1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: And now an exclusive interview with David Bassey for Dodger Talker. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: We are starting off leading off the show with two 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: of my favorite players from my favorite Dodger team, and 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: that was the miracle nineteen eighty eight World champion Dodgers. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: Will you talk about these days the Dodgers being perceived 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: as Goliath, Well, back in nineteen eighty eight, they were. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: David and these two men were drafted a year apart 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: by the Dodgers in the late seventies. I won't give 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: away which year for both these guys out of respect 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: to one of them, but these two guys have been 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: linked for a long time in their baseball lives and 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: have a never dying friendship to this day. They were 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: huge parts of the Dodgers winning the nineteen eighty eight 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: World Series and still keep tabs on the team and 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: you can be up close and personal with them wearing 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: their number nine and number four fourteen respectively. In January 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: at the Dodger Adult Fantasy Camp. There are still a 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: few spots open. It's almost sold out, but you can 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: be there with our guests Mike Sooshia and Mickey Hatcher. 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: If you go to Dodgers dot com slash fantasy camps 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: and they join us right now. Mike and Mickey, thank 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: you so much for taking the time out. It's great 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: to have you guys together. 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 1: All right, David Gregor, are you going first, Mike or what? Well? Mickey? 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: You they called you first, evidently, Mickey, so you go first. 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: Hey, Uh no, you're the manager. Go ahead. 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: So guys, maybe you could fill us in here. I 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: mean this, this friendship did not end in nineteen ninety 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: or nineteen ninety one or even you know, when you 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: guys were done being together on the Angels. How close 31 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: are you to this day? And where does that come from? 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Mike? Well, we're yeah, we're close, except when he's my 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: butt in the golf course and we're not that close. 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: But you know what, David, it was a great time. 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean we still keep in touch with guys that 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: we played with in the minor leagues, coming up through 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: the Dodge organization, and then that eighty eight team was 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: so special. There's a bond there, and you know, whether 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: it was Oral or Kirk Gibson or or t Bone Shelby, everybody, 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we all keep in touch and I think 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: that's that's the bond that you get from playing on 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: a championship team. And I've known Mickey, you know, you know, 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy seven when he signed, So you know 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: we've been we've been together, Ron, Renicky, all of us, 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: we're we're just we're good friends and we enjoy each 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: other's company. 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: Do you feel that way about Mike Mickey? 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean we came up. We have many 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: stories that you know, we developed over the years and 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: the bond. But you know what the greatest thing was 51 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: not only the players that we had an opportunity to 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: be part of, It was Peter O'Malley and uh, you 53 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: know that friendship has still been really close from an 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: owners to his players, and we still keep in touch 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 3: a lot and do lunches together. And I think that's 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: that's a special part about being a Dodger. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 2: I know Mickey comes out to Dodger Stadium a lot. 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: His wife, Patty is a big time Dodger fan. I 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: think Dodger fans would love to know from two great 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: champions themselves, what you thought about this year's World Series hatch? 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Do you want to start since you you really follow 62 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: it and your wife has a great passion for it. 63 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Still oh yeah, definitely. And of course Mike's social remembers 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: probably every play that happened from Game one to Game seven, 65 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: but I can only remember a couple, and you know, 66 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: the game sometimes are won by inches, and uh, you know, 67 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: it was just a great game to watch, going back 68 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: and forth and just seeing uh, you know, Roberts just 69 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: managed a great job in game seven, especially with that 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: defensive move and you know, itches a guy leading off 71 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: one more foot on third base and World Series goes 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: to Toronto. So it was an exciting game going back 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: and forth, especially for the fans. I mean, you know, 74 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: to me, I really think it's going to go down 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: as one of the Dodgers' best World Series. 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: Mike, when you were watching Game six and it's the 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: ninth inning, they're they're going to more starters. Tyler Glass 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: now gets the first out on the first pitch, and 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: you see keythk a Hernandez use his own Baseball IQ 80 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: to shade in to be able to pull off that 81 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: game ending double play. Just the sequence of events that 82 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: took place to end game six in game seven, is 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: that have you ever seen World Series games in that way? 