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Speaker 2: The number to call for angst is A three to

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Speaker 2: just is embarrassed that you had to watch what you watch.

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Speaker 2: What you've been watching with your favorite team, and you

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Speaker 2: know they're going nowhere. Please admit it to yourself. You'll

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Speaker 2: losing the Green Bay and the Steelers played so sloppy.

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Speaker 2: All the new guys except for Rogers ain't done grades,

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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, ain't no game breaker, a lot of drops.

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Speaker 2: Ramsey's a slot corner on a cover guy. Slay is

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Speaker 2: totally washed, He's gone from big play. Sleigh just shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Play at all.

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Speaker 2: Slay and Tomlin don't forget makes all the personnel decisions.

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Speaker 2: Tomlin can't be blamed enough. He is the root cause

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Speaker 2: of all that's gone wrong. Some producer with the B

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Speaker 2: team tweeted, if you blame pum when you're just blazy

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Speaker 2: and can't come up with the real reason, they're losing. Dude,

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Speaker 2: you're the problem with that station. They shouldn't open the

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Speaker 2: mic for the producer. Just twiddle knobs and shut the

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Speaker 2: frig up. Know your role and stay in your lane. Actually,

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Speaker 2: the one guy, what's his name, the limits guy, he's okay.

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Speaker 2: But the rest of them, boy, if you put them

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Speaker 2: in a burlap sack and beat it with a microphone,

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Speaker 2: whoever got stitches would deserve it or pierce nipples whatever.

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis is going to come to Akroscher and put up points,

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Speaker 2: and the Lchargers the opponent the week after they're coming

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Speaker 2: on rebate felt like a game the Steelers would yank

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Speaker 2: out for no good reason. But I said that because

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Speaker 2: I'm a dope, and they didn't and did not look

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Speaker 2: good in the process. Although the process did involve some yanking.

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Speaker 2: This does not feel fixable. And I told you, I

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Speaker 2: told Jim, I told you about what about Cam, about everything?

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Speaker 2: I told you. None of this should be a big surprise.

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Speaker 2: The field wasn't great at Acressure. After Pitt played on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Rogers looked like he slipped once when he was throwing.

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Speaker 2: They just put sand on every spot they considered a

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Speaker 2: little bit dicey. But the badfield is way low on

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Speaker 2: the list of problems for the Steelers right now. I

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Speaker 2: said on Tim Bens's podcast, looked like a remake of Doone.

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Speaker 2: There was sand everywhere, and I would trust Shallamet in

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Speaker 2: Manda Man coverage before I trust Darius Slay. Darius shouldn't

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Speaker 2: play sligh. A lot of this crap h really is

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Speaker 2: chickens coming home to roost. The defense was supposed to

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Speaker 2: be historic Tomlins were not, and it's allowing an average

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Speaker 2: of three hundred and eighty six yards per game. Four

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four yards allowed last night. When the

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Speaker 2: defense allows more yards than I'm comfortable walking, that is

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Speaker 2: a problem.

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Speaker 1: No sacks last night, no takeaways last night.

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Speaker 2: And when the Steelers don't put up showbiz stats like

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Speaker 2: that on defense, they got very little chance to win.

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Speaker 2: But let's be honest, and I've said this, how do

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Speaker 2: you feel knowing that everything I've said that you hated

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Speaker 2: when I said it is turning out to be absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel in revisiting this one? DJ Watt

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Speaker 2: doesn't care about winning. He doesn't care about winning. He's

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Speaker 2: money and stats and accolades. Maybe that's how the modern

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Speaker 1: But TJ. Watt doesn't care about winning. You know how.

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Speaker 1: I know he's a real good player, and he never wins. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers keep flunking football one on one, all those mistackles.

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Speaker 2: You got this supposed genius coach and you got all

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Speaker 2: these mistackles and drops and dumb penalties and lack of discipline.

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Speaker 2: Tomin's a fraud, always has been, always has been, and

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Speaker 2: he'll never get fired. So you get to see this

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again moving forward. You get

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Speaker 2: to hear his empty platitudes and not right horseman or

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again moving forward. Like the

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Speaker 2: teams I like, like the Penguins, they got problems, they

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Speaker 2: put a plan.

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Speaker 1: Together to try and solve them.

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Speaker 2: Tom Win don't got no plan, ain't never had no

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Speaker 2: plan beyond trying to win the next week, no strategy

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Speaker 2: beyond showing up and being the Steelers. And he won't

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Speaker 2: hire coaches who know more than he does, which is

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Speaker 2: why he's going a bunch of adults like Tara Austin.

