1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: radio Help It. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Is Nightside with Dan Ray and Bradley and for Dan 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Tonight with Greig Fitzgerald talking about automotive things, particularly now 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: rules in the New England states that are going to 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: change on Jen one laws, rules. 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: Correct off the road. We've covered two. Can we recap 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: sure the two? The two were Massachusetts which changes to 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: rental insurance, So rental car insurance is now you are 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: as the renter are the primary insurance carrier, not the 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: rental car company in New Hampshire is now not having 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: an inspection anymore, and they're raising their fees for almost 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: everything else. 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 2: Speaking of insurance, do you get your insurance directly through 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: a company or do you have it's like an independent 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: insurance Brooke. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: We have an agent and he's great and he is 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: in Norfolk and it's just like him and his wife. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: They've run this a little insurance agency. They're very helpful 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: to us. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: I love having I also have an agent, Yeah, and 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, they're great. A question do I 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: need this? Do I need that? If there's anything wrong, 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: you call them and yeah, I would have to go 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: on whatever. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: When when the big thing for us was having two 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: kids that now are coming into our policy and asking 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: them all the questions about what do we need to do? 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: And you know, my daughter she got an a fender bender, Like, 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: how's this going to impact us? 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 2: They were super helpful. They helped us. 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: Get a surcharge waved, which I don't think you know, 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: a progressive or somebody would Yeah. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't want to diss any companies, but we do. 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't mind talking about the advantages of an independent insurance. Yeah. Sure, 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: So your daughter got an a fender bender. What were 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: the circumstances? I just can't help. 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: But so she she was you know, she was a 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: new driver. She had only been driving for three or 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: four months. 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Uh, pulled out a Lows right around this time of year. 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: It was wet, kind of snowy, and she pulled out, 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 3: and she spun the car around and bumped into somebody. 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: No no damage, no. 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: Significant damage to her car and and minor damage to 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: the other car. 47 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: And you know it was a it was our first offense, 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: I guess. And uh, the our agent, uh you know, 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: advised us how to get the the surcharge waved. 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: And and that's a huge question. How do you do that? 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: I can't even remember, to be honest with you, But 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: we wrote a letter, We explained the situation, and they 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: waved it. Now, if you went back six times and said, 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, this is my sixth accident, can I wave 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: the they would probably didn't make six copies of that 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: letter again. 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, get it again? Yeah right, I didn't know you 59 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: could do that. 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was They were really helpful. So yes, 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a big fan of agents. People have to 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: take driver training in Massachusetts, yes, correct, And that's actually 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: that's that's one of the things that's coming up here 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: in Connecticut is that the was it Connecticut? Yes, it 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: was Connecticut Learners. Permit holders now have to take an 66 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: eight hour course before getting their driver's license in Connecticut. 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: That is the truth. 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 3: In Massachusetts as well. 69 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: Uh. 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: And in Massachusetts I had to do what when both 71 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: of my kids were getting their licenses, I had to 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: drive with them for forty hours? Yeah, so you know, 73 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: only eight now, Uh, this is an eight hour course 74 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: and I don't know if there is the driver yeah 75 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: right right. 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: I can't remember how long my driver ed course was. 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: My driver's ed course felt like it was twenty five minutes, 78 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: and it was I remember driving my driving instructor to 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: buy cigarettes all the time. That was the length the 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: extent of our I had to drive a long way. 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: But I have a question. Do they still show those 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: scared straight kind of movies without death on the highway accident? 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Do they still show them? I don't think so. 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: No. 85 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: My son didn't say that he was shown that. I 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: was shown it. For sure. 87 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: Our society, which got a grade of eighty two percent 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: just a little while ago, wouldn't tolerate that seeing those 89 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: hurtful things on. Now that I think. 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: About it, I think I was shown the school bus 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: safety one where the school bus rolls over and all 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: the kids are ejected from the school bus. 93 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: And they need to figure out why would they show 94 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: you that because you're not driving a school. 