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, David, that was one of the most 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: exciting series I think I've ever witnessed when we're with 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: the Angels and two. Our seven game series with the 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Giants was so back and forth and we managed to 88 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, beat him in seven games. But not only 89 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: was this the seventh game, the Dodgers going on the 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: road and winning every game was back and forth, back 91 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: and forth. And what I like about it was, I 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: really feel the Dodgers stepped up and won the game. 93 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: Toronto didn't hand them anything. The Dodgers had to make 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: plays they did. They had to do things in the 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: offensive end, and they you know, got some some incredible 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: hits that that you know, just just got them back 97 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: into the game. And the home runs were exciting. So 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: I think the way Micky already talked about Dave Roberts, 99 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: he did a terrific job. I think remolding that bullpen 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: with a lot of the starters in game seven was 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: the only way they were going to get that done, 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and they did it. And masasak Yama mode I should say, 103 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: did his best impersonation of or A hersheives er an 104 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: eighty eight come out of the bullpen and getting you know, 105 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: and saving the game, and that was what an exciting series. 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, since you are and known as being a catcher, 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: caught more games than anybody else in Dodger franchise history. 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: In Game seven, you know, one play where the Dodgers 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: by an inch could have lost the World Series was 110 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 2: with the infield in and the play at the plate 111 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: bases loaded Isaiah Connor Falaffa just a hair behind the 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: throw by Miguel Rojas to Will Smith. Can you explain 113 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, that situation for a catcher and how maybe 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: his foot could have slipped off? 115 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Will Smith's incredible. I think as a catcher, 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: you're told to put your foot right on the middle 117 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: of the plate so as you do reach for the ball, 118 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: your foot will stay on the plate. And I think 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: he did, but the timing Rojas had kind of played 120 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: and in between hop he lost his balance a little bit, 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: but he showed his great arm strength and threw a 122 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: bullet home and will stretch forward and just barely got 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, the runner. And I think Mickey already said it. 124 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: They're very passive at third base on their lead because 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: they don't want they don't want to get, you know, 126 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: get you'll get a line drive double play. But there's 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: a left handed hitter up and if that line drive 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: is hit to the right side of the infield, you 129 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: can be aggressive at third base and still get back. 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, that's the little things 131 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: that I think maybe get lost under you know, they 132 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: get lost like water under the bridge. But if he 133 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: if he had another two foot lead, then Mickey's right 134 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: that the series goes to Toronto's favor, and but will 135 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Will kept this sort of the plate. I think Grohaus 136 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: made a great play after he lost his balance, and 137 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: the Dodgers jumped up and won the game, and I 138 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: think that's what they can feel good about. 139 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: That's the voice of Mike Sooshia and Mickey Hatcher, teammates 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: World Champions as the Dodgers won it back in nineteen 141 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: eighty eight, as David slang Elias slain the Mighty Mets 142 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: and slaying the Oak's in five games, beating the Mets 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: in seven games, and Mickey, you know, Miguel Rojas sitting 144 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: that home run in Game seven of the World Series 145 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers down to their final two outs. I'm 146 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: not going to say it was exactly the same situation, 147 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: but did it remind you of a guy in Shay 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: Stadium keeping your season alive against the Mets and Dwight Gooden. 149 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: Oh, definitely. Sosia's home run was just amazing. And I'll 150 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: tell you what, Rojas, that pitch was a pretty nasty 151 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: pitch for him to pull and hit a home run, 152 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: and you know it was just I kind of like 153 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: Rojas's day. Man. That play a second base was amazing, 154 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: and that home run and you can see it lifted 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: the Dodgers. I mean it lifted their bench, It lifted 156 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: everything for them. So that was That's going to be 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: one of the most memorable home runs I think in 158 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: that series. 