1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Go big thanks to Dukes. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: The barbecue pork ribs are on the menu until I 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: think mid next week is what John said, And they're 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: going away until the fall of next year, until the 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: winter of next year. So jump on the web and 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: get yourself at table Dukeseafood dot com and definitely try 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: those barbecue pork ribs. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: It's funny, Jackson, Is that your name? Jackson? 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: We were sitting in the sports pit today before the 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: show began and the Mike McDonald news came down and 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: both the John Harbor the sorry John Harbon news, and 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: both of us looked at each other and said, you 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: know what, if this were a college football team, we'd 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: be crapping ourselves right now. It's a different world on 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 2: the name, totally crapping ourselves because Mike McDonald was there 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: for how many years, Jackson and Baltimore nine years total 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: with the Ravens. You think they wouldn't love to have 18 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald back right now replacing John Harbaugh. Well, they're 19 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: gonna call and they're gonna ask for permission, and they'll 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: get denied by the Seahawks. I mean, this is not 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: college football. This is not the idiot land of college football, 22 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: which just reminds you how dumb college football really is. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're under contract, you're under contract. 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine. 25 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: If the NFL had buyouts the way that college football does, 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: and we're all sitting here looking at Mike McDonald's deal. Dude, 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the guy's got a four million dollar buyout. Man, that's nothing. 28 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: Ravens can pay that right away. He's walking out the 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: frickin doors. So thank god the NFL gets it right. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 2: Unlike college football, Well. 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: They can trade for how many first round draft picks 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: would we hate to give up for Mike McDonald? 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: I mean, what did Gruden? 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: Gruden got two? That's a great question. How many would 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: you take? 36 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: Ten? 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 5: Not ten? 38 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Ten? 39 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: I'd take a lot more than Sam Donald. 40 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I do anything to give him up. 41 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: I mean we've had this conversation before about Sam Donald 42 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: and Mike McDonald. So you asked me, you asked me, 43 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: just give me a number four first rounders. 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Sure, Well that's what I talked about on your weeks 45 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: ago when we were talking Sam Donald. 46 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. 47 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 48 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it because again, guys, these first round 49 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: picks could turn out to be complete turd sandwiches that 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 2: are worth nothing. 51 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: You say that, although John Snyder's hit rate is pretty 52 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: damn good. 53 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I understand that. But you've got you. 54 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: But you you use those draft picks, and you spend 55 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: those draft picks to do what to find a quarterback 56 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: and to win football games? 57 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: You're already there. 58 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: Why would you even risk taking a step back to 59 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: take a step forward to get you right back to 60 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: where you're at today. 61 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Well, there are many people out there listening. I know 62 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 3: because I've heard from him then saying Mike McDonald can 63 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: because he's Mike McDonald, and because John Schneider's John Schneider. 64 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: There's a lot of quarterbacks that this franchise can win 65 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: with with Mike McDonald, John Schneider and this defense. I'm 66 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: not saying I'm necessarily one of those people, but I 67 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: know there are a ton of people out there that 68 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: feel that way. 69 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's dumb. I mean, I just come out. 70 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know what you people 71 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: are watching. I don't know what you're looking at. I mean, 72 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: you've got a guy that was just today by a 73 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: impartial entity Bovada named as the favorite to win the 74 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP, and that's Sam Darnold. 75 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean you got national radio guys coming out saying 77 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: we got a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I 78 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: saw a couple of accounts over the weekend that we're 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: kicking around the idea of the coach of the Year 80 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: and that Mike McDonald might be the best coach in 81 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: football right now. His resume obviously doesn't stack up the 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: guys that have been around a long time. I understand that, 83 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: but this is ludicrous, guys. I mean again, I'm never one, 84 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: for the most part. Every now and then I'll violate 85 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: my own code. I think we all have a little 86 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: hypocrisy every now and then that comes out. 87 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: We're human beings. 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: But this idea that we're sitting here today on the 89 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: precipice of a number one seed at a Seahawk home 90 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: playoff game with fans for the first time since twenty sixteen, 91 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: and the favorite to win the Super Bowl for the 92 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: first time since probably twenty thirteen, at least fourteen by 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: the way, and we're here wondering if we could do 94 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: it with a different quarterback or a different head coach 95 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, there are people listening to this radio 96 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: show right now. 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: How do you hear this show? It's just explained it 98 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: to me. How do you hear this show with your 99 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: head up your ass? 100 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: Is there a speaker inside your ass that amplifies the 101 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: radio program? When you put your own head up your 102 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: own ass? Does it make it more difficult or easier 103 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: to hear what's coming out of the mouth of me 104 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: and Dick and Jackson? And can you actually watch TV 105 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: and see what these guys are doing on Sundays with 106 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: your head up your own ass? 107 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: So, I mean, what are we doing here? First up, 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: we're not doing it. First up, we're not having that conversation. 