being in the gun. And 2006 01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 24: I know compared Burrow a lot to Brady. He's got 2007 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,719 Speaker 24: a little Aaron Rodgerson too, in terms of he's extremely smart, 2008 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,320 Speaker 24: maybe a little stubborn, and do we know smart people 2009 01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 24: could be tough to move off of the way they feel. 2010 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:03,880 Speaker 24: So maybe this could be a breat thefeshal air and 2011 01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 24: get him to be a little bit more simplified in 2012 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,439 Speaker 24: the offense. You talked about that with flack of simple 2013 01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,240 Speaker 24: and quick. Well, I would like to see more of 2014 01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,519 Speaker 24: that when number nine comes back, because I think at 2015 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,519 Speaker 24: times not that he complicates things, but he's so bright. 2016 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 24: If he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers, 2017 01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:20,800 Speaker 24: what good does it do? 2018 01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:21,240 Speaker 31: You know? 2019 01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,719 Speaker 24: It would help that they were all on the same page. 2020 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,479 Speaker 24: So I think Flacco could be a guy going forward 2021 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,280 Speaker 24: to be kind of like a conduit of assistant coach 2022 01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,040 Speaker 24: who's won a Super Bowl, and you know, the quarterbacks 2023 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 24: respect each other more so than say the coaches or 2024 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 24: anyone else. I think he'd be a valuable, valuable weapon 2025 01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,320 Speaker 24: going forward. And one final thing Tony is obviously you 2026 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,920 Speaker 24: guys comment on this. The whole idea of you have 2027 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,200 Speaker 24: to turn you back when you're under center. I mean, 2028 01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 24: I'm ancient. You go back and look at some of 2029 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,720 Speaker 24: the old quarterbacks. They would be under center and then 2030 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,280 Speaker 24: they would take the snap and then they would go 2031 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,360 Speaker 24: back parallel to the offensive mind they would still be 2032 01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,519 Speaker 24: surveying the entire field while looking at it rather than 2033 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 24: turning it back on. So, I mean, it's one thing 2034 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,360 Speaker 24: that we don't see a lot now with quarterbacks, but 2035 01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 24: it is an option. I get that when you're going 2036 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 24: to run play action, you do at some point you 2037 01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,599 Speaker 24: have to turn to fake to the handoff. But even 2038 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:10,920 Speaker 24: if you're in the center and you don't have a 2039 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,120 Speaker 24: run play action, that is also an option. Go back 2040 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 24: to look at old Terry Bradshaw stuff and then they 2041 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:18,559 Speaker 24: did it then and you know, a. 2042 01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 7: Five step drop. 2043 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 24: I think that that's something that could also work. 2044 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm one hundred percent with you, and I 2045 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 2: do agree. The mentorship, John, thank you for the call. 2046 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:28,960 Speaker 2: I want to I want to dive into that here. 2047 01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,000 Speaker 2: The mentorship Austin I think is so valuable for Burrow 2048 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,679 Speaker 2: because we've heard in the last couple of years Burrow 2049 01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 2: talking about, you know, taking on more role as a leader, 2050 01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,559 Speaker 2: you know, kind of getting out of his comfort zone. 2051 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:46,720 Speaker 2: It's not like Flacco is this like uber, out going guy, 2052 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,880 Speaker 2: but he's just got this sense about him that, you know, 2053 01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of resembment like that. 2054 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,639 Speaker 2: They call Burrow Joe cool for a reason as well, 2055 01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, just never never able to affect them and 2056 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,880 Speaker 2: pressure all. He's keeping the same mentality. But I think 2057 01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,920 Speaker 2: there is a lot and I'm not just talking about 2058 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,120 Speaker 2: what's on the field, and that could could be vital 2059 01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,280 Speaker 2: as well, but I think there's a lot that Joe 2060 01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 2: Burrow could take in and learn from a guy like 2061 01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:15,000 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco as his backup. Yeah. 2062 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 4: I mean what I think about, and you would know 2063 01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 4: much better than me, is what are those meetings like, 2064 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know, the meetings in the quarterback room 2065 01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,599 Speaker 4: with you know, having him to lean on if you're 2066 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:32,479 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow or Jake Browning or whoever is critical because 2067 01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,560 Speaker 4: you got Zach Taylor in there, and he's just a 2068 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:39,720 Speaker 4: smidge older than Joe Flacco, right. Brad Cragthorpe's the quarterbacks coach. 2069 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:43,280 Speaker 4: He's thirty three years old. Dan Pitcher's thirty eight Yearshd's 2070 01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,920 Speaker 4: the veteran. Joe Burrow is twenty seven or twenty eight 2071 01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 4: or whatever it is, and obviously the other guy. So like, 2072 01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:52,240 Speaker 4: there's not that you know, being an older person automatically 2073 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,639 Speaker 4: makes you better at the at the job or gives 2074 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 4: you a leg up because age oftentimes doesn't matter, but 2075 01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:03,800 Speaker 4: agent do this experience does. And having been there, done that, 2076 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,360 Speaker 4: and gone throughout. 2077 01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,120 Speaker 2: Your career in so many different ways and stops and 2078 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:12,639 Speaker 2: places and offenses and people, just that as a resource 2079 01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 2: in and of itself is. 2080 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:18,600 Speaker 4: Helpful now and will be helpful in the future. With 2081 01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,800 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow as the quarterback, or if Joe Flacco is the. 2082 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 2: Quest I think the point that John brought up, like, hey, 2083 01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,639 Speaker 2: you know, I never like to go under center either, 2084 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,800 Speaker 2: but this has really opened some things up for me. 2085 01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,960 Speaker 2: You should try it. Or man, we ran this, We 2086 01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,479 Speaker 2: ran this concept eight years ago, and I ran this 2087 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,479 Speaker 2: twelve years ago. We ran this in the Super Bowl. 2088 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,600 Speaker 2: Like they don't have anyone on this staff that can 2089 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:41,840 Speaker 2: have that conversation with Burrow. 