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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVZ, Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, now we're going to take you to Islamabad. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it is a little after seven a m. Saturday morning

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Speaker 2: in Islamabad. They're about nine hours ahead of US, and

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Speaker 2: that is where the talks between the Iranian delegation and

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Speaker 2: US delegation led by Vice President and JD Vance will

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Speaker 2: commence today. I'm looking at a couple of things that

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Speaker 2: I've picked up which I want to share with you.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this according to Al Jazerra, and I

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Speaker 2: like to go to Al Jazera because they obviously are

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Speaker 2: not a US website from the Middle East, but they

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Speaker 2: do report from here and from other locations. Basically, Al

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Speaker 2: jazer is reporting that as of the first day of

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Speaker 2: this war, there has been literally no Internet activity. There

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Speaker 2: was one day where it spiked to about I guess

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Speaker 2: fourteen percent briefly. Briefly, and it looks as if it

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Speaker 2: was honor about the eighteenth of March. But this is

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Speaker 2: tracked by a website called net Blocks, and basically, for

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Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, for the entirety of this war,

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Speaker 2: which has lasted for now, it's going into its seventh week,

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Speaker 2: it's forty two days. We're still in Friday, so for

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Speaker 2: US it's theoretically forty one day, but it's over one

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Speaker 2: thousand hours. There has been no internet, no internet in

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Speaker 2: in Iran right now, virtually non right now, it's about

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Speaker 2: one percent one percent. That means the Iranian people they

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Speaker 2: but they have no clue as to why it stopped.

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Speaker 2: So the Iranian people can tell the Iranian government can

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Speaker 2: tell the Iranian people anything they want, and they will

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Speaker 2: have no choice but to believe it, as simple as that. Also,

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Speaker 2: as an important aspect of these talks, Iran is hoping

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Speaker 2: that Israel will stop their assault a Lebanon. So apparently

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Speaker 2: it's been a phone call between the Lebanese ambassador to

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Speaker 2: happened earlier today. The Lebanese President's office announced aff to

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Speaker 2: of a ceasefire as well as to discuss negotiations at

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Speaker 2: this in person meeting on Tuesday in the US. But

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Speaker 2: Al Jazeera. Shortly after that, the Israeli ambassador put out

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Speaker 2: again to Al Jazeera, we're already getting different different accounts

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Speaker 2: of these phone calls and what exactly is on the

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Speaker 2: table now in terms of the US and Iran, these

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Speaker 2: talks haven't even started. They haven't even started yet. However, however,

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Speaker 2: it's conceivable that Iran theoretically might say, hey, look, we're

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Speaker 2: have is and the talks have not started. It is Saturdays.

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Speaker 2: By this time tomorrow or maybe by the time we

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Speaker 2: will have broken down. But I guess Roan is making

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Speaker 2: even they are going to make certain demands. And that's

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Speaker 2: an interesting procedure, interesting strategy. Yeah, you're here in Islamabad,

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Speaker 2: and now if you don't sit down at the table

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Speaker 2: course at that point the US would say, no, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to agree. We're here to negotiate, We're not

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Speaker 2: So who knows where this is going to go? My

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Speaker 2: sort of a difference of interpretation, if you will. They

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Speaker 2: we certainly know they're Farsi, and they might even know

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Speaker 2: So my question is real simple. Do you think that

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Speaker 2: mean by play, They're going to They're going to make

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Speaker 2: We need to we need to continue these negotiations two

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that their people, even though their

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Speaker 2: open society, thank god we are. But an open society

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Speaker 2: that Iran will play our delegation, and it won't matter

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Speaker 2: who the delegation is. They played Bill Clinton, they played

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Speaker 2: They got out of him what they wanted. They got

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Speaker 2: this agreement. They got money. Now again, the Obama administration

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to open up the phone lines. We

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Speaker 2: will talk about this until eleven o'clock. At eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 2: we will light it up and go to the twentieth arm.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about shelter animals, but shelter dogs

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Speaker 2: we did talk about them in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear from you on this one. What

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Speaker 2: it as a percentage if you want that these talks

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Speaker 2: that trickle through there today six seven four thirty six

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Speaker 2: Love to have you join the conversation. If you think

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Speaker 2: think that these talks will bear fruit. Love to hear

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Speaker 2: from you, coming back on Nightside, whatever your point of view.

