1 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Our two Twin Cities News Talk Am eleven thirty one 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: oh three five FM from the sixty five to one carpet, 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Next Day, install studios, flight disruptions. I'm looking at the 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Fox News ticker right now. Continue shutdowns not over yet. 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: The House should vote this evening. Republicans, as you were 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: hearing at the top of the hour, News, can stand 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: to lose two votes in the House to get the 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: government open again. On the show, we've been talking about 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: a number of different proposals that Trump has put forward 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: that's causing a lot of Trump supporters to freak out 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: a bit. Earlier this week, we had the two thousand 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: dollars tariff dividend checks fifty your mortgages. We'll get to 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: more of your comments on that here in just a moment. 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: The H one B visa issue, especially relating to comments 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: that President Donald Trump had last night with Laura Ingram 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: in a back and forth exchange, and it was an 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: interesting flip flop of what you typically hear. Trump was 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: adding specificity to Laura Ingram more generalizing on the issue 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: of H one B visas, taking a thirty thousand foot 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: view on all of these issues. The tariff dividend checks 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: ends up pushing back on the narratives of Democrats relating 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: to Trump being cruel over snap benefits for those that 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: go and buy into it. Fifty year mortgages pushes back 24 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: on the democrats continued push for affordable housing dealing with 25 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: the housing crisis that we have in the country right 26 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: now and the H one B visa, and Trump being 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: positive about bringing in skill to immigrant labor certainly pushes 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: back on the continued narratives by Democrats to paint Trap 29 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: as a xenophobic racist. We can work out the details 30 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: on these later on, and there's pros and cons either way. 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm just surprised to see the number of. 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Individuals that are playing the role of PanicIn in all 33 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: of this. 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what Trump does, and. 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: It's a good opportunity for Republicans to go and when 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to push back on those individuals 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: online in places now that have become the town square 38 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: like x win, those on the left whant to irrationally 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: go and make all those arguments that I just laid 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: out herein you have ammunition to push back going. Yeah, 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: but he's doing ABC and D, which would run completely 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: contrary to your criticism of the president. Let's get back 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: to more of your thoughts on the iHeartRadio app Talkbacks 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: brought to you by Lyndahl Realty. 45 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm very familiar with real estate. A fifty year mortgage 46 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: would be phenomenal because it will at least get people 47 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: into the entry to buy a home right now with rent, 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: you can't rent a piece of junk for under fifty hundred, 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: and it would help people get into a home. They 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: can always pay extra on their mortgage with all the penalty, 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: so it's a great idea. 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: Morean John. Hey, everybody that's commentay on this sounds like 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: an angry homeowner. I think I'm just going to stick 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: to rentin for a while. 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Have a good. 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: One giving people the option to get into a home 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: and then maybe refinanced later down the road. 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: Is that such a bad idea? 59 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Good morning, John, This is Zach again. I'm an IT 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: and what companies want is they want cheap labor, just 61 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: like any other company. And it's not that we have 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: a lack of skilled IT workers in this country. Companies 63 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: don't want to pay what those skilled workers cost, and 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: each one workers have always driven salaries down in IT 65 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: so that's where I really disagree with him on that. 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, and as I mentioned before, that's fine, but nothing's 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: really changed. 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean Trump was just simply sharing his view. 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: He's already increased the fee to one hundred thousand dollars 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: for those companies that want to bring in skilled immigrant labor. 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean all of this is steming from the back and 72 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: forth that he had with Laura Ingram on Fox News 73 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: last night. 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 6: Republicans have to talk about it, lat. 75 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: And does that mean the H one B visa thing 76 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: will not be a big. 77 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Priority for your administration? 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 7: Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 7: you can't flood the country with tens of thousands, hundreds 80 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 7: of hours. 81 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 6: And we also do have to bring in talent when 82 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 6: we got. 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: Many of talent and you know, you don't know, you 84 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: don't we don't have. 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 6: Talent in no, you don't have you don't have certain talents, 86 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 6: and you have to people have to learn. You can't 87 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 6: take people off an unimploiment like an unemployment line and 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 6: say I'm going to put you into a factory who 89 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 6: we're going to make missiles or I'm going to put. 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: How do we ever do it? Before well, you and I. 91 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 6: In Georgia, they rated because they wanted illegal immigrants. They 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 6: had people from South Korea that need batteries all their lives. 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: You know, making batteries are very complicated. It's not an 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: easy thing and very dangerous, a lot of explosions, a 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: lot of problems. They had like five or six hundred 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 6: people early stages to make batteries and to teach people how. 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: To do it. Well, they wanted them. 99 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: To get out of the country. 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: You're going to need that, Laura. 