1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,679
Speaker 1: Standpoint love Haven't I heart media aviation expert Jay Ratlift

2
00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,680
Speaker 1: on at this time every every week we got some

3
00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,600
Speaker 1: great things to talk about. Welcome back, Jay Ratlift, my friend,

4
00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,440
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to have you on the program.

5
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,360
Speaker 2: Pleasant, good morning to you. It's always always fun to

6
00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:13,720
Speaker 2: be here.

7
00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,639
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna start with the late edition. Add on.

8
00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,560
Speaker 1: There is it pronounced joby, Yes, Joby Aviation, Joby Aviation,

9
00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,360
Speaker 1: which which is kind of a weird name. I'm considering

10
00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,599
Speaker 1: what happened to job as in the book of job

11
00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,280
Speaker 1: Not quite sure.

12
00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:28,159
Speaker 3: It's a great thing to do.

13
00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,360
Speaker 1: Considering also the mechanism of air travel we're talking about here,

14
00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519
Speaker 1: which is an all electric air taxi that you can

15
00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,120
Speaker 1: you can summon via uber. This is an amazing development

16
00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,360
Speaker 1: and I you certainly conceptualize that this might happen. But

17
00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,640
Speaker 1: are you, let me say, start out, are you inclined

18
00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,680
Speaker 1: to even get into a joby all electric air taxi

19
00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:48,240
Speaker 1: for a spin?

20
00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,880
Speaker 4: Jay, Well, it's gonna be.

21
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna be, it's gonna be a short trip. It's

22
00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,040
Speaker 2: gonna have a certified pilot at the controls. So yeah,

23
00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,880
Speaker 2: if that individual is willing to be in there, I

24
00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,600
Speaker 2: guess I could too. And yeah, they rolled it out

25
00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:06,200
Speaker 2: at the The Buyer Show. They had Joby Aviation. It's

26
00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,960
Speaker 2: now you can get uber air. It's gonna be on

27
00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,959
Speaker 2: your device, you can actually have that. They're talking about

28
00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,480
Speaker 2: carrying the first passengers later this year and it's gonna

29
00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 2: be uh in the I believe it'll be in the

30
00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,440
Speaker 2: United Emirates. It's going to take place. And this is

31
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,759
Speaker 2: something that we've seen coming for some time. And again

32
00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,880
Speaker 2: the idea of electric aviation has all kinds of issues

33
00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,160
Speaker 2: slash concerns to me. But the thing is it's for

34
00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,839
Speaker 2: short hops. They're they're talking about this. This is something

35
00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,800
Speaker 2: that's going to allow people to be shuttled back and

36
00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,040
Speaker 2: forth to the airports into other places, and it's going

37
00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,760
Speaker 2: to you know, alleviate the the just the maddening commute

38
00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 2: that so many people have in certain regards. And yeah,

39
00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be expensive, I'm sure to begin with. And

40
00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of things that are gonna

41
00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,280
Speaker 2: have to come in to play to make this feasible.

42
00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,280
Speaker 2: But Brian, imagine going out to your driveway a little

43
00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 2: air uber lands.

44
00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,320
Speaker 4: You jump in it.

45
00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,360
Speaker 2: You just you know, you just look at the traffic

46
00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,600
Speaker 2: that that Chuck and all of them are talking about

47
00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,240
Speaker 2: down there on the.

48
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,880
Speaker 4: Interstate and you land and go to work.

49
00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's something that would be really really

50
00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,320
Speaker 2: nice to see and look. Ever since the Jetsons and shit, I've.

51
00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,840
Speaker 4: Been waiting on this.

52
00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say that Jetsons. This sounds exact like

53
00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,280
Speaker 3: the Jetsons.

54
00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,960
Speaker 2: But how do I have to get before that becomes like,

55
00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,280
Speaker 2: you know, a reality.

56
00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's the thing burning in the back of

57
00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,399
Speaker 1: my mind on one of these. You know, I think

58
00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,920
Speaker 1: initially of, well, the battery is going to run out

59
00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,480
Speaker 1: of juice, and what do you do if that happens?

