1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'mbs Costin's new radio. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: If you listened last hour, and I hope you did. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me whether you happen to be 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: a believer or a non believer, an atheist or an agnostic. 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: But you listen to doctor Michael Gehan, who for years 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: was the science editor at ABC, taught at Harvard again, 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: just one of those people who you run into and 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: you just say wow, and he happens to have, you know, 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: taken a position pretty strongly. Now, if you if you've 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: missed the the Hour, you'll be able to hear it tomorrow. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Just go to Nightside on demand dot com and if 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: you have any friends who would like to hear it 13 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: and miss the Hour, Rob will have it posted at 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Nightside on Demand dot com sometime by three o'clock this 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: morning when Rob heads home again. The the movie that 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: is coming out, I call it a documentary, but it's 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: it's a movie. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: It is entitled The Invisible Everywhere. That's also the website, 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: The Invisible Everywhere dot calm uh that is active. Now 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: you can go see the trailer. You can next Wednesday, 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: April eighth. Next Wednesday, you will be able to rent 23 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: the movie, by the movie, by the by the movie, 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: whatever you want. If you can host a screening for friends, 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: this will be a worldwide release. But when I watched 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: it today and I got to be honest with you, 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: you know, I happen to be a believer, but it's 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: so reinforced my thoughts. And when he described the difference 29 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: between the brain and the mind, most of us use 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: those terms interchangeably. Anyway, if you listen to the hour, 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: I'd love to get your reaction to it. I wish 32 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: we could have had more callers on during the hour, 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: but lines are open right now. If you listen to it, 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: I'd love to know what you think. Six one, seven, two, five, 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: I have one caller who I'm going to get to 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: right now and continue the conversation. If you want to 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: talk about this, I'd love to hear from you on 39 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: your belief or your lack of belief. There's no judgment. 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: This is a judgment free zone. Whatever you happen to believe. 41 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: I think that there are good people who are atheists. 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: I think there are good people who are agnostics, and 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: there are good people who happened to and believe. I 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: also think there was probably some bad people in each 45 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: of those categories. I firmly believe that if there is 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: a God, and I believe there is a God, that 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: if you live a decent life and a good life, 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: and you treat people with respect, that whatever your background, 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: you could be born in one of the most backward 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: lot of communities in the world and never be exposed 51 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: to religion. I would think that a God would welcome 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: you to the afterlife if you lived lived a good life. 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: Let me go to Jack and Newton again. I'm not 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: a religious reporter here, but I'm interested in what you 55 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: thought about that interview and what you thought about the 56 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: questions or asked. Jack is a Newton. Hey, Jack, thanks 57 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: for holding through the news. I wish I could have 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: gotten you on, but you were just a little late 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: on picking up the phone. How are you going to. 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: Happy Passover? 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Happy Passover tomorrow? That's right by the way. I have 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: a friend of mine who happens to be an eighty 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: five year old Jewish gentleman. No reason for me to 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: identify him, but he has a fairly serious surgery tomorrow 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: afternoon at one o'clock, and I would ask all of 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: my friends, Jewish or otherwise to offer a prayer. He's 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: going to survive it. I hope and pray. But I 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: was talking with him, yes, and he mentioned that unfortunately 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: he is undergoing this surgery at one o'clock at a 70 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: great hospital in the Boston area. And I know he's 71 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: not listening. He may be, but I hope he is, 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: and I hope he's resting up. But if people could 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: offer a prayer for uh on his behalf, I would 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Go ahead, Jack, I didn't mean to change, 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: but thank you for that. We celebrate Easter and I 76 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: know you'll be celebrating Passover. I hope you have a 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: great passover. 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: Well, basically, he's a nice man, but I don't agree 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: with him, no problem, but I but but ironically, I 80 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: do believe in God, but I don't believe that he 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: controls or directs the world. 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he said that. I 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: don't think he from what I watched on the movie 84 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: and I did watch it today, Jack, and I think 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: you'd enjoy it. I think I know you well enough 86 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: to say that to you. I think that I don't 87 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: think that he said that that God controlled the world. 88 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: I didn't pick that up either tonight. How did where 89 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: did you get to that point of view? 90 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just wonder what role does God play in 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: the world. 