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Speaker 2: While that's his lackey on defense, Arthur Smith, who I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: If this offense was any more prehistoric, it would have

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Speaker 2: it's just a disaster, and I gotta tell you I

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Speaker 2: I'm the super genius, and this is funny. At frig

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Speaker 2: I almost said funny afdf work, because that's how funny

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Speaker 2: it is funny enough that I would risk getting fired

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Speaker 2: to say the right word for how funny it is.

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Speaker 1: Because it is funny as that. If you don't think so,

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Speaker 1: I feel sorry for it.

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Speaker 2: You've got no sense of humor anyway, calling out with

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Speaker 2: we got some some fire sound from guys like Rex

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Speaker 1: Smith. So keep it right here on the home of

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Speaker 1: Intact Nipples one oh five ninety X. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: make us play a wild game. It's not fair.

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Speaker 2: It's not fair.

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Speaker 3: It's not fair.

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Speaker 2: The X one O five nine, the midth of the

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Speaker 2: Elite Steeler defense might finally be Dan here's Rex Ryan

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Speaker 2: on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: This is unrecognizable to me. This is not the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: And we saw it with Baltimore. We see it with them.

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Speaker 4: When you get old, you get slow, and if you're slow,

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Speaker 4: you can't do anything defensively. And I don't know the

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Speaker 1: Boy did he have a bad day. By the way,

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Speaker 4: On that deep pass right there.

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Speaker 3: You know are.

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Speaker 1: A little you know t ball.

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Speaker 4: Center fielder has no idea how to track a ball.

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Speaker 4: It was embarrassing as hell from start to finish for

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Speaker 1: Twenty two is Stornhill, by the way, who does suck?

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Speaker 2: And that's a great take on that deep ball that

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Speaker 2: Love did a good job dropping in, But the play

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Speaker 2: was there to be made by the defense. Let's look

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Speaker 2: honestly at the secondary. Slay is totally washed up, shouldn't

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Speaker 2: He's an okay slot corner, nothing better. Porter sucks, very disappointing.

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Speaker 2: Eccles is a backup. Elliott can't be your best safety.

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Speaker 2: Clark and Thornhill don't even belong in the league, let

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Speaker 2: alone on the field. And that's it. That's the list.

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Speaker 2: Porter is the most frustrating. He just hasn't developed. If anything,

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Speaker 2: he's gotten worse since a decent rookie year. Let's got

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Speaker 2: a scoot Scoots you wrong with double M what?

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Speaker 1: What mine?

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Speaker 3: How in the frig do you give a thirty year

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Speaker 3: old non quarterback one hundred and forty million dollars? Is

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Speaker 3: that one of the worst contracts in Pittsburgh sports history.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'd have to go back and look at all

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Speaker 2: the contracts. But the thing is it was said the

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Speaker 2: what contract was was avoidable because you could have just said,

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Speaker 2: play out the last year of your contract and then

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Speaker 2: we'll franchise you if you think you're good enough, and

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Speaker 2: he would have been mad. He would have played. And

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Speaker 2: in the Steelers are soft arts, a soft owner. He

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Speaker 2: never wants anybody to be unhappy, even for second. His

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Speaker 2: dad would have handled it, you know, before he got

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Speaker 2: feeble and then passed, But before that, his dad would

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Speaker 2: have handled it a lot different.

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Speaker 3: Who's defending do you think is worse? The Steelers or Liverpools.

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Speaker 1: I know Liverpools will get better. Let's go to Pat, Pat,

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Speaker 1: You're on with double M.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Sibertanius, How are you great? I just got a

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Speaker 3: quick question for you. A comparison between James Franklin and

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin. He made the comment when they fired James Franklin,

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Speaker 3: why what are they going to get? But whence you

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Speaker 3: say they're both equal, they both can't win the big games.

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Speaker 2: James Franklin had one bad season, was in the semi

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Speaker 2: finals of the National Collegiate Playoff just last year. He

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Speaker 2: got fired for one bad year. Tomlin hasn't won a

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Speaker 2: playoff game eight years in a row. It's tough to

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Speaker 2: think you sound almost imbecilic to compare the two.

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Speaker 1: But thank you for the call. Yeah, Franklin had won

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Speaker 1: bad year, got fired.

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Speaker 2: If tom Win had been in the conference championship game

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Speaker 2: last year, I wouldn't be is critical of what's gone

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Speaker 2: on this year. But what's gone on this year has

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Speaker 2: gone on for the past seven years. Two four one

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Speaker 2: two three three three WXDX. Here's what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: when it comes to TJ. Watt is teflon. I got

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Speaker 2: a tweet from somebody we paid TJ. What all this

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Speaker 2: money needs to produce quoting me, I can't get to

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Speaker 2: the quarterback in one point five seconds. The DBS aren't covering. Okay, listen,

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Speaker 2: it was like that when Watt was in his prime too.

