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Speaker 2: So here's my question to you nerds. All right, here's

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Speaker 1: If you were to take the collective Seattle fan base,

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Speaker 1: Would it be still coming out of the Mariner funk.

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Speaker 1: Would it be the Seahawks and coming off to buy

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Speaker 1: the NBA season starting. Would it be the Husky football

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking you what you would think. I'm just

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Speaker 2: The hell with those people? What would they say? What

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Speaker 3: So it's for me, I think the answer is pretty simple,

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Speaker 3: and it's still the heartbreak. I mean, we are less

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Speaker 3: it's gonna take more than a week to kind of

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Speaker 2: Dick Well, I think.

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Speaker 4: Jackson is right that I think a Seahawk game would

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Speaker 4: I think the Husky game and the way they played

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Speaker 4: I think the Husky fan base with that game on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: So I think for Husky fans, just not all six.

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Speaker 1: But there's a point where the Huskies can get to it,

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Speaker 4: I still think I think I would have agreed with

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Speaker 4: I think now that we turn the page to this

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Speaker 4: I think it's the Seahawks. I think it's the I

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Speaker 1: You're write the letter that John Stanton wrote that we

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Speaker 2: And that's part of it. Like, man, those Mariners, dude, Man, right,

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Speaker 1: Despite what Paul Moyer wants us to do, I don't

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Speaker 1: But you know, you're just sitting there, You're talking to

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's the Mariners. It's the heartbreak of the Mariners.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here right now at the Emerald Queen

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Speaker 2: Man, would we be having the time of our lives?

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Speaker 1: Would, and nobody knows for sure until we're actually there.

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Speaker 1: I think that everybody in Seattle would be walking around

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Speaker 3: You're You're absolutely right. No matter if we were blown

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the collective fan base in sports

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Speaker 3: I'm constantly reminded of we should be here, we should

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Speaker 4: That's interesting because five days ago we were talking about, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I was wrong about myself. I totally surprised myself with

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Speaker 4: I've watched maybe three innings of the of the first

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Speaker 4: I love the bat, the two jacks that they had

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Speaker 4: you'll find out, Jackson, now that we found out twenty

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Speaker 4: It is so I remember like ninety five in two thousand,

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Speaker 1: We got a great team and wet and a half

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Speaker 1: so it does come fast. I just I'm just constantly

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Speaker 2: Have beat these people. We could have beat these sons

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Speaker 1: The Mariners could have won the whole fricking thing if

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Speaker 2: Good, and you've seen what can happen to that offense.

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Speaker 1: I just like being response being reminded every fricking day

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Speaker 3: I'd love to ask both of you, guys, because I've

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Speaker 2: Well? The ninety four Nuggets series is number one. That's

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Speaker 3: And again, I don't think it would have mattered what

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Speaker 1: There was an article in the paper today, or not

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Speaker 2: Did you guys read the article? Keep saying article? Why

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Speaker 1: The letter that was written by John Stanton that was

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Speaker 1: Says it was the toughest return flight of their careers

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Speaker 1: From John Stanton. So I got about four or five

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Speaker 3: it's the contrasting tones between we have work to do, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but John, we also know you have a budget, and

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Speaker 3: it's we've made it very very clear that you have

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Speaker 3: to work within these walls of the budget. So when

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Speaker 3: this work you have to do. How much work is it, John,

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Speaker 3: like when you put it, when you put up the

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Speaker 3: whiteboard of like work to do this offseason? Is it

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Speaker 3: as many boxes as the fans think it is? Because

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 1: It is so little skeptical than Jackson'll but yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dick, got Yeah, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I I would maybe go a little slightly

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Speaker 4: less skeptical than Jackson but not a lot less skeptical

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Speaker 4: than Jackson. I mean, it's one thing to say, I

455
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Speaker 4: know we're gonna get there and there's work to do

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Speaker 4: to take that final step. I think it's another thing

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Speaker 4: to say we are going to do what it takes

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Speaker 4: to take.

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Speaker 5: That final step.