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 5: I don't. 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: I don't think he indicated in the movie. I think 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: that I've always been taught, at least the Catholic tradition, 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: and I think also the Jewish tradition is that all 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: of us are given free will and we're not programmed 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: to be good or bad. I think that that basically 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: the concept of free will is also part of Judaism, 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: Is it not? 100 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it is. I mean I only heard the last 101 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: ten or fifteen minutes of it, so maybe I didn't understand. 102 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: You know, he wasn't saying. He was not saying. He 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: was not pushing a religion, He was not pushing people 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: to believe. He basically was a someone who was a scientist, 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: for whom science answered all questions. And I've had several 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: sciences say that to me. But he said that. 107 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 6: Questions. 108 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Now I don't know, no, no science. He was saying 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: that science answers all, but he says not anymore. 110 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: He wants God answers this question. 111 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: No no, I don't think that's what he said. I 112 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: think and I want you to listen to the whole 113 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: hour tomorrow nightside and demand. I think what he was 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: really just addressing is the question of did we get 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: here by accident or did we get here under the 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: control that will replaced here by some other other, unimaginably 117 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: complex force. And if you watch, and I hope you do, 118 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: watch this, because I learned a lot about science that 119 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: that this this universe, this galaxy, this these these this 120 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: complex systems, I guess would be one way to describe it, 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: you know, solar systems and galaxies and clusters and superclusters. 122 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: And he explained all of that, the stuff that you 123 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and I learned in school, but we probably didn't really 124 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: appreciate it, or maybe it wasn't presented. It was presented 125 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: in a way in which I get it. I get it. 126 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: And what he's saying is that all of this fits together, 127 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: and it can't be a coincidence. It can't be some 128 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: sort of a natural happening that just came together. It 129 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: had to be put together. It had to be designed 130 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: by something or someone. That's what I think his point is. 131 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me of the debate between Einstein 132 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: and Heisenberg. Heisenberg and the quantum mechanics, says, the world 133 00:07:54,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: is uncertain, there's probabilities, there's chaos, and Einstein said, I 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: don't think God plays with the guys with the universe. 135 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: And then Heisenberg responded back to him and said, how 136 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: does Einstein know what God thinks? So there's always been 137 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: this debate among the greatest minds Einstein Heisenberg. More between 138 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: these two things on chaos uniformity piece, I think evil 139 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: death to add. 140 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: Up with, Yeah, you're in, you're in, you're in the 141 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: in the in the philosophy mansion. But I think you're 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: in a little bit of a different room, is what 143 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. And I think what he's saying 144 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 2: is that that science answered everything for him as a 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: young man, and he got all of his degrees in science, 146 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: and the more that that he understood and the and 147 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: he went into stuff that that I certainly didn't understand. 148 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: But I that I I I'm a scientist. 149 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 2: Well that's then you're gonna benefit You're gonna benefit a 150 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: movie more. 151 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: I will play that we don't have science doesn't have 152 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: all the answers. Social science doesn't have all the answers. 153 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, well, social science is science. When I 154 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: think of social science, I think of that as sort 155 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: of man made sciences, meaning we're talking you know, sociology, psychology, 156 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: and a lot of that is based on theories. You know, 157 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: mathematics does have specific answers two and two is indisputably four. 158 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: We can't you can't disagree with that. 159 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: In my opinion, what we've been trying to have more 160 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 4: you know, scientific principles and and sociation. I get that, 161 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: I get that, but it is still But but I found, 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: after you know, fifty years as a sociologist, I still 163 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: need God. I don't know why I need them. I 164 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: don't know if he even it's controlling anything of that 165 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be, you know, doing a great job 166 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 4: in some ways of so much killing and war. 167 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, but it's not as if I never understood God 168 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: to say, Okay, I'm going to have he's got too 169 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 2: much on his he or she has too much on 170 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: their mind. They're not going to say, you know, Jack's 171 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: going to get up tomorrow and Jack's going to go 172 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: to to the UH, to Johnny's lunch and net and 173 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: have breakfast with d N And you know he's he 174 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: doesn't plan at all. He basically says, here you go, there, 175 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: you go. 176 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: Make Let me tell you that Orthodox Judaism believes that 177 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: but really that everything that we do is planned by God. 178 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: That is that is Judaism, Orthodox Judiism, not but not 179 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: every Jewish Orthodox. 