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Speaker 1: Have you ever considered wearing a wet suit to the

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine what I look like in a wetsuit

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Speaker 3: On any of your Lapanta excursions when you guys travel

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Speaker 4: It definitely don't do that. I don't do much. I

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Speaker 2: You don't have to apologize for that. That's yeah, but no, no,

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm in so now they The way that

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Speaker 2: Oh really, that's the only one I'm in. I do

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Speaker 2: my pregame post game there. It does smell a little stille.

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Speaker 1: It's perfectly manicured. How often does it get does it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, basically, does it get scrubbed?

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Speaker 2: is radio in there. I go home and I work

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that sanitary. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: many reasons I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Know from down here and everything. They do it at

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Speaker 2: one getting too far. That's like it takes two days

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Speaker 2: How he's down at the station this morning. He made

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, get out of the first get in

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Speaker 2: The first round, and then maybe you will see me.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get the format change so they have

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet you had yesterday when the Gary Bettman,

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Speaker 2: It's the old why do you not want to.

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Speaker 1: Build to the best best matchups rather than blow the

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Speaker 2: It makes no it still makes no sense to weak. No,

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Speaker 2: That's not that is not a good thing. No, you

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Speaker 4: First round are usually not compelling, and then it builds

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Speaker 4: You know, Marcus Felino said it great today at the

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Speaker 4: And I'm a little fatigued on the topic because this

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Speaker 4: I means, it makes zero sense whatsoever that you play

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Speaker 4: But your right eighty two game regular season should matter.

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Speaker 4: don't understand why the owners who are technically Gary Betman's

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Speaker 2: So anyway, well, so that's where I was where I

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Speaker 1: Do you sense Betman is out on an island here

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Speaker 4: Which is I've always found that to be the most

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Speaker 4: By the way, my favorite thing today when Marcus Felino

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Speaker 4: I mean we always had to disagree on Marcus Johansson too,

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Speaker 4: The shows, you know, like on on on TV when

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Speaker 4: I mean, I die well, I you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's probably going to be a competitor of Fox and

438
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Speaker 4: I you know, I mean that. I mean, I think

439
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Speaker 4: that's one big reason why they're putting stuff on five

440
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Speaker 4: and forty five. This year is kind of a trial

441
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 4: TESTRN that fandles essentially on with them at times. I

442
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 4: think there have been four or five games or before

443
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Speaker 4: the end of the year, and then they're going to

444
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Speaker 4: go streaming and the problem with that, and you know, look,

445
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Speaker 4: from an NHL rights standpoint, this has been an extremely

446
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Speaker 4: successful market with successful ratings, and they and FANDEL has

447
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: paid the Wild a lot of money and rights fees

448
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 4: and things like that. And now when you leave that,

449
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 4: I mean we've seen it with the Twins, right, I mean,

450
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 4: they're the business model just is is much much tougher,

451
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Speaker 4: especially from streaming is you know, fans, it's you know,

452
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Speaker 4: it's you're not making up what you're getting in the

453
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Speaker 4: twenty plus million rights fee from Fandel in subscription fees

454
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Speaker 4: and things like that. Then you've also got to produce

455
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Speaker 4: your games, You've got to sell your ads and things

456
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Speaker 4: like that.

457
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Speaker 2: It's just a it makes it tough.

458
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Speaker 4: And so but you know, if you're the Minnesota Wild

459
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Speaker 4: and you want your product to be seen by the

460
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Speaker 4: most eyes in Minnesota, that is the way to go.

461
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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. But so, but right now,

462
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Speaker 4: I'm not kind of convinced that Fandel will be around

463
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Speaker 4: next year to have the rights.

464
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Speaker 2: To an eight.

465
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Speaker 1: Guy wants to know if you'll have the answer to

466
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Speaker 1: why Gus Buss walked off the ice without telling anybody.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, my theory is that so he did

468
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Speaker 4: he wasn't sick. It sounds like my theory is is

469
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Speaker 4: he had a gear problem that was probably a little

470
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Speaker 4: private that he didn't want to deal with it on

471
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Speaker 4: the ice, but so so because he said it was

472
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Speaker 4: quote under the gear.

473
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Speaker 2: But what was strange?

