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It is a Monday, lots of stuff 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: going on around the league, a lot of stuff going on. 13 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: First of all, congrats on the victory. Thanks, Yeah, hard 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: game for sure. 15 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: So how about how about what did you think I 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: was thinking about this? 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: Driving in? What did you think about? If anything? 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Because I had I had a very close friend of 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: mine who is closely associated with CEEU, who I mean 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: very much wants that football program to succeed, as do I. 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: They call me today. 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: And brought up the fact that coach Prime was in 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Las Vegas on Sunday watching Shador What what did you 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: think about that? 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: And then I'll tell you what I thought, Like I didn't. 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of people ask me about this. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I didn't particularly have an opinion on it. 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: If it doesn't interfere with what you're doing in terms 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: of getting your team ready to play, or interfere with 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: a game, or interfere with those kinds of things. I 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: don't particularly see a problem necessarily with a coach going 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: to see his son, you know, in his first professional 33 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: football game. It's not like the flight to Las Vegas 34 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: is prohibitively long, you know, it's just kind of right there. 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: I mean, is there some aspect of this that I'm missing? 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: I would say this, and this is and I have 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: been you know, I mean since coach Prime got here. 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I've been. 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Completely honest in terms of what I've seen, what I like, 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: what I don't like. I've said sometimes, you know, people 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: get been out of shape because some people just have 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: a stylistically different way of doing things. And certainly some 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: of the stuff that has gone on up there would 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: be different, you know, in terms of what. 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I would have done. But that that does you Wayne 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: in or personal friends he'd have been in for sure. 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: No, I get I mean all that I in the 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: world of college football now, I mean all that I 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: I sort of get. 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: Here's the deal, though, I get it. 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: As a father, you'd want to go see your son's 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: first start in the NFL. 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: But Sunday is the Sunday's. 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Sunday's the day where you really get the lion's share 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: of your prep for next week done. And whether or 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: not you are directly involved in any of this as 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: the head coach, and I'm not sure. 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he is. 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: He oversees the program, but I'm not sure he's directly 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: involved in you know, the offense, defense, and special teams. 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: But I did I just the optics. 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think it sends the sends a 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: great message to your team, that's all. I'm not not 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: a in a hilt to Diane for me, But when 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: when he called me, and I was like, you know, 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: I thought that yesterday when I saw a shot of 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: coach Prime in the box, and I'm thinking, wait, today's Sunday, right, 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: and that's the day where you start really the lion's 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: share of your prep for your game next week. 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: Hey, I mean from my perspective, I guess you sort 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: of know or at least you know that his offensive 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: and defensive coordinator do most of hashtag all of that work. 73 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: As far as that kind of stuff goes. 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: I don't. 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. I aired on this the other Yeah, 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: I was just kind of like, I don't, I don't. 77 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,559 Speaker 3: But then I don't have the attachment to see you. You 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: you obviously haven't attachment to see you. You went there, 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: you played there, all that kind of I don't have 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: the attachment. I kind of looked at it as you know, 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: it's a dad going to view his son. He'll be back, 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, this is one Now, this would be different 83 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: if he goes to watch every game, then I'd start 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: to have a problem. 85 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: It's it's not even it's it's a hard point to 86 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: argue against what you just said. I mean, it's your 87 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: son's first start in the NFL. So I think, you 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: know a lot of people would completely understand who what 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: dad would want to be there to see his son 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: start for the first time. 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean I get that for sure. With the other 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: side of it, yeah, you have you have a. 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: You know, there's a responsibility also that you you at 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: least have to think about. And again, I I don't 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: want to be you know, I don't want to be 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: the guy that says, you know, this is a hill 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: for me to die and it's not. I'm just telling 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: you it did. I mean when I saw it, I 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: thought about it and and just wondered and listen, probably 100 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: watching that game Saturday night, which I had a chance 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: to watch the entire game. You know that maybe that 102 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: played a part in Yeah, you know, it's just it's 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: been a tough year. I I admire him in this respect. 104 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: I think he's he's I mean, to battle through what 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: he's had to battle through from a physical standpoint, from 106 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: a health standpoint, I don't I mean, I don't. I 107 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: don't know that there'd be a lot of people that 108 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: would be able to do that and still do what 109 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: he's done. So I admire him in that regard. I just, 110 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, I just want that program to be the 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: best it can be. 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: I think, I think that is the thing. And you 113 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: well know, this is a head coach. 114 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: You're not just daddy to one guy, your daddy to 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: you know, ninety guys on that you know, on that 116 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: football team as well. 