1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cracking This Morning, a presentation of the Kraken 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Audio Network Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Here's Mike Benton. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Clicks DROI Kracking this morning on a Thursday, January eighth, 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Mike Benton with you again the crack and take on 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: the Minnesota while for the second time this season to 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: end two games at home as far as that run 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: seven o'clock face off once again at Climbate Pledge Arena. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Ever it fits you, Alciniski on the call, airtime six 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: point thirty on the Global Credit Union Crackin Audio Network. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: I'll join you back by the Corse Light landing in 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: section twenty. 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Coming up, we'll hear from Berkeley 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Catton two goals in the night that he scored his 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: first career NHL goal, and also more intel in a 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: conversation we'll get from Crackingweekly and our visit with Ryan 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Clark of ESPN. Where the Crack and stand right now 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: at the halfway point, and where this Western Conference playoff 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: picture looks like as far as the buyers and sellers 28 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: here perhaps down the road. Ryan Clark of ESPN joining 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: us here from Crackingweekly, which aired last night. 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: Coming up in just a bit, our. 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: Flashback takes us to the opener of this two game 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: homestand and the end back to back games where the 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Kraken face the Boston Bruins with no signs of slowing down. 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: Shop held donk side, ask for ro forced off the buck, 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 4: Berkeley capton delayed penalty coming to Boston. 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: Catten fires stop. 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: There it is Berkeley Catton his first goal in the 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: National Hockey League from the right side, fires it in 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: by Slavon. 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 6: Seattle leads too on while Berkeley Katten down the right 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 6: side has the can trelling behind him. It's an odd 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 6: man rush. Catton gets open for a one timeer. He 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 6: puts that fuck back on Den Hard too, who cracking congratulations. 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Berkeley Chet lost his foot it Mason low Rack forcing 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: him off the fuck in front. 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: Goodres Ben Myers. 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 7: In the rows slot off. 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 5: The feed from Ty Carshay H's three two Seattle lead. 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 6: Well starts with the Malonzi shot on net and that's 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 6: a great work behind and that by ty Krcy. He 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 6: goes to battle with Lorai right behind, swinging by the net. 52 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 6: He comes up with a buck perfect feet out to 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 6: Ben Myers, puts it on his tape, Myers putting it home. 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 6: The fourth line strikes again three to two. 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: Cracking seconds left. 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: Fit's done, walks. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 5: In, passes it across, but can at the crosser st 58 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 5: Sheriff mccan on the power play zeros. 59 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: On the board. 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: They will look. 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: At it if it stands. 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 6: Let's say four two Seattle recond lead on Jarren mckan 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 6: with a bomb right from the blue line off the post, 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 6: it in love side down laws swinging. If discounts, this 65 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 6: makes it four two. 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: This will count the buck crosses with about point four 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 5: on the game. 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: Crowns through the hands. It off to Cocko. Now capton 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: side steps his way in control. 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: It fought cock up. 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 5: Berkley Catton's got two had the Seattle Cracking go up 72 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 5: six two. 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 8: Five thirty. 74 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 6: That's here in the third host Freddy control coming down 75 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 6: the line. He put the feet to Berkeley Cotton who 76 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 6: was streaking down the slot area. He goes forehead, back end, 77 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: hung the bar, glove side, second go up for Berkeley Cotton, 78 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 6: third power play goal in the game. 79 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 8: Six two Seattle. 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: At the end of the night and offensive onslaught producing 81 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: a season high seven goals the Crack and also getting 82 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: their ninth straight game with a win or a point 83 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: eight zero and one in that run, it is the 84 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: second longest point streak in franchise history. In a seven 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: to four win over the Boston Bruins, where Berkeley Canton 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: became the They're a teenager in cracket history to score 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: his first career NHL goal, and he added a thing 88 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: of beauty for his second goal in period three to two, 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: effectively put the game away. Afterward, here's Caton and his 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: reaction meeting with the media. 91 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 9: Ver, You've done a lot here up at the NHL, 92 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 9: but now you get your first goal. You look like 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 9: you were pretty, uh, a little relieved after that. 94 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent. A lot of weight off the 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 10: shoulders for sure, but you know it's dreaming of that 96 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 10: for a long time. 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 7: So that was that was awesome. 98 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 9: You said your teammates have been pretty supportive throughout this 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 9: whole thing, because you've never gone this long a stretch 100 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 9: in hockey. 