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Speaker 1: Tom can you see that playing out as I suggest

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Speaker 1: with Rogers and Howard and the draft pick?

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Speaker 2: I can definitely see that playing out exactly that way.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not surprised that the Steelers are entertaining

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Speaker 2: bringing Rogers back. I kind of thought that that is

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Speaker 2: how this would end up playing out. I suspected it

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Speaker 2: too very of the timing.

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Speaker 1: I just expect Jeremy Fowler to be reporting it after

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Speaker 1: seven weeks.

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Speaker 2: Of the season yet a season that's not gone that great.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're four and two, but they were supposed

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Speaker 1: to be five and one, and the last loss was

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Speaker 1: a disaster, albeit not to be blamed on the offense

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Speaker 1: or Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Right, But I didn't think this would be the fodder

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Speaker 2: in week eight of the season. And when you oh, no.

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Speaker 1: That part doesn't surprise me because all we do in

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Speaker 1: this years some worse.

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Speaker 2: Thomas talk about the quarterback the future of that position.

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Speaker 2: He's four and two right now, and he's played a

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Speaker 2: lot better than Justin Fields did last year. But they're

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Speaker 2: in the exact same spot that they were in with

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Speaker 2: Justin Fields last year through six games, four and two.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point four and two. I just don't

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Speaker 2: know why you have to do this, why you have

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Speaker 2: to engage in these conversations Jufreid. You're gonna lose him

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Speaker 2: if he decides to play again. You're gonna go somewhere

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Speaker 2: else like this can wait until the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Fobs getting this wrong. You don't get

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Speaker 2: much wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think this is clearly an internal discussion with the

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Speaker 1: Steelers leaning toward keeping Rogers, and.

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Speaker 2: They're just infatuated with him and the stability I've.

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Speaker 1: Been infatuated with with old timey you know, proven secure,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, stability over success.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they know they're having a winning round.

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Speaker 1: But then again, a forty one year old quarterback whose

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Speaker 1: body could and probably will disintegrate before seasons in, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that's exactly stability. It's stability in theory, it's

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Speaker 1: a proven commodity, but many a slip TwixT cup and lip,

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Speaker 1: and for that matter, between now and week one next season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I mean it could all blow up at

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Speaker 2: any time. One hit in his entire career could be

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Speaker 2: over it like that they suck What if they lose

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Speaker 2: like the next nine or ten games in a row.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they suck that bad. You think they

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Speaker 1: Oh, But I mean, but put it this way, I

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Speaker 1: think there's more potential for that than to win the

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Speaker 1: next nine or ten in a row.

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Speaker 2: True, because I don't think that they're that great, but

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Speaker 2: they're not. They're in the mushy middle. But and they

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Speaker 2: know Rogers will deliver that again next year if he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the goal is clearly, is to just

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Speaker 2: stay in that nine and eight, ten and seven stable rang.

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Speaker 1: I've said this many times, but it's worth repeating in

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Speaker 1: the wake of this news.

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Speaker 2: Art is an idiot, ton Win's an idiot. Con is

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Speaker 2: an idiot.

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Speaker 1: They're all idiots telling each other they're smart, and those

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Speaker 2: I mean, this move in particular is just so idiotic.

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Speaker 2: When you're in the thick of the AFC North Race

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Speaker 2: in the driver's seats, you should win it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think discussing it. I don't think the news

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Speaker 1: which is what this organization most needs. How do you

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Speaker 1: and they brought it in a ton of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how do you bring in all these new guys and

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Speaker 1: it still feels like exactly the same team with exactly

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Speaker 2: I know how I was just gonna say, you know

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Speaker 2: been the same, what's been the constant variable year after

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Speaker 1: They think he is infallible. He's like the black football pope.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good with the Rogers thing. I love how

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Speaker 2: he's played so far, but he hasn't proven anything. But

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing when you I can honestly say that

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking about a quarterback whose biggest attribute

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Speaker 1: saying he's an old guy who doesn't have that many

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, too, Mark, like he's moving really

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Speaker 2: well in the pocket, like against Cincinnati, he was dodging

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Speaker 1: There's a ridiculous statement, Tom, but no more ridiculous than

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Speaker 1: already talking about keeping Roger for next year. If they

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if I do disagree with that

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Speaker 1: But but we got some sound like people like like

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Speaker 2: Why why would anybody think this defense is gonna be better?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you assume that it's ancient. You

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Speaker 2: as the season wears on. That just doesn't track. They're

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Speaker 1: I still laugh at Cam saying this is unacceptable. Oh

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Speaker 2: But he won't. He stinks he's old. What's fading? You

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Speaker 2: know what?

