1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: It's night with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm telling you Boston's Radio. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: My thanks to my friend Reverend Kevin Peterson of the 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: New Democracy Coalition. We will stay on this story, uh, 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: and again with them all due respect and apologies to 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to Radiant Jasmine of Randolph. If if only some more 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: federal monies or some more programs could solve these problems. Now, 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: these problems are much deeper and much more serious than that. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: You may have kids, uh, you know, now, kids get 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: breakfast lunches in schools, there's after school programs. Uh. The 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: more the merrier, most kids take advantage of those programs. 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: And most kids, whatever their background white, black, pink, polka dot, 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: purple or whatever, brown Asian, Uh, they want the same 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: thing that they want to do well in school. They 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: want to to uh, to improve their lot in life. 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: But you have within the murdered triangle, you have some 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: kids who are dealing drugs, and you have some kids 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: who are maybe fence fencing weapons. And it's there in 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: lies the problem. And the police have had long enough 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: to figure out who the bad apples are. And I 21 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: don't know why. And it isn't It isn't the police 22 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: in the street. It isn't the patrolman. It's the the 23 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: police who have been politicized. Okay, I can't give Commissioner 24 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Cocks to come on this program because he knows he 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: would be asked tough questions. That's fine, That's fine, but 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I'm going to know the problems that 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: that are not being addressed in Boston. So I now 28 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: do want to change topics because I had promised uh 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: in our in our pregame. 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But everyone 49 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: seems to be stunned that President Trump has reversed himself. 50 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: The New York Times article today by Ashley On published 51 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: updated today this afternoon, President Trump says House Republicans should 52 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: vote to release Epstein Epstein files. President Trump reversed himself 53 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: as he faced the prospect of dozens of Republicans could 54 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: vote this week to compel his administration to release files 55 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: related to Jeffrey Epstein. Look, I got to believe at 56 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: this point that Donald Trump has a pretty good idea 57 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: of what's in the Jeffrey Epstein files. I'll tell you 58 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: who does have a good idea what's in thee the 59 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Epstein files is former heart Verard president Larry Summers. Here's 60 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: an article today in which the former Treasury secretary and 61 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: president of Harvard said he was stepping back from all 62 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: public commitments, a mid fallout from the release of emails 63 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. 64 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: This is. 65 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: A statement that he released. It's an interesting statement. Former 66 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Larry Summer said Monday he was stepping back 67 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: from all public commitments, a mid fallout from the release 68 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: of emails between him and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Quote. 69 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: This is his quote a statement he made to c NBC. Quote. 70 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the 71 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for my 72 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: misguided decision to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote, Somers 73 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: said in a statement obtained by CNBC. He continues, quote 74 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: while continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations, I will be 75 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: stepping back from public commitments as one part of my 76 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: broader effort. Little unclear, said Somers, who's former president of 77 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: Harvard University and who teaches at the school. Somers is 78 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: a member of the board of Open AI. He's also 79 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: a columnist for Bloomberg News. This was a report that 80 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: was quoting from CNN. You know, look, Donald Trump is 81 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: done on one point eighty okay, and you almost wonder 82 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: and I don't know. Maybe the Epstein files will be 83 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the OA king gun that brings down Donald Trump. I 84 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: don't think so, but maybe with these twenty thousand emails. 85 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: So what is Trump's playing here? My thought is, has 86 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: he done a Mohammad Ali ropidope, meaning he's absorbed all 87 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: the shots here and now he's saying release the files. 88 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea what credibility Jeffrey 89 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: Epstein would hold. I have no idea what credibility Juzayn 90 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Juselene Maxwell would hold. They were both trafficking in underage girls. Allegedly. 91 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Epstein's dead. He never went to trial in the federal charges. 