109 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: But I think I just had it right. And why 110 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: are you the one complaining about it? I would I 111 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: would say this. I would say this. Yesterday, Softie, you 112 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: asked the question, is that what we'll keep the Seahawks 113 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: from winning a Super Bowl? You asked that question, and 114 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: it took me a few minutes, and it took me 115 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: a few hours to kind of think through it. Honestly 116 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: asked that question, Yeah you did and segment and I 117 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: kind of spent a long time thinking about it, and Honestly, 118 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: I kind of think the only thing that keeps the 119 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: seah Iws from winning the Super Bowl is mistakes by 120 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and and like and like that's kind of 121 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: where I'm at. So, you know, dot dot dot to 122 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: this question right here is you know if Yeah, I 123 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: think if there was a I think there's ten quarterbacks 124 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL, you can win a Seat. 125 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: Bowl with Well, okay, let me just let me just 126 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: say this, and I mean this with all respect. 127 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so just take this with a grain of salt. 128 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: Okay, the idea that the only thing that can derail 129 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: the Seahawks is mistakes by the quarterback, there's a lot 130 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: of teams that can say that, Jackson, Okay, I mean 131 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: if if the Buffalo Bills get pick sixes by Josh Allen, 132 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: if the Niners get fumbles return for touchdowns by Brock Purty. 133 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not a testament my point, right, but 134 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: we're not exactly breaking new ground here, right. I mean 135 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: the idea that this this football team can only be 136 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: beaten if their quarterback barfs on himself. I think there's 137 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: a lot of football teams that would probably say the 138 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: same thing. 139 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: And my point is this. My point is this is. 140 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: That you're going to have to have a quarterback that 141 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: can do some pretty impressive things with the football. I 142 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: got PFF's numbers right in front of me. This guy's 143 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: one of the best deep ball passers in the NFL. 144 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: Would you rather have Gino Smith playing quarterback for this 145 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: football team right now? For how many more million dollars 146 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: a year? By the way, that ten million more? Are 147 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: you guys high? Are you kidding me? Like there should 148 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: be no complaining, no bitching people. 149 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: Look if we. 150 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Want to sit down and break this down like schematically 151 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: and say, hey, what could potentially derail the team? Okay, Jackson, 152 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: I'm fine having that conversation. But this idea that Sam 153 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: Darnold is some kind of a bum and that we're 154 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: all waiting for the guy to fall apart, I. 155 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Just don't get it. Who's saying that? Are they need 156 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: then they need to just no, they need to pull 157 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: their heads out of their ass. That's the person I 158 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: was talking about. 159 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: Yes, But I mean, I think you're both right. 160 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: I think that's a I think Softie, what Softie's raising 161 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: is just a stupid argument that people have, Like that's 162 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: just like how many times do you need to see 163 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: Sam Donald play unbelievably in the fourth quarter in overtime 164 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: of huge games? Solid let you know that he is. 165 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: He is a gamer in those types of seditions. 166 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: They win the RAMS game without him in. 167 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Of course not of course not, but Jackson's right as well. 168 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Like my number one concern would be the turnovers, my 169 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: number two concern is kind of holds hands with number one, 170 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: and that is what type of protection does he get? 171 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: The PFF Francis is the twentieth rank pass blocking unit 172 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: in the NFL. 173 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Not great, not horrible, but low middle right. 174 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: And if that breaks down over the next couple three weeks, 175 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: and that turns into Sam Donald turnovers either fumbles like 176 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: we saw in the first San Francisco game or interceptions 177 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: because the pocket is muddied, then it's gonna be partially 178 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: on Donald and it is gonna be partially on the 179 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: pass play. 180 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, PFF. 181 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: It's funny because PFF has got the Seahawks overall. As 182 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: you said, run blocking they got a greater fifteenth in 183 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: the NFL and ass blocking twentieth in the NFL. I mean, 184 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what more an offensive line does besides 185 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: pass block or run block right, Like do they serve 186 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: ice cream sandwiches at halftime? 187 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they do. 188 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus is basically telling you that they think 189 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: that the Seahawks offensive line is below average overall, slightly overall. 190 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: They're telling you that they think they're below average. And 191 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: here we are, and I totally agree. What was it 192 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: you or you or me? I don't who it was? 193 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: Voices all blend together talked about the difference between this 194 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: offensive line that we talk about now and the one 195 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: that we had for three or four years. 196 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: I think it was you that said every year there. 197 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: Was offensive line's gonna suck, offensive line's gonna suck, And 198 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: now they kind of don't suck, right, And now we 199 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: know there's four guys coming back next year, you can 200 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: probably lock in his starters, Abe Lucas, Jalen Sundale. 201 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: I think. 202 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: I think Sundale definitely is able and definitely cross. So 203 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: three of the five for sure, maybe four of the five, 204 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: And who knows what they feel about Bradford. They may 205 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: feel like he is deserving of a shot next year. 206 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'd like to see that spot upgraded, 207 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: but that's just me. The point is that we are 208 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: beyond the dreading the offensive line getting overrun, aren't we? Yes, 209 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: every single Sunday. We don't think they're phenomenal. We don't 210 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: think they're the best. They're not, you know, compared to 211 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three Husky offensive line. If there was 212 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: a Joe Moore Award for the NFL, they're not going 213 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: to win it. But they're also not awful anymore. And 214 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: that's a huge step from where these guys were. And 215 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: let's just say the Hawks have the. 216 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: Let's just say the thirtieth pick, right, They're gonna be 217 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: somewhere around there. 218 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: Let's say they have the thirtieth pick in the draft. 219 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: Well, there's only one position usually where you can still 220 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: a lot of years get the best player at that 221 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: position at the thirtieth pick in the draft, and that 222 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: is guard. 