2090 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:46,240 Speaker 4: Or even if Joe Burrow is like, hey, I don't 2091 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,760 Speaker 4: I've never loved turning my back to the defense, how 2092 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,920 Speaker 4: do you deal with that? Those are the questions Joe 2093 01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:56,320 Speaker 4: should be asking Flacco yep. And it's like, why do 2094 01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,960 Speaker 4: you feel more comfortable turning your back to the defense 2095 01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:01,080 Speaker 4: and how do you like, what do you base that 2096 01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 4: off of or where do your eyes go or how 2097 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:05,880 Speaker 4: do you approach this? And again this is not saying 2098 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,599 Speaker 4: Joe Flacker is a better quarterback, but it's like, oh, 2099 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:11,360 Speaker 4: there's a different way of doing things. 2100 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,800 Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said Austin along the 2101 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:21,800 Speaker 2: same lines of Andy Dalton with Bryce Young. Different stages, sure, 2102 01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,639 Speaker 2: but you know, Bryce Young sang the praises of Andy 2103 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,879 Speaker 2: Dalton of the role that he played in the leadership, 2104 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,240 Speaker 2: and when asked, Dalton went in and did the job. 2105 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,880 Speaker 2: But you know, with a guy like Flacco, if your 2106 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,560 Speaker 2: burr like, you're not looking over your shoulder, you're not 2107 01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:41,120 Speaker 2: worried about him taking your job. But and again I 2108 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,280 Speaker 2: don't want to make this take a shot at Jake Browning. 2109 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,639 Speaker 2: How much can Joe really lean on Jake and say, hey, Jake, 2110 01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,720 Speaker 2: what do you think here? What do you seen? Have 2111 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,479 Speaker 2: you seen this before? Like you just can't do that 2112 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:56,840 Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco you can, And I think that just 2113 01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,880 Speaker 2: makes so much sense for this organization. Uh, let's take 2114 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,599 Speaker 2: Mike is calling in as well, what's up, Mike, Hey. 2115 01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:04,800 Speaker 9: What's going on? 2116 01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 5: Guys? 2117 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,680 Speaker 9: I was just sitting here thinking what a whirlwind for 2118 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,040 Speaker 9: for Joe Flecko. I mean, he gets binged for Dylan Gabriel. 2119 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 9: He's the man here and now he's on podcast. Everywhere 2120 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:21,240 Speaker 9: I turned on social media, he is talking on Whiting 2121 01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,160 Speaker 9: fit story, He's got clipped from his uh from his 2122 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,320 Speaker 9: h interviews going on. His media days are posted all 2123 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,320 Speaker 9: over the place. I mean, his kids are probably, you know, 2124 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 9: just soaking it all up with just so much going 2125 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,360 Speaker 9: on with him right now, just right back into the limelight. 2126 01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,599 Speaker 9: Just amazing what has happened in a couple of weeks 2127 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:39,080 Speaker 9: for this guy. 2128 01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I just think he I think the 2129 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:47,280 Speaker 2: reason it's coming across that way is he is just 2130 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:52,760 Speaker 2: one relatable, but two he's just he just seems like 2131 01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:56,160 Speaker 2: a guy who's genuinely grateful and living in the moment 2132 01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,479 Speaker 2: and very appreciative of where he's at. Nothing things too 2133 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,760 Speaker 2: big for him. He's not big time in anyone. It's 2134 01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,000 Speaker 2: he's just kind of savoring the moment that he's in. 2135 01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 2: And I think for a lot of people to just 2136 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:09,879 Speaker 2: make him it makes him so relatable. 2137 01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's really enjoying himself for sure. All Right, y'all 2138 01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:14,839 Speaker 9: have a good afternoon. 2139 01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:19,040 Speaker 2: Mike, appreciate it. Man, Thank you. All right, a break, 2140 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,519 Speaker 2: come back. Let's switch gears just a little bit. Austin. 2141 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,519 Speaker 2: Yesterday was Big twelve media day. We talked to Keegan Nicholson. 2142 01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 2: We did not hear any of Wes Miller from yesterday. 2143 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,880 Speaker 2: We have about five minutes of that. We'll get to 2144 01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 2: that next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, 2145 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Now your chance to. 2146 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:44,120 Speaker 37: Win Upton Sincy three sixty is back on ESPN fifteen thirty, 2147 01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:45,920 Speaker 37: Cincinnati's Sports station. 2148 01:49:55,760 --> 01:50:00,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back, since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati 2149 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:05,679 Speaker 2: These Sports station misspoke Austin Moe is not in today. 2150 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:11,160 Speaker 2: That's correct, right, It's Chad Brendle who's in today. Correct. 2151 01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,200 Speaker 2: I just saw Chad a moment ago, So Chad is 2152 01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:17,920 Speaker 2: in for quick hits today. Chad Brendle quick hits more 2153 01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,439 Speaker 2: talking about the Bearcats coming up this afternoon. By the way, 2154 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 2: Brendan Soorsby leads the Big Twelve in total QBR and 2155 01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:28,200 Speaker 2: PFF raigning. He also leads the country in total touchdowns 2156 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:35,000 Speaker 2: just throwing that out there. Brendan soarsby doing big things 2157 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Obviously, it's a Bearcat team Bowl 2158 01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 2: eligible for the fifteenth time in twenty years. You see 2159 01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,680 Speaker 2: right now in conference games, leads the Big Twelve in 2160 01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 2: scoring thirty six per game. Baylor is number two in 2161 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,800 Speaker 2: that as well. Baylor is a team though, that has 2162 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:59,640 Speaker 2: scored two defensive touchdowns and can throw it around. They 2163 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 2: lead nation in passing. Brendan Soorsby is tied nationally with 2164 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:09,120 Speaker 2: baylors Eorse. I'm sorry Leeds now because they moved one 2165 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,320 Speaker 2: of the rushing touchdowns to a passing touchdown. Swersby's twenty 2166 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 2: four touchdowns one behind Baylor and their quarterback Robertson, who's 2167 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,240 Speaker 2: got twenty three touchdowns. That's number one and number two 2168 01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,640 Speaker 2: in the nation. So it's gonna be a good one 2169 01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:28,240 Speaker 2: on Saturday between the Baylor Bears and the UC Bearcats. 