159 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: Mickey, you understand this. You were the leader of the 160 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: stuff man, a group of bench players in nineteen eighty 161 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: eight that if a guy got hurt all of a sudden, 162 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: you had to be ready or coming off the bench 163 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: to pinch it. You had an incredible World Series filling 164 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: in for Kirk Gibson. You hit three sixty eight. Arguably, 165 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, if it wasn't for fifty five, could have 166 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: been named the World Series MVP. But can you appreciate 167 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: how tough it was for Rojas not to play for 168 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: the entire World Series get in in Game six and 169 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: have such a huge impact in the last two games. 170 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 2: How do you do that? 171 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think you know, it's like, you know, 172 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: even when I was in the World Series, we had 173 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of guys we knew our career was coming 174 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: to an end, and this was our moment, and you 175 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: just stay into the moment and you take every advantage 176 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: you can to that moment. I think the same thing 177 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: with Rojas. You know, he knows he's coming to the 178 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: end of the end of his career, and you know what, 179 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: he wanted to be ready, and he wanted that one 180 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: opportunity and he turned in to be about twenty five 181 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 3: year old kid and that those two innings, and it 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: was just a great moment for him. So no matter 183 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: how his his life goes on, or whether he's going 184 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: to retire or whether he's going to try to keep playing, 185 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 3: this is going to be remembered in his family and 186 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: his life, and it's just a great feeling. 187 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: Mickey Hatcher, you were on Mike's Socio's coaching staff with 188 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: the two thousand and two Angels that found a way 189 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: to come back so many times in that seven game 190 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: win over the Giants, and O two did this World 191 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: Series remind you of that seven game World Series win 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: by the Angels. 193 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm telling you what we just Mike did a 194 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: great job with those players and putting them together and 195 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: from the start of the season teaching them what it. 196 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Took to win. 197 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 3: And we had to do the little thing just like 198 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: the Dodgers had to do to win this game. And 199 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: you know, it was just watching those guys go through 200 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: get out there in game six. Uh, you know when 201 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: we were down and even when Dusty Baker went out 202 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: to the mound to take the guy uh can remember 203 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: the pitcher's name out, or to see our players say 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: we're going to win this game. We're going to win 205 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: this game. And I think sitting back as a coach 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: and seeing your players still having that energy to want 207 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: to win that game means a lot to you. 208 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Ramon Ortiz, right, Mike, Daddy, he took out. 209 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 3: And hello Russ Russ Russe or Teeth Russell, te Rush 210 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: Russell t Yes, yeah, yes, And do. 211 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: You remember the feeling that you had before Game seven? 212 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: Could you as you're as you're watching Game seven start 213 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: in Toronto, do you have some of those same feelings 214 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: that you had maybe managing Game seven in two thousand 215 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: and two, what Dave Roberts maybe going. 216 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: Through Well, you know, you're you're you're so busy and 217 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: good busy because you're getting uh, you know, you're getting 218 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 1: everything together, you're getting your matchups, you're getting uh you know, 219 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: you've already done all your scouting and everything and your 220 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: pitcher and catcher should be on the same page. Uh, 221 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: So you're ready for this game to start. I think 222 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: that little anxiety like you're saying, let's get going, let's 223 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: get going. Uh, you just want to You just want 224 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: to get going and and and get get some momentum 225 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: built and hopefully win a game. 226 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 227 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: But but you know you're you're you're still doing so 228 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: much David to prepare up until you know, you take 229 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: the field. And I think it just keeps you saying 230 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: so you're not dwelling on things too much. But we uh, 231 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, the team. One of the things I really 232 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: liked about the Dodger club. I mean you talked about 233 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: key k and being able to just use his experience. 234 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: These guys played free, and I mean they they didn't 235 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: play with with with with any burden of maybe if 236 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: they if they missed a play or or if they 237 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: were going to make a play, they played aggressively. Of defense, 238 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: they played aggressively run the base and in the batter's box. 239 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: And that's the same thing, you know two with our club. 240 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Our club was very aggressive in every aspect of it. 241 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: They didn't think about making mistakes. They thought about making plays. 