101 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 10: What were they like, one hundred percent? They've been nothing 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 10: but great to me. And you know, lots of the 103 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 10: guys have gone through droughts, maybe not that long, but 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 10: they've they've gone through him and just kind of, you know, 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 10: told me to keep going and eventually would go, and 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 10: luckily enough tonight it did. 107 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 11: Are you surprised that after you get the first one 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 11: the second one comes a little bit easier. 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 10: I figured it maybe if I had one, they would 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 10: start to come a little bit more. So that one 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 10: felt really good too. 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: How did the both the goals happen? 114 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 10: Honestly, the first one I kind of blocked out there. 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 10: I don't really remember. I don't even know where it 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 10: went in, to be honest. And then the second one, 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 10: great pass by Freddy and kind of gave me a 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 10: you know, a breakaway and just got it up and 119 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 10: went in. 120 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 11: You did a big smile on your face after that 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 11: first one. What did Jared McCann say to you when 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 11: he came over. 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I just saw, honestay, apios for me. So you 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 10: know that's pretty awesome. You know, guy, that's really been 125 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 10: a mentor me. So you don't see that's been awesome. 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 11: You mentioned it being a weight off your shoulders. 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 10: Just how much was it kind of impacting you day 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 10: to day game to game is things went one? Yeah, 129 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 10: obviously it was. I thought about it all the time, 130 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 10: but I wouldn't say it was really impacted me too much. 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 10: But it's just a relief, I think, more more than anything, 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 10: just to kind of get it out of the way, to. 133 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 8: Kind of have a nice skill one to go in 134 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 8: right after that to the second one on swimming and 135 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 8: beat him to the back end like that. How nice 136 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 8: was that one to see two after having one kind 137 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 8: of bouncing off a blocker on the first. 138 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 10: One, Yeah, one hundred percent. I didn't even know it 139 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 10: went in, to be honest, So I just I thought 140 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 10: I hit the post. But you know that that one 141 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 10: felt good too, And you know, again just great players, 142 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 10: but great players. 143 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 11: To me, I'm looking more generally at this game. I mean, 144 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 11: how did this one play out from your perspective? 145 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's good. 146 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 10: You know, we're we're on a roll right now, and 147 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 10: you know we're playing the way you know we can 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 10: play and obviously really really good defensively, but you know 149 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 10: that leads to the great offensive chances that we've been bearing. 150 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: So you know, that's our identity and we've got to 151 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: continue to that. 152 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: As it stands, the Kraken are just one point out 153 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: of first place in the Pacific Division. However, it is 154 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: a missed a very very tight Western Conference picture right now, 155 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: with plenty of questions at the halfway point of who 156 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: buys or who sells and if we even get there 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: from an overall league standpoint. Ryan Clark of ESPN had 158 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: more with us in our conversation first airing on Crack 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: and Weekly. 160 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 7: We think about how close the Flames were last season 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 7: to make playoffs. 162 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: Within the year before. 163 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 7: That, we've seen other examples, going as far back to 164 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 7: the Blues in twenty eighteen, where they missed the playoffs 165 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 7: by what was it like a point or two? They 166 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 7: just made the trade people thought, well, if you don't 167 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 7: make that trade, maybe your playoff teamn in a year 168 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 7: later they win the Stanley Cup. So that's sort of 169 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 7: always been there where you've had these teams are going 170 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 7: to the last two weeks of the season, like we 171 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 7: saw last year with Utah Vancouver category trying to make 172 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 7: a push. Where that's going to exist as far where 173 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 7: some of these teams fall off, like that is the 174 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 7: big mystery. So let's take San Jose. That's right now 175 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 7: maybe the biggest question because there is so much you 176 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 7: there's a. 177 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: Lot of talent. 178 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 7: You have Maclin celebrating, someone who is getting MVP vote, 179 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 7: someone who's going to the oly big team some on 180 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 7: that for all intention and purposes, looks the part of 181 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 7: a true number one center in the NHL, But you 182 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 7: also need a supporting cast. And the way that the 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 7: Sharks have been structured the last few years ever it is. 184 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: They've been a team that has gone out and Gott. 185 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 7: Knows veteran players are on those one year deals so 186 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 7: when the deadline comes, they can move on from those 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 7: players and then. 188 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: Get more draft capital. 