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if there was any you know, I mean. 118 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: If it were me in that position, and I tried 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: to think about this after somebody, because I have thought 120 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: of it, I didn't give it a second thought. 121 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: Really. 122 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: I was like, I just kind of expected him to 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: go because it was you know, shad Or and they 124 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: have that relationship of ant. But I had done And 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: then my first thought was, you know what if I 126 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: were coaching that, that's the first thing I'd do with 127 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: my guys. Hey, guys, my son's played you guys, mind 128 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: if I dip out for a couple hours on Sunday 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: and I'll you know, I'll put the time in. I 130 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: would talk to my team about that and it would 131 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: be a team decision. And maybe he did more than 132 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, a me decision. Yeah, I mean that he 133 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: did that, but I don't either, but I don't. I 134 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: don't know that he didn't. And and one other thing too. 135 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: Normally I wouldn't do this, but we uh. I was 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: involved in a game over the weekend and had a 137 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: chance to see uh. And if you're a high school 138 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: football fan, you you should be aware of the name 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: Torre Davis. He's a wide receiver, slash corner slash safety 140 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: athlete for Fairview High School. 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: He he's six close to six'. 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: FOUR i would guess one ninety five unbelievable athletic ability 143 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: speed ball. Catching The university Of texas has offered him other. 144 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Schools he had committed TO ucla prior to the coach being, 145 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: fired then he de. 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Committed and it's my understanding talking to. 147 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: Coaches up at that program At, fairview The university Of 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: colorado is not offered Now. FAIRVIEW i, mean, LISTEN i 149 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Hope i'm. WRONG i Mean fairview is In. Bolder they're In, 150 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: bolder you, Know Fairview High school is In bolder and 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: The university Of colorado is In bolder as. 152 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: Well so this kid is his talented. 153 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: Size, speed athletic, ability catching, ability jumping ability as Anybody 154 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: i've seen in the state in a long. Time when 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 2: you put everything together in his package. 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: And they need to get on that off THIS i, 157 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: no that's a good stelfbox to be. On we talk 158 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: about high school ball here from AND i that's one 159 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: of the FRUSTRATIONS i. HAD i think moving up here 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: from The, south where high school football is a religion down, 161 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: there AND i cannot stress that. Enough it sounds Like 162 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: i'm being, hyperbolic But i'm not uh to come up 163 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: here and just, see you, KNOW i, mean there are 164 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: there's some great kids playing In. Colorado they slip out 165 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: of the state because it feels like sometimes that the 166 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: university system doesn't doesn't want to. Me you had a, 167 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: kid gunner go down, there but, NO i get, it 168 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: you're going down there To. Texas but at the same, 169 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: TIME i, mean how Did colorado could have used the tight? 170 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: End, YEAH i think. 171 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: THIS i think that the last handful of, Years i've 172 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: been disappointed IN uh in state schools plural and the 173 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: job that they've they've done trying to recruit our. Kids 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot better football and because of the size 175 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: of the state and the lack of people in the, 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: state it didn't get a lot of national. Attention BUT 177 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: i can tell you, this And i've done this for a. 178 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Minute there's a lot of really good football players and 179 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: a lot of good coaches and teams that could stack 180 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: up against a number of out of state. Schools and 181 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: for the life of, me why other state universities can 182 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:27,359 Speaker 2: slip in and see the talent here and state universities evidently. 183 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: DON'T i have no earthly idea why that. 184 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: Happens it's it's fascinating to me BECAUSE i you, KNOW 185 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: i was down WHEN i was in high. SCHOOL i 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: was At arkansas and we had the OPPOSITE i, mean 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: the secure the border was like the thing you had 188 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: to should be the thing here. Too you had to 189 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: secure THE i, Mean arkansas wasn't going to be competitive 190 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: in THE sec let. ALONE i, mean but let alone 191 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: be competitive if you didn't secure the. Borders and it 192 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: just feels, like you, know you've Got colorado AND ccu 193 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: teams that they're putting money in their. Programs now you're 194 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: putting money in, there and it feels to me like 195 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: if you want to be, competitive that starts at, All 196 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: it starts with security your own. 197 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: Boards, YEAH i, AGREE i do, agree BUT i. 198 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: DON'T i mean When bill, McCartney and again this goes 199 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: back into the Well bill started in the early. 200 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: To mid, eighties but that was one of the things 201 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to. 202 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: Do he wanted to keep in state kids at, home 203 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: and he made a concerted effort to do that AND 204 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: i think did a pretty dog on good job of. 205 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: It there's not. Enough there's not. ENOUGH i, mean you 206 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: have to recruit from outside the state because there's not. 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: Enough there's not enough athletes and Certainly division one quality 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: athletes that you can build a sustainable winning program with. 