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Speaker 1: They don't stink. That's a bad thing to say. They're

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Speaker 2: Not washed up, but fading. That's the right word, fading.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, we should have seen it coming

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Speaker 2: when I was telling him not to extend. What right?

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Speaker 2: But like the bounce back from.

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Speaker 1: That is the one hidden good thing about everything that's happening.

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Speaker 1: I am being proven like one thousand percent right about

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Speaker 1: everything I've said about the Steelers for years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the ald half for you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's still twenty nine. It's still very gratifying to see

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Speaker 1: Will Howard. The fans like him, Okay, we always I

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Speaker 2: To see this kid play.

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Speaker 1: People were crushed when he was injured and couldn't play

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, and that makes it easier for the

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Speaker 1: Steelers to climb themselves. Like I'm talking rot Keith Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: Groom Howard draft on defense of the line in the

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Speaker 2: What a stupid fan base? Then why do you like

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Speaker 2: Will Howard? What in the world would you be enamored

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Speaker 2: with him? Did you mean? Right? Like the right quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak very literally in this regard. I mean

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Speaker 2: he won a national championship at Ohio State. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: right for a reason? You know, I see you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: If everybody was wrong, then the Steelers were also wrong.

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Speaker 2: Five times a national championship quarterback from Ohio State goes

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Speaker 1: People a gonna say, all the Steeler true believers in

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Speaker 1: the media studes. Well, they didn't say they're keeping Rogers.

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Speaker 1: They might as well have. This didn't a period of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: and them wanting to keep him and choosing stability is

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Speaker 2: Here's the other reason why hitching your wagon to Will

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Speaker 2: Howard is so stupid. What clues you in that this

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Speaker 1: Well, now that said, here's my predicted order of what's

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, you're gonna have to draft a

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Speaker 2: Just plug him in and he's gonna play great because

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Speaker 2: like it's a defensive minded head coach, but he won't

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Speaker 1: You what, if I'm March Manning or or well Drew aller'

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Speaker 2: I think that they would stunt your growth instantly, and

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Speaker 2: there are so many other places that would be preferable.

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Speaker 2: So many other young coaches offensive mind gif like who's

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Speaker 2: the top quarterback right now because Arch Manning's into uh,

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Speaker 2: probably Feranando Mendoza, Indiana's quarterback. Mendoza. Yeah, it feels like

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Speaker 2: you think I might have gotten that name wrong. Feels

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Speaker 2: That is a shortstop name too. Mendoza is his last

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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza. I was right. I should have trusted myself.

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Speaker 2: There was something in the air that night. The moon's

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Speaker 2: so bright. Fernando.

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Speaker 1: No, if I were him, I would refuse to come

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Speaker 1: here like our like Eli Manning did with the San

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you on that he's gonna go number

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Speaker 2: one overall though probably so Steelers ain't getting that you

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Speaker 2: think that the Indiana quarterback's gonna go number one overall.

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Speaker 2: He's looking like the Heisman favorite right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is where I really pride myself on not

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Speaker 1: watching college football.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Jeremy Foller BSPN reporting that Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Uh is likely.

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Speaker 1: The return of the Steelers next year, at least that's

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Speaker 2: I'd give him play a B plus, which is plus?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's not a B plus. Now is Rogers?

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Speaker 2: I think he's more than what I expected. I didn't

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine if Rogers just ran the place call

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Speaker 2: But you have faith in him. You have faith in

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Speaker 1: No, I can't emphasize enough about the pre snap stuff.