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 6: I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 6: You can't just say a country's coming in, going to 103 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 6: invest ten billion dollars to build a plant and going 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 6: to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 6: in five years, and they're going to start making their missiles. 106 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 6: It doesn't work that well. 107 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Let me come at this clip from Fox News from 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: another angle relating to my thirty thousand foot view of 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: all of these different issues. Another takeaway here, and I 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: made this point earlier, but I really want to drive 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: it home. Is Trump defending the value of skilled immigrant labor. 112 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: It's a really good example of how ridiculous it is 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: of Democrats and leftists who continue to go and criticize 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: Trump as being this xenophobic, racist, authoritarian dictator. We'll get 115 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: into the latest regarding the Snap benefits here in just 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: a moment. One of the points that I was going 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: to make in talking about this is the fact that 118 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: the administration went along with two rulings on October thirty 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: first by judges who said the government must provide at 120 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: least partial funding for SNAP. They pushed back on that 121 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: because we didn't have a roadmap to deal with SNAP 122 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: benefit the benefits being cut off via a shutdown as 123 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: long as we had to endure because of Democrats. The 124 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Trump administration didn't ignore the court rulings. They moved forward 125 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: and did temporarily until the Supreme Court went and pulled 126 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: it back. Did what was required of those judges. That 127 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: certainly runs counter to the continued leftist narrative of Trump 128 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: again being an authoritarian tyrant, as do all of these 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: various proposals that Trump has put forward. 130 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: And there was another one that I missed. 131 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I got to thank the talkback for reminding me it's 132 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: an issue that Trump has brought up that we haven't 133 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: even had a chance to cover on the show. 134 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: President Trump floated out another idea. I think four hundred 135 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: billion dollars in sub states were supposed to go to 136 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: the health insurance companies. Democrats stop that because Democrats receive 137 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: a lot of campaign donations from health insurance companies. President 138 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: Trump said, why don't we give that to the American 139 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: people in the form of health insurance plants that they 140 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: can choose. I don't know why that idea isn't out 141 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: there anymore. 142 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: And again it's Trump. 143 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: It's Trump doing what Trump does, and that is looking 144 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: at things from a business perspective. Democrats even use that 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: against him when they do the Trump always caves on 146 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: or always chickens out the taco Trump always chickens out. No, 147 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: it's Trump putting forward ideas, listening to people around him, 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: and then adjusting accordingly. I've been holding onto this particular 149 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: clip for a while. Now it seems appropriate to play 150 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: it here. We'll get back to more of your comments 151 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: from the iHeartRadio app here in just a moment. I 152 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: want to mention too, that we will be talking about 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: a little bit about the latest regarding snap including here 154 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, just how much grocery stores, especially your rural 155 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: areas are dependent on individuals being on snap. 156 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of disturbing. 157 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: We'll also have lawyer extraordinair Jeff O'Brien joining us in 158 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: the studio at seven point thirty to get into the 159 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: federal shutdown deal that could kill Minnesota's derived A THHC market. 160 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: But let me share this with you. This is actually 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: from a few weeks ago. 162 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I believe Donald Trump of the Oval Office, if I'm 163 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: not mistaken, he might have been holding a press conference, 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: but he shared his views on meritocracy, and I just 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: really appreciated what the President had to say in this moment. 166 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: And again, I think it's appropriate with the conversation that 167 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: we're having right now with all of these different proposals 168 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: that Trump has been putting forward. They may not all 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: be the best ideas, but most of the time they're 170 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: just starting points, and ultimately Trump is negotiating and suggesting 171 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: these particular measures and initiatives from a very genuine place. 172 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: Five six, seven months and many people were shot. And 173 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 6: then the governor gets up and he says, well, we 174 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: can handle it. They can't handle it. They don't know 175 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 6: what they're doing. The mayor is grossly incompetent. He's at 176 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 6: a four percent approval rating. In Chicago, he's at a 177 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 6: four percent lowest approval rating, lower than even Deblasio had, 178 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 6: which is hard to believe. 179 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: In New York. 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 6: I thought Deblasio would always maintain that record. But the 181 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 6: Chicago guy is even lower. So I think that we 182 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 6: want safe cities. If you look at d C, you 183 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 6: would right now, Mark, you could go out, take your 184 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 6: family out to dinner. You could walk right down the 185 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 6: middle of the city. There is no crime in DC. 186 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 6: When I got here, this place was a raging hell 187 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 6: hole where people would come from Canada. People would come 188 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 6: from other places and end up getting shot. Nobody's being shot. 189 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 6: The National guardsmen unbelievable. I mean, they are the strong, 190 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 6: tough guys. 191 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: You know. 192 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 6: We want something at the Supreme Court, which is a 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 6: big deal. Merit Everything now in this country is merit base. 194 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 6: I