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 3: But no, but it was like, here's what happens if 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: something happens on the bus. Here's how you get out 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 3: of the bus, so you know how to use the 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: emergency door in the back and the windows and stuff. 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: We had to see the whole horrific series of images. 100 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: And you talked about this could be a topic someday. 101 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: Where did your driving instructor take you and make you drive? 102 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: Did he make you go return something mine? I took 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: my driver training and it's where I grew up, small 104 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: town New Hampshire, just call it Rochester. And he made 105 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: me drive to Rockingham Park. That's a hike to that's 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: who sail once you do? 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: Uh? 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: Because he wanted to bet on the interesting and I 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: had to wait in the park and waited in the 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: parking lot. 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: That's like being driven to the Golden Bananas. I was 112 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: kind of like his chauffeur, like you were. But that's 113 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: that's a long way. Yeah it is, it is, but 114 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: you know, you got a place a bets and he 115 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: said stay in the car. 116 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm going. It's like your driving instructor was Uncle Buck 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: kind of and back then, I don't even know if 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: anyone would have cared. So what now? It would right 119 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 2: now would be a federal thing, right right? Or state thing? Yeah, 120 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: looks like we have Jane and Shrewsbury. Hi Jane, Hi. 121 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: Bradley, Hi Craig, Hi Jane. 122 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: How are you good? 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: Merry Christmas? 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: Same to you. 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: I have a couple of questions, and you've been touching 126 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 5: on so many interesting topics that I could comment on too, 127 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 5: But first a car question, a specific car question, and 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: then it's a couple of general questions if you don't 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 5: mind absolutely, what do you think of a Toyota Salara 130 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: convertible as a future collectible? They ended I think in 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven or eight or something like that. 132 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: Correct, My guess is it will never be collectible. That 133 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's not a fun car to own. 134 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: So they were. 135 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: The Solara, if people don't know, was basically a two 136 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 3: door camera and they you could either buy it in 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: a two door coup or a convertible version, and they 138 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: were very nice cars. They weren't performance oriented. They were 139 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: just almost like a Chrysler Sea Bring was the same idea, 140 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: and they were really nice cars. They were one of 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: the first cars I remember that had a really tight 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: and quiet convertible top. They were triple lined and you 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: could drive that all winter without issue. A collectible, I 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: would say probably not. I mean, there may be some 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: interest in those at some point in the future. But 146 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: trying to figure out when I was at Hemmings, I 147 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: used to get asked that a lot like one of 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: the cars that I can buy today, that that are 149 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: gonna be worth something in the future, and it seemed 150 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: like every year that the number of those got fewer 151 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 3: and fewer. And the one that sticks out to me right. 152 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: Now is the what was that car? It was the 153 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: Hyundai Uh what was it? 154 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember, And it wasn't the Elantra. It was 155 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: a two door sport coop. It was a really cool 156 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: little car. They only produced it for a few years, 157 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: very performance oriented that I could see have and some 158 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: potential in the future. But yeah, I would have to 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: say with the with the Salar, probably not. 160 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: Probably not. 161 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: Okay. And as far as if you're trying to sell 162 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: a car yourself or buy a car like privately secondhand, 163 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: which websites are the best ones to look at for 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 5: pricing ideas like the old standbys, Kelly Bluebook, those kind 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 5: of things. But as far as selling like Craigslist, Facebook 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 5: Marketplace or listing on you know one of the secondhand. 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, question, yeah, excellently. Question. 168 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: I use Facebook Marketplace all the time. I buy and 169 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: sell on there, and everybody's complaint is, well, you know, 170 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: I put a put an ad up there and I get, 171 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: you know, fifteen hundred people asking me is this still available? 172 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: You just have to weed through those and find the 173 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: people who are actually serious about buying the car. I mean, 174 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: it's a free service. That's kind of the what I 175 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: pay for being able to use that, and it works 176 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: pretty well, and I've sold a bunch of there. 177 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: It works. 178 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: It works well. As far as pricing information, I tend 179 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: to look at car Gurus, which is a really good site. 