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Speaker 2: That may be the saving grace of the entire offense.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking like eighty percent? I mean there's still

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Speaker 2: like what forty yards? I'm impressing you in your in

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Speaker 1: I was just pucellanimous and Rod. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: I honestly like seeing him rip into guys like I

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Speaker 2: Rudolph could execute the game play. That's wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: I think he'd be okay. Like I don't think they'd

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Speaker 1: I think if Rudolphin played all the games, they'd be

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Speaker 1: But that one game is going to make called the

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Speaker 2: I mean, Rogers bailed the defense out against the Jets

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: The Cincinnati game answered a question. I'll be it against

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Speaker 2: He had a very good fourth quarter. I'll be it

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Speaker 2: for that. I'm a see I'm taking it down from

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Speaker 2: a seed who cares? Right, it's your grade.

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Speaker 1: Well, the point of who cares is well taken. But

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Speaker 1: but no, but blake here, Tom. I think wat has

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Speaker 2: He said, two very good games, let's call them dominant.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three percent of the time when you're making forty

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Speaker 1: you're just not going to be good enough with him

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Speaker 2: You just are not.

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Speaker 1: There is nobody can say, well, it's a team game.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't apply here, not when you're making forty one mil,

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Speaker 2: Do you have any change it to an F? I

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Speaker 2: jen us here for the gate Way Clipper. You're haunted help.

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Speaker 1: Pregame show brought to this bar good friends at sender

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Speaker 1: ovid Schendrorov and Fisherman. Date charged twenty five percent, the

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Speaker 1: rest charge forty tom. I feel like today's show was

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Speaker 1: once again all over the place. The Jeremy Fowler scooped

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Speaker 2: Caught me by surprise. You're grade of giving TJ.

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Speaker 1: And then we got the Penguins five to one winners

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Speaker 1: Come watch the game with me at Sharky's in Latrobe,

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Speaker 1: Prime RIB Night, Prime Rib Primetime for Hockey comes to

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Speaker 1: win the Super Genus at Sharky's in Latrobe at seven

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Speaker 1: pm tomorrow night for the Penguin game. Tom The Penguins

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Speaker 2: It was a great game from the Penguins. There's so

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Speaker 2: much fun to watch again. The freshness of this team

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Speaker 2: It's a much better start than any of us I

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Speaker 2: They might yet get McKenna. They too many conclusions based

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Speaker 1: Then again, if the Steelers can keep Rogers after six,

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Speaker 2: But the Penguins, well, when you start winning early in

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Speaker 2: this playoff race. I mean, what if they're going to

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Speaker 2: playoff spot by Thanksgiving? That's almost like a month away.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget teams that are in the playoffs

439
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving. Make it ninety I think seven percent of

440
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Speaker 1: the time. Now, Sid and Gina were flying. Here's my

441
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Speaker 1: theories on that. Sid's always flying, he just doesn't know

442
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Speaker 1: any other way. Gina wants to keep playing next year,

443
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Speaker 1: as is trying to prove he still can. He's even

444
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Speaker 1: playing really smart in the neutral zone, not turning the

445
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Speaker 1: puck over.

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Speaker 2: That said, he started out hot last year as well. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 2: that's what I'm still waiting to see is let's see

448
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Speaker 2: how he looks closer to Thanksgiving the beginning of December,

449
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Speaker 2: because I think, you know, like eleven points through five

450
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 2: games last year, he's almost even hotter last year. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: so we'll see if that can have a little bit

452
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Speaker 2: more longevity this year. I feel you on your theory though,

453
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Speaker 2: that it's it's almost like a contract year, is how

454
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Speaker 2: he's viewing it. I mean, he kind of is a

455
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Speaker 2: contract year for him if he does want to keep

456
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Speaker 2: playing in the league.

457
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Speaker 1: So well, if he wants to keep playing and wants

458
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Speaker 1: to stay here, that is going to be mega awkward

459
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Speaker 1: because the right.

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Speaker 2: Thing is to let him go. Can't do it, have

461
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Speaker 2: to let them. I bet they keep them. I've bet

462
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Speaker 2: a thousand dollars on it. Right this second, are you

463
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Speaker 2: surprised that Florida isn't Lodgers will hold a dual press

464
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Speaker 2: conference espress, Florida isn't calling after the start that he's

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Speaker 2: had in their injury situation.

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Speaker 1: And they look awful. Well, here's the thing. I think Florida,

467
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Speaker 1: you know what, they might very quietly do just not

468
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I don't think they're gonna, you know,

469
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Speaker 1: affect their long term by trading to try to squeak

470
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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I think they might just you know,

471
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Speaker 1: take it on the chin and regroup next year when

472
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Speaker 1: you have Ka, Chuck and bark Off back.