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Speaker 4: And he did not say that, so I think it

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Speaker 4: had he said, had he taken that further, then I

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Speaker 4: would have believed as a fan. Oh wait a second,

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Speaker 4: this run here actually changed John Stanton. Yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that this run changed John Stanton. I

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Speaker 4: think that the number is what the number is, the

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Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty whatever our number was at the

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Speaker 4: end of the year, which Jerry has said that's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the number that starts next year. I think they're

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't know. I mean, I I hope

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Speaker 1: it changed him. I think if it didn't change him,

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Speaker 1: or doesn't motivate him even more so than he already was,

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Speaker 1: then he's not human. There's no way as a human

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Speaker 1: being that you cannot be even more motivated now coming

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Speaker 1: that close to win a World Series and look, I

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Speaker 1: mean doing what it takes. I mean, that's the guy

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Speaker 1: of the beholder, right, Like he may do one thing

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Speaker 1: and say oh, that's what it takes, and we may

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Speaker 1: say no.

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Speaker 2: It's not right.

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Speaker 1: So that's all up for interpretation. And I would just

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Speaker 1: say this, I don't really give it. Damn how much

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Speaker 1: money they spend over the offseason. I don't because I

485
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Speaker 1: just want good players fill the holes.

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Speaker 2: Man. I don't care, and I don't care how you

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Speaker 2: fill him.

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Speaker 1: If you got to fill him by paying a guy

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Speaker 1: fifty million bucks, then fine, that's one way. But if

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Speaker 1: you can get the same guy for five million, great,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean that's what people I think

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Speaker 1: kind of miss here. I don't care how much they spend,

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Speaker 1: as long as they spend the money or get the

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Speaker 1: right player.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how they do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they get a guy from Japan that flies

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Speaker 1: under everybody's radar and he's worth fifty million, but we

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Speaker 1: get him for a quarter million.

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Speaker 2: Great, whatever. I just want good players.

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Speaker 1: That's why people I just cringe when people say things like, well,

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Speaker 1: all you want to do is spend money, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: spending money is spending money on good players. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to spend money on bad players. I want to

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Speaker 1: spend money on good players.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's spending money, other times it's just spending money

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Speaker 4: on over price play.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But if they're good players, and I think they're good players,

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Speaker 1: and there's a reason why I'm doing that because I

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Speaker 2: I don't care how they get them.

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Speaker 1: And the problem for me is that the Mariners historically

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514
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Speaker 1: avenue towards getting those good players, and that's free agents.

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Speaker 2: They haven't done it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, guys, they didn't do crap

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Speaker 5: I was more disappointed going into this season than any

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Speaker 5: other season.

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Speaker 1: Blew a ten game lead with the best ERA in

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Speaker 1: the American League and that didn't motivate him to do anything.

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Speaker 2: Last year nothing, they got lucky with Polanko. Nothing.

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Speaker 1: So let's hope that this run being eight outs away

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Speaker 1: how you get them, just get them. But you cannot

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Speaker 2: There's just no.

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Speaker 1: You sign him and you bring him back to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: You got to improve the bullpen, you got to improve

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Speaker 1: and I don't give a crap how you do it.

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Speaker 1: If it takes spending money, then you should do that.

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the year, I got

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Speaker 5: It looks better now than it did a month ago.

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Speaker 1: Asks for sure, Wazoo has gone toe to toe with

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Speaker 1: But they are recovering machine right now. And until that

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Speaker 1: And when I saw the number on the Wazoo Oregon

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Speaker 1: be favored by maybe seven or eight points.

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Speaker 2: It's three and a half. Three and a half, guys.

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Speaker 1: Oregon State is god all like, they are terrible. If

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Speaker 1: That's how terrible they are. Washington State's not bad. They're

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Speaker 1: not bad at all. The way they've played against all Miss,

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Speaker 1: the way they played against Virginia. They took care of

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Speaker 1: Toledo went home over the weekend, Oregon States getting hammered

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Speaker 1: by everybody. They got one win over Lafayette. Is that

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Speaker 1: even a school? By the way, what is that? That

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Speaker 1: was Lafayette? So I like the Cubs giving three and

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Speaker 1: a half against the Beavers in Corvallis this weekend.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why the spread is what it is,

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Speaker 4: and that, honestly, Dave, that's the.