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: They're in they're local, they're based in Boston here, they're 181 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: a Boston based company. I know a bunch of people 182 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: who work over there, and I use that for pricing 183 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: information because they'll they they you know, a dealer or 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: a private party can list a car there and you 185 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 3: look at it and whatever their price is, they'll have 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: an indicator next to it that says, this is a 187 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: good deal, this is overpriced, this is kind of right 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: in the ballpark. That's a it's a pretty handy thing 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: I always look at. I tend to look at like, 190 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: whatever the asking prices is, I don't know, that's a 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: number that somebody pulled out of their hat. It's transaction 192 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: price that I'm mostly in trusted in, and that I know. 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: Here's what I use eBay for is I'll go back 194 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: and look at what what like if I'm looking for 195 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: a two thousand and three Camaro, I'm gonna look at 196 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: the two thousand and three. You know, you need to 197 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: go through the advanced search part of it, but you 198 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: can find vehicles that sold and find out what they 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: sold for. That to me is a transaction price on 200 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: classic vehicles. I look at Haggarty. I I have Haggarty 201 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: Insurance through my vintage cars. I look at them for 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: transaction price. They know what the transaction prices of everything 203 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: because they ask so they they're the number one vintage 204 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: car insuran in the country. They know what everybody paid 205 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: for everything, They know what they insure them for, and 206 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: their values are generally on the money. 207 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: Does that help yeah? Does that help change? 208 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 209 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: Definitely. It's I've looked at cargos before in cars dot com. Also, 210 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 5: before you go to break Bradley, can I just tell 211 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: you a couple of the thoughts that you triggered that 212 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 5: you've been bringing up. You guys can talk about it 213 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: after you. But I think that we should have transponders 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: in our license plates. They could catch violations that way, 215 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 5: and you know, there is technology to make things a 216 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 5: lot safer. I think we shouldn't be able to weave 217 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 5: in and out because those are the people that seem 218 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 5: to cause a lot of accidents. And as far as hitchhiking, 219 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 5: I actually knew someone who picked up a bank robber 220 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: and got kidnapped, so that wasn't a good story. And 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 5: I think we should retest all drivers in the written 222 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: test more often, like when you're my age. I took 223 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 5: the written test a long long time ago and I 224 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: don't remember all the rules, so I'm not that old 225 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 5: where they say, oh, we can't retest older drivers because 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 5: they're the voters. But I think we should just retest 227 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 5: everybody every twenty. 228 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: Years and like almost like jury to get to get renewed. 229 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: Maybe every time that happens, yeah, or or you know, 230 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: they pick your name out of a hat and you're 231 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: going to get tested this year. 232 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: But I maintain it's kind of theater. No, people don't care. No, 233 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: it's the truth. 234 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: And I mean if if people were monitored more and 235 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: knew that they were going to get written up, they'd 236 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: be better drivers. 237 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: They absolutely would. Now you talked about transponders Jane in 238 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: the registration plates. Are you talking about automated enforcement? 239 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 5: Well, that could it could be used for enforcement. It 240 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 5: could also be that everyone has it for going through tolls, 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: So there's not this idea that you now can go 242 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 5: through a toll and they have to send you a bill, 243 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: which seems really silly. 244 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: You don't have the easy past. 245 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: Have cameras on stop lights and that kind of thing. 246 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's you know, that's obviously. You know, a 247 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: lot of states are doing that. I forget there are 248 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: a lot of states doing automated enforcement. There's a lot 249 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: because I'd love to. 250 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Know how that works out. I'm I'm a law a bier, right, 251 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: and so I'm raised when I see people just blowing 252 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: through lights. So they they what they did find was, 253 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: you know, you they can definitely dial up the sensitivity 254 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: on a stop light camera, and you know, it can 255 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: give you a little bit of grace time going through 256 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: a yellow light, or it can really come after people 257 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: that you know, like okay, the second that that turned red, 258 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: you were going through it. So you know, it depends 259 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: on the sensitivity of the technology and how how strict 260 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: they want to be. We're going to talk a little 261 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: bit more about this. I'm going to say goodbye to 262 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: you now, Jane, Thank you, and since we're talking about 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: laws and stuff, or new laws, automotive laws from the 264 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: next year, I think it might be a good time 265 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: to start asking you would you be in favor of 266 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: automated enforcement. I have a whole plan. It will save 267 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: your town money. Now, maybe you don't really care about 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: public safety. A lot of people don't, but maybe you 269 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: care about your tech bill. Maybe you don't want cameras 270 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: deciding that you have broken the law. I'm curious about it. Well, 271 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: it's it's a good question because you know, you know what. 272 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: It's twenty pasted. Let's talk about it, right and anybody else, 273 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: I'd love to know what you think about automated enforcement. 