didn't think i'd ever see it again. And we 195 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 6: have our soldiers in merit base too, and they're central 196 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 6: casting and they walk through that town and I'll tell 197 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 6: you what, this place is safe. It's beautiful. Now we're 198 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 6: in Memphis and the same thing's happening. You're getting the 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: reports the bad guys is say, we don't want anything 200 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 6: to do with this, and we're removing many people in DC. 201 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 6: We took out seventeen one thousand, seven hundred career criminals 202 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 6: and sent them back to the countries from which they came, 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 6: mostly let out by Biden and his people that had 204 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: open border and open border policy. And you know, Canada, 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: you suffered because of that too, because they come here 206 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 6: and they'd go into Canada also, So we're like a 207 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 6: buffer for that in terms of they Canada suffered greatly 208 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 6: by Biden and the open border, the policy of open 209 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 6: border totally unchecked, totally unvetted, and these people were you know, 210 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 6: if you got five percent, two percent, now you were 211 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: getting a lot of bad people. And we now have 212 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 6: a closed the border. You've done well. We have a 213 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 6: closed border, and it's a really closed border. In fact, 214 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 6: for four months, I don't even know if this is possible, 215 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 6: but they this is the figures were released. Zero people 216 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: were able to come into the United States from the 217 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 6: southern border. 218 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to play that because of the comments that 219 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: he made regard uarding the merit and meritocracy and as 220 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: something that was lost during the Biden administration. We're slowly 221 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: getting back to that. The removal of DEI has been 222 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: a big part of that. But it also is a 223 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: good example and underscores where Trump is coming from when 224 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: it comes to so many of the suggestions that he 225 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: is putting forward. They're not all going to be great, 226 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: not all of them should be implemented, but they're coming 227 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: from a very genuine place, and it certainly runs counter 228 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: to the typical liberal narratives that you hear about President 229 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump as they suffer from their Trump derangement syndrome. 230 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Lack of Snap benefits impacts some small town grocery stores 231 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: already on the brink. I'll tell you what percentage of 232 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: sales is actually made up of individuals on Snap and 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: how it's had an impact in some of our rural communities. Also, 234 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Target makes another move on top of their ten to 235 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: four plan relating to customer service. I'll let you know 236 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: they have planned and what you can expect if you 237 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: are shopping at Target. It's all coming up on Twin 238 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: City's News Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three 239 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: five FM. 240 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Twin City's News Talk. 241 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: Am eleven thirty one O three five FM. 242 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: Glad you're with the show this morning. 243 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Are a few more talkbacks regarding a number of different issues. 244 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: H one b Visa's Trump's controversial statements. At least you'd 245 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: buy some on Laura Ingram last night, the possibilities. 246 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: Are all just ideas of fifty. 247 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Year mortgages, tariff dividend checks. Again, I'm going to get 248 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: to a few more of your comments from the iHeartRadio app. 249 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: Talkbacks to you by Lyndall Realty. 250 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Great morning to you. 251 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 7: John Trump is merely defending the skilled immigrants that come in, 252 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 7: which quite nicely contrasts the Democrats who thinks that the 253 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 7: immigrant labor coming in is only worth picking raspberries and 254 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 7: changing your hotel sheets. 255 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: As we've heard over the past six. 256 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 7: Months from the left, you hit the point right on 257 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 7: the head with that analysis. 258 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 8: On that fifty year mortgage. It's not like people buy 259 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 8: one house and stay in it forever. It's an opportunity 260 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 8: to get into a house and then they can turn 261 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 8: around either a refinance it or be sell it in 262 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 8: ten years. So maybe they didn't get as much equity, 263 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 8: but they've probably got a better financial situation in their 264 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 8: life and they'll move on to their next house. 265 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: People need to chill. Jeez. Thank you Alta for the 266 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: talk back. Very much appreciated. All right. 267 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court on Tuesday extended in order blocking the 268 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: SNAP payments amid signals the government shutdown could soon end 269 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: and food aid payments resume. The justices did take essentially 270 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the path of least resistance on the issue. 271 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: They ended up. 272 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Side stepping a full legal ruling instead betting that the 273 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: federal shutdown woulds and is coming to an end. 274 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: The move lets them avoid weighing. 275 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: In on whether the lower courts were right to keep 276 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: the SNAP benefits flowing during the lapse. And again you 277 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: had the administration going along with two rulings on Halloween 278 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: by judges who said the government must provide at least 279 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: partial funding for SNAP, eventually going so far as to 280 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: say that recipients would get sixty five percent of regular 281 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: SNAP benefits. But it did push back last week when 282 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: one of the judges said they must fully fund SNAP 283 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: in November, even if that means digging into funds the 284 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: government said would be needed and had to be maintained 285 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: in in case of emergencies elsewhere. The Supreme Court agreed 286 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: to pause that order, and like I said, the system 287 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: just isn't designed for a shutdown forcing a situation that 288 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: doesn't have a pathway to be created, in this case, 289 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: a government shutdown that went on as long as it 290 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: did and ended up just creating chaos. And these judges 291 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: did this intentionally to create this chaos. Regarding the Snap benefits, 292 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: this game as a surprise to me, although once you 293 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: read it, you go that makes sense. 