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Speaker 2: Only thing that scares Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 4: Like because every time you say every time it seems

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Speaker 1: The only thing that would concern me, if there is

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Speaker 1: one thing is this pac twelve brothers in Arms thing

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Speaker 1: They're like, Oh, good to see you, guys. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take it easy on you. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: because like you didn't bail on us the way the

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Speaker 1: Huskies or the Ducks di blah blah blah. Outside of that,

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Speaker 1: if Wazoo plays to their potential, they should win this

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Speaker 4: So what I'm saying there may be a little wink wink,

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Speaker 4: nod nod, because you know, the Cougars and the Beavers

589
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Speaker 4: play twice this season.

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Speaker 2: All they gotta do is win by four.

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Speaker 4: We'll give you the win at Corvallis if we could

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Speaker 4: get No, I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that maybe they show up and they

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Speaker 1: look at it as more of a friendly game, right.

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Speaker 8: Guys, all thing I do is win by four. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's it, just just win by four. And the way

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Speaker 8: They're getting hammered by everybody.

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Speaker 2: They play.

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Speaker 1: Got nothing, they got nothing going on in Corvallis. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen the crowds down there. It's sad, It is

603
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Speaker 1: sad as hell. So give me the coug's baby, let's go,

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Speaker 1: let's keep let's keep this. We're taking the three times now, right,

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Speaker 1: and we should have taken them four times. By the way,

606
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Speaker 1: you talk me out of the Virginia game a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I'm blaming you for that. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, somebody tell Andrews that the the numbers are

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Speaker 1: wrong out of the website. Well we went three and two,

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Speaker 1: but Andrews has you going one and one on the

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Speaker 2: We gotta fix that.

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Speaker 1: No, we went three and two because I went one

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Speaker 3: Are you guys gonna still let me pick? Because I'm

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Speaker 3: ones again? Question you guys letting me pick?

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Speaker 2: Are you losing your confidence. It starts. Okay, the minute

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Speaker 1: Don't at this. We'll make a pick, but we'll assign

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Speaker 1: did not play in the game this weekend ruled out Saturday,

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Speaker 1: blindsighting many in the gambling world. During NBC's Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: Football broadcast, our friend Mike Florio explaining what happened and

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Speaker 1: what punishments could come.

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Speaker 9: When is a player who fully participated in practice not

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Speaker 9: fully participated in practice? It's a complicated question, but it's

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Speaker 9: actually a simple answer, and the rule's been on the

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Speaker 9: books for a very long time. If you're a starter

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Speaker 9: and you don't take all of the first team reps,

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Speaker 9: even if you fully participated, and what Lamar did was

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Speaker 9: participant on the scout team, you were limited.

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Speaker 5: And the Ravens knew this and they got it wrong.

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Speaker 2: He should have been listed as limited. John Hawker, the

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Speaker 2: coach of the team, total reporters after the game.

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Speaker 9: It was an honest mistake, but that still sets the

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Speaker 9: Ravens up for some sort of a sanction. The question

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Speaker 9: is when the league looks into this, will they determine

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Speaker 9: there was some sort of an effort to conceal his

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Speaker 9: true status by saying he fully participated, maybe the Bears

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Speaker 9: would think he's gonna play. If they find something like that,

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Speaker 9: the punishment could be. For now, the Ravens are looking

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Speaker 9: at fines, they're looking at the potential loss and draft

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Speaker 9: picks and even suspensions are on the table based upon

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Speaker 9: what the NFL may find out. A Swords told me today,

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Speaker 9: the NFL understands gave we're having the NBA. It's very

681
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Speaker 9: bad optics and as the source said, it's an opportunity

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Speaker 9: for the league to make a very strong statement on

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Speaker 9: a very important topic.

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Speaker 1: So I think the NFL needs to be really careful here, Dick,

685
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Speaker 1: because of this stuff happening in the NBA right now

686
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Speaker 1: with Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billips and everybody else. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's a real there's always been a part

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Speaker 1: of the fan base in any sport that thinks that

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Speaker 1: it's not on the up and up right. Referees are

690
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Speaker 1: on the chake, they're throwing games whatever. Now this stuff

691
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Speaker 1: with the NBA comes out, Now, this stuff with you,

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Speaker 1: This is bad timing for the NFL to have this

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Speaker 1: story come out the same week gets craped with the

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Speaker 1: NBA goes down.