92 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: Maxwell has been convicted, she continues. She continues to assert 93 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: her innocence. I don't believe either one of them. Epstein, 94 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: from everything that I have read, was a total pedophile, pervert, 95 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Okay, whatever you want 96 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: to call it. Let's see lit it lit Well, this 97 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: is the president yesterday, okay, And I'm gonna play it, 98 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: and then I want to hear from you. I mean, 99 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump is implicated in this, why would he 100 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: release these emails or why would he want people to 101 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: release these emails? This is what he's saying. We're all 102 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: adults here. I want to know your interpretation. Cut a Rob, 103 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: please cut at. 104 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats. All 105 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: of his friends were Democrats. You look at this redof 106 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: and you look at Larry Summer's built Lynn they went 107 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: to his island all the time, and many others oral democrats. 108 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: All I want is I want for people to recognize 109 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: a great job that I've done on pricing, on affordability, 110 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: because we brought prices way down, but they go. 111 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Way lower on energy. 112 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: On ending eight wars and another one coming pretty soon. 113 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: I believe we've done a great job, and I hate 114 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 4: to see that deflect from the great job we've done. 115 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what he said yesterday. Cut be Rob. 116 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm all for it. You know we've already given fifty 117 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: thousand pages. 118 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: You do know that. 119 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy situation, with the Martin Luther 120 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: King situation, not to put Jeffrey Epstein in the same category. 121 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: But no matter what we gave, it's never enough. You know. 122 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: With Kennedy, we gave everything and it wasn't enough. With 123 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: Martin Luther King, we gave everything and it's never enough. 124 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: We've already given I believe the number is fifty thousand pages. 125 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 4: Fifty thousand pages, and it's just a Russia Russia Russia 126 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: hoax as it pertains to the Republicans. 127 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, he's been pretty unequivocal there. I mean, I'm holding 128 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: ont of these sound bites one more cut, see Rob. 129 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: I believe that many of the people that we some 130 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: of the people that we mentioned are being looked at 131 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: very seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein, but they 132 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: were with them all the time. 133 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't at all, and we'll see what happens. 134 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: What I just don't want Epstein to do is detract 135 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: from the great success of the Republican Party, including the 136 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: fact that the Democrats are totally blamed for the shutdown. 137 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, they cost our country hundreds of billions of 138 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 4: dollars with it at a lot of inconvenience. So I'm 139 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: for and they can do whatever they want. We'll give 140 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: them everything. Sure, I would let thet said it look 141 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: at it, let anybody look at it, but don't talk 142 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: about it too much, because honestly, I don't want to 143 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: take it away from us. 144 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: It's really a Democrat problem. 145 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 4: The Democrats were Epstein's friends. 146 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: All of them. And it's a hoax. The whole thing 147 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 2: is a hoax, and I don't. 148 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: Want to take it away from really the great gess 149 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: of what the Republican Party has accomplished over the last 150 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: period of time. 151 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Here's where I think Donald Trump makes a mistake. He 152 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: weaves three or four theories within a forty second sound bite. 153 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: There was a question where you signed the bill if 154 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: it passes the House and Senate, it may it may 155 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: pass in beetle proof. So he said he'll sign it. 156 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: These are statements he made, I think, in part today, 157 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: some of them wraps last night as he was heading 158 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: to the plane to fly back to Washington. If if 159 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: he knows that that Epstein has or his emails have 160 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: him dead, to ride that he's only dug hisself a 161 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: bigger hole because he's denying everything. So there's no equivocation there. 162 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: He can't say, well, you know, I was introduced to 163 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: someone and I didn't realize that what I have. You know, 164 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: there's no equivocation. What is his plan? 165 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 5: Now? 166 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's certain that there's nothing there. I don't 167 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: think it's necessarily going to go away as a story. 168 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: Obviously Epstein, who he had some level of friendship with 169 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: for some time. Bad guy bad guy trafficked in underaged children. 