1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Freddy Faller joining us here on the Kway Common Spirit 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Health Hotline. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: So, Benny, how are you man? 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: What's up, my friend? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Fantastic? I appreciate you giving us 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: a few minutes. By the way, I really loved your 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: conversation this week with Justin Simmons, and then of course 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: you do a wonderful job with our own Dave Logan 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: every single week on your show on DMVR. 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 4: Man. 11 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: Really good stuff this week. 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, justin the natural. It was good 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: to just have a conversation with. 14 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 4: Him and dive more. You know, Dave and I are 15 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: always offensive guys and always talking about the quarterback and 16 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 4: receivers and catching the ball. But it was good to 17 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: just get know understanding from Justin about this defense because 18 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: he's played in this defense. 19 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: He's played under Sean and just it was great. 20 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: I thought he did a great job, no doubt about it. 21 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, so, I was thinking about 22 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: this in terms of we get these comps back to 23 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen team, And of course there's some similarities 24 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: in that belief within the locker room, I guess, right, 25 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: and the ability to close games and different people showing 26 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: up and finding way to close out of the season, 27 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: inconsistent offensive play, elite defense, those kinds of things. 28 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: I want to know from somebody that was in that room, though. 29 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Is that something you guys talked about, like from a 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: culture standpoint or was just something that you kind of 31 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: had and you sort of believed in and we're maybe 32 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: seeing a little bit of that right now, you. 33 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: Know, Ryan, that's a really good question. I'd be lying 34 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: if I say I. 35 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: Said I knew because I was so young in my career. 36 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: That was only my second year in the league. So 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: I kind of thought that, yeah, going into every game, 38 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: any game that you have Peyton Manning as the quarterback, 39 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: you believe, and then Peyton goes down. 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: We have Rock step in. 41 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: But the talent was so elite around him that I 42 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: didn't really think anything of it. I was so processed 43 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: driven during that time because all I cared about was 44 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: really my assignment and not messing up to play and 45 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: doing what I had to do on special teams. 46 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: I knew the team was special, but you know. 47 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: It was, it'd be I can't say that I had 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 4: a real understanding of what was actually going on. My 49 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: first year. We were twelve and four, and then we 50 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: ended up going twelve and four my second year and 51 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 4: ended up winning it all. 52 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: So it was more so of just really an understanding 53 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: of I just knew I was. 54 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 4: Playing with really really good players like you know in 55 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: Tleeve and TJ. Ward and Darian Stewart and Bradley Roby 56 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: was a first round pick, and then you have like 57 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: Tamarus and Emanuel and you know, at this time we 58 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: had already traded we had traded for Bernon Davis. So 59 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: you just there were all pros, regardless if Peyton was 60 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: on the field or not. 61 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: So I just knew that we were really talented. 62 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: In the defense was extremely great. 63 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of parallels between that Super Bowl 64 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: team and the roster as we see it now. And 65 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 5: for me, the defense is doing a lot of heavy lifting, 66 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 5: but we're seeing the offense slowly and gradually starting. 67 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: To come along. 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: And Ryan, I was talking before you joined us, and 69 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: the question became, well, the Broncos added a wide receiver, 70 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 5: why did they not add a running back? Do you 71 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: think that the Broncos are okay at the running back position? 72 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 5: And would you think about the Broncos adding a running back? 73 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, I thought the Broncos did try to add. 74 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: The running back that end up choosing the Chiefs, so 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: I know they did try to add them. You know, 76 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: I would try to add a running back, but I 77 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: think Sean now is going to go and lean heavy 78 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: on the graded screen game. 79 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: By the Broncos Broncos Country, but you know they're going 80 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: to lean on the short, quick passes. 81 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: I think JK. Dobbins being out will now help him 82 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: really utilize Evan Ingram in the short passing game and 83 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: become that target right there. I think adding Elijah Moore 84 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: was more so for depths and you know, you saw 85 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: Marvin miss a couple of games and how that was 86 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: just a huge detriment to the Broncos offense in terms 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: of the return game and then also the gadget game. 88 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: So adding him. 89 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Just you know, as you know, insurance to the offense 90 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: is I think. 91 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: The thinking there. But yet maybe there is a running 92 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: back out there that can just you know, be a 93 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: bruiser or you know, short yarded situations. I would think 94 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: they would add that maybe in the next week or so. 95 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: You want to make sure that they get up to 96 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 4: speed in terms of the playbook and whatever their packages are, 97 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: But I think Sean. 98 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: Is really comfortable with the roster going forward and JK. 99 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: Being out is bad. But you saw that Evan Ingram 100 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 4: picked up tremendously in this last game. 101 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about your guy Evan Ingram? 