180 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: But I don't think. I don't agree with that because 181 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: in other words, did did did God plan for a 182 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: pedophile to rape a child? I don't think so. I 183 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: don't think that God race question. 184 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: If God controls everything or allows everything, why does he 185 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 4: allow it? You know? 186 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: You know what my father, that's a difference. There's a 187 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: Jewish question between you allow. 188 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: God's on vacation. He's not vucation, and he's letting us 189 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: do all of these crazy things. But he's on vacation. 190 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes I think I think my father was right. 191 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, never never dispute with your father. Hey, Jack, 192 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: I got to run here. As always, thanks for hanging 193 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: it through the news. I appreciate it. 194 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. 195 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: All right, Look I got open lines here. I just 196 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: thought that was one of the best hours of radio 197 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: we've ever had on nights side. If you are a thinker, 198 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: and you know one of the series of this program 199 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: is I don't care what you think. I mean, I'm 200 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: not trying to convince you to think like me. I'd 201 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: like you to think like me and some things. But 202 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: but that's you have a right to think what you think. 203 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: That's what this show is all about, and that's why 204 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: you were treated respectfully when you call, as long as 205 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: you want to be respectful to me, don't be disrespectful. However, 206 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: I got open lines if you want to talk about 207 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: the hour that you just heard six one seven, two, five, 208 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three ten thirty. 209 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk about it, and I'm 210 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 2: talking to you individually and to the group, then I 211 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: will move on to some other subject. But you might 212 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: not be happy with that subject either. You need to 213 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: respond to what we talked about last hour, because what 214 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: we talked about last hour was really incredibly important in 215 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: my opinion and I hope in yours as well. Six 216 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six one seven 217 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. If you were an evangelical 218 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: atheist and want to tell me why, Doctor Michael Giann, 219 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: scientist brilliant person is wrong. Fine, if you were a 220 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: believer as well, if you took anything from that last hour, 221 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you as well. Let's have 222 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: a conversation. Very I don't think we've ever in eighteen 223 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 2: and a half years, which we finished tonight, by the way, 224 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: because we started on October first and October November, December, January, February, March, 225 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: eighteen point five years we finished tonight. This would be 226 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: a great opportunity to join the conversation, and if not, 227 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: we'll talk about something else, simple as that Red Sox 228 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: lost the night. They're one and four six, one seven, 229 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: two five four, ten thirty six one seven, nine three 230 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. I'm coming right back. I hope you're 231 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: still with me. 232 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 233 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: news radio. 234 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking for some reaction to our our our 235 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour. And I know a lot of you 236 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: listen and then you go to bed. Others of you 237 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: drop in and whatever is to get out of the car. 238 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: But if you did listen last hour, I'm not taking 239 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: any credit for it, but it was an outstanding hour 240 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: of radio. Because of my guest doctor Michael Gehan. He 241 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: was a He was the ABC News network medical editor. 242 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: Anyone who can remember back to the nineteen nineties and 243 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: into the two thousands, remember doctor Gien. He actually had 244 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: a near death experience and it's part of the movie. 245 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: He was in a small submarine that well, he was 246 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 2: working as the science editor for ABC News. They went 247 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: down to try to explore the wreck of that Titanic. 248 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: Now this is going to be twenty to twenty five 249 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: years ago, and their small vessel capsule for an hour, 250 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: was trapped in near the wreckage of this saw. But 251 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: he thought that he would never never get out of there. 252 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: And for some reason, somehow, some way, the fellow who 253 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: was in effect steering the sub was able to maneuver 254 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: it to safety, and of course everybody survived. Let me 255 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: go to I Leen at Cambridge. Aileen, thanks so much 256 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: for calling in. How are you tonight? 257 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 7: I'm good and I was very inspired by listening to 258 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 7: Michael Gillian. 259 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. He yeah, it's it's pronounced like the man of 260 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: the old manager, the former manager of the White Sox, 261 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: Ozzie Gien. I thought he was a terrific guest. I 262 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: thought he he he has a way to explain concepts 263 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: that would probably challenge my my limited vocabulary. He was, 264 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: I thought, a really great guest, and I hope you 265 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: enjoyed it as much as I did. 266 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: Well, So next week he's gonna have it. There's gonna 267 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 7: be a one hour, twenty minute documentary. 