60
00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,359
Speaker 1: But I presume they have some sort of safety measures

61
00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,639
Speaker 1: where the thing will land before the battery conks out

62
00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. But have they solved that pesky problem of

63
00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,320
Speaker 1: batteries just suddenly combusting. Jay would be a real problem

64
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,280
Speaker 1: with five thousand feet I don't know that.

65
00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,359
Speaker 2: These are lithium battery power. That would be a big

66
00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440
Speaker 2: issue for me. Yeah, But you know, the thought is

67
00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680
Speaker 2: that for two hundred miles I'm sorry, two hundred miles

68
00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,360
Speaker 2: an hour, and I think these things can go up

69
00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,640
Speaker 2: about a hard miles on a single charge. You know,

70
00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna have lots of leadway there. And obviously we

71
00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400
Speaker 2: want redundant or backup systems as well. And this is

72
00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,040
Speaker 2: something that they're talking about. You know, once it's established,

73
00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,840
Speaker 2: we're going to see it here.

74
00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,519
Speaker 4: In the United States.

75
00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720
Speaker 2: I don't know where, and I don't know when, and

76
00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what the cost will be. I just

77
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,560
Speaker 2: think it's going to be super cool on my Uber app,

78
00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,079
Speaker 2: whether I use it or not. There to Sherry and

79
00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,400
Speaker 2: I were in Las Vegas and we were getting an

80
00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Uber and there was a little box you could check

81
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,120
Speaker 2: if you wanted a driverless car. And I thought cool,

82
00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720
Speaker 2: and Cherry said, don't check that box. I'm not getting

83
00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,200
Speaker 2: in that car.

84
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, just up and down the strip.

85
00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,240
Speaker 2: I just for one no, So you know, I deferred

86
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,080
Speaker 2: to my beautiful wife.

87
00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680
Speaker 4: That's mine. Had it been me by myself.

88
00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,040
Speaker 2: I had to checked that box and I wouldn't have

89
00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,640
Speaker 2: stopped until some car pulled up they didn't have a driver.

90
00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,680
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I'm with your wife on that one too. Okay,

91
00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,280
Speaker 1: So we'll let the Saudi's work the kinks in the

92
00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,320
Speaker 1: armor out of this particular Uber app. Enough in the

93
00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,200
Speaker 1: flying taxis. But question if this does come to the

94
00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,480
Speaker 1: United States, and I've seen recently that you can already

95
00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,840
Speaker 1: put an order in for your own forty thousand dollars

96
00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,560
Speaker 1: personal aircraft that does not require an aviation license. This

97
00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of thing. The FAA is going to be all

98
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,960
Speaker 1: over this in terms of regulating it, won't it.

99
00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,839
Speaker 2: They're going to need to be. But I remember when

100
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,160
Speaker 2: the drones descended upon us, and the FAA was kind

101
00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,359
Speaker 2: of behind as far as getting the registration and the

102
00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,320
Speaker 2: rules and everything up and running for those.

103
00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,080
Speaker 4: And you know, the.

104
00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,160
Speaker 2: Idea of a totally automated air taxi or an air

105
00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,520
Speaker 2: your taxi with a pilot in it. I am totally

106
00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,120
Speaker 2: okay with your forty thousand dollars, you know, experimental vehicle

107
00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't require a pilot's license that anybody could jump

108
00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,320
Speaker 2: in and go in. That to me is is just

109
00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,920
Speaker 2: horrific in a lot of different areas. And I think

110
00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 2: it also, you know, adds a certain security issue with

111
00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680
Speaker 2: it as well. You know, some guy starts drinking and says, hey,

112
00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,719
Speaker 2: let's go over and check out the Bengals game. We

113
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,720
Speaker 2: don't need to see will just fly. You just don't

114
00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,520
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen stuff like that.