294 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Not good though. 295 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: University of Minnesota research shows that some stores have thin 296 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: profit margins as it is, we know this could further 297 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: be exacerbated and were by customers not shopping there if 298 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: they didn't have Snap benefits. 299 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: One individual who. 300 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Runs the Glen's Supervalue in Winstead, Minnesota, said that his 301 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: name is Jordan said, we're kind of curious just how 302 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: it would affect our business, you know, since a lot 303 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: of people do rely on those benefits. His parents bought 304 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the grocery store more than thirty years ago. 305 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Snap recipients make up ten percent of its sales. 306 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Federal data shows that nearly two thousand people in mccloyd 307 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: County alone are Snap recipients. So what happens when people 308 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: get off SNAP? I mean, I suppose you would still 309 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: have them shopping there potentially, right. It's just sad in 310 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: my view that the stores are also so reliant on welfare, 311 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: but then again, that may be by design. The University 312 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: of Minnesota says that there are two hundred and fifty 313 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: rural grocery stores like Glenn's Supervalue across the state. Meanwhile, 314 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: the owner of this particular one says they'll continue to 315 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: serve the community while the confusion continues in Washington, d C. 316 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: And hopefully that ends soon. Speaking of food prices, though, 317 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: we'll go to this briefly. We'll talk with lawyer Extraordinator 318 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: Jeff O'Brien as he joins me in studio gets himself comfort. 319 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: Yesterday we were talking about Target employees and their new 320 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: ten four plan. At first I thought the ten four 321 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: stood four like ten four like thumbs up. But no, 322 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: ten four means if you are an employee and you're 323 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: within ten feet of somebody, you have to. 324 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: Smile or wave. 325 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: The fore stands for is that if you're in four 326 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: feet of somebody, you need to go and ask if 327 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: they need any help. I'm just sad that we actually 328 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: have to go and put in feet with this at all. 329 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: This all should be a given for those working there. 330 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: On top of this, though, Target continues to look for 331 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: ways to bring customers back to their stores, and they 332 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: have announced new price cuts on thousands of products this 333 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: month to help families stretch their budgets through the holiday season. 334 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: They're lowering prices on some three thousand food, beverage, and 335 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: household essential items, from pantry staples to baby products to 336 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: make everything everyday shopping more affordable. I don't know about 337 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: you might be enough to have me go shop the Target. 338 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: If anything, I just want to see if the ten 339 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: to four plan actually is working and people are actually 340 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: going and doing that. Jeff O'Brien's just staring at me. 341 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Jeff, Good morning. How you doing this morning? 342 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 9: But I'm doing well. 343 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: You got a Target often occasionally on occasion, Okay, maybe 344 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: you not should go after the show is over and 345 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: we can test it out. You go four feet away 346 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: from an employee, I'll go ten and see if we 347 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: get a smile in a wave and you see if 348 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: anybody asks you for help. Speaking of needing help, some 349 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of our businesses might need help depending on the federal 350 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: shutdown deal and what it may or may not do 351 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: to Minnesota's hemp derived THHC market. This is why we 352 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: have lawyer extraordinator Jeff O'Brien in studio. The spending bill 353 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: passed by the Senate that now sits in the House 354 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: and should be voted on this evening, according to the 355 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: story that I have here from the Minnesota Star Tribune, 356 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: would essentially ban hemput base to THCHC products nationally, which 357 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: would potentially have in the future a big impact on 358 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: this industry. Jeff O'Brien, our lawyer extraordinaire, is going to 359 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: help us break all of that down that next If 360 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: you have any questions, get your talkbacks into the iHeartRadio 361 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: app and we'll play those coming up on Twinsday's news 362 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Talk Am eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 363 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 10: It amazes me here every day on every talk show 364 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 10: in the country, we talked about how the government is 365 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 10: screwing a sober but yet we're willing to go along with. 366 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: A fifty year mortgage. 367 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 10: The people that move in on a fifty year mortgage 368 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 10: or people that can't afford the house in the first place, 369 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 10: and I'll just run it down. 370 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 2: Let me stop here. That's an over generalization. 371 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: And I don't want to pick on any one talkback 372 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: regarding this issue. But as far as I know, the 373 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: whole fifty year mortgage plan has just been an idea 374 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: that Trump has put out there. He's talked about it 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: some people. There is nothing said in stone yet. Welcome 376 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: back to Win City's News Talk Am eleven thirty one 377 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: oh three five FM from the six five to one 378 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: Carpet Next Day Install Studios. Just backing a bit, backing 379 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: up a bit, And this is kind of what I've 380 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: been doing with all these various issues. 