474
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Speaker 4: And we had a really funny back and forth with

475
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Speaker 4: John Hines today that I'll write about in my insider

476
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Speaker 4: with Joe Smith for probably Monday, I would guess is

477
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Speaker 4: essentially John's reaction to all of a sudden looking up

478
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Speaker 4: as he's working, as he's writing on his on a

479
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Speaker 4: piece of paper, and seeing Gus and then he just

480
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Speaker 4: walks by him, doesn't say anything, hops over the bench,

481
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Speaker 4: hops over another part of the bench.

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Speaker 2: And just leaves and John is like, what the heck's

483
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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, Gus goes in the locker and

485
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Speaker 4: tells while you're in and next thing, they get a

486
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Speaker 4: stoppage while he makes a couple of big saves and

487
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Speaker 4: John turns around and sees Gus just standing there with

488
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Speaker 4: his helmet on and his chin on the knob of

489
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Speaker 4: his stick, like looking at him. So John just opens

490
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Speaker 4: the door and basically says to him like, uh, do

491
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Speaker 4: you want to go back in? And He's like, yeah,

492
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Speaker 4: I'll go back in. Like it was just like even

493
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Speaker 4: John's is like it was the most it was the

494
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Speaker 4: weirdest thing in the world, just everything, and just the

495
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Speaker 4: fact that Gus like nonchalantly less left and thought this

496
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Speaker 4: was like a common thing, you know, like it's just

497
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Speaker 4: the whole thing is just crazy.

498
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Speaker 2: I wasn't at the game.

499
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Speaker 4: I was down in Florida at the gym's meetings, But

500
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Speaker 4: but man, it was funny to watch. And I thought

501
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Speaker 4: he must have been sick again, like he was in

502
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Speaker 4: Denver a couple of weeks ago, especially when Boldie got

503
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Speaker 4: the heck out of Dodge, Like, I didn't know what

504
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Speaker 4: Gus must have been saying. I thought it looked to

505
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Speaker 4: me like Boldie thought like, oh my god, this guy's

506
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Speaker 4: gonna hurl right on me. And but he just left

507
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Speaker 4: and came back. So I guess is he had some

508
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Speaker 4: sort of cup issue or something nobody.

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Speaker 1: Wants to be thrown up on. I think that's universal thought. Uh,

510
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Speaker 1: this one's controversial. Would you ask Russo, when are people

511
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Speaker 1: going to start talking about Quinn Hughes being a defensive liability?

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I do think that that is one

513
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Speaker 4: reason why we're going to see the defense pairs broken

514
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Speaker 4: up tonight. I've been asking about this in the last

515
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Speaker 4: couple of days. I don't think it's that he's a

516
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Speaker 4: defensive liability. I think that he plays so much offense

517
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Speaker 4: that he becomes a defensive liability, which I guess is

518
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Speaker 4: one and the same.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think one issue, and I've been kind of saying

521
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Speaker 4: this is so there's a good given a take with

522
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Speaker 4: this is that tonight they're gonna go with Spurgeon and

523
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Speaker 4: Quinn there, which has been something that I've been asking

524
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Speaker 4: if they should do here in the last couple of days.

525
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Speaker 4: And then they're gonna go with Brodian in favor because

526
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Speaker 4: Brodiyan in favor, by the way, we're really good in

527
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Speaker 4: the playoffs last year. The issue is with the give

528
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Speaker 4: and take is that while Spurgeon is gonna be much

529
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Speaker 4: more defensively responsible with Quinn. And I'll explain what I

530
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Speaker 4: mean by that in a second, in terms of Brock,

531
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Speaker 4: because I'm not really taking a shot at Brock, there

532
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Speaker 4: is a size issue, and I don't think that works

533
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs. So what I think, I think when

534
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Speaker 4: Brock is with Quinn, he gets a little antsy and

535
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Speaker 4: wants to essentially do with what Quinn did. And when

536
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Speaker 4: I was watching that game the other night, and Joe

537
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Speaker 4: Smith actually pointed this out to me, and I saw

538
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Speaker 4: it as well, when that one offensive zone shift on

539
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Speaker 4: the on the one goal against where both Quinn and

540
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Speaker 4: Brock were below the offensive goal line. That's when you

541
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Speaker 4: know there's got to be a change like there, It

542
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Speaker 4: just means like it means that Brock is trying to

543
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Speaker 4: freelance the way that Quinn does and and and not

544
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Speaker 4: the other way around, where you just know Spurge isn't.