115
00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,320
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, But I was looking at

116
00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,039
Speaker 1: the Jobe air They're really kind of the same thing

117
00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,479
Speaker 1: as those personal aircraft that we're talking about. They don't

118
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,120
Speaker 1: really differ that much in design or anything. If I

119
00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,600
Speaker 1: caught up.

120
00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,240
Speaker 2: Jibie programmed push a button and go, that's fine if

121
00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,640
Speaker 2: somebody's gotta fly it, I mean road Look, you know

122
00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,840
Speaker 2: all about road rage, my friend, big time.

123
00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:17,599
Speaker 4: You know about it?

124
00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:17,880
Speaker 3: I do.

125
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,240
Speaker 4: Can you imagine somebody with air rage? I just that's

126
00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,640
Speaker 4: something I just don't want to imagine.

127
00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, And you know, and then the ripple effect.

128
00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,080
Speaker 1: You're flying around your personal aircraft and people start shooting

129
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760
Speaker 1: their laser pointers at you, and man, the list of

130
00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,760
Speaker 1: problems is seemingly endless. Let's possible break Jay ratlive back,

131
00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,000
Speaker 1: uh sleeping on an airplane? Hmmm more with the Jay

132
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,120
Speaker 1: ratlif right for these brief words. Fifty five KRC dot

133
00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,680
Speaker 1: com this month here see deep talk station. Have you

134
00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,160
Speaker 1: ever been in the cockpit before? Hey, forty fifty five

135
00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,120
Speaker 1: KRCD talk station ever had to sleep in an airplane overnight?

136
00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:51,400
Speaker 4: Before?

137
00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,839
Speaker 1: Jay Ratlin I heard media aviation expert on the phone.

138
00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna pivot over to the loft tons of flight

139
00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640
Speaker 1: where people were forced to do just that. What happened here, Jay.

140
00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,039
Speaker 2: This this was a excuse me. A flight that was

141
00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,120
Speaker 2: in Munich. They were preparing to depart. Flight was delayed

142
00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,600
Speaker 2: and the aircraft is off the tarmac because there was

143
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,960
Speaker 2: no gatespace. So once the flight finally was in a

144
00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080
Speaker 2: position to depart late in the evening, they put everybody

145
00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,520
Speaker 2: on a bus, bust them out to the aircraft, loaded

146
00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,480
Speaker 2: everybody up, planes preparing to take off. Further issues, whether

147
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,560
Speaker 2: related than others, kind of creeped in, and the next

148
00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,599
Speaker 2: thing you know, it's eleven thirty, twelve thirty in the

149
00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,320
Speaker 2: morning now and they've decided to cancel the flight. The

150
00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,400
Speaker 2: problem was all the bus drivers at the airport that

151
00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,400
Speaker 2: shoudled everybody out there had already gone home for the day.

152
00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:39,159
Speaker 3: Huh.

153
00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,760
Speaker 2: So now you've got all these passengers on a remote

154
00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,640
Speaker 2: aircraft that's going nowhere that need to get back to

155
00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,400
Speaker 2: the airport that they can see out the window.

156
00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,039
Speaker 4: But they're told, we don't have.

157
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,000
Speaker 2: The bus drivers, so we've got to stay on board

158
00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,400
Speaker 2: the aircraft overnight until they show up the next morning. Now,

159
00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,880
Speaker 2: this is not a remote airport. This is Munich, large

160
00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,960
Speaker 2: international airport. You would think Lufons has a little pull

161
00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,640
Speaker 2: they could have done something. I don't know, but the

162
00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,040
Speaker 2: idea that everybody thought that airplane's about to take off

163
00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,720
Speaker 2: and leave, so it was really of no concern operationally.