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Speaker 2: There's no way they're gonna repeat. I just don't feel

474
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Speaker 2: like that's gonna be the case, especially.

475
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Speaker 1: That would require making the finals now. But my thing is,

476
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Speaker 1: having watched them play I think three times so far,

477
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Speaker 1: not only are they missing the guys that are hurt,

478
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Speaker 1: but the whole team's exhausted from all those playoff games.

479
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Speaker 2: So if they quietly miss the playoffs like you're suggesting,

480
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Speaker 2: not on purpose, but it just kind of happens organically

481
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Speaker 2: with injuries, they'd probably be the favorite the next year

482
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Speaker 2: to come back and win it all. Don't plably get McKenna.

483
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Speaker 2: Now here's the something I wrote about in the trip.

484
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Speaker 1: Kendall's been real good, but he only has the one

485
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Speaker 1: goal in six games, having sat one, and I think

486
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Speaker 1: if he's not gonna play top six, if he's just

487
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Speaker 1: gonna play all season with guys like Tommy Novak and

488
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Speaker 1: Philip Hollander, he should go back to junior, because, like

489
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Speaker 1: I talked about Alexei Morosa, you don't want Kendall up here,

490
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Speaker 1: who's projected to be a top six learning to be

491
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Speaker 1: a bottom six. Even though I don't think he would

492
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Speaker 1: benefit greatly from going back to major junior. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have him play top six there than bottom six in Pittsburgh,

494
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Speaker 1: just as I've come around to the idea that Coyvenan

495
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Speaker 1: should play top six and Wilkes in not bottom six here.

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Speaker 1: That said that said tom My, top six in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: would be Sid Gino, Russ, Raquel, Coyvenan, and Kendall.

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Speaker 2: Period. I'm not going to buy into this.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Brassers guy is Eric Glendress all of

500
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Speaker 1: a sudden, and I don't care if he really is either.

501
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Speaker 2: It's not the purpose to develop him.

502
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Speaker 1: The purpose to develop the guys who have a pot

503
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Speaker 1: of gold at the end of their rainbow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would rather have Kindle play in top six too,

505
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Speaker 2: So if that has to be a juniors, then send

506
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Speaker 2: him back. Having Phillip the net a ton of juniors

507
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Speaker 2: haven't get a ton of confidence. You think he projects

508
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Speaker 2: more as a wing too in the future at the NHL.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. See I wonder if they view him

510
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Speaker 2: more I see it.

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Speaker 1: I see him as a second line guy who's gonna

512
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Speaker 1: get like twenty to twenty five goals, forty to forty

513
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Speaker 1: five assists in his good years.

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Speaker 2: I want to send Kendle back though, because if he stays,

515
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Speaker 2: he'll be the third line center. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna toile him in the top six.

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Speaker 1: Depends what their plans are. Like you know what I'd do,

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Speaker 1: I'd put him on Sid's line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't think they're going to I don't

520
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Speaker 2: think they are either. But I'll tell you why I would.

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Speaker 1: I think they think the game the same and Oskay

522
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Speaker 1: Kendall should be in their first power play. Kindall is

523
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Speaker 1: better on the power play than Ruster Raquel. Kendall on

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Speaker 1: the second power play is making more plays through the

525
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Speaker 1: neutral zone. And into the offensive zone in like in

526
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Speaker 1: like ninety seconds of powerplay time of night, then the

527
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Speaker 1: rest of the the first team park plays making total.

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Speaker 2: I would do that too, but I just don't think

529
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Speaker 2: I go. You know right now is a better park

530
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Speaker 2: play guy than Malkin, And they're definitely not gonna leave

531
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Speaker 2: mulking off the first unit for him. So I would

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Speaker 2: send him back to juniors because they're not going to

533
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Speaker 2: use him in the capacity that you're describing that they should.