102 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: He looked really good out there and I'd like to 103 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: see a little bit more from him, so very quickly 104 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: on that, and I do want to get back to 105 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: sort of the parallels. But Elijah Moore in your opinion, 106 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I know he's coming into this very late, so whatever 107 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: impact he might have might be months or whatnot months 108 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: but weeks from now? 109 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that's bad news for anybody? 110 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to create controversy where it's not warranted. 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Is that bad news for any receiver that's currently starting. 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: I don't think it's bad news for anybody. I think 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: this is more of a depth option. And yeah, I 114 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: don't think he's coming in to replace anybody. I think 115 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: this is more Okay, we need a if something were 116 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: to happen to Marvin, who is our backup returner? Now 117 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: that where we need explosive. We need an explosive in 118 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: the return game or who's our gadget guy in the 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: jet sweeps if something were to happen to Marvin. 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: I think this receiving core is has been solid and. 121 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: Will continue to be solid throughout the rest of the 122 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: season and into the postseason. But I think it's just. 123 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: He's the only person now that you've added to the 124 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: roster that. 125 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: Has the Martu Men's body type. 126 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: We're joined by Betty Fowler. 127 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the question I kind 128 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 1: of brought you in here for at the beginning, because 129 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I remember during that twenty fifteen season, there's. 130 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: A lot of doubts. 131 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of doubt that you guys could continue 132 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: to win the way you were And I don't know 133 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: if you guys heard any of that outside of the 134 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: building or even talked about it inside the building, but that. 135 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Was the discussion. 136 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: So that for me is like one of those like, well, 137 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: they can't keep doing it, yet they keep doing it. 138 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 1: Can the Broncos, as constituted with what they have right now, 139 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: continue this into the postseason? Is this a formula kind 140 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: of like what you guys had. Is this a formula 141 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: for success even in the postseason? 142 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it is a formula for success in 143 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: the postseason. I think you know, When the postseason came 144 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: around for us, you know, Peyton ended up coming back 145 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: and you know what he was able to do with 146 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: his mind at the line of scrimmage. You know, we 147 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: scored some points against the Steelers and the Patriots, and 148 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: you know, defense obviously did their thing against Carolina, but 149 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: Peyton was just he got us into the right play 150 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 4: and you know, kept us into positive plays. 151 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: I think the Broncos can win with this. 152 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: I think the offense did a tremendous job last weekend 153 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: in you know, scoring twenty seven points or and and 154 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: moving the ball. I thought they did a better job 155 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: against Kansas City. 156 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, they're winning close games. 157 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: But I think the offenses getting ready to hit their 158 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: stride and will continue to get better. As long as 159 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: they continue to hit that intermediate passing. 160 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: Game, I think there's I think they can win like this. 161 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: You think right now where their offense is currently constructed 162 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: from a scheme standpoint, the Broncos are going to hit 163 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: that stride. But for me, I think there's there's more 164 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: to this offense because the players, and one in particular, 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: Marvin Mahams, I don't believe is being utilized as much 166 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: as he should and the way that he can based 167 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: on his skill set. Are you of the frame of 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: mind that Marvin Mahams and the team lack of utilization 169 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 5: of him, Is that okay? 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Or you want to see more? 171 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: I'd like to see more because I mean, he's just 172 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: so explosive, Like. 173 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: You said, Nick, I mean, he just you know, there's 174 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: nobody in the receiver room with his skill set. So 175 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: I would like to see more. 176 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: But what is that every time I say. 177 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: That, what does that look like? And who is that 178 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: taking targets away from you know, Courtland? 179 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: And I think deserves more. 180 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: Targets as well. Evan does, and you saw what he 181 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: was able to do. Troy Franklin does so, and then 182 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: Pat Bryant is as of late as coming on and 183 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: becoming one of Bose's favorite targets. So I think, where 184 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: does it really come into play and how does he 185 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: get more targets? 186 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it is what goes back to what we saw. 187 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: Later on in the year last year, what he does 188 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: get in the backfield a little bit, and he does 189 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: get some handoffs or some carries or some pitches, so 190 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: and he gets some carries. 191 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: So maybe that's a way. But you know, right now, 192 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: It's just they. 193 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: Got a lot of weapons that they're trying to get 194 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: the ball to and you know where does that come 195 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: into play? And also I think the more the Broncos 196 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: can sustain drives, the more opportunities he'll have to get 197 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: the ball. 198 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, daal, last one I have where you always appreciate 199 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the time. Man, I just want to get your sense. 