164
00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,960
Speaker 2: But then when the flight canceled, it was kind of

165
00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,880
Speaker 2: the uh oh, now what do we do kind of

166
00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,080
Speaker 2: moment and they had to spend the night. This is

167
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,080
Speaker 2: an aircraft that had limited beverages, limited snacks, obviously, no blankets,

168
00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,240
Speaker 2: not exactly what you call super comfortable. The lavatories I'm

169
00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,000
Speaker 2: sure were taxed. So I mean, you've got all kinds

170
00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,760
Speaker 2: of issues on this thing, as these people are being

171
00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,760
Speaker 2: forced to spend the night on an aircraft that never

172
00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,920
Speaker 2: went anywhere. It was not until the next morning when

173
00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,560
Speaker 2: the bus driver showed up that they shuttle people out

174
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,920
Speaker 2: in the way they go. And I know if it

175
00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,680
Speaker 2: was here in the United States, I mean, I'm sure

176
00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,480
Speaker 2: the airline would have cared enough to give us about

177
00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000
Speaker 2: an one hundred dollars boucher or something. But I don't

178
00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,800
Speaker 2: know what they did over there. But can you imagine,

179
00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,360
Speaker 2: and people say, can't we just be they can bring

180
00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,320
Speaker 2: airsteps out where we can just walk down and walk

181
00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,560
Speaker 2: over to the air price. But the problem is from

182
00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,120
Speaker 2: a security standpoint, you have to be escorted over by

183
00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 2: somebody that's been badged for that airport. You can't have

184
00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,400
Speaker 2: pilots because pilots are only given a security clearance within

185
00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,040
Speaker 2: the shadow of their aircraft to like when they do

186
00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,000
Speaker 2: the walkarounds and things. They're not badged for those All

187
00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 2: those airports their badge pretty much for their hub where

188
00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,320
Speaker 2: they're at where they can walk across the tarmac unimpeded.

189
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,400
Speaker 2: But you can't do that at every airport. So here

190
00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,560
Speaker 2: you have flight at tenants and pilots that can't escort

191
00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,760
Speaker 2: people over there. And yeah, so it was it was

192
00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,080
Speaker 2: maddening for the people on board that aircraft, was they

193
00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean, again, you're frustrated because the flight's canceled. Oh

194
00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,400
Speaker 2: you think that's something. Now we have to tell you

195
00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,920
Speaker 2: we can't get you back into the airport.

196
00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 3: That is Oh my god.

197
00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,319
Speaker 1: You have no idea how bad I would be if

198
00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,680
Speaker 1: I was stuck on a plane and looking out the window.

199
00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,560
Speaker 3: I want to go over there, it's right there.

200
00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,400
Speaker 2: Let me out exist And then you're waiting for somebody

201
00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,720
Speaker 2: to pop the door and go, and obviously the flight

202
00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,680
Speaker 2: crew did a good job of preventing that because you know,

203
00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,160
Speaker 2: you don't want to have a stampede or but yeah,

204
00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,760
Speaker 2: somebody pops that door, it's got the emergency slide attached.

205
00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,440
Speaker 4: Yeah there's your.

206
00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360
Speaker 2: Ramp and off you go, and you could add all

207
00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,080
Speaker 2: kinds of problems, but you know, fortunately they were able

208
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,720
Speaker 2: to contain it and the crew did a good job.

209
00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, you've got somebody drinking that just pushes their

210
00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,520
Speaker 2: way past the flight crew. They can open up that

211
00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,920
Speaker 2: door and push it, and that that emergency slide is

212
00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,400
Speaker 2: going to activate and down you could go if you

213
00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,040
Speaker 2: so chose.

214
00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 4: Oh my sugguessing obviously to ever do that. I'm just

215
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,559
Speaker 4: saying this could have happened then and did not. So again,

216
00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 4: I think the flight crew did a good job.

217
00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,800
Speaker 1: Before we come up, we were coming up to a break.

218
00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 1: Here just a minute, I want to ask you, I

219
00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,439
Speaker 1: mean half of Maureen who is listening from Florida. She's

220
00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,160
Speaker 1: always tuning into the morning show. Please ask Jay if

221
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,760
Speaker 1: the fires and alligator alley floora that's done by the

222
00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,640
Speaker 1: Everglades are causing flight issues. Are you even aware that

223
00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,720
Speaker 1: there's fires going down there.

