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Speaker 1: including lining up today's schedule. The lineup says at six

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump promising to do exactly that. What does drain

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Speaker 1: visiting professor who'll be teaching a course called Ready Rue Politics, Drag,

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Speaker 1: the stage name for the transgender Kareem kub Chandani. The

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Speaker 1: where he taught. He taught theater, dance, and performance studies.

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Speaker 1: We'll be teaching the Studies of Gender and Sexuality Program

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Speaker 1: initial CAP. On that that is a program at Harvard

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Speaker 1: who they're going to hire. Welcome to Harvard, Lahore Bagistan

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Speaker 1: drag Queen, also Bright Bart reporting. We're expected to teach

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Speaker 1: a course under the Lahore Vagistan persona. In other words,

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Speaker 1: name is Laharrevagistan. Thank you for paying three three eight

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Speaker 1: in my classroom, we're going to learn about Rue Paul.

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Speaker 1: Also an author of a couple of books. One book Decolonizer,

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Speaker 1: Drag and Ish style accenting gay Indian nightlife. Latest book,

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Speaker 1: Lessons in Drag, a queer manual for academics, artists, and aunties.

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Speaker 1: Now say what you want about the names, say what

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Speaker 1: on Rue Paul at Harvard. I don't care. I only

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Speaker 1: How pointless and what a blank and colossal waste of money.

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Speaker 1: How does this course apply to life? Well? I suppose

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Speaker 1: one can make an argument. If you're in these Studies

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. But if you're paying that much money, if

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Speaker 1: them and I always have thanked them for my college education.

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Speaker 1: But my parents paid for me to sit in music appreciation.

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Speaker 1: I think it was only a couple hundred dollars of

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Speaker 1: apologies for the late notice, but it looks like we

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Speaker 1: So I got bumped by Puffy. Tom Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Heavy Friday said, that's what said. He guess that's a

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Speaker 5: Literally, yeah, yeah, Well it's a shame because CNN is

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Speaker 5: You're truth, you need to grab it.

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Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised. They asked me. Now, I've been on

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Speaker 1: But I guess I won't have that opportunity anyway. Tom,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we know there are some people that pass

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Speaker 5: he would just ask them, well, what are you taking,

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Speaker 5: It is, it is, and it is a scam, but

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Speaker 5: Oh you don't like the fact that we're we're not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially when they're taking so security. You took that

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Speaker 5: five years if I wanted to, and that ain't gonna happen. No,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, we're pissed, We're not happy about it. We're

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Speaker 5: going to point it out. And if you ever get

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Speaker 5: callers that end their call with don't vote Democrat, have

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Speaker 5: a great weekend, Brian.

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Speaker 1: And the add on of late don't vote Rhino and

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Speaker 1: in a nod to my alma mater, in spite of

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Speaker 1: failure when it comes to understanding foreign languages. Admittedly, but

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Speaker 1: The University of Cincinnati four hundred and eighteen dollars per

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Speaker 1: credit hour. You do the math. If you're taking let's

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Speaker 1: is teaching at Harvard. It's the same math. Two and

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Speaker 5: Oh, good morning, Brian. I appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 5: I will try to be quick because I really really

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Speaker 5: enjoy the Friday stack of stupid. Yeah. So, first of all,

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Speaker 5: Tom stole my thunder Charlie Kirk. His main point was

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Speaker 5: proved me wrong. Never was he proved wrong? Uh. Secondly,

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to stay that say that my father

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Speaker 5: dollars back in the mid seventies, and because of my

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Speaker 5: and he did it all by himself. I had three boys, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I had three boys. My first one started college in

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Speaker 4: Deo.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I won't name the liberal arts college that happens

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Speaker 5: to be very close to Mount Vernon, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm blown away.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, we did send our daughter to Universal Ohio

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Speaker 1: State University, four year undergrad degree in horticulture and a

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Speaker 1: master's and plat genetics. Nowhere near one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: out nowhere near.

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Speaker 5: Well well, yeah, this little school in the middle of nowhere,

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Speaker 5: they they have, They've got nothing on Harvard, believe me.

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Speaker 5: So the last, but not least, I think what we

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Speaker 5: need to do is kind of pivot from don't vote

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Speaker 5: Democrat or Rhino to don't vote politician. We need more

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Speaker 5: statesmen in this country. Ye, and I'm just going to

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Speaker 5: leave it at this. How do you how can you

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Speaker 5: tell when a politician is lying.

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Speaker 1: Their mouth is open and they're speaking.

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Speaker 5: His their lips are moving. Yeah, all right, yeah, don't

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Speaker 5: vote politician. All right, Thanks, have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sally. I appreciate that I have a T shirt

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Speaker 1: that says fund politicians one of my favorites. Anyway, since

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Speaker 1: Al wants it, and I always enjoyed doing the stack

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Speaker 1: of stupid because Joe fills it with crazy naked people.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're starting this morning. Melbourne, Florida, Florida and

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Speaker 1: a naked guy that's never happens on a Friday, stagers

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Speaker 1: stupid man accused of touching a woman and exposing himself

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Speaker 1: in an inside a Dollar Tree in Melbourne, Florida. Police

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Speaker 1: said Blake Walker Jones arrested earlier this week after an

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Speaker 1: investigation into lude conduct. Reported to the touched one woman

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Speaker 1: and committed leude acts toward two separate women women Rather sorry.

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Speaker 1: Happened in July inside the Dollar Tree. Police said that

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Speaker 1: he returned to the same location later in August, where

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Speaker 1: he allegedly committed additional leude acts. Use your imagination, folks,

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Speaker 1: charged with felling batter due to prior convictions and exposure

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Speaker 1: of sexual organs. They're talking about that guy from slapshot

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Speaker 1: Joe get deliberate penalties. Wow, after the headline on this one,

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Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to even start reading it. I didn't pre

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Speaker 1: read this one, which can get me into trouble. Joe

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Speaker 1: loves pulling a ron Bergundy on me. Don't you Joe what?

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Speaker 1: Australian doc worker got his job back after first being

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Speaker 1: fired for, among other things, telling a colleague that he

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Speaker 1: placed his penis on the colleague's subway sandwich.

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Speaker 10: Do what the hell?

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Speaker 1: Sixty to year old Robert Smith? No, not that guy

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Speaker 1: fired from his job at que Ports, Melbourne. We've been

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Speaker 1: working since O nine. His employer q Smith of showing

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Speaker 1: a male coworker's bikini clad photos of women colleagues, telling

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Speaker 1: a subway sandwich, and calling colleagues a useless piece of

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Speaker 1: excrement and condescending word followed by a word that I

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Speaker 1: would never utter. It begins with the sea. Why are

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Speaker 1: you doing that? No idea? Smith took his employer to

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Speaker 1: the Australian Fair Work Commission arguing unreasonable dismission, with the

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Speaker 1: Commission of ultimately ruling in his favor. Commissioner Scott Conley

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Speaker 1: said the termination was harsh, unjust and unreasonable. Really, Cubasury

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Speaker 1: in state mister Robert Smith by reappointing him to honor

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Speaker 1: before twenty sixth September twenty five to the position in

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Speaker 1: which mister Smith was employed immediately before dismissal anyway, Conley,

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Speaker 1: the ruling entity, found that while there was a valid

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Speaker 1: reason for dismissal arising from the Facebook incident, a final

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Speaker 1: warning had already been issued as a consequence. He accepted

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Speaker 1: he zoomed into the pictures of the two female co workers.

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Speaker 1: He said. He also accepted, when pressed that the conversation

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Speaker 1: in relation to his female co workers was in fact

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Speaker 1: inappropriate for the workplace, well of great acknowledgment there, and

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Speaker 1: that he should not have been using his phone while

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Speaker 1: Now there's a lesson to be learned right there. Five

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Speaker 1: forty five efty five cares that he talks. They more

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Speaker 1: all look naked. People in the stack are stupid. I'll

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Speaker 1: take phone calls though, as a preference, be right back.

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Speaker 3: This is fifty five KRC and iHeartRadio Station by.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine I fifty five Percity Talk station. Eric, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for the memory talking about the man

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Speaker 1: putting his you know what on the subway sandwich. He

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Speaker 1: sent me the clip from Bachelor Party starring Tom Hanks,

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Speaker 1: and if you've seen the movie, you know exactly the

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Speaker 1: scene that he sent to me involving Nick the well,

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Speaker 1: you know Nick five, let's get her of the fundsy

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Speaker 1: what Jay's got this morning? Jay, Welcome to the program

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Speaker 1: every Friday.

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Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Brian.

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Speaker 11: Since we're going to stay on the subway sandwich thing.

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Speaker 11: I went to subway yesterday and I'm on the menu.

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Speaker 11: There is an up charge for extra meat if you'd.

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Speaker 1: Like to go down there. Just but I'm bump you

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Speaker 1: wanted that, but I'm all right.

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Speaker 7: Hey the happy.

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Speaker 11: Happy day number three of independence?

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Speaker 4: Did all the listeners?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, some mass You're still alive?

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Speaker 4: What I like to do?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Not longly?

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Speaker 11: Are You're still alive. But the most expensive thing you buy,

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Speaker 11: which you can take a look at your past of

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Speaker 11: is that line that says Bika, that's your federal income tax.

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Speaker 11: And you are buying federal government by far more than gasoline, groceries,

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Speaker 11: your mortgage or anything else. I took a look at

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Speaker 11: how much money.

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Speaker 5: Have we saved so far?

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Speaker 11: If one point seven trillion dollars of discretionary spend is

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Speaker 11: in jeopardy, which is only twenty seven percent of the

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Speaker 11: total budget, we take one point seven trillion and divide

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Speaker 11: it by three days. So far, we've saved five hundred

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Speaker 11: and eighty eight thousand dollars. So we're trending that if

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Speaker 11: we keep this thing shut down for a month, we're

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Speaker 11: like up to how much money we gave the Cleveland

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Speaker 11: Browns for a brand new stadium.

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Speaker 12: So discretion, now continue the line of thought and try

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Speaker 12: to figure a way of working in the streetcar in

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Speaker 12: that conversation.

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Speaker 11: Wow, sure, but you know this, I want every And

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Speaker 11: there was a poll recently that talked about how many

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Speaker 11: Republicans disagreed with, you know, the Democrats shutting the government down.

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Speaker 11: It's the first time in my life that I've agreed

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Speaker 11: with the Democrats to shut it down. And apparently there

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Speaker 11: was only like five percent of US Republicans that you know,

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Speaker 11: said yes, let their Democrats shut it down. But honestly,

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Speaker 11: we would side with if the Republicans wanted to shut

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Speaker 11: it down.

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Speaker 5: For anybody else.

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Speaker 11: The great Civics lesson is that you're still getting up

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Speaker 11: in the morning, your life still goes on. It doesn't

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Speaker 11: affect you at all, And we're saving a ton a

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Speaker 11: ton of money. And originally this was not a full

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Speaker 11: time job. This was federal government workers. And our politicians

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Speaker 11: would go maybe I think it was, and you might

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Speaker 11: know better than I do, Burn, but I think it

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Speaker 11: was like you went for a month to go do

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Speaker 11: federal government stuff, to be a s and then you

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Speaker 11: went back home to run your farm or your business

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Speaker 11: or whatever it was. But it was by no means

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Speaker 11: meant to be a full time gig that it is today.

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Speaker 11: So my hope is that it stays shut down. But

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Speaker 11: in closing, whatever we do, if the government shut down,

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Speaker 11: as long as we can, don't vote Rhinos and don't

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Speaker 11: vote Democrats.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Jay, I appreciate your call. Man, have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. Let us see here back to the

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Speaker 1: stack of stupid Kuna, Hawaii, where a man there is

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Speaker 1: accused of trying to rob a home using knives while

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Speaker 1: naked and exposing himself to a young girl. Fifty seven

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Speaker 1: year old Christov Snarski charge the first degree burgerleary, first

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Speaker 1: degree terroristic threatening, second degree attempted assault, habitual property crime,

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Speaker 1: and fourth degree sexual assault. The Aristocrats into September officers

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Speaker 1: responded to call saying naked guy armed with knives was

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Speaker 1: trying to break into a home in Nanowall Estates. During

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Speaker 1: the incident, he allegedly threatened to and exposed himself to

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Speaker 1: an eight year old girl do what back out? Arrested

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Speaker 1: at nine am Thursday, he appeared in the Helo District

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Speaker 1: Court where a judge maintained his bail at one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirteen thousand dollars and ordered an examination for fitness

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Speaker 1: and penal responsibility phrasing referring to the incarceration system. I

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Speaker 1: think Snarski's got to return to court in December. They

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Speaker 1: want information from folks out there. If you have any information,

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Speaker 1: they went their local crime stoppers number to be called.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a victim, give them a shout. Naked

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Speaker 1: guy naked man taking into custody outside the College of Business,

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Speaker 1: University of Let's see unl video of the incident showing

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Speaker 1: the naked guy jumping onto multiple cars outside the College

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Speaker 1: of Business. The man yelled quote Jesus, Jesus close, quote

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Speaker 1: at a car full of women and quote will you

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Speaker 1: be wife? Having grammatical issues with that statement. No, he's

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Speaker 1: not an English major. He was in the rupauled drag

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Speaker 1: contests being taught by that Lahore Bagistan. Anyway, Following he

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Speaker 1: started pounding on the cars windows and sitting on cars.

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Speaker 1: McCown saw this other person. I saw the man jumping

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Speaker 1: into a white suv in a red University pickup, as

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Speaker 1: well as banging on the car windows. Witness said at

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Speaker 1: this point, my friend and I tried to get as

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Speaker 1: far as we could and we started to call the police.

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Speaker 1: That he ultimately shows the man surrending to the police

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Speaker 1: officers in the middle of the street. University said it's

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Speaker 1: unable to comment. And finally, we've got a Tel Aviv

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Speaker 1: where residents, including parents and children of alleged to have

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Speaker 1: been harassed by a woman stripping and demanding money in

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Speaker 1: exchange for reclothing herself interesting black metal tempt described as

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Speaker 1: in her forties, The woman allegedly started stripping in the

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Speaker 1: streets and public parks. One resident there, I'm walking with

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Speaker 1: my two children in this park and suddenly she ran

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Speaker 1: toward us naked. The children were very frightened. She asked

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Speaker 1: for money so that she wouldn't undress again. So it

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Speaker 1: turns out that this has happened to other residents as well.

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Speaker 1: This is a reoccurring phenomenon and there is no solution.

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Speaker 1: Another resident, Quota is saying it is an unreasonable situation

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Speaker 1: that a woman undresses on the street and asks for money,

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Speaker 1: stating the obvious in front of children and people, so

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Speaker 1: are afraid to approach her lest she claimed to have

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Speaker 1: been sexually harassed. Police and social services must find a

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Speaker 1: solution as soon as possible. Police confirm they are aware

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Speaker 1: of the situation after calls from local residents. They did

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Speaker 1: attain the woman for questioning, but she continued stripping after

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Speaker 1: being released. What police admitted quote We've tried to take

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Speaker 1: action against her together with the welfare authorities, but so

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Speaker 1: far without success. The woman who was in drug rehab

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Speaker 1: did not finish the process and return to the streets.

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Speaker 1: Were working with social services on an appropriate response, but

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Speaker 1: as of now no solution has been found. All right,

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Speaker 1: tech for send her to Gaza. Joe suggests, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: an opportunity of possibility. Anyway, we've got plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: please feel free to do that, and then Tech Friday

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Speaker 1: beginning with the Internet will be debt in three years.