223 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Right, that is guard. 224 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: So go do now, I'm you know, pushing away the 225 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: playoffs for second and looking at the draft. Go do 226 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: it right guard in the first round. What you did 227 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: it left guard in the first round last year? 228 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Gray's Abeles. 229 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: I mean he's been unbelievable, right, I mean, he's been 230 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: everything you wanted. 231 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: The guy to be how many times? How often have 232 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: you heard his name? 233 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 4: He had that one holding penalty in the last week. 234 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,119 Speaker 1: I was like, what, Wow, that's amazing. 235 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: Disable got called for a pedalty, Yeah, where he kind 236 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: of barely went around and was kind of grabbed him 237 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: on the Kenny Walker run. 238 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: As all you're talking about a week. 239 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: But outside of that, I think we've all been pretty 240 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: freaking happy with the way Gray Zabels played this year. 241 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: And I just think again that there's this group of 242 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: folks and it's fine. 243 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's kind of what makes 244 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: this business work. 245 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, if if everybody who flipped 246 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: on sports talk radio every single day was totally content 247 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 2: with everything going on and happy, trust me, our listenership 248 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: would drop like a boulder. 249 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So you need people like that. 250 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: You need the skeptical Lesto B's that are out there 251 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: watching this football team play. But I just don't know 252 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: what more you expected the Seahawks to accomplish over the offseason. 253 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: They've gone from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold in one year. 254 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: They've gone from an offensive line that three years ago 255 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: couldn't block anybody to three years later, an offensive line 256 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: that is generally considered to be at least okay, which. 257 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: Is a gigantic step. They've gone from a guy in. 258 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll who clearly, and I hate to say this 259 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: because I love Pete Carroll, his time in the NFL 260 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: probably should be over to maybe the next great thing 261 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: the NFL head coaching circles has to offer. Have you 262 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: seen some of the names getting kicked around for head 263 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: coach Johnson, I believe recycled craft the same names, Cliff Kingsbury, Vance, 264 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: Joseph Brian Flores, Josh McDaniels, Cliff Kingsbury, blah blah blah. 265 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: And here we have Mike McDonald, who. 266 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: Might be the most innovative, young, best defensive mind the 267 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: NFL has to offer. Look at the changes they've made, 268 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: look at the draft picks they've made. What they've been 269 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: able to accomplish in this city has been unbelievable. The 270 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: timing of dumping Russell Wilson before he signed his big contract, 271 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: the timing of moving on from Pete Carroll and hiring 272 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has been unbelievable. 273 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: By John Schneider, So I don't know, man, Look. 274 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: I get it. People are on edge. Maybe maybe they're 275 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: just skeptical lest bees, and that's where this comes from. 276 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: I get it if you're on edge and you're, you know, 277 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: strongly desiring another Lombardi, and I'm right there with you. 278 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: But this is a time where everybody who's a part 279 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: of this football team right now, and I'm talking about coaches, players, 280 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: support staff, everybody, everybody over there should be celebrated for 281 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: what they just did. And if you don't think that 282 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: what you're seeing right now is good enough, your expectations 283 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: are just like your fricking head right up your own ass, unbelievable. 284 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: Well, and I think that the timing that, sorry Jack, 285 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: the timing that. 286 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: They like to me, I'm with you, Softy Carroll, the 287 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: timing that that he got fired was absolutely perfect. Because 288 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald and Ben Johnson were available. They waited, good 289 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: waited they'd be gone. And look at what's out there 290 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: right now. They're interviewing Clint Kubiak for head coaching jobs. 291 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: There is no Ben Jonson, there is no there is. 292 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 2: No Mike McDonald out there right Why do we think 293 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak is getting a look as a head coach? 294 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 4: Because the Seahawks are fourteen and three. 295 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: Because of Sam Donald, because of Sam Donald, because of 296 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: John Schneider and the players he put around Sam Darnold, 297 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: and because this defense is good enough to let them 298 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 2: get to fourteen and three. Right, So if Clint Kubiak, 299 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: where was he at before us? Was he in Marzona? 300 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: The Saints? 301 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: Let's say he stayed with the Saints and he's and 302 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: Kevin Moore decided for whatever reason? 303 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, you can stay on as might play call. 304 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: Nobody's even knowing his name. Are you kidding me? 305 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about Clint Kubiak Dick if he's still with 306 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: the Saints. 307 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: Oh, You're exactly right. 308 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes you need that timing and you got to make 309 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: the tough decisions, and John John Schneider made the tough 310 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: decision and everything has worked out even better than the 311 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: biggest optimist out there could have even. 312 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: Been for Yeah, I mean, like we said yesterday, this 313 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: is almost like a little bit too far ahead of 314 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: pace for this team. Right, Like if I would have 315 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: told you a year and a half ago when they 316 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: hired Mike McDonald hey Dick in January of twenty six, 317 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: they're going to be the number one seed in the NFC. 318 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: Have the best record in the NFL or the Broncos 319 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: also fourteen and three, by the way, so they'll be 320 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: tied with Denver for the best record in the NFL. 321 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna have a starting quarterback who's twenty eight and 322 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: six in his last thirty four starts in the regular season. 323 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,239 Speaker 1: You would have said that's ludicrous. 324 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, nobody does that like I think we need 325 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: to understand what John Schneider's doing is very rare. How 326 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: many general managers, off the top of your head, can 327 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: you name that had great success in the early part 328 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: of one decade and then waited another ten twelve years 329 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: to do it again? 