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: Here but there are you, know every single year on, 210 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: average over the last twenty, years this state has produced on, 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: average it's been Fourteen Division one football players per year. Average, 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: now there have been some where it's been, twenty somewhere it's, 213 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: eleven but an average of it's actually fourteen point like, 214 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: eight so almost. Fifteen, well If i'm at you, know 215 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: one of these two, Schools i'm Gonna i'm going to 216 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: try to get seven or eight of those fifteen kids 217 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: because you have you have a sense of pride growing 218 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: up here and playing in. State, yeah AND i just, 219 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: again it's one of the aspects of football here THAT 220 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: i just haven't been able to figure out over over 221 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: a long period of. 222 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: Time, yeah it's it's baffled me Since i've sort of been. 223 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: Here it's one of those things Where i'm, like if 224 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: you want to, compete that's that's square. One you got 225 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: to you, know if you got you know, What, however 226 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: many four and five stars you've, Got, okay one of 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: them gets out of state because they want to go you, 228 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: know they are not from here, originally or they want 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: to go To stanford and get the education or you. 230 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Know that kind of. 231 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: Stuff but the rest of them you've got to Find 232 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: you've got to have a way to keep those guys. 233 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: Home you got to have hey continue to build the, 234 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 3: tradition continue the, tradition whatever the case, made are you 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: as something's has certainly baffled, me AND i always enjoy 236 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: get a chance to talk about that kind of, Stuff 237 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: And i'm going to talk about that as much on 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: these AIRWAVES i think is uh AS i would personally 239 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: like a lot of stuff going around around the. League right, 240 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: now we have h as kind of a firing and 241 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: ANY mani Black monday as it. Were Chip, kelly the 242 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: highest paid offensive coordinator in THE, nfl was fired by 243 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: The raiders last. Night Shane, bowen the defensive coordinator for 244 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: The New York, giants was let go today his interim 245 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: replacement of Ass Joseph. Protege interestingly, enough just say In 246 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: New york you may want to read up On Vess 247 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: joseph as far as as far as that kind of stuff. 248 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: Goes anybody else that you first of are you surprised 249 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: by either? MOVE i don't think we're particularly. Surprised do 250 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: you think there's is there any others that you were 251 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: kind of surprised haven't happened? 252 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: YET i, WOULD i, mean let me speak to The raiders. 253 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: SITUATION i have BEEN i don't really, care But i've 254 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: been shocked of how bad they've been on an. OFFENSE i, 255 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: MEAN i really, thought With Chip kelly and his, resume 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: you look at what he accomplished when he was At Ohio. 257 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: State now, YOU i, mean you may have better players 258 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: At Ohio state than you do In Las, vegas to 259 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: tell you. 260 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: The, Truth but NOW i Just i've been just struck. 261 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: By And i'll tell you. 262 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: Something he's always, been to, me a good run game. 263 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: Coach when he was AT, ucla they could run. It 264 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: when he was At, oregon they could run. It he 265 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: was the coordinator OF, ucla is the head coach At. 266 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: Oregon when he was At Ohio. State it was a 267 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: run first kind of kind of. Deal but they, CAN'T 268 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: i mean they. Can't they and they took a running 269 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: back really high in the first round In ashton genty 270 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: and they can't run. 271 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: It one of the complaints Amongst raiders fans right now 272 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: is that their offensive line coach Is Pete carroll's son 273 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: and has not appeared to have been up to the 274 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: task thus. Far he was the only one pretty much 275 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: not let go on that. Offense in, Fact Greg olsen's 276 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: back for a third state AS oca The. Raiders it 277 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: was Like Greg, olsen you, know, yeah The chip kind 278 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: of thing's funny Because, CHIP i mean that offense when 279 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: he was, first when he was running it What delaware 280 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: and then he's running At oregon started with the fly. 281 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: SWEEP i mean everything started with the fly. Sweep and he. 282 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: Was doing that even out TO ucla and now all 283 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: of a, sudden you, know now that's not even a 284 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: part of. 285 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: That and it's just weird to. 286 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: Me why did you go get mostered if he wasn't 287 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: going to be the fly sweep, guy and then get 288 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: chanty going. Downhill it's like they went out and got 289 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: people that didn't match for what they ended up trying to, 290 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 3: do which was not very. 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: Good, ANYWAY i thought genty would be much better than he, 292 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: is and he looks like a, guy and AGAIN i 293 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: loved him At Boise and maybe it's going to take 294 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: a complete overhaul of the offensive line and the. Scheme 295 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: AND i do, believe you, know players that are put 296 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: in a scheme that is not conducive to their talent 297 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: might now look like they're very. 298 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Good this kid's got. 299 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Really good, Talent BUT i mean he has AND i 300 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: haven't watched every single. Play i'm not going to force 301 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: myself into that. Misery but the games That i've, seen 302 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: AND i have seen some tape on, them just from 303 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: a schematic, standpoint he doesn't look like he's comfortable and 304 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: he tries to basically run over everybody he. Sees he 305 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: reminds me in his rookie season a little bit of 306 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: The broncos draft choice who is now In. 307 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: Dallas that's what i'd, Say uh, Yeah Javonte. 308 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Williams he reminds me a little bit of that where, 309 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: listen you're gonna have to modify. US i used to 310 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: say In javonte's rookie, year as hard as that joker, 311 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: ran you're gonna need to modify your running style a little. 312 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Bit but WHEN i See Ashton genty the. 313 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Times That i've seen, him that's how he runs. 314 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: WELL i mean that worked for him in college when 315 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: you're running over future investment bankers and you know and whatever. 