200 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: I asked Dave and Nick this earlier, like what kind 201 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: of Raiders team are the Broncos going to be facing? 202 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: They officially were eliminated from playoff contention. Again it's to 203 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: and ten. That doesn't really surprise you. But but you know, 204 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: you got maybe Max Crosby looks like he was not 205 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: practicing today. It's possibility that he's a little bit ify 206 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: for this game. Sometimes it's division games, you chance to 207 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: play spoiler. But when things have been this bad, you 208 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: wonder if if the Broncos are really actually gonna see 209 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: any kind of desperation from this Raiders team, or maybe 210 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: they show up and they're just kind of like, man, 211 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: this season is brutal, We're kind of done with it. 212 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: You'll see desperation in the first quarter or first half 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: of the first quarter. In the first couple of drives. 214 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: You know, when I was playing in New York, we 215 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: were playing on some pretty bad teams. 216 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: And I remember we played Chicago the. 217 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: Year that they got them. I don't know if it 218 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: was the number one seed, but they went twelve and 219 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: four and they had that home playoff game. But I 220 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: was at the Giants and we beat them. We beat 221 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: them in New York, and that was a really good 222 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: Chicago team. You know, Alan Robinson pro bowler that year, 223 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: and Miss Trubisky was playing really well at that time, 224 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 4: and they had that incredible defense and we beat them. 225 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: But we did trick plays and reverse passes, and I think, 226 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 4: you know, if the game is somewhat close in that 227 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: first quarter, you will see a desperate team out of 228 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: the Raiders, and they would love to spoil the Broncos, especially, 229 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: you know, beating them with the division game and then 230 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: also messing up the chances at the number one seed overall. 231 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: So the Raiders would love to do that. But I 232 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: think if it doesn't happen in the first quarter, then 233 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, these guys already have their cars shift home 234 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: and have already planned their vacations to Chacabo or wherever 235 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: it may be. You know I've been in that situation before. Nick. 236 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if you have, but you know I 237 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: plan my vacation for right. 238 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: Up the week after the season was over, when you 239 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: know you're not making it to the playoffs. Right. 240 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 5: Well, no, No, I've never been in that situation. And 241 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 5: the reason I say that. 242 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 3: Lucky for you. 243 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a lot of that plan for the 244 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: Denver Broncos, but really quickly since you played the wide 245 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 5: receiver position, and I've been going back and forth with 246 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: Commander's fans all on but on two videos that put up. 247 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: Let's go through the whole idea of pick plays right, 248 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: because there's a nuance that comes along with it in 249 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: the ability to run it the right way. But from 250 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 5: what I saw this past game with the Broncos, Deebo 251 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 5: Samuels and Trenlon Burts, they were not running routes. They 252 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: actually ran at Tylenohafunga on that last two point play. 253 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: Break it down. 254 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: You know, for our listeners, what's a good pick and 255 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 5: rub play? 256 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: What isn't? 257 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: So you were talking about that last two playing version 258 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 3: that Nino did this swat, I mean I thought. 259 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: It was an incredible play. I think you know we 260 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: were doing. I was doing a watch along and knew 261 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: that they were going to do the running back high 262 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: just based on for the motion all the way from 263 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: the wide side of the field to you know, the 264 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: short side of the field, and then it is basically 265 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: a mess concept with the running back sneaking out. Yeah, 266 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: I mean, if it's it depends on who they were 267 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: trying to pick. 268 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: But you can pick that guy at the line of 269 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: scrimmage who's trying to guard the running back. 270 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm all for pick plays. You know, 271 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: we had a lot of them. We had our our 272 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: college series playing with Peyton where we would run run 273 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: pick plays. And you know, your third, one, third, and 274 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: two has got to have the situations where we would 275 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: run pick plays. So yeah, I'm very familiar with with them. 276 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: I'm all for it. 277 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, you know, of course, the wide receiver. 278 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 5: That's why I asked the question, because you're a wide receiver, 279 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 5: of course, and there's no such thing as an illegal 280 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: pick correct. 281 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: No, they're in the in. 282 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: The NFL, Yeah, there is. You know, I think some 283 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: of these guys, I think I think this year Troy 284 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: Franklin got. 285 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: Called for where he didn't really run the route. You 286 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: got to make it look like a route. But I'm 287 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: all for the pick plays and getting people open. Even 288 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: when you were running, there are sometimes where you could 289 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: just run a simple drive concept with is which you know, 290 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: for the listeners out there, which is a drive, which 291 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: is a driver as a shallow and then you have 292 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: the basic. But if you know you're in a stack 293 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 4: formation and you've got man a man, and I'm on 294 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 4: the point and I'm running the basic, I used to 295 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: pick for a DT and E all the time and 296 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: still run. 297 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: My base grout there. I mean, just a certain way. 298 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: To run routes. I'm all four picking defenders, man, so 299 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: my guys can run free. 300 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Of course you are, Hey, if you you worried at 301 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: all about your your warriors, man, that's eleven eleven start, man, 302 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: it's not. 303 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, great you'll worries. 