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Speaker 1: receiving the Americans for Prosperity endorsement just last Tuesday with

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Speaker 1: for Numbers District seven. Welcome to the program, Zach Haynes.

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Speaker 1: It's a real pleasure to you have you, I should

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Speaker 2: Good to hear from me, Zach. Happy Monday, Brian, Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year. I got to tell you and your listeners

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Speaker 2: the worst nightmare I have ever had. That Amy Acton

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Speaker 2: do that. I holy support Vvek and my God is

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Speaker 2: refreshing to have an entrepreneur and an outsider running for

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Speaker 1: Well, an entrepreneur also running for District seven Senate Seed.

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Speaker 1: Apparently you have quite a business and very successful business background.

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Speaker 1: That's such an important thing for an elected official. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent, Brian. Look, I'm a father two boys,

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Speaker 2: news flash, you don't get a bailout. All right? You fail?

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Speaker 2: All right? Government needs to start working like a business.

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Speaker 2: I'm not running for office for the state Senate to

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen government from the inside. We've seen

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Speaker 2: But what we're seeing is people in the state are

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Speaker 2: than eighty endorsements from conservatives at every level, from Congressman

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Speaker 2: groups like Ohio Value Voters, which is a pro life,

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Speaker 2: So I'm ready to shake things up and we need

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue to bring Zach Haynes back and

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Speaker 1: More with Zach Kines, stick around. It's eight thirty five

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Speaker 1: Hey, thirty eight fifty five krs C D talk station.

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with state Senate candidate. His name Zach Kynes.

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Speaker 1: He's already seen AFP's endorsement. If you listen to the

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Speaker 1: That's like the good housekeeping stamp of political approval right there.

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Speaker 1: So real quick, here a regular topic of conversation, most

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Speaker 2: And you know what it starts with. It starts with caring.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, honestly, sir, I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: for the overlap. That's a sound, simple, easily sellable concept

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Speaker 2: But I'm not running I say this with all humility.

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Speaker 2: I'm not running for a paycheck and to get a pension.

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Speaker 2: I believe maybe I'm old fashioned, but you have to

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Speaker 2: so many resources, but we're strangling ourselves. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: Well, he mentioned the idea of ultimately eliminating income tax.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So look, I've called hundreds and hundreds of voters

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Speaker 2: It's not right. And so I am one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have thought the declaration by the High

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Speaker 2: I do not get how that's tweeping under the rug

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Speaker 2: Zach And.

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Speaker 1: I guess finally, well again, I'll I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: Well let me and let me just say this, Brian,

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Speaker 2: as a business guy, you can spell Hanes anyway you want,

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Speaker 2: redirector so you'll find me. Okay, that's called entrepreneurial out

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Speaker 2: of the box thing, right. The our government needs more

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Speaker 1: But anyway, end to that, and I guess what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: competitive as we could be. That's that capitalistic entrepreneurial element

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Speaker 1: that I hear in your voice and in your proposal.

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Speaker 2: Sir.

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Speaker 1: We need to run the state like we are in

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Speaker 1: for everybody. So run it like an operation. You need

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Speaker 1: to watch your pennies and your dollars and and well

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Speaker 1: bring some prosperity to the citizens who pay the taxes.

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Speaker 1: Zach Haynes Hanes for Ohio dot Com. It's been great

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Speaker 1: having you on. Congratulations on the great endorsements you've got.

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Speaker 1: That's wonderful hitting, you know, hitting the ground running, and

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Speaker 1: I'll look forward to having you on the program a

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Speaker 1: lot between now and November.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian. In The district is all of Warren County

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Speaker 2: So if you live in sim Sycamore Blue As Montgomery Sharonville, Evendale,

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Speaker 2: Deer Park. That's District seven, So have an election on

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Speaker 2: May fifth. Would appreciate everybody's support. And yeah, Brian, other states.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm a big believer in federalism at

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Speaker 2: the moment. There's things that we can learn from other states.

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Speaker 2: But I also agree with the Vivek that we need

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Speaker 2: to look at our own ingenuity and come up with

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Speaker 2: a lot of things we need to implement that we

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Speaker 2: can fix in Ohio. So look forward to serving. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to calling you my senator since I'm

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Speaker 1: in the geographic territory you just described District seven. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk again, Zach, have a great week, my friend. Eight

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