316 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: Else but that's not gonna work in THE, nfl where everybody, 317 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: know you, know as an all world. Athlete it's kind 318 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: of the same COMPLAINT i have With scatabo, too and 319 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: he's a little more undersized than. 320 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: That but the way that you, run you, know seeking out, Contact, 321 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: like first of, all it's going to road your. Career 322 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna wear your body's, RIGHT i already saw. 323 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: That but second of, all you can't run over everybody 324 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: in THE nfl the way you run over people in. 325 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: College like you. Can't you got to learn. 326 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: To be, patient let the block and set up and 327 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: get behind that and find your. 328 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Space just just seeking out. 329 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: The nearest dude and put your shoulder into him is 330 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: a bad way to play. 331 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Ball, yeah it's it's. 332 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: NOT i, mean we've just seen too many times over 333 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: the course of a lot of. YEARS nfl running backs 334 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: don't stay. Healthy they have to run in a judicious. 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Manner you have to pick and choose when you're gonna 336 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: take somebody. 337 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: On it has to be a critical time of the. 338 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: Game and you can't go looking for guys that you're 339 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: trying to run between their eyes with the biggest part 340 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: of your. Body, so, yeah interesting to see The giants. 341 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: Thing no surprise there because you know they The giants 342 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: defense for, really from a personnel, standpoint you look at That, 343 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: giants especially the time on, PAPER i, mean who you 344 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: would think, Like, okay these guys are going to be a, problem, 345 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: right but. 346 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: It just it just Has they couldn't stop anybody late 347 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: game to save their lives. Either that's not just The 348 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: broncos with the. Combat you look at every game they, 349 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: year they just. 350 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: Look at another one five games or, SIX i can't 351 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: remember which one that they've had leads in the fourth 352 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: quarter and. 353 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: Lost, yeah And i'm just blown. It and THAT'S i 354 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: think that's what. Ultimately did you Know Shane bowen IN 355 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: i mentioned The Vince joseph protege thing Because i've had 356 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: several people tell me that The New York giants are 357 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: heavily interested in the idea Of Vance. Joseph they're they're 358 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: looking At Chris shula from from The rams ye looking 359 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 3: at uh and letting doing some background work On vance. 360 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: Here what what would he bring with, him you, know 361 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: if he were to be the guy and come here 362 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: in terms of the, offense because that's really what everybody cares. 363 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: About what's who's gonna be the uh you know The 364 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: jackson dart mentor you know A dvance. Came you got 365 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: an ad Named davis web right here on this staff 366 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: who played quarterback for The New York giants who played 367 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: Under Brian dable In, Buffalo New york would know the. 368 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: Terminology i'm Just i'm not. Saying i'm just putting it out. 369 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: There, YEAH i had not heard, that but that that 370 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: would make sense to. 371 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: ME i do Think vance he's gonna have to do 372 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: better Than we had a great week of practice with 373 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: The New york. Media but, uh and he. 374 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: WILL i mean that that was his first it was 375 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: his first opportunity to jump in front of a bank of. 376 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Microphones and, uh it's for guys that are not used to. 377 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: THAT i think it's it can be for guys that. 378 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: Are used to. 379 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: It it could be challenging based on whatever questions you. Get 380 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: BUT i Think vance has done a terrific job this. 381 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: YEAR i think he's, humble, uh obviously hard. WORKER i 382 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: WOULD i would be pleasantly surprised If vance. DOESN'T i, 383 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: MEAN i want what's good for, him But i'd be 384 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: pleasantly surprised if he doesn't get an. 385 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: Offer if he if he doesn't a, shot if he doesn't. 386 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: Go, SOMEWHERE i think it'll be because he felt it 387 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 2: was not the right either money or opportunity or he 388 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: didn't have the right. QUARTERBACK i, mean all the pieces 389 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: maybe not in, place BECAUSE i think you have to 390 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: be more certain in your second, opportunity because you you 391 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: got to capitalize on that your first. One, hey, everybody 392 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: everybody who gets a first opportunity to be AN nfl 393 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: head coach is, like, yep whatever you, Got i'm, good 394 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: let's get to. Work but your second, one when when 395 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: the first one didn't, work you got to be intentional With, 396 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: HEY i need a few things. 397 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: HERE i know WHAT i was missing the last. Time 398 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: you learn From, yeah you learn acause. 399 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: That is the. Thing you. 400 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: Know you get AN nfl, offer it's AN nfl head coaching. 401 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: JOB i was only thirty two of. THESE i got a, 402 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: shot and then. 403 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: You get into, it you, realize oh my, GOODNESS i 404 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: don't have a. 405 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: QUARTERBACK i got an owner doesn't, care or, worse does 406 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: care for the wrong. Reasons you, know you get those 407 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: kinds of. Things so we're off and rolling here On Koe, 408 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: Sports Dave, Logan benjamin All. 409 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: Bright we'll be back after. 410 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: This go out to THE ka comes for the, hotline, 411 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: though and bring on our. Guy ian Rapaport Ian rapport 412 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: is powered By. 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Buddy what's going? 415 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: On? 416 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: Guys how are? 417 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: You We're we're doing. 