274 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: The number six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty 275 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: on WBZ. 276 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 277 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: news radio. 278 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: It's going to be with you my friends on night 279 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: Side with Dan Ray, Bradley, Jay and for Dan Tonight, 280 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: Craig Fitzgerald's our guests, and he isn't he knows all 281 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: about cars and car rules and traffic, and he's the 282 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: automotive man and he's with us sharing new rules for 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: the new year when it comes to the new England States. 284 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: But we did run into a question about automated enforcement. 285 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody in New England going that way, right, 286 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: But I'm just curious, folks, how many of you would 287 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: like to see automated traffic enforcement? And that's in whatever 288 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: state you're in. There are pros and cons. I don't know. 289 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we should debate, Craig. I want to give you 290 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: my hybrid plan that I think would be great. Okay, 291 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't want a machine deciding, you know, 292 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: whether or not they broke the law. They feel that 293 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: the machine would be unforgiving. Right, I just went I 294 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: just was a little late on that red line. I 295 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: just was in the parking whatever. My theory is this 296 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: cameras everywhere every a recorded a problem crime, traffic crime, 297 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: it's not a crime in fraction, right, would get sent 298 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: to a lot of traffic enforcement headquarters where a human being, trained, 299 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: human being trained to be even and fair would look 300 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: at them all. So you'd get a human factor and 301 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: would say, oh, that was just you know that guy 302 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: tried to stop, he slid through it was it was icy, right, 303 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: or you know that that's you know somebody could that 304 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: could really only take the serious offenders, the obvious scofflaws 305 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: and give them tickets. So and also you would you 306 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: would only need one officer to do this per I 307 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: don't know how many hundred thousand residents. 308 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: Well, I guess, I guess. The question is do you 309 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: want the police department to be in charge of traffic enforcement? 310 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: So there's a rule, there's a there's there's a pro 311 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: and a con there. It's expensive is that there's a 312 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: guy out there who sees you do something, he's going 313 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: to pick you up right then and there, he's gonna 314 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: write you a summons and then you're gonna go on 315 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: your way. The con is it's exceedingly dangerous for that 316 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: police officer, right, he doesn't know he's who he's walking 317 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: up to. He's there all by himself, he doesn't have 318 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: a partner in the car with him anymore, and they 319 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: get hit constantly. Yeah, so you know, we've tried to 320 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: alleviate that by you know, you've got to move over 321 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: and all of that kind of stuff, but it still happens. 322 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: So it's dangerous, yeah, and it is expensive. Yeah, it's 323 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: time consuming. And do you want the police doing this? 324 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: No, you don't. You don't need to have a police 325 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: officer do it, because the camera could do it. 326 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 3: But then the flip side of this is and the 327 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: horse has left the barn. On the surveillance state, but 328 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: do you want that much surveillance you do? 329 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: It's I already have you already have that level of availance? 330 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: You do? There was a recent I think one of 331 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: the more recent shootings they detailed how many cameras called 332 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: the Brown University thing. That's crazy, a series of overlapping cameras. 333 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: And in addition, there are more cameras than that. And 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: down in the m BT A look at the Wellington 335 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: stop there, I wonder, I wonder, is there really anybody 336 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: looking at paying somebody to look at that empty platform? 337 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: Or that happens they go and check the tape vehicle 338 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 3: inspections here in the state. There is your hybrid system 339 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: is how it works, right, So when you go and 340 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: get your your your vehicle inspected here, there is a 341 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: human that is watching that inspection happen. So if the 342 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: guy who runs the inspection station is just waving, is 343 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: just throwing stickers on everything that comes through, he's gonna 344 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: get caught because there's an actual human that's watching those things. 345 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: They're not watching every one, but people get picked up 346 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: for it pretty regularly. They'll lose their inspection license because 347 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 3: use they give out too many stickers to people who 348 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 3: shouldn't get a sticker. So that part of it, that 349 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 3: hybrid system already exists and it's can you do it 350 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: at scale on every highway and road in Massachusetts? 351 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: So let me continue with my argument. Got it safer 352 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: for police officers, cheaper, better use of trained police officer time? Yes? 353 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: And it makes money, right, it doesn't cost much to 354 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: stick up a camera. It's it's sayers money there is. 355 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: You'll be able to hire more police officers to do 356 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: to do police officer anything. 