381 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 2: Just Republicans. 382 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes we just can't get out of our own way. 383 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: It drives me a little, It drives me a little nuts. 384 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: I understand everybody's entitled to their opinion. I don't want 385 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: to push back on any of that. But again, all 386 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: of these issues and suggestions that Trump has had have 387 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: just been that. They've just been suggestions while he looks 388 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: at ways to go and improve the country and get 389 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: us back on track. And clearly the idea of a 390 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: fifty year mortgage has ruffled a lot of individuals. Feathers 391 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: lawyer Extraordinair, Jeff O'Brien, you want to weigh on the 392 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: fifty year mortgage. 393 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 11: I'll say a couple things. The h you know, if 394 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 11: you want to make people will afford homes. You know, 395 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 11: if you look at in history where the era where 396 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 11: people had big, beautiful homes, there was an income tax. 397 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 9: So just pointing that out. 398 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 11: Second of all, if you're going to have some sort 399 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 11: of mortgage reform rather than a fifty year mortgage, let's 400 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 11: let's make assumable mortgages more accepted, so that if I 401 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 11: want to sell my house with my three point eight 402 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 11: seven five interest rate, someone can buy it and stay 403 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 11: at a three point eight seven five interest rate versus 404 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 11: a fifty year mortgage at a seven or eight percent 405 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 11: interest rate. I think that will do much more to 406 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 11: stimulate the housing market if people can buy houses that 407 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 11: have very low interest rates already locked in. 408 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: Just the thought everybody's just so so amped up. 409 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: You know, people needed a partake, and we'll maybe some 410 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: more THHC products, although if things move forward, you may 411 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: not be able to do that. So Lyric Short and 412 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Air Jeff O'Brien has joined us in studio. This broke yesterday. 413 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: Every single news outlet has a story on this. So 414 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota's pioneering THC industry, according to the to the Star 415 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: Tribune could collapse if a provision included in the deal 416 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: to end the federal government shutdown becomes law. Let's just 417 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: say this upfront, and they do say this in the 418 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: third paragraph here. The federal measure, if passed, would take 419 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: effect one year after enactment. 420 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: So, I guess my first question for. 421 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: You is is there a lot of unnecessary freak out 422 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: going on regarding this given that there's a year window, 423 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: or is this because it would have such a dramatic 424 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: impact it would take a year for these businesses to 425 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: get their affairs in order. 426 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 11: Well, I think it's good that there's some level of 427 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 11: freak out about it, so that the consumers that use 428 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 11: these products contact their elected officials in Washington and demand 429 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 11: that they do something about this overall in the next 430 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 11: year and just and you know, this is one of 431 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 11: those areas, probably one of the rare areas where Minnesota 432 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 11: actually got something right ahead of other states. And Minnesota 433 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 11: has been the model for this of regulating these these 434 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 11: hemp derived THHC products similar to what you would do 435 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 11: with cannabis. And so for those that maybe don't track 436 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 11: this as closely as those of us that are working 437 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 11: with folks in the industry. There are states that don't 438 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 11: have that type of system, and so some of what 439 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 11: the reasoning behind closing this loophole, and it's referred to 440 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 11: as a loophole, it was it was the twenty eighteen 441 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 11: Farm Bill exempted out these products from the definition of cannabis, 442 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 11: which you know it was originally it was Senator McConnell 443 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 11: that was that was spurring this on to get an 444 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 11: industrial the industrial hemp industry in his state boosted, you know, 445 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 11: to be able to take off without being considered making 446 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 11: illegal products. It led to this market and ironically it's 447 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 11: Senator McConnell that slips this provision into the reopen bill 448 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 11: to basically close this loophole. 449 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is what this is how it breaks down. 450 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: So the bill that passed the Senate on Monday, the 451 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: House is going to vote on it tonight and includes 452 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: language that would effectively ban hemp products containing more than 453 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: zero point four milligrams of THC. That's the psychoactive ingredient 454 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: in cannabis. It's different from your CBD. The limit with 455 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: outlaw intoxicating hemp based products in Minnesota, which allows edibles 456 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: containing up to five milligrams of THHD per serving and 457 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: beverages containing up to ten milligrams. And so for those 458 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: that aren't aware, there have been shops where you can 459 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: go smoke shops and otherwise and you call them headshops whatever, 460 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: where you can go and buy various tobacco products and 461 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: bongs and you know who goes and things of that nature. 462 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: But they also sold these these gummies and products that 463 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: have specifically Delta eight and Delta nine. These are the 464 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: things that were regulated differently apart from your more straightforward marijuana. 465 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: It's a less potent version of what you'd get in 466 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: regular in regular marijuana products and therefore hadn't been hadn't 467 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: gone through the process of the legalization. 468 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: Right, this is completely separate from the legalizations correct of marijuana. 