224
00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 4: Jay, I was not, but.

225
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,040
Speaker 2: There have been times when you have some limited visibility.

226
00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,800
Speaker 2: It has to be close to an airport where we're

227
00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640
Speaker 2: going to have a flight advisory of some kind. Most

228
00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,760
Speaker 2: of the time we're not notified of that out it's

229
00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,280
Speaker 2: a volcano marine. Yes, I don't care where in the

230
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,640
Speaker 2: world it is. There is an alert that goes out

231
00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,400
Speaker 2: to pilots around the world. Even if that volcanic eruption

232
00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280
Speaker 2: occurred on it totally the other side of the planet.

233
00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,280
Speaker 2: Pilots are going to be made aware of it because

234
00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,360
Speaker 2: that volcanic ash can be problematic yet altitude being sucked

235
00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 2: into engines and you know, shutting them down.

236
00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like sand in the desert for military equipment, frightening

237
00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:25,520
Speaker 1: stuff exactly.

238
00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:25,679
Speaker 4: Yea.

239
00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,600
Speaker 1: One more with Jay Radliff. We're going to talk about well,

240
00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,320
Speaker 1: a young man spotting an error. He's only five years

241
00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,160
Speaker 1: old and it was on a Southwest Airlines training manual

242
00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,840
Speaker 1: of all things. More with Jay rock Station, Happy Thursday.

243
00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,640
Speaker 1: Jay Radless on the phone. Hey, just a real quick

244
00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,320
Speaker 1: observation before you brought this Jabbi Aircraft company up in

245
00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,560
Speaker 1: these you know uber taxis I saw and it's a

246
00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,680
Speaker 1: really great thing for the state of Ohio, notably the

247
00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,120
Speaker 1: city of Dayton. They are they signed an agreement to

248
00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,840
Speaker 1: acquire a manufacturing facility in Dayton, Ohio area seven hundred

249
00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,600
Speaker 1: thousand square feet and they're going to be doubling their

250
00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,720
Speaker 1: aircraft production, which is a pretty impressive thing with the

251
00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800
Speaker 1: cast that the company has on hand. So this is

252
00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,000
Speaker 1: clearly the way of the future, if this Jobe Company

253
00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,120
Speaker 1: is any indication it is.

254
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,680
Speaker 2: And when you look at all the money that airlines

255
00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,559
Speaker 2: like United American Delta have been pouring into the research

256
00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,960
Speaker 2: and development on this side. Not only that, but you

257
00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,120
Speaker 2: know hypersonic supersonic aircraft designs, and well, a lot of

258
00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,560
Speaker 2: people are looking at this as kind.

259
00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,280
Speaker 4: Of a wave of the future.

260
00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640
Speaker 2: Now we'll have to wait and see, because it's great

261
00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,959
Speaker 2: to have electric powered anything. But as you have been

262
00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,600
Speaker 2: so good to comment on over the years, it comes

263
00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,720
Speaker 2: down to the production costs and what's the what's the

264
00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,880
Speaker 2: fallout for producing some of these things that are supposed

265
00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,920
Speaker 2: to be better for either the planet or whatever. But

266
00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,320
Speaker 2: if they can't be produced at a price that makes

267
00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,760
Speaker 2: it competitive, airlines are not going to touch it. So

268
00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,079
Speaker 2: that's really the challenge. It's a lot like those sustainable

269
00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,200
Speaker 2: aviation fuels. It's great to have fuel that has vegetable

270
00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,640
Speaker 2: oil excuse me, and other things that can be you know,

271
00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,000
Speaker 2: created absence of fuel as far as oil. But the

272
00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,560
Speaker 2: problem is can you make that available at such a

273
00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,640
Speaker 2: cost that the being counters at the airlines are gonna

274
00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 2: be excited enough to go after it?

275
00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,800
Speaker 3: Fair enough?