357 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: There is something to uniform uh enforcement. So how many 358 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: times do you see somebody do somebody something that is 359 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: the dumbest thing you've ever seen behind the wheel and 360 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: they just drive on and know they never pay a 361 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: penalty for that, they never get caught doing it, and 362 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: there's never a cop around when you need, right, So 363 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: this is the cop around when you need one who 364 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 3: is going to pick up those kind of infractions. 365 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: I do like that part of it. It makes money 366 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 2: for the town people. 367 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, here's the well, the people who are trying to 368 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: who are likely to cause an accident that might hurt 369 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 3: you or your family. 370 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 2: Here's a win win. 371 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: The not win is that the towns do not have 372 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: the technology spread through, Like they'll have cameras all over 373 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: the highways, but when you're down to you know, Elm 374 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: Street in you know bill Ricca, like do they have 375 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 3: Like they're not going to put cameras on every street. 376 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: The town is not going to do that. 377 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: Well, you can certainly get to the busiest, most dangerous intersection. 378 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: You can do that. I can do that with the 379 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: internet and people don't really know. You could stick a 380 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: few on little streets like wall on that street. So 381 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: if you wouldn't really know, you wouldn't know. You'd have 382 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: to assume that every little street had one, right, Okay. 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: So the ground thing, the brown thing was interesting because 384 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: a lot of those cameras were ring cameras. They were 385 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: they were private cameras, so like you can't rely on 386 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: those for this kind of thing. You would have to 387 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: be pretty widespread with your coverage. That's a that's a 388 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: big leap. 389 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, after a month, you could buy plenty 390 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: more cameras. And there are so many cameras everywhere, and 391 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: it's so cheap. They're so small, and the recording is 392 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: so cheap. It's a surveillance state already. Why not make 393 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: it put it to good use. I still haven't heard 394 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: from anybody, either in the audience or from you a 395 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: real downside. 396 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: No, I don't think there's a huge downside, But nobody 397 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: wants it. 398 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 2: Why is that? I think people don't. Let I think 399 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 2: I know why nobody wants to say because people they 400 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: want to be outlaws. 401 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: We're a nation of outlaws, right, and that's it, right, 402 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: And you know, I want to be able to break 403 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 6: the lawn if I want. I want to be able 404 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 6: to blow that light if I want. That's what it is. 405 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: Having experienced driving in Germany, and this was a long 406 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: time ago, this is two thousand and four or five, 407 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: they had all of this. They had traffic cameras everywhere, 408 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: like you could not get away with anything in Germany. 409 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: You know, the highways are much faster than we are here, 410 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: but they are very stringent about the rules on those highways, 411 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: so you know they've figured it out. However, Germany is 412 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: a very rule following society, and we're not. You would 413 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: have to re educate this entire country, I think to 414 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: get them to under stand why they'd want to do this. 415 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: You might think that talking about this being a law 416 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: breaking country would be off the topic of them cars, 417 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: but it's completely on topic. 418 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: It's where most people break the most loss. It's where 419 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 3: the most dangerous thing you do is drive on right. 420 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Right. 421 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: And you know, you know from just being out there, 422 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: nobody is doing sixty five miles an hour anymore. 423 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: Nobody nobody cares you you are. 424 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: They're closer to eighty now, so and and you know, 425 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: cars have gotten safer, cars have gotten better. 426 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: They're better at eighty miles an hour than they ever 427 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: were before. That's not real. 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: So so do you just bump the speed limit up 429 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: to seventy five and then monitor everybody but knowing if 430 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: you go over seventy five you are going to get it? 431 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you had automated pump it up. Yeah, 432 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: you send it to the speed you really want people 433 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: to get right? Right? Okay, I think we need a break, 434 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: right brother? All right, it's WBZ. 435 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 436 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: We continue on night Side with Dan Ray and Bradley 437 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: and for Dan tonight, I want to remind you folks 438 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: who might be a little shy to call that if 439 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: once you get over that initial call, you'll have a 440 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: whole new world, especially if you're a person that's alone, 441 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: you're up late at night, you'd like a community, right well, 442 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: as soon as you get over that initial fear and 443 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: call one