469 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: So you already have businesses out there that have been 470 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: selling these products for a very long time. This bill 471 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: would essentially do what to those businesses that aren't currently 472 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: selling your more legalized recreational marijuana. 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 11: For those that are, let's take a Minnesota example, we 474 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 11: just closed the license application window for what we call 475 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 11: low potency hemp edible licenses manufacturing wholesale and retail. And 476 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 11: so you know, a couple of years ago, when these 477 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 11: products were made legal in Minnesota, a business that was 478 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 11: making them or selling them had to register with the 479 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 11: state to inform to put them on notice that they 480 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 11: were making or selling these products, so that the state 481 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 11: had a chance to you know, inspect their premises or 482 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 11: inspect their products and you know, ensure that they were 483 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 11: in compliance with the law. The light when the license 484 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 11: window opened, those that were registered that applied for a 485 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 11: license could continue to sell while their license application is pending. 486 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 11: If you stop, if you didn't apply for a license, 487 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 11: you have to stop selling. 488 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: Products. Right when did that? 489 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: So the license the licensing on those particular products just started. 490 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And these are the these were the secondary to recreational 491 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: marijuana now and just to reiterate that was a part 492 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: of the legalization of recreational marijuana was that was the 493 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: bringing those particular products. 494 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 11: Well, there was one statute that previously allowed the sale 495 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 11: of the legal hemp products, the adult use can. This 496 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 11: law brought them all under one would ultimately created a 497 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 11: path put everything under one system, have it regulated by 498 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 11: the Office of Cannabis Management. And there is a type 499 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 11: of cannabis business license, the micro business that does allow 500 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 11: anabi like a retail cannabis dispensary to also sell hemp products. 501 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 9: And they're the same way. 502 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 11: While their license, while their final approval is pending, they 503 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 11: if they were registered, they can continue to sell these products. 504 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: So and just to make sure everybody's aware those products 505 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: prior to the legalization of recreational marijuana, those were available 506 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: and could only be purchased by those that were over 507 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: twenty one. 508 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 2: That was already correct. 509 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: So was there any attempt to keep them separated, to 510 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: keep the recreational marijuana separate from these other products, in 511 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: which case those that are currently selling them didn't have 512 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: to bother getting a license since they were already selling 513 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: these products. 514 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: It seems like. 515 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: We were creating more of a burden on those businesses 516 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: that had already shown to be reputable businesses and selling 517 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: these products by including them with recreational marijuana. 518 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 11: Well, it's it's it's a recognition that it is. It's 519 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 11: the hemp products are they're they're kind of a hybrid 520 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 11: and and you know, at our firm, we we we 521 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 11: kind of treat them as kind of this this standalone 522 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 11: thing because you want to say that it's a close 523 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 11: cousin to cannabis, but you also have all these uh, 524 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 11: you know, small breweries making the hemp beverages, right, and 525 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 11: so they it really kind of spans these two regulated industries, 526 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 11: and and and and there's and AND's and and there's 527 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 11: differenting opinions. Like the fight that we're having at the 528 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 11: federal level, you have it's it's it's largely you have 529 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 11: the cannabis industry and the alcohol beverage industry questioning why 530 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 11: they have to be so heavily regulated, but this these 531 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 11: hemp products and and like I said, for those in Minnesota, 532 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 11: it's it's you're probably questioning what the heck is going 533 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 11: on because you there, we do have this regular tory system. 534 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 11: Texas has adopted something similar to US. Minnesota has become 535 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 11: the model for this at the state level that are 536 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 11: adopting a regulatory system and a licensing system. But there 537 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 11: are states where that's not the case. And that's what 538 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 11: the concern or the opposition has been is why do 539 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 11: they get to run around being completely unregulated where we 540 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 11: have to jump through all these hoops and have to 541 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 11: deal with all these other issues as part of our business. 542 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: So with the change in this law, and let's discuss 543 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: this from an angle of instead of a year from now. 544 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: Let's just say it starts on Monday. Okay, So if. 545 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: This ban's products that contain more than zero point four 546 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: milligrams of THC, what happens to those businesses that are 547 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: already selling these products that contain the five milligrams per 548 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: serving or ten milig and beverages. How would they go 549 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: about to continue to sell those products? Would they then 550 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: have to get a recreational license to do so? 551 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 11: Not in Minnesota, because Minnesota has carved out these low 552 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 11: potency HEMP cedible licenses. What happens, though, is from the 553 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 11: it curtails this, you know, the selling and distribution of 554 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 11: these products into other states. Because if it's if those 555 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 11: products that are say five and ten milligrams are now 556 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 11: illegal under federal law, right now, you have the same 557 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 11: interstate commerce issues that cannabis does. So here, you know, 558 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 11: in Minnesota legalizing adult used cannabis, it means that it's large, 559 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 11: it's going to be sold within the state of Minnesota. 