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Speaker 2: My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. It's a Friday night.

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Speaker 2: The Integrity crew is back home, which is good news.

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Speaker 2: But this I don't think we're going to see much

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Speaker 2: good news from these negotiations. I hope to god I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side, Dan Ray, one b Z, Boston's

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to Colls before we do. This

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Speaker 2: is a late story from USA today. Actually cleared about

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Speaker 2: a little less than an hour ago. Little more than

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Speaker 2: an hour ago. At ninet eighteen, Iran vowed on Friday

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Speaker 2: not to participate in negotiations unless a ceasefire takes hold.

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Speaker 2: In Lebanon and Iran's assets are unfrozen, casting doubt over

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Speaker 2: high stakes peace talk set to begin Saturday, which is

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Speaker 2: now Saturday in Pakistan. Iran's parliamentary speaker Mohammad Baker Kuwaliba

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Speaker 2: said in a statement on x that the two measures

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Speaker 2: quote must be fulfilled before negotiations begin. The comments came

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Speaker 2: as Vice President Jade Vance was and wrote to Islamabad

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Speaker 2: he left Washington this morning, where he will be leading

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Speaker 2: of course, Iran hates Israel has accused Israel violating the

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Speaker 2: ongoing ceasefire by launching its deadliest strikes on Lebanon since

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the war. President Donald Trump said the

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Speaker 2: finding the Iran Bak militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon, even

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Speaker 2: and Lebanon in Washington. Next week. Meanwhile, tanker traffic through

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Speaker 2: And by the way, that is against the law, the

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Speaker 3: Pessimistic? I guess the guys that they have in this

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Speaker 3: negotiation on our side hasn't accomplished anything, and I WoT

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Speaker 3: why to keep sending them to be our main negotiators.

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Speaker 3: What what?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. We have said that we

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Speaker 2: to a conclusion. We have pounded Iran. Okay, We're ready

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Speaker 2: don't want to get They view the world differently than

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Speaker 2: we do. It's tough to negotiate with it with a terrorist,

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Speaker 3: No, I aren't you, Gad, But I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why we keep sending these guys to

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Speaker 2: Well, who would you send who?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe we could send some of the

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Speaker 3: other than these.

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Speaker 2: Two guys, like some of the Obama people.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily, maybe some some veteran diplomat.

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Speaker 2: Well, both the vice president, the vice president of the

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Speaker 2: United States is probably already landed in Islamabad. He is

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Speaker 3: Well, at least we got somebody different other than them

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Speaker 3: two guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what would you my question, Frank, Frank, what

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Speaker 2: would you offer to Iran at this point? I mean,

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Speaker 2: what what? What you know? They want to have the

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Speaker 2: offer them that that's illegal.

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Speaker 3: No, no, we can't.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So if it comes comes to a point where

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Speaker 2: It's almost like being in a ring with somebody in

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll always have superpowers, there's no question I mean,

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Speaker 3: What all three of them are messing up the world

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Speaker 2: I, you and I look at it a little differently,

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Speaker 2: Frank Okay, first of all, just factually, how long has

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Speaker 2: see why it's a quagmire. Why do you know Vietnam was, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Vietnam was a quagmire. Iraq and Afghanistan which were for

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Speaker 3: Field bomb is somebody and they ain't giving up, then

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Speaker 2: They will give up at some point because they don't

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Speaker 3: And like, like, I want to emphasize this hopefully will

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Speaker 2: Well, without superpowers, without superpowers, you and I, Frank would

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about going that back. I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: This has always been superpowered. They will always look if

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Speaker 2: I think it's nice of you to say.