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Speaker 1: That'll start at six thirty. I hope you can stick

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Speaker 1: around with you right back. Today's top headlines coming up

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Speaker 1: very happy Friday, and hope you have some great plans

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have Donna Swab and folks in studio

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Speaker 1: at eight o five talking about the october Fest taking

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Speaker 1: and we'll be experiencing a little bit of that in

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Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. Preseeded by Diana Tellis board member

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Speaker 1: Power You, Empower You America dot orgers where you find them,

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Speaker 1: and they're opening a new Turning Point Club. It'll be

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Speaker 1: going to Empower You Turning Point Club to serve high

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Speaker 1: schools in the city. Diana'll be talking about that at

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Speaker 1: seven thirty and also a call to action and we

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Speaker 1: can solve the problem. Maybe before seven thirty. They need

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Speaker 1: a place to meet. Turning Point Club from Empower You,

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Speaker 1: Empower You solid organization Dan Regnold started more than a

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Speaker 1: decade ago wonderful education Opportunities and I'm glad to see

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Speaker 1: that they're focusing their efforts on young people getting engaged

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Speaker 1: with turning point, So that'll be at seven thirty, preceded

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Speaker 1: by Chief Scott Hughes. He'll be talking about the Junile

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Speaker 1: Justice reform build that's being considered a Columbus no fan

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Speaker 1: of that. Chief Hughes will break that down and what

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Speaker 1: it's all about. Bottom of this hour, six thirty Dave Hatter.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Tech Friday with Dave Hatter every Friday in

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Speaker 1: the morning show. Today, topic number one is really intriguing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't read the article related to it, I'll admit,

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Speaker 1: but the internet will be dead in three years. Second

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Speaker 1: topic one bad password ruin the one ruins one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty year old business. Plus Albania appoints an artificial

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Speaker 1: intelligence bot as its minister to combat corruption. Think that's

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Speaker 1: going to work out real well? Five three seven two

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Speaker 1: three dog pound five fifty on AT and T funds.

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Speaker 1: I guess Tesla's aren't bad anymore. On top of the

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Speaker 1: air news, everybody's brothers buying Tesla's before the tax credit expires. Huh.

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Speaker 1: I thought those things were fascist mobiles. She's not worried

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Speaker 1: about getting vandalized anymore. That's your choice. I'd listened. Drive

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Speaker 1: a Tesla if you want John Roman, my friend from cover,

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Speaker 1: since he's got one of those Tesla plaids. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Those things are like a rocket ship. The very impressive

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Speaker 1: from a performance standpoint, but I still wouldn't own one.

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Speaker 1: I certainly prefer my internal combustion engine, as do many

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Speaker 1: other people. European unions waking up to that reality. Apparently

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Speaker 1: they've driven the car manufacturing business into the toilet over

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Speaker 1: in the EU. Anyway, why not stick with stick with schools.

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Speaker 1: I started out with Harvard hiring Lahorer Bagistan as a

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Speaker 1: visiting professor. This is a drag queen teaching a show

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Speaker 1: on Rue Paul among and I more, I listen, you

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Speaker 1: go ahead and hire whoever you want. You know me,

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Speaker 1: Lil Oliver retire, and I don't care that there's transvestites

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Speaker 1: out in the world. And Laharvajistan's free to do what

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Speaker 1: he wants to do in his free time. And even

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Speaker 1: teacher Carl class at Harvard. Remember you're paying more than

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars a credit hour there. But I was

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Speaker 1: more upset about the classes he was teaching, because who

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Speaker 1: in the hell needs to take a class at three

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Speaker 1: four hundred dollars an hour on Rue Paul drag race

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Speaker 1: and desire or queer ethnography.

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Speaker 4: You know what the hell that is?

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Speaker 1: Your student will not be a better person coming out

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Speaker 1: the other side of that, and will not learn anything

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Speaker 1: that is valuable too well, something that's going to feed

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Speaker 1: and clothe and house them. And as we pivot over

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Speaker 1: further information in school and I talked about this story

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Speaker 1: the other day, but it's gotten legs. Ian Andre Roberts

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Speaker 1: fifty one years old got fired by the Des Moines

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Speaker 1: Public Schools. He was the head of the largest school

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Speaker 1: district in Des Moines, thirty thousand students. Well, okay, so,

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Speaker 1: as it turns out, in addition to being an illegal immigrant,

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Speaker 1: which is why Ice picked him up, and he was

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Speaker 1: a resident of Guyana and moved here, I guess late

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Speaker 1: around he was not legally authorized or work in the

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Speaker 1: United States since twenty twenty, so he showed up here

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Speaker 1: prior to that got I think it was a student visa.

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Speaker 1: But he lied. His resume was filled with lies. He

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Speaker 1: claimed he attended MIT, he didn't, and he was in

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Speaker 1: this position and he worked in academia for a very

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Speaker 1: very long time. He also lied on other aspects of

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Speaker 1: his resume. Rumored to have been also caught having sex

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Speaker 1: with a female coworker on school property. He had a

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Speaker 1: prior gun charge. He's involved in the criminal justice system,

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Speaker 1: and there are records all over the place that everybody

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Speaker 1: that went out looked for and found. He faked many

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Speaker 1: of his credentials, according to the Des Moines School District's website,

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Speaker 1: where they show what he had earned, but didn't an

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Speaker 1: MBA at MIT's Sloan School of Management. When asked, a

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Speaker 1: spokesperson for MIT said, we have no record of that.

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Speaker 1: He also claimed to have attended Harvard and Georgetown. Those

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Speaker 1: schools didn't respond to a request for verification from The

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Speaker 1: New York Post, but you use your own imagination. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they didn't respond because whoops, we didn't read flag that

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Speaker 1: when he claimed to be a graduate of Harvard in Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: Roberts also falsely claimed he had a doctorate degree from

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's Morgan State University. When asked, the school official said

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Speaker 1: he did not obtain a degree from that school. Earlier.

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Speaker 1: Also was superintendent of Mill Creek Township Schools near Erie, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: He was in that role for three years, also on

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Speaker 1: fake credentials. From my understanding, during that time, the district

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Speaker 1: was apparently sued quite a bit, forced to pay out

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars in a sex discrimination settlements claiming

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Speaker 1: robert promoted less qualified women over more deserving men. That's

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Speaker 1: all in court records. In his role at Des Moines Schools,

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Speaker 1: again the largest district in the state, he ranked in

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars annually as his

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Speaker 1: base salary. The school district there, though, insists it didn't

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Speaker 1: break any laws and received all the appropriate paperwork to

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Speaker 1: verify his employment eligibility, paperwork that was vetted by an

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Speaker 1: employment agency apparently called Ray and Associates. At least when

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Speaker 1: he was working for Mill Creek School District, they vetted him,

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Speaker 1: they hired him after the vetting process, and that recruitment

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Speaker 1: company didn't bother responding to request for common either court

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Speaker 1: of the school district going to state, but the school

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Speaker 1: district received all required clearances, including an FBI background check.

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Speaker 1: Why prior to Roberts serving as superintendent, no dis buying

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Speaker 1: events were identified Despite the fact this guy's all over

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Speaker 1: the court record system. Did anybody from the recruiting firm

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Speaker 1: bother calling MIT or Harvard or Georgetown and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, did this Roberts guy attend and get

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Speaker 1: a degree there? Because he's claiming he did. That would

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Speaker 1: be a simple question to ask. And if you're a

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Speaker 1: recruiting company and you're responsible for doing the vetting, you'd

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Speaker 1: think that will be done as a matter of course. No,

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Speaker 1: he had a twenty twenty firearms of violation, and of

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Speaker 1: course when he was arrested by ice, he had a

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Speaker 1: firearm in his car. Question, how can an illegal immigrant

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Speaker 1: who was already subject to a detainment order acquire a

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Speaker 1: firearm in the United States? Maybe a friend gave it

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Speaker 1: to him, maybe he got it one of those evil

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Speaker 1: gun shows. Anyway, the law prohibited him. He was not

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Speaker 1: allowed to have a firearm, and he had a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty firearms violation charge on him. So there's two reasons. One,

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Speaker 1: you're not a citizen in the United States, therefore not

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Speaker 1: eligible to enjoy a right to keep him bear arms.

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Speaker 1: And number two, that firearms violation, I'll further prohibit you,

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Speaker 1: at least to some degree. So then you pivoted over

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Speaker 1: to this thing in Maryland, which I was confused on yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Actually thought if women at the State of Maryland, as

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Speaker 1: are with the guy who public school district turns out

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Speaker 1: the same thing active voter registration in the state of Maryland,

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Speaker 1: which is raising all kinds of flags. First off, you

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Speaker 1: get a giant red flag wing about the proper vetting

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Speaker 1: that schools are engaged in for the people who are

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Speaker 1: going to be teaching your children. They stand in local

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Speaker 1: parentice under the law, they're basically your kids' parents while

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Speaker 1: they have control over them. It's a big power. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility in those school districts owe you,

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Speaker 1: the parent, a tremendous amount of responsibility when it comes

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Speaker 1: to vetting people that are going to be working with

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Speaker 1: your kids. Don't you think the guy lied about the credentials.

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Speaker 1: So here's an empty vessel of intellect purportedly teaching your children,

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Speaker 1: or at least running the entire system designed to teach

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Speaker 1: your children. I mean and again they say, this guy

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Speaker 1: has been in all kinds of schools. Chief school officer

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Speaker 1: at Aspire Public School in Oakland, superintendent for public schools

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Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, Missouri, principal at a high school in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And Baltimore, full time substitute teacher in the

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Speaker 1: New York City public school system between two thousand and

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, all of that without credentials and

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Speaker 1: without lawful citizenship. You know, I'm glad I'm past this

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Speaker 1: time in my life. I'm glad my children are the

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Speaker 1: age they are because this is the kind of thing

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Speaker 1: I no longer have to personally worry about. But as

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Speaker 1: a parent, and knowing how I feel about my own

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Speaker 1: children and how protective I am, just generally speaking about

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Speaker 1: my children like you probably are as well, this is

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Speaker 1: serious stuff. Who's teaching your children? Did your school district

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Speaker 1: properly vet the teachers in front of the classroom in

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Speaker 1: your children's school? I would like to think so. But

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Speaker 1: this has got me really worried. Yeah. And also another story,

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Speaker 1: sort of a corollaria there, we got a twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old man with a documented criminal history of indecent

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Speaker 1: exposure who posed as a teenager and enrolled in a

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis high school bear Lake Area Schools. Twenty two year

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Speaker 1: old Kelvin Makaiah Lubke. They thought he was a seventeen

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Speaker 1: year old. He was on the football team. He played

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Speaker 1: as a running back, according to the principal at that school.

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Speaker 1: We received reports that an individual enrolled at our school

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Speaker 1: was over the age of twenty one, and promptly started

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Speaker 1: an investigation. Upon our initial investigation, we've determined that while

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Speaker 1: enrolling this individual, we followed our enrollment process, which is

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Speaker 1: as rigorous as state law allows. The individual appears to

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Speaker 1: have provided fraudulent documentation and false identity to enroll, which

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Speaker 1: is kind of strange what they said versus what public

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Speaker 1: records obtained by Fox and other local news outlets like

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Speaker 1: KMSPTV there pointed out that he has a record of

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Speaker 1: indecent exposure and harassment involving minors twenty twenty three Washington

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Speaker 1: County Sheriff's reported documentation of allegations of indecent exposure and

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Speaker 1: inappropriate online contact with juveniles public record. And this isn't

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Speaker 1: like it's a public record for when the guy was

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Speaker 1: a miner. That's a twenty twenty three record. He's currently

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Speaker 1: twenty two years old. Do the math on that he

861
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Speaker 1: was an emancipated adult when this happened. It's a public record.

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Speaker 1: So again, who's mind in the store? Six sixteen, Hank,

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Speaker 1: it's Friday, David. How do you feel about that? Tell

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Speaker 1: my dad, I said, Hi, O defonser go. Hank was

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Speaker 1: kind of up the hold over of the break. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Welcome to the show. Hank's good to

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Speaker 1: hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Likewise, it's good seeing you at the Listener lunch Wednesday.

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Speaker 9: It's kind of interesting getting to finally meet Christopher Smitherman,

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Speaker 9: even though I'm not a resident of Cincinnati, and that's

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Speaker 9: an interesting story all to itself. Really. I congratulated him

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I actually had a real estate agent and I fired

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Speaker 9: about thirty some odd years ago because my wife and I,

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Speaker 9: us houses in Cincinnati, and we finally just got somebody else.

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Speaker 9: And he called back later after we bought a house

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Speaker 9: in Cincinnati, or we told you not to. He said, well,

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Speaker 9: I hung up on him. But you were going they

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Speaker 9: were going on earlier about the useless classes in cold

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Speaker 9: and yeah, well I actually thought of a situation where

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Speaker 9: One of them would be hr in some companies, and

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Speaker 9: another one would be if you're a bureaucraft that has

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Speaker 9: to explain two spirits to somebody, I kind of think

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Speaker 9: being curly Larry and.

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Speaker 1: Mow Well stated, Well, stated, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: You were.

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Speaker 9: Another thing that I wanted to bring up, though, was

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Speaker 9: also the crime in Cincinnati. I was turned on the

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Speaker 9: by down and over the rhine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that.

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Speaker 9: Kind of goes back to my first point about not

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Speaker 9: wanting to live in Cincinnati. And I'm kind of looking

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Speaker 9: people that are settled were settlers in Indian country back

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Speaker 9: in the early eighteenth century or excuse me, early nineteenth century.

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Speaker 9: You know, I imagine imagine being somebody that's paying, you know,

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is an unsettling reality and reality that I faced.

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Speaker 1: And we were living in Logan Square in Chicago. We

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Speaker 1: just ignore it, kind of like Sarah Herringer said when

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Speaker 1: We were numb to the idea that gunfire was going

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Speaker 1: It really shouldn't. And to your point real quickly, my

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Speaker 1: If you have KCD talk station, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: It's six point thirty on a Friday. It's Tech Friday time.

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Speaker 1: Intrust it dot com is where you find the best

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Speaker 1: Hatter and interest It the Tri State areas leading uh

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Speaker 1: computer experts. Welcome back Dave Hatter for another edition of

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Speaker 1: Tech Friday. Good to hear from you, my friend. I

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Speaker 1: hope you're well.

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Speaker 4: Oh always good to be here. Brian. It's good to

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Speaker 4: see you this week too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thanks again for showing at listener to lunch.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a good time. It was one

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Speaker 1: crowded Jim and Jack.

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Speaker 14: So I thought so. To be honest, it's the first

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Speaker 14: time I've been to Jim and Jack.

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Speaker 1: So yeah. It's good for you to get across the

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Speaker 1: river every once in.

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Speaker 4: A while, Dave, I think I do, Brian, I do.

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Speaker 1: It's good all right, So I rather intriguing topic headline anyway,

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Speaker 1: And I did end up looking at the article, but

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Speaker 1: the internet will be quote unquote dead in three years,

1018
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Speaker 1: not really, but sort of kind of intellectually dead as

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Speaker 1: I think the direction we're going, right, Dave.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, And I think to some extent that you see

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Speaker 14: this already. I mean, if you think about it. In

1022
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Speaker 14: the last several elections, you know, you've heard about bots,

1023
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Speaker 14: and you know so much of X and various social

1024
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Speaker 14: media sites are made up of bots and it's.

