1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Eight three three four one two wxdx. The number to call, 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: that's eight three to three four one two w xdx. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of psyched for the Super Bowl. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna be watching it at celebrations in Imperial, So 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: come out and join me for a watch party for 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the big game between Seattle and New England. I don't 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: know who's gonna win. I mean, Seattle's a better team. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Two great stories. At quarterback, is May the next Brady 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Darnald after failing for so long these first three teams. 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: And he was great at Minnesota. They apparently didn't quite 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: believe the one season he had there. They should have 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: franchised him, no doubt about that. And now he's in 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Seattle long term, good money and in the Super Bowl. 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Seattle's got that great defense. Like I said, you can 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: watch the game with me at celebrations in Imperial. 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: It's an intriguing game. Saddle's great defense. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: Boy, that that could be well, I mean, that's Captain 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Obvious material, but that could easily be the defense. You 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: know what's weird, though, Maybe you can tell me why 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl doesn't seem to have the buzz of 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: a lot of Super Bowls. You know what a surprise 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh ain't talking about. If New England wins, they have 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls, that's the most ever. That would be 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: one more than the Steelers. I think Steeler fans kind 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: of blocked that out of their minds because they don't 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: want to accept it. And Brady won a seventh ring 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: with Tampa, so it feels like he already beat the 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Steelers out as an individual. Here's a good question too, 29 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: that you won't have the balls to answer as we 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: approach this Super Bowl, and we've seen some real good 31 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: playoff games, not not great teams, but evenly matched teams 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: and certainly very good teams. I don't think there's a 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: single great team in the league this year, and I 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: think Seattle might be the closest, but we'll see about 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: that on Sunday. But as we approach the Super Bowl, 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: do you understand how far away the Steelers are? 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 2: Because they are. 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: We got Jerry Dulac up next, well, not up next, 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: We've got calls on the fifteens up next, call. 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: A three three four one two wsdx. 41 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: It looks like the Steelers coaching staff is about complete. 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: It's a bit bigger than with Tomlin, maybe you've got 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: a chief of staff, defensive passing gening coordinator. Like I said, 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: more coaches, we think, more specific jobs. So obviously they're 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender. Let's face it, there's no real 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: way to evaluate that staff. 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: We don't know. 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: How will bed in and how they'll get the most 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: out of the talent they have. I will say that 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson says McCarthy gives his offensive coordinator a lot 52 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: to do, and that Angelicio is up for that job. 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: He'll put in the work. 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: What you wonder is how many of these hires were 55 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: their first choices. Like I read one of the usual 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Steelers mouthpieces said that they didn't offer the job to Tolzine. 57 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: I just don't believe that. 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: I just don't believe that he would have been a 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: great choice, a better choice than Angelicio. But whatever, whatever 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: stooge is gonna stooge. Like I said, watch the Big 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Game with me at celebrations in Imperial, Da, Da Da. 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Remember those margin commercials on Sunday. And of course we 63 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: got the Penguins tonight against Buffalo. We'll talk about that 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: sum as well the rest of this show. I'm all 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: over the place that's all right, speaking of all over 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: the place, not only du Lac. At four thirty, we 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: got Red Beach guitars for the newly re entered into 68 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: the Fray Winger and uh, the defunct Whitesnake. He's doing 69 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: a comedy show coming up on the twelfth next week, 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: him and our buddy Don Jamison, who will join us 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: next week, I think. But that's a Pittsburgh brewing company 72 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: in creating on February twelve, So Red Beach just after 73 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: the list at five o'clock. And the Pirates lied to you, 74 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: their media eye to you. But that's okay, You're stupid. 75 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: Get your calls in now eight three three, four one 76 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: two w XDX. 77 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: What's a super genius? 78 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Mark mad doing good Mace is always a component of 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: any nice state. 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for making my day. Yeah what you said? 81 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: The exit one oh five nine, No calls. 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: For calls on the fifteens. I wasn't going to talk 83 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: about this, but I am. You know. 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: My ratings are still real high. 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: They're not as high as they were, and part of 86 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that that is, I think down the dial they just 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: talk about the Steelers NonStop. That is their organizational dictum 88 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: that they have to talk about the Steelers. They do 89 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: token stuff on other things, but it's all Steelers all 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: the time, and it's so repetitive. 91 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: And I'll be blunt. 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of you are really stupid and 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: you just put on Steeler Talk's background noise and you're 94 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: good with that. 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna, not gonna ever ever. This show 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: interests me. First. 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: If you're too stupid to be interested by stuff that's 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: not just Steelers and quarterback all the time, then you 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: can go screw. 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: And that's the truth. You know what's funny. 101 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: I've always had such contempt for the audience, but it's 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: really served me well. You can call off you want. 103 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: If not f off eight three three four one two WXDX. 104 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: Let's talk about something I like to talk about, the Penguins. 105 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: You gotta like how the Penguins have done to this point. 106 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: The goaltending has been upgraded. From ask Edmonton, they'll tell you. 107 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: The defensive corps looked like it would be among the 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: league's worst. That's what I thought before the season started. 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: But it's been okay, maybe even a bit better for 110 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: very balanced lines, although with the injuries tonight it's going 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: to be catch as catch can before the Olympic break starts. 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: This is the Penguin's final game, of course, excellent special 113 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: teams number four on the power Play, number three on 114 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: the PK. Muse is doing okay for first year coach. 115 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: He's learning on the fly, but doing it. Systems are 116 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: solid and the players have bought in. Dubus has been amazing. 