276
00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,920
Speaker 1: All right, we got a young man we'll getting some

277
00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,880
Speaker 1: praise for spotting an error in a pilot training manual.

278
00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,360
Speaker 2: This is such a good story. This is a student

279
00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,439
Speaker 2: at the Campbell Early Learning Center Jefferson County, Colorado. This William,

280
00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:38,000
Speaker 2: this young man is a huge aviation geek, even at

281
00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,640
Speaker 2: five years of age. So he was given a tour

282
00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,240
Speaker 2: that included going through some of the Southwest Airlines types

283
00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,800
Speaker 2: of things like.

284
00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,640
Speaker 4: The company training manual for pilots.

285
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,920
Speaker 2: It's a comprehensive instructional guide for pilots. So this five

286
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,559
Speaker 2: year old is going through this and notices that there

287
00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,640
Speaker 2: was a discrepancy in the section on the aircraft's terrain displays. Now,

288
00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,120
Speaker 2: this five year old kid, Now, I think of the

289
00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,760
Speaker 2: number of pilots that had been trained that have had

290
00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,520
Speaker 2: this as their textbook, that have not caught this mistake.

291
00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,680
Speaker 2: You have a five year old that looks at it

292
00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,800
Speaker 2: and says, shouldn't these two pictures be of the same thing?

293
00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,760
Speaker 2: It was a train display and they were not the same.

294
00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,440
Speaker 2: The Southwest Airlines pilot who's with the five year old

295
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,120
Speaker 2: looks at that and says, you know what, you're right.

296
00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,840
Speaker 2: So now Southwest Airlines is going to have to revise

297
00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,160
Speaker 2: their pilot training manual because of a five year old

298
00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,680
Speaker 2: that caught a mistake.

299
00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920
Speaker 4: What does that say about all the pilots that have

300
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,040
Speaker 4: been trained and use this manual? Catch it?

301
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's just two good I mean, you know,

302
00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,480
Speaker 2: people accuse you and I making things up, and this

303
00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,559
Speaker 2: would be a really good one if this was being made.

304
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,760
Speaker 2: This is you know, what was a Jeff Foxworthy talks

305
00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,600
Speaker 2: about are you smarter than what a fifth grader? This

306
00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,520
Speaker 2: is not a fifth grader.

307
00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,000
Speaker 4: This is a five year role who's in preschool.

308
00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well, in something else that neither Jane or

309
00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,920
Speaker 1: I made up. I didn't realize we were ever accused

310
00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,840
Speaker 1: of making stuff up. Jay, that's news to me, all

311
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,320
Speaker 1: im boy. Way, Mariene's actually listening from Hawaii Hello and

312
00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,439
Speaker 1: Hawaii Marine anyway, I understand in American airlines, a flight

313
00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,200
Speaker 1: was in a war zone or something, found a bullet

314
00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,480
Speaker 1: hole in the wing. Were they flying over Venezuela or something.

315
00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,280
Speaker 2: They had left Columbia, they arrived in Miami, yep, it's

316
00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 2: just an international flight that's you know, operating as normal.

317
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,600
Speaker 2: They land and they taxi in in part. There's no

318
00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,600
Speaker 2: issues until one of the the ground personnel noticed as

319
00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,280
Speaker 2: a hole in the wing. They look up and sure enough,

320
00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,080
Speaker 2: they initially called it a puncture wound. I don't know

321
00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,880
Speaker 2: what would have bit them to get my puncture wound,

322
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640
Speaker 2: but it turned out to be a bullet hole in

323
00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,520
Speaker 2: the wing of the aircraft. So it was in one

324
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,280
Speaker 2: of the alions.

325
00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,120
Speaker 4: So the.

326
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,720
Speaker 2: Pilots did not notice anything that was operationally amiss during

327
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,480
Speaker 2: the course.

328
00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:00,760
Speaker 4: Of the flight.