189 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 7: So what happens if they're still within a playoff playoffs 190 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 7: face here like if you're in my career, do you 191 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 7: sit there and say, maybe you add, maybe you subtract, 192 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 7: you keep with things as planned because it's still been 193 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 7: a strong season, But how do you sort of evaluate 194 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 7: where you are and if you're ahead of scheduled. If 195 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 7: you're the Utah man, the playoffs are the goal. You 196 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 7: go get JJ Peterca. You saved the cap space you have. 197 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 7: You're in a position that when you come back from 198 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 7: the Olympic breaker, maybe even before, you can make at 199 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 7: least one or two moves, depending on how you manage 200 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 7: your money. So that's just the thing is with some 201 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 7: of these teams. And let's play Anaheim to that conversation too. 202 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 7: Anaheim is that team that people thought going in, if 203 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 7: there's going to be someone from the outside looking in 204 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 7: that makes the playoffs, if. 205 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: It's not Utah, it's Anaheim. 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 7: Because Anaheim has been building the last few seasons. Anaheim 207 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 7: had this sort of off season where it went out 208 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 7: and it made the moves, It freed up the cap space. 209 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 7: You're able to get Chris Krider, and all of a sudden, 210 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 7: you look at that team where what was once this 211 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 7: sort of young team where he had veterans here and 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 7: there it's a blend of both, and you're seeing contributions 213 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 7: from everyone of all ages. 214 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: In addition, having. 215 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 7: A coach that is one of the all time great 216 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 7: coaches this league is seen. And so that's just it is. 217 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 7: There are so many variables with all those teams to 218 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 7: where yes, it might be difficult to predict. But at 219 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 7: the same time, how many of those same people who 220 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 7: raise this question, the same people who say I can't. 221 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: Believe for in January and it feels like the seasons 222 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: already over. You have to be grady. You have the game. 223 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 7: Either it's you want the season to be over by 224 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 7: January so you can do whatever it is you want, 225 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 7: or you want these to be as interesting as possible 226 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 7: March going into April with the idea that it's only 227 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 7: going to make the playoffs even more interesting. 228 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you say that because I said 229 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: this going into last year. I said this going into 230 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: this year. If I'm the Seattle Kracken, for example, my 231 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: goal is to play another cracket, right, My goal is. 232 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: To play meaningful games into March. 233 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: Right, Game seventy has to matter, that's got to mean something. 234 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 3: But on the other side. 235 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 4: Of that, I also hear the argument of man, I 236 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: wish this team was worse than they are so we 237 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: could just start selling off these pieces and plan for 238 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: the future. So it's funny you say that because there's 239 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: a lot of people, fans and other folks in Seattle 240 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 4: and out of Seattle that are kind of stuck in 241 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 4: that mushy middle there. 242 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 7: But it's easy to understand why because, like go back 243 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 7: to San Jose and let's go back to Anaheim. 244 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: Part of the formula for how. 245 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 7: These teams are able to be where they are right 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 7: now is because they were able to get those high 247 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 7: picks by being so far down. 248 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: You look at the teams that are winning right now. 249 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 7: In most cases, Tampa was able to draft exceptionally well 250 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 7: throughout all rounds. But the way they were able to 251 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 7: hit on those first round picks in the case of 252 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 7: koutra off a high second, it has helped build a 253 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 7: foundation for what it is today. And so you understand 254 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 7: that argument and why people feel that way. Again, Let's 255 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 7: take a team like the Attle whiche where like McKinnon 256 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 7: was the number one pick, landeskod was the top three pick, 257 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 7: mccarr was the top four pick. 258 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: Like those things that absolutely matter. 259 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 7: Dallas is no different or even going out and getting 260 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 7: those players, because look, let's look at what the Wild did. 261 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 7: They went out and got a top ten pick and 262 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 7: Quinn Hughes and look what that has done for them NBA. 263 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: So there is something to be said for that. 264 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 7: It's just a hard part for a team like a 265 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 7: crack like the crack, and there's multiple factors. 266 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: Number one is it's like, so what are you. Are 267 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: you the team that in year one you are. 268 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 7: A lottery team that looked like you were going down 269 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 7: this path, or are you the team in year two 270 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 7: where maybe the playoffs are a reality and that's kind 271 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 7: of where they're at right now. 272 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: But then there's other. 273 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 7: Factors to consider too, such as like what makes the 274 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 7: most sense long term? How do you justify this in 275 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: a market where, look, the Seahawks are very good, the 276 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 7: Mariners are very good. 277 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: You dub looks like you could do something with football, 278 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: You loub women's. 279 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 7: Soccer, men's soccer are a thing there, the Storm, the Ring, 280 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 7: it's a competitive market there. But then also too not 281 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 7: to get too much down this path. 282 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: But it is also the economics of it, because. 283 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 7: Like if you were charging that price weight in that market, 284 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 7: you're expecting they seeing a team that's competitive. 