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Speaker 2: I like when I hear he's getting chipped, he's getting

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Speaker 2: double team. That always happened to him. That always happened

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Speaker 2: to him. But now we can't handle it, and he's

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Speaker 2: getting forty one million a year. That's the problem. The

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Speaker 2: same thing is being used to neutralize TJ. Watt as

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Speaker 2: other teams always did, but now it's working even as

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Speaker 2: he's peaked in terms of paycheck. All right, not nex's

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about football guru Matt Williamson one oh five

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Just big and it's soft and I

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Speaker 1: use a bunch of pillows and I saw the ex

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Speaker 1: at one oh five nine.

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Speaker 2: Here's a great tweet by Jerry Doulac at the Post Gazette.

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Speaker 2: There is nothing wrong with the Steelers offense that a

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Speaker 2: good defense couldn't fix. I wholeheartedly agree. Joining me now

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Speaker 2: to talk Steelers. He is our football guru. The former

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Speaker 2: pro and college football Scott from Steelers Nation Radio. Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson madsons, I'm not sure where to begin what went

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Speaker 2: the most wrong last night.

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Speaker 3: That's a great tweet by Jerry, by the way, and

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I mean, we could nitpick a

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Speaker 3: couple of little things on offense, but man, this defense

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Speaker 3: is just a collapse. And the joke I've been making

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Speaker 3: is they're just handing out completions these last two weeks

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Speaker 3: like Talloween Candy. I mean, there are no it's way

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Speaker 3: too easy on opposing tacks, passing games and just handing

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Speaker 3: out easy, quick completions. And this is not an excuse

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Speaker 3: to the team, because everyone deals with hardship. But there

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Speaker 3: was a short stretch there, starting with the Tucker Craft

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Speaker 3: catch on a basically a hail Mary heave armpunt downfield

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Speaker 3: where you know he is the best player out there,

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Speaker 3: reeks havoc on the play run after the catch, Elliott

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Speaker 3: gets hurt on the play, and then there were like

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Speaker 3: in that neighborhood of the game, and they just weren't physically, emotionally,

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Speaker 3: mentally tough to get over it. You know, some injuries,

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Speaker 2: Well, if you made me pick the biggest problems with

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Speaker 3: I think that's all, for the most part true right now.

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Speaker 3: I think they're past their peak, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: bad at safety. I'm an Elliott fan, but if he's

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge Elliot fan, and he cleaned up a

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Speaker 3: I would consider. I'm not sure what the best answer is,

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Speaker 3: But I hear you, yes, Minka is missed. He's a

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Speaker 2: Now, there are some guys I think are in a

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Speaker 3: One thousand percent. And I had hoped that he'd be

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Speaker 3: you know the Rams are like the smartest team in

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Speaker 3: They call it a star or a dime or a safety.

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Speaker 3: But the thing he's gonna follow Jamar Chase around like

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Speaker 2: Why is what quiet? Because even if we disagree about

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Speaker 1: He's not doing much, is he.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not, and this isn't new for him, but

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Speaker 3: a great deal, Okay, I mean I think there's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you said, that's always been going on

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Speaker 3: He'd start to disappear again too. I think there's a

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Speaker 3: down at the line scrimmage, as they always do. But

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Speaker 3: but as a pass rusher, almost all of Watt's production

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Speaker 3: not a one trick Tony. And it's a great trick.

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Speaker 3: But the world knows what's coming.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's the the guy that throws one hundred mile an

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Speaker 3: And now his fastball is ninety eight, you know what

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Speaker 1: Like you, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to nitpick too much with the offense.

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Speaker 2: I think they're doing enough. I mean, there's some things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done. I've been on the air a lot

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Speaker 3: there's a player two in this game where it just

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Speaker 3: look at a guy like John new Smith and I

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Speaker 1: INDI in the LA Charge are going to be tough

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Speaker 1: nuts to crack, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Indyes, Indy's the best offense in the league. And

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Speaker 3: I trust their run defense more than I do their

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Speaker 3: pass defense. But Halloween's right around the corner. And Jonathan

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Speaker 2: How much does it hurt of Siamalo winell miss games,

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Speaker 3: I only see him all who's been playing great, And

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Speaker 3: So our earlier point about Elliott, it's amazing to me

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Speaker 3: he's way more important than he should be to your

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Speaker 2: We talked about nitpicking on offense and one other thing

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Speaker 1: For field goals.