418 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: Good we were just sitting here talking about some of 419 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: the moves that have been made in the assistant coaching 420 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: ranks in THE nfl One New york and one of 421 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: course In Las. 422 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 4: Vegas a little bit of a little bit of a 423 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: busy couple of. 424 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: Weeks gosh, right it really. 425 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: Has so WHAT i want to ask, is just as 426 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: we sit here today And Vance joseph is the is 427 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: obviously the defensive coordinator here and has had a terrific 428 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: year In. DENVER i, mean is he one of the 429 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: names you're, hearing like one of the primary names you 430 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: would hear that in the next, cycle would get get 431 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: an interview or? 432 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Two? 433 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: YEAH i mean, NO i would, say IF i had 434 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: to guess right, now based, well and, look we'll see 435 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: how many jobs are opening all. That my guess is 436 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: he gets a request from every, Place LIKE i think 437 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 4: that's the kind of candidate he. Is, now you, know 438 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: who knows who's going to get what? Job that's that's. 439 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: Hard sometimes that's. Fit sometimes you, know there's a lot 440 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: of things up in the. Air but my guess is 441 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: he gets probably all or most of the. REQUESTS i, 442 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: mean that's that's kind of where he's. At like if 443 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 4: you were to say to, me, like who are the 444 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: top coordinators this, year he's for sure in the top 445 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: five and probably in the top. Three SO i, don't you, 446 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: know we'll see how long he's In. Denver but these 447 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: are great problems to, have they really. Are. 448 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah it's better to have that THAN i guess 449 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: the opposite. Issue as we look AT. 450 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 4: Uh which as we talked, about some other teams, have, 451 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 4: yeah very. 452 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Much so look at. 453 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: It look at The, RAIDERS uh leading, Ship kelly go 454 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: highest paid offensive coordinator didn't even last a full. 455 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: Year Is Pete carroll may be one and done there In? 456 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: Vegas or is this about retooling that offense and give 457 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: it another? 458 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: Shot, NO i. 459 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: Would say this based on the. Situation they fired two. 460 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: Coordinators they're one of the worst teams in THE. Nfl 461 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: they have plenty of offensive dysfunction and general. Dysfunction it's. 462 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: Possible it's all. POSSIBLE i don't know whether the season 463 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: is going to. Go Maybe Greg, olsen you, know in 464 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: his third stint as offensive coordinator interim offensive, coordinator maybe 465 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 4: it clicks and maybe they start winning some games and 466 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: it all looks better IF i mean they you, know 467 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: lost at home to one of the worst teams in 468 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: THE nfl and look terrible doing, It like that's that's 469 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: not what you had in. Mind that's not how you make. 470 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: Progress so you, know we'll, see BUT i would not 471 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: say it is going, well AND i would think everything 472 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: is on the table for The. 473 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: Raiders so ian at this, point if if you were 474 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: to list your top maybe top, three, four four or 475 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: Five coach of The year, candidates what would that list look? 476 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 4: Like, okay SO i would, say you, Know Shane steiken 477 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: would probably be on the. LIST i would, say let 478 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 4: me see who. Else, Either Sean payton would probably be 479 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: on the. List you, Know Kyle shanahan would be another. 480 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: One just given the injuries they've, had certainly that would 481 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: that would make a lot of. Sense, YEAH i Think 482 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: Mike rabel would probably be on the. List To coach 483 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: The year is so hard because it's really like coach 484 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 4: of the best job done versus the Expectations, yeah that's 485 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: WHY i would Say Sam stikeen because it's like no 486 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 4: one expected The colts to be. Good but like if 487 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: you told me That broncos would take like a huge step, 488 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: Forward i'd be, like that makes. Sense you. Know if 489 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: you said to Me rabel would get The patriots head 490 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 4: in the right, DIRECTION i would, say, like that makes. 491 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 4: Sense so it's a weird. Award it's kind of like 492 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: Comeback player of The. Year, honestly for for, coaches it's 493 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: like who does the best against the well expectations that 494 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: we previously had for. Them that's why it's such a strange. 495 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: Award, well talking to speaking The, broncos the opponented on 496 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: A sunday night football coming Up, Washington jade And daniels 497 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: back at. 498 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Practice is there any chance that he's playing in that? 499 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: Game Doesn't it doesn't seem so he has not been 500 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: cleared for. Contact and you, know like there are different 501 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: situations we've had this year where, like let's say a 502 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: player you, know exceeds expectations and is ready quicker than 503 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 4: you expected or whatever it. Is you, know when doctors get, 504 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: involved that's when gamesmanship kind of goes out the, window 505 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: and that's when it sort of gets. Real like with 506 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: all That Joe burrow was doing this past week for The, 507 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 4: bengals you, KNOW i AND i was reporting on a 508 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: lot of. It sources kept saying to, me, this he's doing, 509 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: great it's. Awesome he looks Like Joe. Burrow the doctors 510 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: just need to clear. Him and when you hear, that 511 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: you pump the. Brakes same thing With Aaron. Rodgers you, 512 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 4: KNOW i Knew saturday night that he wanted to, play 513 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: he was dying to, play and then he still hadn't received, 514 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: clearance And i'm, like probably not playing, Right and SO 515 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 4: i would say Jayde daniel the same. Thing it's not 516 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: been for. Contact you, know that's generally an indication that 517 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 4: he's probably not. 518 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Playing tylollie and wrap aboard at rap sheet On. 519 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: Twitter last one for, Me, ian you know you were talking, 520 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: about you, know quarterbacks weren't being. 