170 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,359 Speaker 1: Well not children maybe, but you know young girls, teenagers. 171 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Bad guy bad guy did it for himself, did it 172 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: for him to influence other people. Uh, President has made 173 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: a decision. From his perspective, he'd better be right. If 174 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: he's wrong, say hello to President jd Vance. We're going 175 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: to go to phone calls. I want to know what 176 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you think Donald Trump's game is. Is that is he 177 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: recognizing the inevitable and that the votes are not there 178 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: to stop this, and he's saying, okay, go ahead. Or 179 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: did he allow allegations to be made which he knows 180 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: are not true. He may have, clearly he spent time 181 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: with Epstein. They may have stood side by side and 182 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: oggled young women. Or they may have agled other older 183 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, adult women. H They may have they may 184 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: have exchanged licentious emails. I don't know what we're gonna find. 185 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I tried to go over as much of them as 186 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: I could, UH in the last couple of days, and 187 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: I watched What What CNN and others who I knew 188 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: would pull out the most condemning emails. Didn't see anything, 189 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't see anything, which which was which was going to 190 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: nail him? We'll see six one seven two thirty six 191 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: one seven nine. Let's get right to it. Coming back 192 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: on nightside. This is a very quick break. Join the conversation. 193 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Light the lines up, and we'll take this until midnight. 194 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: We were going to do two hours with it. We 195 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: will do another forty minutes. Join the conversation. Coming back 196 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: on night side. 197 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 198 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: news radio. 199 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: All right, I will take them as they came in, 200 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: going to Joe and Belmont first. Joe, you are first 201 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: this hour on night Side. I got a bunch of calls. 202 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: You can run ahead, Joe. Dan. 203 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 6: This is in a fact, it's hunch, But I believe 204 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 6: that Trump realized that the silent majority of the Republican 205 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: Party was against them, so he uh he wanted to 206 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: uh have the files released. 207 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: So if if this materials in the files which show 208 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: that he trafficked in the activity that Epstein allegedly trafficked in, 209 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: He's done as a president. See you later, Dan. 210 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 6: I believe that he said he had nothing to hide. 211 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 6: I believe that's the truth. 212 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: Well if it's if it is the truth, okay, uh, 213 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and he has nothing to hide, he's going to be fine. 214 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: That's all. I mean. You and I would agree on that. 215 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Would you agree with me if the stuff in the 216 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: in the emails that is inculpatory, that basically shows that 217 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: he engaged in the activity that that that Epstein purportedly 218 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: engaged in or you know, helped helped other men, older 219 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: men participate in. He's gone at that point. 220 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, But what if he did he did nothing or I'm. 221 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Saying that's what that would Maybe he didn't. I don't know. 222 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: I have seen nothing that implicates him. He obviously, at 223 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: a point in time was a friend of Epstein, and 224 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure that that that despite their their difference in ages, 225 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they were you know guys who probably 226 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: exchanged you know, emails, which they wouldn't be proud of. 227 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 1: But that's different from you know, getting on an airplane 228 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: or flying to Lolita Island and engaging in activity that 229 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: purportedly went on there. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, Joe, 230 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: And could. 231 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 6: I make a comment on the turnarounds of moduley Teala Green? 232 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: I think it has something to do with the turnarounds. 233 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: We'll go ahead. I prefer I prefer not to, but 234 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. 235 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 6: She said that she wouldn't worship or serve Trump, and 236 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 6: I admire her courage because I wouldn't worship Trump as 237 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 6: a godard or an idol or a president or a 238 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 6: man either. 239 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, Well, I think she's kind of a nut 240 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: job and she's she's she's about as as predictable as 241 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. Look, she's she The left loves 242 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: her now because she's going after Trump. They thought she 243 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: was a nut job. I think she's still a nut job. 244 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: But Trump called her a trader. 