268 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: Well it's he likes to use the word movie. I 269 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: call it a documentary. And the website is the Invisible 270 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: everywhere dot com. 271 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 8: And it will okay I wrote that down, yeah. 272 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: And it will be available. You could rent it. It's 273 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: the same way you can rent it, you know, through 274 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: your your television screen. I'm sure you can. You can 275 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: buy it also. Organizations can host a screening, you know, 276 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: but by basically they would pay a license fee. I mean, 277 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: this is this is a work of his lifetime. And 278 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: I watched it today. I was stunned at the depth 279 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: of information, the amount of science information that I received 280 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: in that hour and twenty minutes. I was not a 281 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: strong science student. I was okay in physics, but it 282 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: brought together so many things that I had learned at 283 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: different points in time. It just was astonishing to me. 284 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: So I hope you get a chance to see it. 285 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the charge is going to be, 286 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: It's not going to be it's gonna be well worth 287 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: whatever the whatever the charge is. 288 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm definitely gonna try to find it and 289 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 7: watch it and look up more of I'm sure he's written. 290 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you get the correct spelling of his 291 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: last name, if you need it, just you know, give 292 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: me a call during the day or or or send 293 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: me an email. But this last name's Michael, doctor Michael. 294 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: He taught at Harvard for a while. G U I 295 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: L L E N. 296 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 5: So it's almost like, yeah, I got that, I went online. 297 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 8: Uh and uh, look, well if. 298 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: You found it online, then you're gonna you're gonna be 299 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: just fine. That's that's for sure. And I'm gonna want 300 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: to know what you think when you see the when 301 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: you see the movie, because I was just blown away 302 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: by it. I really was. When he explains the difference 303 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: between someone's brain in their mind, I always thought of 304 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: those two words as being interchangeable. What are you thinking 305 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: in your mind? What are you thinking in your brain? 306 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: But he sees it as very different, very very different, 307 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: in terms of what your what your mind is and 308 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: what it's capable of doing and what your brain is 309 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: and what it's capable of doing. 310 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, it better than me. Okay, all right, well I 311 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: appreciate Kay, you call it. 312 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Let's keep rolling. You're going to 313 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: go to Karen out in Wisconsin. Karen, you're next on 314 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: Night Sides. Did you listen last hour? I hope. 315 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 9: Unfortunately I didn't, and I just turned to Jack. That's 316 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 9: when I you know, I heard Jack, but I didn't 317 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 9: hear the story, and I would like to. I can't. 318 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 9: You know, I can't all this renting a movie or streaming. 319 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 9: I don't even have QVS. 320 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, it's well, here's what you can do. 321 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: Okay, here's what you can do, Karen. We will repeat 322 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: that hour on Sunday night. 323 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, okay, some day night. 324 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Sunday night at eleven pm East Coast at my time, 325 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 2: ten o'clock my time. 326 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, right about, it will be Sorry, Dan, I'm sorry. 327 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 9: I didn't mean to interrupt you. 328 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: Well, let me just tell you. It's eleven o'clock Sunday night. 329 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: We run an hour of what we call the best 330 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: of Nightside, all right, and this was the best of 331 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: Nightside this week. So just Sunday night tune in at 332 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: ten o'clock your time, and you'll hear the entire hour replayed. 333 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 9: So I hope that my computer will will work. 334 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 10: But uh, you know I will. 335 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, how do you listen to the show? Do you 336 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: listen to the show and the computer on the radio? 337 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 9: Oh, if the radio only goes a start, and I've 338 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 9: got the best radio, Bob Sea Cream Radio, and it 339 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 9: gets Milwaukee, and then you know, I've tried everything. 340 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: So how do you listen to the show? 341 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 9: Well, then somebody stuck an Alexa in there because it 342 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 9: was cutting off the Uh you know, the computer's old, 343 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 9: and I don't Okay, great. 344 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Karen, I'm up against my break here for the newscast, 345 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: and maybe the next time you could. I was simply 346 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: ask you you listened to my show? Correct? 347 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 9: Yes, how Karen? 348 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Stick with me. 349 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 9: And it comes through there, good, good. 350 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: Well on Sunday on Sunday night, do that at ten 351 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: o'clock and you'll be able to hear the replay of 352 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: the hour that you missed. 