time, see how much fun it is. Then 444 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: you have a voice in thirty eight states on WBZ, 445 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: and you'll have a community of and you know a 446 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: lot of the people that call in, you know them, 447 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: but they don't know you. So it's really worth it. 448 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: And I only bring this up because when I speak 449 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: to people in person, so many say I listen, but 450 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: I don't dare to call, And I think, and so 451 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to massage of folks that would really like 452 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: to call into just going for it one time. What's 453 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: the worst that can happen? We're friendly people, Yes, I hesitated, 454 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: I try to be all right. We're talking about automotive 455 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: laws that are going to be kicking in in New 456 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: England on January one. I do have Michael and Attleborough him. Michael, 457 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: you're on w b Z. 458 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 4: Thanks for Hey, how's your calling? Hope you had hope 459 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: you had a great holiday. It's been a couple of 460 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 4: things that have been irking me for the last, oh god, 461 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 4: twenty years. Really, remember, if you're from Massachusetts, remember the 462 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 4: right hand lane was the slow lane on a highway. Yes, sir, okay, okay, 463 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: they dropped that. But in addition, well I don't know 464 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: if they officially dropped it, But in addition to that, 465 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 4: they did this terrible, terrible thing where they the breakdown 466 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: lane to be opened during the you know, the busy times. Correct, 467 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 4: there are a number of people from out of state 468 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: that got killed because they pulled onto what they thought 469 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 4: was a breakdown lane because they had a flat of something. 470 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: So where is the the twain meet, as they say. 471 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: Even if even from Massachusetts, somehow as you can, and 472 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: somehow as you can if you get the hours wrong, 473 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: what if you just know? So it's crazy. I mean, 474 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: we should never have done that, Like the idea it was. 475 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't know how the federal government, 476 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: the Department of Transportation will approved it. And I don't 477 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: know if it's got something to do with that section 478 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: of highway is both a state highway and a federal highway. 479 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. How that works. 480 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: But what about the people have died. I mean you 481 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 4: never heard. No, you're about it. 482 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, I mean it is. We should 483 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: never have allowed that to happen. So the enforcement of 484 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: the slow lane, the travel lane, and the passing lane 485 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: has not changed federally. Those you know, the the right 486 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: most lane is the is really only supposed to be 487 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 3: used if you're exiting the highway. Right, you're coming up 488 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: to an exit, Okay, I'm going to pull into that lane. 489 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: The middle lane is the travel lane, which is where 490 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 3: you're supposed to be, and the furthest leftmost lane is 491 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: passing passing only. That is that part of driving in 492 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: this country is where every other country beats us because 493 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: they know that that's the passing lane. Where they live here, 494 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: it's just another travel lane. People will, you know, set 495 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: their cruise control it's seventy two miles an hour and 496 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: just stay there, regardless of what the speed of the 497 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: traffic around them is. 498 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: And on the right hand lane, left, the left. 499 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: One, the left length the left right, and people will. 500 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: Stay in there whether they're passing anybody or not, and 501 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: that that causes problems for everybody Like you, you should 502 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: be in the You know, it's fine to pass somebody 503 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: and get back in, but you shouldn't be in that 504 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: lane unless you're passing. 505 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: You know what. No one knows the rules and the 506 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: one and even if they did, they wouldn't care about it. 507 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: It's it's just a message, right, And that gets to 508 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: the call and we spoke to before you know her. 509 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: You mentioned and Jane from Shrewsbury mentioned that we should 510 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 3: be tested on a regular basis and regardless of what 511 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: your age is like you know what my thing was 512 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: like jury duty? You know, well, well it's my turn. 513 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna need to be tested this time around 514 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 3: on my general knowledge of how the highway works. It's 515 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: it's something we don't do. You get license when you're 516 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: sixteen and nobody ever asked you about it. Again, meanwhile, 517 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: things have changed a lot, right. 518 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I can tell you, excuse me, I 519 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: can tell you I was going up twenty four about 520 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: fifteen years ago, and this is when I had a 521 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: bad habit of always being laid everywhere. Now I just 522 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: accept that I'm going to be late. 523 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: So the later late late. Now you're very late. 524 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 4: Behind the van. I was behind a van in the 525 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 4: right hand lane, and I was kind of pull in 526 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: to the breakdown and fly And I am glad I didn't. 527 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: Wasn't there a vehicle stopped going ten miles an hour 528 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: whatever they were doing when you know, when we finally 529 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: kept going and I looked, I looked over. If I 530 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: had pulled over, I would have been dead. They would 531 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: have been dead. But I just don't understand. I'm glad 532 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: that someone that agrees with me. I don't understand why 533 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: the safe police so whatever decided that wasn't drawn to 534 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: task on that. 535 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't know, to be honestly, Thank you 536 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: very much, Michael, appreciate that call. 537 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one. 538 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: And it's it's always confused me why that section of 539 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: one slippery slope. 