245 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Well whatever, you know that that sort of stuff is. 246 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: It just takes the eye off the ball. Let's the country. 247 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Let's get the country back together, and then we can 248 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: they can engage in their their silliness. Okay, thank you, 249 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you a man, thank you, Joe. Let me 250 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: go to my friend Harvey Silverglade. Harvey, thanks for checking in. 251 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to get your take on because you knew Trump, 252 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: you negotiated and and and litigated against Trump. I know 253 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: you hold him in very low esteem, which is which 254 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: is perfectly understandable. But what do you think his plan 255 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: is here? Okay, I'm very. 256 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 5: Familiar with the hold Jeffrey Epstein thing as well. Yep, Okay, 257 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: here's let me start from the top. Sure, I think 258 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: the reason Trump has decided to let release these papers 259 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 5: is scause he realized is that he doesn't it's going 260 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 5: to be leaked out, leaked after painful leak, and he's 261 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: decided that he is going to tell his story a story, 262 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: whether it's true or not. I have no firsthand information, 263 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 5: but I'm no Donald Trump fan, but I think that 264 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: there is a gigantic guilt by association thing going on here, 265 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 5: unless I mean there are photographs of him with his 266 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 5: arm around Jeffrey Epstein. 267 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, this is. 268 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 5: Not proof of anything other than the fact that they 269 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 5: were friends. And if there's no evidence that he was 270 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 5: in the abuse ring, then I think he should let 271 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 5: it all hang out. And he's de sored he's going 272 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: to do that. Now, let me go on to Larry Summers. 273 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: I'm a friend Larry Summers, not a close friend, but 274 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 5: a friend. Sure, I think it's a huge mistake for 275 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 5: him to step out of essentially public life. He also 276 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 5: hold around with Epstein, but there is no evidence that 277 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 5: he did anything wrong, and I think it's a gigamic 278 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 5: mistake to feed the public paranoia about this. 279 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, counsel, let me if I can't just ask you 280 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: one question. I read earlier his statement that he released today, 281 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: and I want you to help me decipher that statement. Okay, 282 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: if you have just and you know, there's nobody I 283 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: respect more than you. You know that. I hope you 284 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: know that by now, Somers wrote, quote, I am deeply 285 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: ashamed of my actions odd word and my and recognize 286 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: the pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for 287 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: my misguided decision, and that's period after they have caused. 288 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Second sentence, I take full responsibility for my misguided decision 289 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: to continue communicating with mister Epstein. Unquote. My question is 290 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: odd choice of words. I'm ashamed of my actions his 291 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: choice of words. Would you, if you were his counsel here, 292 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: would have you counseled him that that's a bad word 293 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to use under these circumstances. 294 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: I think that that it's a bad word because it 295 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 5: conjures up in people's imaginations all kinds of things. Right, 296 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 5: it is the wrong word. But he is ashamed of 297 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 5: his association with Epstein. That's okay, he has no reason 298 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: to be ashamed of his association with Epstein. 299 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Well, he refers to it as my misguided decision to 300 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: continue communicating with mister Epstein. There's sort of a time 301 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: consideration when you say my misguided decision to continue. So 302 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: they had to come to a point where he's saying 303 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: I should have been small enough at a I think 304 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: my interpretation is I should have been small enough at 305 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: a point to have ceased the communication. That's how I 306 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: read that. Is that unfair? 307 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: No, I think you're right, that's what Summers is saying. 308 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 5: But I don't think he has to apologize for communicating 309 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: with a proven pedophile and an abuser of women. It's 310 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 5: not my choice. It wouldn't be my choice of friends 311 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: in the first place. 312 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: Sure, of course, not, of course not. But so what 313 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: of say is why release that statement? Why not have 314 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: released a statement which was more ambiguous. It almost seems 315 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: to me when he when he uses the phrase my actions, 316 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: he's deeply ashamed of my actions. It cries out, what actions, missus, 317 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: President Somers, are you talking about. 