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Speaker 1: They should think about it because even if they are

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Speaker 1: entertaining the thought of making the playoffs. Now, one of

536
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Speaker 1: the smartest things I ever saw coach do, and I

537
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Speaker 1: forget who the coach was. I think it was Gene

538
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Speaker 1: Ubriaco at this point in eighty eighty nine, put Robbie

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Speaker 1: Brown with Mario. Even though Robbie bron skated like he

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Speaker 1: was is he was in what cement, his ankles were

541
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Speaker 1: chained together. He thought the game like Mario and wind

542
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Speaker 1: up getting forty nine goals and one hundred and fifteen points. Now,

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Speaker 1: part of that was, you know, coach tail and Mario

544
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Speaker 1: in his one hundred and ninety nine points season, But

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Speaker 1: why ask why?

546
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Speaker 2: And if you slide kindle up to the top six.

547
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Speaker 2: Put him on Sid's wing. You could open up a

548
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Speaker 2: slot for someone like a Bros who is a bottom

549
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Speaker 2: six player would project to be that right at the

550
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Speaker 2: NHL level. Bring him from who see that.

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Speaker 1: That's the they're in love with Brassers now and that

552
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Speaker 1: will continue all season.

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Speaker 2: He's done very well. I'm not denigrating, but he is

554
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Speaker 2: what he is.

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Speaker 1: He's a journeyman, big goof and we can't suddenly think

556
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Speaker 1: he's Eric Glendross despite the cool porno name.

557
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Speaker 2: And he's benefiting from Gino's hot star too. I mean,

558
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Speaker 2: Gino's setting things up for.

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Speaker 1: Benefiting you know what's doing okay too is Mantha, who

560
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Speaker 1: who has a bit more pedigree than like like and

561
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Speaker 1: he you know what he's doing that we ain't had

562
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Speaker 1: guys do this for years. That's why Brasser stands out

563
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Speaker 1: and Mantha stands on. They go to the net with purpose.

564
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Speaker 1: Like last night, Manton just got to the net at

565
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Speaker 1: the same time as two of their guys and the puck,

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Speaker 1: and he collided with all of them and the puck

567
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Speaker 1: lined up in the net.

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of goals that we hadn't been getting

569
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Speaker 2: for years. They have been there. It's like Jeremy Pivot

570
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Speaker 2: and gross Boot, like ten years now, it's been missing.

571
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Speaker 2: It's what I said at the beginning of the segment,

572
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Speaker 2: like it's just so refreshing to watch this team play again.

573
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Speaker 2: Who knows where this all leads, but at least in

574
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Speaker 2: a night in a night out basis. I mean, Mark,

575
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Speaker 2: I'm not worried as much of blowing leads now all

576
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm feeling safe with the two goal

577
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Speaker 2: lead all of a sudden.

578
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Speaker 1: See, But that's the problem. It's weird because it feels

579
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Speaker 1: like they're efing up. It feels like five and two

580
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Speaker 1: is efing up, Like making the playoffs would be fing

581
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Speaker 1: up because drafting sixteenth would suck or eleventh or whenever.

582
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Speaker 1: You know, it's not worth not getting the star forward

583
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Speaker 1: to just sneak into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It'll feel like it is, but it just is not.

585
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Speaker 2: And you don't see them getting into the playoffs and

586
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Speaker 2: making a little noise winning around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't be wrong, least this week. If you

588
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Speaker 1: made me root for something right now, well, okayre's the thing.

589
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Speaker 1: I'd want them in the lottery if I knew they

590
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Speaker 1: would get McKenna of course, since I don't know that

591
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Speaker 1: i'd like to see make the playoffs, since what's best

592
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Speaker 1: for business.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my god, they were only thirteen k there

594
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Speaker 2: last night. It is what's best for business. But they

595
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Speaker 2: really need that, like nailed on star prospect and there's

596
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Speaker 2: like five of them in this draft class, six of

597
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Speaker 2: them that you can get.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have a first line center or first

599
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Speaker 1: line in the entire system.

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Speaker 2: And if they get that, I think it all comes together.

601
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Speaker 2: I think it's a perfect system. Then at that point,

602
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Speaker 2: what they.

603
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Speaker 1: Probably have is a bunch of like real good second

604
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Speaker 1: line guys like coyven in McGroarty kindle kindle, except you

605
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Speaker 1: couldn't play him together, would be too small when mcgroarty's

606
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Speaker 1: pretty place, pretty big.