1025
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Speaker 4: Not real human beings.

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Speaker 14: And you don't have to look too far to find

1027
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Speaker 14: photos online of either. What in the business are known

1028
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Speaker 14: as boiler rooms, you know, con artists basically sitting in

1029
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Speaker 14: a room waiting to scam you and real quick. It's

1030
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Speaker 14: just kind of segue off for a second. Even though

1031
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Speaker 14: I tell people all the time you should not do

1032
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Speaker 14: what I did yesterday, I just couldn't resist the urge

1033
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Speaker 14: to mess with one of these scammers. So, you know,

1034
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Speaker 14: I got the text, you know, some weird off the

1035
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Speaker 14: wall question you know that had no real bearing. So

1036
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Speaker 14: I responded to it. Hey, scammer, you know, I'm with

1037
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Speaker 14: the FBI. Appreciate the you know, So I respond to them,

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Speaker 14: and then I delete and block the number. And then

1039
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Speaker 14: they text me from a different number and same thing,

1040
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Speaker 14: and we go at this for about eight or nine iterations,

1041
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Speaker 14: and I'm like, hey, this is great fodder for my

1042
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Speaker 14: blog that explains to people how to avoid gammers. Like

1043
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Speaker 14: you please text me again. I just keep blocking the

1044
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Speaker 14: numbers and they keep coming at me from a different number. Right,

1045
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Speaker 14: I'm like, who in the world even if you didn't

1046
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Speaker 14: think this was a scam once you got, once you

1047
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Speaker 14: block someone and they came at you from like eight

1048
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Speaker 14: different numbers, wouldn't realize they're being scammed. But my point

1049
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Speaker 14: is you've got you know, bot farms of phone set up.

1050
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Speaker 14: You can find these pictures of these things going to

1051
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Speaker 14: town or computer server farms, and you know what this

1052
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Speaker 14: article is pointing out, they say, first servicing in twenty

1053
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Speaker 14: twenty one. The dead Internet theory is the idea the

1054
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Speaker 14: future Internet will be largely driven by autonomous spots rather

1055
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Speaker 14: than will were humans creating an endless content factory driven

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Speaker 14: by the engaged of solely digital entities. The term slop

1057
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Speaker 14: has come up now thanks to AI, the idea that

1058
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Speaker 14: over time, is AI feeds off of itself and other ais.

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Speaker 14: You have this idea of model collapse that instead of improving,

1060
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Speaker 14: it gets worse because it's not using real information. And

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Speaker 14: that's yeah, exactly, that's extensively what they're trying to get

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Speaker 14: at in this article in Popular mechanics.

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Speaker 4: People should go read it for themselves. You know.

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Speaker 14: Again, I think we're already seeing a good amount of

1065
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Speaker 14: this simply because a lot of the content that's generated

1066
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Speaker 14: now is either BOT driven or people are using AI

1067
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Speaker 14: to post things, which then AI reads ingest it, and

1068
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Speaker 14: again that leads to this idea of model collapse and slop.

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Speaker 1: So let me use a real life illustration. These idiot

1070
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Speaker 1: lawyers who have artificial intelligence generate briefs that are submitted

1071
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Speaker 1: to court which contain false citations cases that do not

1072
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Speaker 1: even exist, which they could easily figure out by grabbing

1073
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Speaker 1: them the U you know, using west Law or Lexus

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Speaker 1: and nexus and type it in there and realize, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not a real case, which is any responsible lawyer

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Speaker 1: has an ethical obligation to do before they show up

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Speaker 1: in court. But the fact that that is out there,

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Speaker 1: those fake cases, you can't get rid of it on

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Speaker 1: the internet with a delete button. So some other AI

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Speaker 1: entity which is ask a comparable question, is going to

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Speaker 1: go back to the bad data and recite fake citations.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. That's what I think.

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Speaker 14: You know, it feeds off itself and or you know,

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Speaker 14: wholly generated content like that. And in the article for

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Speaker 14: Aunt of Time, it says another report from Peer Research

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Speaker 14: Center estimates that thirty eight percent of most of the

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Speaker 14: human web pages from twenty thirteen no longer exists a

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Speaker 14: process of link rot. Because these developments behind the world

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Speaker 14: of online content, it's easy to draw on the inevitable

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Speaker 14: conclusion that the Internet is no longer for humans by humans.

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Speaker 14: And you know, it's got more detail. It's a very

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Speaker 14: interesting article. It's in Popular Mechanics. People should go check

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Speaker 14: it out. But I think we've been trending that way

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Speaker 14: for a long time. And you know, at one time

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Speaker 14: I owned a business that's now gone. You know, we've

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Speaker 14: published a lot of content then other than a website

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Speaker 14: like Internet archive in the wayback machine, it's all gone.

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Speaker 14: It no longer exists, right. So it's an interesting theory

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Speaker 14: and probably mostly true, especially as people get revenue. People

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Speaker 14: behind these bots can generate revenue by engagement and clickfarming.

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Speaker 1: So well, maybe this will in fact render the whole

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Speaker 1: thing useless. I'm not going to rely on artificial intelligence

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Speaker 1: because it's so filled with crap that it's not going

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Speaker 1: to help me. So I'm going to go back to

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Speaker 1: doing it the old fashioned way. We can only pray.

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Speaker 14: I think there's a possibility of that happening over time.

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Speaker 14: Unless these things can improve drastically and eliminate this sort

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Speaker 14: of slop and model collapse problem of feeding off themselves.

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Speaker 14: I think we may be headed in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And as Davis pointed out many times before, password

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Speaker 1: one is not a good password. We're going to find

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Speaker 1: out why that might be the case. Coming up next

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Speaker 1: five or forty five Kcity Talk station as a firearms

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Speaker 1: o aro on Thomas with Tech Friday's Dave hat or

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Speaker 1: intrust dot com, where I think the first time they

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Speaker 1: walk into your door at your business intrust it, they'll say,

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Speaker 1: let me talk to you about passwords. Am I close

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Speaker 1: on that one, Dave?

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Speaker 14: It's definitely right at the top of the list, Brian,

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Speaker 14: because as you know, as we've discussed for more than

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Speaker 14: ten years now, and anywhere you look, experts will tell

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Speaker 14: you the FBI, Microsoft people like that will tell you

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Speaker 14: that most attacks are not sophisticated attacks trying to break

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Speaker 14: into your firewall or something like that their quote identity

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Speaker 14: attacks unquote they're focused on getting a user's credentials. They

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Speaker 14: user name and password, and whether I buy them off

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Speaker 14: the dark web because they've been leaked, or whether I

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Speaker 14: guess them because people tend to use the same kind

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Speaker 14: of bad passwords and we see that year after year

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Speaker 14: after year and the information that's leaked, or I just

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Speaker 14: use tools that are freely available to hackers. Just root

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Speaker 14: force a password, run a computer program that just keeps

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Speaker 14: going until it can break it. You know, those are

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Speaker 14: all common ways the same information is being provided by again, Microsoft, Google,

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Speaker 14: et cetera. About this, and then you see stories like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: we talk about this a lot one and we encourage people,

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Speaker 14: both as individuals and as organizations to ensure that you

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Speaker 14: use strong, unique passwords for every account, ideally backed with

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Speaker 14: multi factor authentication or other ways to ensure that accounts

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Speaker 14: can't be easily taken over. Because I hear all the time, Brian,

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Speaker 14: you know I go out and speak about this stuff

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Speaker 14: a lot. Well, you know, I don't have anything worth stealing,

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Speaker 14: So what if someone gets in my email? Well, if

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Speaker 14: I get in your email, not only can I send

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Speaker 14: out fraudulent invoices perhaps or something like that, something where

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Speaker 14: I'm changing information for legitimate documents coming from your company

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Speaker 14: and payments are going elsewhere. You know, I've seen people

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Speaker 14: have money stolen from four oh one ks, but remember

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Speaker 14: most of the if you have to reset a password

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Speaker 14: for another account, it sends you an email. If I

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Speaker 14: can get in your email, I can potentially reset the

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Speaker 14: passwords for all of your accounts, your bank account, your

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Speaker 14: corporate bank account, your insurance, et cetera, and steal all

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Speaker 14: that money. But this is even more devastating because that's bad.

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Speaker 14: And I could tell you real world stories where I've

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Speaker 14: seen companies in Cincinnati that have lost tens of thousands

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Speaker 14: to hundreds of thousands of dollars through things like I

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Speaker 14: just described, like fraudulent invoices. But in this case, this

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Speaker 14: was an English company, Knights of the Old Logistics Group,

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Speaker 14: in business for one hundred and fifty eight years. Okay,

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Speaker 14: they are now out of business. Seven hundred people gone,

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Speaker 14: their jobs eliminated because this company failed. And when you

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Speaker 14: read through the article, once they did the forensics to

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Speaker 14: understand how the bad guys got in, they found an

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Speaker 14: Internet exposed system. It had a bad password and no

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Speaker 14: multifacture authentication. They got into that system, dropped ransomware that

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Speaker 14: basically encrypt everything in the business. They figured out where

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Speaker 14: their backups were. This is why it's critical to have

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Speaker 14: immutable off site backups so that if and when something

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Speaker 14: like this does happen, they can't get to your backups

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Speaker 14: if they can encrypt your backups too, unless you pay

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Speaker 14: the ransom. Apparently they wanted five million dollars. This company

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Speaker 14: didn't have five million dollars and they're now gone. And

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Speaker 14: I know this sounds crazy to people, Brian, but this

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Speaker 14: is one of many cases like this where a ransomware

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Speaker 14: attacked and lack of resiliency, the ability to restore the

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Speaker 14: systems put a company out of business. So yeah, one

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Speaker 14: hundred and fifty eight years down to drain. Seven hundred

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Speaker 14: people lost their job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that got to repeat that you have a

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Speaker 1: bad password. You're using password one two three, which I

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Speaker 1: think was the case here. That's not a good password.

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Speaker 1: You are the one who did not address that issue. Now,

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Speaker 1: some bad person out in the world was able to

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Speaker 1: figure it out because you had such a simple password

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Speaker 1: to crack. You, however, are responsible like your brother's keeper

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Speaker 1: for the guy in the qube next to use job.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't do the right thing, they are

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Speaker 1: going to lose out. They're going to be fire or

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Speaker 1: they're going to have a no longer have a job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is seven hundred people are no longer

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Speaker 1: employed because of one person.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, one bad decision at the least right, because again,

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Speaker 14: this may have been some firewall or something that doesn't exist,

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Speaker 14: doesn't explain exactly what they attack to get in, but

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Speaker 14: that your basic premise is right, Brian, someone made a

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Speaker 14: bad decision. It could be your cubemate, it could be

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Speaker 14: the it guy. But if I can get a foothold

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Speaker 14: in your company because there's a bad password and no MFA,

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Speaker 14: and let's be clear, MFA multifacture authentication is not bulletproof either,

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Speaker 14: but it really raises the barah makes it much much

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Speaker 14: more difficult. And there are things you can do that

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Speaker 14: will make it even more difficult. But you know, if

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Speaker 14: you're not doing these basic things in the business, it's

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Speaker 14: called basic cyber hygiene or essential cyber hygiene. If you're

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Speaker 14: not doing these basic things, if people have easily guessable

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Speaker 14: or easily cracked passwords, if I can find an Internet

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Speaker 14: exposed system.

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Speaker 4: I can eventually wreak havoc like this on your company.

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Speaker 4: You might not survive well, you said, eventually.

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Speaker 1: We can't end this segment's conversation about this sentence in

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Speaker 1: the in the in the In the article, research from

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Speaker 1: Cousperski analyzing one and ninety three million compromise passwords found

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Speaker 1: that forty five percent could be cracked by hackers within

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Speaker 1: a minute. A Yeah, singular.

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Speaker 4: Depressing, isn't it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, at a minimum, you should have at least

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Speaker 14: a twelve twelve character password, letter symbols numbers even better.

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Speaker 14: Longer is always better, You know, eighteen characters better. I

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Speaker 14: get that those are difficult to remember, the longer they get,

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Speaker 14: and the more complex. Use a passphrase, Get a password manager.

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Speaker 14: Come up with a word like green platypus sky, something

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Speaker 14: that's easy to remember, easy to type, hard to guess

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Speaker 14: because it doesn't mean anything in the real world. You know,

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Speaker 14: throw throw a couple symbols in there, like a green

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Speaker 14: use ease. That would be very hard to crack because

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Speaker 14: it's not a word in the English dictionary. It's a meaningless,

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Speaker 14: nonsensical phrase, easy to remember, easy to type, even better,

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Speaker 14: Get a password manager.

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Speaker 4: One pays harstword manager.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Dave, you go to LinkedIn dot com

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Speaker 1: and just look for Dave Hatter. He posts all the

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Speaker 1: articles on his LinkedIn profile site. A good thing to

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Speaker 1: do and follow Dave Hatter on LinkedIn. Get we'll bring

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Speaker 1: Dave back.

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Speaker 4: One more.

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Speaker 1: Albania has appointed in artificial intelligence BOT as its minister

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Speaker 1: to combat corruption. How's that working out for him? Six

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Speaker 1: forty six right now? But if I have kr CD

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Speaker 1: talk station, chimney care fireplaces, so think of your safety

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Speaker 1: you six fifty if if you five KRCD talk station,

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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter Tech Friday. One more segment interest it dot com,

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Speaker 1: find Dave and the crew for your business needs. And

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Speaker 1: you do have needs for business and security issues. And Dave,

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Speaker 1: before we just one more comment on that business one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight year old business that got put

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Speaker 1: out of business and shut down because of one password

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Speaker 1: faul fault. They pointed out they had that company had

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Speaker 1: what was described as industry standard IT compliance and cyber

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Speaker 1: attack insurance. Apparently not enough to keep the organization going.

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Speaker 1: So don't hang your hat on the fact that you're

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Speaker 1: insured for this risk, because it may be a hell

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Speaker 1: of a lot worse than your insurance might cover.

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Speaker 14: You know, Brian, you raised an interesting point. I recommend

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Speaker 14: that every business should have cyber insurance. I figure, frankly,

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Speaker 14: just going through the process of getting insurance, the questions

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Speaker 14: they're going to ask you will give you a lot

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Speaker 14: of insight into what you should be doing to protect

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Speaker 14: your business.

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Speaker 4: But you make a valid point, you know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, if you have two million dollars worth of

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Speaker 14: insurance but your risk is five million dollars, yeah, you

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Speaker 14: might not recover. And I also want to point out

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Speaker 14: and maybe we do this as a full blown topic

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Speaker 14: next week, because it's critical. Again, I can't recommend enough

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Speaker 14: that businesses have cyber insurance. That said, also when you

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Speaker 14: go through the process of filling out the information to

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Speaker 14: get the insurance. Hamilton, Ontario, Canada got hit with a

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Speaker 14: ransomware attack.

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Speaker 4: This is well documented.

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Speaker 14: They filed a claim for their insurance company for wait

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Speaker 14: for it, eighteen point three million dollars and then the

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Speaker 14: insurance company said, no, dice, because you didn't do the

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Speaker 14: things you said you were going to do, and thus

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Speaker 14: we're not going to pay the claim.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we don't need to do the AI thing.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hold that one off, we can

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Speaker 1: continue this because I'm kind of curious the insurance company

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Speaker 1: is going to do. Basically, an actuary analysis is like

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Speaker 1: getting a medical check before you get life insurance. They're

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Speaker 1: going to come into your business and find out what

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Speaker 1: you've got and what you don't have. They're going to

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Speaker 1: give you a list of things you need to fix

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Speaker 1: before they're insured or before you're insured, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's why it's important to do that you get the insurance,

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Speaker 1: they're going to go through this analysis.