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Speaker 3: That individual individually, Yeah, probably, Okay, but I'm saying that,

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I disagree with you, but I appreciate your

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Speaker 3: Happened what happened in the sixties US in Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you have out of Vietnam, which was which

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Speaker 2: Will the Iranians negotiate in good faith? And if they do,

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Speaker 2: So the negosts ciations will begin, I guess in some

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Speaker 6: Hey, Dan, Hi, Bob. Yeah, I'm not optimistic at all.

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Speaker 6: And so, first of all, weren't we negotiating with Iran?

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Speaker 6: Not that I'm a fan of Iran, but weren't we

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. There was an negotiating session. There was

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Speaker 2: It was six weeks ago Tomorrow morning, Saturday morning. And

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Speaker 6: And there's a there's a whole you know, a whole

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess there's this this Speaker of the House

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Speaker 2: what's going on. People meaning the people in Iran. The

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Speaker 2: the internet down, there's no television. No, they're not looking

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Speaker 2: at local news. They're not listening to dissidents. You know,

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Speaker 2: There's no descent in Iran. They they killed thirty five

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Well, then that's another point I wanted to make with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but they were doing uh ai uh in

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Speaker 6: You know, but I mean, but I mean why, I mean,

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Speaker 2: That's what the Russians wanted to do at the height

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Speaker 2: It was funny. Yesterday there was a all of this

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Speaker 2: And they had pictures. They were showing that people, pictures

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Speaker 6: You know, Can I make one more point, Dan, Yes, correct,

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 6: My concern is our country, the United States, and I

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Speaker 2: Well, when his negotiators were told that Iran was close

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Speaker 2: Well that was in June. That was in June.

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Speaker 2: No we borre we trust me, Bob Okay, trust me.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do a contradiction in January. It wasn't it

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Speaker 2: So anyway, well, we'll see, we'll see. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Thanks Bob Okay talk soon. Six

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear what you think. And ladies, don't

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Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones. We're going to go

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Speaker 2: to Georgian Rhode Island. George next on Nightside. Optimistic of

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Speaker 2: pessimistic over these so called peace negotiations.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to add how are you? I

436
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Speaker 7: don't want to add to pessimism. I'm with you. I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they can be trusted. This is an

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Speaker 7: amazing thing I find though, when you watch them, when

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Speaker 7: you watch their character and their psychology, and you watch

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Speaker 7: that they are willing the way they blocked the straight

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Speaker 7: up her moves, which is an international agreed waterway, as

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Speaker 7: I understand.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 7: Imagine if they had a nuclear weapon. I mean this

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Speaker 7: is like nineteen so then I think to myself. Then

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Speaker 7: they say, well, it's not imminent. Well, it's like people

447
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Speaker 7: in nineteen thirty two saying, well, you know he's the chancellor,

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Speaker 7: but you know what could they possibly do? They've had inflation,

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Speaker 7: you know what I mean? And then six years later

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Speaker 7: the world's on fire.

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Speaker 2: Well remember remember when Neville Chamberlain came back from Germany

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Speaker 2: and said, yes, we have peace in our the peace

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Speaker 2: in our time.

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Speaker 7: Exactly. Or how about when the Russians have all their

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Speaker 7: military lined up towards the Ukraine for weeks, if I recall,

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Speaker 7: they couldn't move them because of the mud, and they

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Speaker 7: said they're going to attack, and they said, no, we're

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Speaker 7: doing war games maneuvers. I mean, how many times can

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Speaker 7: you do the Charlie Brown Lucy football thing.

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Speaker 5: And not right?

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Speaker 6: Isn't that it?

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Speaker 2: It's exactly, George, I love this phone.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Well, and then I watch everybody with the I can

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Speaker 7: I've thought this my whole life. I don't know why

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Speaker 7: a guy's building a bridge, and he's trying to get

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Speaker 7: everybody the other side, and people lining up to go, well,

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't do.

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Speaker 6: It that way?

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Speaker 7: Would you use that for? How came you do a

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Speaker 7: bit of that? But nobody, nobody knows how to get across.

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Speaker 7: Nobody makes a suggestion. They're just there to rip them apart.