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: China Koff is. 118 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: A get for the Ages. 119 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: There are some inconsistent games and inconsistencies within games, but 120 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: that's to be expected with that roster. I don't like 121 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: the lack of development. I thought this was going to 122 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: be a more kids oriented year and that's not happened. 123 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: Beyond Kendall, who's been just tremendous, Brunic and Coven and 124 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: aren't here. Mcgroarty's been a scratch lately, although it seems 125 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: he's going to play tonight. It looks like a playoff team, 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: but that's far from decided. Be happy, but unassuming, Be 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: optimistic but cautious. But if you if you think this 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: team can make a run in the playoffs, I think 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: it's way too early to predict that. But the Penguins 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that the fifth fewest losses in regulation. My math might 131 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 1: be a erroneous but I think they have the fifth 132 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: Highes percentage of points one in regulation. That's pretty good. 133 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: And in the playoffs if they make it, there are 134 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: no shootouts and overtime is not three on three with 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the Penguin stink at they don't do in the playoffs. 136 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: Let's go to Joe, Joe, it's up. 137 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Today. 138 00:07:59,200 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Great. 139 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: I wouldn't mention that miracle documentary. I watched that last 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: night and certainly wasn't sort of pulling at the heartstrings moments, 141 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 5: but one of. 142 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Them, I mean, but how could it not. 143 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean that that's the most memorable thing that's ever 144 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: happened in sports history anywhere in the world. 145 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but it just is. 146 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 147 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: The one moment I really liked it. I've never seen 148 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: before is when they interviewed Ralph Cox on being the 149 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: last player cut. 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've not seen Ralph on video, but I've 151 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: read quotes from him and you know, him telling Herb 152 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna win the gold medal, you know, him, 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: him and him him trying to boost herbs spirits. When 154 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: when Cox was the last guy cut, It's worth remembering 155 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: that Herb was the last guy cut in nineteen sixty, 156 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and they didn't go into the circumstances with that. It 157 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: was even a little more diabolical that the two of 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the best players on that nineteen sixty team were the 159 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Christian brothers, Billy and Dave. I think I think Dave 160 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: was Dave's kid that played for the eighty team. But 161 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: they had the Christian brothers. You know, they manufactured the 162 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: hockey sticks later on. And yeah, and one joined the 163 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: team late, you know what I mean. He just decided 164 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: very close to the Olympics he wanted to play. So 165 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Herb was not only the last guy cut. He made 166 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: it and then got cut. I noticed that, and that's 167 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: why Herb went out of his way to not befriend 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: the players so he could be absolutely fair. Because Herb 169 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: never said it, because Herb was far from a whiner. 170 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: It's like Herb's dad said when they won the golden 171 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: medal in sixty. Herb's dad said to him, right then 172 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: and there, they must have cut the right guy. But 173 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: but Herb didn't feel he was treated fairly, and so 174 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: bent over backwards to make sure he did. 175 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Let's go to Seth and Harmer. 176 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Seth around with double M. 177 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: Good day, sir, I said, good day. 178 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: About the Penns. I agree with you about kind of 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 7: to see more out of the youth movement outside of Kendall. 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 7: The only question I really had was like, if they 181 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 7: brought a guy like mus In, who was supposedly a 182 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 7: developmental guy, what was the goal, Like, even if it 183 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 7: was the front office, what was their goal at the 184 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: start of the year. Were they just thinking they were 185 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 7: going to be a lottery team or did they think 186 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 7: they were going to be in the middle of it. 187 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I think they initially thought they were going to trade 188 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: guys like we're Kell and Rust, either at the deadline 189 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: or even before that. But when Brissan talked about maybe 190 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: trading Sid, you know, Sid's agent, when he did his 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: sermon on the mind about how Sid deserves to be 192 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that rattled the Penguins. There's no question 193 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: it rattled the management and ownership and gave them pause, 194 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: which has led them to where they are now, which 195 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: I guess is a happy medium. But it's not been 196 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: the developmental year i'd hoped for. 197 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 198 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 7: I think the one plus you can say though, is 199 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 7: that the young guys are learning how to win on 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 7: the fly too, like kind of how muse is kind 201 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 7: of learning on. 202 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: The slide, and you know, Wilkes is doing great. 203 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: They're like thirty four to ten and something down there 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: their record or thirty fourteen or whatever, their records through 205 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: the roof. And the young guys, I mean, Tanner Howe 206 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: who had been hurt knee injury for almost a year. 207 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: He's back. 208 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: He scored his first professional goal last night. There's no 209 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: question that things are going good. Just I mean, I 210 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: still am disappointed that coyvenan didn't live up to his 211 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: end of the bargain, but maybe he didn't get the chance, 212 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: the length of chance I would have given him. I 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: would have mc groarty in there automatically that's not been 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: the case. But given the standings, I kind of get it. 215 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brad. 216 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, what's our mark? Yeah, I'm just saying you just 217 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 8: said it that the Pats have six, We got six. 218 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 8: We need to make sure the pass don't win. 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: So let's go Hawks, right, No, I couldn't care less. 220 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 8: Oh come on, man, let's do it. Come on Hawks 221 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 8: all day. 222 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: I haven't decided who I bet on them. Maybe I'll 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: bet on the Hawks. Would that make you happy. 224 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 8: I mean it would maybe happy, but we still want 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 8: to pass the take over SEO. We no, Brad's just seven, 226 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 8: no problem whatever, Hawks all day. 227 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: See, I just don't care. 228 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you're being very persuasive, but like, like, why 229 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: can't we just hope Liverpool like wins Champions League. 