353 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 9: Okay, And I just want to mention I did hear Jack, 354 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 9: And all I wanted to say is as far as god, 355 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 9: I just I just want to say I don't really 356 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 9: you know, if there was God, I don't think a 357 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 9: world would be is the way it's going. 358 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay, that's an interesting thought. Thanks, Karen. I got to 359 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: run because I'm into the newscast and I'm gonna get 360 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: fired if I don't say good night to you politely. 361 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: All Right, have a great night, Karen. Thanks for calling. 362 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after the news. At the bottom 363 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: of the hour. I got a couple of open lines here, folks, 364 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: save me six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, 365 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: and I got one line at six one seven, nine 366 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. If you actually listen to the hour, 367 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: last hour and you'd like to comment on what you heard, 368 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: I would be delighted to hear from you. If you 369 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: didn't listen to the hour, I would say, don't bother 370 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: to call and feel free to listen. On Sunday night, 371 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: we will play this Sunday Night, replay it best of 372 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: Nightside back on Nightside. 373 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Right after this, it's Nightside with Dan on w Boston's 374 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: news radio. 375 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones. We're gonna go to 376 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: Alex and Miller. Alex next on Nightside. 377 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 6: Welcome, Welcome Dan. Unfortunately I didn't listen so forgive me, 378 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 6: but I'm going to listen on Sunday. Well what I 379 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: wanted to say is, well, not we. 380 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: Can you listen on Sunday, but if you just go 381 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: to Nightside and demand tomorrow, you can listen to it 382 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. But go right ahead. 383 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 6: Oh God, Okay. I was going to say, I do 384 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 6: believe in God, and some people will say, you know, 385 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 6: he allows, why does he allow what's going on? But 386 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: he doesn't do that. It's a man that does all 387 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 6: the that does all these things. And you know, I 388 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 6: believe there is a God because there's an intricate design. 389 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 6: All of this that you see doesn't happen by chance. 390 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Well that that's pretty much what doctor professor, doctor Michael 391 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: Gian concluded. And when you see this movie again, I 392 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: call it a documentary, but but he calls it a movie. 393 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: And the reason calls it a movie, I'm sure it's 394 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: because it's going more people will be anxious to see it. 395 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: Documentary makes it sound a little highbrow. It's not highbrow. 396 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: He he basically explains a lot of this stuff, this 397 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: scientific information that he explains it so effectively, so efficiently. 398 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: It's like, oh I learned about that, but I never 399 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: understood it. Once you watch this, you're going to not 400 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: only learn about it, but you're going to understand it, 401 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: which which is great, which is so great in my opinion. 402 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 6: Right, And and you know, we have so many religions, 403 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 6: but I think, you know, I have to be Greek Orthodox, 404 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: and I respect the other religions. But it's basically like 405 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: if all these people, if five people that represent five 406 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 6: different religions were going to Boston, their goal is to 407 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 6: go to Boston, they would all use you know, they 408 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: wouldn't all use the same road. So basically they're going 409 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 6: to get to the same same destination. 410 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, again, I got to tell you, if there's 411 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: a god out there, and I do think there is, 412 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: but if there's a god out there, there's only going 413 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: to be one. I mean, you know, if there is 414 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: this all powerful, omnipotent god that has created the universe, 415 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: he's not up there with a competitor, that's for sure, 416 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: in my opinion. 417 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 6: I'm sure. And then as far as I was always 418 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 6: curious animals, you know, a man is uh, you know, 419 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 6: has reason and has a mind and a brain, But 420 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 6: I don't know about animals. If I'm sure some people 421 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: think they have souls. Some people say, you know, animals, 422 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: you know have because because I always wonder, like, you know, 423 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 6: when my dog, he's intelligent, and you know, he provides 424 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 6: what do you call it, unconditional love. So he's basically 425 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 6: like a human that you know kind talk. 426 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 8: I think, you know, well, they're better than. 427 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: A human being because your dog is never going to 428 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: get mad at you. The dog's going to be happy 429 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: every time you walk in the door. And I used 430 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: to joke about my my family and I this is 431 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: a joke, but I used to say that. You know, 432 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: when my dog, Charlie, the Cavalier King child Spaniel was alive, 433 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: my wife would give me lists to do either you know, 434 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: go to the store and get this, or you got 435 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: to fix that. My kids, when they were younger, were 436 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: always looking for money, and then eventually they wanted the 437 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: car keys. Charlie just wanted to hang with you, hocking. 