329
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,200
Speaker 2: The aircraft obviously taken out of service, but now that

330
00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,120
Speaker 2: area is on alert to make sure that there's not

331
00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,920
Speaker 2: anything that's either ongoing from an unrest standpoint, or anybody

332
00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,360
Speaker 2: targeting commercial aircraft that would have been you know, caused

333
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,440
Speaker 2: for airlines to to throttle back and suspend some service.

334
00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,720
Speaker 4: We've seen this in Haiti.

335
00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,840
Speaker 2: Pilots and airlines were warned in Haiti that there was

336
00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,160
Speaker 2: a lot of activity that was ongoing that was military

337
00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,960
Speaker 2: in sort, and to be careful, and we had.

338
00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 4: A south what excuse me, it was a.

339
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,000
Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines and a Jet Blue flight that were targeted

340
00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,640
Speaker 2: and shot at. Fact, there were bullet holes in the

341
00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,160
Speaker 2: overhead storage compartment of the Spirit Airlines flight and you

342
00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,240
Speaker 2: can google those images. They're chilling, and Airlines obviously suspended

343
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,440
Speaker 2: operations there until you know, the unrest kind of kind

344
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 2: of subsided. But yeah, I mean the idea of having

345
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,760
Speaker 2: a bullet hole in your aircraft when it arrives, Yeah.

346
00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,080
Speaker 4: That'll wake you.

347
00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,480
Speaker 1: Well, if it hit the fuselage could have depressurized the

348
00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,240
Speaker 1: cabin right.

349
00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,120
Speaker 4: Well, if it went through the wing, it's not.

350
00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,920
Speaker 3: So much the fuel is the fuels in the wing.

351
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,560
Speaker 2: Is It's that, That's what you have torisbot is that.

352
00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,680
Speaker 2: But keep in mind the fuel is let's say, in

353
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,960
Speaker 2: the center part of the wing and the alien run

354
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,960
Speaker 2: in the back is is what was impacted. So and

355
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,320
Speaker 2: all that does is control the flight activity. So yeah,

356
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean anything with the.

357
00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,800
Speaker 4: Wing you don't want to mess with.

358
00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,400
Speaker 2: But again, the fact that nobody knew what happened until

359
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,280
Speaker 2: somebody noticed the whole certainly showed just just thank God

360
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,200
Speaker 2: that nothing happened.

361
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, that.

362
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,800
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff that raises concerns and they'll be looking

363
00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,280
Speaker 2: at it because airlies, you're not going to put the passengers, pilots,

364
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240
Speaker 2: flight to tenants and passengers or their aircraft and harms

365
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,840
Speaker 2: way of any kind, and they will quickly err on

366
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 2: the side of caution if it looks like this is

367
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,200
Speaker 2: going to be something that.

368
00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,880
Speaker 4: Could be repeated.

369
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,760
Speaker 1: So thankful for that, Jay rattlif we always end on Hubblaze.

370
00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,480
Speaker 1: How's it looking out there for air traveled today?

371
00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,960
Speaker 2: I got some issues south of US. In fact, you know,

372
00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,240
Speaker 2: we're batting a little bit of weather here, but Brian,

373
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,640
Speaker 2: south of US, Atlanta, Charlotte looking at some significant delays.

374
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 2: In fact, you can even go back to yea towards

375
00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,520
Speaker 2: Atlanta and Charlotte. As it's moving up towards the northeast.

376
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,159
Speaker 2: Later today, the hubs of Atlanta and Charlotte are going

377
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,880
Speaker 2: to get a little bit better. But then we've got Philadelphia,

378
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000
Speaker 2: New York that's going to start seeing some significant weather

379
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,680
Speaker 2: related delays. So if you head it through Chicago, it

380
00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 2: looks good. You're going through Dallas or headed out west,

381
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 2: you should be in good shape, but certainly headed south

382
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,359
Speaker 2: or later in the day towards the northeast, you will

383
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,840
Speaker 2: encounter some weather related delays that could actually exceed an

384
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639
Speaker 1: Hour, all right, kay, Rather, I appreciate the inde, the inside,

385
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,560
Speaker 1: the information and