2170 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 2: It's also going to be good to be able to 2171 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:36,479 Speaker 2: see more of the Cincinnati Bearcats coming up. Their season 2172 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,880 Speaker 2: just ready to get underway. I believe November three is 2173 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 2: the first official game of the season, but before that, 2174 01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,840 Speaker 2: the Bearcats are in Arkansas. They take on John Jan 2175 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:52,960 Speaker 2: John Calipari's Arkansas Razorbacks. That is a exhibition that's going 2176 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,120 Speaker 2: to take place tomorrow night as well. And for the 2177 01:51:56,240 --> 01:52:00,400 Speaker 2: UC basketball program, I believe much different than the vibes 2178 01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:04,600 Speaker 2: that we have discussed with Xavier yesterday. Doesn't feel like 2179 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,600 Speaker 2: a get in the tournament and it's a success. It 2180 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,600 Speaker 2: feels like get in the tournament and figure out a 2181 01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,240 Speaker 2: way to win a game in the tournament. For Wes Miller. 2182 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,719 Speaker 2: This year, for the UC Bearcats, they have already lost 2183 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 2: Big Slime. They're projected one of their projected big man's 2184 01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,639 Speaker 2: no timetable on his return. But this is a talented roster. 2185 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 2: They need to win and they need to win now. 2186 01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:29,639 Speaker 2: Wes Miller caught up with folks at Big twelve media 2187 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:31,400 Speaker 2: day yesterday. Here's a couple of minutes of what Wes 2188 01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:31,920 Speaker 2: had to say. 2189 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,280 Speaker 34: The depth of the league. It's not just great at 2190 01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:39,800 Speaker 34: the top, which it is, it's great all the way through. 2191 01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:44,280 Speaker 34: There's unbelievable coaching, there's unbelievable players. 2192 01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot of older players. 2193 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:46,760 Speaker 5: In this league. 2194 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,519 Speaker 34: I mean, you get guys in their fourth and fifth 2195 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,280 Speaker 34: year that are old, tough, talented and smart. And then 2196 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,000 Speaker 34: this year we're going to have so many great young 2197 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,640 Speaker 34: players as a part of that. It's awesome though, Like 2198 01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:02,200 Speaker 34: there's challenges every single night, but it's an awesome opportunity 2199 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,639 Speaker 34: every night. I think more than anything, after two years, 2200 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,920 Speaker 34: there's just a better perspective of how to prepare for it, 2201 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:10,040 Speaker 34: and I think that's what we've been excited as we 2202 01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:11,960 Speaker 34: tack our preseason at Cincinnati. 2203 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,360 Speaker 22: I just happened to be at Cincinnati last week for 2204 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 22: two days and spend time with this gentleman and was 2205 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:22,240 Speaker 22: very impressed with the team depth. He lost a player 2206 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,800 Speaker 22: in Jalen Haynes, but you have so much depth this year. 2207 01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,400 Speaker 22: How will that impact how you play? Trying to play 2208 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,280 Speaker 22: with the unbelievable pace. We've always wanted to try to 2209 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:36,200 Speaker 22: push the pace as a program. This should be the 2210 01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,560 Speaker 22: fastest we've ever played. I mean that we've done that 2211 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 22: throughout our summer and our preseason, and some of its depth, 2212 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,599 Speaker 22: some of it is our personnel. You don't bring kerk 2213 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,000 Speaker 22: Crisha to your team if you don't want to play fast. 2214 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:51,400 Speaker 22: I mean, he he wants to play fast every possession, 2215 01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,560 Speaker 22: but he also makes people want to play fast with 2216 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:55,400 Speaker 22: him because he advances the ball so well. 2217 01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,479 Speaker 34: So I think pace will be big. We're going to 2218 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,560 Speaker 34: be trying to be very nected on both sides of 2219 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,679 Speaker 34: the floor. And it's intentional, like we're not just saying 2220 01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,000 Speaker 34: be a connected group. We're trying to be intentional about 2221 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,599 Speaker 34: it from day one. And then there's an aggressive We're 2222 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:14,920 Speaker 34: at Cincinnati, there's an aggressive approach to our community when 2223 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:17,920 Speaker 34: it comes to sports. We're going to be an aggressive team. 2224 01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:21,120 Speaker 34: So whether that's being aggressive offensively, being aggressive on the 2225 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 34: offensive glass, making sure we do some things to make 2226 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,640 Speaker 34: our defense more aggressive, and I think we have the 2227 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:28,720 Speaker 34: versatility defensively to do that as well. 2228 01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 17: You talked about pace at times last year your offense 2229 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:35,440 Speaker 17: got stuck. How is this year's roster difference just besides pace? 2230 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,120 Speaker 17: What are the pieces look like that make you believe 2231 01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 17: that when the game does get slowed down or gets 2232 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,240 Speaker 17: tightened up in conference play, your guys are going to 2233 01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:43,240 Speaker 17: execute in those moments. 2234 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 34: We had our first exhibition and it's just an exhibition, 2235 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,920 Speaker 34: and you guys know this stuff that don't count in October, 2236 01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:49,800 Speaker 34: but we scored one hundred. I don't know if we 2237 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 34: could have scored a hundred against anybody last year. So 2238 01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,080 Speaker 34: I think we have much more skill across the board. 2239 01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,480 Speaker 34: I think we have more decision making just with some 2240 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,640 Speaker 34: of the pieces that were added. So I think we 2241 01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,480 Speaker 34: can generate offense in different ways. We can play through 2242 01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:09,280 Speaker 34: the post with Mustapha Cham I mean, he can score 2243 01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,560 Speaker 34: down there and that's been exciting because he's evolving as 2244 01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,400 Speaker 34: this young player. But you can throw it to him 2245 01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,880 Speaker 34: and he can do things over both shoulders. Jalen Haynes 2246 01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,120 Speaker 34: was a guy we were going to do that with 2247 01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,440 Speaker 34: a lot. But we can score in the front court 2248 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,800 Speaker 34: Baba Miller, through the post, we can generate through pick 2249 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:27,600 Speaker 34: and roll, or through space. We can generate with cutting, 2250 01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,560 Speaker 34: and then we have a lot more shooting as well. 2251 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 34: And you know, listen, I want to get easy ones 2252 01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:33,600 Speaker 34: early in the clock and we're going to really try 2253 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,120 Speaker 34: to push the pace. I think that's where we can 2254 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:36,240 Speaker 34: be different in all those areas. 