438 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: You hate that, you know, so I just feed him 439 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 6: and walk him. But you know, my dog Apollo, he's 440 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 6: he is a little jealous because in the family, like 441 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 6: my wife gives my son a hug, yeah, he gets 442 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 6: he doesn't like that. And if I'm on the phone 443 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 6: talking and he's near me, he gets upset. He starts 444 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 6: barking because he wants, you know, he wants you to 445 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 6: pay attention to Yeah. 446 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well my daughter's dog, Mustard, who's a core. If 447 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: anybody hugs he thinks they're fighting, and he barks his 448 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: angry bark to basically say he knocked that off. Dogs 449 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: are smart. I mean, clearly everybody knows dogs are smart. 450 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: They're very smart. Alex gotta I let it, gotta let 451 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: your run, gotta keep rolling here. Okay, thanks buddy, talk 452 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: to you, So give Apollo a pet for me again. 453 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: I got some open lines here, which is disappointing because 454 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: I thought if you listened last hour, I'd love to 455 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: hear your comment on it. I thought it was one 456 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: of the best hours of radio that we've ever done 457 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: on Night Side because it's talking about a subject that 458 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: most people have an opinion on, uh, and the opinion 459 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 2: that most people have defies, you know, political categorization. I mean, 460 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 2: it's not that all Democrats think this way, all Republicans 461 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: or whatever think that way. So if you would like 462 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: to join six one seven two five thirty six one 463 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: seven nine, and I'd love to hear from some new 464 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: callers who may have heard tonight's show for the first time. 465 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: This is not what we normally do. I can think 466 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: in the first eighteen and a half years here of Nightside, 467 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: since October one of two thousand and seven, I don't 468 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 2: think we've done a show that you could even characterize 469 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: as remotely religious. So this was clearly a religious based 470 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: show tonight. In that tender stand it, I think that 471 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: people sometimes get intimidated, But no, thank you. Love to 472 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: know if you were listening, and love to know what 473 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: you thought. 474 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 10: Well, I caught the last ten minutes, and anything that 475 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 10: can attract the person to a loving God, it is 476 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 10: great news to me too, you know. And another one. 477 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 10: I don't want to steal the doctor's thunder, but Lee 478 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 10: Strobel was an atheist and he went through the similar 479 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 10: things that the doctor did, and he came to know 480 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 10: God through Jesus Christ personally. So that's another story of 481 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 10: transformation and it's wonderful. So I'm praying that this I 482 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 10: love documentaries. He calls it a movie. I pray that 483 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 10: this will draw people to God and they can realize 484 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 10: that God is a loving God, there's no evil in him, 485 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 10: and that he's neither male nor female. He's a spait, 486 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 10: but he created each and every one of us, and 487 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 10: he wants fellowship. He wants to be everybody's best friend. 488 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 10: But forget to know him is through learning the Bible, 489 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 10: because that's how he communicates to us. 490 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: And again, what I don't want, you know, what I 491 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: don't want to do, Steve is uh. You know again, 492 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to make it this religion to that 493 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: religion because because my my guest from last hour, doctor 494 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: Michael Gien, apparently had the same sort of transformation that 495 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: the gentleman you mentioned had, uh. And he went from 496 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: science answering all the questions that he had and and satisfactorily. 497 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: And he said that he was an atheist. He categorized 498 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: himself as an atheist. But but he wasn't you know, 499 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: someone who was firmly, you know, dedicated. He just wasn't sure. 500 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 10: And anyway, we'll just say this comfort again your listeners 501 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 10: and least strobl as somebody at the Google, and you know, 502 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 10: to get a proper perspective of God, of who he is, 503 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 10: and not to guess with opinions. 504 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: But I don't know, I've never heard of the gentleman 505 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: you're referring. 506 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 10: To let trouble s t r O. 507 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so, so who is he with an organization? You know, 508 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: enlighten me? 509 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 10: Well, if you just google him, you'll find everything out 510 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 10: about him. 511 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna google him right now. Okay, yep, okay, great. 512 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 10: And as a as a movie though too, I can't 513 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 10: the title, I should know it. 514 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: But he's an American Christian author and a former investigative journalist. Okay. Fine, 515 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: So you mentioned his name a couple of times, and 516 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: if he wants to be on the show and you 517 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: want to have them, give me a call, that's fine. 518 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: But I think that the fellow who I had on 519 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: tonight DoD physics at Harvard. From a scientific point of view, 520 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: I think you should. You should check this out as 521 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: everyone should be invisible everywhere dot com up on my break. 