230 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 8: Well we can have Liverpool win Champions League also and 231 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 8: the Hawks also win the bull. 232 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just stick with Liverpool. 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Ville 272 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: mannis for whacking McAvoy in the head with the chicken 273 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: wing last night. No official word on whether McAvoy will 274 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: play for the US indi Olympics, but no word that 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: he's not either. But the Steelers off season is in 276 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: high gear and we got the Super Bowl on Sunday. 277 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Joining me not to discuss it. He covers the Black 278 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and Gold for the Post Cazette. He's Jerry Dulac. 279 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: Jerry. 280 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Now that the dust is settled, what's your take on 281 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers coaching staff? 282 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: Well, Mark, you know, I will say this. You know 283 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: about the overall nature of the staff, which you hear 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 6: people complain again about which I don't really put a 285 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: lot of stuck in, but this is what you hear that, Oh, 286 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 6: he's hiring a lot of his old cronies, you know, 287 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 6: these older guys with the veteran experience or the too 288 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 6: old I don't know what they want. I don't know 289 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 6: what they want to college staff of kids right out 290 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 6: of school or something. But that's typically what every coach does. 291 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 6: He hires the people that he worked with, that he 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 6: knows and that he can trust, and so when you 293 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 6: see him reaching into his past Packerd days and to 294 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 6: his days with the Cowboys, that shouldn't be surprising to anybody. 295 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 6: I like the hiring of Patrick Graham considering like, okay, 296 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 6: what's out there, what's out there that's proven and yeah, 297 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 6: Patrick Graham, Yeah, the Raiders statistically weren't very good, but 298 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 6: Mark the coach is only as good as the players 299 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 6: around him. And there's not a whole lot on the 300 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 6: Raiders defense other than Max Cruft. And so anytime Patrick 301 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: Graham was with a staff that was let go, he's 302 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 6: immediately caught on. He is a highly regarded coach. So 303 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with that defensive hire. And 304 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 6: in terms of the offensive coordinator, look, that's going to 305 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 6: be Mike McCarthy anyhow. But you know, when you look 306 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 6: at his last two quote offensive coordinators, they've each went 307 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: on to be head coaches. Now I know they were 308 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 6: younger than than this guy, than than Brian Angela Angelicio, 309 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 6: But I don't have a problem with him because Mike 310 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 6: McCarthy effectedly he's going to be the offensive coordinator, and 311 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 6: the other ones James Campen. When you look at the 312 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: key positions James campon Uh, a guy who's always been 313 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 6: regarded as a good offensive line coach. The Steelers actually 314 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 6: looked at him a couple of years ago and and 315 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 6: and talked to him about coming in as their offensive 316 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 6: line coach, and you know the rest of it, the 317 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 6: defensive line. I was a little surprised at the Motepeco. 318 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: You know, a guy who hasn't been a coach a 319 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: long time, but he must come highly recommended. And so 320 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 6: you know, how how do you evaluate assistance mark? Who 321 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 6: knows who's a good one, who's a bad one, Because 322 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: it usually depends on how good, how good the talent 323 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 6: is that you have to work with. 324 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: So no, no question. 325 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I always used to say that Mike Munchak was obviously 326 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: a very good offensive line coach. Didn't hurt that he 327 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: had Ponci and the Castro in their primes. 328 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. But the other thing about Munchak is you 329 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 6: saw young guys that he had developed and like on 330 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 6: the defensive line for the Steelers, we haven't seen that. 331 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 6: So maybe Demonta Peco, even though he is he is 332 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 6: relatively new to NFL coaches relatively speaking, maybe he can 333 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 6: get and help the young guys to progress even more 334 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 6: and that that's going to be the key, and that's 335 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 6: what Munchak did. But but you're you're right about that 336 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 6: mark And so you know, I remember years ago, you know, 337 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 6: I was just talking about this earlier about the two 338 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 6: thousand and eight Super Bowl with the Arizona Cardinals. The 339 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 6: passing game wide receiver coach for the Arizona Cardinals was 340 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 6: a guy who coached for the Steelers. It helped out 341 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 6: went through the ranks by the name of Mike Miller. 342 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 6: And so Mike Miller had Larry Fitzgerald and Kwon Bolden 343 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 6: and Steve Preston. So when I him at the Super Bowl, 344 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: and I've known Mike a long time, I teasingly went 345 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: up to him and I said, Wow, Mike, you're doing 346 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 6: a great job coaching up those guys. Well, I mean, 347 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 6: you look at who you have to work with, and 348 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you know, is is it the 349 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 6: players or is it the coaches. It's like being Peyton 350 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 6: Manning's quarterback coach. Those guys went on to be head coaches, 351 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 6: Yeah because or there or his offensive coordinator. Yeah, because 352 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 6: it's Peyton Manning. Market's like being tourism director of Hawaii. 353 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: Uh I agree with all that. Let me just play 354 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: devil's advocate. 355 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: Though the Ravens, by contrast, had a few less proven hires, 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: including a twenty nine year old offensive coordinator. 357 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: Is it a matter with the Steelers have no risk 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: at no biscuit. I'm not saying bad hires, but definitely 359 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: save hires. 360 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 6: Well, I Mark, that seems to be the prevailing opinion, 361 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 6: and everybody, it's just like with Mike Tomlin. It's why 362 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 6: they're upset about the people who are upset about the 363 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy hiring. Oh here, we could just it's the 364 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 6: same old thing, a sixty two year old coach who's 365 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 6: been in the league. Everybody won this one to start 366 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: a new with a young guy. I get that the 367 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 6: Steelers have done that, They're previous three hires, going all 368 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 6: the way back to Chuck Noll, but they're in the 369 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 6: mindset of where they are. Five playoff appearances in six years, Mark. 370 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 6: The only team has done that in National Football League 371 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 6: more than the Steelers are the Buffalo Bills. And yet 372 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 6: we know what's happened one and done all those times, 373 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: seven straight playoff losses. But they believe they are right 374 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 6: there on the cusps, and they're not about to blow 375 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 6: it up. They're not about to take a little bit 376 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 6: more of a risk with the younger guy. They're coming 377 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 