330 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: One is it Ozzie Knew? Is that right? Is there 331 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: anybody else that comes to mind? 332 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: Him? 333 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: And I'm sure if we did little research we could 334 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: find somebody. The Patriot who is the Patriots? 335 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 5: Well? 336 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Was Bill Belichi g GM the whole time? I said, 337 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick the whole time? 338 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean, and he had the greatest quarterback in the 339 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: history of the NFL. So how many general managers have 340 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: done what John Schneider has done? I mean, we talked 341 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: about this, Dick. I think you and I maybe a 342 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: couple weeks ago that if John Schneider makes the Super 343 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: Bowl this year, he's probably locked himself up as a 344 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame executive. He might be a Hall of 345 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Famer already, to be honest with you. But you know, 346 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: that's a good question for Sando. If he makes the 347 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, can we sharp beat John Schneider 348 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: in with a gold jack. 349 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: Three super Bowls in eleven. 350 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Yes, years, But that's the difference. Rights, It's a. 351 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: Totally new team, and I think that's even hard team. 352 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: He talked about that with like NBA coaches, Right, We've 353 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: talked about that with guys who take over crap like 354 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Larry Brown. How many college programs did he take over 355 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: that were crappy and lead him to the Final four 356 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: and do it again and again. To me, that's harder 357 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: than just staying at one spot and winning the whole time. 358 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it's very difficult in the era of free 359 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: agency to do it. You know, Like people go back 360 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: and they say, well, look at what Tom Landry did. Okay, 361 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: but Tom Landry his players had nowhere to go. They 362 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: were locked in there, right, they were prisoners. They couldn't leave. 363 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: But for John Schneider to literally take a roster and 364 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: flip it over. Not just flip it over, but flip 365 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: it over two or three times. 366 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Right. 367 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: This is not like he took four guys and staid, 368 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: give me a new fifty whatever. 369 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: This is a. 370 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: Totally different club, different leadership, different players, different coaches, different everything. 371 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: The only consistent theme in this entire process, I'm sorry, 372 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: has been John Schneider because Paul Allen passed away. 373 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: And there's no players left. That's it. 374 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: That's the only consistent theme. 375 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: And for this guy to do this again, guys, I'll 376 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: be totally honest with you. I know I've used the 377 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: word ass a lot in the opening segment of this 378 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: radio show. And for all the kids out there and 379 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: the fathers and mothers who are offended, I apologize. Give 380 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: me your just shoot me an email to send you 381 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: five bucks to Taco time to make it up for you. 382 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: I don't think we spend enough time kissing his ass 383 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: on this radio station, because in this business, you know this, 384 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: we'll go the other way and rip guys when they 385 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: don't do well, will criticize them. And we spent the 386 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: entire offseason, at least a lot of us did, and 387 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: I will raise my hand. 388 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: I have no problem admitting it all right, he spent. 389 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: The entire offseason wondering if John Schneider was the guy, 390 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: could he do it again? Does he have enough left 391 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: in the tank to build this thing back up? So 392 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: if we're gonna sit here for six months and be 393 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: skeptical of somebody, when the guy delivers, we have to 394 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: give him his praise and his credit. John Schneider is 395 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: almost doing the impossible. Guys in the NFL, this doesn't 396 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: happen where a general manager sticks around this long and 397 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: has the dip that Schneider had, which, by the way, 398 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: wasn't that big of a dip comparatively speaking. 399 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: But part of it was his own doing because trading 400 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 3: away his first round picks for guys like Jimmy Graham, 401 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: and he was a victim of his own harve standards 402 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: that he set for himself, right, there's no question about that. 403 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: Like going nine and eight, nine and seven wasn't good enough. 404 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: But I don't think we spend enough time on this 405 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: radio show kissing that guy's butt. He freaking deserves it. 406 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: So we are damn lucky to have him in Seattle. 407 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: This is two general managers in the last six months 408 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: that were like kissing their butt. Right, we did it 409 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: with Jerry all fall off, so we're doing it with 410 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: John Snyder. Now we're in such a good mood right now. 411 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: Let me just let me just fast forward, let's say 412 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: two three months, and let me paint this picture. Is 413 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: that the Seattle Mariners are going in is one of 414 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: the top two favorites to get back to the World 415 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: Series from the American League. The Seattle Seahawks are coming 416 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: off of Super Bowl Championship. The announcement has come from 417 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: Adam Silver that the songs are returning, and then everything else. 418 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: We Seattle then becomes the face of the global sports world. 419 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that? 420 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the Mariners have a lot of work to 421 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: do to catch up to John Schneider. Okay, yes, they 422 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: have a lot of work to do right now. 423 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: My point was that we kissed Jerry to Poto's ass, rightfully, 424 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: so for the last three months of the season for sure, 425 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: since the trade. 426 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: Dead, and he deserves it. 427 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: But again, I mean, you know, look, I mean the 428 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: whole point of and I don't want to get off 429 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: track here, but the whole point of that tear down 430 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: by the Mariners, I think we'll agree, wasn't to make 431 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: Game seven of the AOC. Yes, it was to get 432 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: to a World Series and win it, right, that was 433 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: the So I mean, look, we we could very well 434 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: be sitting here. Nobody would be surprised if in five 435 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: weeks from now we're sitting here talking about the Seahawks 436 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: having a parade, and the parade might even be today, 437 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: on this Tuesday, by the way, we could be literally 438 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: sitting here in six weeks with a parade. 