285 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: Not a team that's languishing in the standings. And so 286 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, you're almost in a no 287 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: win situation. 288 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: Ryan, if this cluster in the Western Conference holds firm 289 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: after the Olympic break, do you think that there's more 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: sellers or more buyers. 291 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: It's so hard to say because it all depends upon 292 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 7: the team and it's overall. 293 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: I guess you could say a landscape. 294 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 7: So let's go tell you neame a random team in 295 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 7: the East or West, just any random team that you 296 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 7: think can be. 297 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: A buyer or seller. 298 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: Philadelphia. 299 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: Okay, So the Flyers are a great, great pick. 300 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 7: So the way of Flyers are currently built and where 301 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 7: they currently stand right now is this. 302 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: They are holding down the first wild card. 303 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 7: They are a team that has youth, they have veterans, 304 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 7: they have a good mix. You could see a situation 305 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 7: where they think they're ready to add because they've been 306 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 7: building and building and building to get to that point. 307 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 7: If let's see the Winnipeg Jets get Connor Helbok act back, 308 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 7: they go on a little bit of a run. The 309 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 7: way Winnipeg is built, you would think that's a team 310 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 7: that would look to try to add Florida is the 311 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 7: same thing. Net if you're the Buffalo Sabers and you 312 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 7: have a decision to make, This is where it gets 313 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: really fascinating because on one hand, you know what it's 314 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 7: like to go through the draft and you've added great 315 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 7: talent in the draft. Well, on the other you're now 316 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: being ran by Armo Kakalin and who the man has 317 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 7: experiences not only getting really good talent with winning and 318 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 7: going to the playoffs and so again, everyone's situation is different, 319 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 7: and it seems like the macro and the micro in 320 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 7: terms of where you're at an organization on your grand 321 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 7: scheme as well as where you're at and the moment 322 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 7: seems like that's going to determine what teams. 323 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: Do ahead of the deadline. 324 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think one of the things that concerns me 325 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 8: is is the goal differential. And you know, being a 326 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 8: stat guy, it stands out to me that the Pacific 327 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 8: is all read and you know, championship teams tend to 328 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 8: hover more the green and certainly the top three or 329 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 8: four teams in the Central are in that area. And 330 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 8: I have to look at you know, the comment around 331 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 8: buyers or sellers. I think the bigger that red number gets, 332 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 8: the more likelihood you're probably a seller. You know, if 333 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 8: you can't get that goal differential into the green, you're 334 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 8: probably not making the playoffs or you're probably not going deep. 335 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: And that's a fair point. 336 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 7: But I think it also depends upon what team you're 337 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 7: talking about. So let's keep it to the Pacific. If 338 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 7: you are the Vegas gold Knights, you know what you're 339 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: there to do, and that is to win, and it 340 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 7: is to win at all costs. It's just how do 341 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: you find the goaltending to find a way to get 342 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 7: you that consistency, because look, your top six has gone 343 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 7: through changes with the Axotrangelo gone of course Nick Haagen 344 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 7: being gone, so you've had to do some different things. 345 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 7: If you're the Edmonton Oilers, it's the same story. It's 346 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: pen which is you're trying to find consistency in that. 347 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,479 Speaker 7: Maybe you found that. Who knows. If you're the Kraken, 348 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 7: it's a native goal differential as of today, but who's 349 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 7: to say that doesn't evaporate because you. 350 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: Think about the last eight games, they've been the best 351 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: team in the NHL. 352 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, Golden on bar for sure like you're. 353 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 7: Getting goldtending, you're getting offensive output from everyone from Tolden 354 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 7: into to Freendi control like you're finding a way to 355 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 7: make it work and so long. 356 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: Yes, that's just a snatch out of eight games. 357 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 12: It's just how do you take eight games you make 358 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 12: it into ten to twelve to twenty, so that way 359 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 12: you get a better idea of what you are. 360 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 7: But to that point, I certainly get what you're saying, 361 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 7: but it also goes back to, well, how can you 362 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 7: correct these things? 363 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: And if you can't correct these things, you're left with 364 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: a difficult decision. 365 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 7: Unless, frankly, at this point you're one of those teams 366 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 7: in the Central Division where gold differential just hasn't been 367 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 7: a problem for Colorado, Dallas or Minnesota. 368 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: I love asking this question to folks who come on. 369 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: You know you're you're dialed in. 370 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: You've got friends and contacts all across the league. 371 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: Clarky, what are folks saying about Seattle? 