522 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate you calling in. Thanks to you. We'll talk soon, 523 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Good night, We'll take a break. Coming 524 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: right back on Nightside. 525 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio. 526 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. I'm gonna go to 527 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Linda in North Weymouth, Linda next on Nightsicker right. 528 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 11: Ahead, Hi, Dan, I so enjoyed that that segment and 529 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 11: that fellow that you had on And I'm so happy 530 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 11: that a scientist is doing a documentary on on on 531 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 11: this subject because there are a lot of people like 532 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 11: that are doubting Thomases that need to be shown proof. 533 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 11: And I think he's he's going to reach a lot 534 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 11: of people through his through his testimony. 535 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think so. And again, the people can check 536 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: it out tomorrow just go to the Invisible Everywhere all 537 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: one word the THHG Invisible Everywhere dot com and there's 538 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: a trailer there which will give you a sense of 539 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: the movie. And then on April eighth, which is a 540 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: week from tomorrow, you'll be able to to buy it, 541 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: rent it, or see it. And I must tell you 542 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: I watched it today and it was it was astonishing 543 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: for me. It was two things. It was one to 544 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: see the evolution of a scientist to go from being 545 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: an avowed atheist and who believed, you know, to his 546 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: to his core that science answered every question about the 547 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: beginning of time and where we came from and all 548 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: of that, and then his core got rocked and he 549 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: continued scientifically. It's not like he had some sort of mystical, 550 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: magical experience that nobody could you know, justify and he 551 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: went ahead. He was effective, uh and and he explained 552 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: stuff that I had learned about in school, galaxies, universes 553 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: and all that. But he just told that this is 554 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: a tapestry. And he brought it all together at the 555 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: end by taking us to some sort of a monastery 556 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: I believe it was in France, where the the people 557 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: are still making, you know, a tapestries, these incredibly complicated 558 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: works of art, and he sort of analogized that to 559 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: what God did billions of years ago. 560 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 11: So well, well, I'm really looking forward to it. 561 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: Me too, me too. I've already seen it, but I'm 562 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: looking forward to the reaction. I think it's I think 563 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: it's a it's an incredible effort that this this man 564 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: has done. Uh and again, this is the ABC Science 565 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: editor for so many years. This is not you know, 566 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: some person who you know nothing about. As I said, 567 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: my friend Steve mentioned some writer. I don't know who 568 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: it is, but uh, I know I know what this 569 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: fellow's bona Fiti's are and they're pretty significant. Linda, thanks 570 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: so much for calling. I appreciate it very much. 571 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 11: We'll talk, thank you, Thank you much. 572 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: Let me go next to Laurie. Hey, Laurie, thank you 573 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: for calling in. How are you. Did you get a 574 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: chance to listen to Michael. 575 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 8: Gian Oh my gosh, yes, I can't wait to see 576 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 8: that documentary movie thing. 577 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call it a movie because I was using 578 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: every documentary he didn't. He disagreed with that, but I 579 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: just thought he's so clear and he takes these concepts. 580 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 2: I had never thought about that. The brain of the mind. 581 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: I was thought, the two are the same. 582 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 8: No controls your thoughts and your psyche. 583 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the brain controls the body. Well, yeah, he 584 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: explained it a little differently. He talked to Yeah, he 585 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: talk a little differently. 586 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 587 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: He was saying that that, you know, the brain works 588 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: while you're awake. Uh. In the mind is what you 589 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: used to dream. And he said, you imagine things and 590 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: it takes you to the past, it takes you to 591 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: the future. You can try with your brain when you're 592 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: conscious to say, oh, I want to remember what it 593 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: was like in first grade or or or my freshman 594 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: year in college. Yeah, you can remember it, but if 595 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: you have a dream about that, it seems so much 596 00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: more real. 597 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 5: It almost Yeah. 598 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 8: Sure, but yeah, he was amazing so I can't wait 599 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 8: to see this thing. I mean, I love the science 600 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 8: part of it. 601 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: And man, yeah, you strike me as a call of 602 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: somebody who is a lot more into science in school 603 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 2: than I was. I mean I knew the names of 604 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: the planets and all of that, but you know that 605 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: was about it, you know, And. 606 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I kind of love that. 607 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 8: I like the concept that you know, there's a bigger 608 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 8: power out there that set it all up for us 609 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 8: and said all right, go ahead and mess it up 610 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 8: or you keep it running clean. 