560 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 11: Right you can't sell, you can't transport cannabis across state 561 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 11: lines into Wisconsin or Iowa or any other state because 562 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 11: it's illegal under federal law, it's a crime to do that. 563 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 11: It's not a crime if it's if it's if it's 564 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 11: moved around here in Minnesota, which is its legal life 565 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 11: and has a licensing system. So what it does, and 566 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 11: it also there's a nasty tax effect from this. Where 567 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 11: you know a cannabis business, there's a code section called 568 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 11: two ADE which doesn't allow cannabis businesses to deduct a 569 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 11: lot of costs and expenses from their revenue. 570 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 9: So they get hit with a nasty tax. 571 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 11: If at the federal level they're treating these five and 572 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 11: ten milligram products the same as cannabis right now, those 573 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 11: businesses will similarly be hit. So these these the problem 574 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 11: we have here, John, is there's businesses that have invested 575 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 11: a lot of capital in equipment and labor and everything else, 576 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 11: knowing that they can scale these this this these businesses 577 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 11: up and sell into other states, and this is now 578 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 11: they're going to curtail their sales by doing this. 579 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 12: Now, aren't we already by legalizing recreational marijuana here in Minnesota, 580 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 12: aren't we in that case also pushing back against. 581 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: The federal law. Yes, so technically they should still be 582 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: able to sell. 583 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, for the for the Minnesota consumer, this shouldn't affect 584 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 11: your ability to obtain those products. But for if the 585 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 11: business is struggling financially because of all these other constraints 586 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 11: that have now put on it, they may not be 587 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 11: able to produce and sell these products. 588 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: So okay, So how would it end up killing And 589 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: I know we're going I'm just trying to break it 590 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: all down because this seems really confusing. How would it 591 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: ultimately end up killing these businesses if they're now pushing 592 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: back against federal law, but we are also pushing back 593 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: against federal law by selling recreational marijuana products, in which 594 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: case I would just argue that, well, if we're already 595 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: selling them over here, we already have it established, then 596 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: we can continue to push back against federal law in 597 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: selling these hemp derived products that aren't technically your recreational marijuana. 598 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a good question. 599 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 11: The issue is you have these these businesses that were 600 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 11: you know, started predicated on these products being legal. Okay, 601 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 11: and there's certain you know, you know you can they 602 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 11: may have been able to obtain financing a bank loan, 603 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 11: you know they aren't. They're they're having bank accounts, all 604 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 11: these things you know e said the tax issue and 605 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 11: those things all go away when it's now a business 606 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 11: that's prohibited by federal laws. So in terms of killing 607 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 11: the industry, it's in theory. Yeah, the products may still 608 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 11: be here, but the the but for the fact that 609 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 11: those that are making it are going to be in 610 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 11: a lot of it's going to create financial issues for 611 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 11: the businesses and and and threaten their existence. 612 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: Why is it not creating those financial Why is it 613 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: not creating those same issues for those that are going 614 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: to are going to go and open up, say, recordtional 615 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: marijuana dispensary. 616 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 11: Because the people going into the marijuana business already know 617 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 11: what the parameters and restrictions are going in and their 618 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 11: business model they're financing. Everything that they're doing is taking 619 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 11: that into account. Where with the hemp industry, it's almost 620 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 11: like the rug's been pulled out from Katham. 621 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to this question here from the 622 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app talking with lawyer extraordinair Jeff O'Brien this morning. 623 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 13: Hi, John, could you ask if this change will affect 624 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 13: the food products that are derived from hemp non THHC, 625 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 13: like hemp seeds and oils and that sort of thing. 626 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 11: There's always been some portions of the hemp plant that 627 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 11: have been allowed for various things. So as long as 628 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 11: there's if it's if it's not, if the THHC content is, 629 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 11: if it's non THCHC, this provision shouldn't affect them. 630 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 4: Party John. 631 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: On the marijuana, it's hard to hear. 632 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Let me read, let me read the talk back here 633 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: they say on marijuana, the selling aspect of this. Everybody's 634 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: growing their own, they say, I haven't. But I haven't 635 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: seen or heard a single friend or anybody who's going 636 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: to a dispensary. Obviously you can't get anything anyways. But 637 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: everyone's either growing their own or is everyone's getting their 638 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: own or growing their own. The market's never going to 639 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: take off. Let me just back up here real quick. 640 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: I completely disagree with that. There are I can I 641 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: can name three different businesses within a two mile radius 642 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: of my home that sells these derived to products and 643 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: people go and purchase them, purchase them all the time. 644 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is they've been a big business. 645 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 9: They've been big business. 646 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 647 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 11: If the point that the caller was making about the 648 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 11: cannabis businesses that are now opening up, that that's not 649 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 11: going to be the demand there. 