318 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: I think the release of the statement was a huge 319 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: mistake because the public is asking now what action? That's 320 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: the question people are asking me. And the release of 321 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: this statement, which presumably his PR people had a hand in, 322 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: was a huge mistake because it's getting people's imaginations going, 323 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: I'm with you, huge mistake. I read it. I was 324 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: shocked that somebody advised him with somebody didn't advise him 325 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 5: to just keep his mouth shut. 326 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Harvey as always. Uh, you know, I I really appreciate you. 327 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: You're you're checking in particularly on this point, and I 328 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: I am gratified that that we're in in some accord 329 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: as to our the wisdom of that that relatively short statement. 330 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's probably no more than thirty five or 331 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: forty words of that statement. 332 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 5: I don't make one point. 333 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely the. 334 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 5: Same guilt player association. Yes, hit my friend Alan Thurschowitz. 335 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: I know that, And you know Alan represented him and 336 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 5: made the mistake of becoming too friendly with a client. 337 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: I have never become friendly with a quiet I keep 338 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 5: my distance. 339 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: But I don't believe I don't believe that Alan would. 340 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: And I know Alan. You know him much better, but 341 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I know him pretty well. I don't believe, knowing Alan, 342 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: that he would have been dumb enough to have done 343 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: anything more than represent Epstein and Alan. 344 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm confident he does. He I'm confident I know Alan 345 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 5: went up to know that that's not his thing. Yeah, 346 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 5: but I also can tell you that every time he 347 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 5: was a Epstein's Island and I wouldn't have gone socially 348 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 5: with a client in any event, but he had his 349 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: wife with him. 350 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Right, So I mean yeah, and I think that Alan's 351 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: denials there's a there's a ring of truth in the 352 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: way in which Alan made his denials. Summers should have 353 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: used Alan as a lawyer here. He couldn't have. 354 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: Probably absolutely, advisor. 355 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: You got it, Harvey, you are the best, my friend. 356 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: As always. We'll talk soon, Thanks buddy. Okay, bye, Thanks 357 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: great Harvey Silverglate. We'll take a quick break here in 358 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: news at the bottom of the hour. It's Night Side 359 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: with Ray and. 360 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: Boston's News Radio. 361 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Let's go to Bob and Rhode Island. Bob, welcome back. 362 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: I did I have a theory why Trump is saying 363 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: release the Epstein emails? 364 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: All right, I'm looking for anyone's theories ahead. 365 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, okay, I'll tell you He's just going after 366 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 5: Democrats like Bill Clinton and saying if you're gonna persecute 367 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 5: me about what I did with Epstein? Why don't you 368 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 5: persecute the Democrats that are so called as guilty as 369 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 5: Trump is. He's one scared. That's why he's permitted on 370 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 5: about face on his saying release let let them, let 371 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 5: them take a vote. He's running scared on that too, 372 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: because he knows he's gonna lose because the Democrats Republicans 373 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: are gonna side with the Democrats and say this is 374 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: gonna be relieved. 375 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, that that's kind of like a much kind of 376 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: like a mutual suicide pact. 377 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 5: Because no, no, no, he's blaming the Democrats because he says, 378 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: if it's good for me, it's good for the Democrats too, 379 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: like Bill Clinton. But it didn't make you money better 380 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 5: than Bill Clinton. Bob, and we've got you in office, Bob. 381 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you a question, Okay, because 382 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: I admire your your intellect here, Okay, let's assume that 383 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: in the emails are real indications, you know, approaching the 384 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: level of evidence that Trump engaged in the sort of 385 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: activity that apparently Epstein was peddling. He's done as president. 386 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: He'll be impeached with him within a month. 387 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: Yah, see he wants to be a motyl at this point. 388 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's a different that he'll be alim in that one. 389 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean the statute of limitations. 390 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: But you don't feel sorry. 391 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: At all, And I know that, I don't know does. 392 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: She feel sorry for? Ask who who was the one 393 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: that brought up the court because she was a he 394 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 5: had sex with her? 395 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: Who you're talking about Clinton or Trump? 