242 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's when it comes down to crunch 243 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: time and everyone's going to point to a lot of 244 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: the things that happened in that game. The Dodgers made plays, 245 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: and I think what you're alluded to with kick Hernandez 246 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: in left field, he knew when he caught that ball 247 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: exactly where he was throwing it. Rohaus made a great pick, 248 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: doubled off the runner, and the games over. So I 249 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: think that had a lot to do with why they 250 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: you know, why they played so well. 251 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: Mike Soosie and Micky Hatcher are joining us on Dodger Talk, 252 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: all right. I want to go back to when you 253 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: guys were on the same staff, Mike the manager, Mickey 254 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: the hitting coach, because this year when the Dodgers played 255 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: the Angels, I was privy to a conversation of Dino 256 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Ebel and Tim Salmon praising Mike Soosha and Micky Hatcher 257 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: just about the message you guys sent, the tone, especially 258 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: Mike at the beginning of the season where you needed 259 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: team at bats, whether it was Albert Poolhols, Mike Trout, 260 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Tim Salmon, Garan Anderson Mickey, do you remember those type 261 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: of meetings that Mike would have and did you see 262 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: some of those team at bats from guys like Otani 263 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: and Freeman that reminded you of the message you guys had. 264 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we had an opportunity to go in 265 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: there and see the players and have you know, a 266 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: year under our bell watching these guys play. And I 267 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: remember in the offseason, Mike before spring training says, we 268 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: got to get these guys together. They don't know how 269 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: to win, and and and he proceeded with the game 270 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: plan of you know, we've got to move runners. The 271 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: worst scenario, we got a runner in second base, we 272 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: got to get them to third. We got to score them. 273 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: We got to move runners over. You know, we we've 274 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: got to play that type of game, knowing to use 275 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: the big part of the field in those situations and 276 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: not just to give away in at bat, give yourself 277 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: an attempt to get a hit, but get the job done. 278 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: And uh, in spring training, these guys started doing it. 279 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: We said, hey, these bats don't count. Uh, you know, 280 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: Mike had the meeting and we said I applied it 281 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: as a hitting coach and said, hey, we're going in 282 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: the spring training these had bats don't count, but this 283 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: is what we're going. And and uh, these guys start 284 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: doing it. And you know, here guys moving a runner 285 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: to third base for the other guy to get an RBI. 286 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: You see him start giving knuckles and they got really 287 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: into it, and it was amazing. And when we started 288 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: the season, we probably had the worst record the starting 289 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: the season. What was our record, Mike when we were 290 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: started the season fourteen? Yeah, we were struggling, yeah, fourteen. 291 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: And then but the guys they kept doing it. Yeah, yeah, 292 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: they kept doing it. You know, Mickey remember with Troy Gloss. 293 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: It was funny. We're talking about move and runners a 294 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: guy on second and Troy saying Troy says, he goes, Mike, 295 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I can't hit a ground ball a second, I said, 296 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: And Mickey goes, Troy, we're not asking. We don't want 297 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: you hit a ground ball a second if we're on 298 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: the other team. And hit her like you hit the 299 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: ground ball to second. With a guy on second, we're saying, 300 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: thank you, we want you knock down the centerfield wall. 301 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: We want you to hit the ball left center centerfield, 302 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: use a big part of the field. And he exhaled. 303 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: He goes, oh, thank you, Okay. 304 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: I can do that. 305 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: And U and Tim Sabon, Tim Savon and spring training 306 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: and a guy was on second base and uh and 307 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: he hit a ball off the batter's eye in center field. 308 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: And he came back and he goes, should I apologize? 309 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: And I said, heck no, you shouldn't apologize. I said, 310 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: I said, it's a big part of the field. If 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: you hit it out of the ballpark, it's a beautiful thing. 