650 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 9: Well, we don't know yet. The time will tell. 651 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 11: They're they're only now being you know, being approved and 652 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 11: coming online and being. 653 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 9: Able to sell product. 654 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 11: So this is the first time that we've had you know, 655 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 11: full spectrum cannabis products being available to Minnesota consumers. So 656 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 11: I guess the jury still out as to or this 657 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 11: is all going to break down between hemp derived THHC 658 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 11: and cannabis. 659 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: But there are certainly plenty of people that are going 660 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: and purchasing these secondary products. For lack of a better 661 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: way to describe them, I mean, and you go into 662 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: there was actually a quote from Top ten Liquors in here, 663 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: which is near my house, and they sell these the 664 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: beverages that have these products. 665 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: Let's go here to this talk about We've. 666 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 14: Asked mister O'Brien if he knows if and when the 667 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 14: federal government will change the scheduling of THC so that 668 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 14: consumers like myself with safety sensitive jobs don't have to 669 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 14: fear of losing their jobs or having to go through 670 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 14: the SAP process. 671 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another aspect of as we haven't talked about yet, 672 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: and that is potentially what Trump could actually do relating 673 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: to marijuana. 674 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 11: I will say this, I think there's a growing push 675 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 11: to allow the states to regulate these industries, and industry 676 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 11: is being both cannabis and hemp. I saw the night 677 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 11: of the vote in the Senate. I saw Ted Cruz 678 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 11: put out a post on x saying we should follow 679 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 11: the lead of my home state and regulate. 680 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 9: Let the states regulate this and get the federal government 681 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 9: out of it. 682 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 11: I saw Dan Congressman Dan Crenshaw say something similar. It'll 683 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 11: be interesting to see the House vote today. I was 684 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 11: talking with a colleague of mine who is like the 685 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 11: foremost expert on the hemp beverage laws in the country. 686 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 9: She thinks it might. 687 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 11: She said, I'd put the chances at ten percent that 688 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 11: somehow this there's a hiccup in the House and the 689 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 11: approval of the cr over this issue. My guess would be, 690 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 11: if anybody's going to start going to light the fire, 691 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 11: it's going to be Thomas Massey, being he's from Kentucky 692 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 11: too and kind of a kindred spirit with Rand Paul 693 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 11: that he may be the one to to you know, 694 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 11: force some sort of a you know, a vote or 695 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 11: something in the House on on this. 696 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 9: But you know, it's in terms of the risk scheduling. 697 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 11: I've said this many times publicly, and I'll say it 698 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 11: on the air here. I believe that the President has 699 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 11: made the decision to move it to Schedule three. That's 700 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 11: all the reports I hear, and that it's sometime between 701 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 11: now in the midterms, and he's simply waiting for when 702 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 11: it will incur maximum political benefit to make the change. 703 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And whether or not this particular issue was I 704 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: kind of doubt that this is particularly the issue or 705 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: go and do it. 706 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 11: I think I think that, you know, I think there's 707 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 11: some some talk about, you know, trying to read the vote, 708 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 11: you know, the who was voting for what here. I 709 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 11: think there's a push to get this, this cr this 710 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 11: continuing resolution through before the Democrats in the Senate get 711 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 11: cold feet because of the revolt that's happening from their 712 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 11: party right now on what they agreed to. Right so, 713 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 11: there's a push to get this quickly done. The fact 714 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 11: that they put the one year deferment in there is 715 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 11: giving a window for a further negotiations, further policy making 716 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 11: at the federal level to have some sort of regulatory 717 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 11: system or some way of dealing with this other than 718 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 11: this outright ban. 719 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 9: And I think they're going to revisit. 720 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 11: And you know, we were talking actually in preparation of this, 721 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 11: and I was joking that because the reason, the reason 722 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 11: McConnell is for this, you know, Mitch McConnell is retiring. 723 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 11: He and I was told he has a library at 724 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 11: at the University of Louisville. 725 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Hold on, Okay, hold that thought. 726 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I want you to hang out here 727 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: for just a moment because I want you to tell 728 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: the story. Okay, And looking at the clock, we have 729 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: a few more comments and questions that come in and 730 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: I actually have one too, and I definitely want. 731 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: Everyone to hear this story. 732 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: So Lawyer Sterner, Jeff O'Brien joins this in studio, is 733 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna hang out a little bit longer as we continue 734 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: to break this down. And again this is because it 735 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: kind of came as a shock to everybody that this 736 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: federal shutdown bill could end up having a major impact 737 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: on a lot of businesses here in Minnesota. And these 738 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: businesses are really concerned about whether or not they're going 739 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: to be able to stay in business if this particular 740 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: provision passes the bill. 741 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: We'll get into more of this coming up. 742 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: Any comments or questions that you have, get those into 743 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app Talkbacks. It's win City's News Talk AM 744 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM. 745 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: Good morning, and I love your show.