2255 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 3: And then you've got a good returner in Dana Thomas 2256 01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,560 Speaker 3: returning with some big twelve experience, fifty games that he's 2257 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,200 Speaker 3: played there with Cincinnati gets the extra year with the 2258 01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 3: DJUCO grandfathered in a clause. 2259 01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,840 Speaker 2: What does he bring back and how important is it 2260 01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,360 Speaker 2: to have him? 2261 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,280 Speaker 34: And Fran knows this, but every question about Dada Thomas 2262 01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:55,720 Speaker 34: makes me smile and makes. 2263 01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Me appreciate the question what he means. 2264 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,400 Speaker 34: Like somebody said, you don't have many returners, We have three, 2265 01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,640 Speaker 34: but Daday's worth three himself. I mean, he's been in 2266 01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,160 Speaker 34: our program now for two years, he's played two years 2267 01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:12,080 Speaker 34: in the Big Twelve. He represents everything that we value 2268 01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:15,400 Speaker 34: in Cincinnati basketball, and he's learned now how to lead 2269 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 34: and project those things onto his teammates. 2270 01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,480 Speaker 5: So he is so important to us. 2271 01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:21,720 Speaker 2: I will say this as a player. 2272 01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:25,040 Speaker 34: He's playing his best basketball of his college careers healthy again, 2273 01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:26,600 Speaker 34: so I'm really excited. 2274 01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:27,720 Speaker 2: And then Fran knows this. 2275 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 34: In our league, you're just gonna have possessions that get stalled, 2276 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:33,720 Speaker 34: and we don't want to have as many as we 2277 01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,400 Speaker 34: had a year ago, but it's sometimes the chips are 2278 01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:37,720 Speaker 34: down and you have to have guys that can go 2279 01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 34: make a play without an advantage. Dada can do that, 2280 01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,800 Speaker 34: and he's doing it better now than he ever has. 2281 01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:44,960 Speaker 34: And then we have a young player in Sean Abaya 2282 01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 34: that can do that as well. So we have a 2283 01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,240 Speaker 34: couple guys for the first time that the chips will 2284 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:50,800 Speaker 34: be down, and it's going to be fun to watch 2285 01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:52,840 Speaker 34: them go create offense when offense isn't there. 2286 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,560 Speaker 22: Sean had fifteen. I think in the first half against Michigan. 2287 01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,920 Speaker 22: What did you see from him, both good and bad, 2288 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,440 Speaker 22: that you're excited about, and then you're looking for improvement 2289 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 22: as he becomes more experienced. 2290 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:10,440 Speaker 34: I saw a confidence he has a and I want 2291 01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,640 Speaker 34: to say this first, the most impressive thing about SHAWNA. 2292 01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,560 Speaker 34: Bay of today is the way he's walked through the door, humble, 2293 01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:20,160 Speaker 34: head down. He's challenged our our locker room to be 2294 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,600 Speaker 34: the hardest worker on the team as an incoming freshman, 2295 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:26,480 Speaker 34: and he's earned the respect of his teammates Keishan Tillery 2296 01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,480 Speaker 34: or other freshmen to fit into that same category as well. 2297 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 34: I've been so impressed with the way they've walked in 2298 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,440 Speaker 34: the door as highly touted recruits. They've earned the other 2299 01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:38,320 Speaker 34: players respect. But in the game, you see the shot making, 2300 01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:42,120 Speaker 34: you see his confidence in the moment's not too big, 2301 01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:46,040 Speaker 34: even this early. But the little things have to get better. Friends, 2302 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,120 Speaker 34: the stuff he can control, how hard he runs the floor, 2303 01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,080 Speaker 34: the way that he defends, which, by the way, is 2304 01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:54,800 Speaker 34: improving all these things at a rapid rate. But I 2305 01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,920 Speaker 34: think he'll have some really good moments here early, wait 2306 01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:00,320 Speaker 34: till January and February. If he keeps his coach the 2307 01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,720 Speaker 34: same way, I think he could be very good. 2308 01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,840 Speaker 2: All Right. So that's some stuff from Wes Miller at 2309 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 2: Big twelve media Day. Two things that stand out to me, Austin. One, 2310 01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,840 Speaker 2: how many times last year did we talk about the 2311 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:16,120 Speaker 2: pace at which they played and just not finding easy shots. 2312 01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,600 Speaker 2: I think moving and pushing the pace should help them 2313 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:23,040 Speaker 2: a lot. Second, and I think the biggest question I 2314 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:26,480 Speaker 2: want to know, Austin, if the shot clock's winding down, 2315 01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:29,760 Speaker 2: do they have a dude that you can throw the 2316 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,240 Speaker 2: ball to then go get his own bucket? 2317 01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 8: Right? 2318 01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:36,680 Speaker 2: Like I remember Jared Cumberland. I knew that if things 2319 01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,720 Speaker 2: were breaking down, you could get Cumberland the ball with 2320 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,120 Speaker 2: eight to ten on the clock and he could go 2321 01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:41,600 Speaker 2: find a way to get a bucket. He could create 2322 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,280 Speaker 2: a shot. Do they have that on this roster? Because 2323 01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 2: if not, regardless of how good of a team you are, 2324 01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:53,040 Speaker 2: regardless of how much you do push the pace, you 2325 01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:56,160 Speaker 2: have got to be able to have someone that can 2326 01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,160 Speaker 2: go get his own basket. 