6: in with the proven guy because they think we're not 378 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 6: that far away. I'm not saying that they are or 379 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: they're not, but that's what they think, and so they 380 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: want to try and continue where they are and take 381 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 6: another step. That's what they've been doing the last couple 382 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 6: of years with these older quarterbacks. Now they're doing it 383 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 6: with an older coach and who relies on the people 384 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: that he knows, and he is bringing in a couple 385 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 6: guys from the college ranks, Mark and you know now, 386 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 6: but still you know it's I think he's trying to 387 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 6: get a good mix. He's bringing in another guy. I'm 388 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: still not sure I understand this higher to Steve Scarnekia 389 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 6: for whatever he's going to be, that's more off the 390 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 6: field stuff that's not going to effect on the field 391 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 6: per se. But I give him credit for taking a 392 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 6: chance on some guys and bringing in proven coaches that 393 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 6: he knows who they are. 394 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: Jer I agree with you on Patrick Graham, but I 395 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: think he has his work cut out for him too. 396 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: That's a very highly compensated veteran defense, and TJ. Watt 397 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: has resisted any attempt to change the way he plays. 398 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: How much can Patrick Graham really put his stamp on 399 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: that defense? 400 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: Well, it's going to be, you know, it depends on 401 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 6: the schemes he wants to run, Mark, and I'm not 402 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 6: going to sit here and pretend that I know what 403 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 6: they are because I don't. And it's how you're using 404 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 6: the people that you have. Is TJ. Watt all of 405 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 6: a sudden going to become a different player, No, he's not. 406 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: They're hoping TJ. Watt can become the old TJ. Watt 407 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 6: no matter how quote one dimensional that might be. And 408 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 6: we're not even seeing the production from him that we 409 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 6: are accustomed to, especially for the amount of money they're 410 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: paying them. But I think it's I think it's more 411 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 6: scheme related about how he wants to play a lot 412 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 6: of that's going to depend on the coverage in the 413 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 6: secondary Mark. You know, does he want to play more 414 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: of a two gap style, more of a one gap 415 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 6: style than the two gap style that the Steelers typically play. 416 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 6: I think that's what's going to reveal itself in terms 417 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: of how you know how good they can be. Let's 418 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 6: face it, Mark, they're not an elite defense, but they're 419 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: not terrible either. 420 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: What about an offense? How much will change there? 421 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Because I wonder about Rogers and his input assuming he 422 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: comes back. 423 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 6: Well, I don't think Rogers isn't going to have any 424 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 6: input in how they change. He may have input in 425 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: how they end up playing in terms of how he performs, 426 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: but I don't think there's any question even though Mike 427 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: McCarthy and he has always tried to run the ball. Look, 428 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: I think you're going to see the makeup of the 429 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 6: roster be different with them, Mark. I think you're going 430 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: to see a bigger emphasis on wide receivers and less 431 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 6: of an emphasis on running twelve and thirteen formations and 432 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 6: throwing it to the tight end at least three different 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: tight ends. I think you might see Pat Fryarnmuth be 434 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 6: more of a target in this offense with their offensive 435 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 6: coordinator and McCarthy. But I think the makeup of the 436 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 6: roster will be different and the way they approach it. 437 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 6: You know, Mark, the Packers used to can and I 438 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 6: think I've mentioned this to you before. The Packers would 439 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 6: keep like eight wide receivers on their roster. The Steelers 440 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 6: would keep four in a special teams guy. And you know, 441 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 6: if you have an injury, then you know, obviously it hurts, 442 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 6: especially if it's to a star guy. And they've always 443 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: believed man, they just keep rotating and running those wide 444 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 6: receivers in and out of the lineup. And I think 445 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 6: you'll see that change with Mike McCarthy. The Steelers still 446 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: want to run the ball. Does McCarthy want to run 447 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: the ball? Yeah, but you know, as long as he 448 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 6: gets that quarterback to the point where he's comfortable with 449 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 6: it or whoever that is, I think you will see 450 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 6: a different attack based on the roster. 451 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: Maker we're talking to. 452 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Doulac brought to us by bud Light, Easy to Drink, 453 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Easy to Enjoy. 454 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: Jerry Chris Long on NBC. 455 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Conjectured that if Minnesota called, Aaron Rodgers would rather play there. 456 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: Do you think that's a possibility. 457 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 6: I don't know why. Let me say this, Mark, I 458 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 6: can't answer that question fully. He had a bit of 459 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 6: that opportunity before the reason. Let me put it this way, 460 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers it will be very amenable to 461 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: returning to the Steelers if he wants to play, and 462 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 6: it won't be that prolonged decision that we saw last year. 463 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 6: And I say that because you know, when you look 464 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 6: at what he was deciding last year, that was coming 465 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 6: off two seasons with the New York Jets, two frustrating, 466 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 6: dysfunctional seasons with that franchise, Whereas now he's coming off 467 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 6: the season in which he really likes the players here. 468 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 6: The players really responded to him and really like him. 469 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 6: He loves the environment, and he liked being competitive again, 470 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: he liked being in a playoff game. And so to me, 471 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 6: if Aaron Rodgers still wants to play, he's going to 472 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 6: come back to the Steelers. Yeah, I know, he said 473 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 6: and Mike, and I've known the reason he came here 474 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 6: was Mike Tomlin, but there was more to it than 475 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 6: just Mike Tomlin. He really enjoyed his time here. So 476 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 6: I think it's more likely one that he's going to 477 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 6: come back than not. And two, if he does come back, 478 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 6: it's more likely that, yeah, he's going to come back 479 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 6: to the Steelers, and not necessarily to the Vikings as 480 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 6: long as JJ McCarthy is there, because if they believe 481 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 6: and I know he had a rough year, and maybe 482 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 6: that's what he's talking about. I don't know that they're 483 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 6: ready to give up on JJ McCarthy, and so why 484 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 6: would he walk into that situation where there's some debate 485 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 6: as to who the quarterback is going to be, whereas 486 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 6: right now there would be no debate on who the 487 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 6: starting quarterback's going to be, at least to begin the season. 