540 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: The next thing, after breakdown lanes will be during the hours, 541 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: during rush hours, you can drive on the sidewalk right 542 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: right well, and that you you might laugh a little bit, 543 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: but they might make a rule that after you know, 544 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: between certain hours delivery motorcycles will be able to go 545 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: on the sidewalk, right folks. I never talk about bikes 546 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: and bike lanes, but I feel like I'm ready to 547 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: talk about that at any time, because so many towns 548 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: have spent so much money on bike lanes, reducing travel lands. 549 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: And I get it. A town that has fewer cars, 550 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. I want to be like Amsterdam. 551 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: That's tremendous. How for what's happened? Is this all that money, 552 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: all your text money, they got spent on your bike lanes. 553 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: Those bike lanes are now delivery vehicle lanes. They are 554 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: lanes used. They've been usurped by motor scooters delivering stuff 555 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: growubhub and all that, and it's really dangerous for bicycle 556 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: artis and I don't, well, so this thing that people 557 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: are fine with that because well, it's good for business. 558 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: This is again the difference between US and other countries 559 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: in that that wouldn't happen anywhere else, like there would 560 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: be enforcement, there would be a cultural like, hey, this 561 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: is not something that we do, so we don't do it, 562 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: and we tend not to think that way. We tend 563 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 3: to think like, well, if nobody's stopping me, then I'm 564 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: just gonna do. 565 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: Fact, everybody does it. And of course if I'm going 566 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: to talk about this, I just have to briefly address 567 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: the strain, philm that is the absolute agreement tomorrow. Motus 568 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: scooters don't seem to have to obey traffic laws. Why 569 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: is that they don't even start to obey many cases, 570 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: don't slow down for the red light. And everybody seems 571 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: okay with this. Nobody's doing anything about it, and nobody 572 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: will again until somebody that's some lawmaker knows gets hurt. 573 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: And this gets to your point, like with cameras and stuff, 574 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: like they need to have a plate, they need to 575 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: be insured, they need to be insured, and they need 576 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: to be that needs to be enforced. 577 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: And if you're working for a company, I think you 578 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: should be working for the company. So the companies on 579 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: the hook insurance wise as well. And so they can't 580 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: just say, well, independent contractor not not on me, because 581 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: it's possible that in some cases those companies are pushing 582 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: them to do. 583 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 3: A little Yes, isn't doing that right because they know 584 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: that they're going to be on the hook for it? 585 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: Right all right? 586 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 587 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty is our number. 588 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: More in a moment on WBZ. 589 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio, we only. 590 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: Have a little while left with Craig Fitzgerald to get 591 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: to all these new laws that are going to kick 592 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: in regarding automotive issues on January one. 593 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: So we have we have three states that we need 594 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: to cover, and we can cover two pretty quickly Rhode Island. 595 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: Rhode Island, some fees are going to go up, especially 596 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: in regards to EV's, which it's a little I don't know, 597 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: it's a little weird, uh removal of or they know, no. 598 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 3: So what they're going to do is registration fees are 599 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: based by weight in in Rhode Island. Uh so it's 600 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 3: a you know where EV's can be heavier. You may 601 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: pay some additional registration fee there. But also you're going 602 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: to get a fifteen dollars a year dot sub search 603 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: charge and a three dollars fifty cent fee if you 604 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: register an EV and you still have to pay an 605 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: xise tax there, which I think is I think staks. 606 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: Why should evs be exempt from x sciz tax. 607 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: They're not exempt, you're going to pay They shouldn't be. 608 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: You should pay an excesse tax like everything else. What 609 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: they don't pay is gas tax because they're not buying gas, 610 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 3: but they're buying electricity, which is taxed like crazy. 611 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Right, So now it's just an unfair fee as far 612 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. 