545
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Speaker 2: Going to do that.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I just think that you might as well

547
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Speaker 4: try it now. And I asked John this morning about

548
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Speaker 4: experimentation because I also and that's where this even came out,

549
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Speaker 4: because they had an optional today so we didn't see

550
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Speaker 4: the defense pairs, and he just volunteered the fact that

551
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Speaker 4: he was going to change up the deep pairs today.

552
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Speaker 4: But with the with the playoffs locked and loaded, and

553
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Speaker 4: with the positioning essentially locked and loaded, you know, now's

554
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Speaker 4: the time, these last fifteen whatever games to maybe do

555
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: some experimentation. You know, see if different guys work together

556
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Speaker 4: at forward, different guys at defense. And then even if

557
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: you know you start with the same second line as

558
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Speaker 4: like you know, Johansen Poldie and Eric Sanek in the playoffs,

559
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 4: at least you know if Cherisaco can play up there,

560
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Speaker 4: If all of a sudden Brock and Quinn are giving

561
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Speaker 4: up more than they they're scoring, and they have been

562
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Speaker 4: bleeding chances lately, then you know that Spurgeon can play

563
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Speaker 4: with a Quinn. So I think it's just allowing I

564
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Speaker 4: think their position right now is allowing John to just

565
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Speaker 4: try different things. And tonight they're going to take a

566
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Speaker 4: look at this. Who's in the net tonight, Walstead?

567
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Speaker 2: It is Walston. Yeah, I figured it would be.

568
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Speaker 1: On that note, we'll let you go enjoy the rest

569
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Speaker 1: of the evening. We'll talk next week. Thanks you see Dan,

570
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Speaker 1: take care, We'll do it. Russo Radio kind enough to

571
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Speaker 1: join us. We're out today for wild Hockey Guards, he

572
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Speaker 1: reminds me, at about fifteen minutes earlier than usual, so

573
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Speaker 1: about six fifteen or so. A lot of housekeeping in

574
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Speaker 1: the remainder remaining forty five minutes of the program.

575
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Speaker 2: I do want to get to some wool stuff.

576
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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of text coming in on myriad subjects,

577
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: some of them big dance related, and maybe we'll give

578
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Speaker 1: you a big dance update on what's already been kind

579
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: of an intriguing day one when we were trying.

580
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Speaker 2: A final on.

581
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Speaker 1: The Michigan State NDSU game. I don't think we did.

582
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Speaker 2: It's in the books.

583
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: Michigan and tom Izzo running up the score ninety two

584
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Speaker 1: to sixty seven. The Spartans are a three seed, Arkansas

585
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Speaker 1: four seed takes care of a thirteen seed Hawaii ninety

586
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Speaker 1: seven to seventy eight. And I think now we're kind

587
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Speaker 1: of waiting right for the next group of games to begin.

588
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: The first one on the books is North Carolina and

589
00:26:54,440 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: VCU Howard and Michigan to follow shortly thereafter, Wisconsin is out.

590
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: If you miss that, a five seed losing to High.

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 6: Point Paul Ryan and skin defeat.

592
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: We should probably tell that backstory for the first time

593
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: in a while, because a couple of Texters have Askedabo, really, OK, Yeah,

594
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: the Bull Ryan backstory is he loses in the championship game.

595
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Speaker 2: What year would this have been? That was twenty fifteen.

596
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Speaker 3: They had beaten Kentucky with kat that's right, who was undefeated. Yeah,

597
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: this was in Indy, of course, where else would it be.

598
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: They had beaten Kentucky, they advanced to the National Championship Game.

599
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: They have a big lead on Jalil Okafer Tias Jones

600
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Speaker 3: and the Duke Blue Devils and Grayson Allen Little used.

601
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Speaker 3: Grayson Allen comes off the bench to get the Blue

602
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Speaker 3: Devils surging. Duke wins and they do the postgame interview

603
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Speaker 3: with Bow Ryan with Bow Ryan, and Bowl.

604
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Was not shy about suggesting that he wasn't particularly delight

605
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Speaker 1: with the officiating. Correct, exactly right, I mean he will

606
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Speaker 1: call yeah, exactly. So as soon as the interview ends,

607
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Speaker 1: they send it back to Gumble, who then says, what

608
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: you just played, bo Ryan.

609
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Defeat.