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Speaker 2: So is it possible that it was an honest mistake, Sure,

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Speaker 2: it is totally.

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Speaker 1: I wonder though, if it's time for the NFL to

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Speaker 1: kind of have a third party, independent organization that actually

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Speaker 1: judges this stuff instead of leaving it up of the

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Speaker 1: coaches and staff to report it back to the league.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you be surprised though, if this violation reached suspension?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 5: I mean there might.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that.

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Speaker 5: There might be fine.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you a Goodell's pissed, though, yes, pis.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Harba might get slapped, The ownership might get slapped.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's gonna be anything. I don't

709
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Speaker 1: think so either, But I just think they gotta be

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Speaker 1: really careful. And I again, you know, having having an

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Speaker 1: independent organization that judges this stuff, that reports back to

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Have some bookworms, some computer dork or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Some guy with a pair of binoculars stands there at

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Speaker 1: practice and says, here's what I saw, and then he reports.

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Speaker 2: Back to the NFL. Right, and it's totally out of

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Speaker 2: the team's control. That'd be easy to do, to do.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go. May Did you happen to

719
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Speaker 2: hear that?

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Speaker 5: What's that dick?

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Speaker 2: Yesterday on the.

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Speaker 1: NFL and Fox pregame show, Terry Bradshaw explaining how we

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Speaker 1: talked to a pig dealer instead of Andy Reid last week.

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Speaker 10: But the thing that I would worry about more so

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Speaker 10: in Washington is at the end of the day, I

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Speaker 10: text Andy Reid and I got a text back, and

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Speaker 10: I thought it was Andy Reid, But it's some guys

728
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Speaker 10: selling pigs, but I found it good.

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Speaker 11: I shouldn't have told you all that, so y'all would.

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Speaker 10: Have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I

731
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Speaker 10: didn't really know people.

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Speaker 6: I wish you could send people behind as because.

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Speaker 1: They're like I think he was looking for a laugh.

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Speaker 1: I think Terry was looking for a laugh that never came.

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Speaker 1: And it's so bad. Like when Deshaun Foster did that

736
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Speaker 1: thing at Big Media Day, when you're purposely trying to

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Speaker 1: look for any guy. He's like, hello, Hello, anybody, anybody?

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Speaker 1: Thank you to the guy in the back who starts

739
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Speaker 1: laughing his butt off. Here's the thing about Terry Bradshaw,

740
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Speaker 1: that man is he is he kind of going down

741
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Speaker 1: the road of Leeke Horso or it might be time

742
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Speaker 1: to step aside. He's seventy seven, he hasn't played for

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Speaker 1: forty three years. I mean, this would be like when

744
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Speaker 1: you and I are like eight nine years old watching

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Speaker 1: somebody on TV.

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Speaker 5: That Red Green played in like the thirties.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean it might be time to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's get Terry key to the city and

749
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Speaker 1: move on.

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Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: I stopped watching pregame shows when I was like.

752
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Speaker 2: Twelve, Yeah, I don't either, So I don't.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you how lost Terry Bradshaw is. I

754
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: only see it from clips like this, so I I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can't observe it and say, hey, oh yeah, he's

756
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Speaker 4: definitely lost.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't watch it either. I mean, I'm toty William.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't have any interest in watching the

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Speaker 1: talk shows on ESPN. And You're a big fan of

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, but I'm not into that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: into the pregame shows. I don't have the patients for it.

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Speaker 1: I really have the patience to get through a game. Now,

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Speaker 1: you want me to watch a two hour pregame show.

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Speaker 1: Forget that? Jackson three, four, five, you pick which, Let's

766
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Speaker 1: go to five?

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Speaker 2: Five? All right? Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?

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Speaker 5: What's that?

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Speaker 2: Dick?

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Speaker 1: Last week on ESPN tip Off, the former NBA on

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Speaker 1: TNT crew, including Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith, talked about

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Speaker 1: the ongoing NBA gambling scandal.

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Speaker 11: We have to realize it. Gambling is an addiction. The

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Speaker 11: addiction of it is what makes you make illogical decisions.

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Speaker 11: The last time I let you talk, Chuck, I will

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Speaker 11: wish because you're making me mad right here. Well, that

777
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Speaker 11: can make you mad, and you can make me mad.