439 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 4: Is it going to be four degrees like it was 440 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: the last time? 441 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 442 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: I just. 443 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: For people that aren't satisfied with this, I don't know 444 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: what more you could have expected. 445 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, I just really don't. Well, there are a Super. 446 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: Bowl championship or bust. People out there that think you're 447 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: season is a failure. 448 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: If you don't win a sum And I told you 449 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: guys yesterday, I'm going to be disappointed if the Seahawks 450 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: don't make the Super Bowl. 451 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: That's you know, and I understand that. 452 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: But I'm just talking about like, if you're if you're 453 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: not happy with the move from Gino Smith to Sam Darnold, 454 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: what did you think you should have gotten Patrick Mahomes and. 455 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: His prime Joe Montana, Dan Marino. 456 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, like, if this isn't good enough to 457 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: jump from Gino to same, if that's not good enough 458 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: to please you, what would please you? In reality? What 459 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: would please you? We're gonna break what we got today. 460 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: Ray Roberts joins at four, John Wilner at five. 461 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Some bad news for the Orgon Ducks, by the way, 462 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: which is good news for us. 463 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: Coming up on ninety three three KJRFM from the. 464 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast studio. Now back to 465 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: Softy and Dick on your home for the Huskies, Kraken 466 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 5: and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point three 467 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: kJ R FM. 468 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: All right, a lot to get to you on a 469 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: busy Tuesday. 470 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: Ray Roberts, some former Seahawk offensive alignment will join us 471 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: coming up at four o'clock this afternoon for some Seahawk conversation. 472 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: John Wilner will join us as well. One of the 473 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: conversations we will have with John. You see the big 474 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: news involving the depth at running back for the Oregon 475 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: Ducks today, Jordan Davidson's got a broken clavicle. 476 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: He scored a touchdown last week. 477 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: I had two against Sexast Tech yeah, ten carries ninety 478 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: yards against JMU, couple of touchdowns against Tessa Texas Tech. 479 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: And they still have Whitnington obviously, but Jordan Davidson likely 480 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: not going to play in the game on Friday. And 481 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: I want to get a take from you guys if 482 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: you feel the same way I do, because there's a 483 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: couple of people that have asked me, would you take 484 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: an Oregon National championship if it meant the Seahawks won 485 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? And I said absolutely, yes, yes, one 486 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: hundred percent, I would do it. 487 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: Now part of it makes you want to vomit in 488 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: your own mouth as soon as it is to raise 489 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: the zero sign over your head. Yes for the National 490 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: champions Yes, that. 491 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Would be over. 492 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of Oregon Duck fans, by the way, 493 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: I just have you guys know that you not that 494 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: you don't know this, that are also Seahawk fans. By 495 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: the way, tons of Oregon fans are also Seahawk fans 496 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: and Mariner fans, and they used to be Sonic fans 497 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: back in the day. But the point is this, I'm 498 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: not I don't have and maybe it's because of what's 499 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 2: going on with the Seahawks right now, and it's kind 500 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: of like a you know, big shiny ball distracting me. 501 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: I don't have as much angst over the Oregon situation 502 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: now as I have in years past. Wow, you guys 503 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: with me on. 504 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: That, because what you just said, Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent, 505 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: My ninety nine percent of my sports attention right now 506 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: is on the Seattle Seawks. Maybe it's one hundred and 507 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: the reality is that the college football Playoff, I honestly, 508 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: I really just don't care. Like I get it at 509 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 3: Indiana Oregon should be a very good football game, and 510 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: I ole miss Miami, I guess mildly interesting. 511 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: I just don't even care. Well, because here's the thing, 512 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: it's the Seahawks. I can sit here and tell you 513 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: that right now I don't have as much angst over 514 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: Oregon potentially winning as I normally have. And then they 515 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: could go out in three weeks, two weeks from now, 516 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: whenever it is, and win it, and I might want 517 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: to walk into traffic. I might feel totally different when 518 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: that day actually shows up. Like going into the Rose 519 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: Bowl last year against Ohio State. You guys, remember, I 520 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: was paranoid as hell that Oregon was going to win 521 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: the National Championship and when they fell behind the gazillion 522 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: to nothing at a half time, it was the greatest 523 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: day of my life. 524 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I was like, this is unbelieva, you kidding me? 525 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I'm just I'm not I'm not 526 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: in knots over the idea of Oregon winning a title. 527 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 2: As much as I have been in years past, I 528 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: definitely do not, under any circumstances want to see it. 529 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: But I don't have as much angst about it today 530 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: as I did this time a year ago. 531 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: I think I think I've just figured out why. Why 532 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: Because last year we truly believe that they had a 533 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: national championship team. 534 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: They were number one. 535 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: Yes, this year, I don't, I do not think that 536 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: they will beat Indiana. Maybe I do not think they 537 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: would win the national championship if they did beat Indiana. 538 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 4: I think they are. 539 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: I think they are very good defense and a limited offense. 540 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: I've thought that all year long. I saw them in 541 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 3: person in front of my dogs. They were a limited 542 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: offense in front of my dogs, and they're going to 543 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: be a limited offense in front of Indiana this way. 544 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, and look, I mean they're still as close as 545 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: they've been since they they played who Auburn in the 546 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: national championship game. This is the closest they've been to 547 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: a national title. Have they been in the title game 548 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: since that game? 549 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: When? 550 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: No? 551 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't They lost to cam Newton. 