488 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: We've heard Art Rooney and especially Mike McCarthy praised the 489 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: potential of Will Howard, But isn't that just lip service? 490 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: Jarry? 491 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: I can't see them even giving him consideration to start, 492 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: no matter who's here and who isn't When they talk 493 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: about not wanting to waste the season Mark. 494 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 6: I think it's somewhere between lips surface lip service and 495 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 6: some amount of consideration, because you know, there are things 496 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 6: to like about Will Howard, and right at the top, 497 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 6: despite the fact you've never seen him in the game, 498 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: but his ability, you know, he has that attitude and 499 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 6: that wherewithal his ability to perform on the biggest stage, 500 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 6: which he did do in college. You know, he's a 501 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: guy who obviously thrived in that environment. So they like 502 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 6: that kind of intangible about him, but there's no proof 503 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 6: at all other than being a scout team quarterback as 504 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 6: to whether he can be your guy or not. Now, 505 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 6: maybe they can read some of that and think, you know, 506 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 6: this guy has a chance, so based on some of 507 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 6: the things they see, But until you see him in 508 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 6: a game, Mark, you can't make a true evaluation of 509 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 6: the guy because then there's so many other factors, you know, 510 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 6: game speed, guys coming at you, you know, blitzes, pressure, 511 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: how you're going to respond, and they don't have any 512 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 6: proof of that. So I think it's more than just 513 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 6: lip service. But at this point, how could it be 514 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: serious consideration when you've never seen the guy play in 515 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: the game. 516 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: Are any veterans life malady get cut here? 517 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think yeah, Mark, I think so when you 518 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 6: look at the roster makeover excuse me, the last two 519 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 6: years for a team that made the playoffs and won 520 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 6: and done again, they're in the same situation. They are 521 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 6: not going to stand pat, Mark, They're going to bring 522 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 6: in some other players that they feel that they need 523 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 6: to get over the top. By over the top, I 524 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: mean win a playoff game and maybe they feel be 525 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 6: a serious, somewhat serious Super Bowl contender. So you're going 526 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 6: to see turnover and a roster. They're not going to 527 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 6: stand pat and you know, maybe they'll bring in a 528 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: veteran defensive lineman. Cam Ayway's going to be thirty seven, 529 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 6: someone better than Daniel Qualley. You know, they wanted to 530 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 6: do that last year. They've tried to get Javon Kinlaw 531 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 6: and right when they got interested in him, he signed 532 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 6: a big contract I think with the with the Washington Commanders. 533 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 6: He had been with the New York Jets, so they 534 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 6: wanted to bring in a player like that, and I 535 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 6: think you might see them try that again. I think 536 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: you're going to see a heavy emphasis certainly, and an 537 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 6: important big emphasis on a wide receiver in the draft, 538 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 6: probably if not their number one pick, their number one 539 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 6: a pick, depending on who. If there's no quarterback, it'll 540 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 6: be a wide receiver. So yeah, I think you'll see 541 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 6: I think you'll see guys get cut. I think you'll 542 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 6: see them move on from John new Smith. Why would 543 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: you not? And I think what's going to be a 544 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: important to Mark is what do you do with your 545 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 6: team MVP? And by that I mean with Kenny Gainwell, 546 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: he might decide to go the Justin Fields route and say, hey, 547 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 6: look I might want to see what I can get 548 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 6: in free agency. And you know, after the way he played, 549 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 6: he performed, you know, after making that catch in Detroit, 550 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 6: somebody go, well, this guy isn't bad, and they'll give 551 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: them twice or three times what was certainly twice what 552 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 6: the Steelers would be willing to pay him, especially after 553 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: they're going to pay Jalen Warren five point five million 554 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 6: next year. Now, I know that's not breaking the bank, 555 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 6: but that's not you know, that's not a veteran minimum 556 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 6: contract ivans. So that's another decision that you know, we'll 557 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 6: see how they play that. Do they bring back Isaac Sayamalo. 558 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 6: So I think those are some of the things that 559 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 6: you're going to see change on this roster. But you're 560 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 6: you're certainly not going to see them stand pat in 561 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 6: free agency again. I think you will see them maybe 562 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 6: not be as active as they were last year, maybe 563 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 6: even two years ago, but there they will be active again. 564 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Jerry, which of these guys benefits most from the coaching change? 565 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Pat Fryarmuth, Caleb Johnson, Roman Wilson. 566 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 6: Well Mark, that's a good question. I would you know, 567 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 6: off the top, I would say Friarmuth only because the 568 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 6: amount of targets and receptions that he's had last year 569 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 6: was was borderline disgraceful. So I'll say pat Fromer, but 570 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 6: I would say a guy like Roman Wilson who is 571 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 6: extremely athletic, and we have seen him Mark show that 572 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 6: athleticism and the ability to go get the football. Arthur 573 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 6: Smith wasn't a big fan of Roman Wilson. Don't ask 574 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: me why, but he wasn't. That doesn't mean Mike McCarthy 575 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: won't be. And and so he has a possibility, you know, 576 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 6: along with whoever else they draft to be part of 577 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 6: this six maybe seven wide receiver rotation that they have 578 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: on this football team. So and Caleb Johnson Caleb Johnson's role. 579 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: They're not going to move on from Caleb Johnson. But 580 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: if Kenny gain Well does decide he wants to go 581 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 6: test the market, now all of a sudden, Caleb Johnson 582 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: becomes maybe your number two running back. They're not ready 583 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 6: to give up on him, believe me. Uh So, I 584 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 6: don't know, but I don't know how it's going to 585 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: unpack him. I think Kenny Gainwell's decision and what they 586 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: do and will unpack Caleb Johnson a little bit more. 587 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Jerry is always great stuff. Enjoy the Super Bowl. We'll 588 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: do it again soon. 589 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: Hey Mark, good chat with you, my friend. 590 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: That's Jerry dol Like brought toast by bud Light, Easy 591 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: to drink, easy to enjoy, a lot of real good 592 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: stealer talk there. Right now, it's time to ask Mark Anything. 