396 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 5: Trump? 397 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: Well? 398 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, uh yeah, what what was your prostitute? Whatever she was? 399 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's why that's a whole different scenario in that, 400 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: not that that anybody is suggesting that's a good thing, 401 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: but that's a. 402 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 5: Saying it's a good thing. 403 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no said, just hang with hang with me 404 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: for second above. Okay, what I'm saying he was in 405 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, where I'm not sure if prostitution is legal. 406 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: But she was an adult, she was a porn star. 407 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: We're not talking about that. We're talking about whether or 408 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: not any of these guys engaged with, uh with sexual 409 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: activity of girls under the age of fourteen, fifteen, sixty. 410 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 5: I'm worried about, yeah, Dan, and he's worried about the 411 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 5: young girls. Very upset about the whole thing, and going 412 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 5: to bring him to trial or epsign to trial, and 413 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 5: Trump's so. 414 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: Epstein's are going to trial. He's dead. Trump wouldn't be 415 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: going to trial because there's probably a statue, no statue 416 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: of limitations. 417 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: He's going to be dead period in public life. 418 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: All right, bear it up. All right, you made it, 419 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: and that's your second call in the role. You didn't 420 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: get planked. Congratulations, Dan, I appreciate it. 421 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: Thank you already, shower tonight, thank you. 422 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: I enjoy good night. Let me go next to Sachi 423 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: in saga, Sachi you're next night, saga Right ahead. 424 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 5: Man. 425 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 7: You know, I think that if you don't know how 426 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 7: to swim, if the water goes about your head, for 427 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 7: they for his own one feet or fifty feet, doesn't 428 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 7: make a difference. 429 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Well you can be okay at one feed you can 430 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: stand up. Let's say, if you don't know how to swim, 431 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: whether it's ten feet or fifty feet, yeah, you go ahead, 432 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sorry. 433 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 7: So basically that's why Trump is going for it, saying okay, 434 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 7: let's put it out because it's it's actually I think 435 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 7: he's going to drown either way. I worded for him. 436 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 7: You know, I like Trump, but things a lot of 437 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 7: things doesn't coming out, It's like Sammy Day, sorry about 438 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 7: the prostitutional that you paid off the girl. Then you 439 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 7: know locker room talk, you know, like one by one. 440 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 7: So now he's probably probably going to give up and say, hey, 441 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 7: let's go open up all the fire and like the 442 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: previous caller, he's going to go, you know, you're going 443 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 7: to say, Okay, Clinton did it. 444 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Well. I don't know that that gets him off. Clinton 445 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: is no longer president. He is, so Clinton can't be 446 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: impeached at this point. But I think that if there 447 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: is evidence in the emails, I don't understand why he 448 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: would be doing this one eighty That's all I can't 449 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: That's when I can't fathom at this point. 450 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 7: The one one thing I'm a little worried about is 451 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: what's going to you know, if he says if it 452 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 7: comes out and he will signed for some you know reason, 453 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 7: what's going to happen to the ballroom, all the things 454 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 7: that he destroyed at the White House, what is going 455 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 7: to happen to. 456 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: That the ballroom? Well, the ballroom I think is still 457 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: going to be built. He claims that there's private funding 458 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: so forth, So that would be the least of his 459 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: problems as far as I'm concerned, Satch. Well, you know, look, 460 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you offering a theory on it. 461 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: It's a different if you have to notice it. Yp 462 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 7: Morgan cheez. They were also backed off from donating money 463 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 7: for the ball room. 464 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: I didn't, Yeah, I did not, but. 465 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 7: Was also listed on the Epstein fire. 466 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah again, I haven't read all the emails. If that's true, 467 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't know. Okay, I'm seriously, I I 468 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: you've been called before, You're always reliable, so that's that's fine. 469 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I have I have not heard that. 470 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: Okay, my el is still. 