607
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Speaker 2: Well. The one thing they do have going to is

608
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Speaker 2: they have a pretty good battery defensively with Bruniic on

609
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Speaker 2: the blue line and then Murshov and net like those

610
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Speaker 2: two should be a great tandem. Staggy made a great call.

611
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean more shot Moreshoff will be the

612
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Speaker 1: be the he's killing it team. Stagg he had a

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Speaker 1: good line. I was sitting next to him in the

614
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Speaker 1: press box. The goal mant to score. We just rammed

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Speaker 1: into the net. That reminded us of a goal Troy

616
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Speaker 1: Lone he scored in the playoffs one year.

617
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Speaker 2: Like it.

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Speaker 1: It looked like technically the puck one net first, but

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Speaker 1: he went into the net right after the puck, and

620
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Speaker 1: if you glanced, it almost looked like Troy was inside

621
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Speaker 1: the net pulling the puck in. It was like he's boom.

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Speaker 2: Everything doesn't have to look like you know, this spectacular

623
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Speaker 2: top ten play. When you score, you can have a

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Speaker 2: car crash, get the puck in the net.

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Speaker 1: The big redhead from bo Island, Alberta. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we didn't note the couple couple milestones. Sid is now

627
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Speaker 1: the Penguins all time leading score regular season plus playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He passed Mario although to be the big Marcus still

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Speaker 1: regular season I agree with that. That's seventeen twenty three

630
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Speaker 1: to sixteen ninety five, so Sid will reach it later

631
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Speaker 1: this year. And Panger got his six hundred career assists

632
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Speaker 1: only twenty NHL defense.

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Speaker 2: I've never done that.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like we sleep on Tanger's career because

635
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: he was obviously in the shadow of Sid and Gino.

636
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Speaker 1: But he racked up a lot of points, making sure

637
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Speaker 1: those guys got points. Yeah, and he was like just

638
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: the rock behind those guys and the playmaker behind those guys.

639
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: You had to have a playmaker behind those guys.

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Speaker 2: When you saw that he joins just nineteen other defensemen

641
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: in NHL history to do that, I think it really

642
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: put into perspective just how great Chrys Latang is. And

643
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: he should be a Hall of Famer. He should go

644
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Speaker 2: in with those two, not together. It's like some big celebration.

645
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Gino and sid or

646
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Speaker 2: longer Zo.

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Speaker 1: He came up in an era where there were so

648
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Speaker 1: many good defenseman he couldn't even get on Team Canada.

649
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Speaker 2: Even though he probably deserve to be on Team Canada

650
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: as a bottom pair guy. I think one point, they're

651
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: talking about this Shaefer guy, the Islanders rookie. He looks great.

652
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, he can't be on the Canadian Olympic team.

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Speaker 1: Oh as far as that's you have to consider him, No,

654
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Speaker 1: you don't. He's a rookie, he's eighteen. You're not taking

655
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Speaker 1: guys to the Olympics.

656
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Speaker 2: To develop them. Yeah, I agree with that. You know

657
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: what I would do, I know what the roster sizes are.

658
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: If there's like, you know, an eighth defenseman doesn't play,

659
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: I'd take them along for the experience, Like the Dream

660
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Speaker 1: Team took along.

661
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Speaker 2: Who Lightner, Yeah, Lightner. That didn't really pay off, but

662
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: it turned out to make him a really mediocre NBA player.

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Speaker 1: We got a great show today. Mike de Corsi at

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Speaker 1: three point thirty talking Steelers. Paul's Ice at four o'clock

686
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Speaker 1: talking Steelers. You'll be inducted into the Penguins Hall of

687
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Speaker 1: Fame Saturday before the game. Vn's Columbus and PPG the

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Speaker 1: two times Stanley Cup champion Big Rdy Kevin Stevens at

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Speaker 1: four thirty. Right now, we've got Tommy Radio. Tom what

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Speaker 1: do we got for the trifecta?

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Speaker 2: For today's trifecta, I have got three pleasant surprises to

692
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Speaker 2: the start of the Penguin season so far. Number three

693
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Speaker 2: for me is the team really buying in and playing

694
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Speaker 2: within Dann Muse's structure, because they have all bought in

695
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Speaker 2: superstars to bottom of their.

696
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Speaker 1: No question, and that's reflected not that many guys are

697
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Speaker 1: playing that great now.