521 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Clear Did Aaron rodgers and all? 522 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: That she Where sanders getting the start again this week 523 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: For cleveland even Though Dylan gabriel was theoretically. Clear is 524 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: this moreed indictment of you know, What gabriel hasn't been 525 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: able to do todate or is this just want to 526 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: get another look at your door or something. 527 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: Else, YEAH i think it's wanting to get another look 528 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: at shootou because like the reality, is with all due 529 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 4: respect to The, browns like it doesn't, matter you, know 530 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: like if you win five games or four games that who, cares, 531 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: right you're gonna get a good draft, Pick you're gonna 532 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 4: be in a position for a, quarterback doesn't. Matter you'd like 533 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: to learn these seasons where you're like it's sort of 534 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: like a lost, season like you'd like to, Learn and 535 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: so Being shador lots them learn as much as. Possible 536 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: they saw two months Of Dylan, gabriel who you, know 537 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: has not proven that he can be a viable long 538 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: time start in THE, nfl which you, know we've learned 539 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: a million times that you, know what could happen six 540 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: years from now who knows right but now right, now 541 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 4: which is. OKAY i think they'd like to know, More 542 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: Like shador has something where you'd like to see him 543 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 4: under the. Lights LIKE i always, remember you, know WHEN 544 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: i Covered Nick saban And, alabama you would always, say 545 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 4: you really don't know anything until the lights come. On 546 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: and shaudor a little bit seems like a player who's 547 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: who who gets better when the lights get, brighter and 548 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 4: SO i think they'd like to see more of, That 549 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: And i'm, Like i'm kind of enjoying, this to be totally. 550 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: Honest the craziness, everyone you, know it reminds me of 551 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: you guys know this one min. Tvo, yeah, NO i 552 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: totally get that audition AND i know for sure they're. 553 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: Right it's been really. Fascinating, yeah that's one. 554 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: Of those one of those great ones that that maybe 555 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 3: keeps fans divided and arguing on the internet for for 556 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: years to covey AND i appreciate. 557 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: It as, Always, Buddy, okay thanks, Guys. 558 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: THANKS Nfl network at Rap sheet On. Twitter, well we. 559 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: Had we had a good friend of, Ours guppy Texted 560 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Ben johnson will be the coach of The. 561 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: Year it's got to be. 562 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: Up, there you know what HE i Actually i'm not 563 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: even sure HOW i actually forgot about. 564 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 4: Him. 565 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that's it's funny. 566 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: Because ian said the thing THAT i always say about 567 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 3: THE Nfl coach of The year, Award it's never goes 568 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: to like the best. Coach it goes to the coach 569 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: who did the most above, expectation. 570 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: Who did the most with the. Least, yeah who did the. 571 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: Most, YEAH i, mean, yeah and so that would Be 572 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: Ben jonson And Shane stike and PROBABLY i mean maybe my, 573 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: frame both depending ON i thought that was a precient choice, 574 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: There BUT. 575 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: I, mean how many games Did New england win last? Year? 576 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: THREE i was like two or, three and it Was 577 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: it's not that different a. ROSTER i, mean for, being 578 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: it's really not that different a. Roster Drake may's taking 579 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of a step forward as they've gone, 580 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: on and they've got a better oc in, there but, 581 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: man IT'S i mean it's it's almost the same. Roster 582 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: and now your top of the league right. NOW i, 583 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: mean you, know tied with The, broncos even went with 584 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: the buy and all. That but, yeah that's that's that 585 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 3: is a Fascinating, Yet Ben johnson's got to be up, 586 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: there and what a great job you've done. There initially 587 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: an investment in the offensive, line and you start to, 588 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: see i, Mean caleb's got some, hits he's got some, 589 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: missues but it looks a. 590 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Lot better when you've got actual protection up. 591 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: Front, YEAH i mean it looks the games That i've 592 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: Seen chicago, play they they look like they've got to 593 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: plan offensively and it looks like he is settled. Down 594 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: that quarterback Uh In Caleb. Williams i've always thought he 595 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: was a talented, guy could run it and throw. 596 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: It and you know, what and they play On. 597 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: THURSDAY i, mean they're gonna mess around and wind up 598 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: winning The north if you're not. 599 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: Careful and how bad does that Make Matt naggy look 600 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: at this, point Because Matt naggi is a name who's 601 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: in the conversation for The Tennessee. Titans, JOB i still 602 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: think it's gonna go To Mike. KAFKA i got a 603 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: little speaking of you and we got a little soda 604 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: pop bet on that. 605 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: One but he's Taking naggy and you're taking cof gu 606 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: And i'm Taking. 607 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: Kafka With Arthur smith being being considered a draw as 608 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: we both think he's going to be in the. Conversation 609 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: so we'll. See but, yeah he's Taking naggy And i'm Taking. 610 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: Kafka we'll see how, that how that winds. Up you, 611 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 3: Know i've had to pay out before stake dinner. Too 612 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: we'll see how that how that, Goes BUT i, mean 613 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 3: how bad does that Make Mike kafka? 614 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: Look with the is? 615 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: IT i, mean was It Justin, Sorry Matt, naggy does 616 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: it Make justin? Field is that A Justin fields? Problem 617 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: is it A Matt naggie? Problem was it bolst In? 618 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: Chicago because you, KNOW i mean it just It last 619 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: year it looked. 