552 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: Oh Oregon's the Ohio State augustin the title game. Yeah, 553 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: for first year of the CFP, right, twenty fourteen? Is 554 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: that correct? Right? 555 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: Didn't they face Ohio? Yes, they lost in twenty fourteen? Yeah, correct. 556 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: They lost the BCS championship to cam Newton in twenty ten. 557 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: They lost the CFP Championship to Oregon in twenty fourteen. 558 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: So here's the point. This is the closest they've been 559 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: since then in eleven years. And I, Dick, I agree 560 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: with you that there's been better Oregon teams than what 561 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: we're seeing now. 562 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: I think each of the last two teams were better 563 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: than this Oregon team. 564 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this Oregon team isn't going up against the competition 565 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: that those Oregon teams went up against. 566 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: Indiana might be that guy. 567 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: I like Indiana a lot. 568 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: That might be. 569 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: I think Indiana's gonna beat him. I think Indiana the 570 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage will prove to be more physical they'll 571 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: prove to be deeper, and I think that will beat 572 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 2: them on Friday Night in Atlanta. But it would not 573 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: stun the hell out of me if the Indiana magic 574 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: carpet ride came to an end and Oregon won the 575 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: game on Friday and played for the national title. 576 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: My worry level going into last year's playoffs was an 577 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: eight and a half out of ten that this thing 578 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: is not gonna happen, That this thing is gonna happen 579 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: for Oregon. 580 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: That's not now. 581 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: Four. If they beat Indiana, it goes to about a 582 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: seven or a seven and a half. But I still 583 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: don't think they beat Miami in Miami. If Miami takes 584 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: care of Old Miss, and like you said, it's a 585 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: home game for Miami in the National Championship. 586 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: I just think nothing would surprise me right now in 587 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: college football, right with the way this whole thing is gone, 588 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: the way the bracket's gone him in Ohio States, I 589 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: thought Georgia was gonna win the whole thing. I never 590 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: thought they'd lose to Ole Miss in the second round. Never, 591 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: and they're done. 592 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: Man. 593 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just crazy how the parody 594 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: in college football and the parody in the NFL. They're 595 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: both showing their heads at the same time in the 596 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: same season, so nothing would surprise me. But you know, 597 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: whatever the reason is, you've got your reason. You've got 598 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: your reason. I don't even know what my reason is. 599 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: I just know the way I feel right, and the 600 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: way I feel is that I just don't have as 601 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: much angst over this. I'm not I'm not sitting around 602 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: freaking out Like when the Thunder we're about to win 603 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: the NBA Championship. 604 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: That had me extremely bummed because we knew they were. 605 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: The betremely okay, So this Oregon thing, if they do it, 606 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: they freaking do it at some point in my lifetime. 607 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: To those bastards are gonna win a title at some point. 608 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. All right, it'd be great if it didn't. 609 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: We can hold that over their head forever. But aren't 610 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: we convinced at some point us it's gonna happen. Much money, 611 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: They're going to win at some point. So if it 612 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: happens this year, it may as well happen in a year, 613 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: Jackson where the Seahawks can distract us with a Super Bowl. 614 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. If the Seahawks. 615 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: You know, we're you know, lined up for the number 616 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: ten pick in the draft, right and our. 617 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Season was on. 618 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: Can you imagine we'd be focusing really not yet on 619 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: the draft, we'd be focusing on our ri like Mariners 620 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: in a couple of months. And do we really have 621 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: to look at what's going on right now in the 622 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: final four. 623 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: Because that would be the attention. 624 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: We haven't talked to any CFP really because of what 625 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: because of the sis? It's just like the Mariners, right, 626 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: you know, you don't talk a lot of football in 627 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 2: October because the Mariners are kicking ass and they're on 628 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: the doorstep of a stinking world. 629 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 3: Now, why you're not paying attention to Justson this particular 630 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: year is because the Seahawks. 631 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: Because because the nation's paying attention. 632 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 3: The ratings are off the hook games and not only that, 633 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: the ratings where I talk to Wilner about this at five, 634 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: the ratings for the Bowl games. Everybody says ball games 635 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: don't matter anymore, ball games should go away. The ratings 636 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: for the Bowl games were unbelievable. 637 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, the Rose Bull ratings between Alabama and Indiana, I 638 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: think I saw a stat where they outdrew like Game 639 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 2: seven of the NBA Finals, like fivefold, twenty two million, 640 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: ridiculous how many people. 641 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: Tuned in to watch that game? So, hey, people are watching. 642 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: But again, we're talking about us, right, We're talking about 643 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: us here in Seattle, and I think Jackson, you're probably 644 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: right that we are distracted by Thewks. If the Seahawks 645 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: were done, we'd be sitting here and we'd be talking 646 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: about Hey, listen, you're tuning into your home for Indiana football. Okay, 647 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: there you are, right, whatever, that's what we'd be doing. 648 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 2: We would have had the James Madison head coach on 649 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: the air. We would have talked about them and all that, 650 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: and so, thank god, thank god the Seahawks are giving 651 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: us this run, because you know what, it actually gets 652 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: kind of tiresome, does it not after a while every 653 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: single year, when your season's over and your NFL team 654 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: is done before the playoffs even get going, really in earnest, 655 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 2: the one thing that you turn to is sports hate 656 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: to keep you occupied. And right now we're not turning 657 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: to sports hate, and it kind. 658 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Of feels good. 659 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: We'll get a break a little fun with audio next. 660 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: Ray Roberts at four on ninety three three KJRFM. 