611 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it's been around for a long time. Five 612 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: billion years is what the science has say. That's a 613 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: concept that is impossible. What he was talking about, that 614 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: the universe with the galaxy whatever the phrase is now, 615 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: I guess it's the universe is expanding it even a 616 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: greater velocity. 617 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 7: It. 618 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 2: There's great stuff in there, great stuff. 619 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't wait to see it. 620 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk. Thanks, Thank you, Laurie, appreciate. I've got a 621 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: couple more. I'm going to sneak in here. Okay, thanks, 622 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: all right, let me get real quickly here. I'm going 623 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: to get too in if I can. Florence, I'm gonna 624 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: get you on first. But you've got to be really 625 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: quick for me because you've called Lake go ahead, Florence. 626 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, Dan. 627 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm glad you called you go 628 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: right ahead. Yeah. 629 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: No, I just wanted to say that it's wonderful that 630 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: you attempted this, and it was very interesting. And I'm 631 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: wondering if some of the call it's out there might 632 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 3: have been having difficulty following it. Possibly maybe, But I'm 633 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: a believer from all my life, yeah, and I have 634 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: had situations where it confirms my belief. 635 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: Those those situations. 636 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 5: But he was not dealing He was not dealing in 637 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: He was dealing. 638 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: In pure science, and he was saying science, which had 639 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: convinced him that there was no such thing as a 640 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: god existed, he's saying that same work of study now 641 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: convinces it to the contrary. He said that it creates 642 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: a finger that points to what has to be a god. 643 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 2: That's and I just thought he was good. We will 644 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: use we will use this as our best of on 645 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 2: next Sunday night at eleven o'clock. If anyone wants to 646 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: hear it, they can listen to it tomorrow. They can 647 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 2: tell their friends about it nightside and demand I hope 648 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: everybody spreads the world on this one. 649 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 650 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 2: And then you can go and see tomorrow on your computer. 651 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: Just go to the Invisible Everywhere dot com. You can 652 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: watch the trailer. Thanks Florence. I got one more. I 653 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: got a sneak in for call it. Thanks. Let me 654 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: go finish it up with Bill and Pennsylvania. Bill, you 655 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: got the final about a minute and a half. 656 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 8: Go ahead, Bill, Well, I don't need that long. I 657 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 8: don't need that long down. But hey, you get the 658 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 8: best guests on That's why I'm amazed sometimes. I when 659 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 8: you go back on Fridays and go back over what 660 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 8: you did that week, I just stand there and I go, 661 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 8: Holy cow, where do they get all these guests that? 662 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 8: But that guy was really good. I'm going to go 663 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 8: back on Sunday night because I want my daughter to 664 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 8: see it. And but here's what I got to say, Dan. 665 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 8: You know, I hear these people going fourteen billion years 666 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 8: ago there was a big bang and everything. And then 667 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 8: my question to that is, well, what about the day 668 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 8: before the fourteen billion? 669 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? 670 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a great question, and you will 671 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: find an answer to that question in this movie called 672 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 2: The Invisible Everywhere. Because it's specifically. It deals with all 673 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 2: of the theories that we've we've we've learned about and 674 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: you're right. So I think that's a great question. 675 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 8: You anybody, anybody has grandkids, Okay, when you watch your 676 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 8: grand kids growing up, they're so close to God compared 677 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 8: to adults. 678 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, little kids. 679 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 8: I'm talking about little kids. You know, they get you 680 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 8: don't have You don't have to teach you don't have 681 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 8: to teach a kid to lie. Okay, when they get older, 682 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 8: they're automatically life. You got to teach them not to lie. 683 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you. Hey, Bill, We've done 684 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: a minute and a half, so I got to let 685 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: you go because I'm wrapping the show. Thanks, thanks, man, 686 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: appreciate your loyalty. As simple as that. All Right, we're 687 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: done for the night, Rob Brooks, great job, Rita, thank 688 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 2: you for your help today. And I again I thank 689 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: my guest profusely. You can go tomorrow to listen to 690 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: the ten o'clock or The Hour with Chris Sununu at 691 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 2: nine o'clock, which was a great hour at Nightside and Demand. 692 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: I will be on Facebook Live in about two minutes 693 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: on Night Side with Dan Ray. Join us there, all dogs, 694 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's where my 695 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: pal Charlie Ray is, who passed sixteen years ago in February. 696 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: That's where all your pets are who had passed. They 697 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 2: loved you and you love them. I do believe you'll 698 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: see they begin here comes April. Everybody, We'll see you tomorrow. 699 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: I have a great Wednesday