698
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Speaker 2: The whole is better than the some of the parts,

699
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Speaker 2: except for siding Gino. I mean, they're just playing elite hockey.

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Speaker 2: Number two is brawsers. It's not gonna last, but five

701
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Speaker 2: goals already is insane leading the team as far as

702
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Speaker 2: that's concerned. The number one. Pleasant surprise, and maybe this

703
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: isn't a pleasant surprise, maybe this is kind of a disaster.

704
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: But the goaltending Seawov's and Jari are combined for a

705
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: ninety two percent save percentage so far league average is ninety.

706
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Speaker 2: They're playing awesome. I will.

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Speaker 1: I agree with the structure. I agree with brawsers. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I would have a number three. Maybe Kindle

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Speaker 1: and Okay and Brunick. But don't confuse getting hit with

710
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Speaker 1: the puck with good goalie play.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're making saves, although if you get

713
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Speaker 1: hit with the puck, you're putting yourself a good position.

714
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Speaker 2: But they're not committing robbery.

715
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Speaker 1: They're playing behind a very structurally sound defensive approach that

716
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Speaker 1: is limiting the other team's opportunities. For example, that goal

717
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Speaker 1: last night, the first goal in the first shot, Shiloff

718
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: should have stopped it. That's a ton twister. Hiloff should

719
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Speaker 1: have stopped it. She sells seashells by the seashore. Shiloff

720
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Speaker 1: should have stopped it. See Radio professional right there the diction.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm not sold on the goaltending.

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Speaker 2: So the number three in my trifecta. The muse system

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Speaker 2: and playing within it is feeding into what I had

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Speaker 2: at number one. Yes, yeah, how could you have an alternate?

725
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Speaker 2: I would take that out. And just how surprising and

726
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: seamless it seems to be for Brunick and Kindle at

727
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Speaker 2: the NHL level, for a nineteen year old and Brunick

728
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Speaker 2: and an eighteen year old and Kindle, Yeah, no question,

729
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: no question. I mean I thought that Brunick would be good.

730
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Speaker 2: I didn't think he'd arguably the best defender on the

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Speaker 2: team already. And then as far as Kendall's concerned, I

732
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Speaker 2: thought this was just gonna be, you know, get your

733
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Speaker 2: feet wet a little bit, have a nice cup of

734
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Speaker 2: coffee in the NHL. But he looks awesome, like he's

735
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Speaker 2: forcing your hand almost to keep him. You know what's funny,

736
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Speaker 2: And this is me reading into just watching them do

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Speaker 2: interviews after the game.

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Speaker 1: Brunick looks like he can't believe he's here, Like, you know,

739
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Speaker 1: he's like really wide eyed, and that's what a knock.

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Speaker 1: That's just how he is. Kendall is not. Kendall just

741
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Speaker 1: looks like he's kind of absorbing it, you know what

742
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Speaker 1: I mean. And that's that's cool too, maybe because his

743
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Speaker 1: parents were both professional athletes.

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Speaker 2: Wellre's your gut going with those two? Still leaning Brunick

745
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Speaker 2: stays Kendle back. I hear they're gonna keep both of them.

746
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Speaker 2: I would not hate that, and then that load.

747
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will hate it if Kendall winds up

748
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Speaker 1: centering Tommy Novak.

749
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Speaker 2: And fill the entire instead of experimenting with him in

750
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Speaker 2: the top six. I would like not.

751
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Speaker 1: Experimenting tom You can't be concerned about Braso and Mantha.

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Speaker 1: You can't be like McGroarty has to go top six

753
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Speaker 1: when he gets here, has has to be top six.

754
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Speaker 1: If he stays here, coven has to come up and

755
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Speaker 1: be top six. But the only alternative I could come

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Speaker 1: up with is.

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Speaker 2: If you put all three of them on a third

758
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Speaker 2: line of McGroarty Kendall centering them, and then Coivenan has

759
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Speaker 2: the other wing. Yes, kind of have a youth movement line.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I might be tempted to play them like

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Speaker 1: equal minutes to the second line.

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Speaker 2: If your long term prognostication for what kinda will become

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Speaker 2: as a center, I don't hate that, But if you

764
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Speaker 2: think he's going to be a wing, get him up

765
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Speaker 2: there with Sid for a run. Sid doesn't want that.