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Speaker 14: So in most cases, companies like Coalition or cow Bell

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Speaker 14: and by the way, cow Bell Coalition puts out great

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Speaker 14: information every year that shows you what they're seeing out there.

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Speaker 14: Because it's one thing to listen to a guy like

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Speaker 14: me who's ultimately trying to sell you something, or Microsoft,

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Speaker 14: he's all trying to tell you something. You could argue

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Speaker 14: that like FBI, DHS says are less biased because they're

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Speaker 14: not really selling you anything, but you have people telling

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Speaker 14: you all the things you should do to defend against

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Speaker 14: this stuff. If you look at what the insurance companies say,

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Speaker 14: because then they got to come in and deal with

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Speaker 14: the aftermath and this stuff, you'll often see that they're saying.

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Speaker 14: They're telling you to do the exact same things the

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Speaker 14: people in the front that are telling you to do.

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Speaker 14: So in my mind, it just reinforces that what I'm

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Speaker 14: saying you should do is what you should actually do.

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Speaker 14: But to answer your question, in most cases, you're going

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Speaker 14: to get a questionnaire. These questionnaires have grown over time.

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 14: They ask you all kinds of questions. Do you have antivirus,

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 14: what kind of antivirus is it? Is it updated? Do

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Speaker 14: you patch your systems? You know that all these You

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 14: have a password policy, do you use MFA? You have

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Speaker 14: to fill these out right, and now you have attested

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Speaker 14: that you're doing certain things and if you're not doing

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Speaker 14: those things, because once an attack occurs and you final

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Speaker 14: a claim, these insurance companies have forensics experts, of course,

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Speaker 14: people who are specially trained, and that's all they do

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Speaker 14: is forensics. They can dig into your systems and figure

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Speaker 14: out what actually happened. Also critical after an attack, because

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Speaker 14: if you don't find the root cause of the problem,

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Speaker 14: they may hit the same hole again once you've paid

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Speaker 14: them off. Right, These are not nice people, So when

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Speaker 14: you go through this process again, it is instructive and

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Speaker 14: enlightening for businesses to see these questionnaires and see the

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Speaker 14: kind of questions they're asking, because you're going to find

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Speaker 14: they aligned with the sort of advice people like Intrust

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Speaker 14: and other people that focus on cybersecurity are giving. But

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Speaker 14: I cannot stress enough again you should have cyber insurance.

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Speaker 14: But if you do not know how to answer those

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Speaker 14: questions correctly, and or you are lying on the answers

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Speaker 14: to these questions, you're saying you're doing things you're not doing.

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Speaker 14: Guess what when you file a claim, they're forensics experts

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Speaker 14: are going to go, wait a minute, you said you

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Speaker 14: did X, You're not doing X, and they're not.

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Speaker 4: Going to pay.

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Speaker 14: Now again, imagine you're a taxpayer Hamilton, Ontario have a

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Speaker 14: devastating attack to the tune of eighteen point three million

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Speaker 14: dollars that is at least, you know, theoretically insurable, and

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Speaker 14: you're going to find a claim and the insurance company says, yeah,

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Speaker 14: we're not going to pay. This is the second part

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Speaker 14: of that existential threat. Like Knights of the Old they

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Speaker 14: had insurance but they didn't have enough insurance. Or if

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Speaker 14: the insurance doesn't pay, how do you survive? And I again,

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Speaker 14: Brian I know this sounds far fetched to people, and

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Speaker 14: they think it's never going to happen to them, But

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Speaker 14: it does happen, and if you're not prepared a to

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Speaker 14: defend against it, b to recover from it, whether that's

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Speaker 14: backup systems in some combination of insurance.

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Speaker 4: It may be the end of your organization.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that rings loud and clear based upon that story

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Speaker 1: in the last segment. Man, that's just it's this is

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Speaker 1: something that's so easy to fix ahead of time that

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Speaker 1: apparently it's so easy for them to hack in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have every incentive in the world he Dave's and

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Speaker 1: everybody else in the computer world's advice.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I know it sounds crazy to people. Get

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 14: people don't want to spend money on this stuff. I

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Speaker 14: understand it. They don't want to create the you know,

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Speaker 14: the perceived productivity impact and the friction. I understand all that.

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Speaker 14: But you know, it's just like if you have a building,

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Speaker 14: do you put sprinklers in it to keep it from

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Speaker 14: catching on fire?

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Speaker 4: And do you have fire insurance? Right?

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Speaker 14: The sprinklers are the are the defensive, proactive piece. The

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Speaker 14: insurance is the piece that comes in and.

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Speaker 4: Saves you.

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Speaker 1: Tries to make your hold.

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Speaker 4: Something tragic happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dave had are always always great advice. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate what you do and your day to day business.

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Speaker 1: Intrust it for what you're doing for the area businesses

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Speaker 1: out there. Interest I dot Com find Dave and the crew. Dave,

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure having you on the show. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your sound advice and emphasize to my listeners just do

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Speaker 1: what Dave says. Davill talk next Friday, Man, I hope

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Speaker 1: you have a wonderful weekend seven oh five. Here at

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Speaker 1: fifty five kr CE talk station, have you Friday. Brian

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Speaker 1: Thomas please to welcome a fifty five CARCA morning show

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Speaker 1: Hamilton Township Chieve Scott. Here it is police Defarmer Chief Scott.

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Speaker 1: He was welcome to the morning show. It's a real

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on today.

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Speaker 8: Good morning, Brian, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 1: Right back at you, Scott. I appreciate that sharing the

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Speaker 1: sentiment I feel on a Friday, happy happy happy. Senate

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Speaker 1: Bill two seventy not happy and props to Signal ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: who's a fellow law enforcement reformer law enforcement officer. She

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Speaker 1: posts things all the time. She brought this up You

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Speaker 1: had an excellent analysis on your Facebook page about Senate

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Speaker 1: Bill two seventy, which is juvenile justice reform in quotes.

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Speaker 1: But you've got a problem with this, and I think

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Speaker 1: I'm really sharing your concern. So let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: this is going to do. And honestly, a chief, I

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Speaker 1: really want to know what is what's the answer to

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Speaker 1: the why question, what's the motive behind this because it

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Speaker 1: seems like we're going in the opposite direction with regard

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Speaker 1: to how we plan on treating well criminal youth in

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Speaker 1: our in our area. But let's talk about the specifics

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Speaker 1: of spend it Bill two seventy.

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks, Brian. My concern with Enville two seventy is simple.

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Speaker 8: It makes accountability for juvenile offenders weaker at a time,

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Speaker 8: but honestly, we need it's stronger. It raises the age

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Speaker 8: for which you could commit someone to dys which is

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Speaker 8: the Department of New Services. It blocks commitments for some

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Speaker 8: first time at sellenty four or teventy fives, softening consequences

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Speaker 8: for gun cases. And uh, you know, juvenile crime is

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Speaker 8: out of control everywhere in this country, and we're seeing

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Speaker 8: it right here in Moren County. We're seeing it in

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Speaker 8: the tri state area, and what we don't need to

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 8: be doing is going backwards. The answer to the why

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Speaker 8: is simple. We have to start holding these these these

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Speaker 8: juveniles accountable. These are not kids that are egg and

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Speaker 8: cars and toilet paper in houses rights commit violent crimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I guess my question of why is what

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Speaker 1: the hell is the motivation behind Senator Paula Hicks, who's

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Speaker 1: a Democrat out of Toledo, and Senator Nathan Manning, a

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Speaker 1: Republican out of north Ridgeville, for sponsoring this and bringing

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Speaker 1: up in the first place, because it's widely described as

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan effort, and I kind of scratched my head

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Speaker 1: over that because I think the vast majority of my

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Speaker 1: listening audience shares exactly what the way you feel about this. Scott.

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Speaker 1: We need to be tougher on juvenile crime. They need

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: to have that that big giant red flag of their

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01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: will be consequences if you commit crimes, and here's what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, You're gonna get locked up. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: is the deterrent element of the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 4: Scott.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what some of these

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Speaker 8: politicians are thinking. I can I can tell you this,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if they've consulted anyone who's actually got

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Speaker 8: boots on the ground. And that's probably one of the

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Speaker 8: most frustrating parts about a lot of these bills that

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Speaker 8: we see UH being being pushed down from columbuses. Where

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Speaker 8: who are they talking to when they're coming up with

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Speaker 8: these ideas, Because if they talk to the if they

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Speaker 8: talk to the locals, if they talk to the police chiefs,

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Speaker 8: the sheriffs, the prosecutors in these counties, they're going to

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Speaker 8: find that we are to your point, So we need

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Speaker 8: to go to the complete opposite direction of this UH

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Speaker 8: and hold and hold these guys and guys accountable.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's focus on the issue. For example, stealing cars

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Speaker 1: isn't isn't that grand theft? Auto Scott? I mean that

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Speaker 1: what they used to call it?

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 8: Okay, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, you cite a specific illustration from Warren County where

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Speaker 1: you are twenty twenty five, just recently traveling Juno. This

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Speaker 1: is organized crime. Let my listeners know about this particular

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Speaker 1: circumstance which you cited on your post.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Sure, So, over the last several years, we've had

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Speaker 8: an influx of juveniles coming into places like Warren County.

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Speaker 8: Most of them are coming in from Cincinnati, or they're

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Speaker 8: coming down from Dayton, and they're coming down in groups,

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Speaker 8: and I know the same group as even a targeted

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Speaker 8: Northern Kentucky specifically Boom County. And they're coming down in

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Speaker 8: groups in stolar vehicles and they're basically canvassing neighborhoods and

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Speaker 8: they're walking through these neighborhoods in the overnight hours when

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Speaker 8: they should be sleeping ready for school the next day,

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Speaker 8: and they're looking for unlocked cars, and they're breaking into

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Speaker 8: cars and they're grabbing anything they can of value, and

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Speaker 8: if the keys are in the car, they're stealing these cars.

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Speaker 8: And I'm being told that there are adults that are

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Speaker 8: behind organized groups because the adults know that the kids

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Speaker 8: will not get in trouble if they're caught, and they

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Speaker 8: are one hundred percent correct. These kids are not being

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Speaker 8: held accountable. It's so bad, Brian, your listeners need to

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Speaker 8: know this. Somebody reached out to me after that post

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Speaker 8: and said, the best job in government is working in

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Speaker 8: juvenile detention centers. And it's simple because there's no one there.

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Speaker 8: Right We take these kids to juvenile detention centers across

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Speaker 8: this state, and the minute that they walk in the door,

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Speaker 8: they're on the phone with a parent or a guardian

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Speaker 8: telling them to come pick them up because they don't

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Speaker 8: hold them. Well, there's no consequence. If you know you're

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Speaker 8: going to get right back out, then what's the return

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Speaker 8: to go out and stop committing.

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Speaker 1: Crimes right and and chief. That's under the current law,

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Speaker 1: which this particular bill center Bill two seventy will make

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Speaker 1: even weaker.

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Speaker 8: That's right, that's right, we're over. They already dismiss charges,

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Speaker 8: even serious ones. We've seen gun charge. We had a

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Speaker 8: k civil Warren County where a judge under rule nine

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Speaker 8: dismissed a gun charge on a kid because he didn't

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Speaker 8: want to commit him to dys and wait for it.

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Speaker 8: Guess what happens. He hands up using a gun and

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Speaker 8: getting in recommitting. There's zero consequences for these kids actions.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, Well, you know you talked about organized crime, sir.

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Speaker 1: I mean juveniles are not protected as juveniles from being

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Speaker 1: charged with RICO. You got more that you have organized

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Speaker 1: criminal activity even though they're fourteen years old. They are

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Speaker 1: out there at the best that somebody else were working

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Speaker 1: together with other cohorts, any coordinated effort to commit crimes

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Speaker 1: that is right in Rico's wheelhouse, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: One hundred percent? Absolutely, you're spot on. If if we

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Speaker 8: were able to charge these serious offenders, and again, these

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Speaker 8: aren't kids stealing candy bars from speedway, these are serious

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Speaker 8: offenders who who know what they're doing, if we were

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Speaker 8: able to hold these young men and women to the

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Speaker 8: same stands that we can to your point, federally, h

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Speaker 8: we could put a dent in this. But until we

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Speaker 8: have meaningful change, not things like center Pill two seventy,

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Speaker 8: until we have meaningful change from people who want to

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Speaker 8: make a difference. Unfortunately, we're just going to continue kicking

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Speaker 8: this can down the road, and we're going to have

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Speaker 8: more victims. I just saw it. I think last night.

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Speaker 8: I saw in the news. This morning we had what

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Speaker 8: two kids shot in Cincinnati again juvenile. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 8: pointed out in my article or excuse me on my

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Speaker 8: Facebook post. Let's not forget that. In September of two thousand,

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Speaker 8: the officer Kevin Crayon from the Cincinnati Department was murdered

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Speaker 8: murdered by a twelve year old kid twelve or thirteen

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Speaker 8: driving a stolen vehicle. Kevin Kran reached in that car,

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Speaker 8: tried to take the keys out ignition. The kid take

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01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 8: took off and caused Kevin to be drugged to his death.

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Speaker 8: And you know he got hit by a car come

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Speaker 8: the other way, that kid under Tidbill two seventy. If

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Speaker 8: that's not classified as if crime, he's not doing he's

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Speaker 8: not doing d ys time. And that's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well, I suppose in a perfect world, Chief Scott Hughes

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Speaker 1: with the Hamilton Township Police. What else in the I

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: mean obviously that this, to me and to you is

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: the wrong way to go. Softening the consequences for crime

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01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: is not good. We want to make the crime, make

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01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: it harder and more difficult on them. When to get

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01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: caught for committing these hainting his crimes? What else is

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01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: wrong with the system with juveniles? I mean, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the fact that these juvenile detention centers are just empty shells?

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: Is that something that if you had to suggest or reform,

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01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: Is there something we can do to make them, you know,

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01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 1: worthwhile an actually legitimate part of the criminal justice system.

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01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm at a loss to how this

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01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: all has just sort of fallen apart over the year.

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Speaker 8: Scott, Well, I think I think I think the facilities

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 8: are not because the kids stopped creating crimes. Right the

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01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 8: court stops cinemama, and you know, we talk all about rehabilitation.

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01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 9: We want to work ability.

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Speaker 8: People, and listen, I'll be the first to tell you

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Speaker 8: if someone can be rehabilitated and turned into productive citizen,

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01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 8: sign me up, right, But accountability comes first, Right, Your

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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 8: first felamy should be a wake up call, not a

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01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 8: free pass. If you're out there committee felonies, you have

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01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 8: already been promoted to the higher level. So we've got

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 8: the tools in place. Fill the detention beds, stop dismissing

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01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 8: serious cases, and start sending the message from the judges

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01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 8: that crimes have consequences. You know, I'm being told too

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01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 8: after that post. Excuse me that that some of the

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01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 8: schools are being told when they've got these kids committing

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01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 8: committee violations inside schools to stop filing charges because the

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01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 8: courts aren't going to do anything to them. That's insane,

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01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 8: It's absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: Chief Hughes, I think you really have kind of got

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: to the point of the problem here. It's not necessarily

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01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office and walk prosecutors. Although you're comment about

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01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: them dismissing these serious cases does suggest that. But maybe

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: they're being dismissed because they know on the tail end

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01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: when they're finding in front of a judge, the judge

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: is going to treat them leniently and not h and

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01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: and and not sentence them either to a juvenile detention

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01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: center or what. There's going to be no consequences because

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01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the judge is light on or soft on crime. So

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01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: we have a judicial problem.

