1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Let's say good morning now too the host of How 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: to Money on KFI. It's Joel lars Guard. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Morning, Joel Morning Amy. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've all heard of door dash, but how 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: about door cash? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: I mean the news of the strange and weird, Like, 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: who thought this was going to be a thing, especially 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: as we're mind being to being more of a cashless society. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: The fact that you can now get cash delivered to 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: your doorstep is this is the weirdest thing. It was 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: the news I was not expecting this week. But this 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: is a Robin Hood initiative, and Robin they just feel 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: like the kind of company who's throwing noodles against the 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: wall to see what's going to stick, and maybe this 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: will be appealing to some of their customers. I don't 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: understand it necessarily myself why you might want to get 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: cash delivered to your doorstep. And the thing is, too, 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: it's going to cost money, like seven dollars to have 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: money delivered to your doorsteps, So it's think of this 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: instead of going to the atm, which really I mean 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: there's like billions of ATMs on every street corner. Instead 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: of going there, you can just have someone bring that 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: cash directly to you and you just pay more. Although 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: I will say ATMs mostly are pretty expensive these days 25 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: unless you have a relationship with a bank that eliminates fees, 26 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: which I recommend. But yeah, it can be really expensive 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: to get money from an ATM as well. But the 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: fact that Robinhood is trying to make this a thing 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: is surprising. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: Well, you know, people spend a lot of money getting 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: food delivered, so maybe they'll be willing to spend the 32 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: money to have cash delivered. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: I know. I agree. I think it sounds ridiculous, but 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: with people being so used to having everything just dropped 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: off between Amazon and food and all of that stuff, 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's part of what we're evolving to. 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: I think it just points to another notch in the 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: belt of the convenience culture that we've all become accustomed to. 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not against convenience, and I think some conveniences 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: are worth paying for it, and they're a lovely part 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: of living in the year twenty twenty five. But then 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: you almost this almost feels like convenience jumping the shark, 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: where it's just you know, we've gone to this next 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: level and you pay for convenience, and so I think 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: it's really important for people to pick and choose the 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 2: conveniences that matter to them. Like for the longest time, 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: I was against grocery delivery and I was just like, 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pay for that. That's ridiculous. And 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: then you know, with three kids and stuff, life gets 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: pretty busy. And I was able to like find some 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: discounted Instacard gift cards and I'm using same day through Costco, 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, this feels like it's worth 54 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: it for me. But I'm really really reticent to bring 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: a new service that costs money into my life because 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: I know what's going to happen is I'm going to 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: get used to it and I'm gonna get used to 58 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: paying for it. And I would prefer to like be 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: more skeptical of anybody claiming that they're going to like 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: make my life better convenience that costs me a lot 61 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: of money, and just the only take these in sparingly, 62 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: like expand your convenience lifestyle sparingly, because it costs. 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Money, exactly. We're just talking about that, like with the 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: streaming services with you and I have talked about before, 65 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: and I was just talking to my friend about like, 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: you get them and then you forget about them, and 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: so you just keep on paying for them. And isn't 68 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: it convenient And isn't it nice to have even though 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: it's costing a fortune? 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And if you need cash regularly, that's cool. 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: And I think we should probably be using cash more 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: as a society. I think there's something mentally that helps 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: us be better about spending when we're actually working over 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: dollar bills. I mean, there are studies about that, like 75 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: what's happening in our brain when we tap a credit 76 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: card versus when we hand over cash. So definitely think 77 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: about using cash more in your day to day life. 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: But be with one of my favorite online banks that 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: has extensive atm networks where you can get your cash 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: for free, or like Schwab. I'm pretty sure they still 81 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: reimburse all the atmpies. They eat it for you on 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: your behalf. And so there are great banks out there 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: that don't charge any ATMPs. So at least consider that 84 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: if you are someone who likes to use cash. 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Okay, and then here's another thing. Did you know that 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Ralphs is now charging you for cash back? No? 87 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so i'stally charging. 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember because I don't do it. I did 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it once, I was like what and didn't really think 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: about it. So now I do it at my pavilions, 91 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: where I still don't. I don't think they're charging. But yeah, 92 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: they started like a year ago. And just kind of went, oh, yeah, 93 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: that's like convenience fee or whatever they're calling it. But 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: there is a female and you get cash back at 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: the grocery store. 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: That's really silly. That's so frustrating because that used to 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: be the easiest. I had to give a twenty bucks 98 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: or something like that when you're buying your groceries. And 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: if they're going to charge for that, yeah, that's an 100 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: annoying that's annoying thing. I can't imagine that's a great 101 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: customer service or most people feel great about that. 102 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of grocery stores, apparently prices are going 103 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: to maybe start coming down. 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: Boy, I hope so. And I mean this is something 105 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: that I was pretty pretty willing to discuss openly before 106 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: you know, the Biation day was coming around. The tariffs 107 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: are not a good thing that they are essentially attacks 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: on the American shopper. And yet you know, the President 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: was really keen on terrafts. He you know, said they 110 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: were like the best word in the in the English language. 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: And what's happened since then is like, you know, we 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: haven't seen quite the increase in prices that many had predicted, 113 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: although I was talking to a friend the other day 114 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: who works for a really big water sports company, and 115 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: he was saying, well, we've been eating them for now. 116 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: We can't do it forever. And I think that's happening 117 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: with a lot of companies. There was inventory build up 118 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: ahead of the terraffs, and then there was a certain 119 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: amount of like taking the punch themselves instead of passing 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: on to the consumers. Those days are quickly ending, and 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: so prices all we are seeing prices ratchet up. And 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: the other thing is at the grocery store in particular, 123 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: some of the tariffs that were levied were on items 124 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: that we're not going to produce, and we can't really produce, 125 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: like coffee, right, We don't grow a lot of coffee 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: in the United States of America. Bananas pretty hard to 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: grow bananas in Alaska, right, So we just saw prices 128 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: climb significantly on those because of terriff and now the 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: President is realizing, well, affordability is the thing that Americans 130 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: care about, seemingly more than anything else, and it's a 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: political issue, and so he's quietly rolling back some of 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: those tariffs. So we might be seeing price rollbacks on 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: some of those things that we've got used to seeing 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: massive price increases on. 135 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: Well, we'll be watching for it, because that would be 136 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: wonderful news. The host of How to Money on KFI 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: is our very own Joel Larsgar. You can hear him 138 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: every Sunday from noon to two right here on CAFI. 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: You can also follow him at how to Money. Joel. 140 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Joel. 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: Thanks Amy