312 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: I said that. 313 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: You know that. 314 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. But you know, the big 315 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: thing was these guys. These guys, they they understood it 316 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: and they played great baseball, and they really blended with 317 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: great base running, situational hitting and plug when we look 318 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: about you talk about the middle of the lineup, and 319 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: you had you know, Ga and and Tim Salmon and 320 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Gloss and our stat up at hitting second and ex 321 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Stein leading off. These guys fed the whole lineup and 322 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: and and it was really a It was really a 323 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: lineup that was I think very underrated. But these guys 324 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: are one of the top lineups in baseball for a 325 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: number of years, and they showed it in O two. 326 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: Do you guys still believe if you were on the 327 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: same staff, with the way the game has been played 328 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: the last ten something years, do you think players would 329 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: still be open to Mikesoshi Mickey Hatcher saying, Hey, I 330 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: need twenty five team at bats the entire year. I 331 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: need twenty five team at bats. Do you feel like 332 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: that would still be in play today? 333 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's some different philosophies out like strikeouts 334 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: another out, which I don't know what Moron came up 335 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: with that line a strikeouts not just another out. But 336 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: I think what I think, I think what's important is 337 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, like like I say, you talk to Darren 338 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Nurseat who was a great team player. Anyway, he would 339 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: do it anyway he's gonna get he's gonna go with 340 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: six hundred plate appearances, and we would talk to these guys. 341 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna get six hundred plate appearances 342 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: if you don't have the twenty five team at bats. 343 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: That we're talking about to where you get two strikes, 344 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, you got to shorten it up and pull 345 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: the ball in the ground if you're er stat or 346 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: ga to get a guy from from second to third, 347 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: you know, and and two strikes, shorten it up and 348 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: maybe hit that sack fly instead of and take the RBI. 349 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: But you're not trying to hit home run, then that's 350 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: on you. And I think as you communicate with these guys, 351 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: and I think you know, there there's a lot of 352 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: baseball players understand that part of it. There's a lot 353 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: of guys that are not going to strike down those situations. 354 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: And I think that that those are the guys that 355 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: stand out, and you just know they're going to help 356 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: their team win. And as I said, you're gonna get 357 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: six hundred plate appearances. For most of the player appearances, 358 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: you're free to swing and do whatever you want. But 359 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: with that team at bat and it presents itself to you, 360 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: we need it. And and I think I think guys, 361 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think ball players now would would rally 362 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: around that and would embrace that. Also. 363 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: Do you remember those those talks, Mickey, And do you 364 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: believe that in today's game that players would accept that 365 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: as well. And did you see it from the Dodgers 366 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: in twenty five? 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 3: You start seeing it on more teams now, you really do. 368 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: You start seeing a little bit more bunning. You start 369 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: seeing it. But you know, it's like Mike says, I mean, 370 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: come on, a two strike approach, you know, that's when 371 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: you got to like get up there and battle with 372 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: that picture. And it's just a swing and misses that 373 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: are are just amazing to me, especially on pitches that 374 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: are right there with two strikes. And you know that 375 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: was Mike's biggest, biggest thing was, Hey, come on, guys, 376 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: two strikes, you know, maybe come off the knob. We've 377 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: we've got a bad up there. We've got to put 378 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: that ball in play. And uh, you know, strikeouts, that's 379 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: just an easy out for anything. You put a ball 380 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: in play. They can make an air, they can throw 381 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: it away, they can there's a lot of scenarios that 382 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: could happen. Uh, you know that can't happen if you're 383 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: slinging miss. 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Dave Roberts is actually one of the managers that are 385 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: active today that actually echoes what you guys have said. 386 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Well, I know, Dave, I know he was that type player, 387 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: and he understands it. And I think you see players, 388 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean you see Will Smith choking up and putting 389 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: the bamb play in some of the situations, you know, 390 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman, I mean, these guys are professional hitters, even 391 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: you know Show hey, he he's got such an a 392 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: great idea of what to do in the battle box. Mookie, 393 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, Mookie bets same way. Mickey and I were 394 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: contact hitter. So we had a guy on third base 395 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: and less than two outs, and if we struck out, 396 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: which you know sometimes it happens, sometimes you just get beat. 397 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: We you know, we were we were upset with ourselves. 