304 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: Not not great? Well, I would say I'm not worried. 305 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: I hope that they do well. 306 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: And get back to the playoffs. But I think you 307 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: know they're. 308 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: In this weird situation, you know Draymond's and year fourteen. 309 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: In the year seventeen, you have a. 310 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: You know, when do you bring in. 311 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 3: Somebody who you need another bonafide. 312 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Score next to him. Jimmy Butler is great and can 313 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 4: slow the game down. But you know, this is where 314 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: you miss Kevin Durant at you know, later at the end. 315 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: Of these guys career. But you know, I just I 316 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: hope that. 317 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: They're healthy, and I hope that you know, Steph gets 318 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: back on the court. 319 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: You know, the best entertainer in all sports. 320 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: But that's entertainer, best entertainer. 321 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: I would say, I guess entertainer's wrong words showman show yeah, 322 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: because I mean, don't get me wrong, Yokis is the 323 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: best player in the NBA by far right now, but yeah, 324 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: Steph Curry is more entertaining than Yoah, okay, all right, 325 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: that's all right, all right, you know that's true, all. 326 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well hey listen, man, I you know, 327 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: it would be weird in a postseason runs to not 328 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: have the Golden State Warriors involved. But here they are 329 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: at the eighth seed right now, looking up at a 330 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of very good teams in front of them. So 331 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Phoenix will be there 332 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: in the end, and that one I can see kind 333 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: of falling off. 334 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: But boy, thoughts on Okay, what's your thoughts on okay? 335 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 3: Seed liked, I just have a chance. Okay, See, looks 336 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: like they're they're about to break. 337 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: The Warriors record. 338 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: They're a wagon. 339 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't and they take the they take the regular 340 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: season so seriously. Like that's the thing about them is 341 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: like they they plan on if they can setting records, Like, 342 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: do you guys realize they are a plus fifteen point 343 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: three and point differential right now, Like they are blowing 344 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: everybody out and can. 345 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 5: Take this in consideration as well, They've played a lot 346 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: of these games and they haven't been really fully healthy. 347 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean the second most player, yes, on the 348 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: field or on the court. 349 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: That's that's mind boggling. 350 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: And here they. 351 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: Are just it's crazy. 352 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: It is crazy. Yeah, no, I mean you're right. The 353 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: Nuggets have their own issues, including winning at home. They've 354 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: lost four straight at home, which is weird. But yeah, 355 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: they I'm just like everybody who's living in Oklahoma City's world, 356 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have do you have any belief 357 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: in anybody else to go toe to toe with this team? 358 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: No? 359 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: Not right now. They're just younger, they have more camaraderie, 360 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: they have a better culture, than mostly everybody right now. 361 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: And I went to the Oklahoma City game oklahol Holma 362 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: City Warriors game in Oklahoma City and. 363 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: Talking with Draymond after. 364 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: I was like just acting him his thoughts and he 365 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: was like, it's crazy being on the other end of 366 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: it now because he's like, this is what we used 367 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: to do to people, right and now it's like he's like, 368 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: it's just waves of talented people. They enjoy playing with 369 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: each other, they enjoy being teammates, and they're really good, 370 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: and they're younger than everybody, which means they can just 371 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: they can play at any any pace, and if they 372 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: play at a speed up pace, there are not many 373 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: teams that are young enough to just keep up with them. 374 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: And he was like, it's just he's like, it's funny. 375 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: To be on the other end of it now because 376 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: that's exactly what they used to do to people. 377 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: They are either by far the best defense right and 378 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: we know that they're only giving up one hundred and 379 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: seven points per game. There isn't a single team in 380 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: the entire NBA that is even close to that. In fact, 381 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: there's even a single team that's unders one hundred and ten. 382 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I think the next closest and I'm looking at is 383 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: the Houston Rock. It's a one ten point three. But 384 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: that I mean, they're just again, I just don't see 385 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: a lot of flaws. But again that's why we played 386 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the game. Then I gets took them to seven last year. 387 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully they gave an opportunity to do that again. Always great, Benny, 388 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: You're the best. We really appreciate it. 389 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: Man, Ryan Nick, great to talk to you guys. 390 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: I appreciated Benning alright, any Fower