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01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 15: I guess primarily, I would agree one hundred percent votes matter, right,

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01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 15: they want to pay attention when they go to those

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01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 15: when they go to that ballot box who they're voting for,

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01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 15: and pay attention to what they stand for, look at

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01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 15: their record and look at what they support and what

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 15: and what they don't support.

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Speaker 8: And uh, that's that's certainly the step in the right direction.

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Speaker 4: We need to be taken.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of elected officials, these some people, some

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01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: elected officials like well these two Senator Hudson and Nathan

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01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: Senator Manning, Republican Democrat one each maybe pick better elected

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Speaker 1: officials when we're at the ballot box as well.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah. Absolutely. When these when these detention centers are

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 8: sitting empty, but we're still facing the crimes that we're facing.

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01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 8: Something's broken and this CENTERBIL two seventy is not the answer.

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01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 8: It's making accountability weaker and not a recipe for success.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, well, chiefus, you know what. I appreciate your

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01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: willingness to go out there and point this out to

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01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: the rest of us, and maybe there is something we

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: can do about it. I'll encourage my listeners to contact

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Speaker 1: their elected officials and say no to cent A bill

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Speaker 1: to seventy. Chief Scott Hughes, Hamilton Township Police Department, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: sir for the work that you do. Obviously it's a

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01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: challenge these days. We all here in the Morning show

1583
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: have your back and all other law enforcements back. You're

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: doing a great service to our communities. We truly appreciate it.

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01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: And keep up the great work and stay safe out there.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Brian, having great week.

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: Appreciate you having me on my pleasure. You got any

1588
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: further updates or comments or issues you want to talk about,

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01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 1: You got an open form here on the fifty five

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01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: KC Morning Show. Diane tellis born. Remember the empower you

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01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: and adult leader for the brand new Turning Point USA

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: Club within empower You. So it's an empower You Turning

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: Point Club. She's going to join the PARGM. In the

1594
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: next segment, we'll talk about what they're going to planning on,

1595
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: what they're planning on doing, what is the Turning Point

1596
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 1: Club that empower you? And they need a place to meet,

1597
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: So we're going to see if we can't help Diana

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01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: in the new Turning Point Club find a venue for

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01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: their meetings. And if you know of a place, maybe

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01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: someone at the Classical Academy since Ant Classical Academy that

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01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 1: sounds like an ideal fit. Maybe the new Blue Ash Campus.

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01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing it out there as a suggestion. Maybe

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01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: if someone with the since Ant Classical Academy might know

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: if they've got a venue that might hold the Turning

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01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: Point USA chapter. That's one possibility, but we'll get the

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01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: word out anyway. In the next segment, find out what

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01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: they're all about, and real quick here, since we were

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: doing Tech Friday with Dave had He earlier. I really

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01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: don't know if this is true or not, and it's

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 1: starting to circulate on social media, but I can't find

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01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: a real, genuine, reliable source. Now the source that sided

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01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: with this is USA Today. However, the link, although starting

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: out with USA Today, goes on with this long rambling

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01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: something or other that does not look anything like USA Today.

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01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: So the IP address very questionable. And I did a

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 1: search for the headline and only came up with the

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01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: repost on Facebook as well as the original so called

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01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: USA Today article, although it's not flying under a banner

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01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: of USA Today headline. Philly's Karens Who's MLB? After getting fired?

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: He all remember the viral video the woman who took

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01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: the ball away the little kid had it, or actually

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01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: his dad got the ball that went into the stands

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01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: gave it to his son. She came over and demanded it,

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01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: and he gave it to her, and everybody got all outraged.

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: Viral video literally went everywhere, just millions and millions, a

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: hit hits, and of course they continue to play it

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01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: over and over again. She's in this alleged lawsuit. Again,

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm red flagging this as a question mark. She apparently

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01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: lawyered up and sued MLB and social media sites like TikTok,

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 1: and because she got humiliated, she got apparently this article

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01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: I suggested, I don't know if it's true or not. Again,

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01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: giant red flag. Before you conclude something is real, you

1633
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 1: might want to go out into the world and do

1634
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of research. So it's critical of these

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01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: idiot lawyers who let artificial intelligence generate briefs for them

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: and they don't go back to the real case law

1637
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: and see if the cases are actually genuine or just

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01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: made up by AI. So this has some red flaggy

1639
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: type stuff to it. It's more of an editorial type article.

1640
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: But the alleged allegation is that she had her life

1641
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: ruin and she's seeking damages for defamation exploitation of her image,

1642
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: arguing that while everyone was laughing other and made money

1643
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: off of her video. I don't know how they did that.

1644
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: If they did, except the MLB, if they ran it

1645
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: over and over again because they were getting clicks and

1646
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: hits and attraction, they would make money. But I think

1647
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: the suggestion here for me anyway, is listen, you have

1648
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: no expection of expectation of privacy when you're out in

1649
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: the world. You know everybody's got a camera these days.

1650
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: You got to realize that and appreciate it. That's why

1651
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 1: I always laugh at criminals these days. Don't you realize

1652
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: that there are video cameras recording your crime. You didn't

1653
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: even bother putting a mask on when you went in

1654
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: to rob the convenience store. You're going to be found. Well,

1655
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: you're not a criminal, but you're out in public. There

1656
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 1: could be a guy standing across the street filming your

1657
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: every move and there's nothing you can do about that. Now,

1658
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: generating income based upon your image. That's an area that

1659
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely familiar with, and I think there may

1660
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: be something to that. But you know, some guy reposting

1661
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: a video of something going on in the streets. I

1662
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: don't know that you're going to make any money off

1663
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: posting that, but it could be entertaining for the rest

1664
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: of the world to watch, especially if you're engaged in

1665
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: embarrassing or beyond the pale type of conduct. So I

1666
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 1: doubt some part of me wants to say this is

1667
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: not true, but litigation myth number twenty seven. Your claim

1668
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: must have merit. My lawyer friends laugh at that. Just

1669
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: because somebody filed a casuit doesn't mean they have a

1670
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: legitimate claim. There are lawyers out there who will ignore

1671
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: the realities of the likelihood of a victory in any case,

1672
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: and nonetheless move forward. Why because is a likelihood of

1673
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: a quick settlement, It's not worth them lawyering up and

1674
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: responding to your complaint and charge getting charge five hundred

1675
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: plus dollars per hour for a lawyer, which is a

1676
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 1: lot cheaper than a credit hour at Harvard. I might

1677
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: interject for my conversation earlier, but you might get a

1678
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: check for one thousand dollars, your lawyer will take half

1679
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: of it, and you'll go home with five hundred. But

1680
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: in the ultimate analysis, the claim itself does not seem

1681
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: to have merit but anyway too full. Reason for that,

1682
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 1: you have no expectation of privacy, so mind your p's

1683
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: and cues unless you don't care. And the concerns about

1684
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: artificially and artificial intelligence generated, well, stuff floating around out

1685
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 1: there that people immediately assume are accurate. I checked. One

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01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 1: of my best friends has got is a meme guy,

1687
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: and quite often it'll send memes and I like, did

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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: you look into that?

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01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 4: Is that true?

1690
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: And I will look into it, and of course it's

1691
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: not true. Don't send me things that aren't true. Look first.

1692
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: If it's true, go ahead, hit the send button seven

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Speaker 1: twenty five right now. If if you've got cares, it's

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01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: seven twenty nine, if fifty five care City Talk Station.

1695
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Try to have happy Friday and maybe start yourself at

1696
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: Turning Point USA chapter. Everyone's doing it these days. Of course,

1697
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, the founding member of Turning Point USA, extraordinary

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01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: accomplishments in his thirty short years of life. Obviously, you

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01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: know the story behind Charlie Kirk's assassination is just a

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01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: heinous act, unforgivable, but something that I think made a

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01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: massive martyr out of Charlie Kirk and has allowed him,

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01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: even in death, to extend even further his sound message

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01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 1: of open debate and exchange of ideas thoughtfully without anger

1704
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 1: and violence. And someone who knows all about that, Diana

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01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 1: tell us, who's here to talk about a new Turning

1706
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Point USA chapter under in the Empower You umbrella. Diana,

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01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: it's welcome to the program. Thanks for coming on today.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for having me, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: You work with Dan Regnold of Empower You on this one.

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Speaker 3: I am yeah. So I recently had joined the board

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Speaker 3: and he had questioned what kind of time I could give,

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Speaker 3: and in that conversation. I mentioned that my son, my

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Speaker 3: youngest Michael, who is homeschools, had asked me to start

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Speaker 3: a Turning Point chapter actually last year, and I had

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Speaker 3: been trying to work that out, thinking about the possibilities

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Speaker 3: within the homeschool community, and he said to me, well,

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Speaker 3: why don't you do that through empower you? And that

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Speaker 3: offer was just I couldn't have asked for a better offer.

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Speaker 3: To serve the students I writer Cincinnati, and to have

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Speaker 3: some faith. And he knows a lot of people. He's

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Speaker 3: great to work with and is very, very connected, far

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Speaker 3: more connected than I am.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more connected than any of us could ever

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Speaker 1: hope to be. Assuming we want to be connected, Diana,

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Speaker 1: Dan's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: We want to be connected. He's the guy to start with.

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Speaker 1: Sure and for a Turning Point USA chapter. I gotta

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Speaker 1: haven't I have an idea? Dan Reagunill firmly embraced this concept.

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Speaker 1: Now do you need?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Does does one? In order to start a TPUSA And

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Speaker 1: for my listeners, go to the website tp USA Turningport

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Speaker 1: USA TPUSA dot com. Uh does it need to be

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Speaker 1: beneath an educational institution? I know a lot of these

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Speaker 1: Turning Point USA chapters are present or on or alive

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Speaker 1: and well on college campuses just like any other college

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Speaker 1: campus organization. But like, let's just say, Diana, if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to start a Turning Point USA chapter, can you

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Speaker 1: just do it and just say, hey, we're meeting at

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Speaker 1: my home kind of thing? Or do you need to

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Speaker 1: be need to be beneath a higher education or some

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Speaker 1: other institution like in this case empower you.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's a great question. So in our case, I

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01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: did meet with a rep back in the spring. They're

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Speaker 3: a little hard to find right now. Yeah, the rep

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Speaker 3: in this area, she actually had left and they were

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Speaker 3: finding somebody new. So they were in flux already before

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Speaker 3: Charlie kirksissascination. But what I learned in what little time

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Speaker 3: I spent with them is that you probably could. They

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Speaker 3: have what's called we're actually called a hub according to

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01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 3: that organization, the TPUSA, or a hub, because we are

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Speaker 3: not affiliated with a school and therefore for their our purposes,

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01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 3: we needed to give a region. If we didn't have

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Speaker 3: a high school name then or a college name for example,

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01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: we would need something. So we chose Dan and I

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01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 3: talked about it. We chose Greater Cincinnati, and that opened

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Speaker 3: it up to all, you know, any high school student

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Speaker 3: in the Greater Cincinnati area, which at the time didn't

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Speaker 3: seem quite as daunting. At this point, after Charlie Kirks's

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Speaker 3: fascination and after everything that's happened, it's a it feels

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01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 3: like a lot. But the crowd that we're getting has

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01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 3: been very manageable, and we'll see moving forward what that

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Speaker 3: looks like. But you probably don't. You could be a hub.

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Speaker 3: I was told that there's a group that meets a

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Speaker 3: small patriotic group of students. It might even be in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: but somewhere in southern Ohio, and they sit around the

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Speaker 3: campfire and talk about you know, I guess politics. That's

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01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: because look, it could look the way you want it

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Speaker 3: to look. Right, we're going to we're going to try

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Speaker 3: and do a little more than a lot more than

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Speaker 3: that in this chapter. If we're going to have family

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Speaker 3: starting all over to meet and empower you, then we're

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Speaker 3: going to put our best foot forward and make this

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Speaker 3: something bigger and better than that.

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Speaker 1: Great well, you know, conceptually, it's you know, like I

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Speaker 1: was talking earlier about college education. You know, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to college. For like an art degree, you can

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Speaker 1: study art online. It's a hobby. You can learn it

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Speaker 1: on your own, study van go study the classics. Good

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Speaker 1: at the moment, whatever. But conservatism as a philosophy, in

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01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: this Charlie Kirk mentality and how he approached it is

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01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: a certain like a recipe, it's a formula. Do you

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Speaker 1: get assistance from TPUSA in starting a chapter? Do they

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Speaker 1: have resource materials? Do they have guides? They have instruction

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Speaker 1: materials that kind of thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they do, they do.

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Speaker 3: And I have my own vision too, which we are

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Speaker 3: allowed to apply to that right. But they do offer,

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Speaker 3: like if they're going to talk about free speech, for example,

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Speaker 3: there would be a free speech presentation that is on

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Speaker 3: the web page that we could actually you know, show

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Speaker 3: that in the group. And then my vision is to

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Speaker 3: have you know, an expert from the community come in

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Speaker 3: that can speak tree speech and apply it. Teach these

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Speaker 3: kids exactly what it means. It means that you know

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Speaker 3: what the government cannot do, but that if your boss

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Speaker 3: decides they don't like the way you're shouting it out,

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Speaker 3: you know on social media, they.

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Speaker 6: Can fire you.

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Speaker 3: So make it clear of these kids what that means,

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Speaker 3: because they're gonna they're hearing all kinds of messaging and

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Speaker 3: social media and and make clarification on that. But I'm

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Speaker 3: not an expert. I'm just doing the best I can.

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Speaker 3: I'm a patriotic American and I love freedom and absolutely

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Speaker 3: limit limited government for sure, and self covernance. So but

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Speaker 3: but we get an expert in and what I what

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Speaker 3: I really want to do is I want to show

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Speaker 3: that material and use what they've given us. But I

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Speaker 3: think a fresh voice as much as possible in the

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Speaker 3: room with them, and that we sit, you know, that

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Speaker 3: they sit among us, so that we're engaging the students,

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Speaker 3: not just talking at them like they're at school. I'm

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Speaker 3: really going to try and do that. I'm still learning

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Speaker 3: and it's still evolving, but that will be my vision

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Speaker 3: moving forward than you are engaging them.

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Speaker 1: And you said it out like you homeschooled, so you

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Speaker 1: have a you have appreciation for the concept of teaching

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Speaker 1: and instructing I mean, your own child. That's got to

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Speaker 1: be very complicated and difficult, at least from my perspective.

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Speaker 1: But the idea of engaging in sort of a Socratic

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Speaker 1: method discussion, the exchange back and forth, which is one

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Speaker 1: of the things I love so much about law school.