593 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: LA three three four one two wxdx. That's a three 594 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: three four one two wxdx. We got reb beach, white, 595 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: snake winger and now a comedian. He's doing a comedy 596 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: show with our buddy Don Jamison on the twelfth next 597 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: week at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton. 598 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: One O five nine The X. 599 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 9: It's time to submit your questions for Ask Mark Anything. 600 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 9: Use your free iHeartRadio app and SAP the microphone icon 601 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 9: to send your questions to the super Genius instantly. 602 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: It's the Hoodie Show weekday mornings at six. 603 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Listen to The X at home, at work, anytime on 604 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. 605 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: One O five nine d X. 606 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 9: Greetings from Nemacolin, a resort where the day is yours 607 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 9: to define a destination brimming with extraordinary adventures from year 608 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 9: round heated pools, skiing and snowboarding. 609 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: And now the super genius. Mark Madden, Hey, Mark, great, 610 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: you go when you got a young. 611 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Trophy White owes money to I can't even quote the 612 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: big o'boski right, goodbye DX at one oh five nine. 613 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: You want to ask part anything brought to us by 614 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: People's Natural Gas, People's Hypogas dot com. I'm getting a 615 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: lot of tweets because I've been making fun of the pirates, 616 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: almost getting Valdez and Schwarber. 617 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about that more at. 618 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Length, but I still got people telling me, yeah, they're 619 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna be great. You watch, Yeah, okay, well all watch. 620 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jeremy. Jeremy ask Mark anything. 621 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 6: Good day, mister Madden. 622 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: I said, good day. 623 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: I was just calling to see if you. 624 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 7: Had any information on the Uh there's I guess the 625 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 7: kle Jones suspension for pe. 626 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty games for use. He was recovering from that 627 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: foot surgery. I think it's surgery or broken foot. I mean, 628 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: whether he took that to help his recovery, I don't know, 629 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: but I mean he wasn't in the lineup much. What's 630 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: the difference? 631 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 7: Fair enough? 632 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: He's best known as Seth Jones little brother. 633 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and even Sethan's so good. Let's go to Harry. Harry, 634 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: ask Mark anything, Mark, have you. 635 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 5: Ever heard of a man named Tom Causey from the 636 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 5: record business? 637 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: No, he has a book out right now. 638 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 6: He might be interested in. 639 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 8: He was a promoter. 640 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 6: He's from mun Hall and he actually. 641 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: Worked with David Burley. 642 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 8: He promoted a freak ly chic. 643 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 3: Loved that song. 644 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't interest me. Let's go to Ken 645 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: and Beaver Connie Ken. Oh, mister Maden, Uh. 646 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 5: Question about Olympic cock do you think the owners and 647 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: players unions should consider. 648 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 6: A staying out of the Olympics down The reason. 649 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: They go is the players union. The players want to go. 650 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: Even though it's like two percent or three percent to 651 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: go some small fraction, that's a big bargaining chip with 652 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: the CBA. 653 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: So they're going to keep going. 654 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's probably about the money, I guess. 655 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: No, No, it's about keeping the players happy and and 656 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: and you know, getting some sessions in the CBA. Because 657 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: you're doing that, good players get hurt over there. It 658 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: makes the Stanley Cup playoffs seem, you know, relatively unimportant 659 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: by comparison. You're just the TV ratings don't go up 660 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: for the NHL after I've been on my shopbox about 661 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: this a long time, and I'm just. 662 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: Going play and I'll watch great. 663 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Okay, We got a little more pirate talk just to 664 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: mind the corner, and then guitarist and comedian Reb Beach. 665 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: That's next on one oh five to nine. 666 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: My Guess right Now is part of a big comedy 667 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: show a week from tonight Thursday, February twelfth at Pittsburgh 668 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: Brewing Company. Creighton from White Snake and once again Winger, 669 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: he is Pittsburgh's finest rock instrumentalist ever, from Fox Chapel 670 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: and Oakmont. He's reb Beach reb that winder retirement short 671 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: didn't last long, like a couple of months. 672 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: What the heck happened? 673 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 3: Somebody made an offer that kid couldn't refuse. So, I mean, 674 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't Winger. 675 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 4: You know. 676 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: Kip never said I'm hanging it up for good. 677 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: This is it. 678 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm never playing another show again. We never said that 679 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 3: at all. He said, you know, if if the right 680 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: offer comes around, or if there's a festival, you know, 681 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 3: we'll play maybe once in a while, but we're not 682 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: gonna do a full on tour, you know. And he 683 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: doesn't his voice singing that stuff for him, even though 684 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: to us it sounds perfect. 685 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's way too picky about. 686 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: That, exactly exactly. He's one of the only guys that 687 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: still sounds just like the record, but it's really hard 688 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: work for him to warm up his voice for days 689 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 3: to be able to do like one show. So we 690 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: have four shows this year in very odd places Brazil, Mexico, 691 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: and Illinois. 692 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,479 Speaker 1: Well obviously three of a kind there when it comes 693 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: to Locale, So you guys will be right at home 694 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: moving from gig to gig. And hey, I'm obviously happy 695 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: that that. When we're gonna come back, I'm going to 696 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: get to one of the Illinois shows and I gotta say, 697 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, absolutely wouldn't miss it. I gotta say, a 698 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of bands should maybe quit, and I don't want 699 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: him to, but you know what I mean, But Winger 700 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: still looks and sounds like Winger. There's very few bands 701 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: from that era still pull that off. 702 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: And we're all original members, which is also rare. 703 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding, I mean, well, we'll get to that 704 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: in a minute, because uh, okay, we're gonna talk about 705 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: a White Snake without David. I don't think it's a possibility, 706 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: but we'll we'll debate the pros and cons. But do 707 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: you want to join another band? And have you tried? 