613 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: And then Vermont used car dealers in Vermont have to 614 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: retain records for all of their vehicle's last safety inspections, 615 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: which isn't I don't know what the issue is that 616 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 3: would have made that come up. But they also must 617 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 3: include a statement about the buyer right to get their 618 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: vehicle inspected by an independent mechanic of their choice before 619 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: the sale is completed. Can you say that in another 620 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: way so that I understand it? So, if you're buying 621 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 3: a car from a used car dealer, you must include 622 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: a statement somewhere that says you have the right to 623 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: go get this vehicle checked out by a mechanic, buy 624 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: an independent mechanic. They have to They have to tell 625 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: that to people, because I think most people don't realize 626 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: that they can ask to do that. 627 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Is there any time after the sale? No, it's before 628 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: before the sale, right right? But they have to allow 629 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: you to take it somewhere. Correct, So the dealer I 630 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: might say, well, we don't like you to take it. Yeah, 631 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: they have to include a statement now that says you 632 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: you are within your rights to do that, okay, So, 633 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: which I think is you know, pretty good for the consumer. 634 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: So this is the big one. This is main. 635 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: Main. 636 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: A few years ago, we talked about Kke Last trucks. 637 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 2: A few minutes ago. 638 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: K Glass trucks are small pickup trucks built for the 639 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 3: Japanese market. They're just a little tiny cab and a 640 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: little tiny bed. They're minuscule vehicles, but they're very useful. 641 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: Most of them are four wheel drive, most of them 642 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 3: are right hand drive, and a ton of them got 643 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 3: imported here in the United States. Maine a few years 644 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: ago said you cannot you cannot register these because of 645 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: safety concerns. We don't believe that they have they haven't 646 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: passed us DOT certification, even though they are more than 647 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: twenty five years old. We will not register them in 648 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: the state of Maine. And it never made sense to 649 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: me why they did that until this makes sense. Now 650 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: you can register an ATV and then use it on 651 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: public roads in the state of Maine. So my feeling was, 652 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: my thought was that the ATV dealers in the state, 653 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: which are pretty there's a lot of them, had been 654 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: come powerful enough to lobby the state to a make 655 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: sure that you are able to register these things to 656 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: drive on the road. Atvatvs and restrict K class trucks, 657 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: which are essentially they do the same job, but they're 658 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 3: a lot cheaper than an ATV is. 659 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: Now, so people are gonna have to use ATVs to 660 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: do certain chores like farm chores, correct, correct, that need 661 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: to go on the road. So this is I see, 662 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 2: so people are using them. 663 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: People are using them recreationally, right, basically they're yeah, they 664 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: may be using them for work too, for but these 665 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 3: are the side by side style ATVs that essentially are 666 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: like a car that have no safety regulations whatsoever, aside 667 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: from having a roll cage on them. 668 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: They have seat belts, but you know you're not You've 669 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: not even required to use them. 670 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 3: So the safety argument from the state about K T 671 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 3: was irrelevant, Like it's it doesn't mean anything, because if 672 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 3: you're willing to register these things for the road, the 673 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: K trucks are just as safe. They have good seatbelts, 674 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: they have a safety cage, they're just as safe as 675 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: an ATV would be. 676 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: So the safety thing was a red herring. 677 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: Interesting and I think this I think it was leading 678 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: up to this where ATV dealers they knew they could. 679 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: You know, these things are expensive now they're twenty five 680 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: grand and up and they wanted to be able to 681 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: sell these. 682 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: Craig, I only have thirty seconds, so I want to 683 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: all right, man, I want to say bye, thank you 684 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: so much, but I also want you to tell everybody 685 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 2: who you said. I look like I'm not wearing a 686 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: hat or anything tonight. 687 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 3: I looked at Bradley and he looked like Stanley Tucci. 688 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 3: I know I made your day. 689 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: I love that Stanley Tucci has this really cool show 690 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: called Just Discovering Italy or something like that. Yeah, I 691 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: really appreciate that. You know. I do save my head everyone. 692 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: I do shave my head. I always wear a hat 693 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: because it's my head gets so cool. You yourself are 694 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: wearing a Santa hat. If any, it's not shame from 695 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: being bald. It's when you have a shaved head, if 696 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: your head gets cool. All right, thank you so very much, Craig. 697 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: Of course you're happy to be here. You're the man, 698 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: and I'm here for another couple of hours. Gonna be 699 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 2: open lines. I had such a good time last night 700 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: with you all the open lines. Let's do it again. 701 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: What do you say? Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, 702 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: thirty