2327 01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:58,080 Speaker 13: Yeah. 2328 01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 4: I mean, thinking back to last year's team, some of 2329 01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,480 Speaker 4: those possessions were like pulling teeth. Oh, just you can 2330 01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:06,440 Speaker 4: tell what's coming. Yeah, And I thought they played way 2331 01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,400 Speaker 4: too slow. So it's good to hear Wes say we 2332 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:11,200 Speaker 4: want to play fast and we want good shots early 2333 01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:15,120 Speaker 4: in the shot clock. Not being afraid to doesn't matter. 2334 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:17,600 Speaker 4: If there's twenty five seconds left, I got an open shot, 2335 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:19,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna hit it like that 2336 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 4: sort of pace, that sort of get it moving quickly, 2337 01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,520 Speaker 4: get those open shots, good shots early in the in 2338 01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:25,200 Speaker 4: the shot clock. 2339 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,920 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna bode well for you. Yeah, Chad 2340 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,560 Speaker 2: Brenda will join us for quick hits in a bit. 2341 01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:31,960 Speaker 2: Before that, we'll grab a phone call or two. Next 2342 01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,120 Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, with. 2343 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 28: Dave Lapham's enshrinement into the Bengals Ring of Honor, we 2344 01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 28: pay tribute to the Life of lap presented by Skyline 2345 01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,240 Speaker 28: Feeling Good Eats Skyline Time. 2346 01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:46,400 Speaker 2: Now Here's Dan. 2347 01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,520 Speaker 27: Indeed, Lap you are known for your boisterous enthusiasm in 2348 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:52,920 Speaker 27: the booth, but there's no better x as and O's 2349 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:56,640 Speaker 27: analyst in the NFL, describe your approach as a broadcaster. 2350 01:59:56,840 --> 01:59:58,080 Speaker 2: It's probably a lot like yours. 2351 01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:58,320 Speaker 6: Dan. 2352 01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,320 Speaker 39: I mean, we both went to the New How School 2353 02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,080 Speaker 39: of Communications at Syracuse University. The best there is preparing 2354 02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:07,920 Speaker 39: people to enter the broadcast world knowing everything there is 2355 02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:11,080 Speaker 39: to know about what you're doing, what you're broadcasting, I 2356 02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:14,000 Speaker 39: don't care if it's tittleywinks or you know, the Super Bowl, 2357 02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:17,640 Speaker 39: having an understanding of who the competitors are, what makes 2358 02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:21,640 Speaker 39: them great and honestly, I mean, it's just managing enthusiasm 2359 02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:23,720 Speaker 39: for the game. Just comes from love with the game 2360 02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:25,800 Speaker 39: and do it in a way that you know the 2361 02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,240 Speaker 39: audience appreciates that. 2362 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, he really likes the game. 2363 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,920 Speaker 28: For more on the life of Lap keep it here 2364 02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:36,879 Speaker 28: on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 2365 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:44,360 Speaker 37: Cincy three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 2366 02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back, we are rolling. It's already Thursday, already nearing 2367 02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the end of our three The hell of a week, 2368 02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:00,320 Speaker 2: hell of a week, hell of a couple of weeks. 2369 02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:05,560 Speaker 2: Chad Breundle standing by next. Got to talk to Chad 2370 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:08,440 Speaker 2: Brenda last night on his uh on his podcast with 2371 02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,520 Speaker 2: barcat Jordan dot Com Awston, they had their five hundredth episode. 2372 02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:16,080 Speaker 2: The BCJ five hundredth episodes the congrats and we'reder to 2373 02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,520 Speaker 2: celebrate he's in here today. Every once in a while, 2374 02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever told Chad this, but 2375 02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,840 Speaker 2: every once in a while, I'll be on YouTube looking 2376 02:01:22,920 --> 02:01:25,960 Speaker 2: for something and I'll see the BCJ. 2377 02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,680 Speaker 4: Is live, and so I'll just flip over check out. 2378 02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:31,480 Speaker 4: I'll watch for a few minutes. Yeah, you know, just 2379 02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,360 Speaker 4: peruse the comments, see what people are saying, and uh, yeah, 2380 02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:37,840 Speaker 4: I listen. I get once in a while, I know 2381 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:38,960 Speaker 4: what's going to get the Cats. 2382 02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,800 Speaker 2: We listen. We listened to callers as well. What's happened 2383 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:42,120 Speaker 2: in Mike? 2384 02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:48,640 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, thank you appreciate it. Hey up talking about 2385 02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:49,440 Speaker 7: the Bearcats. 2386 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:49,920 Speaker 16: Uh. 2387 02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,880 Speaker 40: I think this prediction that Patino's gonna finish eighth in 2388 02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,120 Speaker 40: the Big East is grossly wrong. 2389 02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:58,480 Speaker 7: I think he'll surprise a lot of people. I'm not 2390 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 7: saying they'll win the league the Big East, but he's 2391 02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:02,760 Speaker 7: going to surprise some people. 2392 02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,320 Speaker 40: You know why, because he is one hell of a 2393 02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 40: coach and he had the. 2394 02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:11,840 Speaker 7: Best teacher you could ever have. So watch out their 2395 02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:14,960 Speaker 7: catch because his team. You might beat him this year, 2396 02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,920 Speaker 7: but I don't know about next year. So I'm just 2397 02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,880 Speaker 7: calling it like I see it. I think the Xavier 2398 02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,320 Speaker 7: gets the short end of the stick sometimes here, but 2399 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:24,000 Speaker 7: I don't know why. 2400 02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:27,280 Speaker 2: That's what that's what rot for both teams. But that's 2401 02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,520 Speaker 2: what shocked me yesterday is I opened it up because 2402 02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely curious, and to hear a couple of Xavier 2403 02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:36,120 Speaker 2: fans call in and say, you know, somewhere around the 2404 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,160 Speaker 2: five hundred mark, that surprised me a little bit. 2405 02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:41,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, and maybe it's true stance, it's this first year, 2406 02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:45,160 Speaker 7: but once he gets settled in, this guy is as 2407 02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:47,080 Speaker 7: good as it gets with the x's and o's. And 2408 02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:49,640 Speaker 7: he's also a very good recruiter, very good. I mean, 2409 02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,800 Speaker 7: if you can recruit recruit kids to New Mexico, for 2410 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:56,280 Speaker 7: crying out loud, you can, you know, get him to 2411 02:02:56,400 --> 02:03:00,280 Speaker 7: the Big East or wherever. The other comment I'm to 2412 02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:04,240 Speaker 7: make it kind of shocked me Dat Wescott, who I'm 2413 02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:07,040 Speaker 7: not a fan of anyone with the Cowboys, but this 2414 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,160 Speaker 7: guy is having a hell of a year. And when 2415 02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:15,200 Speaker 7: they run play action, he's sixty one for seventy pass 2416 02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:20,480 Speaker 7: completions with seven touchdowns and zero interception. Is that impressive? 