708 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 3: Well, if somebody called, like, you know, if the guitar 709 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: player and def Leppard sprained his hand, I'd be there 710 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: in a second, you know, Like I'm dying to get 711 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 3: on the road. That's where I belong is on the road. 712 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: I just I love it. I love hotels and being 713 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: in a bus and that whole thing. Sure, I'd love 714 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 3: to go out on a tour, and if someone calls 715 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 3: to do that, I will, But right now I'm just 716 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: kind of doing my own thing. 717 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: See, I think you're too good. I think a lot 718 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: of bands would be intimidated by your chops. 719 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 720 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's not a lot of gets. I 721 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: got a big eighties stamp on my head mark. That's 722 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: what it is. You know, Like if you're not an 723 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: eighties band, then uh, it's like I might not be 724 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: the right choice. But you know I could do like 725 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: Rod Stewart or something like that. 726 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 4: I would do that. I'd love that. 727 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 3: I actually auditioned for him many years ago. 728 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: Now you've been doing comedy. We got the show? 729 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: Uh next Thursday, February twelfth at Pittsburgh Brewing Company in Creighton, 730 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: and I've seen you do it a couple of times. 731 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: It's good. I mean, just your rock and roll stories alone. 732 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: That's a good base to start from, isn't it. 733 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: Sure people really like the uh. I tell funny stories 734 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: about my family, which they like. And then also, for 735 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: some reason, the David Cavedale voice always gets them going. 736 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: It always been gets me going. 737 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, So I tell a story about David 738 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 3: that always goes over. 739 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 5: You know. 740 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: But I'm not the pro. I'm just kind of like 741 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: the warm up guy. 742 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: You know. 743 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 3: Courtney Cronin DoD and Don Jamison are the real pros. 744 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: And it's a it's a great thing. I just I 745 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 3: really enjoy doing it. I have to carry a guitar 746 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 3: with me or an amp or tables or any of 747 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: that stuff. I just get up there with my beer 748 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: and tell funny stories that I've been doing my whole life. 749 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: And my whole life, everyone has been telling me, you 750 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: gotta you need to be a stand up comedian, you 751 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 3: need to comedy or something because apparently I'm funny. 752 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Well, it is a great show. And I've seen Don 753 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: many times in court as well. Both very funny. And 754 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: Don's a metal guy too, that metal show. That's kind 755 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: of a nice connection, isn't it. 756 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. He does some stick about kiss and you know 757 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 3: there is some a lot of music stuff in his act, 758 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: and you know there'll definitely be some musicians there, I 759 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 3: would think. But also it's Valentine's Day weekend, so it's 760 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 3: the perfect thing to take your significant other and go 761 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 3: in the beautiful bar there at the pitch. 762 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the biggest. 763 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: It's like I go there for Steeler and Penguin watch parties, 764 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: rep the TV. 765 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: Everything. It's unbelievable. 766 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's perfect to go see comedy Valentine's for 767 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: something different. Now, I'm really looking forward to it. 768 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: What makes you more nervous playing guitar on stage or 769 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: doing jokes on stage? 770 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 3: Doing jokes does not make me nervous. I've did clinics 771 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: my whole life. So I stand up and get up 772 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: there and just get on the mic and tell funny 773 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: stories and I always get a laugh. I know when 774 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to get the laugh, and it seems to 775 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: work every time, so I'm not you know, I'm a 776 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 3: little nervous, But once you get up there, and start 777 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 3: talking and you get one good laugh, You're like, okay, 778 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: they're good. Now I have had one bad audience that 779 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 3: was bad for all three of us. 780 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 4: No, that was just a rough night. 781 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 3: Like they were not in the mood. No, there was 782 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 3: no heckling, which you know, I always wonder how I would. 783 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 4: Deal with that. 784 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: They were just dead, right, Yeah. 785 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 3: They were just dead. They just were not in the mood. 786 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 3: But every other one had been laughing hysterically. So uh 787 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: so I'm not that worried. 788 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 8: You know. 789 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: I get nervous sometimes when I'm going to play a 790 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: big rock show, like you know, the one in Rio, 791 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: or you know one of those one hundred thousand people 792 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: type shows. 793 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 4: That's unnerving. 794 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: But you know, once you get up there and stuff 795 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: works and everything, you're good. 796 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Now we've mentioned the Wingers back, which is great news 797 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: for a few shows anyway. White Snake, though, is officially done. 798 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about that previously on the program. But have 799 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: you heard it all from David Coverdill I. 800 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: Have he called me to get my equipment back, so 801 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: it's definitely done. 802 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 4: It's definitely over. 803 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: Did he say those words, I would be I would 804 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: be very I would be very uh I would be 805 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: very shocked to hear in the like, well, we're all 806 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: done that. 807 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 2: It's just no more white snake. It was a good run, 808 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: wasn't it. 809 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 3: He didn't say I mean he said that. He didn't. 810 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: He didn't say use. 811 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: Those words, you know. 812 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 3: But uh, when he called me to you know, see 813 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: what equipment I wanted him to send me, that's when 814 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 3: I kind him, Yeah, definitely, that's it, you know. And 815 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 3: he's he's got a place in Malibu on the beach, 816 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 3: for God's sake, you know. 817 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 2: And he's still got the he's still got the Tahoe place, right. 818 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: Uh, not Tahoe, there's one in now. 819 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: Oh that's what man. 820 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he lives in Reno, but he bought 821 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 3: a place for his wife in Malibu and it's just 822 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: gorgeous right on the beach. And he's happy as a 823 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: clam man for his retirement. He's seventy four, I guess. 