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Speaker 1: I don't know they do that anymore, but you know,

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Speaker 1: asking questions of the students, the students asking questions back

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Speaker 1: in that exchange. It's really wonderful to develop your well

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Speaker 1: logical and critical thinking skills. I'm going to bring Diana back.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about the Turning Point

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Speaker 1: USA chapter under the Empower You umbrella and where they

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Speaker 1: might be meeting more with Diana. Telli's station seven forty

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Speaker 1: here fifty five KRCD talk station Donna Schwabin Octoberfest is

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend. We'll hear from the Donna Schwabin

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Speaker 1: folks who will be in studio. God bless each and

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Speaker 1: every one of them. Eight h five. Right now we're

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Speaker 1: talking with Diana Tellis. She's a born member of Empower

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Speaker 1: You America and good for her. Obviously, a very true patriot,

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Speaker 1: saw the work of Charlie Kirk and like so many

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Speaker 1: other people after he was assassinated and even beforehand, open

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Speaker 1: chapters for Turning Point USA to do the work that

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was doing. Political philosophy, a conservative one of course,

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Speaker 1: and having a nice exchange. Hopefully it remains friendly exchange

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Speaker 1: with your political adversaries is what he's all about, just

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Speaker 1: trying to win the hearts and minds of those on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the political ledger who really they

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: don't get us, Diana, they really don't. I think about

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01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: the criticism of Charlie Kirk and the call him a

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Speaker 1: fascist and misogynist or whatever, and he cloaked much of

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Speaker 1: his political philosophy philosophy and it all sprung from his

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Speaker 1: profound religious faith. And I just am so bothered by

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01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: liberals who, immediately upon learning or understanding that Charlie Kirk

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01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: right quite often relied on his Christian faith as an inspiration,

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01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that immediately makes him a bad guy. They don't get

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01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 1: it that Charles Kirk was interested in their salvation as well.

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Speaker 1: He did it as a matter of compassion, concern, and love.

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01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: He wants other people, or he wanted other people to

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Speaker 1: experience the enlightenment that he felt so they'd enjoy life

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Speaker 1: the way he did. That's an evil, Diana. I just

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01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: I struggle with that conceptually. But that's who you're going

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01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: to be working with when you're engaging these folks. So

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01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot of hurdles to overcome and you're starting to

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Speaker 1: turn our life. Yeah, so where are you in process

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Speaker 1: with this starting of this chapter? Because I'm wanting to

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01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: know how people can get in touch with you on

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01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the progress or when and where the meetings are going

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01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: to be and we're going to figure out where they're

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Speaker 1: taking place too. But where are you in process? Has

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Speaker 1: the chapter officially been opened? Where are we?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we've already had our last meeting last Thursday. And yes,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you on Charlie Kirk. What a gift

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01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 3: that was that we had in him, that he was

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Speaker 3: concerned with everyone's salvation, right, and we want that to

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01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 3: be the self governance and obedience to God is the

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Speaker 3: basis of what this country was started on. We want

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Speaker 3: to propagate that, and we can't do it in our schools.

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Speaker 3: They're not doing it in our schools for sure, in fact,

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Speaker 3: the opposite message.

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Speaker 5: So we're going to do.

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Speaker 3: Our best to.

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Speaker 6: Make this work and.

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Speaker 3: Make this attractive to students. In fact, I'd like to

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Speaker 3: see candidates from it could be even both sides put

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01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: us on their list of places to visit every time

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Speaker 3: they're running for office, to check in with the turning

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Speaker 3: point kids of Greater Cincinnati. What a great thing that

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01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 3: would be and they can be inspired or not to

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Speaker 3: help a candidate if they wanted to. We wouldn't push that,

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01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 3: but they are certainly welcome to do that. So we

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Speaker 3: have launched. We launched last week on Thursday at the

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Speaker 3: Empower Youth Studios at Great Oaks and we had seventy

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Speaker 3: people in the room, roughly probably between forty and fifty students.

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Speaker 3: A lot of adults were there too, and I understand

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Speaker 3: that the parents wanted to kind of get a feel

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Speaker 3: for what this is going to look like and it

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Speaker 3: may not look like that that day. That was a

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Speaker 3: pizza pizza launch party, but we had Adam Bullet from

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Speaker 3: Americans for Prosperity talk to the student and UH it

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01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 3: went very very well. We were very excited. So we

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01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 3: had a week off. So we're every every two weeks

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Speaker 3: bi weekly, and we will.

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Speaker 16: Have another meeting on October the ninth, and we're bringing

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Speaker 16: in Gave Garadini from Turning Point USA, the Action group.

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Speaker 3: He is not it's we're sort of the educational arm,

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01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 3: but he works for the UH yeah, so he will.

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01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 3: He's a student, he's a University of at and student.

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Speaker 3: He's also the president of the Ohio College Republicans and

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01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 3: for Ohio, so he should be able to connect really

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01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 3: well with the students. And I really wanted somebody that

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01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 3: could do that this this for this next meeting because

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Speaker 3: of him being young and not being an old person

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Speaker 3: like me. And so I'm looking forward to it. We

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Speaker 3: are meeting a great Oak again on the ninth, and

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Speaker 3: you know we're still going to meet there. I'm just

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Speaker 3: open to ideas, is what I'll say.

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Speaker 1: Eurropan ideas. What were this one regularly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm yep, we may stay there. We'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and uh, I will tell you this too. We're big enough.

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Speaker 3: And I think we've had a lot of people stop

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Speaker 3: in and check us out at that one, at that

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Speaker 3: our for our first meeting, and some have reached out

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Speaker 3: to me. It's very hard to launch a chapter right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the online resources are as available. They're

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Speaker 3: stressed pretty senate TV USA right now, obviously. But there

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Speaker 3: are you know, folks out there who want to start chapters,

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Speaker 3: and we can do that. Hub Cincinnati, Caspital is probably

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Speaker 3: they're they're not launching a Turning Punch chapter. That's not happening.

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Speaker 3: They're more than welcome to send their families can come

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Speaker 3: and have their students join us. That would be great.

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Speaker 3: If they were ready to do that, they would be

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Speaker 3: doing it.

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Speaker 1: They're not okay, fair enough, So I mean, because that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you actually were able to use

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Speaker 1: it the and it seems like an ideal venue there,

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Speaker 1: uh the campus there, But it sounded to me like

1933
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Speaker 1: when I started out that this, you didn't have a

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Speaker 1: permanent site to meet. So Dave or rather Dan Regnold

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Speaker 1: is cool with you guys meeting at the at three

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Speaker 1: hundred Great Oaks Drive on a regular basis. Okay, good good,

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Speaker 1: good good good.

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Speaker 3: That's now for at five o'clock. I'm not super fun

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Speaker 3: at the time. That's really hard on our families. So

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Speaker 3: moving forward, we are evolving, right, So I'm listen to ideas.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 1: So well, the more people you get in the Turning

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Speaker 1: Point USA chapter, the more ideas you're going to be

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Speaker 1: surrounded by. I'm sure you're going to have a well oiled,

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Speaker 1: effective chapter there in virtually at no time. Now, how

1946
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Speaker 1: do people stay in touch with you? Do they do

1947
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Speaker 1: that through the empower Youamerica dot org site or do

1948
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Speaker 1: you have your own separate site for your chapter, because

1949
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of listeners are going to want

1950
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Speaker 1: to get their their children or maybe their grandchildren involved.

1951
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Speaker 3: Well, they can reach out to me. I will be

1952
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Speaker 3: on the other end of this email address tp USA

1953
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Speaker 3: at empower Youamerica dot org. That's TPUSA at empower you.

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Speaker 3: That's you, just you, not matt yowe you you America

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Speaker 3: dot or. You said it more times than I have,

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Speaker 3: for sure, So I'll on the other end of that

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Speaker 3: taking any kind of questions or comments from people or suggestions,

1958
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Speaker 3: and yeah, I welcome that. So I do see groups

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Speaker 3: maybe spawning off of this group too. So that's kind

1960
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Speaker 3: of the beauty of being Greater Cincinnati. As anybody that

1961
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Speaker 3: steps in. We would want a kid, a student to

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Speaker 3: come in and bring a friend and then say we

1963
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Speaker 3: need to do this at our high school. What a

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Speaker 3: beautiful thing that would be?

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Speaker 1: It sure would, I sure would. Yeah, Diana Tellis, thank

1966
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Speaker 1: you for inspiring probably more chapters to open, or at

1967
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Speaker 1: least inspiring people to get involved with your Turning Point

1968
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Speaker 1: USA chapter Again, tp USA at sign or empower the

1969
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Speaker 1: letter you and America dot org. You can go there

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Speaker 1: right now and check out the fall lineup schedule. There

1971
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Speaker 1: as well. Education opportunities abound. Thanks to Dan Reaganhold and

1972
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Speaker 1: thanks to you again, Diane. I appreciate the work that

1973
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Speaker 1: you're doing and I'm glad you got inspired to start

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Speaker 1: this chapter.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I appreciate that.

1976
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Speaker 1: Oh anytime. FEA seven fifty three, fifty five Kcity Talk Station,

1977
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas, welcome you back to the fifty five Carcy

1978
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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Let's guess ourselves a bad guy. Time for

1979
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Speaker 1: the crime stopper bag Guy of the Week with Officer

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Speaker 1: Tivity Green from the Cincinni Police Department. God bless the

1981
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Speaker 1: members of law enforcement. Welcome back Tiffany who were.

1982
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Speaker 13: Looking for Today, the Butler County Sheriff's Office is looking

1983
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Speaker 13: for Francisco Setic. Mister Sedek is wanted for a felony

1984
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Speaker 13: probation violation. Francisco Sedic was originally charged with burglary. Francisco

1985
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Speaker 13: Setic is an Asian male. He's thirty three years old,

1986
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Speaker 13: five six.

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Speaker 3: And one hundred and sixty three pounds.

1988
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Speaker 13: Francisco Setic has a history of theft and aggravated menacing

1989
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Speaker 13: and was last known to live on Lexington Avenue and Avondale.

1990
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Speaker 13: If anyone has information, on where police can find Francisco Esthetic.

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Speaker 13: Please call crime Stoppers at five one three thirty five

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Speaker 13: to two thirty forty or submitted tip online at crime

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Speaker 13: dash stoppers dot us.

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Speaker 1: And you're main anonymous. Your tip LEAs and arrest to

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Speaker 1: be eligible for a cash reward, and you need to

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Speaker 1: get the get the information of the police. Regardless of

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Speaker 1: the cash reward. Officer Tivity Green will be looking for

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Speaker 1: him his pictures on my blog page fifty five Carosee

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Speaker 1: dot com. So you're going to have to engage in

2000
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Speaker 1: some racial profiling. How about that? I thought that was bad.

2001
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, who are you looking for? Francisco Sedek? Okay,

2002
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Speaker 1: what does he look like? He's an Asian male. Now

2003
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Speaker 1: that lets you draw some conclusions. You shouldn't be looking for,

2004
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Speaker 1: say a black mail, correct, right, So racial profiling is

2005
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Speaker 1: something law enforcement does each and every day in the

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Speaker 1: name of finding the person they're actually looking for. Just

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Speaker 1: wanted to interject that seemingly obvious point that so many

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Speaker 1: people on the left side of the ledger mish. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the studio, folks, It's great having you in here.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Special shout out to young man Nathan here thirteen years

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Speaker 1: old member the Adonna Schwabin youth group. He's headed off

2013
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Speaker 1: to Elder High School. I'll reserve my comments, hey, because

2014
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Speaker 1: my dad was right here and he was still alive,

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Speaker 1: he'd be giving you an earful right now. Although you

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Speaker 1: don't have the Murdy Brothers to hang out with going

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Speaker 1: there anyway, Steve, I know you're out there listening. Anyway,

2018
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the event, and I want to start

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Speaker 1: off by thanking you from the bottom of my heart.

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Speaker 1: I've been waxing poetic about what is the specific I

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01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 1: think the schwab And sausage or.

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Speaker 4: What do you call?

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Speaker 10: We call it Schwabin sausage.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Schwaben sausage, Robin sausage. Yes, you have an assignment, folks,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have anything else going on in your world,

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Speaker 1: or even if you do, park those plans on hold

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Speaker 1: and get it to the Donna swab And Octoberfest and

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01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: try out these blank and Schwaben sausage and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get immediately addicted. And then you'd be either going I

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Speaker 1: got to join Donna Schwabin so I can't have access

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Speaker 1: to these other points throughout the year, or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be waiting for the next Octoberfest to get your hands

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Speaker 1: on them. I absolutely adore these. And this is your

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Speaker 1: own recipe.

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Speaker 10: Yes, secrets it is. It's a secret recipe.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they wouldn't share it with me either, but they

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Speaker 1: did share it with Wostlers, which is the meat company

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Speaker 1: that makes these for you.

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Speaker 10: Yes, just for our big events. We still make it

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Speaker 10: at our clubhouse. Like the youth group will make it

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Speaker 10: for fundraising things, but they'll make it for our big

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Speaker 10: events and they only make it for us. They don't

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Speaker 10: sell it out to the public or anything, but they.

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Speaker 1: Do help us out at ours and shout out to

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Speaker 1: Wastler's Redorm.

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Speaker 4: That all right.

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Speaker 1: It starts today today? What time today?

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Speaker 17: Chip here, six o'clock at pm. We go to eleven

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Speaker 17: pm tonight. Tomorrow Saturday, things kick off again at one

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Speaker 17: o'clock and then that ends at eleven pm. Sunday we

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Speaker 17: opened ten am for our sixteenth annual Dona Schwab and

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Speaker 17: Octoberfest car Show. That again, it starts at ten am,

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Speaker 17: it goes to three pm. We have registration time for

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Speaker 17: both American and European automobiles. And you don't have just

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Speaker 17: German cars, Oh no, we have all kinds of cars

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Speaker 17: and it's I'm a huge fan of German car at

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Speaker 17: least they used to be until he went electric. Get

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Speaker 17: over get over there and smack him in the face.

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Speaker 1: Would you?

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Speaker 17: You got connections with your preach to the choir, I know,

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Speaker 17: but it's a great place. You'll see plenty of German cars, Mercedes,

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Speaker 17: Volkswagens and much more. And of course Saturday we officially

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Speaker 17: kick things off tomorrow with our opening ceremony and that

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Speaker 17: features the Trocton Parade with over one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 17: participants all dressed in their authentic German costumes. And please

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Speaker 17: make sure not to miss our performances by the Dona

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Speaker 17: Schwaben and the Enon dance groups, and of course our

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Speaker 17: log sawing contest and chances to win log sawing contest.

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Speaker 17: That's always a great time.

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Speaker 1: We have ladies and the men like as in use

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Speaker 1: a saw.

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Speaker 17: Wonder, sleeping as logs on these huge long saws. We

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Speaker 17: have the men's and the women's heats and it's just

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Speaker 17: great to watch. Lots of fun and we've been doing

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Speaker 17: it every year with our good friend, the late Great

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Speaker 17: George Froundorfer. So we do miss him, and we still

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Speaker 17: have that contest in his honor.

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Speaker 1: Now, do you have uniform sized logs like they're an

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Speaker 1: official log sawing like metric for the size of the log,

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Speaker 1: the diameter or circumference.

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Speaker 17: It's a great question, Brian.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We just got to use what we got out there

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Speaker 1: in the woods and my own log Like I get

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Speaker 1: one that's only like an inch stick.

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Speaker 13: I win.

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Speaker 1: I just snap it in my hand.

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Speaker 4: I saw it.

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Speaker 1: You can't snap it exactly, all right, So well, let's

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Speaker 1: really quick. I want to let my listeners know it's

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01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,839
Speaker 1: Cincy with y donno d o nau dot com. Information

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Speaker 1: is right on the front page of the Donna Schrobin website,

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01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 1: so you can go over there. Jus Strucker is going

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01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 1: to put a link of it so my listeners can

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Speaker 1: easily go to fifty five kres dot com you get

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Speaker 1: the info. How long has your organization been around? You

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01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 1: guys are like the oldest one in town or what

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Speaker 1: are the oldest.