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Speaker 7: It's it's just stunning to me that CNN we undermines

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Speaker 7: everything that we do. And Iran must watch that and go,

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Speaker 7: these people are great. We just feed them, you know,

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Speaker 7: negativity they used to have. Who was a woman in

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Speaker 7: like Japan, what did they call her?

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Speaker 5: Something rose?

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Speaker 2: Or to Tokyo.

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Speaker 7: We're our own coach CNN's Tokyo ben ms now right,

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Speaker 7: they're just and and they must watch it. And I

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Speaker 7: ran and they must just say, these people are just

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Speaker 7: killing themselves. We don't we just have to cut off

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Speaker 7: the oil. And then Newfoundland is that newfoundand.

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Speaker 2: Just worried about Greenland? Greenland?

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Speaker 7: Well, who's paying fourteen dollars for the gas?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought you were.

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Speaker 7: You had a caller the other night who said, the

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Speaker 7: people are upset because I think in in uh somewhere

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Speaker 7: they're paying fourteen dollars, so get involved. NATO is missing.

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Speaker 7: It's like we didn't leave NATO. NATO left us right.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how come you haven't called

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Speaker 2: my show more often?

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Speaker 7: I like your show it and I just yeah, you

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Speaker 7: have a very good I like that you give. But

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Speaker 7: I think i've spoke to you before. I used to

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Speaker 7: love David Brednoyd, and one of the reasons is you

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Speaker 7: run a show loo like his, where where you're open

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Speaker 7: to different opinions, and.

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Speaker 2: David David was a great friend of mine. Like David,

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Speaker 2: I enjoy having conversations we've I mean, my friend Frank

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Speaker 2: from Boston. He and I agree on very little, but

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Speaker 2: he's a gentleman and as long as I can have

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Speaker 2: a conversation, that's what this show is all about. It's

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Speaker 2: North America's back porch, simplest.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, could I say, could I think a great show.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you have it because they went to quite

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Speaker 7: a few people. I think you do a great job.

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Speaker 7: But I think this and this would be very trumpy,

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Speaker 7: and I feel like I shouldn't say it. Like the

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Speaker 7: Iranians are listening, I think we think they're stringing us along.

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Speaker 7: I think Trump might sit there and say he already

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Speaker 7: has everybody poised, and if he sees three days into

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Speaker 7: the week Wednesday, nothing's happening, You're all all of a

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Speaker 7: sudden going to say the United States has attacked all

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Speaker 7: the infrastructure and Iran.

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Speaker 2: We won't be a warning. We will just gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: See Georgia the call. I got to get a couple

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Speaker 2: more in here, So I'm going to let you run,

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Speaker 2: but come on back soon. Well, I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Yeah, and thank you great, Topice about lated.

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Speaker 2: Good night. Let me go to Ben in Norwood. Ben,

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Speaker 2: they got to get you in at least maybe one,

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Speaker 2: possibly two more.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Ben, Well, I'm as optimistic as can be

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Speaker 5: in a position of the glasses half full and not

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Speaker 5: half empty. With who were sending over there, I'm in

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Speaker 5: a better position of sending Kushner, and you know, in

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Speaker 5: advanced then I would be he's terrible. I mean, she's horrible.

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Speaker 5: But what about the pul Lavi family, Pulav the son

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Speaker 5: of the Shaw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has an interest in going back.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that the Trump administration, from what

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Speaker 2: I've read and heard, has much confidence. He's been out

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Speaker 2: of there since nineteen seventy nine, so he's been away

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Speaker 2: for forty seven years. He was a student that out

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Speaker 2: in west in Massachusetts. I think the when his father's

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Speaker 2: regime fell and the father left the country, I think

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Speaker 2: that they are looking for some other leader, of a

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Speaker 2: younger leader. To be really honest with you.