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Speaker 1: And the beauty of it was it was fairly apparent

611
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Speaker 1: that Gumbel didn't hear the interview. I'll probably find it,

612
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure we probably should, and I'm sure it

613
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Speaker 1: was like, well, I'll just I got this. I'll go

614
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Speaker 1: with the standard boiler plate under a situation like that,

615
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll go with gracious in defeat when Ryan

616
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Speaker 1: had been anything but in this particular case.

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Speaker 2: So that's the backstory to it. It was. It's a

618
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Speaker 2: lot of fun. I remember it well.

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Speaker 3: My favorite was we had Feinstein on after, you know,

620
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Speaker 3: in those couple of days, because as usual, it's the

621
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Speaker 3: final four into the Masters, and he noticed and he's

622
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: a Duchye anyway, But I don't think this necessarily had

623
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Speaker 3: anything to do with it, but just how he said it,

624
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: He's like and then Greg Gumbel says classy and gracious,

625
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: when in fact he was anything but either of those things.

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Speaker 1: It was too good, it was one of the best.

627
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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's I'll have to find it.

628
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Speaker 2: It's the one of those organic moments.

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of those organic moments is you can't

630
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Speaker 1: possibly choreograph them, you can't schedule them. They're based on

631
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: stuff that you just can't see coming. And again, I

632
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Speaker 1: don't know if gumble ever was asked about it, but

633
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Speaker 1: my assumption is he's got a million people talking to him.

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: He's getting he's looking at some very what what are

635
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Speaker 2: we going to do?

636
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 6: Moment?

637
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: I just said, okay, I got to.

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Speaker 1: Reintroduce who that was. That was bull Ryan. You want it,

639
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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen.

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Speaker 6: Wisconsin on the short end of the sport tonight, our

642
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 6: Tracy Wilson with Wisconsin coach bull Ryant.

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00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: Coach, you fell just short.

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Speaker 7: I know you haven't had much time to really think

645
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 7: about it, but what was the difference down the stretch

646
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 7: there well.

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Speaker 5: I told these guys how proud I was of them,

648
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: and you know, it was just a situation where you

649
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 5: just have to be able to handle all the hands

650
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 5: and the checking. I mean all there was more body

651
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: contact in this game than any game we played all year.

652
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Speaker 5: And I just feel sorry for my guys that all

653
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Speaker 5: of a sudden a game was like that, you know,

654
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 5: and I think they had a they're struggling with that

655
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Speaker 5: a little bit.

656
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Speaker 2: So we missed some opportunities.

657
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Speaker 5: They hit some tough shots, but you know, I just

658
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 5: it's just a shame that it had to be.

659
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: Played that way.

660
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Speaker 7: He told me before the game, how bad you wanted

661
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Speaker 7: this for your team?

662
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: What did you say to them just in the locker

663
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: room over there?

664
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Speaker 5: Well, I still told him how proudly am I've never

665
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Speaker 5: seen a bunch of guys I've coached a long time,

666
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: and that's probably as far as guys coming together. And

667
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: I mean, look at our offensive efficiency.

668
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: That says a.

669
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Speaker 5: Lot about a group of people who are willing to

670
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Speaker 5: share the ball. And I think we set the record

671
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Speaker 5: for it for offensive efficiency. You know, it might not

672
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 5: look that way the last ten possessions out there, but uh,

673
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: there might have been some reasons for that, but I'm

674
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: proud of them that way. And in defensive you know,

675
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: we led the Big ten in defense and fewest turnovers,

676
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 5: fewest fouls until tonight. So you know, there's a lot

677
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 5: of good things when you look at the stats that this.

678
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Speaker 7: Group did, and I'm extremely proud of thanks a coach tremendously.

679
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Speaker 6: Oh Ryan, classy and gracious, indefeat. How about Mike Krzyzewski.

680
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good, it's just the best. It's just

681
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: it's I'll never I'll never get over it. I'll laugh

682
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: every time. I'm glad you put them both together. So

683
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: at least that gives a bit of contents context to

684
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: a history that we all have a tendency to just

685
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: assume that everybody knows all these backstories, including you know,

686
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay, San Antonio, Davey and perhaps every

687
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: once in a while it is good to offer a

688
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: refresher course. And given its big dance time, perfect time

689
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: to go back to bow Ryan.

690
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: Eleven years ago. When was the Bull Ryan?