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Speaker 17: Among the oldest? I believe it was nineteen fifty two

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Speaker 17: of early early nineteen fifties that our club started. And

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Speaker 17: these were mostly you know, immigrants, first generation immigrants from

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Speaker 17: the Dona Schwaben area, which is which is Germany, Hungary, Romania,

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Speaker 17: Austria along the Donau which is the Danielle River right

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Speaker 17: and which most people know that name. And so it's

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Speaker 17: the the German speaking settlers that came and limbed up

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Speaker 17: in those areas, lived in those areas. It's called the

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Speaker 17: bread basket of Europe because they were so good at

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Speaker 17: raising crops and cattle and just everything until done correct.

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Speaker 17: And so they took you know, just this bad devastating

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Speaker 17: you know, property of land whatever and made it good

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Speaker 17: again until of course the war and then they you know.

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Speaker 1: And they came here.

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Speaker 10: They came here, which is good, and did the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve, and German heritage, we are as a city.

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Speaker 1: We all know that, and it's awesome. And I guess

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Speaker 1: the point of Donas Schwaben as an entity in organization here,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a social group, right, And that's really what

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Speaker 1: it's boiled down to, the whole thing. The concept of

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Speaker 1: Gomuti Kaike as we referred to it, is just really

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Speaker 1: baked into the cake.

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Speaker 17: That's why you're there, Yes, indeed, and we like to

2123
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Speaker 17: share that with the general public, and we do with

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Speaker 17: Most of our events are open to the public. We

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Speaker 17: have a couple that are only members only, but the

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Speaker 17: Octoberfest obviously is our biggest.

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Speaker 1: Is a bub correct and right you are. And I

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Speaker 1: was probationary boobin for a while. They gave up on me.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't drink quite enough.

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Speaker 17: I think you have to make their standards.

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Speaker 1: You do, and they are rigorous standards. So for folks

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Speaker 1: who know to the movement, are they like the party

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01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: subculture within the broader German community like they exactly? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to meet rigorous party standards. They have mandated

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01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: minimum amount of partying you have to engage in on

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Speaker 1: a monthly basis probably too. And you better know bourbon

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01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: and cigars pretty well too. That usually has alcohol general

2138
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,680
Speaker 1: just across the board. Bring your skill sets and try

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01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: to get in if you can. I'm still waiting for

2140
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the call, all right, but something else was going to end.

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01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh well, and you mentioned you do events without the year.

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01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Octoberfest is the biggest event of the year,

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01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: at least I presume.

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Speaker 4: That it is.

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01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 10: Yes, it is. It is our probably our biggest event

2146
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 10: for the public. We also do have Schwaben fest that's

2147
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 10: in but yeah, and we draw a lot of people

2148
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 10: to that now too, and it's becoming more and more popular.

2149
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 10: But we have dances throughout the year, traditional dances that

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01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 10: kind of keeps the culture alive. One of the probably

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01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 10: most tradition know we have is the Kirkfi Dance, and

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01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 10: that's actually coming up in the next couple of weeks.

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01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 10: It's it's like a festival, yeah, and they take the

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01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 10: the tradition of it was for like a married couple

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01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 10: and they ta have the rosemary bush and what was it?

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01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 3: Like?

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01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 4: The was it? The was it?

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01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: The man would Oh, I remember talking about this with

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01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 1: the woman. The woman right, it's sort of symbolic, Yeah.

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01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 4: It was.

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 10: It's like a symbolic thing. And then the woman's family

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01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 10: would then you know, have everybody back and then have

2163
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 10: a big party for it, you know, for the engaged couple.

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, we then served as an excuse for yet another.

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01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 10: Party, for another party of course, of course, but it's

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01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 10: really kind of cool. They take this rosemary bush and

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01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 10: they decorate it and then in the middle of the

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01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 10: dance we auction it off, you know, so whoever you

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01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 10: know wants to make a bid and then the highest

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 10: bidder gets the gets the Rosemary bush underd Yeah.

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01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,679
Speaker 1: Well, clearly, as you point out, with these few vegamin

2172
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,799
Speaker 1: join because of the social element. A couple of listeners

2173
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 1: out there occasionally call them talk about it. Either're doing

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01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: square dancing over it, someway, I want to meet some woman. Yeah,

2175
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: go ahead, you want to meet somebody, you want to dance, Well,

2176
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 1: come join Donna Shrober And no you do not have

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01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: to be German.

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01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 3: No you do not.

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01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: We because I'm not right.

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01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 10: We invite everybody to come. It's and you'll feel very welcome.

2181
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 10: It's a very close knit community. But we're always open

2182
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 10: to having new people join.

2183
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And if you are a married man or involved

2184
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: in a relationship with another woman, watch out for the

2185
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: older German men. They do want to dance with your.

2186
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 10: Girl, Yes they do. They so don't get jealous.

2187
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 4: No no, no, no no.

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01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 1: Somebody's always asking my wife to dance. He's got her

2189
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: Derndel and she uses these occasions to wear it and

2190
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: she looks really pretty. Oh, speaking of Drndall's women's dress,

2191
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: and you've got yours on, very very beautiful. The Donna

2192
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: Schrobin region you speak of, and I kind of learned this.

2193
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 4: From the.

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01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: The shoots and folks. The types of leader hos and

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01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 1: differ by region. Am I accurate on that because the

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01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I was wearing I was given a pair of leader

2197
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: hose and I was wearing the wrong ones for that

2198
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:04,919
Speaker 1: read you don't have the right leaders.

2199
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 10: That is true. But and later hosen technically is definitely

2200
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 10: more German than Schwaben, like our traditional male costume is

2201
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 10: that's what Nathan. Yes, the black vest, black pants with

2202
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 10: a white shirt, that's the more traditional Schwaben attire. Later Yeah,

2203
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,959
Speaker 10: later hosen is more of a German whereas the Schwaben

2204
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 10: are German speaking people, but not all of them are

2205
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 10: from Germany, so gotchache. But you know, we welcome later

2206
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 10: hosen too.

2207
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell people don't wear them. No,

2208
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity dust them off. You only have

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: once a year where you're gonna break them out, right.

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01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 10: So where you're where, you're later hosing two. But yeah,

2211
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 10: I think there are different types of later hosen for

2212
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 10: different regions.

2213
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, well we'll pause, We'll bring back the Dona

2214
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: Schaubin folks here, chip Amy, Ben, Nathan and Wally talk

2215
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more about the food and what

2216
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 1: else is all because you've got some great music going on.

2217
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to find out if the uh, the children's

2218
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,200
Speaker 1: dance group is going to be there as well, because

2219
01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: those that's so cute to see that music. I sort

2220
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: of like the music. You're going to be here in

2221
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: this weekend. Uh, it's time for the Donna Schwaben october Fest.

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01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: It begins today six pm. Uh, get in there and

2223
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 1: get your Commuti kite on experienced German festivities and of

2224
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: course German fellowship, and you don't have to be German

2225
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: to do it.

2226
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 4: Just enjoy the fun, all right.

2227
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: I waxed poetic about the sausage, but you were kind

2228
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: enough to anticipate my wife's hope and dreams of bringing

2229
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: me in an entire struddle homemade. Do you guys make this?

2230
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: I have this vision of old German women, you know,

2231
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 1: handmaking in the back room. It's yeah, it's accurate.

2232
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 10: The do out, I mean it's my mom.

2233
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 1: Come in closer to a microphone, my friend. I know

2234
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you like to pace, but.

2235
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 10: Until her shoulder is about to fall off, she will roll.

2236
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 1: You know what, what's just look at it?

2237
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: This way.

2238
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in an atmosphere where everybody's encouraging a

2239
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of exercise. So it's exercise, it is, yes, yes,

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01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 1: and it's exercise that brings something that's born of love,

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: and it tastes.

2242
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 10: Awesome and you can taste the love they put into that.

2243
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: I know some commercial bakers make some great strude, but

2244
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: the idea that it was handmade makes it that much

2245
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: more special. That's that's why I'm emphasizing that exactly. So

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01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: we'll have strudel, we will have uh, the the the

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01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: shrub and sausage. What else is going to be served?

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01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 10: Gosh, lots of food. We have homemade gulash dinners we

2249
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 10: have they do the pit roasted pigs and chicken. Yes,

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01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 10: that's delicious. We have what else we got there?

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01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 17: Well, so you mentioned everything. We also have stuffed cabbage,

2252
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 17: We have gulash, our famous gulash with Spetsila noodles. Oh well,

2253
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 17: of course, we have our homemade torrets and pastries in

2254
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 17: addition to this strudel, and we got funnel cakes geta

2255
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 17: of course, and so much more.

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01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: As it says, so much more, and it's fun, and

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01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: there is an indoor air conditioned area. You're sight therea.

2258
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:11,160
Speaker 10: Yes, maybe it gets too hot too humid for somebody. Yes,

2259
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 10: we have an indoor, a larger hall in a small hall. Yeah,

2260
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 10: that they could kind of escape the heat.

2261
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Now, going into the break, I mentioned the young people.

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01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: That's the young group.

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01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 10: We have the youth group, but then you also have

2264
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 10: the client of kinder. Those are the the little little ones.

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01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:29,760
Speaker 3: They are.

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01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 1: So Nathan's over here, he's part of the young group

2267
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 1: of thirteen. Yes, and he can dance maybe, but you know,

2268
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: it's not cute when Nathan dances, right, it's not an

2269
01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: insult Nathan. Once you get over a certain height or age,

2270
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: it's not it's not cute. It's talent or it's fun

2271
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 1: to watch. But the little kids are what are so

2272
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 1: special because oh my god.

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01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 10: And they start about well four, but some of them

2274
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 10: are even around three, three to four when they start

2275
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 10: dancing up until about a yes, and then they go

2276
01:59:01,480 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 10: to the middle group. Then they graduate to the young group, right,

2277
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 10: and then they're just displaying talent.

2278
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: You can call it cute if you want, but that's

2279
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:09,839
Speaker 1: a subjected the termination.

2280
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 10: But you will still see our shoe blotler's dance. Those

2281
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 10: are our our grown up folk that have kind of

2282
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 10: graduated from youth group. And then there's also our Trocton group,

2283
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 10: which group that's for the more.

2284
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 1: Mature, all the ones that are hidden on my wife. Yes, yes, yeah, gotcha,

2285
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: you're out there.

2286
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:27,720
Speaker 4: We know you.

2287
01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: And Strucker's children were in the children's.

2288
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 10: Dance group when they remember they were Yeah, they were.

2289
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: Struck Rovouchport all day long. How about music? Usually have

2290
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 1: some some good, good good German music.

2291
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 17: Oh, you know we do, Brian, You've been there as

2292
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 17: our chairman before and you see what we bring. And

2293
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 17: we bring the best German American talent musicians right here

2294
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 17: in the region. Uh So, tonight we kick it off

2295
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 17: with the Pharians Music Kanton Bend. Of course, we're well

2296
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,839
Speaker 17: known Octoberfest band, one of the large.

2297
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: Back they're sold out world tour right and.

2298
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 17: They'll be there tonight in the Hall of You've got

2299
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 17: the Polka Warriors, they're gonna be here this weekend. You

2300
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 17: have Dieter and Hans, the Ryan Golduel from Louisville, Kentucky.

2301
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,160
Speaker 17: You're gonna be here. We've got the Air Inducing Band

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02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:19,800
Speaker 17: from Cleveland, Ohio. They're gonna be here. We got Steve

2303
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 17: Owen music. He's gonna be here from Louisville, Kentucky as well.

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02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,680
Speaker 17: And then we got this little little band called alpen

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02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 17: Echoes and they're gonna be yeah. And I know those

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02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 17: guys are those guys, I know them all, so you know,

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02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 17: uh they we'll be there all three days.

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02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: The Polka Warriors. I have this sort of vision of

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02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 1: like you know, the Sharks and the Jets, or maybe

2310
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 1: that scene in Anchorman with the different news teams fight

2311
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 1: it out. You know, you got one polka group over there,

2312
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 1: you got the other.

2313
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 17: One black leather jackets, and later hosting these.

2314
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Sports specific colors like and you see the green Oh

2315
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: that's a Polka Warrior. Don't mess with that guy?

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02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 4: All right?

2317
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: Well again it's a Cincy with why donn O'Dell and

2318
02:00:57,680 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: au dot com get all the details right there, it's

2319
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 1: right on the front page. Just Stuckers made it so

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02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: easy to do a fifty five cars dot com The

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02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: address again, could we hand that out for our listeners

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02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 1: thy New Whorreth.

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Speaker 17: Sure, forty two to ninety dry Ridge Road, that's right

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02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 17: off of col Ran Avenue and we got of course.

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Speaker 17: Festival starts today six pm eleven pm Saturday, Tomorrow, October fourth,

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02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 17: from a one pm to eleven pm. Sunday the fifth

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02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 17: from ten am to eight o'clock pm. And as far

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02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:28,000
Speaker 17: as parking, we do have on site and convenient shuttle

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02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 17: parking from ABC Daycare, Saint John dry Ridge Church Schools

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02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 17: available parking Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And we just added

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02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 17: Coleraine Elementary School that's located forty eight to fifty Pool

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02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 17: Road for shuttle parking on Friday and Saturday only. And

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02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 17: the event and mission is only five dollars per person.

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02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 4: So there you go.

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02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: That's a bargain, great a bargain at double the price.

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Speaker 10: A shout out to just to our Grand Marshall who's

2337
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 10: going to be there, Eric Debroca. He's a meteorologist twelve,

2338
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 10: so he's going twelve and we're looking forward to him

2339
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 10: coming to and helping us all.

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02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Guess you did a shout out. You don't

2341
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 1: need to ask my permission. He'd asked my permission, I

2342
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 1: would say no to curse on the fifty five cares

2343
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 1: you want to you beyond that, you can say it

2344
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 1: to hell they want you're in the studio. Well tip

2345
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Amy Ben Nathan and Wally, thank you so much for

2346
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Speaker 1: coming in. Thank you for the delivery of the wonderful

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Speaker 1: we don't do that here. But we'll see you this weekend. Folks,

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Speaker 1: hear from changing. Try to make it a happy Friday,

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Speaker 1: and by way of relativity, may find out your Friday

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Speaker 1: is going much better than you anticipated because you didn't

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Speaker 1: live the rather tragic life of my next guest, Rebecca Lafferty,

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Speaker 1: who's joined the Proger to talk about her new book,

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Speaker 1: The Lafferty Girl Surviving Trauma, Abuse and My Father's Crimes,

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Speaker 1: a Mormon Daughter's Story. Rebecca, welcome to the fifty five

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Speaker 1: Cassy Morning Show. It's a pleasure having you on today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's pleasure well, and I say pleasure knowing full well

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Speaker 1: your experience as a child, which you write about in

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Speaker 1: this book. Your father was a rather troubled individual and

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Speaker 1: that may be an understatement from your perspective, you can

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Speaker 1: elaborate on that. Let my listeners know about you and

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Speaker 1: I guess around seven years old, you're apparently your dad

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Speaker 1: got radicalized in a certain way. Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Let my listeners know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, my father he was you know, he was

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Speaker 6: raised in kind of a strict household himself, and so

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Speaker 6: he raised us kids very very strict. He was LDS.

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Speaker 6: We followed it to the to the t, you know.

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Speaker 6: He tried to do everything to the t. And what

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Speaker 6: that was like for me as a child was very

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of violence in our home, and I

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Speaker 6: would say correction was over.