824 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy four. And good for David too. He certainly 825 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: put in the time. 826 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: But I'll pay a reb I knew he was serious 827 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: when he disappeared off social media. He kind of, you know, 828 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: as David does, resigned with the fish from social media. 829 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: But he seemed to love social media. That to me 830 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: was the final sign. 831 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah me too. I was surprised that he did that. 832 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 3: And when I told Kip Winger he did that, kid 833 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, that's. 834 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 5: A great idea. 835 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 6: I think I want to do that too. 836 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 5: You know. 837 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean it's like you don't have anything to promote anymore, 838 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 3: So you know, why do it the way he was 839 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: doing it anyway? I mean that he was on all 840 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 3: the time, posting constantly. 841 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: You know, could you do White Snake without David? 842 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: I know that was mooted by a couple other guys 843 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: before if he gave his blessing. 844 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Skinner and Foreigner do it, Why not White Snake. 845 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 3: It's a little different because you know, Foreigner was kind 846 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: of a faceless band. You know, they didn't have the 847 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Yeahluke Graham, but no one really knew Luke Graham. 848 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 3: Like Luke Graham wasn't. 849 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 4: Like David Coverdelle. 850 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: I mean the old band is David covered out. It's 851 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: like even doing Winger without Kip Winger. 852 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 2: No, you couldn't, I agree, make any sense? 853 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 4: Right? 854 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 3: So you know, David said that he approached some promoters 855 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 3: about doing White Snake without him. 856 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: What would Dino? 857 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 4: That's who I would choose. 858 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Johnson, Yeah, he's the best I've heard. 859 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, really good. 860 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 5: Really. 861 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: I saw him at the NAM show last week. I 862 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 3: mean I also hung out with Doug Aldrich, which was great, 863 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 3: the old guitar player from White Snake. I've seen him 864 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: in years. But you know, I've been approached by a 865 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 3: couple organizations to put together a White Snake band, and 866 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 3: I would only do it with David's blessing, and you'd 867 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 3: have to have the right singer. But as far as 868 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 3: I can tell, you know, I've been asking fans as well, 869 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: and they're all going, like, you know, I guess i'd 870 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 3: go see it if it was alumni from you know, 871 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: the original band, so you had just the best players 872 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 3: that are actually you know, members of White Snake or 873 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 3: previous members that might have some appeal. So so I 874 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 3: eventually I'll probably end up in a White Snake tribute band, 875 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: but at. 876 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: Least again, right, Yeah, sure, I mean. 877 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 3: If it's you know, it could be good money, it 878 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: might be cool and uh, you know, and as long 879 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 3: as David's cool that I would never want to upset 880 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 3: him or do something that he wasn't into. You know, 881 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: Kip had a great idea. He said, but do a 882 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: white snake cover band with an orchestra. 883 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: Mmmm. 884 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 4: I think that was kind of cool. 885 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: Just like tso, you know, Trans Siberian Orchestra with like 886 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 3: a little have kid. 887 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: Put it together. 888 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: He's the he could do it, no problem, exactly have 889 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: exactly now win. 890 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 2: You're go orchestra. That might be even cooler. 891 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: Now it's worth noting you still got your local band, 892 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: the Red Beach Project, which plays the Oaks Theater, Jurgles 893 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: places like that, and you got comedy. I'm gonna pitch 894 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: you on this again. We've done it off the air. 895 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: I know Big Joe, our buddy, agrees with me. You 896 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: should do one man acoustic like Scott Blazey the Clarks. 897 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: It'd be awesome. 898 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: I would do that. 899 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 3: I have a nice voice. People like my voice. 900 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 901 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a bad idea. It would be nice. 902 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, Kip made a lot of 903 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: money doing that. 904 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 2: I know. 905 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 3: I know they're paying in like four or five grand 906 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 3: for the show for to play for forty five minutes. Yeah, 907 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: at Borders Bookstore. So I mean, yeah, that's that's a possibility. 908 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 3: But I have a band together now that's an instrumental 909 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 3: band going in the kind of Joe satriani uh direction. 910 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 3: And we're doing the Monsters of Rock Cruise. We're doing 911 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 3: the prog rock crews coming up in a month. 912 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: I heard about the prog rock. Is that the prog 913 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: rock thing? I was gonna ask you about that. I 914 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: didn't know you were a prog rock guy. That's a 915 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: different direction for you. 916 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's instrumental music. It's it's not necessarily progressive. It's 917 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: pretty straight ahead, but it's very enjoyable and it's gonna 918 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have Throck on drums, Greg Smith on bass, 919 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: and I found this new keyboard player and I'm hoping 920 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: he's good. I'm crossing my fingers. 921 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 2: Are you guys doing watch us a rock? 922 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 6: Yes? 923 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: See, if I had known, if I'd have known, not 924 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: a gone like I'm not going because between you. 925 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: And me, not a great lineup. 926 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 3: A really night ranger. 927 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, but they only play, they only play the 928 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: one show and they do the quick getaway. 929 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah they do. 930 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 4: They fly in for the day. 931 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: Lucky guys may as well get an aircraft carrier. Rep 932 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: is always great. Stuff. 933 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: Uh, and we will see you next Thursday. Definitely a 934 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Brewing. 935 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 2: Are you going? Absolutely? 936 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 3: Of course, Mark, you're the best. I can't wait to see. 937 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: You any place they don't any place they don't make 938 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: me pay. There's a pretty good bet i'll show up. 939 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 3: That sounds good, all. 940 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: Right, Red good stuff. I'll see you there. That is 941 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: Red Beach. 942 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: Don't forget next Thursday, the twelfth at Pittsburgh Brewing Company 943 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: in Creighton. It's an all star cast as far as 944 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. Courtney Cronin, Don Jamison from That Metal Show, 945 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: and of course the aforementioned you just heard him, Red Beach.