661 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: It's now time for Sufday in Digg's Fun with Audio. 662 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy g Pawt Star Jimmy mister daroppolo. Now let's have 663 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: some fun with audio. 664 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: All right, we're back on a busy Tuesday afternoon. 665 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: Ray Roberts joining us. 666 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: Coming up next segment right here, talks from Seahawks as 667 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait. 668 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: To see who the Seahawks play. And then we wait 669 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: and wait and wait and wait to. 670 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: See them play. The wait is killing me already, man 671 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: for sure. All Right, here we go a little fun 672 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: with audio slash. Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick, 673 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: did you. 674 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Happen to hear that? What's that? 675 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: Dave? 676 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: What's that? Dick? 677 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't forget today as a cracking 678 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: ticket Tuesday, I gotta remember to say that Jackson did 679 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: remind me? 680 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: I got distracted by the segment we're doing here. 681 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: We haven't done it this hour, by the way, so 682 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: stay tuned between now and the next like five minutes. 683 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: Montana State beat Illinois State last night in a wild 684 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: FCS National championship, and the final seconds in overtime the 685 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: game saw a block, game winning field goal, a fourth down, 686 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: game time touchdown by a player named Taco, and a 687 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: game winning extra point. Here was the call on ESPN 688 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: by our old buddy, Dave Fleming and former Seahawks. Did 689 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: brock Osweiler played for the Seahawks or was that Paxton 690 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: Lynch actly that played for the Seahawks former ASU Sun devil? 691 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: For sure, brock Osweiler his second career start at Illinois State. 692 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: Snap hold kick is booked, It's on the turf. 693 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: HiT's stoked up. He returned to the forty five of 694 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Illinois State. Exeth Johnson comes up of the ball, four. 695 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: Down and over time they bring pressure lamps and throws 696 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: heads un touchdown. 697 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: Talk to dun. 698 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Miles Sandsteed snap hold kick Dad for a national championship. 699 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: That's very cool. Fleming's great man. He's just a phenomenal broadcaster. 700 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: And it is unbelievable to me how there is such 701 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: an appetite for sports broadcasting right now. I mean, there 702 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: was nothing else on last night. Right I'm gonna got 703 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: great ratings. It's unbelievable. So good call by them to 704 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: put that game on Monday night. And I wonder if 705 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: now this is going to be kind of a staple 706 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: that Hey, between the NFL Playoffs and the College football 707 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: semi Finals, we all gather around the telly on a 708 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: Monday night and we watched the FCS National Championship game. 709 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: I think the FCS National Championship will at one point 710 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: involve people like Oregon State and Washington State and Iowa State. 711 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, Cougar fans are also Seahawk 712 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: fans are having a good time. They're enjoying themselves, and 713 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: you just came and just pissed right on their parade. 714 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, unbelievable up and shows violence. 715 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: I mean, wouldn't you want to win a national championship? 716 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. 717 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if you were a fan of those teams 718 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 3: would win a national championship, Well, you're nuts. Three teams 719 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: and about forty others now have zero z ro o 720 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: chance to win a national champ unless they join that. 721 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think they have a better shot. You 722 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: know what. 723 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: That's a good conversation for John Wilner at five because 724 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 2: James Madison just made the College Football Playoff because they 725 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: have to. 726 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: They got hammered. 727 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: I understand that, right, But who's got a better shot 728 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: of winning a national championship Washington in the Big ten 729 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: long term or the Cougars in the Pac twelve long term? 730 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 3: Are you. 731 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. 732 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think John is going to surprise you with 733 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: his answer. By I think John's going to definitely surprise 734 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: you with his answer on who's got a better chance 735 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: of participating in the college football playoffs. 736 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: He's going to say the Pac twelve. 737 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 4: You just said, Wazoo, Yeah, both of them. 738 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: Both of them? He might say, both, Dick. I'm not 739 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: saying I agree with that. 740 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that, with the way this thing is 741 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: set up, are the Cougars more likely to finish near 742 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 2: the top of the Pac twelve and get themselves into 743 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: the playoff or are the Huskies more apt to finish 744 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: into the top three to four of the Big ten 745 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: and get themselves in the playoffs? 746 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: Right? 747 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: There is the interesting question. 748 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: Because it's very easy for a you know, a bad 749 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: Cougar team to win a bad conference. 750 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: Huskies are always going to have a hard. 751 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: Time getting into the playoff. Well, the Huskies. 752 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: Do we agree that it's going to sixteen teams very soon? 753 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 754 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, the Huskies have been in the top sixteen 755 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: of the poll going into the playoffs five times in 756 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 3: the last ten years. We know that's not how it 757 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: exactly will play out, because if James Madison's they'll give 758 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: spots to teams win lower sixteen, it won't be. 759 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: That just that it should be, but it won't be. 760 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: It'll be twelve or thirteen of the top sixteen and 761 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: then three other teams from somewhere else exactly. 762 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, then conservatively it's three times out of ten years, 763 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: and so the Cougars would have to win. You're telling 764 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: me that the Cougars are going to win more than 765 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: thirty percent of all the Pac twelve championship. 766 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: I have no idea this with with these other teams 767 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: coming in, I don't have any clue what this thing 768 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: is going to look like. Is it possible they could 769 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: dominate that conference? 