372 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: I mean, in the beginning of the year, you get 373 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: off to the best starting franchise history. We're all aboord 374 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: the lane train where all Laniacs, this team defensively is 375 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: playing well. You go on the one, nine and one run. 376 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 4: Now you're on a seven, zero and one run. What 377 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: are what's the word on the streets? What are they 378 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 4: what are they saying on the streets about the Seattle Kraken. 379 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 7: It's this sort of wait and see because you just 380 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 7: don't know, and like, let's see about what you just 381 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 7: said about what things look like from late November to 382 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 7: mid December with this team, that's a lot of losses, 383 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 7: and it's the sort of losses that make you wonder, Okay, 384 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 7: are they a lot or a team? Maybe this is 385 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 7: how they move forward, maybe they move on from players. 386 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 7: And then you look at the last eight games and 387 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 7: now they're a playoff team, and they're a playoff team 388 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 7: at a timing which a lot. 389 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: Of teams have an opportunity to really make a run. 390 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 7: And so the top of the granite, it just seems 391 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 7: to be like, let's wait and see, because that's kind 392 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 7: of what this organization has been from day one, where 393 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 7: like you see these glimpses where you go, Okay, maybe 394 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 7: they're not there. 395 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 3: Maybe they go. 396 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 7: Through the draft and they try to do it that way. 397 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 7: But then when they start winning these games and they 398 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 7: start flirting with a playoff spot, whether it be a 399 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 7: wild card in one of the division places. You're then 400 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 7: left wondering, maybe, but we just need to see more. 401 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 7: And that's the thing with them, is just you need 402 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 7: to see more because the reality is is goltending you 403 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 7: know what you have in Joey to Core. When Philip 404 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 7: Grubauer is healthy, you know what you have with him. 405 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 7: It's just a matter of can you keep the continuity 406 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 7: in the offensive zone defensive zone. 407 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: Compared to what they were. 408 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 7: Last season, there has been a dramatic change, but it 409 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 7: is about seeing can they keep this going in the 410 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 7: offensive end. If they can do that and they can 411 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 7: have all those pieces working, but more importantly, they. 412 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 12: Can avoid these banks of losing four or five, six 413 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 12: upwards of seven games, and they can manage that so 414 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 12: whole pace. 415 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 7: In a Western conference where frankly, having defense in goaltending 416 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 7: is what's going to make a difference, you would think 417 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 7: that they have a really good chance of making the playoffs. 418 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 7: At the same time, you just don't know because it's 419 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 7: the Western Conference. 420 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: That's Ryan Clark of ESPN joining US again has handled 421 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: Ryan Underscore s Underscore Clark at X with the Kraken 422 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: coming in here for this second matchup, trying to avenge 423 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: a four to one defeat in their prior matchup, and 424 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: right now they carry Jere McCann's offense into this one 425 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: with points in five straight games, with the veteran Ford 426 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: Coppocaco also with points in four straight games. Not to 427 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: mention the fourth line right now, not just playing physically, 428 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: but they're on an offensive heater. Ben Myers the course 429 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: as their center, helping generate a go ahead goal in 430 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: period two where the Kraken would not look back. That 431 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: line by the way, contributing with a goal now in 432 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: five consecutive games in total, the Kraken offense picking up 433 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: plenty of steam in the recent going. They have scored 434 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: four goals or more now in four consecutive games. Up 435 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: against Minnesota, the Wild have been winless in two straight games. 436 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: Games first time the kra can see them though, since 437 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: the blockbuster Quinn Hughes trade, and they come in fourth 438 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: best power play ranked in the NHL right now with 439 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: plenty of weapons to go around Hughes. Is there a 440 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: big power play guy of course, seventeen points, fifteen of 441 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: them coming off assist, no surprise. Carill Caprisov leads the 442 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: power play nine goals also with sixteen points. That second 443 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: Matt Boldy fourteen points. Angel Ericsson Eck also a threatening 444 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: NetFront presence right behind him with ten points as well 445 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: on the power play. 446 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 3: For this season. 447 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: That will set you up here for this one. Next 448 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: home game won't come until January nineteenth. The Kraken after 449 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: this on the road for five consecutive games and looking 450 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: to run the table. Here in the brief pitched top 451 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: of two in a row at home and looking to 452 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: dis some payback, of course against Minnesota in this second 453 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: matchup of the season. Once again, puck dropped a little 454 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: past seven o'clock Pacific time. Airtime is six thirty. We 455 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: certainly hope that you can join us big thanks again 456 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: to Ryan Clark and for kraking this morning. I'm Mike Benton. 457 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: Have a happy Thursday and enjoy the game. 458 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: You're home for the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point 459 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: three k j R FM