778
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Speaker 11: I just have my opinion. You're gonna have yours. Man,

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Speaker 11: This ain't got nothing to do with damn gambling addiction.

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Speaker 11: This ain't got none to do with addiction. These dudes

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Speaker 11: are stupid. Why are they stupid? Under no circumstances? Can

782
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Speaker 11: you fix basketball games? Under no circumstances? Rosia makes twenty

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Speaker 11: six million dollars him bending giving people information or or

784
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Speaker 11: taking herself out of games? How much is he gonna

785
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Speaker 11: benefit taking himself out the game to get unders Well,

786
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Speaker 11: if he did that, you're proving my point. What do

787
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 11: you mean that a logical process? If you're making twenty

788
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Speaker 11: six million dollars to try to win fifty thousand, like,

789
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Speaker 11: that's illogical, So that you're proving my point.

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Speaker 1: That's not an addiction.

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Speaker 2: That's stupid.

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Speaker 11: The same reason though someone goes and uses drugs, when

793
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Speaker 11: they drugs are drugs are addiction, they are gamlan addition,

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Speaker 11: let's just told its stupid. We own those two dudes.

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Speaker 2: Part Okay, So I think they're both right.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an addiction, and you can be an idiot.

797
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible to be an addicted idiot, okay,

798
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Speaker 1: And I think that there's certainly a chance that these

799
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Speaker 1: guys like who is it coming out there to day

800
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Speaker 1: shack how much money you need?

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're addicted to.

802
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: Something and you get your jolly's off something, whatever that is,

803
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Speaker 1: I don't care how much money you make. When you

804
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Speaker 1: have that kind of power over people and you can

805
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: make money and you're addicted to winning bets, it can

806
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: be absolutely addicting, There's no question about that. And you

807
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: can be a moron, which Terry Rogier is a moron.

808
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: You just see the story that came out about him

809
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Speaker 1: texting this guy when Lebron was not playing.

810
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Speaker 2: It's like, are you dumb? You're texting this to somebody.

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Speaker 1: How about you pick up a phone and you call

812
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Speaker 1: somebody and don't leave a paper trail, you moron.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable. And by the way, Dick.

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Speaker 1: This is all coming off the Johntey Porter crap from

815
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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago and when he got

816
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: busted and banned for life.

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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: See, I'm glad you brought John day Porter up because

818
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 4: that's the type of player I thought would get caught

819
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: up in something.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: He was on a one year, two million dollar contract.

822
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Now, two million.

823
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Speaker 4: Dollars is a lot to me, and you yes by

824
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Speaker 4: that when you're on a one year contract and you

825
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 4: may never see that money again. And somebody's like, here,

826
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Speaker 4: here's a quarter of a mill to do this, right

827
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Speaker 4: or one hundred and fifty, that's significant when you're Terry

828
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Speaker 4: Rose here to Chuck's point, like, what the hell are

829
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

831
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Speaker 4: You're risking throwing sure, avoiding your quarter of a billion

832
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Speaker 4: dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: You may have lost a bunch of money though. That's

834
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Speaker 1: the thing because he's addicted. This is where it comes

835
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Speaker 1: back to addiction.

836
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Speaker 4: But his next paycheck is going to be as much

837
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Speaker 4: as what the what he would have won in this.

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Speaker 1: What if he was fifteen million bucks in the hole

839
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Speaker 1: to a bookie who knows. We have no idea, We

840
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: have no idea what he was, what he owed and

841
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: who he owed it to. He may have owed more

842
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Speaker 1: than he makes in the NBA. I have no idea

843
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: what this guy was doing. So I think they're both right.

844
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Speaker 1: I just think again, when the stories come out that

845
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: he was texting somebody about Lebron James not playing. That's

846
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: where Chuck comes in, and he's exactly right that you

847
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Speaker 1: gotta be a world class dipstick to do something like that.

848
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Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta be just stupid as hell to

849
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Speaker 2: do something like.

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Speaker 1: That, all right, three fifty seven Hugh Millan, who's not

851
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Speaker 1: stupid as hell. No, he'll join us next A little

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Speaker 1: more four with you coming up on ninety three three

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Speaker 1: KJRFM