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Speaker 3: The top for a child.

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Speaker 6: And he also believed that women should be underneath the mail.

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Speaker 6: They are not to be respected or have a voice

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Speaker 6: or opinions. Really, so there was always fights because my

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Speaker 6: mom was a very strong thirded woman. Yeah, and this

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Speaker 6: just led to a lot of Like I said, I

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Speaker 6: just saw a lot of violence and experienced it myself

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Speaker 6: growing up with my father and then at seven him

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Speaker 6: going to prison and finding out what had happened later on.

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Speaker 6: It really affected that kind of snowball and affected my

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Speaker 6: life and the relationships.

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Speaker 1: There on the way you described the it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of day saints that the church that sounds like it

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Speaker 1: has a lot of parallels to fundamentalism, Islam and Sharia law.

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Speaker 1: Is that a safe or comparable thing a parallel?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think anything that you take to an extreme,

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Speaker 6: you know, I guess you could compare them. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean it was there was no color. It was

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Speaker 6: black or white, there was nothing really in between. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that was my experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you said he ended up in prison, and let

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Speaker 1: my listeners know how exactly he ended up in prison

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Speaker 1: and not just regular prison, two life sentences.

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Speaker 6: Him all right, correct, Yeah, he took the life of

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Speaker 6: my aunt and her baby, my baby cousin. That's the

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Speaker 6: filling you know, uh prophecy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he killed them related to his faith in some

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Speaker 1: twisted perception. Specifically, what's the connection between the real religious

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Speaker 1: fundamentalism and their death?

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Speaker 6: They were well, he was excommunicated from the Eldience Church

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Speaker 6: and then him and his brothers started creating their own

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Speaker 6: church or you know, doing their own thing where it

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Speaker 6: was called the School of Prophets, and so they are

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Speaker 6: all profits in the school. The oldest had of revelation

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Speaker 6: that that this aunt of mine needed to be removed,

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Speaker 6: and that my father was the off of He was

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Speaker 6: the hand of God, and so therefore that was his role.

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Speaker 6: And in their twistedness, made.

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Speaker 1: Sense to that bit of a red flag for an

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Speaker 1: adult in this world. But as a child of I mean,

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Speaker 1: you didn't, you couldn't speak out against it. And I suppose,

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Speaker 1: given how young you were, you had no basic comparison,

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Speaker 1: no world experience, being hidden from the rest of the

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Speaker 1: world in your home, and how would you know. I

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Speaker 1: guess you were either forced to believe him or you

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Speaker 1: actually believe what he was saying. Rebeca am I right

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a part of me that always you know,

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Speaker 6: obviously my father. I look up to him, I trust him,

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Speaker 6: I adored my father, and there was also a part

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Speaker 6: of me that was fearful of him, and I didn't

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Speaker 6: trust everything he said, the.

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Speaker 1: Typical child reaction. I suppose at least that part was typical.

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Speaker 1: You know, I my children didn't always listen to what

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Speaker 1: I had to say. So this is a completely autobiographical book.

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Speaker 1: What what prompted you to write this? Because you talk

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Speaker 1: about your struggles and the emotions and everything you went through,

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Speaker 1: and then also you talk about when he reached out

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Speaker 1: to you from prison, which I want to ask you about.

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Speaker 1: But what was the compelling reason for writing The Lafferty Girl.

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Speaker 6: Well, I had somebody that I really admire and trust

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Speaker 6: to recommended that I write my story, and when she talks,

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Speaker 6: I listen, and so I felt, you know, once I

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Speaker 6: get enough of my inner healing work and I was

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Speaker 6: able to get to a place where I could speak

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Speaker 6: from hope and not just the pain, I knew it

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Speaker 6: was time to tell my story.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, him reaching out to me from prison was it

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Speaker 6: was healing. That was part of the healing process. He

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Speaker 6: took accountability for some of the things that how he

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Speaker 6: was as a father with me. He's never acknowledged that

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Speaker 6: what he's done is wrong. He still holds very very

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Speaker 6: strongly to that he is a prophet and that he

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Speaker 6: is here to fulfill a whole.

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Speaker 1: Did you when you How old were you when he

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Speaker 1: when he reached out to you from prison, because you

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Speaker 1: know that that's on the cover materials too. Obviously that

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Speaker 1: was a very profound moment in your life. But how

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Speaker 1: old were you.

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Speaker 4: At that time?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: So I stayed in communication with him for a while.

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Speaker 6: We had written we would write back and forth, but

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Speaker 6: then there was a period where I had not heard

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Speaker 6: from him, and then the book Under the Banner of

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Speaker 6: Heaven had come out, and so there was a really

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Speaker 6: long gap, and I would have been thirty five maybe

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Speaker 6: when we reconnected.

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Speaker 1: So when he's still clinging to this idea that he's

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Speaker 1: a prophet at age thirty five and now capable as

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Speaker 1: an adult reflecting back on your childhood understanding what abuse

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Speaker 1: is and is not. Did you call him out on it?

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Speaker 1: By any change? You said? You know, are you serious

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Speaker 1: about this profit stuff? I mean that I'm Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of the thing, the in conversation I

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Speaker 1: would engage in if it was my dad calling me

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Speaker 1: from prison. You know, I wouldn't pull any punches. I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of wondering, given the delicacy of the situation,

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Speaker 1: if if you engaged in a process back and forth

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Speaker 1: about that concept, you know.

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Speaker 6: I think, I just know I still carried some there

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02:09:08,920 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 6: around that idea. You would always talk about it. I

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Speaker 6: just didn't want to hear it coming from his lips.

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Speaker 6: That would just I don't know, it was just another

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02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 6: level of reality. I just do not want to go

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Speaker 6: with you to with him.

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Speaker 1: See those are words I can hear coming out of

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Speaker 1: my mouth if I was having this conversation my dad.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this crap dad, that's anyway.

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Speaker 1: So who did you write? I mean, obviously it's cathartic

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Speaker 1: to write a book about this. Get it out of

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Speaker 1: your system, and many people recommends therapists and psychologists like

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02:09:36,440 --> 02:09:38,760
Speaker 1: you know, write a journal, get it out of your system,

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02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:41,400
Speaker 1: put it on paper. It helps you understand your situation

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02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 1: and come to grips with your own reality. But you

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02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 1: obviously had an audience you're writing this too. Is this

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Speaker 1: for other people who struggle with abuse and are still

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Speaker 1: dealing with the scars as adults? Is it for women

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Speaker 1: in abusive relationships? Or I mean, it sounds to me

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Speaker 1: like there's a whole Schmorgas board of potential audience here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what who you had in mind when

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Speaker 1: you wrote it, other than yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really just well for all of that compassion

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Speaker 6: for the little girl, you know, compassion and love for

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Speaker 6: my family and the healing that I could bring, and

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Speaker 6: then for anyone that's carrying the silence of shame, and

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02:10:19,440 --> 02:10:21,880
Speaker 6: you know, just wanting to not feel alone. I wrote

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Speaker 6: this because I want people to know they are not alone.

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Speaker 1: It's a good message, it really, it truly is. And

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Speaker 1: you alluded to under the Banner of Heaven in your

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Speaker 1: comments earlier, that's an FX Hulu series And is that

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Speaker 1: still out there that someone did a documentary about your

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Speaker 1: father and the crimes he perpetrated.

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Speaker 6: Correct, John Kracker was the He wrote a book under

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Speaker 6: the v R sasan He interviewed with my father as

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Speaker 6: he wrote it, and then Hulu did a series on it.

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Speaker 1: Did they interview you for that? I'm just don't wonder

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Speaker 1: what your reaction is.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm just with what my emotions might be if someone's

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Speaker 1: going to do a series about my father, How did

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Speaker 1: you take that?

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Speaker 6: They never asked, they didn't interview anybody from the family.

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Speaker 6: In fact, a lot of it is there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of fictitious stuff that they've all went into that Hulu

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Speaker 6: series and that's how they got around that.

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Speaker 1: Well, another reason to write the book to set the

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Speaker 1: record straight about what you, Rebecca Lafferty, dealt with with

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Speaker 1: him being your father. Well, again, the name of the

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Speaker 1: book of the Lafferty Girls Surviving trauma abuse in my

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Speaker 1: father's crimes, a Mormon daughter's story. We've made it really

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Speaker 1: easier for my listeners to get a copy of Rebecca

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker. My producers put it on a blog page

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Speaker 1: fifty five krs dot com with the link to the

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02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 1: site where they can buy it, which all encouraged them

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Speaker 1: to do. And for those out there maybe dealing with

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02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 1: similar circumstances or struggles, or maybe you got a friend

2537
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 1: or relative that's in this, get a copy of the

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02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 1: help maybe help them heal as well. Rebecca, I can't

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Speaker 1: thank you enough for spending this time with my listeners

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Speaker 1: and me this morning, and for putting this all on

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Speaker 1: paper on fifty five krc talk station. Hey, fifty fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station. Important message following wonderful world. Indeed,

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02:12:29,120 --> 02:12:33,080
Speaker 1: just look at the right place. You quite often don't

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Speaker 1: have to search for reasons to call it a wonderful world. Kevin,

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02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Brian tamache Forte. In a while, unfortunately I haven't

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02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:43,240
Speaker 7: been able to listen to you guys in a while,

2548
02:12:43,720 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 7: but I wanted to get your take on what is

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02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 7: happening as far as the political prosecutions or and the

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02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 7: indictments and looming indictments. Just how far you think the

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02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:58,480
Speaker 7: theo J should take these things and just wanted to

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02:12:58,520 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 7: get your opinion on it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they shouldake him as far as the

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Speaker 1: evidence allows them to. You need, of course, the elements

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Speaker 1: of a crime. Any responsible prosecutor in any you know,

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02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 1: state prosecutor's office or Department of Justice needs to get

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02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 1: all of its evidence in line, all of its facts

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02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 1: in a row, needs to cite a sound, solid complaint

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Speaker 1: against the individual based upon the criminal law, prove that

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Speaker 1: the elements are there, and move forward with the prosecution.

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02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this ain't rocket science, man, just because

2562
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:28,080
Speaker 1: it's high level stuff involving really really important people who

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02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:31,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't have engaged in behavior that they engaged in. If

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02:13:31,400 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 1: the documents that evidence are there, I say, pursue it.

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02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 4: Why not?

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02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 1: It's not lawfair. It is pursuing a legitimate criminal complaint.

2567
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 1: If you believe a crime has been committed, then you

2568
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 1: can look and see if the evidence supports your belief.

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02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 1: If it does, I think you have an obligation in

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02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: the American people to go after it. Why wouldn't you.

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02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, everyone's making this a big deal like, Oh,

2572
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 1: he's just retaliating, he's just getting his anger out. You know, well,

2573
02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 1: what the hell do they do to him?

2574
02:13:58,160 --> 02:13:58,840
Speaker 4: For four years?

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02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 1: And how to underw but circumstances, Kevin, did they do it?

2576
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 1: They did it under circumstances where they made up lies.

2577
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:10,760
Speaker 1: They made up the elements of crime on collusion and

2578
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:14,800
Speaker 1: involvement with Russians and foreign adversaries, all whole cloth, and

2579
02:14:14,880 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 1: then they used that to support the lies that they

2580
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:20,640
Speaker 1: perpetuated in the media for four years. What happened nothing.

2581
02:14:21,800 --> 02:14:23,360
Speaker 1: You didn't see Donald Trump go to jail. Now, you

2582
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, look at the prosecutions in New York in

2583
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 1: the nonsense upon which they predicated those alleged criminal activity,

2584
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 1: like this nonsense about him inflating the value of real estate.

2585
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:34,720
Speaker 1: He's dealing arm's length with banks who know what they

2586
02:14:34,800 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 1: are doing and know how to do a real estate

2587
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:40,600
Speaker 1: valuation analysis. Banks that weren't out any money, right, and

2588
02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 1: yet they nonetheless got a prosecution conviction. So yeah, make

2589
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 1: sure it's on reality, make sure it's on evidence if

2590
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 1: you've got it, and move forward with it. If you don't,

2591
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 1: don't lie to us and tell us you have the

2592
02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,600
Speaker 1: goods when you don't. That's my feelings, and that's I'm

2593
02:14:56,680 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 1: very firm on that, Kevin. I appreciate your call real

2594
02:15:01,360 --> 02:15:03,240
Speaker 1: quick care and I want to thank my one of

2595
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,160
Speaker 1: my listeners out there. Something me meme. I was going

2596
02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:09,240
Speaker 1: off on a terror this morning on higher education, predicated

2597
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 1: on this argument about this this article about Harvard Law

2598
02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:16,760
Speaker 1: or Harvard hiring someone named Lahore Vadgistan who's a transit

2599
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:21,800
Speaker 1: or rather a I guess a transgender performer. It's a

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02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:25,440
Speaker 1: guy who dresses up like a woman and an obscene

2601
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 1: comic book version of a boufont hairdoo. Nonetheless, this person

2602
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:33,520
Speaker 1: is going to be teaching classes in rupe politics. That

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02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 1: will be the Rue Paul show, you know, familiar with

2604
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:40,160
Speaker 1: the drag race. His class route politics, drag race and desire.

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02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:44,360
Speaker 1: He'll also be teaching queer ethnography, whatever the hell that means.

2606
02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 1: So it's one thing to look at the picture of

2607
02:15:47,560 --> 02:15:49,919
Speaker 1: this guy and roll your eyes and go Lord Almighty.

2608
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:55,040
Speaker 1: But being who I am, I don't care. I mean

2609
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:56,600
Speaker 1: to be a red flag my kids thinking I go

2610
02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:59,400
Speaker 1: to Harvard University where the tuition is three I think

2611
02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: I read looked it up this morning. It's like three

2612
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:05,040
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars an hour. Now think about that.

2613
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 4: Do the math.

2614
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:07,920
Speaker 1: You're sitting in a classroom with thirty thirty young people,

2615
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 1: all of whom are paying three thousand, or their parents

2616
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 1: or they went into dad to sit in a Roue

2617
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: Paul class, learn about Rue Paul, learn about drag queens,

2618
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:20,880
Speaker 1: and pay three thousand, four hundred dollars an hour for it.

2619
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: So there's that insult, but the more important point, and

2620
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 1: I want to thank the listener. John wrote me this

2621
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 1: morning after I went on a tear about college education

2622
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 1: generally that there is even a class called real politics drag,

2623
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:40,560
Speaker 1: race and desire that will not benefit benefit anyone under

2624
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:44,760
Speaker 1: any circumstances in terms of generating income, feeding yourself, housing yourself,

2625
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:48,880
Speaker 1: closing yourself. I made fun of myself for taking a

2626
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:52,000
Speaker 1: music appreciation class. I only took it because the college

2627
02:16:52,640 --> 02:16:55,200
Speaker 1: mandata that I take a certain number of whatever they

2628
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:57,840
Speaker 1: called that liberal arts classes in order to get a

2629
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:01,400
Speaker 1: political science degree. What does music appreciation have to do

2630
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 1: with political science? Absolutely nothing. I was going to law school.

2631
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:06,840
Speaker 1: Why do I need to sit in a music appreciation class? Well?

2632
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:08,520
Speaker 1: I did because it was an easy a and it

2633
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:14,800
Speaker 1: was well fun. You just sat there so strongly consider

2634
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:17,280
Speaker 1: what your children are taking, and strongly consider the reality

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Speaker 1: of just that point.