398 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Well we we were more upset because we knew what 399 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: was waiting for us in the dugout from Togo Lasorda 400 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: as we're walking back and here I'm walking back on 401 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: the dugout and you can see you can see Tommy 402 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: turning purple like like just saying, what's the ball in play? 403 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And you know that was that 404 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: was the worst part of you know, the worst part 405 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: about striking out in the situation like that. 406 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: All right, before I let you guys go, You're not 407 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: answering this question, Mike. This is only for Mickey Hatcher. 408 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Mickey Hatcher, Okay, there was a manager with the Angels 409 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 2: manage one team for nineteen years, had unprecedented success. For 410 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: those nineteen seasons, he won more games than any other 411 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: Angels manager in the history of that franchise, sixteen hundred 412 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: and fifty wins, won the only World Series an Angels 413 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: franchise history. Don't you believe that guy should be in 414 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame as a manager And don't you 415 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: believe number fourteen should be retired in Anaheim? Mickey? 416 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: Oh, I do you know one thing that you and 417 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: you can hear how Mike speaks, and you know he 418 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: can remember a pitch forty years ago, what this guy 419 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: did and whatever. But he's always had a passion for 420 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: the game, and he's always wanted to win. You know, 421 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: there's you know, I don't care if you give him 422 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: the worst team in baseball. He's going to make him 423 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: learn how to win. And I think that that was 424 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: his passion as a manager. But he's the players really 425 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: respect him. He has that. You know, he's able to 426 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: bring him in the office and have the one on 427 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: one you know, like he's like their father. And that's 428 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: why I think you hear, like the Salmon's and the 429 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: Erstes and all those kind of guys, just how much 430 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: passion they had for Mike as a manager. I mean, 431 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: their career was probably one of the differences in that 432 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: they've ever had being playing baseball. And they'll tell you that, 433 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I think it's going to happen 434 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: for Mike. But I think in baseball, uh, he's well known. 435 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: You go to an event and all these players from 436 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: different teams or whatever they want to go and and 437 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: talk to Mike and and and listen to his uh 438 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: philosophies and stuff like that, and uh, you know, he 439 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: just has a passion and uh and that's going to 440 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 3: take him a long ways. And I do. 441 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: But can I answer that question? 442 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: No, No, because I know it. 443 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Mike shut up. 444 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: That was my turn. 445 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Let me just say this real quick. I know you 446 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: got to cut us up, but real quick, I want 447 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: to say this. You know, this game is about playing it. 448 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: This game isn't about coaching and managing it. When you're 449 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: in the backyard with your brother and you're playing just 450 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're just playing baseball with him and you're 451 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: making up situations, you're the one up at bat with 452 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: three two bases loaded, and you hit the home run 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: to win the game like Freddie Freeman did or Kirk 454 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: Gibson didd and and uh, you know you're the one 455 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: that hits it. You're out the one managing and putting 456 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: guys in. So for me and I know Micky is 457 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: the same way. We loved playing the game. We and 458 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: we love playing the game for the Dodgers. 459 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 460 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: And that's a special feeling of of of of playing 461 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: the game that you can take with you. 462 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 3: Now. 463 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: We like coaching, I love managing, but it doesn't compare 464 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: to playing the game. And that's where our hearts are 465 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: is really as ballplayers, and in particular with the Dodgers, 466 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: we had great experience and uh fortunately you know one 467 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: won some championships there and that's what we'll we'll take 468 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: for over with us. And that means what means the 469 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: most to me. 470 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: That's why you're special. Okay, if you're if you're a player, 471 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: you love the player. I want you in the Legends 472 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: of Dodger Baseball. I want you wearing a blue coat 473 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: one day. And I would love to have as many 474 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: stunt men put in as legends of Dodger baseball as well, 475 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: just the group of the stuntmen and Mike Soosha, how 476 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: about that. 477 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: I like the stumpman getting in because those guys, those 478 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: guys were huge for us in eighty eight. And all 479 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: the pieces fit. And you know, you said one time 480 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: that we might have been the you know, David, you 481 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: say we might have been the worst World Series team, 482 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: Dodger team. 483 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: I did