691
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Because we have it as a sound or someplace. What

692
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: elicited the bow Ryan violences?

693
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: Out of the question, they had lost a game somewhere,

694
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: I thought it was here. No, I don't think so.

695
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: It was like Michigan State or Maryland. They had lost

696
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: to somebody and somebody asked them essentially, how do you

697
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: move on from it?

698
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Or how do you get past it? Is too good?

699
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: Violence is out of the question. Yeah, there was the

700
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: other one.

701
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: Remember where I remember this one being Maryland and the

702
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: Maryland on the road. Maryland head coach Mark Turgen started

703
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: his press conference before in protocol typically if you're going

704
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: to do it at the same spot, which now a

705
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: lot of teams don't do even at the bar now

706
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: they have their own, you know, the road will go

707
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: to the pavilion media room if there's even visiting media.

708
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: That's a whole other thing because a lot of places

709
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: don't have dedicated beat writers that travel like they used to,

710
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: certainly at TV stations. And the Maryland coach had started

711
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: his press conference first, which he was not supposed to do,

712
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: and Bo Ryan just walked in. They just said, we

713
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: got a plane to catch. Guys have class tomorrow morning,

714
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: which is classic. Guys have class. We got to get back,

715
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: and then he kind of gets so he kicks tursion out.

716
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: Tursion is like you serious, it's a protocol and it

717
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: was brilliant. That video has got to be somewhere too.

718
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: He for reasons like these, he was one of my

719
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: favorite coaches because he was capable of all those kinds

720
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: of moments.

721
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: That were just just tickled me. There.

722
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: He was so entertaining in that way. I didn't and

723
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: that didn't necessarily mean I always agreed with him, but

724
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: it just was. It was fun to watch, for sure.

725
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: To remind me, regarding the mention you had of few

726
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: or a fewer reporters showing up for games, there's a

727
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: Johnny athletic nugget we've got to get to that he

728
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: may not even be aware of of him getting savaged

729
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: on national radio for all of the wrong reasons, which

730
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Speaker 1: we'll get to in a minute.

731
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: I do have a don as a society item to

732
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: get to.

733
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Let's get caught up because we went obviously along with

734
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: the RUSSO Radio six one two guy Rights. I'm sitting

735
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: in Bumper to Bumper traffic listening to Bumper to Bumper

736
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: and I think that's pretty neat.

737
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Well, why do you think we named the show that?

738
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why you did it.

739
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: I never knew a lot of people thought it was

740
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: something more elaborate, something a little bit more complicated than that.

741
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Now we keep it very simple on the Bumper to

742
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Bumper program. I don't even remember what the runner up was.

743
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: Might have been savagery on a stick, but we thought

744
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: that was too specific about the State Fair, and the

745
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: State Fair, even though it is always right right around

746
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: the corner, is still a few months off. We'll come

747
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: back with our done as item, get to some other

748
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: attacks a little bit more on Guardzi's favorite professional basketball

749
00:34:54,080 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: team when we return.

750
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: Please.

751
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: This is an important bit of follow up related to

752
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a subject that has been haunting me since we first

753
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: discussed it. I mentioned I was fairly certain I covered

754
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: a men's hockey final four in shall we say, in

755
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: the business, Lake Placid, and I found it nineteen eighty eight,

756
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: and it was the semifinal game.

757
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: We lost.

758
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: First semifinal game Lake Superior six main three, and in

759
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: the in on April first, we we lose to Saint

760
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Lawrence three to two. In the semis we ended up

761
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: also losing the They played consolation games back then, and uh,

762
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: Lake Superior won it in ot over Saint Lawrence.

763
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: But that was the that was the one I recalled.

764
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: I knew I had done it, but I like to

765
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: give some closure to it and a little bit more

766
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: information because people are coming up with other years and

767
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: other dramatic finishes and all that, and uh, that was

768
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: the occasion back just within the first couple of years that.

769
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: I in which I got to town. Meanwhile, this is the.

770
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: Mile.

771
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the activity the trend known as

772
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: coffin lying?

773
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, no, I don't think so. It's apparently becoming

774
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: big in Japan.

775
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Okay, funeral homes and spas has started a new trend

776
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: called coffin lying, or meditating on death inside a coffin?

777
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: What the Hell's going on?

778
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: Out?

779
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: At coffin lounges, customers can pick an open or closed

780
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: casket and spend thirty minutes lying inside for about thirteen

781
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: American dollars.