471 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 7: You know, we can't call it a Trumps small room 472 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 7: after you know, ya again, that's the least of this 473 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 7: will be, you know, that's the least of this. 474 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: That's the least of his problems. Uh. If if this, 475 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: if this stuff, if this evidence here, ASATCHI I gotta 476 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: let you run because I'm flat out of time. So 477 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: let me let you run and I'll talk. So thank you, 478 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: say thank you. Coming right back on Nightside after the breakup, 479 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: three calls, going to get them all in. I promise. 480 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ray and this is night Side. 481 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Why has Donald Trump done one hundred on the Epstein emails. 482 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: It's night Side with Boston's news radio. 483 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: All let me go to my friend John and Pennsylvania. 484 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: John is no fan of Donald Trump. John, I'm interested 485 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: into what you think is his reason for doing a 486 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: one eighty on the Epstein emails. 487 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 8: Oh right, Well, I think the real and it was 488 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 8: clear once he wasn't able to get Nouran, Bobot or 489 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 8: Nancy Mayce to change their vote on the issue, then 490 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 8: he simply got ahead of a political defeat, because otherwise 491 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 8: the House Republicans would have been seen as voting in 492 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 8: favor in defiance of him. Now that being said, he 493 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 8: made a rather shrewd move by ordering Pam Bondi to 494 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 8: launch investigations into certain prominent Democrats, including Bill Clinton and 495 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 8: Democratic Party donors, because that way she could say that 496 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 8: there's a no on going investigation which will limit certain 497 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 8: files from being released, and then that would go all 498 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 8: the way to the Supreme Court. Now, I'm going to 499 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 8: say one thing that may or may not surprise you. 500 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 8: I don't think Donald Trump was one of the wealthy 501 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 8: and powerful men that partook of the underage girls that 502 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 8: Epstein was pimping out. I do think there's obviously material 503 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 8: that would be embarrassing to him. Regarding his relationship with Epstein. 504 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 8: I think more in the sense that, like a lot 505 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 8: of very powerful influential people that had so called friendships 506 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 8: or business relationships with Epstein, they had to be on 507 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 8: certain a certain level turning a blind eye to what 508 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 8: they should have known was vile conduct on his part. 509 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw there was a recent 510 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 8: article that appeared in The Times about the relationship of 511 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 8: City Bank and JP Morgan and their their financial partnerships 512 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 8: with with with Epstein, and how they made exception after 513 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 8: exception after exception, even when he was opening accounts in 514 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 8: the names of what they should have recognized were underad girls. 515 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 8: I mean, it need not have been criminal, but it was. 516 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 8: It was unethical, it was he was just almost the 517 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 8: level of gross it's from the wrong term, but gross negligent. 518 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me let me say this, John, there's nothing 519 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: that you have said tonight that I disagree with, by 520 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: the way, and I think that, uh, you know, if 521 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: if if, for example, the the so called birthday card 522 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: that Trump sent to Epstein, which was the the silhouette 523 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: of a of a woman, the very suggestive you know 524 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 1: birthday card. Now, you know have guys sent birthday cards, 525 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: but that was one that's hand drawn. 526 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 9: That's that's that's that's not we agree. 527 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 8: We agree he wrote and sent it, right, I don't 528 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 8: know agree, I don't. 529 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: Look, I don't know. Okay, I don't know. I'm as 530 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: a lawyer, I always want to I can't tell you 531 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: that I know he sent it, and I that's just 532 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: for me. It's a step too far. Do I think 533 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: he could have sent it? Yeah? Do I think that 534 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: it looked like his signature? Yeah? But would I like 535 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: to see that to be evaluated by a more serious 536 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: person who could who could determine the bona fides of 537 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: the document? 538 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 5: Yeah? 539 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, look, I got three others, John, I got 540 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: to go to let me leave it with you too. 541 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: Normally get more more time. But I think he made 542 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: good points, and I'm in agreement with you tonight as Frankly. 