not say that. Bob Costa said. 484 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't care what Bob Costas does. You repeated it, 485 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: and let me tell you what the pieces fit. We 486 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: were a great team that had a tremendous pitching staff, 487 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: great bullpen, and players like the stump men that played free, 488 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: They played loose, They did whatever. Whatever the situation was 489 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: that Tommy wanted to do, he could do because we 490 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: all had the back control to do it. And going 491 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: down the whole lineup, we would get bunts down. We 492 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: could hit and run. We put the ball in play 493 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: with two strikes, and once in a while you hit 494 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: the ball good and went out of the park. And 495 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: I think that as you talk about the stumpman in 496 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: that group with Mickey and and Rick Dempsey and and 497 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: Danny Heap and Dave and I know I'm leaving missing somebody, Mickey, 498 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: but you guys, you guys were so important does not 499 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: only during the season, but in the playoffs and and 500 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: and uh and and we were. We were terrific team 501 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: in eighty eight. 502 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 503 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: Very underrated as to the talent on the team and 504 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: how it worked and how we played. And I just 505 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: don't like you, David, saying we're one of the worst 506 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: Championship Dotor teams on paper. 507 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 508 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: I never said that. 509 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: I said wins, Mike, we had ninety one. 510 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: How many wins? 511 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: We had? 512 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: Ninety something wins? 513 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: You were? 514 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, ninety four great wins. You guys were, David. 515 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: The Mets were Goliath, the A's were Goliath. Nobody thought 516 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: you guys could beat them. You know, I was getting 517 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: phone calls as a ten year old by adults just 518 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: like you know, mocking my Dodgers at that point in time, 519 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: and I said, you just wait, this team can do it. 520 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: So it wasn't a slight to call you David. David's 521 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: a great name, yea, A great biblical reference. 522 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're trying to you're trying to worm yourself out. 523 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: Of that one. 524 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: I see as always. 525 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 526 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: I just punch my way out of the corner. Hey, 527 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, I might sign up for this fantasy camp 528 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: just so I could be there, maybe to be managed 529 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: or coached by Mickey Hatcher and Mike Soosha. How about that. 530 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I can only picture you in 531 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: a baseball uniform running around, and I'm about to start 532 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: laughing right now. 533 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll wear number nine one day and number fourteen 534 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: another day. How about that? 535 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Oh, I'll tell you you're if you're playing defense, you 536 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: better have shing guards on, wear a batting helmet out 537 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: there in the field, and have a double cup on. 538 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Because I don't know what's going to happen to you, David. 539 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: You guys, I will say this, and I don't care 540 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: what my wife thinks. Nineteen eighty eight was the greatest 541 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: year of my life. To this day, I will say 542 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: that flat out. You guys brought baseball to life for 543 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: so many of us and made so many of us 544 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: young people in Los Angeles in nineteen eighty eight fall 545 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: in love with the Dodgers and fall in love with 546 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: the game of baseball. And you guys were two huge 547 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 2: parts of the Dodgers and you guys. As long as 548 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing this, nobody will forget the eighty eight Dodgers 549 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: as great as you were. And nobody will forget Mike's 550 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: Osha and Mickey Hatcher and the rest of you guys. 551 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, David. It was a special year for 552 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: all of us, that's for sure. 553 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: All right, Mike can't wait to come over me and Mickey. 554 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: What time do you want us over for Christmas? We 555 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: look forward to it. 556 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: We celebig Christmas on the twenty six, So come on 557 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: over there. 558 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Merry Christmas. 559 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, bye, all right, bye. 560 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: There they go, Mickey Hatcher and Mike's Sooshia. That was awesome. 561 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: That was definitely a bucket list. It's one thing to 562 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: interview one of them, but both of them together. Just Spectac, 563 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. When we come back, your 564 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: phone calls, and also we'll get to my conversation with 565 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: Keike Hernandez coming up from this past Saturday at the 566 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Polo Ralph Lauren store. They treated us great, trust us great, 567 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to share Keik with you as well. 568 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: Mike Soshia, Mickey Hatcher, forever Dodgers,