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Speaker 5: In my pers I was on the computer and I

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Speaker 5: saw Nixon in an old file, an old tape, and

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Speaker 5: he on the how the shawl was dismissed, and he

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Speaker 5: had stated how the Carter administration is at fault for

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Speaker 5: not vetting the Iyahtola and keeping them out. They should

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Speaker 5: have kept the Iyatola when he was an exile in

548
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Speaker 5: France and the whole ball. It was very interesting. It

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Speaker 5: was about a fifteen minute clip on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I try to find that this weekend. You know,

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Speaker 2: Nixon had a lot of faults, but he was pretty

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Speaker 2: good on foreign release issues as former vice president. You know,

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Speaker 2: he and Kissinger did open up China, and for a

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Speaker 2: while it looked like China was going in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of backslap a little bit on that one. Look,

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Speaker 2: I love your calls, Ben, you called, but you got

557
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Speaker 2: to call more frequently. I want to get one more

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Speaker 2: in here before we're going to go to the twentieth hour.

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Speaker 2: So I share, I understand what you've been saying. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you call. Let me go to Lyle in Gloucester. Lyle,

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Speaker 2: you were next on Nightsiger right ahead.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you again. I appreciate your middle of

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Speaker 4: the road approach with everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I'm a student. I'm an ex Navy area photographer and

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Speaker 4: during the Vietnam War, I was stationed in Japan and

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Speaker 4: I got to go to I'm talking about nuclear bombs

568
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Speaker 4: and I went up to Hiroshima and in the center

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Speaker 4: of ground zero, they have a bronze bell that's the

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Speaker 4: size of a bus and you swing thing wrapped and

571
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Speaker 4: the leather, you swing it back and forth and tree

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Speaker 4: to ring the bell for world peace. And we took

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Speaker 4: them into submission because they attacked us. Now Trump, Trump

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Speaker 4: is doing what we should have been doing all along.

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Speaker 4: It's just my personal opinion. I had some probably probably

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Speaker 4: a lot. Don't but cut the head off the snake

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Speaker 4: now before the snake bite you.

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Speaker 2: I subscribe to that. But but this particular snake has

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Speaker 2: told the world. I mean, they're not shy about saying

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Speaker 2: what they want to do. They you know, the guy

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Speaker 2: up in North Korea. I have no idea what that

582
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Speaker 2: knot job wants to do. I think I think that

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Speaker 2: he likes his his his Playboy magazines and his and

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Speaker 2: his fine French wine a little bit more. Uh. And

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Speaker 2: we should have made Dennis Rodman the ambassador to North Korea.

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Speaker 2: That would have solved that problem.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, his sister is next in line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, but but but but I understand him.

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00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: When these guys say to us, you're the great Satan,

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Speaker 2: and we it's death to America and Israel. It's death

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Speaker 2: to Israel. Sometimes you've got to believe what people tell you.

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Speaker 2: And we need to believe that. And when they told

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Speaker 2: us they had enough uh nuclear matrial material for eleven, yeah,

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Speaker 2: believe them.

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Speaker 4: And so if they're capable of shutting down the international

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Speaker 4: trade oil trade, which they basically have done, not American

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Speaker 4: oil treads, the international oil tead. If they're capable of that,

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Speaker 4: their government is capable of anything. Not the Iranian people.

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Speaker 4: And the reason I'm really calling is I I was

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Speaker 4: in Japan twenty years to the day we dropped the bomb.

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Speaker 4: I was in Hiroshima and there was a big anti

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Speaker 4: woppling and I was there and I had a run

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Speaker 4: into the Hiroshima Hilton because I was with a Japanese

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Speaker 4: girl who was going to college up in Tokyo, and

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Speaker 4: I met a very nice cow and I get chased

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Speaker 4: into the Hirosheima Hilton.

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Speaker 2: From my own safety, I understand that, Hey, Lyle, you

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Speaker 2: got to call early because I'm now flat out of time.

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Speaker 2: The eleven o'clock News is here.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, and have a nice have a nice weekend.

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Speaker 2: You too, my friend and called more often. Thank you much.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about dogs on the other side

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Speaker 2: of the eleven o'clock news twentieth hour awaits. We're going

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Speaker 2: to take the controversy away. The only controversy will be

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Speaker 2: have you ever had a shelter dog? Tell us about

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Speaker 2: your shelter dogs and which breed is your favorite breed?

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Speaker 2: I know what my breeds are. We'll be back right

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Speaker 2: after the news