543 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 8: Uh yeah, if you if you look at Epstein's history, 544 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 8: this look, he got opportunity after opportunity after opportunity. The 545 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 8: man was highly intelligent. He dropped out of college after 546 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 8: one year, and yet he kept getting opportunities with high 547 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 8: level people and high Yeah. 548 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: No, no, this got this guy was this guy was 549 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: was providing something. There's no question, no question. I gotta run. 550 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: I got to run. But call back and we'll have 551 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: a further conversation on Thank you very quickly. I'm going 552 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: to try my best here. We got Mike and Quincy. 553 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: Mike next on Nightside. 554 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Hey, Dan, I just got a quick statement 555 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: in question. 556 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 10: My steament is. 557 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 3: Like I so, I'll tell my question is what you know? 558 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 3: What Harvey said is that. 559 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 10: If you are friends with Epstein, you know that's something 560 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 10: that you shouldn't be afraid ashamed of. Isn't being friends. 561 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: With Epstein something you should be afraid of? It should 562 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 3: be ashamed of? 563 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: Well, I think that at this point, I think again 564 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: it's what did what did you know? And it obviously 565 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: back what did you know? And when did you know it? 566 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you thought that this was a guy 567 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: who was gallivanting around town, uh, and was somebody who 568 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: was picking up people's dinners and uh and he was 569 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: he was, you know, well connected all of that. The 570 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: first that you realize that this guy was someone's I 571 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: think it was John's words here, pimping out underage girls. 572 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: I think at that point it's like Kryptonite time. It's like, 573 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: get me away from this guy. 574 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I think, excuse me, I agree with you. 575 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 10: If Trump is implicated at all in this, he's like 576 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 10: the biggest idiot to ever step foot into the White House. 577 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: Like, so allow this to happen, like to release all 578 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: that stuff, like and if you're incriminated. 579 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly, that's exactly. Yeah, absolutely a great point, Patrick, 580 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: rather than Mike. I got a screwed here. Let me 581 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: grab two more real quickly. Okay, thank you, all right, 582 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: thank you, good I thank you. Tim. I gotta split 583 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: a minute, you and Patrick, go ahead, go ahead. Tim. 584 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 5: I don't know anything about that Trump and the Epstein thing, 585 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 5: but I called to wish you a wonderful thanksgiving you 586 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 5: in yours. 587 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: Well we will talk between now and next Thursday. But 588 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: if we don't, happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Thanks Tim, 589 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 590 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 5: Thank you. 591 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: Patrick. I got about thirty for you, buddy. You called Lake, go. 592 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 5: Ahead, got it? 593 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 6: Got it? 594 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 9: So Dan. A lot of emails have been leaked out 595 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 9: in the last week. We're gotten Epstein and numerous several 596 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 9: of them indicate emails from him, to Maxwell and to 597 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 9: others that Trump could not be broken. In other words, 598 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 9: you could read between the lines of Trump was not 599 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 9: one of the people who was caught up in this 600 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 9: copabat operation, so that those are out there separately, you know. 601 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 9: In terms of why do you think he broke I 602 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 9: think finally he's just like, I can't defend this anymore 603 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 9: and I'm gonna let it go. You know, I have 604 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 9: to wonder was he being pressured by the Israeli lobby 605 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 9: to keep this suppressed as long as he could and 606 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 9: he finally broke on it. What do you think of that? 607 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: Dan? I think the Israeli lobby is is way too far. 608 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: That's that that's that's a reach that is way beyond 609 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: anything that I would even think of. But I got 610 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: to run for now, Patrick and later this week. Thanks 611 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: all right, good night, where everybody, Rob Brooks, great job, 612 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: busy night. Thanks all the callers, my guest, Reverend Kevin Peterson, 613 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: all my callers tonight, and Marita done for the night. 614 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I'll end us always. All dogs, all cats, all pets 615 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: go to heaven. That's my pal Charlie Rays, who passed 616 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago in February that's where all your pets 617 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: are who have passed. They love you and you love them. 618 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: I do believe you'll see them again. We'll see again 619 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow night at nightside. Have a great Tuesday. Everybody, stay warm, 620 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: it's chilly out there. It's chilly. I'll see on Facebook 621 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: in about two minutes.