782
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: Guards here here for Kaufman or no Washburn mccreeb.

783
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: So the beauty of this is you don't have to die,

784
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: but you can lay in a coffin and meditate interesting,

785
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: presumably about death. Some services offer music visuals projected on

786
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: the ceiling and colorfully decorated caskets, all designed to calm

787
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: the nerves while customers are coming to terms.

788
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: With death.

789
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Custom coffin maker Mikako Fuse says meditating in one of

790
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: her designer caskets helps people see that quote death is bright.

791
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: And not so scary.

792
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: What I just read them? Just reading them coffin, lying

793
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: or meditating on death inside of coffin. You have that

794
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that now if you've ever wondered what

795
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: it's like, and you don't want to die to find

796
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: out what it's like, right, because if you if you're

797
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: if you have died, you don't know.

798
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: What it's like. I guess unless you believe in the spirit.

799
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: It just depends, Yeah, what you're into.

800
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: What you're into, that's exactly it is that something that

801
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: would interest you?

802
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: It all.

803
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm coughen lying with that, with that intriguing.

804
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: In all seriousness, I'm trying to think if this is

805
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: something that's going to come to America. I don't want

806
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: to be on record saying that I hate it and

807
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: then in a year I'm endorsing it and trying to

808
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, promo code guard for your first session free.

809
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, so do anything for a buck. I will

810
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: ay three kids, you know, they're sports. There's a lot

811
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: going on i'd I guess I would try it and see,

812
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm not as afraid. There are some people that go

813
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: to a funeral don't even want to look at that coffin, right,

814
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: Like there are some people that are so true weirded

815
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: out by the concept of death and the whole proceeding

816
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: that it would would bother them. I don't think I'm

817
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 3: really one of those people, So I I think I

818
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: could be a little bit more open minded about it,

819
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's necessarily for me. But I'd

820
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: be willing to try it if they came over here.

821
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: I guess that's not something I would have come up

822
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 3: with on my own.

823
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: Are any Do any of these exist in the United States?

824
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: But I don't know. D Line Japan. Yeah, trying to

825
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: do a quick google. What's the term coffin? What coffin

826
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 2: lying is in lying in l y I G.

827
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: That's how it's described in this particular piece, coffin lying

828
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: l y I G.

829
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

830
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of magazine articles or articles

831
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: about the health benefits of of it.

832
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: So the assumption is.

833
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: If you want to go, if you want to line

834
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: one of these, you you will go inside what's called

835
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: a coffin lounge. Yes, first of all, right, and it

836
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: goes from there and they close the coffin, right, I

837
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: mean they have to. They're saying it's up to you.

838
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: You can have an open casket and meditate, you know,

839
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: however you want in that situation, or you can have

840
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: it closed, doesn't matter. Uh six one two guy rights,

841
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here at cafe in the restaurant listening to

842
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: Chaddon Barrerow, eating a Chadden Burrerow sandwich, enjoying the coolie

843
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: ironic ranch with the hotly contestable mustard. And I thought,

844
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty neat, A good call back. Do you remember

845
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: the Barrero sandwich? It was? It was a Paddy melt

846
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: I think was well close. It was a petty melt down. Clever,

847
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: so clever that the place. How long did it stay open?

848
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Two years?

849
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: A couple of years, two years? Actually better than you

850
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: might have thought. It was a good restaurant. I used

851
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: to go there all the time as a young buck

852
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: over to Roseville.

853
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.

854
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to do shows from there, right, Sludge

855
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: and Lake were there almost every night. I'd be back

856
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: in this studio taking it to those guys. Nice stage,

857
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 3: is a nice setup.

858
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: I liked it.

859
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: The best coffin lounges have to be of course in Indianapolis.

860
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Of course, according to doctor Phil, they probably have a

861
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: good for you interesting not far off. Somebody is saying

862
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: from a sensory deprivation.

863
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: Tank, that's maybe, Is that right? Yeah, I've never done

864
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: that either. Yeah, it's very possible that. I don't know.

865
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: People are encouraged to reflect on memories about the people

866
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: they love. Yeah that what's wrong with that, and what

867
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: it might feel like is say goodbye to them. M

868
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: You can listen to soft music or sit in total silence. Yeah,

869
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm doing a lot of diligence here.