620 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: TERRIBLE i honestly THOUGHT i saw enough Of justin fields 621 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: In chicago that win. It when they decided they were 622 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 2: going in a different direction and he went To, PITTSBURGH 623 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: i honestly thought it might work In. Pittsburgh, NOW i 624 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: still think he should have been playing late in the. 625 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: Season but now with the move From pittsburgh To New, 626 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: york it's been an abject. Failure so you, KNOW i don't, 627 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: Know i'm not sure what to make of. That and 628 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: And naggie was a guy that he's, had he, said good, 629 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: success but it's been as a coordinator with a great. 630 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 2: QUARTERBACK i, mean most of his success in the league 631 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: has come With Andy reid as his head coach And 632 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes is his. 633 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Quarterback AND i, mean to, me that's kind of, telling isn't. 634 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: IT I, mean at the end of the, day you go, 635 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: back if you look at What Matt neggie's back with 636 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: kidsas city right, now and the offense is all of 637 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: a sudden taking a step, backwards a little, bit little 638 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: better yesterday. Finally BUT i, mean. 639 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: Most of the most of what they've most of what 640 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: they've done so far has not exactly been you, know. 641 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: Honestly and this is gonna be the weirdest thing to, 642 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: say BECAUSE i campaigned so hard that he was Riding 643 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: Pat mahomes. 644 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: Coatails The Kansas city might be Missing eric the. 645 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: Enemy they might be missing a voice in that room 646 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: that's not afraid to stand up and wolfed, people you, 647 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: know a dog of the coaching. 648 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Staff, Yeah i'd like to see eb get back into 649 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: it at some. Point, YEAH i see. 650 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: He's running backs coach For Ben johnson right. Now speaking of, which, 651 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: Yep so there you. 652 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: Go shaudor has something where you'd like to see him 653 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: under the Lights LIKE i always, remember you, know WHEN 654 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: i Covered Nick saban And, alabama he would always, say 655 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: you really don't know anything until the lights come. On 656 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: And shaudur a little bit seems like a player who 657 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: gets better when the lights get. Brighter and SO i 658 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: think they'd like to see more of. That And i'm, 659 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: Like i'm kind of enjoying this to be totally, honest 660 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 4: the craziness. Everyone you, know it reminds me of you 661 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: guys know this one reminds me Of. 662 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Tvo. Yeah, NO i totally get that. 663 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: Addition AND i know for sure they're. Right it's been really. 664 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: Fascinating SO i remember when that was. 665 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: HAPPENING i have told this to a few. 666 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: Times you, Know i'm down In tampa having knocking back 667 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: some Col one's with The hey THEN nfl head coach 668 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: and we're, like he can't keep getting away with this 669 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: as we're watching it happen live and him continuing to 670 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: get away with, it and, uh, YEAH i lost a 671 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: hundred bucks BECAUSE i bet that coach that he wouldn't 672 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: do it, again and then he did it, again and 673 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: we all know the Iconic Dave Logan Pittsburgh steelers call 674 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: the best just just absolutely it was just an iconic radio, 675 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 3: call an all time radio call By dave on that. 676 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: ONE i love that. 677 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: One but it, was, YEAH i you, know lost a hundred, bucks. 678 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 3: RIGHT i was, like there's no. WAY i was, like 679 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: they got they got to this is a, miracle they 680 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: got to overtime with. This there's no way they pull this. 681 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: Off as he snaps the ball fires off the strike 682 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: like it could not have been any better from a comedic. 683 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Standpoint how WRONG i was in that. 684 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: Moment some might say divine, intervention some MIGHT i was 685 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 5: watching that game With steelers fan back In ohio and 686 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: just how gobsmacked he was That Tim tebow just beat 687 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 5: them in the playoffs was worth it for. 688 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: Me that's. 689 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Awesome it was, just you, know it's one of those 690 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: things that you know where you were win type. 691 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Moments you got a few of, those but that was one. 692 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: That That, YEAH i thought it was. Hilarious AND i 693 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: Think ian's right because The chador argument has reached that 694 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: sort of level of. Crescendo everybody's claiming they were. Right 695 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: the people love, him the people that hate, him the 696 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: people love. 697 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Him, hey you gotta. Win he got a. Touchdown the 698 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: people that hate. Him, ah he threw an interception and 699 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: the defense carried. Him and. 700 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: You, know it's it's just it's fascinating to watch how 701 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: people come down AND i don't know where they draw 702 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: the lines where people have just randomly and arbitrarily draw 703 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: the lines on. 704 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: This with The tibou, thing it was it was a 705 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: little bit. 706 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: Different he had a very specific built in fan base 707 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 3: because he outwardly wore his faith on his sleeve and 708 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: sometimes on his. Eyeliner BUT i don't know whether the 709 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: chador thing comes, down LIKE i don't like like where 710 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: there's not some specific. 711 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Thing there's not. 712 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: Any any identifying characteristic of Shudor sanders that you know 713 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: would have a built in and have a built in enemy. 