766
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Speaker 2: He's not said that out. They're reading into that. Like

767
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: most things Sid doesn't want, he never has to say.

768
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Speaker 2: They just decide for him. They know what to do.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like the Dupuie thing when we got Iggy.

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Speaker 1: They got Iggy specifically to play with Sid in twenty

771
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Speaker 1: thirteen and Sid said to the media, well, I'm content

772
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Speaker 1: playing with Knits and Duper never talk to Bosman, never

773
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Speaker 1: talked to Shiro.

774
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Speaker 2: But but the.

775
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Speaker 1: Assembled took it like a papal bull like it, like

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Speaker 1: like Sid had delivered the message from the monor at

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Speaker 1: Saint Peter's Basilica something like that.

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Speaker 2: And if they keep winning as they have to start

779
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Speaker 2: the season, and they stay in that playoff race, or

780
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Speaker 2: they're in the playoffs come Thanksgiving, they won't trade Ruster

781
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Riquel right like they won't move them via trade where

782
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: it's almost like Well said, we have no choice. We

783
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: have to play covin In with you now, or we

784
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: have to play kindle with you now. There is no rust.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what they'll do. I didn't expect

786
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: them to start five and two. Oh so I just

787
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Speaker 1: if they are in a playoff spot at the deadline.

788
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: You can't trade those guys. But what if you're like

789
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: six points out of a playoff spot at the deadline,

790
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: which means you're probably not gonna make but you are

791
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Speaker 1: in it.

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00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: This team is good. It's not a bad thing that

793
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: they went five and two, but it puts them in

794
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: a very precurious spot. It puts DUBIS in a very

795
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: tricky spot if this continues, if this is a trend,

796
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Speaker 2: if they stay in the top three of the metro

797
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: come that Thanksgiving date, I don't know what they do either.

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00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Carlson's playing himself into having some decent trade value now,

799
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: like you'd have to think a team out there.

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Speaker 1: I think I brought this up, you know, I cast

801
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: this plane so good and so for him fundamentally sound. Yeah,

802
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: he was really pissed that he wasn't one of the

803
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: first sixth announced for the Swedish Olympic team.

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Speaker 2: It's very important to him, isn't it.

805
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: Very more more important than playing good here when it

806
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: is Stanley Cup.

807
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: You saw that at the Four Nations. You saw Carlson

808
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: for that tournament play a lot better, more structured for

809
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: him than you did at any point when he was

810
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: playing for the Penguins. Uh. Maybe he is tapping into

811
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: that Olympic year thing more so than he is playing

812
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: for a new coach. He doesn't care about the new coach.

813
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: Small Liverpool started lineup is today.

814
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: Andrew Robertson's like five foot eight and he like towers

815
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: over over Vertz and Frimpong.

816
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: Does Einkracht Frankfurt have a lot of height? Is that

817
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: a worry for you?

818
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: I the only player on their team that I really

819
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: knew we got oh oh they have getsy oh man,

820
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: he's past his prime.

821
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Speaker 2: He used to be Mario Getsei. He was on Byron

822
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Speaker 2: for a while.

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Speaker 1: Very famous photograph of him sitting with his girlfriend on

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Speaker 1: a boat wearing a speedo, in which he was clearly

825
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Speaker 1: shall we say, up for the chain.

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Speaker 2: That was everywhere in the papers and espeeda. Yes nice,

827
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Speaker 2: Yes you're in Germany today. Huh Liverpool had to travel

828
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Speaker 2: into the German state.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we we at Kentucky played for Eintracht last year,

830
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: so he's playing, which I think is a good move.

831
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: In Frimpong and Vertz played in I Bundesliga next year

832
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: and they're in there too. I think they're familiarity with.

833
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: This hopefully gets us our first win in five games and.

834
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: On the bench.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no Mo, well not, I didn't mean that, isn't

836
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: no mo. Blood stains the avreas on my daddy's baby.

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Speaker 1: Grand ain't seen midnight since we started this band. No mow,

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00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: no more Little Aerosmith. Here on the X and I'll

839
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Speaker 1: be back with.

840
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: More talk. One O five nine the X. Now it's

841
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Speaker 2: your chance to win one thousand dollars