2417 02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,120 Speaker 7: And not ever hear anybody talk about it. 2418 02:03:25,240 --> 02:03:27,920 Speaker 2: And not exactly dominant in the running game as well, 2419 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:29,520 Speaker 2: that you would think that teams are just having to 2420 02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:30,520 Speaker 2: bite up on the run. 2421 02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:35,760 Speaker 7: Fake Yeah, so uh. And Pickens has made a different 2422 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,320 Speaker 7: form and ceedee lamback of course is a big deal. 2423 02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:40,839 Speaker 2: They're a good offense. They're an elite offense. Their defense 2424 02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:42,520 Speaker 2: not so much. But that's a good offense. 2425 02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:47,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. Their defense probably around like the Bengals defense. I guess, 2426 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:50,320 Speaker 7: Maggie probably somewhat comparable. I'll have to look at up 2427 02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,360 Speaker 7: and tomorrow's art of the World series. Hallelujah. I can't wait. 2428 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:58,240 Speaker 7: I'm so excited. I just wish Vin Scully was still 2429 02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,800 Speaker 7: around to be able to do play by because he's 2430 02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 7: the greatest I ever heard. Marty was good, but even 2431 02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,560 Speaker 7: Marty will tell you Ben Sculley is the best ever. 2432 02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:09,200 Speaker 7: So go Big Blue and all you people have hate 2433 02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:12,000 Speaker 7: the Dodgers. You know why you hate him because you're envious. 2434 02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:13,240 Speaker 7: That's why you hate him. 2435 02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:14,120 Speaker 2: You're envy. 2436 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:17,160 Speaker 7: You're Greek with envy. You don't even like yourself. That's 2437 02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:18,520 Speaker 7: why you don't like the Dodgers. 2438 02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,200 Speaker 2: They used to say, don't hate us because you ain't us. 2439 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:25,280 Speaker 7: That's a good one. 2440 02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:26,600 Speaker 11: I like it. 2441 02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:32,320 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thanks I have a good one. Chad Brendle 2442 02:04:33,160 --> 02:04:36,480 Speaker 2: hanging by. We'll join us next quick hits to finish 2443 02:04:36,480 --> 02:04:38,960 Speaker 2: off today's edition to Sincy three sixty. You're listening on 2444 02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:41,680 Speaker 2: the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports 2445 02:04:41,680 --> 02:04:42,760 Speaker 2: Station thanks to Penn Station. 2446 02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:48,320 Speaker 37: Since he three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's 2447 02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:52,520 Speaker 37: sports station, it's time for Cincy three sixty Quick Hits 2448 02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:54,520 Speaker 37: on ESPN fifteen thirty. 2449 02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,920 Speaker 2: I was looking for Mo. Moe's not here. We know 2450 02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:00,480 Speaker 2: where Moe is today, probably golfing. Oh the company off outing, 2451 02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:03,480 Speaker 2: I think so, I don't know if that's where. What 2452 02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:07,400 Speaker 2: are we doing here working? Oh no, they didn't know 2453 02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,160 Speaker 2: you were a golfer. They probably didn't know I was 2454 02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:10,800 Speaker 2: going to be with the company. That's right, you did, 2455 02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,440 Speaker 2: so you were out in the invite days. Yeah, that 2456 02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:18,120 Speaker 2: got changed around a little bit. Chad Breundle is in 2457 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:22,000 Speaker 2: for uh Mowgar today celebrating. But last night was number 2458 02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:23,839 Speaker 2: five hundred, five hundred shows. 2459 02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:26,120 Speaker 20: Wow, it's a lot of It's like ten years where 2460 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:30,280 Speaker 20: me and Dave Simone dunking bearcats crazy and now to 2461 02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:32,040 Speaker 20: celebrate you're here today. 2462 02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:33,240 Speaker 2: You want to hear a funny story. 2463 02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:33,600 Speaker 7: Yes. 2464 02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,640 Speaker 20: So when they originally like asked me to do this show, 2465 02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:41,200 Speaker 20: it was right before everything happened. Yeah, so they had 2466 02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,400 Speaker 20: asked me because Austin was going to be going to 2467 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:46,360 Speaker 20: Green Bay. They were like, can you do Thursday? Right, 2468 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,040 Speaker 20: and then also can you do October twenty third? When 2469 02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:54,360 Speaker 20: everything happened, I forgot about October twenty third. Yeah, completely 2470 02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:56,320 Speaker 20: was out of my mind. 2471 02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:56,600 Speaker 17: Right. 2472 02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,000 Speaker 20: My dad calls me last night and he's like, hey, 2473 02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:00,520 Speaker 20: do you need me to pick Kel's you up from 2474 02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:01,400 Speaker 20: school tomorrow? 2475 02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:04,480 Speaker 2: And I was like no, why. He's like, you're on radio. 2476 02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:06,480 Speaker 18: I was like no. 2477 02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:09,080 Speaker 2: He's like, well, both thinks you do. I was like, 2478 02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:10,200 Speaker 2: what do you mean. 2479 02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,360 Speaker 20: He's like, he's said on the radio, Chad Brendle is 2480 02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:15,680 Speaker 20: in tomorrow. And I was like, I guess you got 2481 02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,360 Speaker 20: radio show to plan. Oh yeah, if you could pick 2482 02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:21,320 Speaker 20: her up that in planning said show, what do you 2483 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,600 Speaker 20: got on the show today? We're going to talk about 2484 02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:27,600 Speaker 20: the transition. There's a transition, right, we are going from 2485 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:34,360 Speaker 20: Joe cool to Uncle Joe and the dynamic of like, look, 2486 02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:37,080 Speaker 20: you know your cool cousin like that everybody wants to 2487 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:40,520 Speaker 20: be like your cool cousin. But there's also that cool 2488 02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:44,080 Speaker 20: uncle that, like you know, you're looking forward to as 2489 02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:50,440 Speaker 20: you get older. Like with with the cool uncle, it's 2490 02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:55,400 Speaker 20: a different dynamic, but both everybody loves the cool uncle 2491 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:58,680 Speaker 20: and you look forward to learning from that guy and 2492 02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,160 Speaker 20: being around that guy. And I think we're starting to 2493 02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:04,800 Speaker 20: see that in the Bengals locker room, people being impacted 2494 02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:08,560 Speaker 20: by having a different voice. Not that it's better or worse. 