714 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: Base it doesn't doesn't make any sense to, me you. 715 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean there's just not this, here even here In. 716 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: America there's just not this built In oh he's A nepo, 717 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: kid you, know or anything like. That, LIKE i don't 718 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: know what else you would have to hate. About the 719 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: guy is not the only, gaudy you, know show off kind. 720 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: Of guy out. 721 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: THERE i don't know what specific trait it would. Be 722 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: they would have people lining up to wish his. Demise, 723 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: YEAH i. 724 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 5: THINK i think it really does just boil it down 725 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: to like his cockiness and his belief in, himself WHICH i, 726 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: think you, know to reach certain levels in certain, industries 727 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: especially professional, sports you have to have a crazy amount 728 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 5: of belief in yourself even when everyone else. Doesn't AND 729 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 5: i think his story is something that should resonate with 730 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: people like he wasn't highly recruited out of. College he 731 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 5: went To Jackson. State the only team that wanted them 732 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 5: to play for him was his dad's. Team and then 733 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 5: he goes to see, you has a great year in 734 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: second year, there then gets passed on by everybody in 735 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: the draft until the fifth round and comes out and 736 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 5: gets his first. START i think it was a first 737 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: rookie quarterback for The browns to win their opening start 738 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 5: since like nineteen ninety. 739 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: Five Eric zaier, like how's that? 740 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: Nut? 741 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: Real bilichick was coaching The. 742 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: Browns they Were they aren't even like this iteration of 743 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: The browns has never had a quarterback win their first start. 744 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 5: Ever that's so. Crazy not one quarterbacks they've, Had, yeah 745 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 5: more than there's BEEN us presidents in. History since nineteen ninety, 746 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 5: nine they've had forty six. 747 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: Starters. Unbelievable, yeah and Then stefanski doesn't even give him 748 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: a game ball. Afterwards oh my. God, yeah that dude 749 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: is So. 750 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: Oh in case you guys are, Wondering i'll spill the 751 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 3: tea on this so you guys Understand Kevin stefanski's obsession 752 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: With Dylan. Gabriel Kevin stefanski is represented By Jimmy sexton THE. 753 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: Cia you, Know Dylan gabriel is represented BY, Cia Jimmy. 754 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: Saxton over A. 755 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: Cia Dan or never has a bad thing to say 756 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: About Kevin stefanski Or Dylan. Gabriel you want to bet 757 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: you want to know Where dylan, Uh Diana latsky is repped. 758 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: By it couldn't Be Jimmy sex did over at you 759 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 3: know Who sanders is not repped By Jimmy, Sex Jimmy 760 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: sexton over AT. Cia and it is, like you, know 761 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 3: that's one of those things you start to if you, 762 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: know you know The agent game and you know who 763 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 3: is repp by who and all that kind of, stuff 764 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: you can you can start to see even the commentary 765 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 3: on television where it comes from or where certain insights 766 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: are things that that are said come, from you, know 767 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: as far as that, Goes so just just fascinating to. 768 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: Me you know that the arbitrary battle lines that are, 769 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: ON i know are. Good Buddy, brian who text in 770 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: all the, time doesn't particularly care For shid Or, Sanders 771 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: BUT i don't, know Like i've never actually. ASKED i 772 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: don't Think i've ever Asked brian why specifically he doesn't 773 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: like you, know and some people it is the, gaudy 774 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: it's the, showy it's the in your. Face there are 775 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: some people that just like that trait in other people 776 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: that humility and other, people which is. Fine if you're 777 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: within the side of my voice right, Now i'm probably 778 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: not the guy to be listening. To i'm a little 779 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: bit in your face like. THAT i tend to be 780 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 3: a little a little, showy at least in this format. 781 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: Now in my real Life i'm, not but like like, 782 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 3: this you, KNOW i have it up on the air 783 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: as a bit of a caricature of. MYSELF i think it's, 784 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: fun you. KNOW i think it's fun and funny and 785 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: whatever else you wanna talk. About coming from. Nothing it 786 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: can't come from but you, know much less than WHAT i. 787 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: Came, from. 788 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 3: SO I i you, know for, ME I i sort 789 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: of enjoy that aspect of. IT i definitely am looking 790 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: forward it And i'm looking for this. Game it'd give 791 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: me a chance, to you, know watch The browns, again 792 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 3: which is na which by the, WAY i was literally 793 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: sitting there watching. It tell him this is my, Boy Shelby. 794 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 3: Harris he got the sack right AS i said. 795 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 5: IT i did to SAY i went SO i had 796 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 5: A brendon town and he's a Huge browns. 797 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: Fan SO i went To stony's down On. 798 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 5: Lincoln, yeah because they have like A brown's backer bar, 799 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: Right AND i, said hey Man Shelby harris ninety three 800 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 5: used to play for The. Broncos we Have monkey Was sports Every. 801 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 5: Tuesday what a great guy he? Is next Play? Sack 802 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 5: it was, Right, Yeah AND i will, say like the 803 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 5: fan base, that at least the limited number THAT i 804 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 5: was around On, sunday we're so pumped to See schador 805 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 5: play and. WIN i like that deep deep ball that he. 806 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 5: Threw the haven't seen a pass like that From Dylan 807 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 5: gabriel all. 808 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: Year, well, Dah dylan just doesn't do all. That, anyway 809 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: we'll get it more of. 810 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: That we Got Rick, LEWIS i, think gonna join us 811 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 3: here top of the, Hour Jack corgan gonna join us 812 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: bottom the, hour talk about The rockies getting a new 813 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: slash old. Manager gonna be a lot of. Fun so 814 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: we got a lot of morn store for you here 815 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: ON Ka. 816 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: Sports we're back if this