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Speaker 3: For me, Yes, if we were going to keep on

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Speaker 3: And Jalen Warren can't have three second half carries when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my one disclaimer with boss Well, who probably

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quite possibly. And frankly, the streak of not losing seasons,

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Speaker 3: there would no chance still be intact if they just

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Speaker 1: How'd you right?

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Speaker 2: was precise. But he's being used as just a game manager,

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Speaker 2: isn't He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Try a lot.

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Speaker 3: Now I really respect him from the neck up too.

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Speaker 1: Like his pre snap stuff is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable, and he really is in control of the game.

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Speaker 3: And I love that he choose out the coaches and

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Speaker 3: players when they screw up. And it's easy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: in the past people have looked at him like, what

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Speaker 3: a prima donna? Who's he think he is? No, he

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Speaker 3: knows that he's right. He's not just like giving war

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Speaker 3: In a hard time for flicking him the ball back

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Speaker 3: in the fleef liquor. It's like, you screwed up, dude,

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Speaker 3: we can't have that. He even does it towards the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff. But he's not Josh Allen, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's not superman. He can only do so much. He's

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Speaker 3: the least of their problems, though, oh no.

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Speaker 1: No question. He might be the biggest of their strengths.

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Speaker 2: Now, was Jordan love Hood or did the Steelers just

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Speaker 2: terribly defending that?

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Speaker 1: Terribly?

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Speaker 3: They're way too generous with giving away easy completions. But

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Speaker 3: I do think Love has really progressed because he used

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Speaker 3: to be I was describing him as a big game hunter.

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Speaker 3: You know, we wouldn't take those easy checkdowns, those death

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Speaker 3: by a thousand paper cuts. And he's maturing a great deal. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'll just dump it here and let these guys go

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Speaker 3: after the catch and Packers put up obscene after the

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Speaker 3: catch numbers. I think Love got bailed out on two

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Speaker 3: or three plays, namely that craft you know arm punt

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Speaker 3: that went his way. His guy made a play, but

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Speaker 3: it wasn't a great throw. I thought he played really,

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Speaker 3: really well though. I mean, I came away with that

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Speaker 3: game saying, boy to Steelers a huge problems. But green

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Speaker 3: Bay could win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And finally, Matt, what's going to happen the AFC North?

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Speaker 2: Because at four and three, even as bad as the

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Speaker 2: Steelers are playing, even with that defense being a catastrophe,

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Speaker 2: they still have cushion. And I mean, I find it

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Speaker 2: hard to say they for sure won't win it, although

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Speaker 2: I think Baltimore is going to come on strong.

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Speaker 1: Don't you.

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Speaker 3: I do too. I don't think the Steelers win this

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Speaker 3: week coming up, I I'll reevaluated come Chargers week, But

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Speaker 3: I think you're in the midst of a three game

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Speaker 3: losing streak here and Baltimore winning is massive. I think

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Speaker 3: since he's out of it obviously or close to obviously,

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Speaker 3: the math does not do the Ravens any favors, and

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Speaker 3: they basically can only lose one, maybe two more games.

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Speaker 3: But I think on it's all said and done, they'll

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Speaker 3: be the better team of the Steelers. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I say only see one team, and coming out of

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Speaker 3: the playoffs in this division, I don't see they'll be

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Speaker 3: in a wildcard team and it might come down to

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Speaker 3: like a Week eighteen tiebreaker situation, because I think it's

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Speaker 3: going to be neck and neck, and when the regular

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Speaker 3: season ends, I think we'll all agree that Baltimore is

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Speaker 3: the best team in the division.

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Speaker 1: Well, tom My producer brought up interesting scenario.

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Speaker 2: He's he expects the Ravens and Steelers to both be

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Speaker 2: six and six when they play on December seventh.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'll look at the schedule, but that doesn't

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Speaker 3: shock me one bit, and I definitely think the momentum

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Speaker 3: will be going opposite directions.

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Speaker 1: Here's the craziest thing.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland probably has the best defense in the division, and

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Speaker 2: they have no chance to win it.

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Speaker 3: They have the best unit in the division. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you look at the eight offenses and defenses, their

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Speaker 3: defense is number one, but their offense is just so bad.

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Speaker 3: And I think they're gonna go to Shador.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: That's certainly what's best for business. Matt is always great stuff.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the.

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Speaker 3: Time, all right, but take care.

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Speaker 2: That's the great Matt Williamson, brought to us by shop

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Speaker 2: dot Steelers dot com.

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Speaker 1: Keep it right here on one oh five ninety x