2495 02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:10,800 Speaker 20: Sometimes different is okay. 2496 02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:15,120 Speaker 2: And it's it's interesting too because like when you win, 2497 02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:17,760 Speaker 2: it helps make this even sure. If you lose, it's 2498 02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:21,000 Speaker 2: like all right, man, whatever, yeah, win anyway, it's awesome. Yeah, 2499 02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,080 Speaker 2: and it just adds to it. And it's a. 2500 02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,520 Speaker 20: Big one this week because the vibes will remain high 2501 02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,720 Speaker 20: with a win. You lose to the Jets, especially if 2502 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,120 Speaker 20: Sauce isn't playing. Yeah, you all just to the Jets. 2503 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:32,520 Speaker 7: Uh. 2504 02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:36,480 Speaker 2: Oh, So it's it's an interesting week. Yeah, And again 2505 02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:38,600 Speaker 2: it opens up things to maybe do it the deadline, 2506 02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:39,920 Speaker 2: if you can win another one, if you can get 2507 02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:40,960 Speaker 2: yourself back to five hundred. 2508 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,120 Speaker 20: I'm not I'm done trying to talk myself into the 2509 02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:44,879 Speaker 20: Bengals are going to make it trade at the deadline. 2510 02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. If you're not going to use them, 2511 02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:52,640 Speaker 2: trade them the Bearcats. Yes? Is this real? 2512 02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:56,880 Speaker 20: Because last year we were in a similar spot right 2513 02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 20: now five and two, they had just beaten Arizona State. 2514 02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:02,640 Speaker 20: We knew that the back half of the schedule was 2515 02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:06,640 Speaker 20: the tougher portion of the schedule. But hey, there's some optimism. 2516 02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:10,720 Speaker 20: Maybe Scott Sidderfield is getting some things figured out. What's different? 2517 02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,960 Speaker 20: Why is it different? And again, the back half of 2518 02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:18,840 Speaker 20: the schedule is by far the tougher portion of the schedule. Yes, 2519 02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:24,160 Speaker 20: But what's different about this team that's going to allow 2520 02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:26,840 Speaker 20: this team to navigate this better than they did last year? 2521 02:08:26,880 --> 02:08:30,520 Speaker 20: Because look, I don't think anybody's really expecting this team 2522 02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:32,200 Speaker 20: to go eleven and one, ten and two. 2523 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:36,160 Speaker 2: Would it be great if they did? Sure, and track 2524 02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:38,360 Speaker 2: record in the Big twelve two years ago, TCU came 2525 02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,440 Speaker 2: out of nowhere one last year comes out of nowhere 2526 02:08:41,520 --> 02:08:44,040 Speaker 2: wins it. There is a track record there that's that 2527 02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:47,360 Speaker 2: somebody's gonna do it. And your toughest game on your 2528 02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:51,840 Speaker 2: schedule remaining his home. Yeah, so's there's a path. But 2529 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:56,080 Speaker 2: what makes this team different? What makes this team able 2530 02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,000 Speaker 2: to sustain that? I think it comes down to two things. 2531 02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Special teams and taking care of the football. Yeah, I mean, 2532 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:05,880 Speaker 2: which they've been great at both. This team has been 2533 02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:10,240 Speaker 2: historically good. Yeah. Can you imagine making it seven games, 2534 02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:11,480 Speaker 2: Tony with only one interception? 2535 02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:11,720 Speaker 35: No? 2536 02:09:13,240 --> 02:09:19,040 Speaker 2: No, I can imagine playing some yardage, but no, like 2537 02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:23,200 Speaker 2: they've been so good in that. But at the same time, 2538 02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:27,720 Speaker 2: like they've they've just found rhythm at the right times. 2539 02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,360 Speaker 2: And I think the biggest thing they've played from ahead, 2540 02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:32,560 Speaker 2: that's been like we talked about that the last few years. Right, 2541 02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:36,960 Speaker 2: that's key. But but turnovers and special teams, why you 2542 02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:38,040 Speaker 2: get to play from ahead? 2543 02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:38,240 Speaker 7: Right? 2544 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:42,200 Speaker 2: And I'm I'm interested with an elite passing attack coming 2545 02:09:42,280 --> 02:09:44,880 Speaker 2: in on Saturday, can they still play from ahead? 2546 02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:48,440 Speaker 20: I'm interested to see what what mother nature does to that. Yeah, 2547 02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:51,480 Speaker 20: because did you see that the temperature in Waco yesterday? No, 2548 02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:55,480 Speaker 20: eighty eight degrees. I was just reading right here. We 2549 02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,280 Speaker 20: get these on our desk every morning. Uh the nine 2550 02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:01,120 Speaker 20: first Warning weather presented by Jennifer catch Mark. You see 2551 02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:07,040 Speaker 20: game day Saturday, dry stayin Chili, high sixty one, low 2552 02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:11,440 Speaker 20: forty one, So four o'clock, Yeah, it's supposed to be 2553 02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,360 Speaker 20: a little cloudy, so that sun's not going to be 2554 02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:17,320 Speaker 20: you know out full perfect football weather as a fan, 2555 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:20,320 Speaker 20: but a team coming from Waco. The low in Waco 2556 02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:21,520 Speaker 20: yesterday was sixty four. 2557 02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a look like the South Florida teams in 2558 02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:25,280 Speaker 2: the Big East would come up late in the year 2559 02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:25,560 Speaker 2: and with. 2560 02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:27,880 Speaker 20: The years, it would be fifty eight degrees and they 2561 02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:31,360 Speaker 20: would have the jet engines blowing heat on the sideline. 2562 02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:34,880 Speaker 20: So I'm interested in that because if it's if it's 2563 02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:38,120 Speaker 20: competitive and close, that's not a factor. Sure the other 2564 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:41,120 Speaker 20: team gets up a little bit and it's cold, I'm cold. 2565 02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:43,760 Speaker 20: Those guys want to go home, yep. So I think 2566 02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:45,280 Speaker 20: that's gonna be fun as well. We're gonna talk to 2567 02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:49,440 Speaker 20: to Kean Nicholson, who was at Big twelve Basketball media 2568 02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:51,640 Speaker 20: days yesterday. You guys talked to him yesterday, Yep. I'm 2569 02:10:51,640 --> 02:10:54,400 Speaker 20: gonna talk to him today. Why he's now on his 2570 02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,640 Speaker 20: way to Fayettville, Arkansas. Oh yes, scrimmage for the UC. 2571 02:10:58,080 --> 02:10:59,760 Speaker 20: I don't want to do this today. I don't want 2572 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,040 Speaker 20: to get excited about the exhibitions. It must be nice 2573 02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:03,480 Speaker 20: to be young again, because you know what he's doing. 