870
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: At least one individual has taken offense to my characterization

871
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: of the Bo Ryan interview. I think your auntie was

872
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: cons is clouding your vision of that interview. Bo was

873
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: very gracious of his players and classy for not be

874
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Speaker 1: rating the officials.

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Speaker 2: He had every right to do, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Ryan, classy and gracious skin defeat.

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Speaker 3: You also need to watch the video. Well, I would

878
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: say you don't need to. I would say the words themselves.

879
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: If you're being honest, is it's actually more chicken bleep

880
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: because instead of just coming out and saying the officials

881
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: screwed us. We suddenly had to play in a style

882
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: that we hadn't had to play all year because of

883
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: all their hands and all their grabbing. He tried to

884
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: do it the subtle way, which to me is the

885
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: more weasily way. So if you're reading or listening to

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00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: that interview, even if you weren't watching it, and your

887
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: conclusion is, my god, he couldn't have been classier about

888
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: not the players, but about the.

889
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Way the game ensued and what the other team was doing.

890
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: Then you're obviously grew up in fond A Lac and

891
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: there's no other explanation near the dells or near the dells. Yeah,

892
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man. And I don't even think

893
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: bo Ryan would disagree with that. Well, actually he probably would,

894
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: because bow Ryan was all those guys who he could

895
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: he could deny stuff right in front of you that

896
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: was very obvious. That was that was one of the

897
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of how.

898
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: He was wired.

899
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: Well, deny it all, deny everything, you know, so great coach,

900
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: but great coach, great coach. You can come out of

901
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: that saying that he made it all about his team.

902
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: How valiantly they tried and credit to the other team

903
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: until the last ten member winning.

904
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Exactly for the last ten possessions. You can't really make

905
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: that stuff up.

906
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: Top of the hour break final segment of the show

907
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: today because we're out early for more Minnesota Wild action

908
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: against the Chicago Blackhawks back in just a minute.

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00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: Show Rap is brought to you by American Pressure commercial

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00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,600
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00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: It's the bumper to bumper show rap.

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00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Maybe this is what you were doing when I turned

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Speaker 1: on the radio a few minutes ago, right seven to

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Speaker 1: six y three.

915
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Guy, But you guys really should.

916
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Do a series of segments explaining all of your sounders

917
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: so your younger audience has the backstory. Did you see

918
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: the game easily correctable, frustrating or the one you just played?

919
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on here? The next generation

920
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: needs this. It's so rich. We have done that occasionally.

921
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Maybe we, you know, do it in a more concentrated

922
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: fashion where we take a half hour or an hour

923
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: and we say, all right, let's run through about ten

924
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: of them. The problem with that is unless all the

925
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: people who have the same questions about each of them,

926
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: it happened to be listing at that moment. Right, you

927
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: still run into the same problem eventually, but you can't

928
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: if you explain every bit every time, it kind of

929
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: loses its impact.

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00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Exactly right. I've got a great option for when we

931
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: can do that. Yes, how about best of July twelfth,

932
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: when we're right in the middle of the abyss.

933
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: Not a bad thought.

934
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: Maybe every day we waste it at a time of

935
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: year where there's already built in stuff exactly Hopefully people

936
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Speaker 1: can hang on with us until then and not knowing

937
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: what bo Ryan, classy and gracious in defeat.

938
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: But then every day we could do.

939
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: Do it at like four point thirty every day for

940
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: a week behind the bit daily and at the start

941
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: of the show, remind people this is what we're going

942
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: to do. In ninety minutes, Which bit do you need explained?

943
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: And we'll go through a couple of them. So, because

944
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: the audience is always changing, like you said, so every day,

945
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: different people can tell us which ones they need some explanation.

946
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: Animals do our best to do it.

947
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: Very good idea July twelfth, write it down, bow Ryan writes,

948
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Oldenbila Guy was a legendary red ass. Absolutely rolled the

949
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Speaker 1: Zebras from start to finish.

950
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Speaker 2: Every night.

951
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: My buddies and I called him Crying bow Ryan, as

952
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: you say, a really good coach, but in all coaches

953
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: ride officials. He certainly I don't think, took a back

954
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: seat in that regard.

