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Speaker 1: On this next guest as we head off to the

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Speaker 1: KWI Commaspert Health Hotline and bring on legendary broadcaster commentator

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Speaker 1: Jim Gray. Joining us here Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, and

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Albright. Jim, thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Dave, Ryan, Benjamin. How you doing.

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Speaker 3: Dave?

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you as well. Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: It's been uh, it's been a long time when you

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Speaker 4: when you think I was thinking about how long?

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Speaker 3: When you think about your career.

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Speaker 4: Which has been storied, and I mean such unbelievable length.

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Speaker 4: Are there two or three You've done boxing, You've done football,

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Speaker 4: You've done basketball. There really hasn't been a sport that

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Speaker 4: you haven't covered, or a topic or subject. I mean,

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Speaker 4: do you have a couple that that maybe mean more

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Speaker 4: to you, that you enjoyed more When you think about

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Speaker 4: your career.

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Speaker 2: I mean I look back with back on it, Dave,

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Speaker 2: and it's all been, you know, a whirlwind, and it's

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Speaker 2: been you know, I've been really fortunate and lucky. I'm

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Speaker 2: just a kid from Hudson Street. Yeah, we grew up,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I still here in my head and

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Speaker 2: I'm getting goosebumps. I'm actually getting goosebumps as I think

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Speaker 2: about this. The miracle has happened. The Broncos are going

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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. Yeah, okay, So I'm thinking about that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about Floyd Littleby and carried Off as

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Speaker 2: a kid and my dad would take me out the

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Speaker 2: Bear Stadium and we sit on those wooden benches. So

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Speaker 2: it's all been fantastic. And I can hear Bob Martin

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Speaker 2: growing up in Kurky Owdy from NBC and from Wyoming

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Speaker 2: and so forth. So you know, you ask me, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're at the Super Bowl, you don't think, well, boy,

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Speaker 2: i'd really rather be in Soul for the Olympics. And

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Speaker 2: when you're in Soul for the Olympics, you're not thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: I'd really like to be at Augusta right now. So

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Speaker 2: you know, wherever you are, it's just been it's just

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Speaker 2: been great. And I've been lucky with the NBA and

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Speaker 2: the NFL and so many great boxing events, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just grateful really when I look back that the

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Speaker 2: opportunity that Channel nine gave me was JBTV back then

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Speaker 2: became ka USA and Roger Ogden and all those folks

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Speaker 2: in Denver. Mike Nolan, great treat mentor, and Dan Ryan

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Speaker 2: and Bobby Anderson and those guys were at Corey McPherrin.

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Speaker 2: They were so great to me as a kid. You know,

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Speaker 2: if they'd have been mean and rude, I probably would

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Speaker 2: have been, you know, welling time for at and T

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Speaker 2: or something. I don't know what I'd have been doing.

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Speaker 2: But they were just great, really patient people and made

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Speaker 2: me laugh and made me better. And so it's just

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Speaker 2: been great. I mean, I've seen what's going on with

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Speaker 2: you since your days at CU and coming up through

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Speaker 2: Larry's immer and all that, and I was just look

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Speaker 2: at this, Look at what happens.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Just look at what happens, and you keep working hard

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Speaker 2: and you get lucky and you here, you are, here,

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Speaker 2: we are.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Hey, Jim.

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Speaker 1: I've always loved your interview style, and I'd love to know,

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Speaker 1: like who you learned from to get that style or

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Speaker 1: is that something you just sort of developed over time

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Speaker 1: and what would.

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Speaker 3: You attribute that to.

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Speaker 2: Well, when I was a video tape editor back in

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Speaker 2: didn't want to learn a new press. So I would

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Speaker 2: would watch them both, and they were both in different genres,

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Speaker 2: I would just watch them intently. I didn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then with the Iran hostage crisis and so forth,

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Speaker 2: and I just say, wow, this is just marvelous. So

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Speaker 2: I would just spend that time in that editor after

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Speaker 2: at like eleven o'clock because the news got off at

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Speaker 2: same time. And that's kind of I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I patterned myself after them, because you know, they're so

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Speaker 2: great that nobody can pat it themselves after them. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: just kind of looked at that and I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's really fascinating how great they are. So just listen.

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Speaker 2: And my dad always told me my dad was my hero.

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Speaker 2: He's a great man. Loved Denver. And my dad always said, Jimmy,

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Speaker 2: pay attention and listen. So I kind of had that

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Speaker 2: then you have to know, you have to know the material.

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Speaker 2: And Bill Walton was so instructive to me. We spent

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Speaker 2: what what Coach Wooden would say to him failing to

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Speaker 2: prepare or preparing to fail Jim. And so after hearing

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Speaker 2: that six hundred and eighteen times within the course of

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Speaker 2: ever be unprepared. Even if you don't Dave, you go

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Speaker 2: up and you do those games for see you and

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Speaker 2: the Broncos and so on and so forth. Percent of

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Speaker 2: it stays in your head and you never use it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that five percent that.

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Speaker 4: You do use, you're ready with I obviously want to

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Speaker 4: got to ask you a question. And I've known you

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Speaker 4: for a long long time, have great respect for you.

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Speaker 4: I've never asked this that the football and the basketball,

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Speaker 4: the baseball stuff all made sense to me. How did

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Speaker 3: Seen game. How did that happen for you?

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Speaker 2: I was a video tape editor over there a Channel nine.

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Speaker 2: As we were just talking about Dave, and I was

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Speaker 2: in the in the station one night, early morning rather

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Speaker 2: running in and she said, Jim, I know you know sports.

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Speaker 2: You were the sports intern. You edit all the sports

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Speaker 2: video tape. Go out and interview Muhammad Ali. He's two

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Speaker 2: But that compliment was the greatest compliment I'd ever had

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Speaker 2: and he was mesmerized by Ali. He got up and

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Speaker 2: So when I got into the Boxing Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: all of these years later in two thousand and four

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Speaker 2: we became friends, and all those years later from seventy

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Speaker 3: Wow hits wow, wow, incredible time.

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Speaker 1: Hey Jim, we could do this all day, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to ask you about the Hall of Excellency

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Speaker 3: Tell me a little about it.

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Speaker 2: All of excellence is all the great sports memorabilion our

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Speaker 2: They've been a great partner, Jeffrey Sofer in the Fountain

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Speaker 2: We celebrate Bill Belichick with his most Warren Hoodie and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something in there or like I say, challenge.

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Speaker 3: So tremendous.

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Speaker 2: On the strip right now, you'd see twenty five people

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Speaker 2: dressed up as Elvis, so his actual suit lives. Elvis

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Speaker 2: Get on over there and see it. They won all

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Speaker 2: this stuff in front of the public and we're trying

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Speaker 2: to share it with everybody to inspire the next generation.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, heye Jim.

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Speaker 1: People can check it out at All of Excellence dot org.

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Speaker 3: This was a treat. Really appreciate the time. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your time out in California and Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: All right, say hello to everybody in Denver. My brothers

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Speaker 2: course Dave appreciate having me

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Speaker 3: On you always great