2574 02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:06,040 Speaker 20: Then after the exhibition come back, he's getting in his 2575 02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,840 Speaker 20: car and he's driving back to Cincinnati and planning to 2576 02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:10,160 Speaker 20: be at homecoming at four o'clock. 2577 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:13,000 Speaker 2: Good for him. In my twenties, like this, this would 2578 02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:14,240 Speaker 2: have been the dream road trip. 2579 02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:19,000 Speaker 20: Yeah, right, days and Casey, then you see Arkansas on 2580 02:11:19,120 --> 02:11:22,839 Speaker 20: Friday and then back home for homecoming against Baylor on Saturday, 2581 02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:24,880 Speaker 20: Like there would have been no doubt in my mind. 2582 02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:30,320 Speaker 2: Like, let's go the sports weekend, the exhibition Friday, Bearcut Football, Saturday, 2583 02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:33,080 Speaker 2: Bengals Sunday, hell Is Real Monday. 2584 02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:35,880 Speaker 20: Yeah, that's a nice little week. It's a nice four day, 2585 02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:37,360 Speaker 20: nice four day stretch, four day. 2586 02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:38,160 Speaker 2: We'll get to all that. 2587 02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,520 Speaker 20: Like I said, Jeff Carr, talk a little bit of Red's, 2588 02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,400 Speaker 20: a little bit of Reds three hours, three F's Jeff 2589 02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,800 Speaker 20: Jeff ff Car. Uh, he's gonna talk some Reds with us. 2590 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:54,120 Speaker 2: The Black Hour. Wow, we've got Lee Stirling wagering like it. 2591 02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,760 Speaker 2: And then Dan Klaskins to talk some fantasy football as 2592 02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:02,080 Speaker 2: well with uh, with this bearc game on on Saturday. Yes, 2593 02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:06,000 Speaker 2: what do you view as the hurdles going forward? Because 2594 02:12:06,040 --> 02:12:09,400 Speaker 2: I look like I'm almost more nervous about Saturday, and 2595 02:12:09,480 --> 02:12:12,120 Speaker 2: I hate putting this out there. I'm almost more nervous 2596 02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:15,320 Speaker 2: about Saturday than I am against Utah because I've watched 2597 02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:19,240 Speaker 2: enough Utah that their quarterback play just isn't great. Yeah, 2598 02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:21,080 Speaker 2: And so I go into a game like, I think 2599 02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:24,480 Speaker 2: UC's offense can score with anybody. That way's play is 2600 02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:27,040 Speaker 2: really it's good. But I'm more worried about a team 2601 02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,880 Speaker 2: that can come in and put up you know, forty 2602 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:33,760 Speaker 2: or fifty on any given day. That makes me a 2603 02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:37,960 Speaker 2: little bit nervous from a from a stretch standpoint, because again, 2604 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,560 Speaker 2: I think Arizona's an improved team. They're home. I think 2605 02:12:41,640 --> 02:12:44,640 Speaker 2: BYU is a good football team Knippert Stadium, and maybe 2606 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:46,800 Speaker 2: I mean, can we get a nip and night at 2607 02:12:46,840 --> 02:12:50,680 Speaker 2: any point? Maybe, I don't know, maybe, but I will 2608 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:52,960 Speaker 2: take four though. Yeah, four is great, and then you 2609 02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,520 Speaker 2: finish at TCU. But like, if you look at the 2610 02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:58,600 Speaker 2: Big twelve right now, Arizona State's in third, Texas text 2611 02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:01,800 Speaker 2: and fourth, Houston's in fifth. You miss all those, yeah 2612 02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:04,000 Speaker 2: that you don't play them in the regular season. So 2613 02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:06,600 Speaker 2: the schedule plays out perfectly. 2614 02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:10,600 Speaker 20: Really, even if hypothetically you win this week, you go 2615 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:13,280 Speaker 20: to Utah and lose two losses. 2616 02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so well they have the two b y, you 2617 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,440 Speaker 2: still got to go to Texas Tech next week. Yeah, 2618 02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,400 Speaker 2: I've got Iowa State at Iowa State this week. I 2619 02:13:20,560 --> 02:13:23,480 Speaker 2: just I think there's a lot of openings the window. 2620 02:13:23,640 --> 02:13:26,160 Speaker 2: There's a window for this team, Arizona State. I don't 2621 02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:28,960 Speaker 2: know what they have coming up, but and look here's 2622 02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:29,320 Speaker 2: the thing. 2623 02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:35,640 Speaker 20: There has always been a surprise, right Like Fickles first 2624 02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:38,320 Speaker 20: team was a surprise double digit win team. Now that 2625 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:40,960 Speaker 20: was right when UCF was rolling. Sure, so they didn't 2626 02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:43,200 Speaker 20: make the conference championship, but that was a surprise team. 2627 02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:47,200 Speaker 20: The two thousand and eight team came from nowhere, like 2628 02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:49,480 Speaker 20: you were there, used why the season started the way 2629 02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,080 Speaker 20: the season started, and then kind of on the ropes 2630 02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:56,080 Speaker 20: a lot through that season, and you guys endured and 2631 02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:59,800 Speaker 20: found a way to get in. Is this that year 2632 02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:02,840 Speaker 20: for Scott Sidderfield where they find a way to shock 2633 02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:06,440 Speaker 20: everybody and have the type of season that that nobody envisioned? 2634 02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? I hope. So what I also hope is people 2635 02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,800 Speaker 2: will quit just gambling on sports that are playing sports 2636 02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:15,400 Speaker 2: or coaching sports. Well know, a lot of this like poker, 2637 02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:19,720 Speaker 2: illegal poker. Can you imagine like anytime like Rosier I 2638 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,960 Speaker 2: think is Rosier I think is a handbibling problem. If 2639 02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:25,600 Speaker 2: you're Chauncey Billups and you're talking about ties to the mafia. 2640 02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:30,440 Speaker 2: Run poker. Good luck, man, I'm out splashing the pot. 2641 02:14:30,680 --> 02:14:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm out on that, and I'm also out now your next, 2642 02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:38,720 Speaker 2: Chad Brenda's next. We're done. Bock got it again for 2643 02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,280 Speaker 2: the Friday football Frenzy tomorrow on the Home of the Bengals, 2644 02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:44,480 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Have a great rest 2645 02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:45,520 Speaker 2: of your Thursday. 2646 02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:47,200 Speaker 5: WCKY, Cincinnati. 2647 02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:49,000 Speaker 15: Make us the number one pre said on your car 2648 02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:51,920 Speaker 15: radio and on the Free knew It Improved iHeartRadio add 2649 02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:53,720 Speaker 15: free never sounded so good. 2650 02:15:54,200 --> 02:15:57,880 Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Life Insurance, Why are you putting it 2651 02:15:57,920 --> 02:15:58,000 Speaker 2: all