770 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 771 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: Because if possible, they have a hard time. Yeah. Again, 772 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm not I'm willing to repeat after 773 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: me and say three words. 774 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm willing to dance with you on the on the 775 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 3: berths into the tournament. 776 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm not willing to dance on. 777 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: Any not just Washington State, any of the non power 778 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: for schools winning a national championship more so than a 779 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,959 Speaker 3: Power two school. 780 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, but I still think again, if they're 781 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: having a better chance of getting in, they're giving themselves 782 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: more opportunities. And with the with the nil thing and 783 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: the portal. Look, I don't think Wazu was ever gonna 784 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: have any money to spend like Indiana is spending, for 785 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: God's sakes. But I think there's a big curiosity for 786 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: me on how they do in that conference for sure. 787 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to. 788 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: Hear that Marcus Spears was on NFL Live on ESPN 789 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: yesterday and did not give the Carolina Panthers any chance 790 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: of beating the Rams in the first run of the 791 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: playoffs this weekend. 792 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 6: The Panther's like a piece of candy somebody throw out 793 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 6: the school yard and somebody find it on the concrete, 794 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 6: Like I got some candy. 795 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay, they're not supposed to be out there, like. 796 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: It's just it's just I'm still is the candy unwrapped 797 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 4: in this? 798 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Oh? 799 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: What happened there? I think my computer stross now that 800 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: happened yesterday? 801 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: Did this yesterday? 802 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: I got the funny part though out that was good 803 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: So the point is is that the Panthers really don't. 804 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 2: You want to touch him, you'll get you'll get something 805 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: you'll pick up, you know, some kind of virus or whatever. 806 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers are the James Madison of the NFL. 807 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty bad, man. I mean when they played 808 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: the Seahawks, I was like, yeah, I'm not impressed. They 809 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: look they looked like a team, did they not that 810 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: were only in the playoffs because somebody from that division 811 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: had to be a playoffs exactly right. And I would 812 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: be pretty surprised if the Rams lost to them. I 813 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: would not be surprised if it was a closer game 814 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: than what people are making it out to be. I 815 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 2: think the Rams are ten point favorites in this game. 816 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: I just think anytime you take a team like that 817 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: and you put them on grass right away from their 818 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: place in Carolina outdoors versus indoors. I have no idea 819 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: what the weather is going to be like this weekend 820 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: down there. If it's raining like crazy, but I think 821 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: the Rams will win. Yes, I would not. I would be, 822 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: just like you, very surprised if the Panthers won that. 823 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: My knee jerk reaction is always to take the big 824 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 3: dog in a playoff game, particularly at home. But then 825 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: I just look at those two teams and I'm like, Okay, 826 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: how in the world are the Panthers going to be 827 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 3: within ten points at the end of the game against 828 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: the Rams. 829 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: Well, they could be down sixteen to seventeen points and 830 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: get a garbage touchdown. By the way, the Panthers play 831 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: on turf, So I just want to correct myself. 832 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that? 833 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: What's that? 834 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 3: Dick? 835 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 2: From the NFL Network yesterday, Former Seahawk fullback Michael Robinson 836 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: discussed how dangerous the Seahawks team is to win the 837 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 2: NFC and the Super Bowl. 838 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 6: They're extremely dangerous. And I won't say this too especially 839 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 6: about the Seahawks defense. We need to stop comparing them 840 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 6: to the Legion of Boom. This is their this is 841 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 6: their time. This is the current Seahawks teams. This the 842 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 6: current Seahawks defense's time. They aren't the Legion of Boom. 843 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 6: They're their own animal. Yeah, Okay, they gotta stop. You know, 844 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 6: they're not living in our shadow anymore. They're their own animal. 845 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 6: And I think when you have a championship defense like this, 846 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 6: when you can run the football, you can gain the 847 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 6: blade of grass whenever you want it, and you have 848 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 6: a coach who's like. 849 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: A boy genius. 850 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: When you talk about, you know, scheming things to attack 851 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 6: opposing offenses, they're gonna be very difficult to deal with. 852 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I had a conversation with somebody who 853 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: said this is better than the LOB. I was like, guys, 854 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: come on, they led the NFL in scoring defense four 855 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 2: years in a row, which had never been done until then, 856 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: and now you're expecting it to happen again ten years later. 857 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: Someone's going to lead the NFL in scoring defense for 858 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: four years in a row. And I don't think the 859 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: NFL looks the difference with this defense versus that LOB. 860 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: We really probably should have this conversation when the season's over. 861 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, that LOB defense played the 862 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: greatest scoring offense in the history of the NFL and 863 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 2: crapped all over them in the Super Bowl. That is 864 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 2: what makes that defense different than the Chicago Bears and 865 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens. 866 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: But if this team wins three more games and the 867 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 3: defense is the reason for it, right, that talk will 868 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: be the number one NFL talking to for the next 869 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: six months. 870 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: But who who in the AFC offensively is comparable to 871 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: the twenty thirteen Denver Broncos. Nobodyody, right, and they, I 872 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: mean they probably should have shut them out, to be 873 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 2: honest with you, in that game. 874 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: And that's never been done in the history of the NFL. 875 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: So you you show me a defense that leads the 876 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: NFL in scoring, and then you show me that same 877 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: defense that shut down the highest scoring offense in the 878 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 2: history of pro football, and then we can start having 879 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: that conversation. 880 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna break. 881 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 2: Ray Roberts joins next on ninety three to three KJARFM.