955
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: And you know the guards the connection to bo Ryan,

956
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: do you not. We've talked about it. I think, well,

957
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: I think I do, but it's been a while. And

958
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: it's not because Greg is my uncle. He has one

959
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: a yeah, I have two. But my uncle Rich who

960
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: we had on the show when he met President Obama

961
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: into Coorra Iowa was a high school basketball coach, high

962
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: school athletic director, longtime golf coach. He worked the Platteville

963
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: camps when bow Ryan was at Platteville for years and

964
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: years and the years. So at the nineteen ninety seven

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00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: Final four Bow Ryan, we are in bow Ryan's hotel

966
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: room where else Indy at the Hyatt, the one right downtown,

967
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 3: the big one, and my dad is selling bow Ryan

968
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 3: Final four ticket. My uncle would always hang with them

969
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: and Greg Gard and all those guys because they were

970
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: D three coaches.

971
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: They were just kicking it around.

972
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my dad because he had a couple of

973
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: extras sold him to bow for whatever he paid for

974
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: me didn't try to, you know, platt bul money. Yeah,

975
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: and the rest is history. So like, I always liked

976
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: those guys. But and I went to his camp in

977
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: Plattvill when I was little Guardsy. It's just it's so

978
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: funny that then he is a game away from a

979
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: national champion. But that's the Guardsy connection. Not that anybody

980
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: cares or asked.

981
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Dan.

982
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: My wife did the design work on cafe and the restaurant.

983
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: Let me know when you're going to reboot it. She

984
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: needs to give it another shot. I'm guessing she's been

985
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: haunted by whatever mistakes she made the first time and

986
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Speaker 1: wants to correct them. Not that I'm blaming her for

987
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: the demise of the restaurant had really nothing to do

988
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Speaker 1: with the core, which is actually it was pretty good.

989
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: Who was ripping Johnny?

990
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: Somebody was just texting, oh the Johnny final couple of minutes.

991
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm listening because I'm weird to.

992
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: On Serious XM, the NBA channel, they have postgame show

993
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: stuff on all the games, you know, every night, where

994
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: they go through each game and they have sound from

995
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: each game. Okay, and I happen to be listening to

996
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: it after this would have been a Wolve's loss recently.

997
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: And they're playing a back and forth between Finchy and

998
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Athletic, and it's about three or four minutes long,

999
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: and it's Johnny asking three, maybe four consecutive questions, and

1000
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Speaker 1: the host of the show, whose name escapes me, just

1001
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: went off, why isn't anybody.

1002
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: Else asking a question? Who is this guy? Why is

1003
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: he monopolizing all the time? What was a road game?

1004
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: And of course the comeback is are you paying attention

1005
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: to the journalistic landscape these days? A lot of times

1006
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: the visiting team does not have a bunch of reporters

1007
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: because no one wants to spend the money on it anymore,

1008
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: start to mun or any place else.

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00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: So the idea that.

1010
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have some alertness to the fact that, well,

1011
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Johnny may have been looking around anybody else wanted to

1012
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: ask quet there nobody else to ask a question, that's

1013
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: the answer.

1014
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: But nevertheless he got savaged.

1015
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: He also got savage for one of the questions themselves,

1016
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Speaker 1: and I can't remember.

1017
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Speaker 2: What it was.

1018
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: The guy was just all I'm surprised Johnny didn't hear

1019
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: about it. He probably did.

1020
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 3: It's very possible, as we know, Johnny, as we learned

1021
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: last week talking about Hopkins in Minnetonka.

1022
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: Oh, he holds a grutch. Lastly, Keiffin should consider opening

1023
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: Championship Lions where Minnesota fans could go and lay down

1024
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: and meditate on what it would feel like to win

1025
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: the championship. That's pure six five to one guy, that's outstanding. Yeah,

1026
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: a good callback work, that's outstanding. Larry Mondello guy writes,

1027
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Gumble should have said bo Ryan classically passive aggressive in defeat,

1028
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: which is exactly right.

1029
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: Thank you to Russo Radio.

1030
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: We're out early today because where he is, the Minnesota

1031
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: Wild are taking on the Blackhawks yet again. That is

1032
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: coming up. Tomorrow is a ben Gestling day. Tomorrow is

1033
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Speaker 1: a Lavelle e Neil the third day as well, and

1034
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: who knows what else more some more big dance listenings.

1035
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk to you tomorrow. Three Wild Hockey

1036
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: right around the corner. Don't go away. Violence is out

1037
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: of a question.

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Speaker 6: O Ryan, classy and gracious skin defeat